“Hoffman Estates” is a Chicago area location containing an abandoned furniture store and warehouse. The Obama Foundation leased, then re-upped the lease, to use the facility to store all the paper documents from the Obama administration {Location Link}.
The Obama administration told the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) they were going to upload the documents into a digital form for use in the Obama library. The paper documents were, still are, held at the Hoffman Estate warehouse while this digitization process took place. It should be noted, the Obama Foundation has never digitized the records, hence they renewed the warehouse lease.
Contrast against the DOJ-NSD legal position about classified records held in the secure facility of Mar-a-Lago, a 2018 letter {Obama.org pdf here} from the Obama Foundation to the NARA is an example of the two-tiered selective justice system. Within the 2018 letter the Obama team admit to storing both “classified and unclassified” documents at the warehouse: [Page #2, bullet-point 7]
Obviously, there were no raids on Hoffman Estates from the FBI to secure the classified documents. Nor did the DOJ National Security Division trigger a criminal investigation of President Obama for holding documents, particularly classified documents, against the interests of the NARA while they “digitized them;” a process, which again should be noted, never even began.
The intent of sharing this information is just to highlight the political dynamic within the NARA, DOJ and FBI as it pertains to selective enforcement of presidential records.
Once again, to hopefully save the time of responding to DC inquiry, all of this information is open-source discovery. It exists in the vast space of the internet and this letter itself is found in the archives of the Obama Foundation itself.
This information does not surface as an outcome of any CTH relationship with any entity who is now, or was ever, part of the Trump administration or the Trump legal team. So, save your insufferable subpoenas.
Readers, researchers and news media can do whatever they want with the information provided. The source citations are provided. Make it your own, or not.
Lemme guess–full name: “Abbie Hoffman Estates: Steal This Document!”
Those NARA hacks are simply providing a fig leaf for the Police State’s hunt for their own self-incriminating documents.
They already have copies. They want Actual President Trump’s declassified copies so they can hide them from the People forever.
Hoffman Estates is an upscale town, a northern suburb of Chicago. Not a warehouse.
Did you even read the very first sentence?
It is the old Sears warehouse and it is located in Hoffman Estates. Hoffman Estates is an upscale suburb but the warehouse is located there.
It was NOT a Sears warehouse. It was a minimally secured, closed Plunkett’s Furniture store on Rt.68 in Hoffman Estates. Google it! Sears does not have any warehouses in HE, their corporate HQ was located in the village.
And HE is not an upscale burb. There’s a good mix of all incomes in town. The average income in the village is around $42k. Not upscale by any means. I can speak with authority on this, I’ve lived in HE for almost 23 years.
“Hoffman Estates” is a Chicago area location containing an abandoned furniture store and warehouse.
This statement is correct. The town of about 50,000 is about 25 miles northwest of Chicago. There are a lot of warehouse and storage options within the city limits.
In a warehouse in Hoffman Estates. It used to be a Sears Furniture store.
Sears did not own it!
Giggle….
I still refuse to believe he doesn’t have more copies.
Me too. Probably electronically
Obamanation’s folks put 33 million documents there cuz they’re running an “Auction House” selling secrets 2 the highest bidders .. that’s the TRUTH!!!
I just knew it. What is good for the goose is not the same for the gander.
Beautiful Sundance!
Just beautiful!
FBI is a rogue state within a state.
Let’s dissemble the deep state.
There was an episode of “Seinfeld” where Elaine keeps saying (if I recall correctly):
“War. What is it good for?
I want to say, “The FBI. What is it good for?”
The FBI. Used for Dems to spy.
IIRC, a former Secretary of State kept an illegal email server in the bathroom of her NY home that contained classified information. All of her aides were given immunity by the DOJ, and she was permitted to destroy the evidence.
If we’ve got any Feds in the threads, this is why you’re corrupt.
Basement not bathroom and her maid was the one who would go and print what Cankles wanted. And Cankie Poo never had the ability to declassify (or classify) anything!!
No, my recollection is the maid worked at Hillary’s DC townhouse. Classified info came in over the printer there frequently, and the maid had her instructions as to what to do with it.
The server that’s mentioned so often was in the bathroom of her house in New York, and it was definitely unsecured and not allowed to be used for transmitting government documents.
I read quite a lot about what Hillary was up to in those days, and that’s my recollection.
IIRC, the maid was NOT a US citizen (maybe legal resident, but def not a US citizen) and she entered the SCIF in her NY home to print out classified emails for Hildabeast’s convenience. DEF a BIG NO-NO!!
Was HRC’s maid a female member of the Awan clan? They were the fine folk hired by Washrag-Schultz to “manage IT” for the DNC. (They were quite possibly kept on the payroll to provide boinking on demand to the lovely Debby, her version of Swalwell and Bang Fang.)
The feds are in the tbreads.
For all: Bongino will be posting tomorrow and Friday his interview with an FBI Whistleblower.
It is a must listen and share. The snippet on his show today….scary. Fricking scary.
We are Paul Revere…SD, I get it now. We need to spread the word.
No worries. None of us post with real name. How will they ever find us…/s
They don’t need your real name they have your IP address.
Full Disclosure: I voted for Obama twice, dumped them when they ran Hillary
I read an article on this subject years ago after Obama left office. There were two important issues addressed in the article. One issue was the volume of files he took which was immense compared to any other POTUS and would be stored in his Presidential library after construction. I can’t remember the other issue specifically. The point of the news story was a concern of maintaining an intact accurate Presidential record with Obama taking so much material. It made it sound as if items he took were perhaps not duplicated elsewhere. Benghazi, Fast and Furious and other scandals had the author concerned that the written history may not align with the documents in the Presidential record Frankly I was relieved when I read a comment here stating all originals stay where they originated.
You left out Iran and the money pallets, Lois Lerner and the IRS targeting of conservatives, Russia-Russia-Russia, Kids in Kages, …
? Why did you vote for Obama twice? really curious – looking to understand others viewpoint – will always agree to disagree politely. Just curious
Heck, I wrote in Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012. One of the local conservatives here is still mad at me for not voting for Romney in 2012. I told her that Obama and Romney were pretty much the same.
Many of us were so disillusioned by the Bush/Cheney regime and Obama was such a “nice, clean” black man.
He vowed to push for repeal
of FBI/CIA secret programs.
We were ALL had.
And he’s such a nice caring man, can’t you just tell by the picture of him that was included!
Thank you, Sundance. I’m sharing it far and wide!
“This information does not surface as an outcome of any CTH relationship with any entity who is now, or was ever, part of the Trump administration or the Trump legal team. So, save your insufferable subpoenas.”
And there it is. Again!
Sunshine!
And Sundance is just allowing as how he stands in the sunshine and anyone who wants to can come stand in the sunshine, too.
The lives of those who stand in the sunshine are not complicated, conniving, or confusing but those who have an easy distaste for and suspicion of the sunshine people are sort of driven over the nearest cliff when they have to take account of them.
The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord.
It’s a shame he’s getting subpoenas, but they do illustrate how completely stupid your average government employee is…
The basic problem we face as a country is stupid people with access to power.
Deadly combination.
It was not a Sears warehouse. It was a former furniture store/warehouse on a numbered state highway with almost 35k vehicles passing daily and it’s across the street from a very active shopping center. The only “security” was drop-down gates in the driveways, no fencing, and signs noting it was a “federal facility”. There were anywhere from 6 to 20 cars at most on the property Monday-Friday and only 4 or 5 on weekends which I would assume were security guards as no one was “working” on weekends. All this to the tune of around $700k/month for 2 years…not to add shipping & handling from DC…and nothing was ever “digitized”??? Why am I not surprised???
This guy is not building a “presidential library. He’s building a monument to himself, and an indoctrination center for the current & next wave of Marxists. And he has in no way raised enough money at this point to build much of anything except for the “monument” and destroy one of the “charms”, a string of public parks that stretch from the north side to the south side of the city, on our lakefront. All built by Daniel Burnham. Grand dreams that will never be completed according to the bill of goods sold to the City of $hitcago. He’s a carpetbagger with no ties to the state/city except for Michael…sorry, Michele.
Someone should be building a gallows for this SOB.
“he has in no way raised enough money at this point to build much of anything except for the “monument” and destroy one of the “charms”, a string of public parks that stretch from the north side to the south side of the city, on our lakefront”
How soon he forgets. “You didn’t build that” Obama!
Must be a lot of shredding going on.
You have to wonder why the scope of documents was so big. And, you have to wonder if it was because they wanted access to everything that might be used against them in a hypothetical court proceeding, given all the graft and corruption we know about (Biden in particular). And you have to wonder if anything serious came along, whether that facility would burn to the ground.
National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Department of Justice (DOJ)
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
are all politically corrupted Democrat Operative rogue Criminal Enterprises
Thank you, Sundance (again).
A very good catch, and very important. Equal treatment under the law is an important principle.
The volume of documents and that the “records are Obama’s records indicate this was the depository for records kept by nearly every one of Obama’s major appointees, which were then declared as presidential records.
Obama admitted to running a shadow government 2016 to 2020, via a Think Tank and they even had foreign clients whom were advised on “how to deal with President Trump”. Recall Kerry meeting with the Iranians in Paris during re-negotiation of the Iran-Nuke Deal by President Trump . they also represented North Korea and China Inc.
Key members of Obama’s DoJ and INTEL Community worked in the Broadcast News Media, as key members of Social Media Tech Companies and even major law firms with links into President Trump’s DoJ.
Recall how we discussed here on CTH how “well informed” Obama’s folks seemed to be 2016-2018.
They literally ransacked US Agencies for materials and with a stroke of pen …. that materials became Obama’s Personal Presidential Materials. This in part was the cause for consternation when President Trump was threatening to remove security clearances, as that technically would keep Obama’s employees from all the materials they removed.
Remember all those contractors caught by Admiral Rogers, using FISA Inquiries?? Guess where those materials (“presidential records”) are stored??
In short, Obama gamed the system with inside help to accumulate tons of classified materials for use as part of his shadow government and for profit as part of the Think Tank business.
If one exists , the visitors log to this place would be interesting reading as would the transmittal letters or records for classified materials moved OUT of the warehouse after January 2016.
Comrade Obama’s handlers and Comrade Obama make the Clinton’s look like armatures on this topic.
Aside from the obvious violations on handling classified materials, they perfectly gamed the system to have legal access to tons of looted government documents.
I’m one of those nerds that visits all the Presidential Libraries, and like to dig into the records where I can. I’ve been following this story with exasperation since I learned that the Obama Presidential Library would just be a website, not an actual place you could visit. His Chicago conference center boondoggle will not contain a Presidential Library. Plus he had his lawyers shred all the interesting documents at Hoffman Estates.
Any day now the true role and intentions of Judge Raymond Dearie will be completely unmasked. Wont be long. Just one long continuum.
Do judges not know how stupid they look pretending not to know what two tiered justice looks like?
They know, they don’t care, and they think they’re immune from consequences…Which means that law school and being on the bench have erased their integrity.
Very good Missy
I would make one edit
”…they know they’re immune from consequences…”
White mans’ laws don’t apply well with negroes…
I can’t say as I’ve ever heard Dr. Ben Carson, Economist Walter E. Williams, Judge Clarence Thomas, Sen. Tim Scott, Economist Tomas Sowell, Coach Tony Dungy, Alveda King, Larry Elder, Diamond and Silk, boxing promotor Don King, Sheriff David Clarke, Star Parker, Katrina Pierson, financial analyst Charles Payne, Allen West, Candace Owens, etc. etc., and, etc……suggest that laws belong to a particular color of people, or that they do not apply to a particular color of people.
Please clarify which group of “negroes” you are referencing.
I suppose the lawbreaking ones? White mans’ (sic) laws don’t apply to white lawbreakers either, in their world view.
Looks like you are speaking from a casually racist point of view.
That’s kind of like the racists who painted END RACISM in the end zone at the Seattle Seahawks’ field.
Racists come in all colors.
Are you a white racist?
WELL SAID Sharon
i WAS RAISED to – TRY TO – DISREGARD the OUTWARD APPEARANCES and WATCH THE ACTIONS of an INDIVIDUAL.
( BIBLICAL TEACHINGS )
Yes, likely to protect themselves and blackmail all that would call them out.
Guess where the blackmail materials are kept, which were generated prior to 2020 and in possession of Team Obama for use 2016 to 2020??
I feel confident that the FBI is readying their backpacks at present for an early morning raid! Oh wait, Obama might have some docs on Hunter and Joe in that unsecured furniture warehouse. Meritless is signing the raid authorization right now. Let the invasion begin!
/s
I’m not sure the Obama Foundation rented the building:
“The space at 2500 W. Golf Road was leased in February by the General Services Administration. Village officials are expected to consider a special use permit for the project, which has the backing of Mayor Bill McLeod, in July. Work at the location could start as soon as October.
“Hoffman Estates, Ill., having the Obama archives for a few years, how do you calculate the benefit of that?” McLeod said. “It’s another mention, it’s another something about Hoffman Estates people read in the newspapers and this is good, having the archives for a few years, that’s really good.”
Technically, the National Archives doesn’t take legal custody of Obama’s documents until 12:01 p.m. Jan. 20, after the next commander in chief takes the oath. But with an OK from the White House, the agency can begin shipping and organizing some materials well before that date, Laster said.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obama-center/ct-obama-archives-to-hoffman-estates-20160531-story.html
Thanks for that. I said earlier I thought the NA through the GSA might be leasing the building, but everything was behind the media paywalls.
GSA…
General SERVICES Administration – a ” CATCH ALL ” agency –
https://www.gsa.gov/real-estate/gsa-properties
Trump docs probe: Court lifts hold on Mar-a-Lago records
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-docs-probe-court-lifts-233757340.html
Mike Davis
Thread:
I am a fan of Mike Davis and his logic, but it seems all for naught.
The Trump team is already writing it’s appeal. This is just a short-term victory for the DOJ. It doesn’t stop the special master from doing his job. He still has to put the classified records into the proper bucket, which is where the real fight will begin. That bucket is Presidential privileged records. If they don’t go there, where else is the SM going to put them. The choices are Presidential Privileged, Presidential Unprivileged, Personal Privileged, and Personal Unprivileged. If the SM tries to say those belong to the DOJ instead, then that is when the Trump Team is going to unload on the SM. All the documents in question belong to the President, even classified documents, whether he declassified them or not.
And if the SM refuses to review the classified documents, he can be removed as SM by Cannon since he will be violating her order.
Thank you for the info Ron.
Sometimes it seems like the corruption is so thick that rules and laws simply get waived away.
Wouldn’t be awesome if she is reading here!!! I think she must be – she’s too smart to not be!
Many on the SC still abide by the constitution – keep the faith my friend. O
This statement in a footnote in the Trump Team response to the DOJ’s appeal to the 11th Circuit was completely ignored by the court.
“The ultimate disposition of all the “classified records,” and likely most of the seized materials, is indisputably governed by the provisions of the Presidential Records Act (“PRA”). See 44 U.S.C. §§ 2201, et seq. Thus, at best, the Government might ultimately be able to establish certain Presidential records should be returned to NARA. What is clear regarding all of the seized materials is that they belong with either President Trump (as his personal property to be returned pursuant to Rule 41(g)) or with NARA, but not with the Department of Justice.”
That statement on its face is clear evidence that the DOJ/FBI overstepped its authority in raiding Mar-a-Lago over Trump’s dispute with NARA, which is not criminal. The FBI has no authority to intercede in a dispute between those parties, and the NARA had no authority to ask the FBI to get involved in the dispute. While Presidential records are subject to subpena or other judicial process for the purposes of any civil or criminal investigation or proceeding, the statutes noted in the FBI warrant are related to the documents being at Mar-a-Lago, which again, is a dispute between Trump and the Archives and hardly criminal. The 11th Circuit failed to consider these facts as well.
The 11th Circuit in this ruling has shown a complete failure to understand the nature of the Presidential Records Act. There was no need for Trump’s team to present evidence of declassification since that is irrelevant to the Presidential Records Act. The court was creating a straw man argument just because the DOJ presented that argument to them.
Let’s hope!
I wish Trump would hire him on his legal team. Seems he could be very useful
i BELIEVE that LIKE BANNON – MIKE DAVIS is MORE USEFUL ” OUTSIDE the RING “
Bannon said today on the Warroom that FBI agents are coming in as whistleblowers. They’re tired of the politization of the agency. Where ya been guys?
It seems to me that the reason they have to pay for storing Obama’s presidential records and not for Trump’s is because….
Obama owned no businesses with storage area….but Trump did. Trump stored them rent free at Mar A Lago.
Sundance’s excellent reporting may be neutered by the DOJ’s motto: Decline to Prosecute
All presidents keep classified documents for their libraries. DOJ never had a problem with it. They are only going after Trump because the establishment despises him and they want an excuse to indict and imprison him to keep him from running in 2024. Trump did nothing every other president has done in keeping documents.
There is that name again. Nearly six years after he supposedly left the Presidency, Barack Hussein Obama surfaces again, briefly. Back to his hiding hole for another continuation on his transformative adventure. There will never even be a peep about this anywhere in the media, because people always lose their livelihoods for crossing “Dear Leader”.
Pro and Contrast this…
PDJT is in the fight. Yet, his legal team continues to fight the fight from a position of a laughing stock.
Come on man.
The whole point rests on your legal team to, “Just assert that the NARA had more control of the types of documents released.
PDJT just went through four years of unpresented federal attempts to set up your Presidency for failure through falsehoods fabrications. i.e. out right lies.
And your legel team can’t even assert a chain of custody 4th amendment argument that presents whatever was siezed.
May have likely included documents planted by NARA that incrimates post seizure that puts you a negative light to drive a MSM narrative.
Just what planet are we MAGA patriots on. Time and time again the people making your legal presentations turn out be baffling bafoons.
Case in point, Rudy making all these legal claims of a smoking gun, only to turn out to being hunny trapped by Borat.
Come on. It is time to piss or get off the pot.
Otherwise, my train ride ends with the conclusion that advancement of deep state interests required a FOIL.
Well played.
I want to be wrong, truly I do.
I heard there was also a food processing facility at Hoffman Estates. It would be a shame if anything happened to it.
Chicago Tribune Article
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/obama-center/ct-obama-archives-to-hoffman-estates-20160531-story.html
Until the big enema is inserted into DC, & all matter, particularly of the DOJ variety is excreted, we’ll be in danger.
Might want to check this out.
“https://www.archives. gov/presidential-libraries/information-about-new-model-for-obama-presidential-library”
Gear up the GOP witch hunter attorneys!
Sundance/all. Wasn’t the whole Obama had classified docs already debunked by NARA?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/12/trump-obama-national-archives/
WP?? Snort.
They weren’t the only ones. Several organizations debunked it
What did people expect from the laziest President ever? He was in it for the perks, the parties, the photo ops…PERIOD!
P.S. the transformation, too.
This is pretty ugly stuff.
The counter to even mentioning this is “This is ‘What about-ism!”
To that I say “Yes it is! But this is a legal matter. So let’s call this legal term by its proper name! “precedent!”
When these precedents exist, the case for unequal application of the law begins here which is now described as political weaponization of government powers to abuse political opponents. It is both immoral and illegal.
And then I say “shut the F* up!”
I think the statements underlined in red are “boilerplate” material, and nothing more. If I say “we are going to transfer all documents, whether or not they are classified or not, from A to B, it in no way proves that there were any classified documents at A. Clauses like that would typically be included in a movement contract routinely, just to indicate that the movers were authorized and competent to move classified documents, if there are any.
The Hoffman Estates location is supposedly controlled by NARA. Not sure what that means
Come on Sundance…correct your error about the warehouse belonging to Sears. Anyone can google it and get the right answer. #HoffmanEstatesResident
The One, having founded the modern two-tier system of American justiss, is exempt from pesky regulations and oversight. Those are reserved for semi-fascist MAGA cretins such as you and me.
I wonder if Barry Soetero’s birth certificate is in that warehouse.