Here we go… It was only a matter of time before the DOJ-NSD architects of the Trump targeting operation came out from the shadows. This is the moment long-time readers of CTH should have been waiting for. For the past five years Mary McCord has been one of a small and select lawfare group organizing the targeting of President Trump.
Mary McCord led the support team who created the Carter Page FISA warrant using the Steele Dossier to replace the required ‘Wood’s file’. McCord was the DOJ-NSD official who traveled with DOJ Deputy AG Sally Yates to talk to former White House counsel Don McGhan which weaponized the Flynn-Kislyak call to remove Trump’s National Security Advisor.
Mary McCord was the person who organized Alexander Vindman and Eric Ciaramella to construct the first impeachment effort. Additionally, it was Mary McCord along with her former legal counsel, turned Intelligence Community Inspector General, Michael Atkinson, who changed the ICIG whistleblower rules allowing an anonymous complaint to underpin the false accusations from Ciaramella against Trump.
It was also Mary McCord who was appointed by FISA court Judge James Boasberg as an amici curia to the court, intercepting issues of false information in filings from the DOJ-NSD to the court as constructed by Kevin Clinesmith.
It was Mary McCord who then took up the lead congressional position within the impeachment construct created by Adam Schiff and Jerry Nadler, and it was Mary McCord who then joined the January 6 Committee in the committee fight to obtain President Trump’s white house records.
Mary McCord surfaces today with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos to outline what her team has currently constructed, including the specific targeting approaches her DOJ-NSD and Lawfare crew have put together.
As noted by McCord, the ‘obstruction of justice’ angle is a repeat of the threat used by the Deep State to keep the criminal conduct of the DOJ-NSD from being exposed. WATCH:
When the Carter Page FISA application was originally assembled by the FBI and DOJ, there was initial hesitancy from within the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) about submitting the application, because it did not have enough citations in evidence (the infamous ‘Woods File’). That’s why the Steele Dossier ultimately became important. It was the Steele Dossier that provided the push, the legal cover needed for the DOJ-NSD to submit the application for a Title-1 surveillance warrant against the campaign of Donald J. Trump.
When the Carter Page title-1 search warrant application was finally assembled for submission to the FISA court, the head of the DOJ-NSD was John Carlin. Carlin quit working for the DOJ-NSD in late September 2016 just before the final application was submitted (October 21,2016).
John Carlin was replaced by Deputy Asst. Attorney General, Mary McCord.
♦ When the FISA application was finally submitted (approved by Sally Yates and James Comey), it was Mary McCord who did the actual process of filing the application and gaining the Title-1 surveillance warrant.
A few months later, February 2017, with Donald Trump now in office as President, it was Mary McCord who went with Deputy AG Sally Yates to the White House to confront White House legal counsel Don McGahn over the Michael Flynn interview with FBI agents. The surveillance of Flynn’s calls was presumably done under the auspices and legal authority of the FISA application Mary McCord previously was in charge of submitting.
♦ At the time the Carter Page application was filed (October 21, 2016), Mary McCord’s chief legal counsel inside the office was a DOJ-NSD lawyer named Michael Atkinson. In his role as the legal counsel for the DOJ-NSD, it was Atkinson’s job to review and audit all FISA applications submitted from inside the DOJ. Essentially, Atkinson was the DOJ internal compliance officer in charge of making sure all FISA applications were correctly assembled and documented.
♦ When the anonymous CIA whistleblower complaint was filed against President Trump for the issues of the Ukraine call with President Zelensky, the Intelligence Community Inspector General had to change the rules for the complaint to allow an anonymous submission. Prior to this change, all intelligence whistleblowers had to put their name on the complaint. It was this 2019 IGIC who changed the rules. Who was the Intelligence Community Inspector General? Michael Atkinson.
When ICIG Michael Atkinson turned over the newly authorized anonymous whistleblower complaint to the joint House Intelligence and Judiciary Committee (Schiff and Nadler chairs), who did Michael Atkinson give the complaint to? Mary McCord.
Yes, after she left main justice, Mary McCord took the job of working for Chairman Jerry Nadler and Chairman Adam Schiff as the chief legal advisor inside the investigation that led to the construction of articles of impeachment. As a consequence, Mary McCord received the newly permitted anonymous whistleblower complaint from her old office colleague Michael Atkinson.
♦ During his investigation of the Carter Page application, Inspector General Michael Horowitz discovered an intentional lie inside the Carter Page FISA application (directly related to the ‘Woods File’) which his team eventually tracked to FBI counterintelligence division lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith. Eventually Clinesmith was criminally charged with fabricating evidence (changed wording on an email) in order to intentionally falsify the underlying evidence in the FISA submission.
When John Durham took the Clinesmith indictment to court, the judge in the case was James Boasberg.
♦ In addition to being a DC criminal judge, James Boasberg is also a FISA court judge who signed-off on one of the renewals for the FISA application that was submitted using fraudulent evidence fabricated by Kevin Clinesmith. In essence, now the presiding judge over the FISA court, Boasberg was the FISC judge who was tricked by Clinesmith and now the criminal court judge in charge of determining Clinesmith’s legal outcome. Judge Boasberg eventually sentenced Clinesmith to 6 months probation.
As an outcome of continued FISA application fraud and wrongdoing by the FBI in their exploitation of searches of the NSA database, Presiding FISC Judge James Boasberg appointed an amici curiae advisor to the court who would monitor the DOJ-NSD submissions and ongoing FBI activities.
Who did James Boasberg select as a FISA court amicus? Mary McCord.
♦ SUMMARY: Mary McCord submitted the original false FISA application to the court using the demonstrably false Dossier. Mary McCord participated in the framing of Michael Flynn. Mary McCord worked with ICIG Michael Atkinson to create a fraudulent whistleblower complaint against President Trump; and Mary McCord used that manipulated complaint to assemble articles of impeachment on behalf of the joint House Intel and Judiciary Committee. Mary McCord then took up a defensive position inside the FISA court to protect the DOJ and FBI from sunlight upon all the aforementioned corrupt activity.
You can clearly see how Mary McCord would be a person of interest if anyone was going to start digging into corruption internally within the FBI, DOJ or DOJ-NSD. Then, as if on cue to keep the entire corrupt system protected, this happened:
November 4, 2021 – In Washington DC – “Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) and the House Jan. 6 Select Committee has tapped Mary McCord, who once ran the Justice Department’s National Security Division, for representation in its fight to obtain former President Donald Trump’s White House records. (read more)
Mary McCord is the epitome of a person using a position to abuse the power within it.
Former Obama White House Counsel Lisa Monaco is now the Deputy Attorney General. John Carlin is back inside the DOJ-NSD as the Biden administration continued the Obama administration targeting of President Trump. Mary McCord returns back inside the House J-6 investigative committee put together to purposefully target Donald J Trump…
Now does the timing of Mary McCord surfacing publicly, immediately after the underlying search warrant used in the raid against Donald Trump, make sense?
McCord is the architect, the actual person putting lawfare strategy into lawfare ink and action, for the Trump targeting operations.
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As a bonus they’re going to hang the vaxx millstone around his neck too. That dam is about to burst, the MSM is already getting started.
shocking they didn’t think of this earlier, I mean it’s too obvious a play.
That’s a nothing burger. It won’t work.
Agree, it’s a nothing burger. BTW, Trump did not mandate the vax, OBiden did.
Yeah, people didn’t start getting the vaccines until the spring of 2021, totally on Biden’s watch and totally his vaccines. I’ve been saying for a long time these are Biden vaccines not Trump vaccines. Mr. Trump needs to emphasize this distinction. WHO KNOWS WHAT BIDEN HAS BEEN HANDING OUT !
Actually, the first vaccines in the US were administered on or about December 14, 2020.
What makes you think they had not thought of it long ago,,,,,and just waited for the most opportune time to do it.
Perhaps I should have said, I am surprised they didn’t earlier, and rather chose the whole “vaxxed and have Covid,thankful” crap. I also expected them to blame Covid or long Covid before the vax, but apparently they’re going directly for the end game
It will work on their base. They already detest him, the media did a great job of depersoning him.
I’ve never seen anything like it in my life.
I know people that hate the man’s guts but when pressed, can’t really tell me why. They may hit a few talking points but won’t be able to follow up with specific examples.
They’ve been programmed.
But their base LOVE the vaccine!
Nope
President Trump is NOT a Doctor. You forget who the mastermind was…do you remember Fauci. He brought along the
Scarf Lady and Redfield. Trump was misled. He was boxed in by the Deep State or whatever you call those Evil Monsters.
They are not interested in the truth. They will manipulate this however they need too.
Fauci and Gates are probably working on the next virus to emerge soon.
A political virus for the mid term elections.
Gates was creepy then, he’s creepier now
Funny, but the only program initiated by our President Trump that they didn’t dismantle was Op Warp Speed, aka the injections.
Really? Biden hasn’t once denounced any of the ‘vaccine’ experts. He has praised them, however.
God forgive me but I want to slap her smirking face.
Nothing there for God to forgive.
Prefer a war axe embedded into her skull.
Maybe I see something that others do not, but looking at that photo, “she” sure looks to have the face of a man.
Just like Avril Haines
Almost appears to have an ADAMS APPLE, eh?
Lesko Brandon FJB
😉🇺🇸
I thought the same thing “she” looks a little weird.
Well, they have been trying to normalize transgender, etc.; the DS only makes rules to benefit their objectives…
McCord ugliness is far deeper than merely physical
and is unbecoming to either gender
as for Lawfare so called
may the Boomerang
return to the Ugly slanderers who Lie for a living
MAGA ascenfant !
they are scared
don’t forget that
& it makes them dangerous
let’s not forget that either
not that the deepstate will let us forget
how dishonest & fangerous they are
Hard to tell these days!
Just posted the same thing! I believe that it’s another trans freak.
Many do; look at the wives. It’s sort of like (Queen) Victoria’s secret…possibly also for control as it’s all about marrying families together for power.
You left out the word “horse” before “face.” This is all so sad and scary, too.
She is evil incarnate.
Are you sure she’s a her and not a he?
I’m starting to think “trans” goes way back.
QUESTION EVERYTHING.
No I am not at all sure!
He Devil, She Devil, It Devil. The operative word is Devil.
1992 The Crying Game.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104036/
Nominated for academy awards.
So what one sees on the silver screen is mainstream 30 years later.
People who are motivated by Pure Evil will spend eternity roasting in he!! if they do not get right with Jesus.
Hope she and her cohorts enjoys the next life.
How do people like that live with themselves? They really are another species.
Is it a “her” or another one of these trans freaks?
Looking at this thread of the same villains intertwined in getting a trump it made me wonder when the FBI/CIA/IC was able to insert itself into our elections/politics?
I thought back to when Ford put Bush in charge of the CIA and then went as far as considered placing on the ticket briefly. I imagine the CIA might have been involved in the effort and felt slighted in 1976 when Ford chose Dole as his running mate. Somehow a peanut from Georgia won that election…?
in 1980 the brain trust decided to run Bush for the Republican nomination. Reagan wrapped up the nomination in May 1980. Reagan did not want Bush initially. But “something” changed his mind to run with the former CIA chief.
And I wonder if that is the origin of the CIA getting involved in US politics? Some might be able to point to the jFK election. But, I wonder if that was the FBI more than the CIA?
That was Chicago Politics.
Nixon knew Illinois was not an honest election, but did not want that scandal to rock the country.
It was, at LEAST since the 60’s, look into the obvious intel op to take out Goldwater, it really has to be seen IN CONTEXT with the JFK assasination, in order to get the full picture.
Goldwater and JFK had discussed and were planning to have a series of public debates, and guaranteed Viet Nam strategy would have been a major topic.
The deep State could not afford to have that public debate, nor could they afford to have either JFK or Goldwater in the Oval, as neither would have gone along with “the plan”.
Allen Dulles *hated* John F. Kennedy. Absolutely… hated. Kennedy fired him after Bay of Pigs, but he stuck around DC afterwards to continue ‘influencing’ C_A activities.
There are pictures of the Bushes (daddy George & W.) in Dallas when Kennedy was ‘silenced’.
So, this has been ongoing for a while. 1947 was when the C_A was ‘institutionalized’.
For further research on this topic, Emerald Robinson has an interesting article. It covers the Bay of Pigs / Oswald / Zapruder film, but also touches on the C_A methodologies and general disdain for any Presidential or Congressional oversight. As Sundance has outlined, the Gang of 8 is just a dirty (compromised) group of rubber-stampers put in place to protect the ‘administrative state’. Enemies within.
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/the-bay-of-pigs-invasion-what-really
Freemasonry. They are in a club and it’s been “uniparty” for a long time. Imho
Ford was the ranking GOP(e?) Member on the Warren commission 11/29/1963 to 09/24/1964. He was President 08/09/1974 to 01/20/1977.
Perhaps the two are related.
The best bud of the one and only Laura Ingram.
delete
McCord is married to Sheldon Snook. He has his own DC career.
who is the best bud of Ingram?
Mary mccord.
If that is true, the FNC followers need to know that. Thus far, Laura has captured a good number of watchers due to her demeanor, looks, and IMPLYING that she is on our side.
THEY NEED TO BE INFORMED. Now that I am, I have even more disdain for her than I previously did.
Yes, Ingram is a snake, along with Hannity. They both sold their souls for money.
McCord must feel like Wile E. Coyote when it comes to getting Trump.
You could tell she is the Mastermind. Ugly as everyone in the Biden Regime is.
Only her broom and black cat are missing in that picture.
I will ask again…
What is to be done about her?
Another Ugly Ginger.
She is not a Ginger, she would give us a bad name. 🙂
looks blonde to me but I do not want to see the carpet to confirm
Well, sometimes the carpet does not exactly match the drapes.
Pysiognomy is real.
when you see people who look like her,
and the rest of the bridge trolls in the Zho Xiden
criminal empire, trust your gut. they are as hideous
on the inside as they are on the outside.
Her behavior is criminal and treasonous. She needs hung.
Not “hung.” Hanged by the neck until dead.
All of them. They are all committing treason, by politically targeting their opponents.
So when do we call them out for this?
IMO, we would have to call out McConnell and McCarthy first and foremost; publicly. If they’re not with us, they’re against us (which they are) – it’s necessary to call them out. STAT.
Low throw over Potomac bridge.
Physical therapy ?
And others too.
So, why now?
What brought her out of the shadows?
The potential appointment of a special master?
They mean to provoke, among other things.
The Bad Press on BranDONE,,,,Miserable polls on midterms,,,,which brought the Raid,,,,which brought McCord out of costume, and into action.
IE—STOP TRUMP NOW
So, why now?
They are Trying to shape public opinion against Trump.
But, Legally they will lose in court.
….
Watched FOX news Sunday this morning.
It was sad. Same thing.
They mentioned the GOP pulling ads for Trump candidates in arizona.
Because, Trump’s candidates are too far to the right!!!!!
Nobody could defend BIDEN’s illegal student loan executive order.
it was a political mistake to do that now.
We live in interesting times.
I will never give up. Democrats need to be defeated.
.
Why now?
Well, there was that comment by Brandon saying the women are his secret weapon to defeat MAGA . . .
I’m guessing the Party are finding it difficult to sway PDJT’s supporters. I pray they make some massive errors in judgment and way overshoot their skis.
That’s a man, baby!
And Mary McCord is a dude.
That first picture looks like a mug shot…. Wish it was
Did Liz lose a few pounds and lost her glasses ?
Personally I feel Trump can release those documents anytime he wishes. I think he is holding on to them as a get out of jail free card. So long as they leave his family alone and don’t try to actually arrest him he will hold on to them and not release them. Other then that I don’t see any point to holding on to them anymore.
We will never fully know what happened.
Who will report on them?
Fox? Lol, it will get buried by everyone as Russian disinformation etc…. and hense 1/2 the country won’t believe a word of it
McCord answers to someone. She wouldn’t do all this alone.
Of Course…The Powers never are Public.
That strikes me as about the truest statement that could be made.
She is what I think of as an “active player”; she does the actual day to day work, just like mark elias, comey, weismann and a group of others.
However, these swamp dwellers did not come up with these schemes on their own, nor were they emboldened to engagevin treason, as well as a long list of serious crimes, without the assurance that “higher ups” would protect them.
And, that means CONGRESS.
Hillbill
BINGO, YeahYouRight. You’re spot on!
“Does it matter if it’s the President…?” Doesn’t look political to most objective observers.” This he/she/it has TDS and should not be anywhere near a case such as this. Thanks Sundance for putting a brighter spotlight on this “thing”. PDJT is the most innocent man on the planet and these people are as evil as they appear.
Day in and day out, nothing really changes. It’s the same thing, these DS shenanigans, done without fear of retribution.
And every time, we see the same eventual outcome.
Whenever they try to use “the process” Criminal court, Civil Court, Admistrative Law, Impeachment process, …
Eventually, its “Trump wins, FBI-NSD LOSES.”
Only when they stepped outvof that process and into other realms entirely, with Covid plandemic and election fraud, were they able to score a victory.
And even THAT was a pyric victory that yielded a short term gain, but at an incredibly high cost to THEM.
They are returning to their “go to”, cause its where they “live” and are comfortable; attacking PDJT as mishandling classified info, and obstruction; its muh russia 4.0.
Didn’t work the first, second, third or forth time, but MAYBE it will work THIS time, as it only has to work once.
And, …they got NUTHIN else.
One does not throw hail marys, when one is winning.
Author of this meme acknowledges he didn’t have room for another 500 doors . . .
Also, they need to keep the Mockingbirds in business to move forward.
An amazing combination of sarcopenia, scoliosis, PolitiHair, and bureaucratic evil…McCord is the Ian McKellen of Liz Cheneys.
“When in doubt, always follow your nose.”
KaweahKid: Acromegaly
Intriguing diagnosis, e.g., Somatotroph adenoma. Looking again (it takes a certain steely resolve) it makes sense. Otherwise known as Max Von Sydow Syndrome, or Christopher Lee’s Disease.
Reading about acromegaly, though, it seems like a terrible disease. Much like my rheumatoid arthritis…
…so I feel a little bad about mocking it. 🤔
Oh my! Had to clean my keyboard after that comment..
poor old satan gets the really really uglies
…in TrumpSpeak, would that be Bigly Ugly, or “Bugly”?
…our Yuge Uglies, or “Yuglies”? …I claim no expertise in this lexicon.
I think we just found a non-pharmaceutical agonist to Viagra effects.
Bug Ugly
It is the sapping of their souls, as the soul, and God within us shining out is the true source of beauty.
Another ugly liberal woman.
That’s no woman! That’s a guy in drag.
I think they are trying to stretch this thing for as long as they can until the next plan. Why else would they just keep dragging this along? Playing games with the Americans. what is the end Game? They win.
Get Trump! has entered end game.
Looks like she has a chin implant.
A pox on her and the broom she rode in on.
Is Mary McCord a man? You never know these days…..
Have to wonder if her coming out of the shadows means she’s gloating and sure she finally got Trump.
The very face of EVIL.
The search and grabbing of material from the Trump property was all about confiscating evidence which the CIA, FBI and Biden regime would rather not come to public knowledge. It would toast them beyond recourse.
I’m sure Trump has copies. LOL!
Why wouldn’t he?
Mary McCord may be the kingpin of malfeasance in this treasonous cabal but if you a measure her record of success based on ‘getting Trump’ she’s been a complete failure so far.
She doesn’t have to get him, just imply impropriety. We know her opus is false yet no one will touch her. She relies on the morals of men to keep her from harm.
I have a friend that would like meet with her. We call him the rack master.
My view: Because President Trump’s attorneys are gaining some traction in the Presidential Records Act litigation in the Southern District of Florida, Mary McCord will be appointed Special Counsel by AG Garland to prosecute President Donald J. Trump in the U. S. District Court for the District of the District of Columbia, based on a grand jury indictment that tracks Friday’s editorial by the Editorial Board of the New York Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/26/opinion/trump-documents-jan-6-prosecute.html
“McCord is the architect, the actual person putting lawfare strategy into lawfare ink and action, for the Trump targeting operations.”
Well… has Sundance ever come to this definitive conclusion before? I can’t remember, honestly… it’s been a firehose of information and analysis over the years. But this piece spells it out, clear as day.
Let’s put it this way: if Mary McCoup isn’t the “architect”, per se, then she sure as HELL is somebody’s left hand Horse Face… I mean man… err woman… whatever.
Sundance has been on it and oft noted the moves and machinations of this odious Communist.
Sorry! But that is actually Mark McCord. Not a one of them is normal.
I’ll swim against the tide and say I hope THEY had down an indictment.
That will lay bare our corrupt government and lead a call to arms. Cause when THEY do this to as President THEY sure as hell will fabricate charges against us.
Breaking Now…
* FBI Tells US District Judge Aileen Cannon “Our warrant is as narrowly-tailored as Melania’s underwear, Your Honor!”
In other Lingerie News, the Bureau revealed that after a lengthy, lengthy investigation, they had finally discovered Victoria’s Secret: Victoria is, in fact, 50 years old, overweight and a man.
Victoria was then promoted to head the D.C. Field Office.
* In Bizarre Hostage Video, Attorney General Merrick Gangland Blinks Out Message: “Only Night Janitor at DOJ Knew About Warrant!”.
Also, in an effort to end the widely-hated practice of prosecuting Republicans only for alleged violations of the Federal Code, the Fake Attorney General proposed a solution: “We will codify two sets of laws, one for the Uni-Party and another one for you Trumpsters.”
The new-same old policy will be known as “Jim Crow 2.0”.
* Senator Tim Scott pleaded for calm in the wake of the Great Northfield Safe Robbery, saying “We need to let the process play out.”
“That way, we can determine if our dictatorship is Nazi or Communist,” said the senator.
In another stunning switch, gun control advocates also approved of bringing “weapons of war” to the President’s house “in case he gets out of line”.
That’s not girl.
Just to put into the notes:
McCord spent nearly 20 years as an assistant US attorney in the US Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia. She held a number of posts, including Chief of the Criminal Division, where she managed all criminal prosecutions in federal district court, and Deputy Chief in the Appellate Division.
Sheldon Snook, her husband, is a lawyer who formerly served as the U.S. District Court of Columbia’s administrative assistant. He is currently the Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court’s special assistant to the counsel.
Because everyone in DC seems to belong to the same club, or is related, I thought it would be helpful to know a bit more about where she was before gov’t and who she is married to.
One more thing, I forgot to include that she is a Visiting Professor at Georgetown Law.
Is Sheldon visually impaired?
She doesn’t look very smart. I just wonder who is pulling her “strings” ??
Um, . . .
🤔
Am I the only one who think Mary looks like a dude. . .
With an 80’s women’s hair cut?
Not saying Mary IS
a dude
Just sayin
Giant Adams apple
And
A
Dude face
donald sutherland with @@s
FMM
There is your target folks! And an UGLY one at that!
And yet Mary McCloud seems more like a gopher going around accomplishing all these tasks. Who has been behind the scenes coordinating and help her to get to all these critical positions? She is a major player. Keep climbing up the ladder.
THAT’S A MAN, BABY!
And a filthy Deep State traitor who should be treated as such.
May Mary burn herself
– this time.
Crispy
Out of the shadows for a victory lap and the adulation from the fellow travelers and other oppressors.
Yeah, team.
Communist revolutionaries posing as DOJ lawyers and judges.
They can never relinquish power with this scale of criminality.
I pray for Our Country.
When will these people be brought to justice? They are way too emboldened.
Never. It’s why they have no fear…perhaps we can introduce her to some
Terminal TDS twists these critters faces into a hideous maw. McCord is right up there with John Brennan. Speaking of, where is that abhorrent individual? I’ll bet he is behind much of the goings on of late.
Actually seeing all these players and now knowing that from DAY freakin ONE they plotted against him , my heart just breaks for President Trump – it’s the palace guard that runs the country apparently inter married , same political views , social and school ties etc – no one allowed except by permission and approval – Ron ? are they calling your name … are you ready for your closeup?
You sure it’s Mary, and not Marty? If that isn’t a man’s face, what is?
Who IS Mary McCord and why does she have so much power and so much animus against Trump. The name McCord send familiar to me from CIA annals. Wasn’t a Mrs. McCord a mistress of JFK while her jealous husband was a CIA exec? Am I remembering this right? Any relation? CIA royalty?
She doesn’t. She’s an errand girl.
Not surprised. Just look at her: An ugly horrid woman, a typical progressive “woman”
That’s a man, baby!!! I didn’t know Richard Levine had a brother.
That is not a female.
Uh uh. That is a trans. Like Big Mike. Full stop. Id bet the house on that.
Definitely.
A face that has never known makeup, hair that has never known a brush.
And a muff that has never been….
No!!! I don’t even want to think about that!!!!