The agenda around the targeting of President Trump and any documents held in his Mar-a-Lago home is obvious. However, the framing of the media narrative around the targeting effort is even more ridiculous than the Trump-Russia conspiracy narrative. [Transcript]
Appearing on CBS Face the Nation, current HPSCI Chairman Adam Schiff, a man of notoriously deceitful disposition, claims he has seen no evidence President Trump declassified documents prior to the end of his term. A ridiculous lie debunked by years of statements and documents from former DNI Ric Grenell, former DNI John Ratcliffe President Trump himself, and documents from the White House to the DOJ that are now part of the public record. WATCH:
I know it is painful to watch these deep state participants spin their nonsense; the sanctimonious nonsense from the CBS narrative engineers is even worse. However, it is only by watching the narrative pushed toward the audience that you can truly absorb the intents and motives of the deepest Deep State liars, which includes republicans.
[Transcript] – MARGARET BRENNAN: You are typically told about covert operations, ongoing national security threats. Do you have any sense at this time whether the information that Donald Trump had in his Florida residence posed any kind of threat to national security?
REP. SCHIFF: Well, all I know about the actual materials is what was in that search warrant inventory, but from that alone, you can tell there was a serious risk to disclosure potentially of sources and methods, because some of those documents were marked top secret, sensitive compartmented information. That is among the highest of designation in terms of the- the extremely grave damage to national security that could be done if it were disclosed. So, the fact that they were in an unsecure place that is guarded with nothing more than a padlock or whatever security they had at a hotel is deeply alarming. And I have asked for, along with Chairman Maloney, a damage assessment by the intelligence community and a briefing to Congress.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Will you get one? Have you heard from the Director of National Intelligence?
REP. SCHIFF: I have not heard back yet. But I’m confident we will get one and I’m confident the intelligence community will do a damage assessment that is, I think, fairly routine when there has been the potential risk of disclosure of national security information or classified information. What is, to me, most disturbing here is the degree to which at least from the public reporting, it attempted- you know, it appears to be willful, on the President’s part, the- the- the keeping of these documents after the government was requesting them back. And that is- adds another layer of concern.
MARGARET BRENNAN: So, if there were truly materials of this classification level, and it’s been publicly reported elsewhere, that there were materials related to nuclear programs, for example, if there was that sensitive level of information being held, why did Justice Department officials wait 18 months after the end of the Trump presidency? What changed that made this immediate?
REP. SCHIFF: I don’t know. But if the Trump people represented that they provided all the classified or national security information and didn’t, that’s a serious problem. I can tell you anyone in the intelligence community that had documents like that marked top secret SCI, in their residence after authorities went to them, you know, they would be under serious investigation.
MARGARET BRENNAN: You know, the President has broad declassification authority when he is in office, but typically a declassification is memorialized in some way. Can you seek out the answer to the question of whether there actually is record of whether Donald Trump declassified that? That’s his defense here, that anything he had, he had already declassified.
REP. SCHIFF: Yes, we should determine, you know, whether there was any effort during the presidency to go through the process of declassification. I’ve seen no evidence of that, nor have they presented any evidence of that. The idea, first of all, a former president has no declassification authority. And the idea that 18 months after the fact Donald Trump- Trump could simply announce, well, I’m you know, retroactively declassifying or whatever I took home had the effect of declassifying them is absurd. But nonetheless, the statutes the Justice Department are asserting in the search warrant, don’t even require that they still be classified. If they would be damaging to national security, it’s a problem. It’s a major problem. And finally, I’d like to add the reaction of many of my Republican colleagues and those around the former president to attack the FBI over this and endanger FBI agents is just another damaging level of irresponsibility.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, also, we learned this past week that your colleague, Congressman Scott Perry, who leads the Freedom Caucus- the Justice Department seized his cell phone as part of their investigation into the attempts to overturn the election results in 2020 and that slate of fake electors. The committee looked into his actions and the slate of fake electors. We heard during the public testimony about that, and some conspiracy theories that he had been talking to Mark Meadows, the Chief of Staff, about. Are those two parts of those investigations overlapping here?
REP. SCHIFF: Well, to the degree that the Justice Department appears to be investigating the fake elector plot, then yes, our investigations would very much be overlapping. What is to me most striking about the seizure of that phone is in order to do that, of course, they would have to make a showing to a judge or grand jury about there being probable cause that there was evidence of a crime on that phone and the fact that it was a member of Congress’s phone, I think, would make the Justice Department all the more certain, or need to be certain, that they had the probable cause. And that also suggests the Department thinks that this fake elector plot was a violation of law, which I think it certainly was. So, I think it’s very significant. All those respects.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Yeah, and just- that is its own federal investigation there. On another topic, I want to ask you, we are coming up on this one-year anniversary of the U.S withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the Taliban takeover of that country. You said at the time of the withdrawal, that you would have liked the military to stay on as long as necessary to get Americans out and fulfill our obligation to our allies. You had pledged vigorous oversight. We haven’t seen the White House or State Department after-action reports on this. The country is just in utter devastation under Taliban rule. Did it really have to be this bad?
REP. SCHIFF: Well, I certainly don’t think the withdrawal had to go as it did, and the loss of American lives during the withdrawal, and the degree to which it took months and months and we continue to try to help people escape from Afghanistan, I think could have been handled differently. But I do think that we- we have demonstrated, the administration has demonstrated with the killing of Zawahiri, the number two in Al-Qaeda under Bin Laden, that it retains the capability, much as it said it would a year later to go after those that threaten the country
wherever they may be, in this case, the heart of Kabul. I think, you know, the killing of Zawahiri, shows both the danger and also our capability. The danger in that I think clearly high elements of the Taliban government had to know that he was there and were giving him safe harbor at the same time.
MARGARET BRENNAN: –Is Al-Qaeda an ongoing threat?
REP. SCHIFF: Al Qaeda is an ongoing threat. I think, though, that the threat from al Qaeda is probably greater outside Afghanistan than it is in Afghanistan.
MARGARET BRENNAN: Chairman Schiff, thank you for your time this morning. We’ll be back in a moment. (read more)
Think about it…. Any documents that would show a corrupt deep state targeting effort against Donald Trump would be considered a ‘threat to national security,’ as defined by the people doing the targeting against Trump. It’s the issue CTH has been outlining for years.
How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal? pic.twitter.com/oT5yPtPgIo
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) October 10, 2020
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Zimmre Schiff. Proditor in unum , proditor in omnibus
Okay, in case anyone didn’t notice, the Deepstate is sending increasingly dorky trolls whiteboard here to post increasingly ridiculous propaganda. The amateurish attempts are encouraging and a reminder that DC Lifers are not the sharpest tools in the shed. So let’s maybe just stick with the plan, roughly outlined by Dutchman below, of participating at the local levels and showing up en masse to vote in November. (Also, fwiw just want to hereby give notice that any/all of my comments/ideas are freely shared with the maga movement, and am flattered if anyone wants to share or repost).
Thanks for the thumbs up.
I have posted a couple of “tips for spotting rolcons” on the Presidential thread, in part because trying to contest the rolcons one at a time IS becoming tedious.
Might as well deal with it, en mass, right?
Also note that it is against commenting guidelines to post a comment calling another poster names, including “rolcon” or “troll”.
Firstly, cause we all want to keep it civil, and not get into mutual name calling.
A quote from an actual Homeowners association meeting that still makes me smile;
“Don’t call ME an asshole, you asshole!”
Beyond that, rolcons do what they do, hoping to decieve others into falling for their deceptive false narratives, and ideally repeating them.
Hence, even when I am responding to a comment that is a rolcon deception, I keep in mind the poster maybe ISN’T a rolcon, just decieved.
I TRY (Admittedly its sometimes difficult) to write my responce keeping that in mind, and that I am also writing to ALL who are reading, which may include lurkers who likewise, are “falling for” the deception.
So, is it just a coincidence that just as we approach midterm primaries, we are getting SO MANY Comments which in a variety of different ways, discourage voting?
I don’t THINK so. “Well when they are shooting at you, you know you are doing SOMETHING right!”
Gratified that I see so many other posters, also pushing back against the “Vote straight R” and its variations.
In the runup to the 2018 midterms, when I said I would NOT vote for ANY RINO, even if PDJT endorsed them (McSally, for instance) I got a LOT of negative pushback, and only a LITTLE support.
Now, I see such a post, and am all ready to bruise my knuckles with a scathing responce,…and I scroll down to see there are 8-10 responces, pushing back.
“,…must be doing SOMETHING right!”
Dutch, you always provide great insights.
The trolls are out in force that is for sure. Not just here but many other sites too. It’s definitely been increased.
Around this area
“A Signed 2018 contract providing proof that OBAMA kept classified documents outside of government control — for years.”
https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2022/08/14/a-signed-2018-contract-providing-proof-that-obama-kept-classified-documents-outside-of-government-control-for-years/
And
https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2022/08/14/when-the-largest-government-in-the-world-is-against-you/
Someone should tell Margaret that excessive blinking is body language Lying 101.
They either think we’re so stupid we don’t know or won’t look into the fact that the President is the final , legal, ultimate de-classifier, period. Including when the President leaves office. This is so dumb, I can’t believe it. Trump is destroying the norms hahahahaha
Yep, it’s been obvious for awhile now that Dems have the emotional level of stunted adolescents.
More than that, though it shows just how desperate they are; their toolbox only includes a few tools, and they have already rendered their (formerly) most valuable tools inneffective.
“What does it matter that you have total control of MSM, when nobody believes MSM?”
How useful is it to have a “controlled opposition” party, once everyone sees thru the charade?
Once the AMA officially endorses transgenderism and participates in COVID scam, WHO is going to EVER Blindly “Trust your Dr” again?
We WON the debate in School vouchers, 20+ years ago. Seeing they were going to lose, thats WHY they (both the opponents of vouchers, and the RINOS supposedly representing us) suddenly proposed a COMPROMISE of “Charter Schools”.
After what Covid School lockdowns, etc exposed, the Public education system (and therefore the teachers unions) is TOAST.
Its just a matter of time, and the system catching up to REALITY.
Similar to the R vs W abortion issue. We actually won the debate, when sonogram and interutero photos became widely disseminated.
R v W being overturned was just the system catching up to reality.
They did not destroy their greatest tools because they wanted to, but because they HAD to, in their desperate attempt to “stop Trump”. They HAVE destroyed the tools, they HAVEN’T Stopped Trump.
their barrels have melted, and they are out of ammo, and down to bayonets.
The usual from The Swamp. Guilty until proven innocent.
“I have seen no evidence that he declassified anything.” Therefore he must be guilty.
Perhaps you were too busy making the rounds on the boob tube to present your last set of lies. Evidence in lain sight, that never was… Where’s the LIE Reel for Shifty Schiff? Must be YUGE!
Needs to visit an optometrist, obviously.
Saw all sorts of evidence that didn’t exist, of PDJT’s guilt, and now sees “no evidence”?
Also saw “no evidence” of election fraud in “the most secure in our history election.
Actually he doesn’t need an optometrist.
Needs surgery to install a plexiglass window in his belly, so at least he can see where he’s walking, as his head is permanently, …
Remember The Standard Hotel is in Schiff’s district.
Parsing words “has seen”
One thing we never heard was the amount of classified TS/SCI materials on Weiner’s laptop. I think it is a pretty safe bet Humadore had almost every single email Hillary trafficked, as well as much more since I think she handled the bulk of Hillary’s business.
I have always assumed few people had Hill’s email, they had to work thru her gatekeeper.
Just think. Top Secret material on the laptop that a convicted pedo was surfing porn sites with AND NOBODY CARED
I’d like hear Adam Schiff and the rest of them comment on the Billions of classified and top secret materiel that Biden left in Afghanistan which the Chinese are having a field day back engineering as I type.
That is stuff that was actually given to the enemy. But like all things from Schiff et al this is just a selective memory indulgance.
The day this guy and his friends are led away in chains in full glare of the press will be a day that America starts on the road to recovery.
Ratcliffe and Grenell should have just dropped all the documents accessed. They followed laws to keep us in the dark. Wonder how their bank accounts faired.
If you think this Schiffy is bad, think about the people that voted for him.
Even CNN admits there is a scif at Mara Lago. Isn’t that a place to store and view classified documents?
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/14/politics/trump-documents-mar-a-lago/index.html
This is the same shifty slime that swore repeatedly he HAD seen evidence of Russia Russia Russia.
They do the work of their father, satan the father of lies
Pure unadulterated EVIL
I often wonder what Musolini said? I know he told plenty of lies and no one on this side of history has any sympathy about his end. I wonder if the same will be said of others… looking at you..
Both demented critters – one trying to appear reasonable.
“How does the office of a U.S. president; and more importantly the republic itself; survive a coordinated coup effort involving all three branches of government; while simultaneously those in charge of exposing the corruption fear the scale is too damaging for them to reveal?”
The Second Amendment.
Tried to get the size of the viewing audience for Fake the Nation this past weekend, but there was very limited information available on the internet. However, it seemed, fom what was availabe, that the viewing audience for the 25+ age was just about 547,000 viewers. IMESHO, that would be a very small audience for such a program, but would represent the apathy of the nation for an interview between schiff and that host. Is that “interview” an act of desperation for both schiff and the networkk?? Do the advertisers really feel that they are getting their money’s worth??
If McCarthy is indeed speaker come the new Congress, at the very least he needs to kick Schiff off any committee that has any power. I want to see scorched Earth. These communists and riffraff need to be taught a lesson.
McCarthy cannot be allowed to be Speaker. I want to see someone MUCH tougher and more direct and more, well, brutal as Speaker. Does Lake have a twin?
The good news, the American people seem to be more alert than they have been in the past to lies from Democrats and supposed official sources.
The bad news is that the Democrats seem not to care whether anyone believes them or not anymore, they seem to be feeling secure that the elections this November somehow will not change anything. I fear this means they plan to cheat even more massively than previously, and seem not to worry about exposure. I suppose that the American people will react negatively to that. Very possibly in an energetic fashion, but we need to be aware that the deep state is also bright enough to figure that out.
And since an ounce of prevention is worth many many pounds of cure, I caution citizens of Arkansas, that I think I see signs that their state might be added to those where bizarre things happen to ballots and elections.
“Sunday Talks, Adam Schiff Claims He Has Seen No Evidence That President Trump Declassified Documents, a Ridiculous Lie” “Adam Schiff” and “ridiculous lie” go together in a sentence like “peanut butter” and “jelly”.
Sure, some vaguely top-secret or perhaps not-so-secret documents that were declassified but these older copies were not updated to remove the top secret header designator. i.e. a clerical error… Yeah that’s enough to go after Trump. This whole debacle has boosted Trump’s support 10 whole points in the last days. The more the deep state doubles down on stupid the worse it gets for them.
Talk about a rigged system, Bill Clinton lost his nuclear football code card for about a month. Then Obama misplaced his as well. Hillary clearly had several severe conflicts of interest where she used her political position as Head of State to fund raise (accept bribes) from foreign nationals and she had never used her State Department email address only her personal one that was clearly not secured properly. She then proceeded to delete 33,000 emails and smash her BlackBerry with a hammer. Then you had Sandy (burglar) Berger sneak sensitive documents out of the National Archives stuffed down his pants and socks. Some of those documents were destroyed. Sandy paid a $10k fine, lost his security clearance during the remainder of the Bush admin but clearance was returned under Obama admin. Finally we come to the current POTUS who is clearly a racist with a provable racist background and endless quotes including audio of racist statements. Youngest politician when he won his first election and he literally stood up and told everyone he was FOR SALE FOR THE RIGHT PRICE. He’s been involved in shady dealings as his son, Hunter has operated as a proxy bag man collecting dirty money from several foreign nations. Same kind of scam as Hillary just nowhere near as well structured. Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein have all profited from insider information where their husbands make stock trades based on confidential Senate / House information prior to a vote. Politicians can accept all sorts of funds and perks from Lobbyists and in the private sector it’s called bribery. In the hallowed halls of the Republic it’s called business as usual.
Sorry Shiffy, you don’t need to see evidence if he declassified them or not and neither does the archives.
19 months since PDJT left the WH and now the DoJ/FBI has just become aware that these critically important documents are missing or have been mishandled? FYI there are very detailed and specific protocols required by statute for CoC for this material requiring frequent physical verification of location/possession/accession, etc. The facts are all there for anyone who cares to look. The “legal” basis of the raid is ludicrous.
I hate this effeminate evil beta. He didn’t even fake cry during this fake interview. May 1000 fleas infest the interviewers crotch.
If the President speaks of something, he declassifies it. If he takes it with him, he declassifies it. He does not have to follow the rules that apply to everyone else since the authority – like every other Executive Branch authority – singularly proceeds from the singular executive authority: Him.
“Presidency has its privileges,” and this is one of them.
Just put a big target on this communist back and see what happens.
Why does anyone quote anything Schiff says? THere is no value in reading lies unless the liar can and will be prosecuted for it. Has that EVER happened to a Democrat?
This is the first time in the past five years that Schiff claims NOT to have the evidence.
Schiff should be the first to lose his committee assignment
this ‘BUG-EYED’, ANTI-American SCHIFF-head is a POS liar, period !
This guy makes me want to vomit. He well knows that there is NO “process” of declassification. Presidents for many years have declassified things on a moment’s notice with a wave of their hand. All that is required is for POTUS to say, write, nod, wave, grumble, cough or otherwise indicate that he material in question is hereby declassified. Nothing else is needed. AND, it’s declassified forever. No give backs.
So this interview was to plug his book, if I’m understanding correctly.