We must always keep focus on the context for information that comes from the U.S. State Dept and the Central Intelligence Agency to the media. Yesterday, as Joe Biden was en route to the G7 summit in the Bavarian Alps, the New York Times published an article saying the CIA and Pentagon special forces are organizing and conducting the NATO war effort from a secret operation center in Kyiv.
Some viewed the article as the NYT violating operational security for the U.S. led effort. However, that perspective belies the nature of how the media is used in war by Dept of State and intelligence officials. The details of the Times article are attributed to “three U.S. officials,” and should be looked upon as purposeful.
In addition to the timing of Biden headed to the G7, the admission of CIA officials conducting the war effort from inside Ukraine, comes as NATO partner country Lithuania informs Russia that prior transit treaties to the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad will not be honored. NATO is poking and provoking a response from Russia, the Times article is part of this effort.
New York Times – … [E]ven as the Biden administration has declared it will not deploy American troops to Ukraine, some C.I.A. personnel have continued to operate in the country secretly, mostly in the capital, Kyiv, directing much of the vast amounts of intelligence the United States is sharing with Ukrainian forces, according to current and former officials.
At the same time, a few dozen commandos from other NATO countries, including Britain, France, Canada and Lithuania, also have been working inside Ukraine. The United States withdrew its own 150 military instructors before the war began in February, but commandos from these allies either remained or have gone in and out of the country since then, training and advising Ukrainian troops and providing an on-the-ground conduit for weapons and other aid, three U.S. officials said.
Few other details have emerged about what the C.I.A. personnel or the commandos are doing, but their presence in the country — on top of the diplomatic staff members who returned after Russia gave up its siege of Kyiv — hints at the scale of the secretive effort to assist Ukraine that is underway and the risks that Washington and its allies are taking.
[…] The commandos are not on the front lines with Ukrainian troops and instead advise from headquarters in other parts of the country or remotely by encrypted communications, according to American and other Western officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss operational matters. But the signs of their stealthy logistics, training and intelligence support are tangible on the battlefield.
Several lower-level Ukrainian commanders recently expressed appreciation to the United States for intelligence gleaned from satellite imagery, which they can call up on tablet computers provided by the allies. The tablets run a battlefield mapping app that the Ukrainians use to target and attack Russian troops. (read more)
Regardless of debatable opinion on the Russian special military operation in eastern Ukraine, there are multiple motives for NATO and western government to escalate the proxy war against Vladimir Putin.
The proxy war in Ukraine provides a cover justification for the economic consequences driven by western government COVID-19 spending and policy. We are seeing Russia being blamed for oil shortages, an EU energy crisis, U.S. gasoline prices, global food and fertilizer shortages, as well as global inflation overall.
While there is some latter causation in EU energy disruption related to the Ukraine war, the blaming of Putin is wildly disproportionate to the actual impact from the Russian operation; not to mention disconnected from the reality of those economic consequences surfacing long before the February 24th Russian incursion began.
Factually, it is the NATO and Western sanctions against Russia that have contributed to the Ukraine impact on the global economy. Russia has no issue selling oil, gas and food related products to the global market. It is the sanctions that forbid the sales and created the fracture in global trade now impacting the EU and to a lesser extent the U.S.
All of that said, consider the position of Vladimir Putin now as the U.S. openly admits to conducting military operations against Russia from inside Ukraine while NATO allies like Lithuania announce blockades against products to and from Russian civilians in Kaliningrad.
Putin knows the U.S-led NATO alliance would like nothing more than to invoke article 5 of the NATO treaty if Russia takes any hostile action toward a NATO country. The Russian president is likely not going to fall for any bait that can be placed in front of him. However, that doesn’t mean Vladimir Putin does not have options to strike back against increased provocation.
Russia can strike any region inside Ukraine, including any area they previously did not have as a target, without changing the dynamic of current hostilities. This puts the capital city of Kyiv in a precarious place, especially given the pronouncements by U.S. officials that CIA and Pentagon operators are working to fight Putin’s forces from inside Kyiv. Again, a pronouncement that could be looked upon as intentionally publicized in order to provoke such a move.
Russia can also shut down the remaining pipelines out of Russia and sell oil and natural gas, albeit at higher prices, to non-western countries (India, China, etc).
As the ongoing successful effort in eastern continues, Russia has options to ignore NATO’s desire to expand the conflict or he could target very strategic operation centers in Western Ukraine that are being used as bait by U.S. officials promoting their antagonism through the New York Times.
The west tends to think just of Putin. But he has many astute people around him. For instance Lavrov, their foreign minister. I’ve read a number of his speeches. He’s smart, articulate and widely informed. He makes long speeches without notes, and is totally aware of all permutations and possibilities world wide.
Putin doesn’t exist in a vacuum, but the west always demonizes and personalizes a single scapegoat. There is so much more intellectual, historical and cultural depth on their side than the mere image of Putin as some kind of mad man. And he’s more lucid and poised than anyone in the G7 leadership by a long shot. Not to be underestimated.
I have seen many speeches and interviews from both…… they strike me as very smart.
Also more rational, just, and non-duplicitous than the Commie fools of the West, who, while possessing little intelligence, have no respect for that of others.
Yes. In all aspects of this conflict, the Russians outshine the West.
Except in their military incompetence.
Haha, good one.
It wasn’t the Russians who told the Ukrainians to install screen doors on their submarines.
Thanks for using double speakers english. While now common place, double speakers still evoke genuine laughter.
Yet they are no longer in Kiev of Kharkiv.
Offering reports from make believe world offers so many possibilities.
Next time, perhaps include a report on what the pixies and tooth fairies are doing.
If a million US military service members got slaughtered, I doubt if ALL in Kongress would know a single one! US politicians are SO DETACHED from constituents a CATASTROPHE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID! They don’t know and DON’T CARE! They don’t know the people; they don’t know their needs; they don’t know their fears AND THEY KNOW NOTHING OF THE LEGISLATION THEY ARGUE ABOUT! They worry about THE MONEY!
Taxation with no representation. Where have we heard this before? So when does our next revolution begin?? I am more than ready!!
Its already begun. If youre “more than ready” then wake up, stand up and start helping out.
https://theprecinctstrategy.com
https://truethevote.org
When Russians spoke to the UN they clearly laid out people being sickened / died near some of the US bio-labs. Completely ignored by all media.
“Ignored by all media”.
Great news!!!!! Fact check: False
Globalist Corporate Media =/= “all media” and their trusting audience is a minority
The bio weapons news is being widely covered internationally and by decentralized alt media sites in the west.
Perhaps get better sources if yours aren’t covering the bio weapons stories or at least add ones that are to your info buffet.
Frankly, the USDoS and Bidenoids are utterly juvenile by comparison. That’s the most troubling thing about this. We are in the grip of a profoundly dysfunctional and disingenuous cabal of dilettantes and predatory interlopers of marginal talent and ability.
They are “The Great Mediocrity” of promiscuously credentialed lightweights trafficking in their arrested development and party loyalties without much regard or concern for the trustee duty they trample with the arrogance of a distempered child.
The culture of malformed aging juveniles infesting our great institutions are entirely capable of getting hundreds of millions killed, as there are great vanities to preserve and hubris to protect.
The Condescenti and their legions of Narcissus won’t hesitate to sacrifice others to pay the price required to defend the self-image of the self-appointed and institutionalized elite.
Ditto. Our country is being run by a gaggle of Wesley Mouch types, who can’t find their a$$ with both hands.
Correction: They couldn’t find their a$$ with both hands, a map, compass and instructions.
bet they even know what a woman is.
Putin’s Director of the Russian Central bank is a standout and responsible for her utter brilliance in the performance of the Russian economy and ruble performance since the end of February. Putin is surrounded by diplomatic and intellectual giants, bar none.
The collective West is managed by sub-mediocre dummkopfs.
They are playing with fire.
Putin isn’t a mad man. He’s simply evil and must be stopped. The problem, though, is stopping him in such a way as to not result in Russia becoming a Chinese client state.
is it you …old realist????check- The Vineyard of the Saker-…for update of Special Military Operation in 404 country…..
Yep. He’s totally indoctrinated by the msm. He’s smart. He watches teevee.
check – military summary – on youtube daily for ukraine nato russia fed updates
Putin put Pussy Riot in jail. That makes him a Saint!
Orange Man Bad and Vlad Man Bad.
They are both “eViL and mUst bE sToPpED”, comrades.
😂😂😂😂😂
Compared to the nihilistic, anti-American, scum de la scum of supervillains you support, Putin is a saint.
For the past eight years your team has been responsible for pitting Ukrainians and Russians, whom are essentially the same people, in a deathmatch against each other.
Post communist Russia has done nothing to adversely affect my quality of life, despite all the efforts made by deceitful, dishonourable dirtbags to blame Russia for every Ill to befall the flailing west.
Using the Federal Governments intel apparatus, these criminals even went as far as smearing and persecuting a duly elected US President, a good man, a courageous man whose only crime was to fight, to get the best deal for America. And now we are all supposed to forget that it ever happened, and all carry on hating the Russians? Pfffttt!
In no way is Putin or Russia close to posing the same danger to the “free world(or what’s left of it), when compared to the destructive malaise the soulless globalist ghouls have wrought upon the US, and it’s people.
Excellent! My feelings exactly!
Compare Putin to any of the G7 leaders, say Justin Trudeau and you have a bunch of Keystone Kops up against an ex-KGB intelligence officer.
At least with Trump there was a level of respect from Putin, he didn’t pull shit on Trump’s watch but Biden? A half senile, hair sniffing leader of the Biden crime gang, the loser of Afghanistan and his administration with VP Harris, who makes AOC look smart!
The G7 leadership are desperate for WW3 to cover up their crimes and incompetence but they’re going to fail, and that only make Russia look like a real superpower and the US look like a bunch of toddlers trying to play a game of Risk.
Yes, Lavrov is a very calm, educated and intelligent man.
It is a pleasure to listen to people like Lavrov opine on world events.
And the facts are that nothing he ever says has been debunked.
Media and political tools like Biden and Johnson such trot the same old same old “Russian disinformation” but they never elaborate why that is so, because Lavrov is telling the truth.
They’ve outfoxed the Administration, DoD and US Intel so far.
It is worth bearing in mind that ANY foreign agent is a mercenary……. and they get what they deserve………
aka f8ck em.
not true. Look it up.
I think our CIA wouldn’t blink an eye to send in our elite special forces on some dark mission. They don’t care about our soldiers. And our soldiers are not in a position where they can refuse.
They can say that it is an illegal order and a war crime.
The cia is full of spec ops soilders
If Putin is smart, which IMHO he is very much so, he would not attack directly Kiev.
Instead, he would send clandestine 5th column personnel to do the deed from the ground. It would give him plausible deniability.
It would be one step from a check mate. The US and NATO would not know how to respond.
Kyiv us being bombarded today by Russian artillery. Maybe because Putin got wind that the CIA is in Kyiv.
Did you pay attention to Feb/March?
Z
The USA has become Russia in the 50s and Russia has become USA in the 60s.
The God of this world is infinitely more intelligent than the foolish children in the government and has the experience of the ages. He owns them and will have them do his bidding and they are so blind they think that they are in control. Working for the father of all lies, the destroyer the murderer has its perks until it doesn’t. Maranatha
Russia under Putin is more like Germany in the 30s.
You dumbazz troll. Go back to your basement.
Is this dumbazz-oldrealist ????
We killed about 500,000 children in the ME during our wars for democracy. Putin may be evil but we have no room to talk.
Why is Putin evil?
You sound like CNN/DNC.
Source: just trust me
Reaction: 😂😂😂😂
Where is the rest of your Aztec sales posse?
Did Christian Warren and major Rage need some R&R?
Hope you folks get some quality grief counselling included with your 30 pieces of silver.
Just a few items from many in today’s efforts by the RF military.
High-precision attacks of Russian Aerospace Forces and Kalibr missiles were launched at 169th Army Training Centre near Desna (Chernigov region), 199th Air Assault Troops Training Centre near Teterevka (Zhitomir region), as well as at 184th Training Centre of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) near Starichi (Lvov region).
Also of note is the strikes on Kiev from the Caspian Sea & from the airspace of Belarus. The Russian Federation used Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic bombers. They launched X-101 missiles, which can fly up to 5500 km. At the same time, Russian warships fired up to 50 missiles at targets all over Ukraine — targeting Ukrop bases, manufacturing sites of air to air missiles in Kiev disguised as “residential buildings” & other military targets .
The mercenaries are dying, fleeing, and being captures. I doubt any of these CIA types will affect the ultimate outcome which is a total defeat of the proxy state of Ukraine by Russia. If Putin pulls the plug on all oil, gas, strategic minerals, strategic metals, fertilizers, etc., shipments to the EU countries, they are toast well before cold weather sets in this year.
My bet is that Ukrainian resources like oil/gas, food will be redirected to the 3rd world clients of the BRICS alliance, and at cheaper prices then what the West will charge.
The EU will be sacrificed by the people behind the G7 leaders(the Deep State/WEF) to push chaos and social instability as an excuse to impose totalitarian rule on the Western countries.
This will fail, Putin and China already know NATO’s playbook and this has been factored in just like the Western sanctions were and which boomeranged back into the faces of the G7(more like G6 since it’s looking like Japan isn’t up to antagonizing China over the Taiwan issue and doesn’t want any part of WW3).
Russia doesn’t need to expand its Ukraine operations to affect the EU/US, his ally, China can increase provocation against Taiwan which creates a 2 front war. Just like Germany and Japan did. And as we and Russia did in WW2.
Wonder if Taiwan has nukes?
No. China won’t let that happen.
Taiwan has bio weapons labs like Ukraine had. Among other things.
Governments =/= the people.
Remember who programmed you to believe who the good guys and evil guys are. Do these programmers have a track record for honesty/accuracy? If not, why trust them now?
Even sincere opiners can make very inaccurate guesses about what data points mean.
Some opiners make clear eyed and accurate guesses about some things while have blind spots when assessing/guessing about other topics.
Future proves past ie future events prove how accurate guesses were. Some live, learn and adjust. Some dont.
The western press likes to boast that Lithuania does not need Russian electricity or gas. They do have a big problem though as it would be very difficult to do without Russian oil because the oil refinery in Lithuania’s Mažeikiai, the only oil refinery in the Baltic states, is adapted to Russian oil specifically. This same problem applies to refineries in Germany, Poland and in other western European countries. You can’t just switch one type of oil for another as major changes have to be made to the refinery to try and adapt to different blends. So far, they have all been using a Urals blend and all of the refineries there are specifically adapted to that blend and not to others. If or when Putin stops the oil headed to Europe, those countries will be totally screwed by the loss of refined products like diesel, gasoline, and other such distillates. And all the brave talk about getting oil from multiple other sources is just blowing smoke even if there were sufficient other sources.
Lithuania is INSANE! What do they get by going into a war that doesn’t involve them?
…untold $ and a false sense of security?
( …with the current wef miss leadership )
We don’t have a really good track record. You’d think the Lithuanians would have figured that out by now!
They have an uneasy relationship with Poland, but between the two a partition of Ukraine which results in a country reaching from the Baltic Sea to the Black Sea.
They are next.
Looks like Lithuania is asking for it, too! You’d think that laying low until the shooting stops would be a good idea. No?
Poland and Lithuania may be dreaming of reviving their medieval empire. But Russia has grown enormously in the past 400 years, and they do not seem to take that into account.
oh fer god`s ake……what utter horseshit…do yourself a favor and look up nato expansion since the fall of the soviet union…..
And they would be deserving it too.
Play stupid games…
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NATO wants a NATO country attacked stat…so they can attack back openly and get it on….or so it seems.
Yes, you hit the nail on the head. Each refinery is set up for a specific type of oil. Can’t easily change from week to week.
It takes much more then a week to retool a refinery for other blends, at a minimum at least 3 months if switching from light to heavy. Also the time needed to actually process the blends depends heavily on the API of the crude and whether or not contaminants like sulphur needs needs to be removed.
This will cost in the millions at a minimum and probably make the product that much more expensive to produce with the already high gas prices.
Plus it’s far cheaper to pipe it in from Russia than to bring it in by boat.
The wild card in all this is Putin’s health. My operating theory is that Putin’s serious–and potentially terminal–health ailments, is the reason Western countries are risking a nuclear war.
NATO countries see the potential for regime change and possibly, the opportunity to plunder and then throttle Russia’s natural resources–especially oil and gas.
Source of your “operating theory” on the health of the Russian leader?
Depending on the Search engineer you use, just type, “Putin’s terminal illness”.
You’ll get all the “sources” you desire. But here is one:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/17793192/vladimir-putin-cancer/
Yes, lots of “sources “. How many with even a hint of reliability? The UK Sun as a source? Wondering what our UK poster think.
As a source? A sign of madness.
The Sun? A tabloid? Gotta source from his physician? Did the Sun confirm with his physician?
Or are you content going through a media filter who has no direct line with his physician? I thought people on this board were intelligent. Sheesh.
Willie, type the following in the search engine of your choice; “Putin’s terminal illness”
Sometimes where there is smoke, there is fire.
Remember the same “sources” ie paid psyop agents were constantly yammering about President Trumps health which segued into scripted chatter about his 25A removal.
Have these “sources” expressed similar concern about Biden’s health despite overwhelming primary sourced reasons to do so? Hmmm.
Deceivers don’t reflect reality, they seek to create it or to at least keep gullibles in the dark where things die unnoticed deaths.
Cozette, give my regards to the lads at Langley my best. Hope the boys (and girls) at the “Company” are doing well.
Just look at his bloated face
I take the stories about his health with a big grain of salt.
Same as when the media questioned President Trump physical and mental health.
And then they turn a blind eye to Bidens obvious mental health….
The media has a bad habit of lying.
Suit yourself. I’ve read enough stories from enough sources to believe that Putin is in ill health. Now, we can all debate just how “ill” his health is, but I’ve seen Parkinson in relatives and this video is a exhibit A.
I have relatives with Parkinson’s. Both hands shake and it is a subtle shake that cannot be controlled when the hand is extended. His right hand does not shake when extended out to shake hands and his left hand hanging down doesn’t shake at all. This is more State Department propaganda.
Whatever…..
Indeed. Indulging in idle gossip and speculative guesses about Putin’s health is shire hobbit silly during our real Lord of the Rings war to survive.
Those who engage in and encourage these Fatal Distractions do evoke a meh “Whatever” response followed by prayers for their awakening.
What!?!? He’s snapping his fingers and making a gesture known to him and the other guy. He ain’t got Pksn’s. An’ even if he does, I hope he lasts long enough to teach these Communists in D.C. a lesson.
Maybe he is ill and maybe it is more lies from Globohomo. Everyone should understand though that with regard to Russia, Putin is the moderate guy. Any replacement for him is likely to be more hawkish and more likely to proceed to a NATO/Russia military confrontation.
Do you think that Russia doesn’t have a high ranking general to replace Putin.
I think the line of generals and oligarchs wishing to replace Putin is quite long.
And I also think the CIA and other entities are in conversations with those who have ambitions.
Biden’s advisors would be very happy if Putin and the current Russian Federation were replaced by the Bolsheviks and the Old Soviet Union! Maybe that’s their goal?
If you’ve been reading CTH for any length of time. then you would know that, as Sundance has meticulously documented, the WEF and EU and US globalists would LOVE to replace Putin with a more agreeable autocrat more interested in personal enrichment, and less interested in revanchist fancies of Tsarist (or Soviet) glory.
“personal enrichment” is something like “follow the money”
How does that change the fundamental reality of fossil fuel versus play-pretend green?
Easy, if the globalists can control (throttle / manipulate) Russian fossil fuel stocks, then they can jack up global fossil fuel prices and enforce a global green new deal, i.e. a digital currency supported by identification with individuals of each country. (666)
Sundance has written about this. Maybe someone can repost the link.
You added the fantasy subtext. Sundance has outlined the NATO encroachment versus Soviet then Russian defense pas de deux.
Bingo. Perhaps Maxi-C still has National Review/Neocon mind blinders on.
Or perhaps the Kremlin is paying well for online commenters–or is it your mates at Langley?
Bingo.
Reading an opiner =/= knowing anything more than that persons opinions.
“Revanchist fancies” reveals blind spots that hinder seeing reality accurately. National Review residue?
The Obama administration is about 75 percent Bolsheviks. A few of them are actual descendants of the original Bolsheviks. The remaining 25 percent are just typical leftists loons of one sort or another.
Stalin liquidated most of the original cast. Since then they have wanted to destroy Russia and subdue it again. Recently when Putin stopped the banksters (more Bolsheviks) from taking over Russia. That really got them boiling. How dare Russia not be exploited by our banksters.
Exactly. We want their oil as well…plus Putin stopped the Russian children being “adopted ” pipeline years back . Lots of reasons for the West to hate him.
Yes. I had forgotten that Putin put a stop to some questionable adoptions some time ago.
Well then….the whole Russian interference in our elections ploy needs to be rescinded immediately!
We want that Russian oil.
Replace Putin, the moderate guy, with guys who will help them trigger a world war. Possible.
They tried to do the same with Trump.
The “Sum of All Fears” playbook.
I guess or imagine =/= “I think” despite efforts to turn them into synonymns.
“NATO countries see the potential for regime change …”
NATO troublemakers might want to consider that they’re not assured of what they’ll get as Putin’s replacement
That old “the devil you know” thingy …
True, but I’d imagine that various Western intelligence agencies and such have sought out potential successors to “vet” them for suitability.
To wit: they’re interviewing for a Russian Zelensky.
yeah, I don’t doubt that, Maximus
“I dont doubt”.
User profile pic checks out. 😘
When a thread gets hijacked and dissenters like Maximus get swarmed, I get suspicious.
It’s too easy for one or a pair of individuals to cut off everybody deviating from a party line. With personal attacks or cheap-shot sarcasm. Others tend to chime in or just scroll on by.
I’m wary when any and all supporting sources are straight out of Russian propaganda vehicles, like Southfront and the Duran.
Mind you, there’s good stuff in both of those outlets and others like them, but it’s worth noting they’re every bit as biased as their counterparts on our side.
Putin isn’t PTrump. We don’t know anything about their relationship. PT is very careful, they’re all “his friends”. Reflexive defense of Putin because we hate Biden is shallow thinking.
After reading your comment, I was puzzled at the visceral resistance to ANY possibility that V. Putin could be in ill health. It was weird. Glad someone saw it and recognized it as well.
Perhaps they were, but that strategy fell apart the day that Ukrainians videoed themselves torturing Russian PoWs.
A howl of anger from the Russian soul vented when that video made primetime TV. After that moment, Putin’s plans changed, his people were now demanding REVENGE. But not just on the perpetrators but on those who put them up to it, our Governments (I’m English). One of his latest comments was that he doesn’t expect to be finished in Ukraine until sometime in 2023.
It is easy to forget that the total US deaths in WW2 were roughly equal to Russian deaths at the Battle of Stalingrad on its own. The Russian population holds its military dear.
Then let’s hope the person is not an oligarch! That enticement, at this point, has limited attraction. But if we’re talking pallets of billions delivered in the dead of night – well there’s precedent for that! Light bulb goes off – a test run!
Russia =/= Iran.
The Iran pallet drop was tied to Ukraine/Vatican/NWO $$$$ rat lines.
N is a dog whistle to those who understand that the N doesn’t just stand for New.
Sum of All Fears. Nessum Dorma. President Trump and……
Kudos for not using the verb “think” but instead using the verb “imagine” to describe a digital guess session.
See my post above yours, Nimrodman!
roger that, Joe
M-C week ago VVP had long speech and answered for over 3 hrs questions in the St. Petersburg Economical Forum..do not believe MSM propaganda…
I do NOT believe MSM propaganda–ever. But I’ve read and seen enough to believe there IS something to the rumors of Putin’s health. He IS 69 years old, you know. Sometimes, propaganda contains the truth because propaganda is ultimately about persuasion–whether its true or not depends on the goal of the message.
But what amazes me is the tenacity with which people on this page blithely dismiss and deny that Putin could be in ill health. It’s almost like they’re working for the Kremlin.
Geez….
Agree, Maximus.
There’s something odd about it…
Of course, the article was purposeful.
Because the CIA-backed Ukros know to position strategic resources near the civilian centers, the purpose is to seduce the RF into attacking Kiev somewhere, anywhere, so that the Ukrainian/Nazi/NATO Pr firm can present the attack as an attack on civilians.
They are trying to engineer this in Kharkov. The Ukronazis have transferred young patients from around the region into the hospital where the Azovs are operating from. They have mined the hospital so that if the RF attacks the UKR artillery, the Azovs can trigger the mines, kills civilians, and get the gullible western press to publicize the death of civilians.
Even earlier, this was the strategy at Azovstal. During the siege, there were plenty of reports that the RF was going to bomb the tunnels, flood the tunnels, and all sorts of provocative acts. They tried to get the RF to attack with phony stories about how the RF was losing, couldn’t take the Azovstal, the RF was finished. But the RF just ignored all that and waited until the besieged couldn’t take it anymore. Then the RF made them do the perp walk (remember the western press, telling us it was an ‘evacuation’?) and take their shirts off, to reveal the Nazi tattoos (some of Hitler quotes, or his signature) before they were marched into the end of their lives.
Seems to me they wouldn’t need an article in the Times to inform them of US involvement. They probably already know.
Gaslighting appears to be a western media tradition. The Palestinians have this down to a science, the Azovs may have taken their playbook.
Also thanks to Sundance and everyone here. All the Treepers, who have opened my eyes with all the mocking bird media etc.
“Once you see the mariotte strings, you can’t unseen them. “
Hence why the shills and trolls have been deployed here whenever a Ukraine article is published.
I trust the media so little, that I do not believe anything they tell me about Russia and Ukraine. In fact, I trust them so little that I find myself rooting for Russia sometimes. That really shows what the media has done to their reputation.
The opposite is the truth.
Ditto. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. At least V. Putin is sane… our country is being run by theocrats.
Absolutely correct. NOTHING they say is to be believed. At any time. For any reason. About anything.
MSM are pathological liars, just like the government they work for.
I think Putin has known for a while about US people in Kyiv (and elsewhere) command and control centers as he has said several times that upon certain provocation he would attack command and control centers not previously targeted.
So this article is nothing Putin did not already know. In fact he has missiles already locked onto these targets. All he needs to do is push the buttons.
Putin knows this is how the US and UK always operate – sneaking around and being directly involved in all their conflicts, all while they think nobody can see them. But this is Russia and they have fully seen them for a long while. They have better satelites, military equipment and intelligence than the US or UK.
US/NATO direct control from within Ukraine was already factored into the planning of this operation.
The Russia aren’t amateurs in the fields of war and espionage, they most likely know who is in the country and where they operate from just as they knew about the biolabs and who ran them.
This is a propaganda bait article but also part of the disinfo war being waged by the western press under gov’t direction.
Nothing can be trusted coming from the western MSM.
This video is said to be of English speaking commandos hit by Russian fire:
https://warnews247.gr/amerikanoi-navy-seal-peftoun-se-enedra-rosikon-dynameon-prospathoun-na-diafygoun-stin-oukrania-prosochi-sklires-eikones/
If the well-trained commandos are running away, from what I learn to be Putin’s second best soldiers, then what about the common NATO soldiers?
This article gives more context to the news that Russia lobbed several missiles into Kiev today.
To show they can…I reckon
The Brandon Administration is beyond stupid. They are provoking WWIII. Who suffers? All the people of the world. Never forget who started this: Biden. Worst president in American history – bar none.
Maybe it’s because White Orthodox Christian Russians and White Orthodox Christian Ukrainians killing each other is exactly what Biden Officials want?
Exacto!
if only we could pin this on a foolish addled old man…unfortunately this country is being run by a much more calculating,malevolent cabal(and they`re being enthusiastically assisted by their money-chasing establishment republican brethren)…….
Cardinal Vigano lays it all out for those who enjoy a rigorously intellectual and scholarly assessment of world events that’s rooted in his own personal experience with the worlds power players, including the current NWO installed illegitimate “pope”.
Fwiw he’s part of Gandalf Trumps Alliance.
It does boggle the mind. Do these warmongers think anyone would actually win a nuclear war?
The Insurrectionusts who captured and currently control DC want to drastically reduce the number of humans aka useless eaters and to make the remnants dependent and compliant.
They ARE stupid because they are evil and evil is stupid. However, their decisions are intentional. They serve humanity despising psychopaths.
Why do you think Russia said they would start to attack command centers in Ukraine some weeks ago? They knew what was going on from the very beginning. And now, no one can deny to true nefarious purposes of NATO in that country. And these people are paying the price.
By the way, the Kiev encirclement early in the war was one of the smartest military decisions out there. It’s pretty clear that the ambush of Kiev initially was feint, in order to get Ukrainian troops bogged down defending the capital while taking their attention away from the Donbass region.
BS
“BS”.
So pithy. So persuasive.
Engaged in mirror gazing? If so, descriptively apt.
Fortunately, change is possible until there are no more presents offered. Tick tock.
you nail it !!!!!
Agreed, KK, sejmon.
I would target and freeze the assets and forces of a tertiary objective to give some reasonable assurance of the resistance and force I might encounter at my primary objective, if only to gain strategic advantage going forward, thus disrupting the enemies ability to attack with a pre-planned strike.
Exactly. The stated goal of the SMO was to denazify Ukraine. And that meant grinding the Azov Battalion, Right Sector and other nazi constituents of the Ukr army into oblivion. Those forces were in the Donbass region.
The Kiev gambit got all the attention. It was a matter of logistics (which wins wars), shaped the battlefield, and prevent resupply to the targeted groups. It was effective.
Perhaps the agency and state are trying to Extortion 17 the “secret site” and therefore create WW3 in hopes of keeping this criminal administration and agencies in power.
Good luck getting American workers to fight in this one. I can hear the GFYS all the way over here
So my guess is US has confirmed that Russia knows exact details of this defenseless operation despite the best Opsec and as one reaction has begun laying public groundwork for future “heroes” narrative.
Once it goes up in drone smoke, we will be informed by girlfriends and parents that these operators were good guys who went wherever freedom called. Margaret Brennan will exude empathy.
Good: Putin fighting for the freedom of eastern Ukrainians subjected to genocide by Globalist stormtroopers.
Bad: Zelensky using Nazis to subjugate and exterminate Ukrainians in the east.
Putin is fighting for the enslavement of Ukraine, then all of Europe.
Well. that’s just stupid.
Ukraine, Europe, Australia and the US are already enslaved by totalitarian governments. after the covid revolution.
😂😂😂😂😂
I am ashamed of all of our government’s evil provocations and other nefarious schemes around the world – including here of course. But Putin has made very measured and wise moves thus far against these anti-American actors no matter what they have done regarding Ukraine. If only our country conducted ourselves in such a manner
Putin is the aspiring Hitler of our age.
Putin is looking out for Russia. MRGA
Make Russia great again for those as challenged as I am.
Everybody is a Hitler these days. A trite response.
Every leader who challenges the NWO Nazis is called a Hitler.
The NWO Nazis have trained their gullibles to automatically react emotionally to cue words like Hitler.
Triggering an emotional response prevents logical analysis, silences question askers and legitimizes brown shirt/SS violence against those who won’t be silenced.
In double speak english, anyone the NWO calls a Hitler is an anti NWO leader ie the opposite of a Hitler.
Godwin says you lose!
😂😂😂😂😂
Has a Colbert staffer entered the chat?
Godwin’s law. (While often invoked to disparage true anologies/comparisons, here it literally applies.)
Putin doesn’t have to invade the EU or NATO countries. The invasion actually started 30 days ago in will continue in earnest in about 90-120 days from the south with millions of sub-saharan africans and ME’s that are starving flooding into the EU. Do you think Turkey, which is itching for a fight with the Kurd’s, is going to stop the flood? Edrogan has already cut a deal with Putin. EU can’t invade Russia because of fuel shortages. Do you know what it takes to fuel and army from Vienna to Moscow? ask Napoleon. Putin just sits back and grinds them in the meat grinder. Biden has to push it before the elections, Putin doesn’t. Lithuania gets 100% of it NG from Russia. So who is going to supply it? The US, so expect NG to got to $20 and them Bribem is a gonner. No need to wait for November.
Biden’s going to build a NG pipeline from New York to Lithuania so they don’t freeze this winter!
NY Gov has already outlawed all new natgas pipelines 🙂
Yeah, and I’ve seen that reported as why the US cannot get LNG exports out to Europe or even regular piped natural gas to to Boston and New York. But the LNG terminals can (or could) somehow receive Russian LNG to keep New York and Boston from freezing in the winter.
Resisting Russian aggression is absolutely the RIGHT thing to do. Hopefully, the cost to Russia in blood and treasure will compel Putin to abandon his illegal war of conquest. If not, perhaps he will be overthrown by factions unwilling to bear the burden of his military adventures. By the grace if God, Putin might DIE of the cancer he’s been fighting for some time. Any of these outcomes is to be fervently hoped for.
That pretty well sums up all the Biden Reich’s foreign policy propaganda. Of course, then there is the Biden Reich’s domestic policy propaganda which would take a whole lot more to cover.
It’s not propaganda if it’s true. If my comment genuinely reflects the Biden policy, then it goes to show that even a blind squirrel gets a nut once in a while.
“Its not propaganda if its true”.
Relevance?
It is propaganda and it is untrue.
You are a fail.
you really should see doc…
I don’t think a doc has the cure.
Yep. History with regard to Russia/Ukraine started on 02/24/2022. There was no provocation of Russia. Poor little Ukraine just trying to mind it’s own business when bad old Putin invaded and started killing all of the children. We din do nuffin! The horror!!
Now it is not even safe for Zelensky and Hunter Biden to make their planned porn movie. I guess they will have to wait until they are both in New York.
“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered.
And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
George Orwell, 1984
You are right. The PTB got that part down.
Those who read Trumps back channel on the Chan’s started being warned in early 2018 to archive all research off line because the Big Brother purge attempt was coming; a purge that would include President Trump.
Many heeded these warnings. Their research is saved. They invested in books that can’t be altered, disappeared or destroyed.
Still looking for the absolutely right rationale in your anyone’s but my blood post!?????????
Reality is that thing that remains no matter what you think. The reality is the Russians have already won the broader economic war. So they can stop when the Donbass is taken and win the whole enchilada without any more military action if they choose.
The West, for some reason, committed economic suicide at the start of the conflict. The question is will they doom us all in a military conflict which they will not win.
Offering you a digital cracker, dear parrot, since your Corporate Media trainers wont.
Your willingness and ability to parrot your trainers squawking points is entertaining.
Russian aggression? Are you aware that Ukraine had been shelling the Donbas region for 8 years, killing ethnic Russian civilians, with more than 14,000 deaths? Are you aware that Ukraine had 100,000 troops on the border of the Donbas in February and started shelling ethnic Russian civilians again on February 16, increasing to over 2000 shells a day on February 20-21? This is the type of actions of an army planning to invade the Donbas which had declared their two states independent from the corrupt government of Ukraine in 2014, after the US overthrew the elected leader. The Ukrainian shelling was another of many violations of the Minsk Agreements.
Are you aware that Zelensky on February 19 at Munich declared that Ukraine would develop nuclear weapons? Are you aware that Ukraine had tons of plutonium and more tons of enriched uranium, enough for several nuclear weapons?
I consider what the government of Russia did was protect themselves and protect ethnic Russian people from the repeated aggression of Ukraine and its US instigators.
There seem to be a lot of Russian trolls on tonight.
Im seeing a lot of pragmatic, regulars letting it be known that the Western MIC and neocons are not appreciated.
Edit: “illegal war of conquest”, where do you get this stuff?
You are starting to sound more like a puppet, and less like a treeper.
Heads up.
Because such activity has conquest of territory as a goal. Don’t know if you or offcourse are more juvenile. You are in luck, Offcourse just won the prize. V
I see it as a liberation of Russian speaking people.
And push back against continuous NATO encroachment, politically
Its also a small geographical buffer between a belligerent NATO
and RF.
Have your say, Wine person.
Nobodys stopping you.
I may seem juvenile to you,
but you seem like an empire apologist
to me.
The goal is “conquest of territory”.
Speaking pejoratively about the allied forces invading Europe during WW2?
Spelling, grammar and word omission errors suggests too much of the product that inspired the user name has been imbibed.
Perhaps enjoy being impaired by doing something that doesn’t require an on line brain rather than pretending the brain is still on line.
They’everywhere!
In our closets and under our beds and sending nanobots into our heads!
They are today’s tag team from the government education bureau.
OMG another attack of borscht bots sent by the forces of eViL.
That dastardly Orange Man and his bff, Vlad Man strike again!!!!
Exactly
As well as pajama boy warmongers.
You would know.
Everyone who disagrees with Media thots are Russian bots.
Thanks for bringing back memories of 2016, dear parrot.
They gotta provoke Putin to strike the US homeland so Biden can declare martial law and cancel the midterms. They know they are fu&ked if they don’t. Hopefully Putin is playing chess and not checkers and will realize that not doing anything will hurt them worse
You’re on the right track. It’s called provocation. Both of the last two world wars were started this way. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and started World War II. After some raw materials were cut off by the United States. Now think about the supplies cut off by NATO. How about the Assassination that started World War I. So if I were Zelenskyy or Biden, I would leave office. Germany invades Poland after supplying themselves with a provocation that started World War II.
And yes, one of these options will likely occur before midterms. Maybe, one of the western Intel agencies will be more creative this time.
Russians don’t play checkers. However, the Russian peoples skill at chess is legendary.
As an aside, Trumps skill at chess, as well as adapting the Art of War to business and politics is also legendary.
Of course, Never Trumpers, Neocons and/or Globalists refuse to acknowledge reality.
They react to reality like movie vampires react to crosses and sunlight.
The CIA and the Military Industrial Complex got US into a land war with Russia that was already lost. I remember Vietnam, do you? Not to mention Irak, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria and Somalia. Our transgendered Pentagon will not be able to dislodge Russia from their own lands. All the neocons will achieve is the loss of Odessa, where most of them came from. Colonel Vindman, Alexandra Chalupa, Victoria Nuland-Kagan are all from there. I suspect our Marxists did the Coup against Trump just to start this war on Russia. Ukraine is the most corrupt country, but wisely hired Hunter Biden, and even had PDJT impeached with a single phone call from Zelenskyy.
ukraine was the eastern european arm of the dnc in the trump impeachemt scam….neck deep in the bog…
Wait a minute! I was led to understand that this was all about Putin’s recidivist dreams for former Soviet/Russian domains. All along it has been US neocons dreams for same?
Hillary was supposed to win!
Lots of interesting Treeper comments in this thread.
I wonder where everyone did their research to get the facts being claimed. Perhaps from the US media, US Gubmint, the Ukranians, the Russians or some mysterious website on the internet?
Quoting sources may give validity to statements – imho.
“Treeper comments”.
Perhaps clarify the definition of ” Treeper” that’s being used.
Treeper == everyone posting on this site or Treeper =/= everyone posting on this site.
The psywar is real. Psyops are real. Meatbot and bot teams are now common place. Every internet community has them.
User names, narratives and attacks are tailored to each communities perceived weaknesses.
Treeper = one of “us” and not one of “them”
That’s why this strikes me as odd.
We’re getting a lot of “them-ing” here.
For and against foreign govts, backed up with “facts” and “evidence” from foreign sources, written for Americans who reject American trash media.
Such personal heat – I don’t know, it’s odd.
Perhaps we need a Treehouse ID Card – similar to a National Voter ID card!
The sources are from the Southfront, Duran, Gonzalo Lira camp. Profoundly anti-American, they’re smart enough to play to disaffected American conservatives.
Then one or two highly committed individuals dominate the conversation on a site that’s usually more balanced.
I hope Putin crucifies them! Do unto others as you would be done by
Every move being made by the allied NATO countries is pushing for ww3.
The large shipping company I work for, 31 years . Is renting 747’s to the government to move stuff to Poland . If ww3 doesn’t happen , I’ll be shocked .
With a media bought and paid for , how will people ever know the truth if they’re not seeking it like us .
Interesting. But there ain’t no fuel to move NATO armies. Maybe they’re moving in more shitty missile systems.
Back to the topic…
The ‘admission’ by the CIA/DoD through the New York Times my simply be to soften the news that Russia is capturing and/or killing US citizens who are not random volunteers, but rather are on official US Government missions.
We will see whether the russians announce more captured US Agents in the next week ore two.
More behind-the- 8ball silliness – biden will block russian gold to keep the russians from making money? An essence of gold is that it is value-dense and fungible. Did it come from California a century+ ago, or russia or braazil or ___. The US will mark each Au atom? If china and India and ____ and ___buy russian gold , purify and mix and melt it into bars or jewelery or coins stamped with “made in India or ___”, the CIA will block the sale?
This administration has lied so much continuously about everything . Especially about Ukraine and any economic blunder they cheer as a victory .
Come on man they even cheated and lied to win the election so global war and pestilence is just another day at the office for these parasites in DC !
That is as long as it’s just the great unwashed doing the dying
Safe and effective.
I hope they annihilate Ukraine. The worst fake CIA country ever. FJB
How interesting that the G7 summit Biden is attending is being held in the Bavarian Alps.
Seems another famous leader held court in the Bavarian Alps at the Eagle’s Nest, Berchtesgaden, Adolph Hitler.
Truth trumps fiction again.
JoeBama could actually be nihilistic enough to provoke a serious attack from Russia in order to have an excuse to blow up Russia’s oil and gas pipelines to Europe. What the racist, communist, Islamofascist Obama wants to destroy is everything Christian and white.
Bottling up Russia’s fossil fuels would wreck Europe and Russia in particular while re-doubling world energy prices, and the impacts can be cheered under the guise of making a “beautiful transition” to non-existent “green energy.”
Hot war with Russia will give the excuse the Democrats need for another round of mail-in voting to secure another stolen election, and their core voters will always side with whatever narrative supports the power of “their side.”
Eventually Democrat voters might realize that it doesn’t really make sense to embrace as “their side” a bunch of communists who are trying to suicide them, but by then it will be a done deal.
Pravoslavophobia
It is a very dangerous time in the world as they push Putin to use his nuclear weapons.
This must not be allowed to continue. Where are our clear thinkers? How could any of our warriors do the bidding of this criminal administration?
Mark my words, this is all about cancelling the ’22 mid terms. They know they’re going to prison if they lose. Nothing is beyond the pale.
And this explains the apartment in Kiev that received a special visitor over the weekend. Right after this was published. Coincidence?
https://sonar21.com/understanding-the-ny-times-article-on-the-cia-in-ukraine/
Of course the Russians didn’t need the NYTimes to tell them the CIA is operating inside Ukraine. The question is, why did the CIA want the world to know they are in there by purposefully giving this information to their official media stenographer? In some ways in the eyes of the world, they think this will give Putin more justification to directly attack America? Why would the CIA want that?
I agree with Sundance that whatever damage is being done by our internal enemies within our country to weaken America, it is a convenient subterfuge for the perpetrators to try to blame this on “Putin’s War in Ukraine”. In addition to torpedoing our energy sector, creating runaway inflation, economic recession, and crippling our supply chains, transportation systems, and healthcare industry with the phony “public safety” vaccine mandates & resulting firings and staffing shortages, what more is the OBiden Regime planning that will weaken our country? Every American should be concerned about this latest development. The rogue CIA could pull off almost anything now that all we have in law enforcement is a Dirty Cop DOJ that is nothing more than an arm of the Democrat Crime Syndicate. And they have far easier access to methods to destroy our country than Vladimir Putin does.
Uh…
…protecting 30+ Bioweapons labs
I mean level IV bioweapon decommissioning labs
WWIII starts in Ukraine, Civil War in USA, all thanks to Biden and the Democrats.