In the second segment of the interview with Maria Bartiromo, Devin Nunes and Kash Patel discuss the trial of Michael Sussmann which begins tomorrow. {Direct Rumble Link}
Ultimately the issue in the Michael Sussmann trial is quite simple:
Did the DOJ and FBI know the material Michael Sussmann was giving them came from the Hillary Clinton campaign?
We all know the answer to that question, of course they did. However, there has been –and continues to be– a game of grand pretense from the DOJ/FBI group where they pretend not to have known.
Two groups: the “insider group” (DOJ/FBI) and the “outsider group” (Perkins Coie, Fusion GPS, Clinton campaign, Sussmann, Elias, Mook, etc).
Claiming the DOJ and FBI were duped, is the government firewall that protects the inside group. However, this claim is now against the interest of Michael Sussmann who has been accused of false representation and lying to the FBI about the provenance of the information he provided.
In her capacity as the DOJ lawyer assigned to the office of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page played a role in evaluating the provenance of the concocted Trump-Russia information given to McCabe via FBI Chief Legal Counsel James Baker (who received it from Sussmann).
Lisa Page (above left) is legally represented by Amy Jeffries (above right), who is the wife of the trial judge (Michael Cooper) in the Sussmann case. So, think about it…
…The FBI lawyer (Lisa Page) in charge of vetting the provenance of the fraudulent material from Clinton (via Sussmann), retains legal services from the wife of the Judge now determining whether the provenance was accurately disclosed by Sussmann.
You can’t make this stuff up.
Everyone knows the FBI was aware the Sussmann material (Trump-Russia fabrications) came from Clinton’s campaign.
Lisa Page knew the material she reviewed came from Hillary Clinton. However, everyone in the DOJ and FBI has to pretend they didn’t know, or else they’re in deep shit.
So, this grand pretense is taking place, where everyone inside govt (DOJ/FBI) is pretending not to know the Sussmann stuff came from Hillary Clinton, and everyone outside government (Fusion, Clinton, Perkins Coie, Sussmann, Elias et al) is saying the govt (DOJ/FBI) did know the provenance, or else the outside team would be in big shit for lying or perpetrating fraud.
Enter Special Prosecutor John Durham amid this game of great pretense. That’s really what the Michael Sussmann trial boils down to.
INSIDERS – DOJ/FBI saying they didn’t know (or else trouble).
OUTSIDERS – Sussman saying the DOJ/FBI did know (or else trouble).
The “didn’t know” -vs- “did know” is the firewall between the INSIDERS and the OUTSIDERS. Put another way, the DOJ/FBI were duped -vs- the DOJ/FBI were complicit.
As long as INSIDERS can claim they were duped, they are safe. However, if the OUTSIDERS prove the INSIDERS were not duped, then the spotlight shifts.
If Sussmann wins, it means the DOJ/FBI lose. If Sussmann loses, it means the DOJ/FBI firewall remains intact.
Same thing, another way: If Durham wins, it means the INSIDERS are safe. If Durham loses, it means the INSIDERS are exposed.
That’s why the majority of the previous media participants are not writing about the trial. For them, the dynamics are tenuous. They want Sussmann to win, but the media don’t want their INSIDERS exposed. If the insiders are exposed it means the DOJ and FBI knew the information came from Hillary Clinton, AND they pushed that false Trump-Russia information into the media via leaks.
Then the story circles around to the media claiming they were duped by the DOJ and FBI feeding them false information – versus the media admitting they knew the information was false, yet they used the method of reception from the DOJ/FBI to enhance the credibility of claims they knew were fraudulent.
It’s all FUBAR. A through the looking glass game of grand pretense. A public pantomime of silliness and abject nuttery.
Everyone involved, both inside and outside government, are still pretending not to know things.
The trial is ridiculous theater, created to give the illusion of legitimacy to a series of events and investigations that is designed around this game of pretending.
One example of the nuttery. Judge Christopher Cooper is the trial judge. If Michael Sussmann is NOT Guilty, it means the FBI did know he was representing Hillary Clinton when he passed the information along. That means the DOJ/FBI insiders are exposed.
If the DOJ/FBI insiders are exposed, Lisa Page could need Judge Cooper’s wife again.
Don’t expect anything of significance. Expect Barr has helped to undermine. Rather watch Depp v Heard.
It’s like a time warp for me. I used to read this site every day. I was a big believer in the idea that eventually the fraud around Trump-Russia would be exposed, but as the same time I was a skeptic around the Q narrative.
The Q-tards took over Free Republic, and as a result after 20 years on the site I left, the level of personal attack on anyone questioning the Q-tard narrative was too vicious to deal with. In arguing with the Q-tards my main point was “look, it doesn’t take all the hidden stuff you claim to somehow know. The process we can see is working, read the Conservative Treehouse, for instance.
At some point (say summer of 2020, when it because obvious Barr’s DOJ wasn’t going to expose all this before the election) it became obvious to me that nothing much was going to come of it. I kept an interest in Durham, and even some hope for good things, but realized it would all be too little too late, which it is.
So, I stopped coming around here. Too many hours burnt understanding every aspect of the conspiracy. To what purpose? We are still living under Biden. They got away with it. They pulled off the coup (2000 Mules).
Western Rifle Shooters Association has the more compelling narrative now. “You aren’t going to vote your way out of this”.
Indeed.
Excellent post. I feel the same deflation as before. I remember all the Q people BS “Just wait! Utah US ATTY Johnny “Utah” Huber, Session’s most-trusted and untouchable top.man. is running ultra-deep sooper-dooper investigation and has 20,000 sealed indictments…TRUST THE PLANNNNNN”.
Perhaps it would be better those TCH readers in the Washington DC area put together some eye-catching posters and banners and parade and demonstrate outside of the DOJ building (with your cellphones left at home) and publicize the obvious conflict of interest of the Judge and his Lisa Page protector wifeypoo. At least they might get on the news.
Or have SOMEBODY finally interview the jilted spouses of Strzok and Page like journalists do WITH EVERY OTHER JILTED SPOUSE OF IMPORTANT PERP or POLITICIAN (i.e. Petraeus’s wife…).
Has any journalist ever secretly videotaped Christine Blasey-Ford in public talking with people to see if she really acts like a clueless waify emotional wreck with smeared eyeglasses speaking with a little girl’s regressive voice??? It’s like she got it to do her “job” then left quickly like a dang SEAL.
C’Mon, Man!
If the midterms are stolen, which I think is possible, I’m done.
If the RNC does win the midterms and takes over. What changes? They are as pro war/Ukraine as any of them. Then we ‘elect’ another DNC prez and when things truly implode. The RNC will get the blame. Trump and MAGA will be dead…Literally
Yawn!!
This is the best analysis of the true dynamics of this trial and the antics underlying it.
Your juxtaposition of inside and outside parties and reality and alternate realities are spot on.
Let the games begin.
So the obvious solution to the deep state’s conundrum is that Sussman will offer to clintoncide himself.
I don’t know how it works, but it would be ludicrous, especially after the last five years, to think that Durham has not had ‘discussions’ with top level DOJ mouthpieces relaying from on high, the do’s and don’t, the can’s and cannot’s, the ‘this far but no further’. Whether he’s intimidated, whether he has stuff on many top politicians, media and bureaucrats (including maybe some that come with the warnings) that is his ace in the hole to allow him to go in his predetermined direction, say, exposing and getting indictments on Sussmann, Jolle, Elias, et al, so history can write that he was a tuff nut, did his job (to a point and leaving the corruption in place).
I’m not real sure what this exercise is all about. The people involved are mostly tainted, we know. The heros are supposedly NOT tainted and we have all been disappointed with our supposed heros. (Barr to name ONE) And who appointed Durham? I am thinkin it was Barr. Sundance once stated that Barr was the bondo (getting Durham involved with this oh so very serious investigation) and Durham was the paint. Tri-up a couple of lawyers, send them to a fancy re-hab (finger slaps) for a month, and shake a fist at Hillary to not do that again. That appears to be what is happening. I am not looking for any heads to roll, least of all Clintons or fancy lawyers or any FBI & DOJ. We need the COS.
The most important thing is that federal trials are not televised.
At least if it were, some of the public would learn a great deal about Russia, Russia and the game the Dems and the corrupt institutions played in trying to block a representative of the people, the President of the United States, from being successful at anything.
One juror gave money to Dems in 2016 and another juror said he/she can’t stand Trump but “can be fair.” They were seated.
I don’t think ANY trials involving the government should ever take place in dC.
The judge is a political activist appointed by Obama. The jury is mostly partisan Democrats who don’t like Trump.
It’s a joke.