Obviously, the office of White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain is urgently contacting pollsters to measure how the base of the party would feel if the administration did not challenge the federal court ruling that overturned the federal mask mandate for transportation.
The far-left is on its heels after a Tampa judge overturned the CDC’s legal framework for the mask mandate rule, and the TSA changed their guidance. Most of the Biden support base, the Covidians, define themselves through the virtue signaling of wearing a mask. However, all of the airlines quickly abandoned rules for masks during travel, and the overwhelming majority of Americans cheered.
Now, the Biden DOJ finds themselves in a hot political place. Biden is stuck between the mentally and emotionally unstable Covidians (10%) and the normal Americans (90%). If the DOJ doesn’t challenge the ruling, the Covidians will be even more mad. [Psaki Transcript Here]
(WASHINGTON DC) – […] White House press secretary Jen Psaki, speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One en route to New Hampshire, said the Justice Department was still reviewing the ruling and noted that these reviews typically take a few days. She pointed out that the CDC had said previously it needed 15 days to evaluate public health data related to the mask mandate.
“Public health decisions shouldn’t be made by the courts. They should be made by public health experts,” Ms. Psaki said.
Republicans and some Democrats praised Monday’s ruling by the judge, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump, a Republican. “It’s about time,” said Rep. Sam Graves, the top Republican on the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. “This hypocritical and overreaching mandate was never about health or science.” (read more)
Arriving in New Hampshire today, Biden was asked what should travelers do about wearing masks? Biden said, “It’s up to them”.
It’s up to them. Finally something Biden said I agree with.
He meant that its up to the masks to decide.
I think he meant it’s up to his bosses to decide for him!
It looks as if he’s off script again. Zerohedge is just reporting there will be an appeal by Biden’s babysitters. Because they are losers. And losers can’t stand to lose.
What I read is that the Justice Dept will appeal if the CDC wants them to.
And they do.
Challenge it! Please! Right before midterms.
Like with everything else he says, his handlers will walk the statement back.
He didn’t say who “them” is. He could mean the CDC, or he could mean the Easter Bunny who “helped” him last Sunday.
Donnie Darko.
Renegade 😎
They will appeal to the 11th Circuit. The only science they care about is political science and winning the next election. Mask mandates keep fear alive which in turn helps promote the fraud use inherent in mail in voting.
Ron Klain of Reset Button fame: no problem!
Klain or mayorkas…who is doing the most damage….hmmmm..
Hillary, the largest reset problem!
No, Rotund Ron Klain breaks buttons with that monster truck sized spare tire of his.
F’em ALL!
Hang ’em all!
Second!
User name checks out!
“Now the Biden DOJ finds themselves in a hot political place.”
No matter where they find themselves, be assured that the current occupiers of the administration will not allow big pharma to lose $$$.
I guess things have slowed down in the COVID Needle Rape department as well.
FDA Authorizes Shelf-Life Extension for Certain COVID-19 Vaccines
Check out this article at:
https://www.empr.com/home/news/fda-authorizes-shelf-life-extension-for-certain-covid-19-vaccines/
It sounds as if more and more have cottoned on to the devastating effects of the immunity wrecking biojab and have said h*ll no. Talk about a shelf life of lies and more lies.
“Public health decisions shouldn’t be made by the courts. They should be made by public health experts,”…
ONLY when those experts are Democrat Operatives. (*)
If those experts are non political. then the Democrats will use Lawfare to make sure the Courts make the “correct” decisions.
Democrats are so predictable.
(*) BTW, Appeal To Authority is a logical fallacy.
It’s like how United said yesterday that mask wearers are welcome to wear masks because “we respect choices”.
After threatening people with prison for 2 years for making a choice they didn’t like.
Just like the Left. You might get its respect by agreeing with it and obeying it. Not guaranteed though.
All throwing adults and children off planes….Bastards
If public health decisions should be made public health experts, how do they explain the fake expert fauci and his moronic decisions?
Irrelevant. And they know it but hope you won’t figure it out. The decision was over the fact that the mandate overstepped the law, not over any health decision.
Yup, throwing sand in the gears is definitely a Judge Wapner moment to Rainman. Do not be offended by my comment, it’s factually true.
Seems to me that if Biden challenges the ruling, they might have to provide clinical evidence that the face diapers work.
Since they don’t have any data to underpin the mandate…don’t think they will challenge it.
It takes them 15 days, to review the data, ALL of which says face diapers do NO good, and do harm.
Must be slow readers.
They’ve NEVER used data, just task Dr. Scott Atlas. They use “credentialed experts” who just say whatever is politically expedient and the Xiden Administration goes with that.
This is not about science or accurate data and it never was–its about the use of raw power.
They have it, we don’t–yet.
Wonder if hackers can take down FAA’s radar system.
Not if they choose the “right” (most left) court of appeals.
They will find one. Guaranteed. BOLO for one of Obama’s appointments.
Mask mania and the Covidian cult…pure unadulterated stupid.
The people who pushed masks and shots should never be forgotten.
I believe they are only pretending to consider a challenge. They want and need this (for now).
Ultimately they will attempt to leverage this decision (no masks – no risk) in the very short term drawing a parallel to (no risk – no testing – no quarantine) associated with the impending May Illegal Alien Invasion.
It was growing more difficult to simultaneously maintain the “citizen shackles” and “alien freedoms” wrt Covid measures.
This gives them the out they need through September – to bring in millions of untested and infected illegals.
Then Around September 11, 2022 the cases will begin the Election Year Spike which will be used to facilitate vote by mail.
They’re already ramping another ‘surge’ up in the news cycle….
THEY stole our election…they’ll do anything they damn well please.
Masks do not prevent Covid. Masks are strictly all about visual demonstration of “Control”. It is very similar to mindless sheep following a goat up a slaughterhouse chute.
The CDC document is about sanitizing rules.
They ended up by accident in front of a young judge that can read.
“Public health decisions shouldn’t be made by the courts. They should be made by public health experts,” Ms. Psaki said.
Wow, where have I seen this before?
“Roosevelt for his part believed “the President has not just a right but a duty to do anything demanded by the needs of the nation, unless such action is forbidden by the Constitution or federal law.” Taft’s general opinion on the other hand was that “the President can exercise no power which cannot fairly be traced to some specific grant of power in the Constitution or act of Congress.”(quoting Donald F. Anderson, William Howard Taft: A Conservative’s Conception of the Presidency (Ithaca, N.Y., 1973)).
We couldn’t care less what those ignoramuses say….WE WILL NOT COMPLY!!!
This one is full of danger for the Biden ‘Administration’. If they do nothing, Dems will be mad at them. If they appeal, the rest (read majority) of the country will be mad at them. Midterms are coming and forgiving student debt is not going to pay off for them, because those costs will be passed on in some manner. I predict they will probably try to appeal, but will choose a surefire way to loose the appeal to try to satisfy the base but still “loose” the appeal.
At this point, they’re faced with a collapse in government legitimacy.
We passed “GOP wins back the house and senate” 5-10% polling points ago.
With 20-30% inflation, they’re looking at total societal breakdown/collapse.
I noticed on my last business trip that three different airports had dropped most of the more rigorous security checks…and people were flying through security.
There is a rage in this country that we have not seen before and it is the kind of rage that leads to Louis XVI solutions.
Good. Let’s start with Jen Psakistan. At the very least these scumbags should live the rest of their lives being discriminated against. It would make my year if restaurant owners and service providers stopped serving these Communists.
Refuse to serve them. Mock them. Cut off all their privilege.
I recall a restaurant in Lexington VA doing that to Sarah Huckabee. It is way past time to turn the tables on these people.
Kipling comes to mind, although Saxon has been used in place of English, and American can also be used as it applies to the current collapse of what we used to know as normal behavior.
“It was not part of their blood, It came to them very late
With long arrears to make good, When the English began to hate.
They were not easily moved, They were icy-willing to wait,
Till every count should be proved, Ere the English began to hate.
Their voices were even and low, Their eyes were level and straight,
There was neither sign nor show, When the English began to hate.
It was not preached to the crowd, It was not taught by the State,
No man spoke it aloud, When the English began to hate.
It was not suddenly bred, It will not swiftly abate, Through the chill years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date, That the English began to hate.”
Granted, this was written in 1917, and there was a different mindset then, with different events, but the foundation has not changed.
“Loose” the appeal? Sorry to really be a “Karen” but I see this error so often, already seen it earlier today on another blog, and it makes my brain hurt. It’s bizarre how common it is no matter what the subject matter is.
If you were sorry,than you would have said nothing.
OMG!! TAKE 5 aspirin so you don’t loose your sanity!
F them. Two weeks for the curve morphed into two years.
THEY don’t care about elections because they stole one, no reason they won’t steal another.
A real leader has clear and realistic goals, is decisive and does not need a poll telling him what to do. He does what he believes is right and good for the people he is governing. He seeks to uphold law and promote justice. He is not a warmonger but strives for peace. He knows the importance of honesty and humility. Perhaps it is time that voters demanded candidates that met these standards rather than polls?
They don’t use polls to decide which policy prescription to pretend to support (which would be bad enough,..as you say not having any principles).
They use polls, to decide HOW to frame the lie they will tell the electorate.
They also use polls to justify those decisions to the electorate.
Oh no… the pilot left the door to the cockpit open!
Quick, put a DOOR mask on that thing.
That’s how excited he was!!!! I don’t blame him.
This is why the dimwit is going to MSDNC, she just doesn’t get the law stuff.
When applied properly, Chevron “accounts for the different institutional competencies of agencies and courts: Courts are expert at statutory construction, while agencies are expert at statutory implementation.” Id. at 530.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/19/19-221/116414/20190919161823682_20190919%2019-221%20tsac%20SLF.pdf
I was thinking skidmore deference.
check it out:
Unlike Chevron deference, which requires a federal court to defer to an agency’s interpretation of an ambiguous statute if the interpretation is considered reasonable, Skidmore deference allows a federal court to determine the appropriate level of deference for each case based on the agency’s ability to support its position.
none of these two principles (or doctrines are binding, constitutionally. they are just a guide to form how the courts may or may not operate to determine federal agency actions. (it’s confusing because this is judicial challenging power with a co equal power from another branch of govt. (exec).
And I believe that these doctrines will come up in the appeals challenge.
if you care to notice these two doctrines are oxymoronic. One the one hand court are required to defer to federal agencies…but on the other hand (skidmore doctrine), the courts are allowed to determine if its decides to defer to the agency.
these two principles are lodged forever in a contradiction. (there are many contradictions in US law btw).
My opinion is tampa court judge was operating on skidmore arguments and this would explain the “interesting” commentary in the ruling.
I’ll predict two things will happen during upcoming appeal:
That’s how I see it shaping up. those are the big arguments.
Biden will probably win this appeal.
questions: if he proceeds and wins, then we can understand his handlers have not given up on control and power.
if he drops it, there will still be a political cost too. There are millions of americans and big donors who would react very poorly at the polls if they realized this administration has been making fools of them for a very long time.
you might find this interesting. I believe the appeals court or perhaps if it gets that far, will be involved in the issues also argued in this case. it’s recent. And it was one of those special cases where a court is again at this juncture between at least 3 contradictory doctrines they are to follow, or should follow, or in some cases not to follow at all. (it’s very complicated constitutional and construction arena matters. It’s always interesting to read the arguments. But at the core, in this recent case kisor v. wilkie…supreme court went round and round with these three doctrines (or principles), focusing on one of them:
noting: Under Kisor, any agency guidance that disclaims authoritative use is ipso facto ineligible for Auer deference, although it arguably might be subject to Skidmore deference.
this is the argument that needs to be made in the appeal court. to win it.
And if not in appeal, then at supreme court.
it’s a pretty non issue to me.
the airlines are going to indicate to the DNC very soon that the honeymoon is soon to be over if they continue to stick with the masks.
and that’s really where the justice actually happens.
when big donors stop answering calls.
https://www.constangy.net/nr_images/kisor-v-wilkie-scotus-6-26-19.pdf
the 2019 scotus case
Covidians!!!
Love it.
Haven’t seen that before.
Presence or absence of a mask is going to be a new badge; think blue/gray or blue & yellow vs. red. You will know from the jump a likely premise held by the person you’re encountering.
SCOTUS has fallen. Kavanaugh and Barrett are compromised and a pro pedophile fascist and racist activist is now joining them. If the regime doesnt challenge an easy win its because its getting pretty damn obvious his real approval rating is 15% with looming midterms. When they rig the election again, it will look too obvious for even the MSM to cover up.
In order for the MSM to cover it up in 2022 and 2024, they need the people to believe Biden cured covid so they can tout that as one of the reasons why the fake approval numbers are where they are etc…Media will say Biden has 48% by midterms.
Given the approval ratings…It means the ballot “mules” will be going into triple overtime…
Sure but that alone and combined with the covid hoax induced mail-in fraud is still far from enough to change the true outcome. They have other tricks up their sleeve and if that all fails too, they can tap into the machines themselves.
We have to get the machines out. Now.
Just like I said yesterday.
The only reason to appeal this ruling is to push Biden’s polling so low that the government loses ALL legitimacy and collapses.
There is a point the Democrats and ruling elites are facing where the election this fall isn’t “throw the bums out”. It’ll be “who loses their head next”…and I don’t mean that metaphorically.
With the inflation numbers crushing people, a purely political fight over a mask mandate set to expire in a week is a suicide mission. If this is true, they are literally suicidal.
The last time Democrats went suicidal, they lost the House, the Senate and the White House.
But they’re looking at public lynchings if they keep this up. They know it. The media knows it.
This is for show to try and convince the Branch Covidians that they tried.
The last time Democrats went suicidal, they lost the House, the Senate and the White House.
And the republicrats did absolutely nothing with that power.
They increased spending, I believe.
That is something.
/s
Trust me, I know. I often point out here that the GOP will stab us all in the chest if they win in November.
Didn’t they just push through an anti-lynching law?
They see their futures?
Besides having to show clinical evidence in court that masks work, the Biden Administration will also have to undo the Judge’s ruling by proving that Mask Mandates are Constitutional. Not a chance!
They don’t want the blame to be on Biden:
On Telegram:
BREAKING!🚨 Biden admin will appeal against ruling for lifting mask mandate if CDC believes it’s still needed, says DOJ.
https://t.me/PatriotVoiceOfficial/23014
Kicking the can to Foulchi!
The Gnome Nazi hardest hit.
The decision not to appeal will come in 15 days where they’ll say: “we’ll, we were gonna drop the mandate anyway, so this ruling did nothing” (but we all know they were gonna keep it going 15 days at time for eternity)
Joe is consulting with his therapy bunny.
He extended the mask mandate to May 3. Why not cinco De Mayo?
Bars would be in an uproar! It allows for massive public Cinco De Mayo celebrations to hopefully create a surge in spreading the virus to justify another shutdown.
Karens will continue to be adorned with a mask as their Burkah.
Until such time as they are required to wear a burkah.
Judge Mazelle, age 33 & a very late (11/2020) Trump appointee, was originally deemed unqualified by the ABA. The left lunatics disdain brilliance, especially if connected to an equally brilliant SCOTUS Thomas…
it should always have been up to travelers.
Challenge in court?
Go ahead.
Make our day.
Yes, by all means they should challenge.
After all, what other priorities are there for this country! /sarc
unsure the lawfare jackals will get their master’$ funding scraps to challenge this
I thought the mask mandate was overturned with “prejuduce” meaning there can be no appeal???
Never stops the Left. It always seem to find a way.
FJB !!!
“The far left is on its heels”… music to my ears…
the SCIENCE SIGNIFICANCE.
pandemics do not swim across oceans.
they are carried worldwide is rapid effect BY AIRCRAFT.
this is WHY this is such a incredible new development and SCIENTIFICALLY< FACTUALLY PLACES THIS ADMINISTRATION INTO ANOTHER CONTEST: CHOOSE SCIENCE< OR CHOOSE MORE CONTROL AND POWER AND DECEIVE ABOUT THE SCIENCE. They will fail this test either way they choose.
Bear in mind, there are still mask mandates for some international airports AND ROUTES that fly continent to continent.
This is unlikely to change anytime soon.
Only those domestic carriers are going to appreciate these new rules.
One has to accept that some nation states still have mask mandates, AND some nation states are considered RED, hotspot.
So this administration has to explain (lie) why it would okay to travel domestically on an aircraft sans mask, but you board a flight to japan, some areas in europe…london…moscow….beijing…toronto….quebec…I think vancouver too…and you will be required to wear at least a mask and in some cases provide a negative test before you are allowed entry on the port of debarkation.
IF the entire premise of this covid health policy was to slow down the GLOBAL SPREAD…that also happens to be a case in which you want to slow it down regionallly..
the US is saying…yeah…okay…no more masks if you fly on one of the domestic carriers…and good luck to you sir if you want to travel outconus!
that’s the scientific reality this administration faces…and they will fail either way on basic health policy.
they want to cling to domestic masks because it steers the control outward globally and matches it.
why the sudden unusual change?
polling data! Nothing AT ALL to do with health policy..or consistency.
It’s about the very likely scenario where they along with cretins like trudy up north is going to face an asswhooping and their entire parties very soon.
So they are “retreating”…They are trying to modify their offensive to gain more power and control in the face of the reality that big corporations are just about fed up with the effort to destroy the economy on purpose.
this idiotic idealogue about green deal and oil production restrictions is about the most asinine backwards national security decisions in my lifetime. (bordering 60).. They want to keep that but they will also relent somewhat because they see the writing on the wall.
YOU DESTROYED THE ECONOMY BY MISERABLE AND VERY SUSPICIOUS CIRCUMSTANCES.
God Bless America
Yes, they have decided to appeal the decision according to other sources. Well, the CDC has to find masks are useful which they will.
Good luck getting the genie back in the bottle. Unless of course you’re looking to stir the pot and incite violence in non-violent hard working people.
I sometimes think they want violence from the right before the midterms…
So hard to know what to do when trying to appeal to a base that is unhinged without alienating the rest of the voters AND combat your appalling poll numbers! Gosh, if only one actually governed by principles instead of spitting into the wind and appeasing the tyrants that hold the purse strings….
The only thing stopping the Department of Just-Us from appealing the decision is the 5th Circuit which they know will side with the Tampa Federal Judge!
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-administration-to-appeal-ruling-overturning-transportation-mask-mandate/
FTA “The Department said in a statement that it will appeal the ruling if the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention concludes that the mandate is “necessary” to protect public health. The CDC has already concluded that the mandate is needed, according to a report from NBC News. The DOJ will not attempt to stay the judge’s ruling, however, meaning that the transportation mask mandate will not be enforced while the DOJ challenges the ruling in court.”
Well I have absolutely no confidence in ACB or Kavanaugh supporting the ruling (perhaps the DOJ already knows the answer)!!!! Look for a return of the masks I pray I’m wrong!!!
Yeah ok. It was NEVER needed!
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Feds will appeal mask ruling only if mandate still needed
https://apnews.com/article/judge-strikes-down-mask-mandates-1fccaa750b6d42b6b609ef75d3c14c26
DoJ poised to act pending corrupt CDC decision.
Don’t know but bet it is challenged.
icymi unmasking the truth – by el gato malo – bad cattitude (substack.com)
“the airlines stepped up with alacrity to (remove the mask mandate within hours of the decision) – they got masks off faces so fast there was not even time for the government to consider an appeal. and that won the day, because not even the brandon bois are fool enough to try to stuff THAT genie back into the bottle. it would have unleashed pure national rage because, even just for a moment, everyone saw that everyone else was happy too.”
What is the DOJ thought process? Go ahead guys (and whatever else you claim to be) and make even more people detest you. I realize you don’t care, but at some point something’s gotta give.
Ooops. Forgot to add after ‘process’ “now that you plan to appeal the ‘drop the mask mandate’ ruling.”
“It’s up to them.” Expect a swift retraction of that unintentionally candid response.
It’s not just the “Covidians” that like masks; Antifa, BLM, and smash-and-grab mob robbers all like masks. There used to be anti-masking laws which had been put in place to help break up the democrat established Ku Klux Klan. These laws went by the wayside, but the dems still miss their Klan.
In NC that law was suspended during Covid…but I think it is time to reinstate it. That was so bl ow the minds of the Branch Covideans..suddenly they would be criminals..haha.
Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
The Justice Department just declared that it will appeal . . . if the CDC thinks the mandate is still necessary. Just a couple days ago, the DOJ was still maintaining that the mandate was needed to protect public health…
2/. …The statements leaves open the possibility that the CDC could declare that it is no longer necessary and thus avoid a costly political appeal — and a contradiction with the President (who just said it should be left up to passengers).
3/. …The contrast to what is being said inside and outside the court by the Administration erodes confidence that these decisions are driven by actual science as opposed to politics.
6:24 PM · Apr 19, 2022
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Stopping the “Ding, Dong Party”: Will The Biden Administration Appeal the Mask Ruling?
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/04/19/stopping-the-bing-dong-party-will-the-biden-administration-appeal-the-mask-mandate-ruling/
They won’t appeal, they’ll come back in 15 days and say they were gonna drop it anyway (which we know they weren’t) giving the appearance of a non-issue, but it won’t matter because they have already lost in the eyes of most Americans who wanted the mask mandate gone long ago. Even the airlines.
Biden’s DOJ Announces It Will Appeal Monday’s Mask Mandate Ruling IF CDC Decides to Keep Mandate — JUST HOURS After Joe Biden Says “It’s Up to Individuals” to Wear Them
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/04/bidens-doj-announces-will-appeal-mondays-mask-mandate-ruling-cdc-decides-keep-mandate-just-hours-joe-biden-says-individuals-wear/
Total flipping incompetence on full display.
I’d like to know under what grounds this appeal would take place. The judge was clear in her 58 page opinion that even if the CDC had good intentions with the mandate that wasn’t sufficient. The opinion said the CDC overreached their congressional mandate (sounds like the eviction moratorium opinion) and violated the Administrative Procedures Act. This requires all agencies to publish a potential public rule in the Federal Register and allow public comments for 90 days. This was never done. The CDC never did this. It was the very same reason SCOTUS said Trump couldn’t remove the DACA rule.
Liberals hate when the same rules are applied to them.
Anyone who’s been watching this clown show knows they will challenge .
Governing to opinion polls, every move shows more and more, the walls are closing in fast, and they haven’t moved the needle.
The power mad are going to appeal, if the left foot approves of the left hand decision.
https://news.yahoo.com/justice-department-appeals-judges-ruling-223314437.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall