I want to be very careful here, because multiple people have sent me a version of this outline asking for opinion. Basically, is David Friedberg correct?
The discussion in this video surrounds farming as a construct of global caloric creation. Meaning, with all that is taking place in the farming system on a global scale, will there be dramatic food shortages? It is a complex issue. In the larger picture what Friedberg, a former scientist within the Monsanto organization, explains is accurate; however, I would inject some nuanced dissension as it relates to U.S. farm production specifically.
The first four and a half minutes of the video are an accurate representation of the global state of farming, albeit with a little too much weight on the Ukraine-Russia aspect. There was a preexisting issue long before Russia entered the picture. The price of fertilizer was already skyrocketing, Russia-Ukraine has made that already looming issue, worse. WATCH First 04:30 minutes:
https://youtu.be/1xtGTVWrw-M
The problem described, about farmers deciding not to plant, is weighted more heavily in less developed countries where access to the financing for a future crop is not stable {AP Article Here}. For most of the developed world farming will continue; it is the end product where prices will reflect the additional costs of bringing a harvest to market. Bottom line, as the futures market is showing, crops will be more expensive.
There is going to be a problem in the same areas of the world where food stability and dependency is already an issue. Yes, the convergence of current farm challenges will make those areas more vulnerable. We do not know, to what extent.
The notation about a 90-day supply of food on a global basis (Northern Hemisphere) is slightly askew, as countries like the United States have a much deeper reserve and storage capacity. We discussed this last year {Go Deep}.
Essentially, in the U.S. we operate approximately one full harvest cycle ahead of demand. However, our problem is the COVID lockdowns in 2020 and 2021 disrupted the two food delivery systems by shutting down restaurants, cafeterias, hotels, hospitality venues, entertainment, school lunchrooms etc and limiting capacity for six months. The government intervention seriously messed up our food supply chain. {Go Deep}
In North America I do not foresee any major scarcity of total food availability, certainly not in the fresh food supply side. There may be shortages on specific segments within the processed and manufactured food supply chain, but those would be nuanced based on specific ingredient issues.
What we will see is continued increases in price and a demand for U.S. agricultural products to fill the voids in global markets that result from less developed nations needing the products our North American farming experts can deliver. There will be a higher demand for us to export food materials, and when combined with the already increased cost for the harvest, that means much higher prices still coming.
Our North American farmers are awesome in their ability to maximize yield, with the customary and appropriate qualifier that ultimately mother nature will determine success or failure. Our U.S. and Canadian farmers and ranchers are the best of the best. Their ability to feed our nation is a national and strategic advantage, unparalleled in any other region. They know how to do it, if the government will just get out of the way and let them work.
If it was a priority for the U.S. government to ensure U.S. food stability, they could spend a few billion by securing fertilizer and reasonably priced energy (diesel) for our farmers, simply to offset the upfront and increased production costs. Then, just turn North America loose, pray a little bit, and let them create as much product as possible for the overall market. Let the market demand determine the crop, and get government out of their business.
Farmers in the U.S, Mexico and Canada have the capacity to drive higher yields. Unfortunately, the politics of war, Wall Street – and the influence of the international banking system – takes a higher priority for DC than simple farming commonsense. Unfortunately, as we saw today, turning corn into gasoline additive just exemplifies the stupidity of the DC mindset.
On one hand, we have serious people concerned about global famine. On the other hand, we have a narcissistic occupant of the oval office, and a tribe of DC idiots worried about gasoline prices and the mid-term election. These issues do not have to be mutually exclusive, and there is a reasonable solution for both of them. However, all that reasonableness evaporates once the people behind a fraudulently elected DC politician walk in the room.
Will there be a dangerous level of food shortage globally? Yes
Will there be a dangerous level of food shortage in North America? No, but there may be some scarcity.
Will there be higher prices? Absolutely.
Unleash the farmers and unleash the energy experts and all of this maddening anxiety ends. Unfortunately, those actions are adverse to the Build Back Better agenda.
We are in an abusive relationship with our government.
Can we stop putting corn in our automobile gas tanks now?
Let’s stop farm subsidies – all of them. All we have gotten from farm subsidies is Big Ag.
Yes! And their specialty is subsidizing bad farming practices.
Such as?
Glyphosate. Etc.
You would have a food shortage without Glyphosate.
We did fine before glyphosate. It was literally illegal to use before the 1990s. I don’t remember growing up in a famine then suddenly having enough to eat.
Exactly. It’s a freaking poison that’s sprayed all over the raw foods
Before you get your drawers in a bind about glysophate, or other herbicides, do some actual research. Many of the noxious weeds have become resistant to other herbicides and will completely take over a field in as little as two years. One pigweed produces tens of thousands of seeds and just a few of these in a field can totally render a field unusable. Farmers only use them because they have to, they are too expensive to use otherwise.
I’ve done the research. It baffles my mind that one can think poison a viable solution to spray on one’s food. That poison is taken up by the plant. This mess is a result of the constant use of poison.
The problem is exacerbated by the fact that we now have a culture that idolizes monocultures, including monocultures of grass in residential areas. The constant spraying of poison thwarts victory gardens.
It leaves no doubt in my mind the significance of terrain theory when looking at the etiology of disease. Yet most still gloss over the fact we are inundated with toxins daily failing to connect their relation to the explosion of chronic disease.
Roundup has been around since the mid-70s. It is soap.
Care to point to health problems caused by use of soap? The mid-70s is about 45+ years ago. Surely something measurable has happened in that time.
If you want to talk about poisons, talk about vapors coming off asphalt…
You are severely misinformed. Glyphosate is poison. I didn’t say there were no other poisons. I was speaking specifically to glyphosate, and pesticides in general.
Before roundup farmers used atrazine, 2.4.d and gramoxone. Lots of other chemicals.
Glyphosate is not and has never been subsidized. It also, when used in conjunction with GMOs, actually reduced the amount of herbicides used.
That is a lie. Glyphosate use increases as opportunistic weeds do not respond to the glyphosate and even more is used.
Actually your statement is not accurate. I use glysophate once a year to remove in-row weeds under grape vines. The other two options are mechanical weeding or burning. Mechanical is literally too expensive (think labor) to realize any profit. With the recent rise (50%) in herbicides burning might be an option though propane is way up as well. Have yet to see opportunistic weeds arise (8 years now) and could not afford to spray them if they did. Beware “simple” agricultural solutions on the internet. The unmentioned by-product is a failed crop.
It is accurate. https://agfaxweedsolutions.com/2019/02/01/glyphosate-resistant-pigweed-14-years-and-counting-dtn/
The only pro-glyphosate literature I can find is either Monsanto or Monsanto-funded propaganda. Also GMO crops are subsidized, as is any product of Big Ag. The corporate multinationals bribe (they call it lobbying) Congress to dole out the big bucks so that farmers will afford Big Ag’s products. But the only people promoting glyphosate and other herbicides are these who profit directly from its use.
https://www.gmosrevealed.com/dirt-poor-the-effect-of-glyphosate-on-soil-minerals/
https://www.gmosrevealed.com/honeybees-are-in-trouble-is-glyphosate-to-blame/
https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2015/gmos-and-pesticides/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bethhoffman/2013/07/02/gmo-crops-mean-more-herbicide-not-less/?sh=5d276a433cd5
The whole world profits from the use of soap.
Only if we don’t eat it.
I’m sure when you were young, you’ve been told to wash your mouth out with soap.
I know I have. There were no lingering physical effects.
Actually no, I never was. My parents were pretty sharp, and taught us kids manners, morals, and respect at a very young age. They never told us to put anything in our mouth that wasn’t designed to be put in there or ingested.
But, tell you what. Go gargle with some Roundup and let us know how well you’re doing afterwards. /s. (Did I really need to add the ” /s”?)
Can you understand the HUGE difference between a parent telling a kid to wash their mouth out with hand soap (kid probably won’t do that or will spit it out quickly if they do) and consuming (ingesting) small amounts of weed killer daily when eating vegetables and grains that were sprayed with Roundup (glyphosate) just prior to shipment or that were grown with seeds from genetically-modified plants with weed killer chemicals genetically-connected? Have you read the warnings that handling glyphosate repeatedly can cause cancer? I surely hope folks understand the difference.
ref. https://www.responsibletechnology.org/gmo-dangers/roundup-weed-killer-linked-to-cancer/
Monocultures, for one.
Yeah that is an obvious problem or was when I you’re the Tobacco farms of Georgia.back in the Seventies.
But farmers are in the game for the long haul farmers don’t go out to hurt their land. A lot has been learned in 250 years of American farming.
They’ve been using that tired word since I was in high school. Monoculture is not a bad thing I hate to tell you
Yep. Foods grown in depleted soils produce less nutritious food. The nitrogen gives the food a nice appearance but without much nutrition.
Oh good lord where did you read that?
The Unites Sates has some of the most fertile soils in the world. The current supply chain crisis endangers that because of high fertilizer costs. Fertility, just like everyday business has to be managed every single year.
The USDA publishes information about the decline of specific nutrients in foods such as spinach. Fertilizers do not contain most of the macro- and micronutrients that contribute to human health; over time, in the absence of crop rotation and allowing fields to lie fallow or planting them with crops that nourish the soil and are plowed under, soil becomes depleted of nutrients. Hence the published findings of the USDA. All this is perfectly logical, and the proof that it is happening exists.
Why would you assume I read it anywhere? The information came from a long time farmer/friend who tests his soil for micro/macro nutrients. I know the integrity of my friend. You? Not so much.
Let’s stop EBT and Calfresh to any and all households with non-citizens as head of household. Sucks for their birthright citizenship children who in many cases are taught they are “Mexican” or “Armenian” or wherever their parents are from.
With my own food and other resources I have earned, I personally would not make distinctions when helping out a family. I even started putting extra avocados and lemons from my trees on my wall for neighbors to take until complete strangers (non- English speaking) started knocking on my door asking. Or my daughter would see one person take all 20 avocados. Opportunists…
Somehow government cheese turned into Big Mac’s and KFC. That was never the intent.
Big Mac’s and KFC have taxable inputs (labor etc) and sales tax. Democrats like the tax part but that is not agriculture products. They turned food subsidy into economic stimulus. That is actually money stolen from farmers.
Which came first? The subsidy or the “big Ag?”
They are symbiotic.
On that I will perhaps agree!
Big Ag wrote the bills with the subsidies.
While I wouldn’t argue that “Big Ag” benefits from at subsidies indirectly, farmers and farmer groups have a seat at the Farm Bill table. The farm bill is huge. About 80-90% of it is actually food support for poor people. Only 10-20% actually go to the farmer. The Farm Bill is a huge document. I admit I have never read it so there are probably things going on it that I/we have no clue about but I do know how it benefits our farm. To that, I will speak. Currently, there are only two real subsidies. The first is for conservation. The government pays us to take some land out of production that they feel leads to water pollution. Some land is taken out next to bodies of water to protect them. We do not participate in that. The other subsidy is reduced premiums for crop insurance. That program is a safety net to help farmers survive the wild swings in our business cycle. We participate in that. It is neither a loser or profitable for us. The last time I checked, over a fifteen year period, we had a profit of $15 after spending in excess of $250,000 in premiums.
Bill,
Read the entire document, not just the part that concerns you. The devil is in the details.
You are currently having the government tell you what you can plant and where you can plant it on your own private property. It also appears that you are paying them to do it.
You have big ag because people don’t want to grow a garden in their yard. It is easier to get your food via a credit card.
This is true. I have been trying to grow food in my neighborhood. Most here are only interested in growing summer tomatoes and peppers, with not much else.
My hometown did a DVD of family films from the ’50s & ’60s. It was amazing to see how thin everyone was. I know there was more physical work back then, but I thought diet made the difference.
Fast forward to today, I’ve adopted the old diet we grew up on. Lots of root vegetables along with roasts, cabbage, etc. I’m amazed at being able to lose weight and keep it off.
The government does not tell me what I can or cannot plant.
“The first is for conservation. The government pays us to take some land out of production that they feel leads to water pollution. Some land is taken out next to bodies of water to protect them.”
Houston!!! We have a problem! I would imagine anyone posting on this site would know better than to accept or believe ANYTHING the government tells them.
Yes we can. Get elected and make policy changes.
PTL, where we live, “ethanol free” is widely available in 3 grades!
Starting to become easily available in Central PA. Often used for boating. I use it for overwintering my mowers and snow equipment.
Mashed potato brain just approved for 15% ethanol throughout the summer.
Why?
The food waste is not as great as you may think. Once the surgars are removed, the remainder is still used for livestock feed.
All I know is my car runs a heck of a lot better when I use it. It is expensive but every so often I will splurge and fill my tank. And it is the only gasoline my lawn mower likes.
My local lawn equipment dealer told me to NEVER use ethanol. He said it gums up the engine.
Please pardon me, but I must interject here in your conversation about ethanol fuel. While ethanol does attract water, from an engine standpoint, the greatest single problem with running ethanol fuel in ANY internal combustion engine is that ethanol is ALCOHOL. Alcohol breaks down any and all rubber components in your fuel system. Items like fuel hoses, fuel pumps, carburetors, fuel injectors, fuel pressure regulators, fuel tank gaskets…literally any rubber component, seal, or gasket will be destroyed by ethanol mixed fuel of any percentage.
Ethanol runs hotter than gasoline. When ethanol (alcohol) is added to gasoline, it becomes more combustible. So cars that typically require a higher octane blend of gasoline will run on a lower octane blend of ethanol without knocking. However, gasoline with ethanol in any octane grade has less lubricity (less slick/less lubrication) than its non-ethanol gasoline counterpart.
Engine wear and longevity are the key issues that are at stake when using ethanol fuel. Using ethanol fuel in your vehicle WILL shorten its service life, even if it is a flex fuel or hybrid car. Heat and friction are the enemy of every mechanical device. Using ethanol fuel in your vehicle increases both in your engine.
If you will be storing your car, DO NOT let it sit with a tank of ethanol fuel. Fill it with non-ethanol gas, preferably a higher octane grade, and add a gasoline stabilizer to the tank at the mixture level recommended on the label.
Also, DO NOT use ethanol fuel in your lawn maintenance equipment … lawn mowers, weed eaters, blowers, edgers, etc. Use only non-ethanol fuel. Drain the fuel and run dry any equipment that will be stored longer than 3 months. Change the oil every year (if applicable).
Corn needed to stay in it’s lane: as human and animal food. It is a poor excuse for gasoline. Ethanol is very destructive to the vehicles that are in service today. NO car in production is capable of running on ethanol without long term negative mechanical consquences.
Your points are all well taken, and I agree completely. You elaborated one the internal engine issues with the alcohol component of ethanol fuels.
Having had many problems created by using ethanol in small, infrequently-run engines after non-ethanol fuel became unavailable, I learned about True Fuel and Sea Foam years ago. True Fuel is prohibitively expensive for many but it resolved my emergency generator problem.
I had a Honda EU6500is “portable” (254 lbs dry weight) 4 cycle gasoline powered unit. When I first bought it in 2011, our town was experiencing significant power outages due to trees being too close to the feeders, and, I believe, overloading. I could hear the pole transformers dying with loud unmistakable hums from 3 blocks away. I used the generator about 3 times per year, sometimes for days at a time.
About 5 years later (~2016) the utility company made some major upgrades to local distribution equipment and our power reliability went up, except for 1 to 4 hour outages when tree branches took out a section of the local grid. The outages became increasingly less frequent until for the last several years we hadn’t needed to use the generator even once. During the last 4 years of ownership, I discovered True Fuel – could be used in and stored in the fuel tank for 2 or 3 years with little to no impact on startup (it had a battery I kept on a Honda battery tender) and operation.
Before discovering True Fuel I would use Sea Foam in the tank if it had year-old regular (with ethanol) gasoline in the tank. Sea Foam worked about 80% of the time. In the early years, I had to have the engine cleaned and carburetor repaired twice due to moisture and corrosion issues.
I sold that generator to a neighbor, and bought a permanently-installed standby whole-house generator that runs on natural gas (it’s hard-connected to our gas line). It fires up automatically 10 seconds after loss of grid power. But I learned the lessons of using ethanol gasoline with the Honda generator and my old 22″ walk-behind lawn mower that I kept around even after hiring a local mowing service.
We live in a country of fat people because they eat poison laced foods devoid of nutrients.
Switch to a diet prevalent in the 50s and 60s and you will find the fat melts away. Eat plenty of root vegetables, cabbage, meats. Eating all the prepared food from the grocery store creates obesity. All the flavor enhancers added cause the major problems.
If you eat a 50s or 60s diet, you will find you are pleasantly full and your meal “sits well”.
Nothing like a pot roast along with carrots, onions, potatoes, and gravy for a good night’s sleep!
Biden says use E15 blended gas which is 15% ethanol. Unless your vehicle specifically states it is acceptable it will ruin your engine. Older vehicles are not made to run on that garbage. Also making more ethanol just takes more corn out of the food chain, vegetable oil has already seen a 50% price hike and other corn related products are up double digits as well.
Why is the USA shipping its soy bean production to China this year? https://gro-intelligence.com/insights/usda-raises-soybean-exports-estimate-but-gro-predicts-demand-will-increase-further
“Why is the USA shipping its soy bean production to China this year?”
To feminize Chinese men?
LMFAO!
At the risk of oversimplifying the issue, we need to factor in growing corn for ethanol. Even with heavy applications of chemical fertilizers, growing corn on the same soil year after year will deplete the soil. It’s just not good for the land. A way around this is to do a corn then soybean crop rotation. Different crops requiring different fertilizers. That, and the bean plants ability to deal with nitrogen in the soil make the corn/bean rotation a good long term option. Problem is, what do you do with all those beans? Only so much of a market in the US, hence the need to look elsewhere.
I just wondered as vegetable oil is in short supply and its made from soybeans
The shortage of that and reduced consumption should improve health.
Sunflower oil is the one causing the uproar.
Corn/soybeans is also not good for the water table — in farmland, much of the well water is contaminated with chemicals from the intensive farming/fertilizer/pesticide usage…
Monocultures, I think, are the culprit. Nothing but soy beans for acres and acres?
Heaven for any pest insects that can eat soy beans. Able to find that field from miles away. No other plants to disguise the smell of soy beans.
Predators of pest insects need diverse habitat.Polyculture.
Exclude natural pest control… while rolling out the welcome mat for pests….
Leading to the use of chemical pesticides.
Not true. And soybeans don’t stink. Where did you hear that one?😂😂
Pest insects can smell food. Never said they stank or that humans could smell it.
Are you drinking?
Bernadette, excuse my snarkieness. Pests will invade monocultures, yes. But pest will also invade gardens. We manage our pests with what’s called Integrated pest management. We do use insecticides to control the bugs and we use herbicides and other methods to control weeds. It’s all managed and luckily we have had products and techniques developed over the last 100 years or so to deal with the problems we face. We do not “drench” our crops in pesticides as groups like the Organic Consumers Union proclaims. Typically we take a very rifled approach to pest management and the includes scouting our fields to determine if we have pests, how old the pests are (are they near the end or beginning of their life cycle), and are there predator insects which will naturally control the population. I hope this helps.
Interesting.
What would you have us grow then? Pixie dust and unicorns?
Don’t give the Calimexistan environazis any more crazy ideas. They believe that Battery EVs are powered by pixie dust and unicorn power coming out of the wall.
They might pass some laws that California will have to direct 25% of all Central Valley production to pixie dust and unicorn power.
Who told you that? Growing continuous corn does not deplete the soil unless the fertility is improperly managed. Many studies actually show increased yields, year after year, under no-till situations.
Yield and nutritional value are not necessarily correlated.
Don’t make fun of soybeans.
The soybeans grown in the fields around Honda’s plants in Ohio are arguably the World’s best.
The Japanese buy them.
Also, in SoCal, over at Meiji Tofu in Torrance, they make handmade tofu using those beans.
Don’t pick on tofu until you’re tried real handcrafted tofu made from super-premium soybeans, you might change your tune.
On a hot day, a plate of cold green creamy soft tofu is outstanding…. actually more palatable than an aged prime grade ribeye cooked in a sous vide.
Soy is a phytoestrogen. Many women with family histories of breast cancer avoid it.
Last I read 70% of soy produced in the USA is GMO and saps the testosterone out of males. I’m all for it going to China.
There have been literally trillions of meals served with maybe a bit of gmo on the side. If what you said was true we’d all be dancing around like Richard Simmons and Liberace.
Can’t pass up the Liberace story. Liberace sent his brother George out for seafood. He brought back two sailors!!
He was a fine entertainer, same era as Lawrence Welk….. great music.
Have you looked at our young population lately? Soy Boys are a real thing and so is Was-Mart fat.
They put garbage in what they send here, so back at them.
Soyis full of phytoestrogens…. scientists are unsure of what effect this has on humans…but they say men shouldn’t eat more than 2 servings a day….
There is no “uncertainty” about what it does. Gynecomastia, anyone? When “men” began sporting gold necklaces, I used to say, “You Tarzan, me Jane. I wear the jewelry.” Now it’s more like , “I wear the bra, but you need one too.”
As noted above, it’s a potent phytoestrogen.
RtR: Maybe because the CCP has bought-up farmland in the U.S. ?
They sold Smithfield to Chinese.
Smithfield pork is disgusting. Won’t touch it in the supermarket.
You must have missed the last minute of the video which explains the problem.
We have overeducated dumb people who graduated from prestigious universities with degrees.
This allowed the dumb people to be put into positions where they are making decisions.
Ethanol fuel is the biggest most vapid and toxic scam ever. Rape the land, deplete the soil, gain nothing in efficiency but much in toxicity and destruction, and keep all those resources out of producing food.
99% of those professing to love the planet actually rather hate humanity.
Brazil is holding back 30% of corn this year for ethanol due to oil shortage
In the last decade I believe Brazil discovered huge ocean reserves, possibly the largest at that time. What happened?
Perhaps Russia will help them drill! Brazil is also pulling back on sugar production too!
Brazil is one of the most corrupt countries on the planet.
Save the world for all the people they want dead, or unborn through abortion or through non-heterosexuality.
I’d be interested to know if they could produce anything else on that land for a similar profit. In addition is it feed corn, corn we eat, or a whole other type of corn used for that ethanol crap.
…or for high fructose corn syrup.
Another poison in food that folks would be healthier without.
Bullshit, I owned the company that first put HFCS in a food product – not a beverage. It was in the 1970’s and we researched it before we used it.
Everything you think you know about HFCS is crap. You get more sweetness and fewer calories and that’s bad?
Maybe the conclusion was inaccurate?
https://www.irenes.edu/2022/04/01/10-health-dangers-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup/
Yes!
Well, what they are being paid to produce that crap is government mandated graft.
Hard to find legitimate competition that pays that well.
The corn we eat is different, except for corn meal and meal based products. Otherwise all corn goes into the same storage and is sold to buyers that need it for any purpose.
There are some exceptions. There is a corn elevator in Kentucky that is used by distillers. They try to find corn that will have sugars needed to make bourbon and they pay a bit of a premium to get it. Meal corn for human consumption is also a better grade and is selected for the properties needed for human food.
I don’t eat refined sugars often, but when I do, I make sure it’s at least 80 proof and aged in a barrel. 😉
Who tells you people this dumb shit?
Do you think ethanol is good for car engines?
Suggested reading: How to Win Friends and Influence People.
😂😂😂
Pattyinporterville you are correct and I apologize. It’s just that articles like this one does tend to bring out too many comments that I cannot abide. It just makes me wonder where people are getting their information from.
My information comes from a very long time farmer and dear friend. My friend is known for his honesty and integrity. He is also a successful family farmer here in the San Joaquin Valley in CA.
I accept your apology and thank you.
Here’s to both of you. And I’ll drink to that! 👍💕
“99% of those professing to love the planet actually rather hate humanity.” Winner Chicken Dinner!
“Our North American farmers are awesome in their ability to maximize yield, with the customary and appropriate qualifier that ultimately mother nature will determine success or failure. Our U.S. and Canadian farmers and ranchers are the best of the best. Their ability to feed our nation is a national and strategic advantage, unparalleled in any other region. They know how to do it, if the government will just get out of the way and let them work.”
AMEN.
That was a particularly wonderful paragraph wasn’t it. As a farmer, I think he, and you, understand.
It is inspiring to read. Government overreach is ruining everything. Rules and regulations are being made by people who know nothing about farming. Instead of asking farmers how things actually work, they turn to bureaucrats who never did an actual day’s work in their lives.
The state bureaucrats come into the supermarket where I work. They don’t work, but just walk around with no suggestions on how to actually make anything work better.
“Government” makes a mess out of everything it touches.
Corrupt government is the real plague.
The good news is that when all of this is over, America will enjoy an era of prosperity such as none of us have ever seen. You don’t come back “lightly” from this sort of thing.
Only if we string up every last criminal.
Just sayin.
…or guillotine.
I am open to just about anything!
Although Fauci needs to be his own test subject.
Hang ’em high. We are currently living through a criminal regime.
“when all of this is over”
🤣 Bold of you to assume this is going to be over
She is right, because, in the immortal words of Herbert Stein, “If something can’t continue forever, it will stop.”
High fertilizer prices aren’t necessarily because of a shortage of fertilizer or the inability to access it. When crop prices go up, the relatively few fertilizer companies want a piece of the profit, so they raise their prices accordingly.
Sure, Jeff.
Proof? Have you read anything about the ingredients in fertilizer and where they are produced?
No hard proof actually. Just seems like in the past when such things as weather events caused crop prices to rise, fertilizer prices would rise also, when there didn’t seem to be any intrinsic reason besides the rise in commodity prices. Maybe I’m wrong.
One of the largest fertilizer suppliers to the world market is Russia.
I figure DC and Sacramento would also supply lots of fertilizer… after all, those politicians are sure full of it.
Unfortunately, the DC and Sacramento fertilizer streams harbor persistent toxins.
no doubt.
Everybody wants their piece of the pie.
Explain that to the farmer that grows corn on my land. He would love to have some of that costly fertilizer to side dress but there is none at any price. If they were raising prices to gouge and make extra profit, would they not make certain they had that overpriced stuff to sell?
Jeff C. I, for one, think you hit the nail on the head with this one. When I came back to the farm in the early 80s, I managed the family’s fertilizer and chemical business. At that time we had probably 20-30 manufacturers of both fertilizers and chemicals. Today the chemical industry is dominated be maybe four players and maybe a couple more in the fertilizer industry. For years I have complained of collusion in the fertilizer industry. Nitrogen fertilizers, in particular, have been literally pegged to the price of corn. The “competitors in that industry have been blaming Putin and the supply chain crisis for the literal doubling of prices over last year. I’m waiting for the release of their 1st and 2nd quarter financials to see if the farmers have been gouged.
It is my belief that Fast and Furious was just a monitoring system, for a much broader operation to funnel military grade weopons to the Cartels, IN ORDER TO ramp up the violence, and HERD millions to abandon homes, family, friends etc. and head North.
Similarly, I believe the Libia and Syria operations INTENDED to arm ISIS, and combined with the rest of the “Color revolutions” to DRIVE or HERD Millions up into Europe.
So, this is going to mean while WE in the U.S. and “developed World” will experience inconvenience, people in the THIRD World will STARVE.
Which will also be a strong motivation to emigrate, illegally into US and Western Europe.
“there are no coincidences,..”
My worry remains that the bankrupt dot gov (post dollar collapse) will confiscate domestic supply and export it for cash. Like Stalin and the Holodomor.
These people want themselves rich and in power, and us dead. The above would advance that agenda. Therefore I consider it possible, almost likely.
to pay the debt
Crop rotation with nitrogen fixation. K & PO4 is easy to handle.
At least that what I do in the Victory Garden.
The ‘cane growers down here do the same thing.
And, the free range cattle down here are fat as cows.
Finally, the grass is real green over the septic field. See India for further details.
Hive dwellers…you’re on your own. I have zero sympathy.
There are still government programs that pays farmers to fallow crop land.
Some people won’t be getting enough food, but they will be getting plenty of water.
“At least ten fire engines to be either on the road or already at the factory [in Mariupol] to start pumping water from the river or sea and pumping water to above-ground ventilation shafts that carry fresh air to the cavernous network of tunnels below the Azovstal metallurgical complex..
If Azov close the ventilation shafts, they will drown within a few days. If they do not close the ventilation shafts, they will drown in a few days. In any case, the siege of the factory will be terminated in such a way that the factory itself can remain intact..”
You have a quote. Do you have a link to the source article, please?
http://thesaker.is/sitrep-operation-z-8/
It’s likely Russian.
Web search for “pumping water Azovstal metallurgical complex”
I used the brave search engine
I would be interested in SD’s take on the Ammonium nitrate explosion in Beirut last year. Coincidence?
That stuff was old and sitting forever, doubt anyone had constructive intentions for it.
food insecurity in non-birth control 3rd world countries living above the carrying capacity of their local ecosystems
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‘climate’ refugees (everything is our fault, don’t you know)
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more voters for the socialist parties in Western countries, which are all reliable lackies of international finance
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working as designed by the Globalist American Empire: immigration is war and food is a weapon in that war
what the guy said at the end, ” over educated dumb people”…. yup
The expression I heard, and often repeat, is:
Some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
That’s encouraging Sundance.
But, and I hate to say but, I keep hearing of large ranches going bankrupt, and guess who buys them out?
Part of the reason is the insane system that has been developed over many decades where the government tells the farmers and ranchers what they can and can’t produce and what they must or must not do. Every year those good salt of the earth people put everything on the line and don’t “get paid” unless and until certain criteria are met. They are only millionaires on paper. Paupers in reality. Yes, there is an abusive relationship between the government and our farmers and ranchers. And I do wish the government would get the hell out of the way.
Another but, the idiots in DC want our system to fail because they are Marxists. They aren’t rooting for our farmers and ranchers, or us for that matter. They want failure – so that’s the scary part. They’ve already stuck so many sticks in the available bicycle tires that at some point we’re going to have to accept failure or go after them with a vengeance. They view American capability to do amazing things as “privileged” and they want us all taken down a few notches. They want us to experience what third world countries experience. They want us to be afraid so we will comply. It’s a very dark agenda.
What really needs to happen is the illegitimate white house occupant needs to be kicked out and the real President put where he belongs. All the participants of this enormous coup need to face a lifetime in jail or the firing squad.
My two cents.
Meanwhile, small farms and homesteads are back in style.
We may not starve, but so many others might (and NO Bill Gates people don’t want to eat bugs and lab meat and frankenstein food!!)
When I think of this on a global scale, I just get furious with the Biden Administration for allowing things to get this out of control.
We need energy independence. We need to stay out of foreign countries. We need government out of our lives.
Firing squad for every one of these treasonous criminals. The illegitimate government is taking the US apart stick by stick.
The above post is spot on as well as beautifully written.
What is a ‘ Canola ‘ plant ? Where Canola oil comes from ?
Real name is Rapeseed Oil. But try marketing that name. So they invented a new name.
In parts of the NW, Canola is alternated through some of the wheat fields to assist soil composition. It’s a beautiful bright yellow when in bloom
A lot of it is grown in Alberta, Canada. It makes a cooking oil that isn’t that healthy for you but because of the very low price there is a robust demand. It is a very lucrative crop for those who grow it–thousands of dollars per acre gross revenue.
In Germany it is grown for fuel.
Canola is lucrative, but cannot be reasonably grown except for every third or fourth year. It takes too much out of the soil. In Alberta it is usually rotated with wheat and barley. It is also quite tricky to harvest, the AG people keep a very close eye on harvest dates. If too much falls over the tiny canola kernels fall onto the ground and are difficult or impossible to recover.
Canola oil can get heated quite a bit without smoking.
It’s a good choice for making steamed white fish topped with ginger, green onions, pearl onions and soyu in Chinese/Japanese dishes. You cook the fish, top it with the ingredients and then drizzle the very hot oil on top of everything arranged on a serving tray.
We also use it for the wok.
I don’t like the framing of everything right now as ‘it’s all this war’s fault’ when it’s been brewing for a while with no sign of stopping. This merely agitates things.
A stock/commodities trader has some other ideas. Talks about processing brine to produce mineral fertilizers.
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If you have even a 10′ square plot of land, plant a moringa tree. Also known as drumstick tree. Super-easy to grow, grows like a weed, and every single part of it from the roots to the leaves to the flowers and seeds is edible.
Now, I’m not saying that it tastes real good. But you can add it to other stuff, be creative. It has maybe more nutrients than almost anything else (probably why it tastes like chewing a non-chewable vitamin!) 7 times more vitamin C than oranges, 15 times more potassium than bananas, 3 times the calcium of milk, protein, iron, amino acids… etc.
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An African coworkers told me about moringa years ago. Also a Filipina. moringa is Good stuff if you can grow it.
Moringa is touted as anti cancer in some articles that I have read.
I drink Moringa tea.
But does it need zones 9-11? I read that online–any method to grow it outdoors in temperate climates?
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For those in areas of the country that freeze, yes it can be grown indoors in a largish pot, giving it as much west/south sunlight as possible. This might be an even easier way to use it for food. But warning, it grows fast, so you’ll have to keep cutting and pruning and using.
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Thanks!
Farmers “out here” between El Campo, Texas and Victoria, Texas, and Port Lavaca appear to be planting normally. The fields directly west and adjacent to our place are already “coming up” nicely. I’ll stop and talk to the farmers working it to get a direct input on their views and how this circus is affecting them, crops, pricing, and their plans on dealing with it. Crops out here include corn, cotton, soy, rice, and 4-legged crops called cows. Local cattle ranchers have jumped in with both feet starting in 2020 with direct-to-consumer beef and family-owned processing facilities have been built by a few rancher-businessmen sick of selling cheap to “big ag” processors. Prices have gone up from $400/quarter to $600/quarter for beef(usually between 92 and 115 pounds of grass-fed, local cattle). The meat is good and still a bargain vs. what grocers are charging.
Just made a trip this weekend from San Antone to Sherman and back.
Went up 35W though Fort Worth and then east.
Normal planting going on everywhere we went. Saw lots of activity in progress. If there is any problem this year, it would be the persistent drought conditions through most areas in Texas. Sure need some good rains.
that there you speak of is a special piece of Texas that is near and dear to me.. memories..
many nights driving alone through that rural coastal plain.. with only the stars above..
going and coming from Houston to Port O’Connor, TX. to catch crewboats going offshore..
it was a great life as a fck’n oilfield diver.. and all the while knowing I was working with the best in the world.. for the best in the world..
it was a great feeling.. top of the world.. all the fck’ alone.. it’s lonely up there..
but I was a fck’n loner anyway..
Port O’Connor.. it was a quiet sleepy little port..
my favorite.. to and from Houston.. Uptown..
down through the rural Texas coastal plains..
just me.. and the stars.. and the cows..
from sleepy port.. to party city..
and in only ninety minutes..
it was the best of both worlds..
Texas..
Judging from our changed winter weather patterns this year, I would guess the Russians have completed their HAARP station in the Arctic. The Dimocrats bitterly hate the Russians but the Russians are not stupid and will avenge the Biden provocations.
That would be our side. There is no drought in California; it’s weather warfare and Gates blotting out the sun to cool the earth. Terrible people.
I would agree with the synopsis/conclusion but for the fact that the Biden regime is ACTIVELY TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICAl
Yes, this could be a trivial problem. Our sanction/swift/banking policies created the embargo on fertilizer components. 100 Million for fertilizer cost mitigation would be a drop in the bucket compared to the Billions of stimulus.
But none of that is going to happen. We will waste more corn to lower the price of gas by 5 cents.
Add to this the wavy jet stream caused by the Grand Solar Minimum and the growing conditions become very unpredictable (last year’s Brazilian harvest for example).
I think the predictions outlined in the story are best case. I also do not in any way expect a best case outcome.
I would agree with the synopsis/conclusion but for the fact that the Biden regime is ACTIVELY TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICAl
And the naive will say that’s rubbish, and that the regime only wants to help us live a better life. My response is to say Okay, but if they ever DID try to destroy us, what would they do different than what’s happening today?
So long as my SPAM and VELVEETA prices don’t go up much, I’m good.
Spam at Costco is up to 21 bucks for the package of 8.
Over at the Japanese food stores, the cheapest I’ve seen it, on sale, is 3.50! Which sucks as we like the Portugee Sausage type.
Speaking of Hawai’ian Portugee Sausage… it’s going for 7 bucks now, while last year it was 4 bucks!!!!
Spam Musubi will soon be a luxury.
Will there be a dangerous level of food shortage in North America? No, but there may be some scarcity.
So, we can quit hoarding food and stop worrying about starving , roving bands of thugs killing us for our canned beans? Glad that got cleared up after all the doom and gloom here lately. Now I can quit looking at my dog and thinking how I am going to cook him when the time comes.
Exactly.
Prepare for the worst.
Hope and pray for the best.
Always…be prepared!
Isn’t it time Biden signs an Executive Order banning fossil fuels? I mean, if it saves just one tree …
Then you’ll see tens of millions here die from starvation within months, while tens of millions more are murdered for their food supplies.
An inevitable communist end and veritable communist utopia!
So, as I have posted before, we have been wheat, corn, soy, legume, and sugar free for about 7+ years now. We paid a premium for this of course.
Now, as the costs for the “standard American diet” have been rising, our costs have remained roughly constant.
With a lot of veg gardening, fermenting and canning I think we will be ok.
As a farmer, I found your article reasonably astute and with none of the usual falsehoods that generally fill opinion pieces like this. Good job!.
What I was afraid of, and what turned out to be true, was that your piece made great fertilizer for the cultivation of a field of “expert” commentators who really know nothing of agriculture or ethanol.
It pains me to read the comments of otherwise very smart people that have no idea about the delicate economic balance that supplies food for the world and allows farmer to make a living.
Didn’t the Secretary of Agriculture come out last week and say something about us making sacrifices (in aid of the Ukraine/Russia narrative)? I took that to mean that between high input prices, lots of regs designed to hinder farmers and ranchers, and selling/donating more crop yields to other parts of the world who are going hungry that US consumers are going to be sacrificing by paying more and having less available. How much more money and how much less food – TBD.
And who knows how far the “bird flu” culling will go? And weather? And water supply?
While I appreciate the comfort of reading that we are not likely to have serious shortages, I am not comfortable with potential the decision makers have to really wreak havoc on our own food supply. So I am doing my best to prepare for the worst.
While there are some commercial flocks of chickens dying of bird flu, there are also two types of tests for it.
The traditional tests might often say this flock is healthy.
The PCR test almost always says this flock is infected.
Just like the PCR test did with covid, it is too sensitive to be accurate.
But the chickens are slaughtered before they can be cleared as healthy.
Seems to be on purpose to raise the prices and convince more people to eat soy-root meat substitutes that are bad for us.
Sadly while those struggling to get by on less than 1200 calories a day will suffer even more, Stacy Abrams will continue her state of excess calories and creepy Joe will keep eating double scoops of ice cream.
I talk to farmers in California and the biggest concern, as it always has been, is lack of water for irrigation. The resources are there just as they have always been. The reason for the shortage of water is the environmentalist
When I worked as a hydrographer on one of the rivers which feeds water to the Valley there were 53 hydroelectric dams scheduled to be built in the Sierra Nevada’s. All have been blocked but four by the environmentalist.
When you hear of drought in California, it is always manmade drought.
In the past, didn’t California have reservoirs to catch and store rain during years of abundant rainfall? But environmentalists prevented them from being maintained?
I don’t know of it, but I do know we would have plenty of water and cheap electricity if they had not blocked the proposed dams being built.
Stewardship of resources has been skewed towards eco-freak issues, so farms are being denied water which is being flushed straight out to sea to “save” a non-endangered bait fish and such foolishness.
The ultimate truth in all this is, they want poor people, because poor people consume less.
Dead people even less.
Our U.S. and Canadian farmers and ranchers are the best of the best. Their ability to feed our nation is a national and strategic advantage, unparalleled in any other region.
Great article Sundance. But you failed to mention 🇲🇽 Mexico. That surprises me. I’m sure you overlooked all the great farmers and their capabilities. Viva All Farmers!
“In North America I do not foresee any major scarcity of total food availability, certainly not in the fresh food supply side. ”
Well, there are a myriad of instances where US citizens go without while the results of our work are sent elsewhere.
$14 billion to Ukraine and free cell phones for illegal aliens are two recent examples.
Would food be another example of the results of our work being sent elsewhere?
At one time and I do remember certain fresh foods were seasonal. We did not have fresh fruits and vegetables all year around.
Corn planting decisions are being made right now. Some are locked in.
The cost to plant and harvest an acre of corn is pretty much fixed by the acre. The fertilizer, chemicals and diesel will be the same for almost every acre planted, and this year those costs are high. The yield of every acre is not the same. Farmers can know very precisely exactly which acres of ground produce the best. They can also look at futures markets and see projected harvest prices. A huge variable is rainfall, but that is a variable every year and averages are averages.
The farmer takes the total cost per acre for inputs and determines the acreage that will produce a yield that will generate a profit. In most years, that is every acre with marginal acres barely covering costs and productive acres generating the profits. With costly inputs, there are some acres that can not produce enough yield at projected prices to cover costs. Those acres will be sidelined or converted to an annual summer grass that can be harvested as hay for cattle for one year. The High yield acres will still get planted.
The government gets reports from farmers about the number of acres that will be planted. They use that to determine total projected yield. There is a fly in this ointment. This year not every acre is equal. Acreage is being removed reducing total yield but that acreage is less productive meaning that the AVERAGE acre yield may be higher as the higher yield acres will still be planted. The government has no way to calculate the effect of this unusual planting decision matrix. Even with the higher yield acreage, the farmer will make less money because the inputs are more expensive. The trick is making enough yield to not lose money.
On top of that uncertainty, there is the always uncertainty of rainfall. Pray that there is no drought in the corn belt adding to the problems.
For many operators the corn planting decisions were made last year. Seed and fertilizer deliveries often begin a few months after harvest.
In my area anyway. I don’t know of one farmer planning to plant one less acre.
And next year the higher yield per acre will be baked into every gubmint calculation despite the reality of which acres are planted.
I’ve always have had an interest in the outdoors. Hunting, foraging, wood craft, backpacking, (new to me) bushcrafting, trapping, fishing, shrooming, everything outdoors. Recently we’ve been adding wild edibles to our diet. Many of the wild edibles take developing a taste for it yet some are easy to add to a meal. Most are very high in nutrients that the body can use, much higher than what corporate agg offers in the grocery store.
Look up “Wild Garlic Mustard”. It makes an excellent pesto and is a super food. Stinging Nettles is another super food and makes for an excellent substitute for spinach and also makes a great tea.
What people of the third world have over us in the USA is that they know a hell of a lot more about how to live off the land than I/we will ever know. The knowledge of our forefathers had have been lost to most. Embrace your rural grandparents, they have a wisdom that you will learn to appreciate the hard way.
Stinging nettle tea is good for many things including seasonal allergies.
Well.. Maybe.. America will go on a much needed diet..
I read somehwere that Israeli farmers plant peanuts , then plow the whole crop into the ground
Peanuts have a lot of nitrogen and can provide a natural fertiliser
There’s a planting strategy called “The Three Sisters”. Corn, squash and green beans. The corn grow tall which supports the green beans,, The Green beans put nitrogen into the soil which fertilizes the corn and the squash, the squash blocks out the weeds which helps the corn and the green beans . All three store well during the winter.
That “strategy” came from some indigenous people of North America who met the European explorers hundreds of years ago.
Growing up in Appalachia, my mother always dried beans. by stringing them on long threads and then hanging in the sun. We also dried applies and when Thanksgiving and Christmas came, we had apple stack cakes and shuck beans. How I miss those times!
Plowing down a cover crop, often called “green manure” is practiced the world over. What’s planted as a cover crop will vary from region to region. Problem for many in the colder climates is the growing season is too short for a second planting.
Anybody know the key ingredients in fertilizer?
Nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium.
N,P,K. Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium. These are the three primary components in commercial fertilizer. The letters used come from the Periodic Table of the Elements.
Anhydrous ammonia (82% N) is probably the most common form of nitrogen used followed by liquid nitrogen (usually between 28-32%N.
Dry nitrogen forms come as urea, ammoNiue nitrate (the kind used in bombs, think Oklahoma), and ammonium sulfate (21%N and 24%Sulfur). Urea is probably the most common form although not much is used here in the Midatlantic area because it’s so hygroscopic and tends to weld itself together into one giant clump if not used quickly.
Phispahate typical comes from four sources. Three liquid and one dry. The liquid is orthophosphate commonly known as either poly or 10-34-0 or as high as 11-37-0. The first number is nitrogen, the second is phosphate. The dry forms are triple super phosphate (0-46-0), diammonium phosphate (18-46-0), and monammonium phosphate (11-52-0)
Potassium is provided from potash (0-0-60 to 0-0-62).
Minor elements (B, Zn,Mn, Fe,Cu, Mo,and any others) are blended on an as needed basis in both dry or liquid forms.
It really depends how invested the Deep State is in provoking a famine/unrest abroad, if not here. I tend not to believe they will TRY to go there but some of their most diabolical elements seem to want scorched earth and a merciless destruction of the opponents they hate (We the People front and center). I say “try” because that is probably as far as many will get to know (won’t be here to find out). Pray this does not take this dark path and if it is within our means, help folks from other nations that may become victims of the Deep State and their engineered food scarcity/inflation.
Importing the Turd World, by dropping the borders, offering them endless freebies, and destroying the economies and food growing capacity of their homelands, drives hordes here that will be happy to be the roving bands of murderous marauders that the Cabal needs to do the killing Americans won’t do.
That sounds like a good idea at first. It assumes the government will provide the freebies all throughout the potential crisis. But the thing is that the dollar and capacity of the government to “print” more may come to an end sooner than they plan. The new comers will be as much of a burden as anyone without roots, land and/or specific skills. If so, the hordes will HAVE to leave. It will not be safe for them–a very sad state of affairs. So your scenario assumes the Deep State is in power and is able to provide. But they may undo themselves provoking a crisis that flushes them out of power (at a minimum). Some here are optimistic, even to the point of believing you can VOTE the Deep State out of power. But the kind of people they are suggests they will not leave without been made to leave.
Can we trust ADM, CONAGRA, CARGILL, TYSON,MONSANTO, NPPC NCA etc. etc etc. to do the right thing amd insure that we as a country have plenty of grain and meat left in our country to consume??
Or will they SELL TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER FOR THE MAXPROFIT LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO????
IRREGARDLESS of the needs of our COUNTRY the USA
Plant your gardens folks, find a local source of food, get to know your farmer friends.
Is this a sign of the”end of times” where famine is predicted? Has more than one seal already been broken and the that Horsemen is now roaming the Earth?
If only a flying elephant had dropped a big turd on Joe’s Bidet instead of a tiny little bird.
one thing i have noticed here in n.w. iowa is alot more fields going to pasture.
Many farmers, probably most big operators, borrow to buy seed, fertilizer, fuel, chemicals, higher priced inputs bought with higher rate loans, what could go wrong? Rented land prices up, new and used machinery prices up too. Older non computerized farm machinery that is in good condition is like gold these days. Stupid wastes like fuel ethanol, urea wasted for diesel exhaust fluid add to our collective misery.
What we should be doing is unleashing our natural gas production as the USA has the 4th largest proven reserves in the world.
This would allow us to:
Cheaply and efficiently convert existing petroleum vehicles over to natural gas which burns 90% cleaner with only a 12-15% horsepower sacrifice.
Start mass producing two key nitrogen based fertilizers – ammonia and urea.
Further migrate away from coal as a source of energy.
Of course, everything is Russia’s fault, don’t you know, not the WEF policies that have been shoved down our throats under the Climate Change scam. ‘Russia MUST release all the exports they are holding!!!’ Really? What about all the exports from Brazil, South Africa, India, China and others who also stopped them?? No, all these shills see is just Russia somehow being solely responsible for causing the pre-planned global catastrophe. This is getting so ridiculous, more apparent than even the machinations behind the Covid plandemic.
And those ‘overeducated dumb people’ who do not want to accept scientists playing god and popping out monster species spliced from who knows what and for what purpose, which are in turn destroying the natural environment and our own DNA, are in their view the problem? Because ‘science’ works so great, as has been demonstrated with the mRNA vaxx technology. /s
‘We don’t need to grow plants to make the stuff we need to consume’
‘We can just synthesize the calories we need in an industrial synthesizer’
‘We can PRINT all the food we need’
Here, in a nutshell, is the WEF’s and UN’s ‘Farm to Fork’ agenda for the Global Reset, and the gaggle of overeducated dumb people who are pushing it under the guise of good intentions.
And Zhou Biden’s EPA is just adding to the fun. They just authorized the sale of gas during summer months with 15% ethanol to ‘reduce gas prices’… more corn off the market.
I’m glad we’re finally defining it as a government vs trying to blame just a party.
There is no benevolence to be found in either side of this progressive sham.
Okay, we won’t starve in the USA.
But tens of millions of starving people will “somehow” (Soros/NGO $$) find their way to Mexico, where they will walk across the open border to pick up their Biden Phone, loaded cash card, and a bus or plane ticket to your town.
Already happening. Eastern TN is being filled up with this trash. Available housing, when it can be found, is being priced out of range for all but the very very wealthy, or the welfare Section-8 crowd.
There is a “Children’s Home” nearby that receives busloads of “new arrivals needing help” every couple of weeks; none of whom look like children. Shortly after President mashed potato fled Afghanistan I saw a bus pull up to this same “children’s home” while waiting at the stoplight. Every one who stepped off that bus were Middle Eastern adults; some in burkas, many of them hugely pregnant. ALL of the males were prime fighting age.
At the business I run, I routinely see EBT balances on the receipt (after a couple hundred dollar purchase) in the $2000 plus range. They all have smartphones, name brand clean clothes and name brand shoes, the women carry Coach purses.
They also steal anything they can put their hands on with impunity, crap on the floor in the public bathrooms, and treat my employees with unbelievable rudeness.
Refugees my fat ass. They’re lazy insolent economic migrants looking for the path of least resistance. And Potato Head plans to hand it all over to them.