Fox News correspondent Steve Harrigan returns from Ukraine with a somber message about the situation and likely future. Harrigan notes that Russian victory in Ukraine is a foregone conclusion – Ukraine will be flattened if needed. However, that outcome comes at a serious cost.
The war inside Ukraine will wage on for years as an insurgency against Vladimir Putin. The western alliance will spend trillions if needed. NATO will kill as many Ukrainians and mercenary units as needed in order to battle Vladimir Putin in a proxy war. The industrial war machine will gleefully churn out the material needed for the DC based political war machine to purchase. First, WATCH:
https://youtu.be/v8zi6cx6pAw
Harrigan is correct, however, he missed the biggest tell-tale sign of all. Where are the peacekeepers? Where are the diplomatic voices, the ranks of the prudent and pragmatic political voices who focus on stopping the death? Where are those voices? Where is the faith-based voice asking for leaders to stop, breathe, meet and seek a solution without further war?
Those voices are silent because the western motive is to create a long-term insurgent war in Ukraine. The geopolitical system views this as an existential battle against Russia. Both sides in this conflict view this as a zero-sum contest. The NATO alliance doesn’t view Volodymyr as a hero, he’s a tool.
If Zelenskyy were to walk toward a negotiated ceasefire, the bullet that kills him would come from the rear. That’s how corrupt this conflict is.
Sundance sums up the whole tragic,sordid affair with his last two sentences .
Does anyone here trust a “Fox News correspondent” any more than the trust the “CNN Clown Car”? I’m pretty sure that if you’re not on the ground in the Ukraine you know the same as I do. Dick. All we get is disinformation in the West. You have to have enough common sense to realize that someone that has lied to you for over 2 years about a “pandemic” is not going to turn around and start telling you the truth while they’re trying to promote war in Ukraine.
Seemed pretty excitable whilst spouting the same largely disproven talking points as the rest of the MarxMerdia.
My thoughts too. FAUX News cannot be trusted.
Them, and Newsmax and OANN. Have you listened to their coverage the past 2 weeks? I mean it’s just off the charts propaganda. Honestly, I don’t trust one legacy or traditional news channel. People the Bannon with the War Room can be trusted infinitely more than the MSM muppets (incl our own “conservative” channels.
Ditto. The Information Age seems to have entered a sort of new stage, with legacy media of every type (print, tv, radio etc) coordinating their propaganda.
Nope they cannot… I just saw whatshisface on there spouting kindergarten level propaganda about eeeevvviiiillll Putin killing at random, and prolly clubbing the baby seals.
Back in the late 1980s, a lawschool classmate had a t-shirt that read ‘Nuke a Godless, Communist, gay baby seal.’ I had a good laugh over that one.
NO, Double NO!
Of course not…
Exactly right!
I listen to Carlson on Fox and then Fox has a map showing positions of Russian troops and activity. I will watch for it, assuming Griffin is providing the data points from the Pentagon. Russia has steadily gained ground. Fox has had on a retired Col Paul McGregor who I think has given honest analyses. But McGregor has been under heavy attack. Last I saw of him was last week. In short summation, Ukraine’s military feel apart fairly quickly. There is no central command, just pockets of fighters. I haven’t seen any commanders giving any kind of update so I assume those that remain are fighting. There are some videos on RT on Rumble of the reporter showing the Naval Base and another Ukrainian military group that seems to have just totally abandoned the fight and deserted their posts, doing no damage in their exit. McGregor says Putin is targeting the military, doing the least amount of damage he can to cities, but the Ukrainian fighters are in pocketed groups within the apartment buildings, hospitals etc providing the resistance. A video this morning showed rescuers helping a Ukrainian soldier climb out of the rubble of a building but then they turned around and said he was helping the rescuers. I bet not.
Sundance has posted articles and clips of MacGregor here.
Interesting point Anonymous.
And nothing is ever simple when it comes to Eastern European politics.
That place is as much of a mess as the Middle East.
If you are not sure who you should support ………….the Russians asked that Ukrain does not join Nato and has no more US weapons in the country…… not a big thing to ask…and…could have saved so many lives …but….because they listened to the USA….Kiev will be flattened..no doubt!
We also promised not to ever add one inch of territory to NATO, in 1990!
I have heard all the history, and watched it play out.
And I agree with the assesment that expanding NATO was foolish.
However, O don’t need to know that, OR get bogged down in trying to sort disinfo from disinfo.
All I have to do is look at all the players in the united “Putin bad” team, and they are,EXACTLY the same “Covid bad” and “Trump bad” team.
THAT makes it easy; whatever THEY are for, I am agin!
And all the “conservative” commentators, or anyone else won’t move me one iota.
I will support “Ukraine” right after I take the jab, and vote for Romney, which is sometime after I am dead.
All one has to know is that 1) Ukraine gave the Clinton Foundation $10 million and 2) Obama, Biden, Clinton, Klaus Schwab, Soros and too many members of the US Congress support Ukraine.
In good faith, we need to support the opposite outcome.
It is not a good situation or an easy one to figure out.
The Ukraine has been a naughty playground for American politicians for many years if not decades and their “President” is a has been actor/comedian that use to appear nude with only a guitar covering his privates while singing stupid songs.
On the other hand Putin is old KGB and probably a stone cold killer so who knows.
No one in this situation is nice an innocent except maybe the citizens of Russia and the Ukraine who must do the fighting and the suffering, as usual.
One thing, like you say Amjean, is for us to never trust our political leaders.
They are liars and selfish crooks and will surely lead us the wrong way.
For our own countries survival we need to do the opposite of whatever they want to do.
György Schwartz is pushing the save Ukraine mob is all I need to know.
György Schwartz and the USA on the same side sickens me.
And George Bush was CIA-same thing as KGB.
Putin graduated Law School before he was recruited by KGB.
Doesn’t mean Putin is killer.
Doesn’t mean Bush was killer.
this reason why VVP want move NATO forces to 1997 borders.
Totally agree. The politicians are using the citizens as pawns in their war against Russia. Dead citizens make for great drama on TV.
Citizens are always pawns of politicians in corrupt government power struggles.
“The war inside Ukraine will wage on for years as an insurgency against Vladimir Putin.”
This is the conventional wisdom surfacing among the conventional minds which litter all forms of media..
Whats sad about it is this, and like minded journalists, are investing in the idea of an insurgency in the Ukraine. And, to save their reputations, these journalists will do everything in their power to ensure their reporting, regardless of facts, conforms to and promotes that template. Their reputation is at stake, that means their job is at stake, that means their paycheck is at stake.
I believe Putin knows the role of PR in a war. And that he will outwit the witless conventional minds.
Every single mouth foaming Fox Anchor should go walk their talk on the front lines. Let those tough guys like Roosterhead go pick up a Kalashnikov and start “warrioring”. Time for Hannity to REALLY earn some blue collar cred, eh?
I don’t believe that there will be years of insurgency, Putin will leave Ukraine as soon as he’s done.
I am praying that he overtakes the country soon. No more contributions for Hillary and the Clinton Foundation.
The USA has no moral high ground to stand on after what we did in Iraqi to their civilians.
Spare me any excuses, we have none.
See “Shock and Awe” video of Iraq/Gulf War Two where [Civilian] Baghdad is under hellacious bombardment.
From the Epoch Times (Andrew Davies) –
While Western outrage and concern at the human misery now being inflicted is understandable, at the same time, it’s hypocritical. America and coalition forces were once the aggressors that invaded Iraq in 2003 under the false pretext that it had weapons of mass destruction (WMD).
According to a Lancet study, that war led to about 655,000 deaths from March 2003 to June 2006, and the regional destabilization it created eventually allowed the terrorist group ISIS to establish its bloody caliphate, bringing the death toll much, much higher.
To justify that invasion, then-British Prime Minister Tony Blair stood up in Parliament and falsely told MPs that Iraq could deploy WMDs that could target British bases in Cyprus within 45 minutes. His sole proof turned out to be a plagiarized “dodgy dossier.”
That was a lot of deaths on the off-chance that Saddam Hussein might have a weapon. And there was no intelligence to say he was going to use it—how could there have been as no WMDs were ever found in Iraq, whereas, Zelensky has admitted to the world his plans to site them in Ukraine and aim them in Russia’s direction.
Today, there are many calls for Putin to be tried for war crimes, yet the architects of the invasion of Iraq received no sanction over the deaths they caused there. Indeed, “Sir” Tony Blair just received the highest level of knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II.
Queen Elizabeth somehow managed to receive Trudeau recently also; her smile beaming broadley. Who in the British government told a 95 year old who “has trouble with mobility” to be the puppet for that photo op?
Yes! I agree.
Hypocrisy is off the charts.
Drives me nuts to see untruths no matter the reason The yellow cake dossier was legitimate because it could be used for a dirty bomb. The press twisted the story at the time. The actual report right or wrong was created by real intelligence not politics.
And a few tons of wmd were found in Iraq-old stuff but found. These are facts. Look up the wmd. Even the NYTimes admitted and wrote a story on it. Truths within lies. That’s how the deep state works. Not the reason we went to Iraq of course. But truth none the less. Sadam was ready to take euros for oil. The corporate officers of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA couldn’t let that happen.
The only excuse we have is that it’s not really us. We’re being used by the Davosauros, for reasons that have yet to surface for sure.
My guess is that the goal is to bring Europe, and then us under control. We have both been made energy poor. Europe is largely dependent upon Putin’s supply, and this is now being yanked away from them. The feed and fertilizer they need to feed themselves is being cut off as well, and Bill Gates is now the largest owner of farmland in the US. Can a modern Holodomor be far behind?
Meanwhile, Poland and Hungary are doing the bulk of the work for the refugees from this war that Soros, Obama, and the CIA set up, and they’re now being sanctioned by the EU for not being adequately on board with child sacrifice and sexual perversion.
Seems like our hope is in the name of the Lord, who made heaven and earth. Maybe also with a little help from our friends, reliably identified by noting who and what the prevailing narrative demonizes.
Seems to me that if the elite want to violate the rule of law then it doesn’t matter how much land Gates owns. He is gonna have to ride a posse on that land to control it.
Agree except w/the “we” . . . we were never included in the ‘war room’ decisions.
Not just Iraq. Look at what we did to Libya and in Syria. We still occupy Syria territory and take their oil. The moral high ground being played is the most absurd revolting thing to me.
We should take the stance of Theodore Roosevelt: “Walk softly and carry a big stick.” And, otherwise stay out of every conflict that does not directly threaten our country. Wars serve the interests of the big power players of the world, and are otherwise an abomination devoutly to be avoided. It’s a waste of citizens blood and treasure — and for what/whom?
…and Syrians by the proxy and Lybians……
And NATO and their lust for war is rubbing their hands together. its all part of the global agenda.
Sorry, NATO is a non entity. They don’t even pay their way. NATO is an anachronism from the Cold War.
And those countries never want a war again. They’ve had enough. They just want the assurance that if they are attacked we are bound to jump in and save them, again…
Most Europeans that lived the horrors of war are dead and the younger politicians pay these people no mind
Senator Klobuchar is still calling for the US to send planes to Poland.
I guess they want to start WW3.
https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/598031-klobuchar-says-dont-rule-out-sending-us-fighter-planes-to-poland
The Ukraine money must not be flowing well. No wonder Lindsey Graham wants Putin assassinated. Amy wants another run at the presidency??
Let the great senator grab a rifle and man the post!
The woman is an intellectual midget.
Unfortunately, there are many.
calling from the comfort of her warm and cozy couch. Its all well and good as long as the dust doesnt come through her window.
Sen. Klobuchar does not have clean hands. The delightful trio, Sen. McCain, Graham and Klobuchar were all in with the former Ukrainian President Porochenko, installed by team Obama. Graham predicated a Russian / Ukrainian war with Ukraine winning the war.
Lots of American taxpayer monies went to the Ukrainian Government and then back into the pockets of American politicians. (The Clinton Foundation, the Biden family, Pelosi and Romney sons, etc.).
What is Amy Klobuchar hiding? Kickbacks?
Thank you!
She traveled with McCain and Ms. Lindsey on their trips to Ukraine.
Biden basically invited putin into Ukraine.
Biden’s handlers want conflict and resultant arms sales and laundering opportunities.
Putin wants conflict and conquest.
Plus showing putin to be our enemy, plays into the Dems and intel branch’s defense against Durham and trump accusations. As in, ‘see, putin is evil. We thought and heck we still think trump is bought by putin. National security interest required us to spy on trump’.
When this first started heating up recently in the media, I suspected that the goal was to find another Afghanistan to be bogged down in for decades. It’s starting to look like that is indeed the case. One thing that really annoyed me was how the GOP almost instantly started putting out a message to the effect of “see, Romney was right in 2012.” It didn’t catch on with the base, thankfully, and it simply wrong. Romney was wrong in 2012 and the GOP establishment is wrong now. Russia isn’t our biggest concern-China is, and it should have been in 2012 too.
take the heat off of China, destroy Ukraine, hmmmm Biden has big secrets in both places…
Agree on your points.
Also, our own “Republicans” want the war, welcome a bipartisan push for war, & are not concerned about voter fraud since they think they’ll win big in November no matter what happens.
We have foreign enemies & a formidable Russian-China axis w/satellite countries. But Republicans are going to be our biggest enemy IF THEY ARE NOT AMERICA FIRST. Because anything else is pure communism, IMHAO.
The miscreants in congress probably think that if the repubs win big in the midterms, that we rube citizens
will forget all about voter fraud.
I disagree. The biggest threat to my and my family’s future are the corporate officers of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and the foreign entity that resides in Washington DC
Democrats want to escalate this to shore up eroding support for former Vice President Biden. They mistakenly think Americans will rally round a “leader” and his party engaged in war, as they have historically.. This will only get worse. Desperation, thy name is Nov. 8.
No one is behind FJBand his creepy administration. He doesn’t inspire that kind of reaction in anyone.
Same take here. No one is going to rally around the Senile Demented Vegetable and his “administration” of freaks, weirdos, scumbags and losers.
What are the American taxpayers willing to spend to prop up a puppet vassal State in Ukraine? How much nepotism must the US taxpayer fund?
seems as though 10 years ago we had the chance to make Russia an ally not a foe? What went wrong? I assume our vaunted 17 Intelligence agencies cannot function without some axis of evil to battle?
Giddy up Armageddon … right?
He neglected to mention that there were TWO Chechen wars. After the first limited one, the government informed rebellious towns that they would be spared if they stopped and returned to normal life. They were told if they went back to their islamist takeover, their towns would be eliminated.
Some returned to rebellion, secretly backed by the west, and thats why they were flattened.
Russia is hard nosed pragmatism imcarnate. They never bluff.
Telling it like it is was and ever shall be till the Lord Jesus comes back.
Zelenskyy is gone no matter what. 🙄
Last week Blinken made comments about Zelenskyy. These comments sounded just like the comments you hear when rumors are saying, that someone will be gone.
How many elected Rs and Ds and their families will benefit financially from this war? Ukraine is where they launder their money. We send them tons of money in “aid” and it gets laundered back to the corrupt US politicians and their families on both sides of the aisle.
These crooks also need the war to cover their crimes.
Kinzinger Cheney Biden Graham McConnell Pelosi Schumer Warner…….
Klobuchar
It’s the globalist gravy train. Billions of US dollars in aid will go there and disappear into the Clinton foundation and the Biden crime family, as well as all members of Congress, because probably 98% are corrupt. Better odds at surviving the coof.
Dead on Sundance. This is just our war against Russia seeking to take Putin out so our oligarchs can get in there and steal what wealth they have.
Well….there are some scary looking names of just the parties that ran against Putin in their last Presidential election….
“… The bullet that kills him would come from the rear.” Only God can deal with such evil. and I don’t believe the deep state is going to get nearly as far as they think they are this time.
And when Russia has been weakened, and Putin gone, we will spend $$$$$ helping the post Putin Russia rebuild.
build back better!
Sorry … only “certified” 2sLGBTQq+/- contractors need apply. I hear Megan Rapinhoe is going into the construction business.
They will just hold another Presidential election…
And who knows what the people would vote for.
The corrupt Oligarchs that Putin managed to throw out of Russia..quite a few…would love nothing more than return to Russia.
This was billed as Fox news but was actually Fox propaganda.
As far as I could see the only true remark was that Ukraine is going to have to surrender.
Ukraine will not join NATO. Ukraine will agree that the Crimea has always been and is still part of Russia. The Donetsk and Luhansk area will be independent states.
This will ensure that no nuclear missiles will easily reach into Russia.
If you think of the Ukraine as Mexico or Canada, what would the US do if some organisation had plans to put lethal nuclear weapons in the country right next store?
Also, it is specious to keep referring to “Putin, Putin, Putin” as if he was the only one in the entire country making decisions. The entire government of Russia is involved in this incursion. When polled, 76% of the Russian people approve of Mr. Putin. I do not think any of them are thinking of Peter the Great.
Maybe the Russians will build a 40 meter high wall (like the Israelis have) dividing the part of the Ukraine which has always been Russia from the western parts which used to be Poland, Hungary or Austria/Hungary or some other country.
Here, here!
What did we do during the Cold War when Russia put missiles in Cuba?
Same thing.
This is the kind of war the deep state love.
One where the deplorables go a die in a performative empire where we lose.
dont forget, there are thousands of deep state types from previous generation whose careers were predicated on russia expertise. they studied russian, dissected the inner workings of the kremlin etc..bringing back russia as enemy number 1 will be great for the later parts of their careers
As soon as Stevie dropped the F-word on Vlad, his credibility took a nosedive for me. Putin is an authoritarian and a thug but he’s not a fascist.
…btw VVP is former spymaster ,lawyer and love judo…and he apply all 3 in this incursion…he is not authoritarian…he would not last in his high position in the russian politics for 23 yrs…call him thug . dictator russian ppl like him….same like if not even more than american public PDJT ….
“The war inside Ukraine will wage on for years as an insurgency against Vladimir Putin. The western alliance will spend trillions if needed. NATO will kill as many Ukrainians and mercenary units as needed in order to battle Vladimir Putin in a proxy war. The industrial war machine will gleefully churn out the material needed for the DC based political war machine to purchase. “
Is the proxy war, a last minute fix, to cover for the COVID-19 bioweapon release. If this is so, then the alliance will quickly be out of time and the value of the proxy war will diminish. Two recent reveals concerning the COVID-19 virus and mRNA vaccine seems to suggest that it was a bioweapon.
Three complete morons! Trying so hard to show us how smart they are. And too convince us this course of action is the right one.
Who wins?
The Military Industrial Complex of this world, the US and Russian complex wins big. Build more weapons and us them up in Ukraine and hire more people to build more. My question, do they want the whole world to look like Ukraine in the coming years? That is the real question.
No one will care if they pull an Afghanistan in Ukraine, as long as it does not come to their door. All those that scream and yell peace peace no more war will do just that, but God forbid it interrupts their Saturday afternoon BBQ. A good number may be doing very well because of the on going destruction and not even know they contribute to that destruction. The MIC has a big footprint on the economy. And the Satanic death cult can satisfy their blood lust!
I don’t think so…Russia will abandon the non-Russian Ukraine, and there won’t be many suckers trying to crack the defenses of the Russian zone…certainly not this guy, former SF, after a bad experience…https://voxday.net/2022/03/14/youre-the-insurgent-now/
It’s “Geopolitical Shenanigans 2022”, a remake of that 2003 classic. Starring:
Ukraine as “Iraq”
Vladimir Putin as “W”
Russia as “The US”
Ukranian insurgents as “disgruntled jihadis”
Innocent Ukranian citizens as “collateral damage”
and… the MIC with all its connected players getting filthy rich, reprising its role as “the MIC with all its connected players getting filthy rich”
https://me.me/i/my-name-is-jacob-rothschild-my-family-is-worth-500-4688113
We really need to see an organization chart for the deep, deep state players, who always manage to remain in the shadows. — those “gods” of the planet earth who manipulate our lives and control our destiny. Isn’t any one else curious at least curious?
They do exist, look into people from the British Royal family who live here and are often around the liberal Supreme Justices. You will find your answer there, then follow the trails to the others… they look all innocent, like someone who could be your friend, yet you see them with Pelosi and everyone else who is causing problems here and abroad. They also get their younger generations to campaign for HRC, and other Liberal democrats…. because these Democrats are their double agents, witting or unwitting. They are not working for the best interest of the American People.
The only ones I’m aware of are the Rockefeller bankers and politicians who have loomed large in this country for decades. Those whose names seemingly cannot be mentioned, except in subtle asides, are the Rothschilds, probably the most intriguing.
https://worldcrimesyndicate.blogspot.com/?view=classic
Every last one of them..that you have never heard of..what realm of crime they control, what covens, societies, knighthoods they work with or control. And their photographs..so they aren’t just a name in a write up somewhere..They all look so squeaky clean upper crust. Bunch of rotten crooks.
The hubris and arrogance of the NWO elites is off the charts.
The West does not understand the Ukrainian people. And they understand the Russian people even less.
This will be Russia’s peace to lose. And they are not communists anymore.
“Harrigan notes that Russian victory in Ukraine is a foregone conclusion”
That was clear early on to anyone not believing the Fake News. Harrington continues the media practice in coverage of this “War on Ukraine” of not discussing Russia’s objectives even though it’s clearly stated them — a neutral, demilitarized Ukraine.
I get your caveats but I would not have included the following in your post, “Harrigan is correct . . .”
This latest narrative is a modified limit hangout. It’s time to begin letting down those they snookered into believing Russia might lose or have to sue for peace.
I will also point out that while it always seems like the propaganda and announced plans out of the USG are oriented toward the future — e.g. an insurgency against Putin, don’t discount the backward looking self-protective rationales as not only present but probably driving policy and words.
Ukraine is a corrupt, hot mess courtesy of the UniParty. Nothing is more a threat to them at this moment than an end to the hostilities and accommodation of Russia’s security needs. In other words, peace and common sense breaking out.
Thus the UniParty wants and has been goading Russia to take all of Ukraine. Whereas Russia would prefer for a variety of reasons to leave a rump Ukraine in the West (Kiev to Lviv) with Zelenskyy in charge. It clearly won’t stop until it has taken and cleared of Nazis the East on its border, and all across the South to the Southeast to Odessa and creating a land bridge to Transnistria (that’s was Harrington kept mentioning Moldova. Transnistria is a longstanding separatist province of Moldova that the US and NATO started quietly carrying out a siege against in recent months, with both Ukraine and Moldova cutting it off.
By the way, a word to the wise. Russia is applying its Syria model, not the Second Chechen War. Suffice it to way, the Ukrainians aren’t Chechens. Russia has 90% of the Ukrainian military surrounded and in what it calls a Cauldron. The fighters will be offered the chance to throw down there weapons and exit via a humanitarian corridor or face liquidation.
I won’t be surprised if, after achieving the objectives I outlined above, Russia keeps Kiev under a siege, in other words doesn’t shell it and allows food and other necessities in, for as long as it takes for them to call it a day.
Also, it’s going unmentioned on the Fake News but The Second Chechen War doesn’t stand for how modern Russia wages war but the price that a resurgent Russia will pay if necessary to reacquire its security imperatives — 15K Russians soldiers died.
That was a clear message to the knuckleheads in the West claiming that the Russians that lost 27M defeating the Nazis were no more.
When faced with a Hobbesian choice–that of really bad or worse–sometimes there is another choice. Although equally as bad, it allows the chooser the ability to pick his fate.
If Putin is looking at a crippling, or even regime threatening (ending?) war intentionally prolonged by the West, he could very easily decide that if Russia (and himself) is to lose, then it will be on HIS terms.
So…
In my best Rod Serling lead……Imagine if you will, a megalomaniac authoritarian who seeks to unite fragments and pieces of his country that has been fractured by forces he has utter contempt for. Consider this tyrant desperate, ambitious and utterly without pity–but also in control of World Ending weapons.
As this tyrant receives repeated intel that diminishes his objectives–and his options–he begins to consider other options. He becomes a rat, trapped, cornered–scared, but fierce and defiant. And this cornered rat begins to consider the unthinkable. What no believes can happen, suddenly happens. I give you, the Twilight Zone.
(NOTE: anyone familiar with this movie (The Thief) understands the meaning of this ending. If you haven’t seen it, watch it. You’ll understand. GREAT MOVIE)
Something ELSE the media is ignoring, and IMHO its a BIGGIE;
India seems to be aligning with RUSSIA.
India is a major “trading partner” with the U.S., LOTS of economic ties.
India is in a low grade war with Pakistan and has had border fighting with China.
And yet, in the Ukraine vs Putin made up war, they are siding with Russia, that is aligning with CHINA, and China aligns with Pakistan.
India was also not 100 percent “on board” with the Covid hoax. THEY passed out those packets in that province, that eliminated Covid in two weeks, AND WERE PRESSURED not to disclose the ingredients.
Dr Malone had a colluegue send him a picture if the label, in order to confirm it included Ivermectin.
While India complied, under pressure to suppress the info, did THIS cause a red-pill moment for Indias leadership, realising suppressing this info was increasing worldwide deaths?
And, what pressures were brought to bear? Was India threatened with being frozen out of the financial system?
This certainly is the kind of think that might cause India to seriously consider a major realighnment.
In any case, SOMETHING has triggered this, it IS a major geopolitical realighnment of the most populous country, largest democracy, etc.
In other words “its a BIG F’ing DEAL!” and yet, from msm,…bupkus.
India is negotiating a “discount deal” for oil with Russia.
Plus, Comrade Obama’s team is ready to relight Arab Spring 2.0, which will spook India who has Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Of course Biden’s puppeteers want to jettison India….Our increasingly close trading relationship with them is great for America, and was helping us to pressure the CCP, ergo….
Covid is definitely a factor in India’s decision making. Wrath from the Branch Covidians for not exclusively going vax. Big Pharma didn’t want India to do any independent testing of vax. Remember that Trump visited India and Prime Minister Modi liked President Trump. Modi saw what subsequently happened and it didn’t inspire trust with the US.
@ Duchman, Russia is offering a 25-27% discount on oil (Ural distillate), and, India also wants discounted commodities, such as potash (fertilizers), and Russia will offer them in an exclusive Ruble-Rupee deal. This excludes the $ transactions, and though only 2-3% of India’s oil imports are currently from Russia, this deal could make a material change there. India is facing an excess of $50B/month with Oil and gas price (and coal) price increases. This is their key motive.
As West shuns Moscow, officials say India eyes more cheap Russian oil | Reuters
India has a long (and complicated) relationship with Russia, though generally friendly. The US has a hot and cold relationship for ~ 70 years. It was truly awesome with VSG PDJT; a bit of a boost under GWB too, but has been bad whenever a Dem was POTUS here. The Indians are NOT aligning with China, and using this point, the Indo-US relationship can strengthen, however, to be fruitful to all, may need PDJT back in the WH. Thank you.
If India is sanctioned I might have to go there in person to get my Royal Enfield!
The insurgency the US wants to start exceeds the Ukraine.
The Russians already have a marginal territorial victory at this point, which may be deemed to be enough vs the cost of an insurgency; especially a multi-front insurgency after the US lights up Arab Spring 2.0 from Qatar.
There will be an attempt to heat up Islamic Insurgency in the Republics around Russia (e.g. Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, etc.) as a new Arab Spring 2.0. That is the reason for the MSM broadcasting mosques being hit. Also, Qatar is now set up as the staging point for the flow of support BACK through the Trillions of Dollars in Infrastructure and “left behind” Americans in Afghanistan. The Muslim Brother has been established in Qatar and Afghanistan to restart operations.
“However, what about Putin?”
What about an actually-cognizant “head of state” who has somehow managed to remain at “the head of his state” for more than twenty years? Perhaps because he is smarter than the rest of them?!?!
Meanwhile, people are also getting slaughtered in Yemen in another proxy war of the West. Do we hear a peep about that? Not hardly. But we are all supposed to be outraged by war in a part of the world no one otherwise cares about, except for all our covert and corrupt assets being destroyed. This whole thing smells like recycled Gulf War propaganda.
This is a worthless Talking Heads “interview”. No one talking has anything to offer that is factual.
The NATO alliance doesn’t view Volodymyr as a hero, he’s a Fool!
Flashback
Chris Wallace being Chris Wallace and prejudices not candid enough for Putin. Always the accusatory tones in what aren’t questions but narratives – Putin will not play the game. Wallace proud he got to chalk down ‘interview with Putin’ as one only the few could. What a shallow show .. Oliver Stone and Putin are worth every episode that this ain’t. Though it does give some pretty clear insights of how Putin sees/ and thinks/rebuts .. the whole spectrum Wallace presented.
Putin dismisses claims of Russian interference in the 2016 election, says Russia would react negatively to the expansion of NATO, blames terrorists for civilian casualties in Syria.
The big game is in Eastern Ukraine/Donbass.
There is a force of 60,000 Ukrainian troops – the best troops the Ukraine army has -that are about to get surrounded.
They will presumably surrender in large numbers.
Once these Ukrainian troops are removed from the battlefield – either by surrendering or being killed – the nature of this whole conflict will change.
This is the great bulk of the Ukrainian army – on the verge of being surrounded.
Now you know why that 40km convoy just sat there for a week and Kyiev was surrounded but hardly touched by artillery fire or air attacks.
The REAL war is in the East for the Russian speaking regions. The convoy and other divisions threatening Kyiev are there to make sure Zelenskyy has to keep a substantial part of his army at or near Kiev to defend it in case Russia attacks it.
If your forces are tied up waiting for an attack, then they can’t be deployed to the east to help the other half of your army which is now surrounded and about to be butchered if they don’t surrender.
I think Ukraine is about to be broken into West and East halves just like Germany was after WW2. Eastern half Ukrainians will have the option to move west or stay. Ethnic Russians currently living in the western half will definitely move to the east.
Exactly right and I tend to agree with everything you’re saying.
If there was a smart Western Ukrainian he’d seize power in Lviv – immediately withdraw the 8 Western Ukrainian Oblasts from the conflict and declare independence from Kyiv.
If there such a smart Western Ukrainian????
Maybe there is…
I have only one solace, but a big one, re the DC Cartel vs Putin…. The people in DC are incompetent at everything except stealing elections and tax payer money, and so Putin methinks has a good solid chance to emerge from this on top.
“Those voices are silent because the western motive is to create a long-term insurgent war in Ukraine. The geopolitical system views this as an existential battle against Russia. Both sides in this conflict view this as a zero-sum contest. The NATO alliance doesn’t view Volodymyr as a hero, he’s a tool.
If Zelenskyy were to walk toward a negotiated ceasefire, the bullet that kills him would come from the rear. That’s how corrupt this conflict is.”
Couldn’t have been said it better myself. Not my problem!! Way too many people involved that have pissed down my back only to tell me it’s raining.
This is principally a depopulation program in the Donbass that both sides are in agreement on. They will be negotiating not peace, but how to divide the oil and gas resources.
The people are simply a terrible and unavoidable inconvenience.
Here is a perspective from Michael Matt from Remnant TV. https://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/5891-crisis-in-ukraine-what-s-really-going-on
Mr. Matt states: “You don’t have to approve of or defend Putin…., (but) Vladimir Putin stopped playing ball with the global elites and they set a trap for him in Ukraine and he stepped right in it. And here we are.” He discusses Soros’ involvement in Ukraine. A national security threat is what Putin called Soros when he banned him from Russia. “Bottom line is to make it clear there is much more than meets the eye.” “What we have learned in the past 2 years is: whatever we see on TV is a lie.”
I disagree with Harrigan.
The Russians have set up humanitarian corridors to allow regular Ukrainian troops to lay down their arms and go home. And the Ukrainians at the bargaining table are objecting to this. Now, why would they object?
Because pacifying the regular military exposes the real nut cases in this story, the NAZI radicals who the U.S. State Department has been backing, the Azov Battalion that McStain and Graham encouraged to make war in December 2016.
It is those guys who are going to fight to the death, not the Ukrainian regulars. The regulars come from homes fairly-to-robustly favorable to Russia and Russians, who they consider their cousins. The Azov Battalion has Zelenskyy at the end of a bayonet, and Putin will completely destroy them before he is through. Putin is being careful with Ukrainian citizens but he will shred the fanatics of the Azov Battalion.
Would the world and America be less crazy if Obama had not risen to power?
Ukraine is a George Soros colony and has been for 20 years. As such, there’s no hope for the country-zero. The entire US government is rooting for Soros’ colony. Ukraine doesn’t exist separate from him. He was the official planner of the violent 2014 US coup of Ukraine’s elected government. He planned for two years, 2012-2014, gave office buildings, vehicles, bought journalists from all over the world. The entire US political class was fine with this. In 2014 after the coup, Soros remained in charge, shipping out US Ambassador to Ukraine to another country after he told Soros that federalism was a good idea for Donbass. It’s Soros who insists on daily shooting of civilians in Donbass. As most know, his specialty is raping fragile and defenseless populations. This isn’t about Russia or even Ukraine. The US is entering year #3 of “emergency government,” meaning we’re operating as a dictatorship. I haven’t heard “Republicans” demanding return to normal government.
When I hear the lust for endless war from the propaganda outlets I think of Prince Farquaad in Shrek saying “I know some of you may die but that’s a price I’m willing to pay”. I think it’s absolutely disgusting that we started this war and now we’re pouring arms into a war the Ukrainians have no chance of winning. There’s a path to peace. It may not be what the Ukraine wants but they’re going to lose and it’s just a matter of how total that loss will be. A country cut up and forced live in neutrality sounds much better than a country totally destroyed and most of the population dead , homeless , or refugees in another country.
It’s not impossible that I would end up in Russia’s Far East … maybe Vladivostok ? Anyone here have any connections there?
It used to be “War is good for business.” Now, it seems to have morphed into “War is good business.”
Churches who are taking sides in this. Pray for Ukraine….
NOT a good thing.
Pray for peace…….
Same thing re COOTIE-19.
They already showed you what they were over the last 2 years.
Unwatchable.
The fat solemn looking one in the BV and helmet was all trussed up with nowhere to go. His producer didn’t even have the common decency to wheel him out to a burnt car/ building for appearances. It’s all performative, as opposed to informative.
Expecting any type of smart reasoned discussion from these wretched creatures = waste of time.
Gaslighting doesn’t pay the bills, your rent/mortgage, or fill up your gas tank.
Agreed.
I agree. Almost everything he says was complete garbage. And then they said that Putin would not stop with Ukraine, but would move onto Moldova. It is almost as if the Satanic media, and our politicians, are trying to get us into a war with Russia. Do they want complete nuclear annihilation of the earth?! I just don’t get it.