Last weekend, U.S secretary of State Anthony Blinken said Poland was in preparations to send their MIG fighter planes to Ukraine, and the U.S. would be replacing them. It was a stunning statement considering that Poland is a NATO ally, and Russia would certainly see this effort as increasing direct confrontation. However, a few hours later Poland issued a statement essentially refuting the claims by Secretary Blinken and saying they had no intent to send fighter jets into Ukraine. Essentially the government of Poland called Blinken a liar.
In a stunning exhibition of poor diplomacy, with very serious consequences, the State Department did not retract the weekend claims by Blinken. Instead, they doubled down saying that Poland was going to send fighter planes into Ukraine, which means NATO would be entering the conflict, which means U.S. forces would soon join the battle. Drawing the U.S. into the war looks like the intent of Blinken’s effort.
However, in a statement today, again highlighting they have no intent to trigger World War III (despite the best efforts of the U.S), Poland is calling Blinken’s bluff {SOURCE}. I screen captured it, because I do not want anyone to miss the direct framework of the Polish position:
Everything about that statement, including the headline, shouts that Poland is calling Anthony Blinken’s bluff.
Essentially, Poland is saying: “Bulls**t, on all of this. The U.S. is lying. We are not going to start World War III, but if you intend to – well, here’s the tools, you start the war.” It is a stunning statement, and a jaw-dropping situation.
The U.S. State Department is trying to use Poland to trigger a NATO war against Russia. Poland wants no part of that and is directly and specifically telling the world that Secretary of State Anthony Blinken is lying. Yet somehow, the media don’t report on this.
Here’s the previous stuff:
This is being portrayed by Ukrainians and the pro-Ukrainian MSM as proof that these MIGs are on their way to the Ukraine. There’s nothing to prevent the USA from sending these planes to the Ukraine, but it will be the USA doing that. Not Poland. And of course, the whole thing is predicated on the USA giving Poland new fighters.
As they are going to Ramstein, I wonder what the Germans think of this? We could see NordStream 1 shut down.
If they attack from Germany, Russia can retaliate to the airbase they launched from.
The good news is that Switzerland is not a member of NATO. Russia can attack WEF HQ which run all the NATO countries without fear of retaliation.
With the HQ wiped out, none of the NATO countries will know what to do.
hot potato
Poland: “Here ya go, Germany”
As I read it, we are going to give Poland F-16s from our used inventory. Aircraft being replaced by F-35s, I would guess. Over ten years ago I watched while Lockheed wound down F-16 production at Fort Worth. All the big machine tools were being dismantled and hauled away. Can we even build ONE new F-16 today?
I thought India was going to produce the F16?
https://gaadiwaadi.com/tata-to-produce-f-16-fighter-planes-in-india-564345/
I understand there is still a demand for that plane.
Still a demand. Yes. Bulgaria, Greece, Indonesia, Slovakia….
F-16 Fighting Falcon was all around the best jet fighter ever made, IMHO. First put into USAF operations in 1975, it’s not as awesome as the F-15 Eagle but a reliable and nimble platform that could deliver a wide array of ordnance…. for a price that didn’t kill the budget.
Has so many different configurations (more than 3,300 carriage and release configurations for greater than 180 weapon and store types) for different missions.. Excellent radar, avionics…
They’ve made over 4,600 of them. Now up to Block 70/72, making them in Greenville SC as of late 2019.
I love my lawn darts!
🎯😆
The “Thunderbirds” been flying F-16 since 1983
And flying well!
Lockheed does not have to do the work in Ft. Worth and has not for a long time.
FOREIGN countries are perfectly capable of doing the work.
Lockheed-PLZ in Poland handles F-16’s
Lockheed-Tusas in Turkey handles F-16’s
These are just two examples.
They’re being built today in South Carolina.
Yet another possibility.
Also, Boeing and Lockheed have also done Mig Updates. All sorts of fun stuff if the US pursues this wish sandwich out of pure lunatic pride.
It was a proposal that is not expected to be fulfilled. A cloudy mocking.
The Viper (F-16) is still in production (Greenville, SC).
I’m sorry, but “nothing to prevent”? Not the way it works. If this works as Poland says, the Migs are going to Ramstein AFB in Germany.
It is my understanding that Russia has declared that any NATO country that assist in providing air assets to the Ukraine will trigger kinetic retaliation, specifically airfield and runways. And in essence declaring that NATO, or any other nation is from there on involved in the conflict.
Do you think for a second that Germany is going to agree to that!!??
Our government has lost it. WE are to blame for what’s going on out there. There is such a thing as diplomacy. I guess that not the purpose anymore of the US Department of State…
Smell to high heaven of Hillary involved. She knows all the players in the USDofST intimately.
Its obvious that the Poles are not going to be involved in giving aid directly to the Ukraine.
JAS: “Smell to high heaven of Hillary”
Ouch!!! nose bleach… brain bleach… STAT!
I thought we gave all our good stuff to Afghanistan.
Hmmmm…. maybe that was the PLAN to leave all that gear there…
You think?
I just read elsewhere that Poland is sending its Migs to Ramstein in exchange for newer US models and that US wants to get the Migs to Ukraine. I hope this is wrong else WW3 creeps closer.
Please read the post before commenting. Thanks.
John Roberts reported just a litte while ago,
today this very thing. That Poland would send
the planes to Germany then they are not sure
who flies them to Kiev if NATO flies them there or if
Ukraine pilots goto Germany and fly them back..
John Roberts reported this like an hour ago
not saying it is true just what he said on the news..
Not that we would replace anything just that Poland
would send the planes to Rhamstead(SP)
He also said not sure what Putin reaction would be.
State Dept sends their press releases to the cable companies. This may have been sent by DoS prior to the Polish reply.
Please read the post.
https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine
From the website of the Polish minister of fore
Ifn affairs:
The authorities of the Republic of Poland, after consultations between the President and the Government, are ready to deploy – immediately and free of charge – all their MIG-29 jets to the Ramstein Air Base and place them at the disposal of the Government of the United States of America.
At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities. Poland is ready to immediately establish the conditions of purchase of the planes.
The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein.e
As confused as we are on this site about this issue – can the Russians be any less confused?
Will we be just as dead if we die in a nuclear holocaust brought on by a misunderstanding.
To me Poland’s statement is not confusing.
I’m not confused! And the Russians are not confused… They KNOW what they are up against. They have been trying to prevent this. Our Western governments are run, and willingly I might add, by the World Economic Forum (WEF), formerly the New World Order (NWO). Greed is eternal.
Once that they made sure that President Trump was stopped they pulled out all their stops. Trump scared the living crap out of them.
There are a good number of world powers that are not going along with the WEF. The democrats have swallowed that blue pill all too willingly. And we are paying for it – literally – with our wallets.
Ya got to love the ironic humor in Poland’s play here. Think about it……Poland is offering to deliver Russian MIG 29 jets to Germany for the US’s disposal to fight Russia if the US wants to go that route.
Poland just handed the hot potato responsibility right back to the US and involved Germany as well.
It’s both a brilliant diplomatic play and a most humorous slap at the US for trying to force Poland to play the part of a puppet!
Bravo Poland!
This really was brilliant on Poland’s part. The US government thinks they are dealing with the Kielbasa Kid(if you don’t know look it up it’s entertaining). Polish government is chuckling. Russia government is belly laughing. US government are throwing staplers out of anger.
Excellent post!
Yaa, some get it.
Did you read the post?
smh
You are a kind, caring, and understanding person, SD. We are blessed to have you (and not me lol).
Read the article.
They offered such a deal, it is not actually happening.
Knowing that employing such a strategy puts the onus on the US to put their own thingy in the wringer, they well know it will never happen.
I am reading that the Poles are offering their MIGS to the USA in exchange for the F-16s
Yes, but are you reading Sundance’s post?
If so, there’s nothing else to add, except that the MarxMerdia is reporting the story without analysis or recognition that it is a well-deserved diplomatic troll, which Treepers recognize without rushing to read their crap.
Perzactly! They are doing exactly what President Trump did, making the country actually responsible for a move or decision responsible for that decision. If the US wants jets to fight Russia in Ukraine, then the US can send them instead of trying to hang Poland out as bait.
Exactly. Poles will give MIgs to USA in exchange for better American planes.
Poland isn’t going to play the proxy…..er patsy.
Can you comprendo?
Yeah … so Russian air defense systems can track them flying in all the way from Germany instead.
German and American pilots are no less fireproofed than Polish ones.
This story is so embarrassing to US diplomatic prowess, I don’t even know where to begin.
24hr rule applies.
Poland’s statement is a bit snarky. Wth is Ukraine going to do with handful of aging Migs? Did Russia bomb out all the airfields?
They’re not the worst planes you could be flying. This was basically the equivalent of F-16s or 15s back in the day. And we (and plenty of other countries) are still using them.
But what would it accomplish, other than starting WWIII?
Give the Russians some target practice while they starve and destroy Kiev?
It’s more like a classic Hornet but not as maneuverable (though) slightly more powerful.
It’s long in the tooth really.
Send Volodymyr a box of lawn darts if we’re funnin’ things along.
If they haven’t already they will IF this deal were ever to go through
They did indeed destroy the airfields, and durst not repair them lest they be destroyed harder I suspect.
The US Clowns want to fly out of Poland, they know what they actually proposed is simply unworkable.
It’s about creating a trigger and hoping to get someone else to stupidly pull it.
Madeleine Albright is just itching to get in the action – I can just hear her saying, “massing along the border”
in that sniveling arrogant tone of hers!
All you need is a sufficient length of straight highway, and you have a de facto runway anywhere you can get support vehicles into play. It’s the logistics of arming the plains on the fly, so to speak, that is the real hurdle.
Don’t forget maintenance….
“All you need is a sufficient length of straight highway…”
Doubtful.
At the very least, there’s a weight problem.
Mig is likely equivalent to a single axle highway weight limit which is around 22,000 lbs.
A mig 29 weighs 24,000 lbs. His descent rate makes him heavier when he touches down.
And of course the Russians have surveillance satellites as well.
They catch this buildup on a highway, someone’s gonna get a missile, up close and personal.
Those Migs will be flying from German territory (Ramstein). The US Air Force will need to provide the logistics for those planes to fly to the Ukraine, and fight in that airspace.
I don’t see that happening.
The USAF is not set up to maintain Russian built aircraft. No spares, no training. It’s all bullsh!t.
And what makes you think that our fighter jocks haven’t quietly cross trained on Russian equipment? But let’s assume that you’re right … the question then becomes who flies the MIG’s to the Ukraine, whence Ukrainian pilots would sortie the aircraft. Details, details, but have faith. You just know that Donner and Blitzen are on top of it.
Great point!!
Does ISIS have pilots to fly these in?
Someone forgot to tell Joe that he is not the President of Poland.
Maybe Joe confused Poland with Ukraine.
It is a vast left-wing conspiracy to win the hearts and minds of the Iranian people
/s/
You mean the ‘Uraniums’, don’t you?
The Whole World looks like Hazzard County…
Someone tell him that he’s the illegitimate President of the US.
The Ukraine was once occupied by Poland. Look up the History.
Part of Ukraine was once part of Poland before World War II. You look up the history.
Before WWII ?
How about more than 100 years before WWII.
Read about the partition of Poland which only became Poland again at the end of WWI.
Was Khazaria before that. Khazars still exist.
Mean MFers. It’s the Khazarian mafia that is destroying Ukraine. Now the US.
The Poles are not metrosexuals like the Biden clans.
The government of the United States has gone rogue, it is way past time to withdraw our consent. We must no longer participate in the completely corrupt system that has become the federal government. ALL of the three letter agencies must be abolished and we must has a return to a true federalist constitutional republic. The power must be returned to the states. I live in AZ and the federal government controls 65% of the land in AZ, this must end, its killing our state.
The government of the United States has gone rogue, it is way past time to withdraw our consent.
Agree 100%!!!
Our government is PURE EVIL–in addition to trying to kill off the American people with mRNA poison kill shots, they are deliberately trying to start WW3!!!
We are being ruled by psychopaths!!
Those psychopaths refer to themselves as globalists.
The govt goes further. To expedite its plans for globalism and control through transfer of wealth by deliberately crushing the middle class, it is in the territory of treason against the people of America. These are evil orcs who set out to destroy every last vestige of American culture and they are going to groom your children just to drive in the pain and humiliation.
“control through transfer of wealth by deliberately crushing the middle class”
That is exactly what the Federal Reserve has been doing for 2 decades.
Odd thing though…. the people who have all the Paper Wealth have no survival skills.
We need nukes and F16s or better. I am for withdrawing consent, but they keep withdrawing from my bank account.
Pro tip: Do not fly those MIG-29s into Ivan’s range.
Poland to Blinken, go Pound Sand! Is Blinken along with Biden and State blooming idiots?
Poland would get missiled into rubble if they did this.
“If I only had a brain!”
Blinken—-did he play the public defender in My Cousin Vinny?
That stuttering guy was really funny!
This gets more stupid by the moment, although I do admire Poland’s sense of humor.
It’s a great country, and the food is terrific, albeit a tad fattening.
Check this place out if ever in the SW Chicago suburbs neighborhood. Barrels of fresh kraut, hot lunch of every kind, sausage, pickles, meads, breads, coldcuts, and like 10 different kinds of perogies. Oh, and the meatballs are like candy.
https://www.celinasfreshmarket.com/super-deli/
Thanks, Mike. A 4.8 score on google with 500+ reviews is impressive, to say the least.
Now, about the restaurant scene in Krakow …
Da Bears.
and the best beer!!
The “best beer” is an out of body experience. It’s that first, long pull from an ice cold mug when you have dragged your sorry, sweat drenched cadaver out from under a blazing tropical sun somewhere along the Equator, and are on your knees genuflecting before the AC unit …
And when the wood is teak, wood-fired pizza is also an out-of-body experience. I have very fond memories of Cambodia.
Really miss the great Polish food in Connecticut (home to the Polish House in Hartford). The Roli Poli deli in New Britain serves hot Kielbasa and pierogi meals for lunch and their pastries are amazing. Of course if you are lucky enough to live in Chicago, there are Polish delis galore! Reminds me, I need to get back there…
Thank you, Poland.
Poland didn’t tell the defense department before issuing their statement.
Fair’s fair.
They told the world Poland would trigger their coveted war without consulting them first.
Thanks, Sundance, for the front row seats!
It’s not every day that you get to sucker punch the warmongers in DC. I truly hope that the Poles sleep well tonight.
If you go to Twitter, the morons on the Left are taking all this seriously! (BIG LOL)
Haha. So once again Blinken was just lying and throwing the BS around. And poland called him on it.
No thank you?
In spades.
What was Germany’s reaction?
Nein!
NEIN NEIN NEIN!!!
Just guessing.
I know nothing!
This is what happens when you conduct strategic military diplomacy via TV.
The only thing protecting this clown car US Government from its own people hoisting them from lamp posts is a doggishly lying corporate media that covers for them 24/7.
and of course, the fence.
And as we write, the headline, in big, bold red over at Yahoo news reads “Poland transferring all of its Soviet-era fighter jets to Ukraine.” The MSM is hard at it, although I’m not exactly sure what the “it” is in this case. We need Dan Rather to investigate this now!!!!
Blinky throwing Poland under the bus.
BREAKING: US Under Secretary of State Nuland says Poland’s decision to put its Mig-29 fighter jets at disposal of the US was not ‘pre-consulted’ with Washington
God I hate that women, Nuland.
johnnyfandango: I’m going to the doctor this afternoon for a pre-consultation. I received my pre-bill this morning. Naturally, I pre-paid the bill.
Reckless and dangerous children. They’re so crazy that they’d risk WW3 if they thought it would help them hold on to power! Well here’s your throne, it’s the one on that mountain of ashes and bones…..sheesh.
Outsmarted by Poland . . . Love it !
It needs to be spoken with the same derision Jerry used to address Newman in Seinfeld. “Hello, Nuland”
According to Victoria Nuland, before a NATO country , such as Poland, can make a statement the US State Departmemt must be consulted. Bow down baby, we rule
“Drawing the U.S. into the war, looks like intent of Blinken’s effort.” A pretty important part of the post. I believe it.
Now the US is threatening to cutoff Chinese companies who defy US restrictions on exports to Russia. So we kick the bear and spit at the tiger. Impressive diplomacy if you’re looking to pick a fight.
I have no love for Putin (Russian people seem OK), nor do I have any love for the belligerent China, built by the U.S. government and corporations, but it beggars the imagination to conceive of the backroom money skimmed by U.S. politicians from the Ukraine.
This has nothing to do with protecting the Ukrainian people and everything to do with protecting the U.S dirty politician shakedown operation in the Ukraine.
Unlike you, I am cool with Vlad.
These have to be old, worn-out aircraft with obsolete electronics. As someone above posted, don’t fly these with range of Ivan’s SAMs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-29#Poland
They literally got the idea from an episode of the west wing. The idiots in charge are basing foreign policy on episodes of the west wing. Good for Poland.
The Poles are not nearly as stupid as Biden had hoped. They offered their aircraft to NATO to depart from another country. Putin stated that where ever the planes originated from, the airfield in the country they flew from, and that country would be targeted for destruction. So the Poles said, ok, take them, fly them from somebody else’s airfield, we don’t want blown up. Bwaaaahahaha!
Poland wants no part of this indeed! The Polish government is trying to take itself out of Russia’s crosshairs by effectively and cleverly neutralizing its offensive aerial capabilities. This tells me that they are taking Putin’s very blunt warnings about the consequences of western interference in his Ukrainian operation quite seriously. No one wants to have their lunch interrupted by a tactical nuclear air burst directly over the presidential palace.
And do the Germans have anything to say about this?
I bet they’ll soon say a helluva lot.
Like maybe tell biden to take his migs and stick-um where the sun don’t shine.
I’d call this a beltway clown show except every now and then I remember that, in this comedy, someone has a finger on a nuk button.
Thank God for the Poles who don’t take orders from Washington/deep state! Like Yugoslavia when it’s all said and done Ukraine will be dissolved, broken into pieces as part of the settlement with Russia all because Zelensky took orders from Washington/deep state and didn’t listen to his fellow citizens before the war started!
We are going to have to create a whole new genre of Blinken jokes. The polish people continue to prove themselves completely undeserving of the jokes created at their expense.
Copernicus would certainly not have been amused by “Polock” jokes. The Poles are very smart, their women beautiful, and their food outstanding. Fun festive music too. And they know how to throw a helluva good party.
My wife thought their men were good looking. Lotsa blondes.
As long as the F-16’s are not too old, the Lockheed owned Polish Aerospace Company PLZ can bring them up to the latest version with no trouble.
Germany also has a few old Mig-29’s on the books and I am sure Hillary Clinton could scrape up a few scrap aircraft in Libya for a small finder’s fee.
Yeah … it’s official.
The US Government is officially a global laughingstock.
By design.
Economist Michael Hudson:
The American Empire Self-Destructs
But nobody thought that it would happen this fast
https://www.unz.com/mhudson/the-american-empire-self-destructs/
Please folks , go look at the artwork on the magazine covers of C.F.R’s Foreign Affairs and The Economist.
America in Decline ( with a skull & bones )
CONUS map ( all in BLACKOUT )
Every picture tells a story , dont it ?
Yup, Economist magazine is Rothschild publication–check out this one, dollar burning up and telling us get ready for a world currency:
https://bitcoin.com.au/1988-economist-magazine-prediction-come-true/
They always telegraph where they are taking us.
Which issue of Foreign Affairs?
The Jan/Feb 2022 Foreign Affairs has a Skull and Bones and its theme on the cover “Digital Disorder, War and Peace in the Cyber Age.” Arrived in mid to late December, so the artwork was probably planned months before.
The Poles found a very clever way to thread that needle. They haven’t refused to help the US, and they haven’t promised to directly oppose Russia.
Notice that THIS WAY gives Putin an “Off Ramp” with regards to hostilities with his European neighbors, and puts America in the position of being the ones providing planes to Putin’s opponent.
In this scenario the question is… WHY BOTHER to accept the Polish MiGs if we’re just going to give F16s to the Poles? Why not just send F16s straight to Ukraine and be done with it? We have over 1200 of them.
Oh why not…since the discussion seems to be pursuing possibilities to fulfill the Mig-29 Wish Sandwich why not mention some history. In 1920, the Polish fought a major war vs the Soviet-Russian. 17 US Airmen fought for the Poles and helped turn the tide vs Russians. So, there is some history behind “US Volunteers” flying those F-16’s you propose vs Russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_7th_Air_Escadrille
Yea I know there was the US Flying Tigers in China but this one was vs the Russians.
Also being reported that the F 16s to be traded for the MIG 29s have already been promised to Taiwan….
Suggesting that commitments to Taiwan are being abrogated.
The best World Wars are always multi-polar.
Gonzalo Lira (expat in Ukraine, has financial background):
What Is “The Dollar Is The Reserve Currency”—and Why You Will Be Poorer Now That It’s Not
(life going to get much worse over next 24 months, quality of life is going to deteriorate)
Thank you. Must viewing for everyone on this blog. Only 12 min and you will understand how the US govt cancelling Russia just declared war on the American people.
Only 12 min and you will understand how the US govt cancelling Russia just declared war on the American people.
Yes, that’s exactly what they did. Thanks for the summary!!!
Damn! That is some serious strategic chess being played by Poland…wonder how the idiot children in DC still playing checkers will respond?
I think this is Macron’s reaction to Blinken’s genius moves…
Hahahaha – that’s perfect! Macron – another soyboy in short pants trying to play with the big kids and getting his lunch handed to him, AGAIN!!
“Mais, maman, they are being so mean to me….make them stop it s’il vous plaît!
This fraudulent administration is not only jokingly insane, they must be removed immediately.
They’ve proved they cheated for the past 420 days by every action, lie and mess they’ve done. As their support in D’s and INDP’s tank, what will be next?
I saw that devolution theory out there……if PJT did file those articles, i think we are about there.
I grew up in a fairly ethnic town in NE Ohio. Back then, we told “pollock jokes”.
Jokes on us now….
Geez people, read the article; It’s Poland spoofing Blinken! I’m wondering how you Einstein’s make it through the day without hurting yourself…geez
Very Trumplike Poland! 👍🏼
I have admired Poland and its people since the 80’s when they began the fall of the Soviet Union.
About 5,000 US troops arrive in Poland amid Russia-Ukraine war: report. They are on the border!
https://www.foxnews.com/world/about-5000-us-troops-arrive-poland-russia-ukraine-war-report
Biden, is pushing for a direct war with Russia. They are facing over 100,000 Russian troops.
Biden playing with the lives of our sons.
Your damn right!
Anybody believing this? Poland refuses warplanes but allows US troops on their Russian border?
God bless you, Sundance – brilliantly unambiguous on USA mendacity!
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Just posted on separate thread:
WHY POLAND Commits to Send MIGs to GERMANY
https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/statement-of-the-minister-of-foreign-affairs-of-the-republic-of-poland-in-connection-with-the-statement-by-the-us-secretary-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine
Kicking up the geopolitical spitballing on Beijing Biden’s back-channel threats to Poland if they don’t send their MiGs to Ukraine:
• Withheld USA Military equipment, parts and service support
• Withdrawn USA Missile Defense units & equipment
• Impeded USA trade
• Untraceable Cyber attacks
• Suspended USA Visas
• Cancelled USA Corporate affiliations
But Poland’s leaders know sending those MIGs paints Russian bullseyes on their airfields and airports as a consequence for escalating the war as a Ukrainian accomplice to multiply Russian Troop deaths and prolong Ukrainian Civilian casualties.
So they brilliantly handed the MIG “hot potatoes” to BOTH USA and Germany (as a future USA accomplice)
• Committing to MOVE the MIGs to the USA’s Rammstein AFB in Germany
… where both nations can train pilots and deploy the MIGs ON their OWN
… in which case Germany would trigger Russia to CUT their GAS SUPPLY
… killing German Industry and inviting a German POLITICAL REVOLUTION
… noting that Germany’s Chanceller just committed to keep TAKING RUSSIAN GAS.
• Requiring the USA to FIRST replace the MIGs with equal/better non-Russian aircraft
… because the Russians no-doubt know how to defeat or kill-switch those MIGs
… which has made them useless to Poland in any event
… because the USA provoked and prolongs the Ukrainian conflict!
[Just guessing, of course]
Thanks, and fyi, Ramstein AB, outside the US, AB rather than AFB…
Biden’s foreign policy Team is reaching back to their middle school playbook by using middlemen (i.e., the Press and Twitter) to convey their messages to their true person of interest (i.e., Russia and Poland). Sad that this appears to pass as Foggy Bottoms’ idea of professional diplomacy these days. For once, I’m ok with their (terrible) performance because if they were were more effective, they might better achieve their objective.
What a great Polish FU to Blinken and DOS!
While this is all still a wish sandwich as Sundance states, the US Base involved in Germany is ON German soil and subject to the Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) between the US and Germany. So, Germany would have a say in any decisions made regarding disposition of any Mig-29’s sent to Ramstein AFB by anybody (Poland, German, Hungarian Museum, et al).
Just as Poland has no wish to have bulls-eye painted on them, does Germany??
So, the US is likely going to have send the aircraft back to the US and then to the Ukraine, which should be fun.
So, Poland is saying that they’ll transfer all their MIG 29 jets to the US Air Force base in Germany, for the US to use, and in exchange, they would like to receive aircraft with corresponding capability from the US. Of course, this statement has the very purpose that it suggests, as presumably the US has similar aircraft already at Ramstein. Be that as it may, Blinken is a dangerous, hardline ideologue.
It looks like the ukraine bioweapon rumors were true, nuland admitting.
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary/status/1501302668945506310#m
Thank you for the post. Captured it to send to my liberal family members who are all in for those poor souls in Ukraine. Wish I’d seen this earlier today. At a routine dental appointment, the hygienist found it necessary to bring up, yep, those very same poor souls. Rather than be sympathetic, I simply asked, “What about the Russians?” The look of surprise behind her mask was priceless. I continued, “The conflict began because of the decisions made by hotshot politicians. Ordinary citizens of BOTH Ukraine AND Russia will suffer, and by extension we will, too, so I can’t share your sympathy that is exclusively for Ukraine.”
Wish she had just kept her mouth shut and cleaned my teeth. And she probably wished the same.
It is kinda like when you had a friend ask a girl if she liked you back in Junior High School, but it involves a war not a sock hop. Blinken is a liar and NATO is a whore
Some commander on either side of the border overreacts and the war is on, accidentally. OR, Biden orders the American troops in! Fast trigger to nuclear war has been pulled by Biden.
Spitballing the “military dimension” in Russia’s upcoming “Sanctions Countermeasures” announcement by Thursday:
“If ANY NATO member sends military aircraft or equipment to Ukraine, Russia will discontinue ALL Gas & Oil Exports to ALL NATO members through December 31.”
“Ditto for ANY and ALL EU members.”
“… because those countries will be committing ACTS of WAR that Expand and Prolong the Conflict by
Slovakia considers similar handover of MIG’s like Poland. -WSJ
Nuland says US looking at putting Patriot Missile Batteries in Poland ( Plan – B ? )
@Zerohedge
My in-laws were from Poland about 100 years ago and my grandmother in law to her last breath a couple decades ago hated communism, government and Germans.
The fear, suspicion and loathing has never left their family; 5 generations later it is still alive.
Mike Rivero’s All Wars are Bankers Wars
What is so hard about Ukraine being a Neutral country at the soft underbelly of Russia where 2 belligerent nations, Germany and France previously invaded, killing millions of Russians and Ukrainians.
Is there that much profit made by the Bidens and Lindsey Grahams of this world by skimming off U.S. taxpayer dollars sent suspiciously into the criminal quagmire, known as Ukraine?
And FWIW I don’t remember the “Shock and Awe – Coalition of the Willing” killing campaign in Saddam’s Iraq having had Western Media interviewing innocent Iraqis as their families were murdered for the Whims of Dubya and Cheney.
It’s almost as if they don’t recognize the present US government…hmmm.
Just the fact that this aircraft transfer was attempted shows the intent to escalate past Putin’s red line.
Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
This is the time to demand an end to tolerating any policy decision which contains the seed of direct US/NATO war with Russia.
Apparently the pentagon folks just following orders from the war-hawks will lead to nuclear hell-on-earth. without some kind of internal push-back.
Putin holds the cards that matter, is not bluffing, and it’s time to accept that, and realize these people pushing NATO to intervene against Russia do not possess a healthy survival instinct. They are going to get us all killed if not restrained.
Meanwhile China is rubbing its hands together in glee.
Chyna is rubbing its hands together like Nancy Pelosi at the biden State of the Union.
Looks like he is a hostage reading prompter, just like the boss.
This excellent post highlights the immense hubris and arrogance of the US government and, by extension, the Ruling Class.
They sincerely believe they can lie any time to anyone and they won’t be called out for it because the American Enemedia (and Big Tech) generally covers for them–and this time is no different.
Other than CTH, or a few other dedicated sites (and possibly Tucker), its almost guaranteed this embarrassing rebuff by the Polish government won’t be covered.
We are being lead by fools, incompetents and deeply corrupt narcissists. This simply can’t go on much longer.
It won’t go on much longer. I was shocked at the price when I was tanking up my car today, as I am sure were millions of other Americans. Next comes the shock over the price of food, clothes, heat and air conditioning. This is unchartered territory, but I see an impeachment and removal from office of a president (either Biden or Kamala) in the near future of our country.
“Near future?”
Soonest that could happen is January of 2023; and that’s if the GOP wrestles back control of the House & Senate come November.