There’s a New York Times article getting attention today, as the article frames a narrative of the U.S. intelligence community and diplomatic offices trying to get China to influence Russia away from invading Ukraine.
However, as with all NYT reporting of the U.S. intelligence apparatus, the information within the article must be viewed through a different prism to understand the real motives being discussed.
Never ascribe to incompetence, that which can be explained by intent.
The Deep State narrative, what the NYT reports, begins thusly:
WASHINGTON — Over three months, senior Biden administration officials held half a dozen urgent meetings with top Chinese officials in which the Americans presented intelligence showing Russia’s troop buildup around Ukraine and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials.
Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. After one diplomatic exchange in December, U.S. officials got intelligence showing Beijing had shared the information with Moscow, telling the Russians that the United States was trying to sow discord — and that China would not try to impede Russian plans and actions, the officials said.
The previously unreported talks between American and Chinese officials show how the Biden administration tried to use intelligence findings and diplomacy to persuade a superpower it views as a growing adversary to stop the invasion of Ukraine, and how that nation, led by President Xi Jinping, persistently sided with Russia even as the evidence of Moscow’s plans for a military offensive grew over the winter.
This account is based on interviews with senior administration officials with knowledge of the conversations who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the diplomacy. The Chinese Embassy spokesman, Liu Pengyu, answered an earlier request for comment a half-day after this article was posted online, saying, “For some time, China has actively promoted the political settlement process of the Ukraine issue.” (read more)
The article goes on to say that China shared the information with Russia, and then outlines how Russia and China are the geopolitical partnership in the modern era. However, here’s the part where the motive and deep state angles are missed.
Do not view the details of this article outline through the prism printed by the intelligence apparatus; instead, view this article through the prism that U.S. intelligence and State Dept operatives were planting information into China, knowing it would be shared with Russia.
Obviously, anyone who follows geopolitical events already knows that China and Russia are partners against the west. Why would the U.S. intelligence apparatus think China would not share the details of the intelligence and/or seek to block Russian intents? The short answer is, they wouldn’t.
The White House, U.S. intel and Dept of State would know, to a guaranteed certainty, that any information they shared with China would get directly delivered to Russia. All information the United States would share (think ‘seed’) with China, would therefore be intended to get to Russia.
As a consequence, if the White House, CIA, State Department or U.S. intelligence community wanted to provoke Russian aggression, they would purposefully put that provocation material into the hands of the Chinese. THAT is the main takeaway from the New York Times article.
The U.S. intelligence apparatus was seeding information to Russia via China for three months prior to the triggering point.
What that provocation intelligence contained is unknown, but the U.S. delivering it through a third party is now confirmed.
It’s all a competing disinformation, manipulated information and propaganda warfare folks. Do not take any claim, any construct, any narrative from any side, at face value. This is where the underlying alignment of U.S. media becomes critical.
Notice the war started shortly after finding those “classified” documents Trump had at Mar a Lago?
Brandon is so back they use his intel as a back door channel!
“Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. After one diplomatic exchange in December, U.S. officials got intelligence showing Beijing had shared the information with Moscow, telling the Russians that the United States was trying to sow discord — and that China would not try to impede Russian plans and actions, the officials said.”
Obviously US “intelligence” intended that their info would be passed along to Russia. The last sentence from the quote above is the fruit of their efforts: China gave Russia an explicit greenlight to invade. Depending on one’s view of US intentions, that was either a cynical success, or a backfire of the worst kind.
Do not forget that China has its eyes not only on Taiwan, but Russian territories also. I’m sure that the American intelligence was manipulated by the Chinese to encourage Putin to make the attempt to swallow all of Ukraine instead of maybe the more eastern portions which had more sympathy towards Moscow than the western portions partially due to the importation of ethnic White Russians into the area, which dilutes the antipathy towards Russia for creating the Holodomor, where 3.9 million Ukranians starved to death due to the deliberate actions of Stalin.
Agree. China’s long game plan is to rule the entire world.
America’s Ruling Elite, both the Marxists and the Globalists, have sold their souls to China long ago and are OK with the total submission of the US to China. Complete sell outs.
Romney and the Bushes are just as guilty as the Clintons and the Obamas. These Elitist plans have also followed a long game plan for DECADES.
Remember that Stalin was not a white Russian, he was a Georgian who hated most Russian people.
Another tyrant with a Napoleon complex.
And the so called “Russian revolution” was not some spontaneous uprising of the peasants, over 20 million white Russian Christian peasants were exterminated in the years that followed as a result of that regime change, so it was a hardly a workers revolt.
It was a carefully orchestrated, years in the making Khazarian banking mafia financed overthrow of the Russian royal family.
The buck and the blood, lots of it (!!!) stops at the desks of the bankers in London, Paris and New York, Jacob Schiff was a chief antagonist on behalf of the Rothschild murder family.
I think it only succeeded on the third attempt.
So was Beria…Georgian.
The Khazars were long dead, their empire disappeared centuries ago.
If you mean to say “Jew”, and be obvious about your anti-semitism, then at least be honest about it.
And if this is part of a concerted effort to nullify the Jewish claim to the state of Israel, I would invite you to do some scholarly research into the linguistic and genetic studies that have been done on Ashkenazi Jews, to confirm their legitimate Semitic heritage.
American intel agencies seed info to Russia from China-they want a war
Zelensky wants to meet with Russians, but Biden says no-Biden wants war to continue.
Ok, so far it makes sense, but to what end? Destruction of evidence?
Depopulation?
I think all countries want to get rid of the deep state, everybody is sick of them ruining lives of people and children. Then they can get back to minor land squabbles; although, there is plenty for everyone without the criminals.
Sure, destruction of evidence, but also the complete subjugation of the population of the world to a global elite. This can be obtained by a world war.
The premise here is that US was incapable of diplomatically approaching Russia directly and that China had more power to persuade than US.
Why?
Can somebody ask a question please?
Good question.
Maybe Putin is mad at the Marxist Democrats for all the lies they told about Trump being one of his agents when Trump was in office?
Putin is correct about the US being full of Liars.
Very believable based on history. The CIA and FBI are two of the most DESTRUCTIVE agencies in the world.
Rut Row. Don’t look now but I think the package of Seeds which just sprouted said, ” multinational conspiracy genocide treason” the 25th Amendment would be a slap on the wrist.
I don’t get it.
First, would the Chinese themselves just pass along information, robotically? Wouldn’t they have suspicions also? Wouldn’t they suspect it was disinformation?
Moreover, if >> and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials….<< how would Russia NOT know where the Chinese got their disinformation?
My guess is that at some level, Chinese and Russian intel members met and had a good laugh.
Someone just told me Zelenskyy is a Schwab boy…