First, I did not anticipate Russia going beyond their allied region in Eastern Ukraine. I was wrong. It appears Vladimir Putin is going for the whole enchilada as reports indicate his military operations are positioned to capture all of Ukraine, specifically the western Ukraine areas under control of the U.S. State Department.
Second, with all the prior Ukraine issues serving as a reference, it is important to remember that every media outlet in the U.S. machinery of information is untrustworthy.
U.S. intelligence manipulated information, some call misinformation and disinformation, is rampant as the U.S. has specific motives for everything that takes place in Ukraine.
In many ways Ukraine is a vassal state of U.S. leftist politics.
Ukraine has been a satellite operation for the U.S. State Department for approximately 15 to 20 years. The U.S. has held control over Ukraine, and manipulated every political outcome inside Ukraine, for well over a decade. This reality is the source of Vladimir Putin’s angst toward the west for the same amount of time, and it’s the same reason why the EU, specifically Germany, is tenuous in any collaborative response.
The EU, writ large (including NATO), are less interested in Ukraine, because they know Ukraine is the U.S. playground in Europe. This truism explains why we see a conflict when it comes to responses and sanctions from the U.S. compared to the European NATO allies.
The outcome is along the line of NATO countries telling us, Ukraine is our playground, the issues are our creation, therefore when it comes to responsive action – you do you and we will look out for ourselves, but we in the EU have to live with the reality of the outcome, so our interests will likely diverge from yours depending on what Putin intends.
Vladimir Putin seeking to take the entire country of Ukraine back under his control – highlights, at least to me, that when Joe Biden took office, the scale of U.S. manipulation and influence went back to maximum levels. This is in contrast to four years of President Trump not manipulating Ukraine or trying to use Ukraine as a vassal for U.S. foreign policy interests. Obviously, this puts the DC and Deep State (CIA and State Dept) attack on Trump, using Ukraine, into a specific context.
While there is no justification for President Putin to take all of Ukraine, an independent nation under Russian control, the Occam’s Razor geopolitical explanation would indicate Putin just reached a point where enough was enough. Taking all of Ukraine away from U.S. control puts a stop to our using the Russian border state for our own interests.
Again, the scale and scope of Putin’s commitment here shows a particular radically strong motive to cut out what he sees as the U.S. cancer completely. This is the aspect I did not anticipate. I expected Putin to throw a strong brush back pitch against the U.S. and retake control over eastern Ukraine, where he is appreciated. I did not expect Putin to throw multiple fast balls directly at the head of team U.S.A.
Now, we get to the part where information warfare begins. The same U.S. media who support the deepest part of the DC deep state, will be spinning the U.S. State Department position exclusively and with a massive amount of manipulation. We cannot trust the CNN, WaPo, NYT version of events, because they are in alignment with the globalist intents of the Dept of State.
Inside the dynamic is another layer of ideology around climate change and energy. The same U.S. interests who will clutch their pearls over the invasion of Ukraine by Russia, will not step up to increase energy development within the U.S. that could offset Russian influence in Europe.
It is difficult to blame Germany for not supporting the Biden demands of sanctions against Russia (SWIFT, Nordstream II, etc.), because energy dependent Germany can see the hypocrisy in the U.S. position toward energy development.
Stuck in the middle of this are the Ukraine people. The manipulative U.S. State Dept has held control over Ukraine politics for so long, most of the Ukraine people suffer Stockholm syndrome toward us. I doubt most of the western Ukrainian people can see how the U.S. involvement in their political affairs has put their country into this vulnerable position, in the same way most of the American people do not see the manipulation in the U.S. 2020 election.
In the big picture, China and Iran support Russia and are allies with Russia. Collectively China, Iran and Russia will have increased direct involvement as their alliance will now confront the U.S- western alliance. We can expect the cyber battleground (hacking etc) will be China and Russia working together, while the U.S. and western allies work together.
The bottom line is…. eventually physical power is what determines the outcome of war.
If Putin wants all of Ukraine, he will get all of Ukraine.
A 180 degree turn for Germany:
German Economy Minister Habeck Says We Will Build Up A Coal Reserve ( Habeck is one of the leaders of the environmental friendly green party )
After Merkel stripped the country naked of any fossil fuels? You don’t say!
This puts a knife in the heart of the cult of Climate Change…and somewhere John Kerry’s crying on the shoulder of Greta Thunberg.
When globalist attend meetings to tackle global warning arriving ALL of them in private jets we KNOW they are not serious.
Hypocrites think we can’t see them.
They are serious about the rest of of us freezing and starving. Which is why they have pushed the climate change/global warming/global cooling mantra for over 50 years.
I’ll lend them both a hankie.
I’m fresh out of them, John.
Merkel also shut down nuclear power plants.
Oh yes she did…she started that little project right after Fukishima.
God willing.
Simply amazing.
The German dumbasses got rid of all of their capabilities to burn coal.
It would take long months to retrofit any of their power plants to burn coal again, or even for the first time.
Not true. Germany burns more coal than before the ‘Energiewende’, i.e. when they shut down nuclear plants.
Large parts of the German industry produce their own electricity because it’s cheaper and kmore reliable.
If you say so, but that’s not what I thought.
It’s easy to say you’re going to give up coal, harder to do. Germany still uses coal.
https://www.destatis.de/EN/Press/2021/09/PE21_429_43312.html
They never got around to building facilities to accept our LNG, killed their nukes, and now are gonna rely on coal?
Wanna bet they then cry about the filthy coal to leverage The Great Reset/Green New Steal into existence?
That’s why they want us energy poor and have been making it so after all.
Yeap that will work, lol. Enjoy your “warmth” winter with candles. All talk now. But I think they eventually will approve the NS 2 after the “escalation” reaches its climax.
We are in deep doo doo
No worries SD. Was in a DoD wargame on the Baltics that, after 6 hours of discussion, intel analysis, and incentive analysis, crashed against the rocks of “What is Putin thinking?” People had ideas, but nobody had any good ideas.
Putin could take back the Baltic States right now and no one would do a damn thing about it…
True, but the Baltics aren’t causing Putin a$$-pain the way Ukraine is. If there’s an EU/US split as SD says, then taking Ukraine just irritates Joe Biden, so who cares? If Putin takes the Baltics, then the EU has a legitimate gripe and SWIFT access will be cut off, which creates a cash flow problem for Putin that he doesn’t need.
And Europe’s economy tanks because Putin can leverage its energy dependence.
We get pulled into a war that we can’t pivot away from to fight China’s aggression against Taiwan, Japan, or at our borders.
Was that covered in your DoD wargame?
Was it in yours?
No
We already know what the DoD war game theory with the Russians is: that the Russians would annihilate our forces if we ever became engaged. So we won’t really go to war w/ Russia, and Russia has precisely estimated that end result. They know we are all hot air.
Putin knows he can be bold, and all we’ll do is threaten them with financial sanctions which they’ve already developed some work arounds.
Here’s the Russian military recruitment ad vs the American Army recruitment ad. Watch it and weep.
https://www.850wftl.com/video-russian-military-recruiting-ad-vs-woke-american-recruiting-ad/
Coincidentally, I just started re-reading Manchester’s biography of Churchill.
In the introduction, he points out both Churchill and Hitler completely confounded their political contemporaries, because both operated outside the realm of calculated, quantifiable 20th century thinking that had come to dominate political life. For different reasons and in different ways both men appealed to, drew on, and acted by, deeper mystical aspects of human nature.
I bring this up this because I am reminded of what someone said of Putin after he launched military operations while hosting the Winter Olympics:
“Modern leaders don’t act this way.”
INTERESTING
“Modern leaders” wear face-shields and double-masks when they trot out their fighting force, recently culled for wrong-think. Hubris.
And that deeper consciousness makes them sure footed in their unconventional tactics.
Btw, do you know Churchill was a Eugenicist? Another fraud “great” white man.
Isn’t a BLM supporter a eugenicist? Does color matter?
Churchill welcomed the German air attacks on London in 1940, because the bombardments would unite the British and create the right spirit to fight a bloody war…
….Keep people guessing…..
Cagey as a fox.
The bubble elites can’t figure out Putin’s goal of halting NATO expansion, you don’t say?
McCain at Maidan (Kiev Independence Square): “I am with you. The destiny you seek lies in Europe!”
In every war simulation, the US allegedly lost to China and Russia. You don’t need a lot of “thinking power” when your troops are full of trannies and homos versus the real MEN.
The real men are all driving trucks and tractors.
Makes perfect sense. If Putin doesn’t take the whole thing, that gives the US places to land and stage a front. Ukraine is a crime outpost of the DS.
Yup. Ukraine has been a satellite operation for the U.S. State Department for approximately 15 to 20 years. Biden’s land, sex trafficking, just to name a couple.
Broad paintbrush?
Many trolls today
Not a troll, just someone who is of Ukrainian descent and is hurting, especially because the entire world just turned its back on the country of my ancestors. I am particularly heartbroken that the country my grandparents and parents adopted as theirs, simply let Putin have his way. What gives Russia the right to take over another country and we all just stand by and do nothing? I won’t go into the political or historical issues… all countries have them, ours included… just look at the corruption in DC. I am simply looking at it from the right to freedom of a people, a principle this country was founded on but which seems to have fallen by the wayside.
Think twice before you label others. Remember that when you point a finger, the others are pointing back at you. Besides, I have posted here on occasion for a number of years and you are the only one to call me a troll. I said what I did to RJ because I hate it when someone paints an entire people with a broad stroke of a paintbrush without giving them the benefit of the doubt.
I too thought simply occupying and annexing the two newly recognized states would be the limit.
No way 8 thought Putin would go all the way to Kyiv.
But that’s what it looks like.
It is illustrative of exactly how weak Putin believes the Biden regime and NATO really are.
Any leader that allowed their country to become dependent on Russian oil is dangerous fool.
NATO aka National Socialist Alliance Treaty Organization is good for assisting Muslim terrorists and National Socialist ethnic cleansers and bombing small countries without extensive air defense systems (like Serbia) but not much else. The Serbs were correct to call “NATO” war criminals & “Nazis”
Actually, NATO stands for No Action, Talk Only.
V. Putin remembers Clinton and his bombing of Kosovo-Metohija, Serbia.
No. It has been 30-40 years of build-up. Nothing to do with the “weakness’ of the involved parties. Even if Trump was still in office, and this would still happen if he “stirred” up the pot like our current “dear leader.” But to be fair, our “dear leader” is not in charge. There is a rumor that the Russian is taking out the bio-weapon lab, which Putin has had claimed the US is behind the development; probably valid.
So puzzle me this, Russia made land grabs during the GW Bush, Obama and Biden administrations.
He did NOT during President Trump’s term.
Trump told Putin that he would bomb Moscow if Putin invaded Ukraine. He told Xi that he would bomb Beijing if he invaded Taiwan. They both thought Trump was “crazy” enough to do it. At the time neither had hypersonic missiles, so they played nice.
Now we are the ones without hypersonic missiles
Maybe.
you believe that?….who exactly do you think the PRC got the technology from?
200 thousand troops to take too small provinces with 40% Russian citizens……..?
My guess is a very large number of the force are newly conscripted.
And your point is?
Why not? They don’t do it 1/2 way like the US.
Depending upon how determined the Ukrainians are to resist, a wise Fox correspondent in Kyiv commented last night that this could be even more of an unending pain for Russia than Chechnya is. If it is, he sees the political end for Putin. Let’s hope this is the case as it will also serve to give the Chicoms a second thought about Taiwan.
No second thoughts for the Chicoms, they know, and see clearly that leftist USA is not up to the fight.
Does Taiwan have nukes?
No. Nor does Japan. Nor does S. Korea. Nor does Australia. Israel does, however.
They were on Okinawa in 1960.
Israel is “reported” to have nukes….no official declaration or test to confirm it…..they call it the Hand of David supposedly
A diplomatic settlement of the de facto threat of the NATO/USA Deep State camped in Western Ukraine, at the Barbarossa II underbelly of Russia, was too much for the narrow-minded War Profiteers that feed off the helpless U.S. taxpayer.
Putin (insert adjective here) is still the leader of Russia, a country that has been invaded from Europe many times.
U.S. bleating and posturing is only for U.S. consumption. While the criminals ensconced in the Beltway, smoking their crackpipes, hobbled U.S. Military power on the conceit of Wokeism, Russia has rebuilt the necessities to save itself.
… Word Salad…
you did not read for comprehension
Taiwan is dead meat. One thing stands out to me. The little fis( bidung) can’t eat the big fish. Combined forces of Russia and China is not like dealing with corn pop.
OMG, Americans are so stupid that even at this point still buying into the democracy and freedom BS, lol.
100% in agreement re: Ukraine being a Foggy Bottom vassal state.
Let Biden rattle his ice cream waffle cones all he wants—better yet, send LtCol Vindman to defend his beloved homeland.
And remove his retirement benefits, and citizenship.
“I will be freezing the money Hunter got from the Moscow mayor’s wife. Hillary can keep her uranium dough, though–I’m not crazy! “
Putin is reclaiming Ukraine from the Globalist criminals. He stopped them from destroying and taking over secular Syria, and thus protecting secular Lebanon with its large Christian community.
Colkitto, I’m starting to think this is entirely a big part…perhaps the biggest part…of Putin’s actions.
Somewhere today I saw a tweet with a map of Ukraine which shows the double digit number of DoD funded US biolabs in Ukraine. I was unaware of these…Odessa, Vinnytsia, Uzhgorod, Lviv (3), Kiev (3), Kherson, Temopil, and near Crimea and Luhansk. Two other possible locations in Kharkiv and Mykolaiv.
Given what we know goes on in these labs…has gone on to the deathly detriment of the whole world…what sane leader would want these in his backyard?
I have no idea if this is a part of it, but if Putin were to target these installations (an absolute threat to his country), I for one would understand his thinking better.
Is he excising a metastatic cancer before the whole of the area is consumed? I think it’s a point worth considering.
AMazing the map suddenly comes to light from multiple sources. There are no coincidences.
Fascinating, isn’t it? And you are so right about “coincidences”.
We really don’t know what is going on behind the scenes. Zelenskyy may have even Ok’d Putin to have these taken out because it wasn’t possible for Z to do so himself if these labs were set up years ago under a contract lease agreement with the US. Lots of possibilities to ponder…..
There’s an old saw from a friend of mine in Wales. She used to say what she didn’t know about something, she’d make up…i.e. imagine.
We don’t know more than we do know. So I agree with you. A lot of “making up” and supposition is going on at the moment. And yes, the possibilities are endless, none of them good.
I know this probably won’t go over well, but I actually respect Putin more than ever now. He’s the only one fighting back against the globalist, and fighting in his own way for his country, his heritage, and “nationalism.” If only we had someone like that… oh, wait, we have Trump!!! I fear our own FBI and DOJ more than the Russians.
But did Putin repress Ivermectin in Russia ?
Can’t blame Putin, because what is Lesco Brandon Poopypants gonna do to stop him? Not a thing.
Poopypants Nadler can get his diapers changed at the same time as his fellow poopypants comrade Biden, the virtual fake president
He’s going to try to thread a needle. Remember he wants MOOLA from Congress. Military crisis MEANS money!
Yes you can. He is invading another country.
I believe this is checkmate on the Ukraine chessboard.
Checkmate in East Europe. Very few options left for the West in that area,,,,,blew an excellent opportunity to establish a beneficial working relationship with Russia.
But then the American Leftist-Elits only look out for their $$$$$$$ interests.
I would suspect this is making Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, JFKerry and his kid, Pelosi and her kid a little nervous.
Who knows what kind of incriminating evidence the Russians might come across.
If Putin takes all of Ukraine, at the very least, the money-laundering and other crimes carried out by our State Department will have to cease.
Can’t say I’m unhappy about that.
They’re likely more worried about setting up new money-laundering playgrounds for themselves than they are worried about any silly national impacts that only deplorables would mention.
Maybe Putin can bring Adam Schiff on as a consultant on “kompromat”…Schiff’s gonna need that scratch now that his Ukraine gig is gone.
lets hope he dumps all of it asap, I’m afraid that would be the reason we may see ww3 in the vain hope that the truth can be buried
Well, they are at risk, but nobody releases the dirt they hold against others except in extreme conditions.
Putin will certainly be looking for all the dirt on them to use to his future benefit…
Plus Romney and every GOPe that speaks with a puffy chest.
Oh, I’m confident they have some other captive nation waiting in the bullpen. Haiti might be too small to serve for the long haul, though.
The hideous and always wrong Thomas Friedman tweeted the following 9 days ago…
“The Ukraine story is far from over. But if Vladimir Putin opts to back away from invading Ukraine, even temporarily, it’s because Joe Biden-that guy whose right-wing critics suggest is so deep in dementia he wouldn’t know Kyiv from Kansas or AARP from NATO matched every Putin chess move with an effective counter of his own.”
So I’ll just leave this here for posterity.
If a clown is elected to the castle, the castle becomes a circus.
What are the poor jesters to do when the king is a clown?
Throw pies? (Thinking of a great scene near the end of the film The Great Race).
You misspelled “installed”, C.
Same clown who said on the day Trump got elected in 2016 that the stock market would never recover.
It did go down…for about 3 seconds. Then it was up, up and away.
Good day ma’am.
And to you, my friend😊
JUst leave it for Friedman’s Posterior.
Biden chess moves? I think you mean tiddlywinks.
Tiddlywinks for Biden. For Putin, chessmaster, check.
PRICELESS!
Thanks, caught quite a grin off that.
You are most welcome.😊
“The manipulative U.S. State Dept has held control over
AfghaniUkraine politics for so long…”They will fare no worse under Putin than our State Department.
Holdomor says otherwise.
Are you seriously juxtaposing Stalin and Putin?!
Comparing their actual personalities and accomplishments, exactly how?!
You insult the millions of people starved, butchered, and murdered by Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin! You expose yourself as an advocate for the very darkness.
And not to forget, funded by NY bankers
Putin can have it. Joe Biden and his financial interests in Ukraine can burn.
Biden is never going to convince me we need tp fight for Ukraine and Europe for the oil and gas. It is now Putin’s to lose.
And I will let the EU freeze to death if necessary.
His news conference was an unmitigated disaster… He kept grinning and smirking while failing to answer questions cogently… Nothing he suggested will stop the Russians from completing their military takeover of Ukraine… It’s clear, that Bidens priority ISN’T the curtailing of Putin’s takeover, but IS keeping the climate change agenda continuing without compromise… This guy is a disaster, he will get us all killed…
Well said. Leave it to Putin to end woke globalism. Putin is a gangster, but he is not stupid. He struck while the iron was hot. Its now Gangsters Vs. Woke Global Fascists. FJB.
Well, now we are closer than ever to that horrible day when we query, “who will defend the entirety of Western and Eastern Europe in the event of a foreign aggressor’s attack?????????
Given this state of mind, it might be interesting to ponder the following question:
If you were a European and were conquered by a foreign power, under whose authority and control would you prefer to live among the following choices?
A. The Chinese Communist Party
B. The Muslim Brotherhood
C. The Trudeau Canadian Regime
D. The Supreme Islamic State of Iran
E. The Biden Regime of the North American Communist States
F. The Republic of Russia
To me, these are all unthinkable choices, BUT A CHOICE MAY HAVE TO BE MADE IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE!!
(you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you)
“We cannot trust the CNN, WaPo, NYT version of events because they are in alignment with the globalist intents of the Dept of State.”
Sundance omitted Fox News. Surely, we can’t trust FNC either, not with their pro-Bushie, pro-war, Chamber of Commerce-controlled agenda.
At this point, there’s not a dime’s bit of difference between Bret Baier, Wolf Blitzer and Rachel Maddow, IMHO.
From this article
“it is important to remember that every media outlet in the U.S. machinery of information is untrustworthy”
Definitely agree about Faux.
They are the same as the fake R’s. Uniparty.
Baier was so supportive of Biden last night that the late night news on Fox was virtually unwatchable… Every comment was calculated to defend Biden and slight Trump… Shannon Bream was just as bad…
No surprise.: Fox has been unwatchable for quite a few years now.
China will likely take Taiwan over the next couple of weeks. The USA leadership – including the military – is weak; the nation is heavily divided and unsupportive of our own corrupt “leaders”. WWIII.
I agree, Taiwan is in huge danger and I would add that a seriously emboldened Iran is one to keep an eye on. Removing sanctions that kept them in line will let them get in the mix to cause problems.
I would be very concerned about how the Emirates and the Saudis are reading the tea leaves tonight.
Countries that voluntarily invoke suicidal policies, become helplessly bankrupt and tolerate stupid and corrupt politics, simply WON’T SURVIVE LONG IN THIS WORLD! And the USA’s last year has seen the fastest & most dramatic fall of ANY nation in world history! Putin, Jinping and all of Islam is calculating how to get from us what they want!
China will move on Taiwan the second we have made any meaningful commitment to Eastern Europe.
Once they feel that we are too committed to pivot or we are too week to effectively respond ROC is doomed.
Probably not, Taiwan is an ally, Ukraine is not, China is not stupid and it’s not its style.
china will be taking a page from the “never let a good crisis go to waste” playbook
For some reason, and I’m not sure why, I can’t foresee a massive invasion or air-strikes. Too much infrastructure, facilities, resources would be destroyed. Xi wants it, badly, he just doesn’t want to detroy it in the process.
his military is also a paper tiger and conquest of Taiwan requires boots on the ground
I really appreciate this, Sundance. It’s hard when you swing hard and miss. But keep swinging.
I appreciate SD when he says he is wrong. Humility is a fantastic virtue.
Sundance is not one to shy away from reality folks.
Putin has been notoriously unpredictable. That’s why Trump was so effective at dealing with him. He brought that same level of unpredictability to the table cuz he wasn’t bought off. Biden is horribly compromised both at home and abroad. Putin realized that Biden was pulling the “wag the dog” schtick at his expense because of badly him and the political machines here are doing. So he capitalized on that and is going to end up taking a thorn in his side out without much trouble, at least from without.
The shampeachment is basically to blame for what’s happening here. They couldn’t let Trump find out what they were doing over there. The bad actors involved in that abortion of justice and cover up deserve to be air-dropped over the Ukraine and let the locals show their appreciation and commitment to freedom and justice abroad.
Biden and Clinton mafia networks created modern Ukraine and who knows what blackmail (actually we know a lot) Russia has on those crime families.
This will be a war we lose deliberately, like Vietnam.
Taiwan is next.
Bidan is the Manchurian candidate, in office to destroy America and the free world.
Do you think Joe Biden will put his seedy seed ahead of the nation? You bet
https://rumble.com/vl89ii-hunter-biden-blackout-media-ignores-hunter-admitting-russians-stole-laptop-.html
I want to see Putin start leaking the evidence they have on the State Department crime families.
Drip, drip, drip.
That isn’t going to happen. Hence Zelensky needs to be the one to do it. Putin will just use it as leverage against his enemies.
I have to call this an unsubstantiated theory because I have not researched it. Whether I could successfully research is another question. This person’s theory is that since Putin had previously complained about the US doing dangerous bio-research near Russia’s border, Putin has taken this opportunity to take out said labs across Ukraine. Map, links, video included.
At the moment I put this in the plausible category.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1496745429672857602.html
Or Putin and crew were doing bio-warfare research near the border? The question is why would the US outsource it to the Ukraine?
Think Wuhan Lab
We’ve outsourced it to the entire globe.
Wuhan much?
Because its illegal in the US?
With all that we’ve learned about outsourcing shady practices to another country to skirt US laws (5Eyes, Gain of Function, etc.), why wouldn’t they?!
There’s a very good chance you just passed along disinfo.
I figured the following covered that possibility.
I have to call this an unsubstantiated theory because I have not researched it. Whether I could successfully research is another question. This person’s theory is…
People here are capable of discerning for themselves.
WOW! It’s a crying shame we don’t have true journalism available.
If Biden starts a war with Russia, Americans will burn DC before Putin can put his boots on.
I suspect Putin goes everywhere with his boots on. It’s his shirt that he has problems with.
And Putin knows this, which is why he’s doing this. He knows after Afghanistan we have zero desire to fight another war abroad for no benefit to ourselves.
It’s not so much the why as it is the timing of it.
The Ukraine Crisis: Facts Versus Lies
https://newswithviews.com/the-ukraine-crisis-facts-versus-lies/
Putin’s UPCOMING RESPONSE:
“For countries that have joined Biden in Sanctioning Russian Banks, preventing our companies from receiving payment for Oil, Gas and other Commodities, the Russian State will now REQUIRE and RECEIVE ADVANCE PAYMENT-in-GOLD on their behalf before they ship their products.”
… What if he announces a GOLD-BACKED Ruble?
Sounds like 3d chess.
Russian Judo.
The world doesn’t work that way. We already have what amounts to a gold backed ruble. It is gold.
Well, it looks like Pelosi won’t be able to claim that Biden’s Super Duper Diplomatic skills stopped Putin, huh?
Now, let’s wait and see what happens with the paperwork… will the Russians get their hands on it and publish it?
The Ukraine has been in the Russian sphere of influence for hundreds of years. So, what’s new?
They won’t. Zelensky needs to do that if he wants take these dirtbags down with him.
will the Russians get their hands on it and publish it?
I see no need for them to publish it. It has more value held as a stick above those that are making squawking noises now; Biden, Kerry, Pelosi, Mittens Romney and all the other lesser known corrupticons.
Besides, if he released it it could engineer a scenario that brings down this regime. Russia likes dealing with the Biden regime a helluva lot more than the Trump Administration.
tonyE: The Russians have always sought to strike when their adversaries were in positions of weakness or inattention (as with the Brits, during the “Great Game” of the 19th Century).
The U.S. has a very weak resident in the White House and Europe if full of socialist surrender monkeys.
Don’t be surprised that this “play” results in the centre of europe moving eastwards to Hungary and Poland. There is no need to heed the words/leadership of France and Germany.
since shortly after the Mongol’s Golden Horde days in the 1400’s….the satraps of Moscow and Kiev started exerting more influence on their surrounding areas
I didn’t think Putin would invade either.
However, then I read this Newsweek article from 2021 that talked about US chemical weapons labs on the Russian border areas.
First, congrats to Sundance on doing something the media, the politicians, and the Deep State will never do. Admitting they were wrong.
I also thought Putin wouldn’t do that. Why would he want to take on the mess that is Ukraine?
Now that the Uniparty’s European base for illicit cash is gone, this is going to raise the importance of sucking up to China for them. I’m guessing that means you can kiss Taiwan goodbye.
Next, please take Washington, DC.
In a way, he has…It’s already under Communist rule…
Putin will take Ukraine, install a puppet government, then withdraw his forces.
NATO will be left with a bunch of forces with no one to attack.
Germany will go back to buying natural gas from Russia.
Oil and natural gas prices will enrich the Russian economy because they will not be disconnected from SWIFT.
Biden won’t drill, Americans will suffer from massive inflation, and Putin will have won.
In that case, he should dismantle the unwieldy beast. Set up countries in each region.
But, one should not forget that we play disrupter too. Pretty easy to spin up revolts in the regions that favor us. That will make it hard for Putin to hold onto his conquests. Stay and lose lives and popularity. Withdraw and have the regions revolt.
He can stay in and hold onto the countries friendly to him without any trouble.
The rest may be up to negotiations where he can finally force agreements to end our Cold War II against Russia.
If we presume that Russia learned something about the difficulty of consolidating an easy military conquest from its Afghanistan debacle, a puppet government would seem to be the way to go. Russia’s strategic interests would be well served by neutralizing Ukraine; long-term occupation would be a financial drain that the Russian economy really can’t afford.
Putin’s targeted the main C3 facilities in Ukraine, including the bunkered command centers, e.g., Lvov. Without C3, Ukrainian forces are helpless. I believe he wants Ukraine neutered rather than absorb Ukraine into Russia (I don’t think he would want the domestic mess that would result). Swift and decisive action is the mantra for Russian forces and this operation appears to be going according to plan. How Zelensky could say there was no threat when Russian tanks with large white crosses were massing on his borders is beyond me. (The white crosses are the markings used by the Russians to identify friend or foe when everyone has the same equipment: see the videos of the invasion of Prague in 1968 or the Zapad-81 mass of troops along the Polish border in 1981 — Eastern European leaders well know what the white crosses mean!)
He said he was going to neuter Ukraine (offensively) then talk peace terms. He wants Ukraine as a neutral state. Now, I don’t know what he means by that. Does neutral state mean reflexive reaction to Russian dictates?
I don’t see the value of Ukraine. I understand (from conversations with a Donetsk Ukrainian refugee from ~2014) that Ukraine is lawless. The oligarchs steal anything they want.
Why is Putin doing this, because he can. Why can he, because Biden gutting our energy sector enriched Russia, Biden’s failure in Afghanistan proved that Biden and his generals are total idiots, their priorities are wokeness, forced vaccine, and to make sure our forces are gender neutral and the greenies are happy. He refuses to do what will work open our oil and gas resources now.
Posts on GAB claiming that most targets hit by bombing were US bio weapons installations. ?????
Yes. It appears Putin is going to give them a color revolution. Russian style.
So if I’m understanding this…
U.S. poked the (russian) bear too many times and didnt expect him to go ‘all in’ to take the ukraine.
What I’m unclear about is, if the ukraine is the deep state’s (DS) playground, why did they poke the bear that many times? Why would they risk vladdy upending all of their access to said playground?
I realize the DS needs russia as the excuse for our economy, gas prices, etc., but doesnt the DS need their bankroll (the ukraine) more??
Because these people are idiots. They are good at scheming to deflect blame from themselves for things, but if they were actually competent and operating from a place of authenticity the need for that blame deflecting wouldn’t be necessary in the first place. These people don’t understand how Eastern cultures think. Trump did.
Putin sensed how tenuous Biden’s position is back home and knew he had the latitude to invade like he has. These people aren’t in charge because they’re smart but because of politics.
I want to start a betting pool. How many headlines a week use the word “unexpectedly”? A buck a square. Any takers?
I think the Deep State read too many twitter posts. They begin to think twitter is the real world.
I believe the DS got outplayed by Putin. It’s as simple as that.
He’s a likely punching bag when they want to sound tough. He called their bluff.
I’m am posting this article for those interested (although I think the author is unfair on Russia). This is an important component to consider in this war — the spiritual component. We of the western mind don’t understand a lot of the dynamics that underpin this situation, and since we are a product of enlightenment thinking, we tend to think in linear, secular terms (even if we are religious), that separate earth and heaven, so-to-speak. As a result, we tend to forget the spiritual history of Russia here and ignore it as an important dynamic.
Remember that the Bolsheviks killed an estimated 60 MILLION Christians through their overthrow of the Czar and the implementation of Communism. They went after Russia’s churches and burned them. If you have a stomach to read what they did to the Czar and his family, and then to the Christian population of Russia, you should absolutely do so. The destruction and mutilation of Russia was funded out of New York by globalists.
Their legacy continues on today in the Ukraine. So I think Putin is acting out against what has happened in history and religious history as well. Just some things to consider in all of this.
Article link here:
https://unherd.com/2022/02/putins-spiritual-destiny/
Thank you for speaking up on this! I wish I could upvote you unlimited times!
History matters. Stupidity and hubris matter. Godliness matters. Godlessness matters and is what undergirds this whole travesty. The U.S. “government” has no business dragging We the American People into this disgraceful incident, or any other, poking around in any other country’s business! We have an holy, godly obligation to tend to our own business, and let others be.
Paul Craig Roberts, who was a vital part of Reagan’s largely rational and reasonable administration, has been trying to get the truth about this disgusting business between TPTB and Russia and Putin out for many, many months now. Of course the warmongers on “both sides of the aisles,” whether MSM or “alt media,” even here, don’t want that truth to come out. Peace is boring. Not being “the world’s policeman” and “the exceptional nation” and a veiled world empire, is boring. Meddling and “moulding” and “democratizing” and spreading “freedom” through cloak-and-dagger and gunpoint, and outright war, is exciting and profitable for the rulers.
But peace is godly. War is not. Peace is a sacred characteristic of Christ He promised to all who claim Him — that passes understanding, even (John 13 through 16). Have you ever noticed who is barred from New Jerusalem? Revelation 21:6-8, 27. No, meddlers and warmongers and the violent and liars are shut out into their preferred abode, the Lake of Fire.
Please look up Paul Craig Roberts’s Web site and read his Russia/Putin/Ukraine articles if you really want the truth about Putin and Russia and Ukraine. This pearl-clutching and apoplectic saber-rattling against something that doesn’t concern you and me at all, except the inevitable consequences we will be forced to suffer in the name of “Americanism” and “patriotism,” is deliberately and maliciously manufactured, NOT an inevitability.
Are you so insulted by Putin’s daring to defy the corrupt U.S. government that you are willing to die — or send other people’s sons and daughters to die for you — for THIS?!
How about we open up OUR country to free commerce and development of the things we need and EXCEL at right here on our own soil again?! BEFORE NAFTA shipped it all away to other countries. Before that devastated our mining, steel, factories, textiles, oil, auto, INFRASTRUCTURE (you remember that, don’t you? Supposedly in these stupid phony TRILLION-DOLLAR spending bills of Biden and Congress?), farming, ranching, and no federal income tax, so that a FAMILY could prosper on a single breadwinner’s salary or wages?
Our business is to return our country to its decent, prosperous, actually free, state, before it was taken over by the insidious Bolsheviks and Cultural Marxists.
It CAN be done. But only if we commit to Christ and His Way, and wean ourselves from human government rulers.
Putin has restored Christianity — however flawed it may look at the moment, it far surpasses our own versions here! — and that is one of his openly declared and irrevocable policies and goals for his country and his people.
We’re not even whispering such a thing here.
But we’re breathing fire over Ukraine?
What’s wrong with this picture?
A very great deal!
you sir are not very familiar with the Holy Bible….”But peace is godly. War is not”…..read about the original establishment of the state of Israel or the subjugation of its people not once but TWICE by the Almighty through WAR…..want to know how Jesus in His Second Coming defeats the forces of Satan?….WAR….governments are established on earth to manage people by God….who is it that starts the wars?….GOVERNMENTS….another name for the Holy Bible by its detractors is “that bloody book” because of its descriptions of WARS and killing
Was this anticipated by the global financial system, and was such an anticipation at least partly responsible for the stand-down of Trudeau?
The Deep State has no visibility. They are simply reacting to events. Turdeau’s actions are an example of that. Look at how Doug Ford and Jagmeet Singh are reacting. It is like gopher calling out there.
Putin understood this and had the goods on Biden. Putin had a deal with Biden then decided to double-cross him because he could. Now, he is looking at running up the score by taking all of Ukraine because he can.
The global financial system is riding out the storm. It will move in the direction of greatest stability. These types of events are studied and gamed, or they should be. We will know within the next day or two if there is a gameplan to respond to Putin.
I think there is no game plan and Europe is making up plays as we go along. Europe expects the US to run the show. Europe then wants the discretion to criticize (Monday morning quarterback).
This isn’t about a war …this is about Putin putting an end to the Onslaught of Corruption and money laundering and sex trafficing in the Ukraine. Its about the Pelosi’s and the Bidens and the Kerrys and all of the elite and politicians who “Launder” theri dirty money through the Ukraine. Biden told the world right on “Video-tape” that he did a Quid Pro Quo for a Billion $ in Ukraine…..and they made him President !
You can’t really think that Putin gives a hoot about corruption, money laundering or sex trafficking.
Putin is making an administrative move to strengthen his position globally and bring more assets under his control.
He’s not stepping up to be a enforcer of law and order, lol.
Oh, yes, Putin does give a great deal more than a hoot about those things.
And he’s strengthening his global position, as opposed to . . . the U.S.?
And he’s not stepping up to be an “enforcer” of law and order, LOL!!!, like the U.S. government is?
Really?
Putin wants to replace “their” corruption with his corruption. This is one mafia don taking out other mafia dons.
There will be changes at the top but things will remain the same for those “down in the bowels” of society.
Iran always alluded to bribery of european leaders. It was thought Russia helped sell Iranian oil. I suspect Pakistan is helping with banking system access. Then you have China who can pitch in.
It’s important to remember that the US and EU helped overthrow the Ukrainian government in 2014 and Biden has been taking advantage of the country ever since – don’t forget about Burisma! Here’s a timeline:
https://wholistic.substack.com/p/russia-invades-ukraine-some-context
Perhaps Russia will bomb the numerous biolabs in Ukraine?
I would be shocked if anyone in Europe will do anything meaningful.
I hear we are sanctioning luxury items. Um …
The Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians
by Vladimir Putin – 2021
(He just had his soldiers re-read this speech on the history of Russia and the “Rus”)
“Therefore, modern Ukraine is entirely the product of the Soviet era. We know and remember well that it was shaped – for a significant part – on the lands of historical Russia. To make sure of that, it is enough to look at the boundaries of the lands reunited with the Russian state in the 17th century and the territory of the Ukrainian SSR when it left the Soviet Union”
https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2021/08/15/the-historical-unity-of-russians-and-ukrainians/
I think he thinks he’s gathering his fatherlands.
He doesn’t want Ukraine to continue as an anti-Russian colony of the global elites.
No wonder Kyiv named a street after John McCain after the 2014 Coup – (color revolution)
“First, I did not anticipate Russia going beyond their allied region in Eastern Ukraine. I was wrong.”
You analyzed the situation logically and can’t be held responsible when people behave illogically or seem to be behaving illogically anyway..
I’m betting Ukraine is thinking they were short-changed on their “insurance” premiums.
Mass arrests reported as Russians protest Putin’s invasion of Ukraine
Feb. 24, 2022
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/russians-protest-ukraine-invasion-with-mass-arrests-reported-11645726398
At least 167 people who participated in antiwar protests have been detained by government officials in Russia, according to a Reuters report.
Putin confirms this action is legal under the Canadian National Emergency Act.
My favorite comment of the day. ^^^^^
I suspect those protestors held unacceptable views. 167 is a fringe minority.
There is not a damn thing Biden can do because when it comes to the Ukraine…..The whole Biden and Kerry Family are “Compromised” !
Does this mean there will a pause in mail order brides?
Now NBC is reporting that Brandon has been given a “menu” of Cyber attack options designed to cripple the Russians ability to carry on their operations in Ukraine.
Well good luck with that!! Joe!! you do understand that cyber attacks go both ways, do you not?
Now why would NBC know of such things…
Election Fraud put Joe Biden in the White House.
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The biggest Election Fraud in American history
happened in the 2020 election.
Lovely, Putin gets Ukraine, China will get Taiwan, and all we get is homeless illegals from every country south of the border along with those from Africa.
Yes, and reflecting on this, I am curious if it is their reward for helping Biden in 2020. 🤔
You nailed it! So my republican Senator says we have to send our boys and girls over there to get killed. While we know they should stay right here to defend our boarder. I’m crying cause PDJT was on it and fixing it all.
Was he offered a piece and took the whole pie, DC was evacuating Ukraine did they know he would take it all and shut down the games, or was it a surprise, a lot of dark money.