Candace Owens likely felt some need to follow up on her interview with President Trump due to overwhelming opinion of Trump’s vaccine position. Unfortunately, she attempts to reconcile President Trump’s position by casting aspersions toward him [Daily Mail Article].
Mrs. Owens reconciles President Trump’s support for the three COVID-19 vaccines by saying he’s too old to understand the troublesome vaccine information and doesn’t use the internet for his research. WATCH:
https://youtu.be/IBOk3b3BJjM
President Trump’s position on the vaccines –as a tool in the arsenal to combat the pandemic– is essentially unremarkable. Trump supports the vaccines that were developed, under the goal of providing protection for people against the SARS-CoV-2 virus, by the scientific community. However, President Trump repeatedly insists that no one should be mandated to take the vaccine.
The essential Trump position has consistently been:
‘The American and international scientific and medical establishment have determined that SARS-CoV-2 represents a significant threat to public health. In response, the United States Center for Disease Control (CDC), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH); in coordination with the World Health Organization (WHO) and various governments around the globe, have worked with scientists and pharmaceutical companies to develop vaccines to be deployed under emergency authorizations. Those vaccines are available for the American public to consider and use, if a person is worried about their health risk.’
That’s it, that’s the sum total of President Trump’s position.
Trump doesn’t feel people should be pressured, forced, coerced or mandated to take a vaccine. Nor should anyone be subject to discrimination or division based on their unique medical decision. Vaccination is an individual choice, and President Trump has said, repeatedly, he respects anyone’s decision either way, and the federal government should not be involved. From my perspective, this is non-controversial.
Additionally, despite the proclamations of many who have even written on these comment sections, this position is not only the same as Florida Governor ¹Ron DeSantis, but also identical.
Again, position encapsulated: “Here’s what the professionals who work for your federal government have come up with, use them as you see beneficial to yourself and your family.”
In addition to the vaccine development approach, in 2020 President Trump authorized the U.S. medical community to work collaboratively to immediately provide therapeutic options and antibody treatments as tools and resources for doctors and infected patients to use in treatment.
Critics of President Trump have argued that the former president should now be taking a strong position in opposition to the vaccines as a result of new information which undermines the original efficacy of them. The vaccines now require boosters, and the vaccines do not stop the spread of infection, ergo they are useless or potentially worse, might cause harm.
Despite these issues, the position of the United States government has not changed, and all of the previous U.S. medical institutions who advised on the original approach toward vaccination against the pandemic have not reversed their position. Those are the current decision makers for public health, not Donald Trump.
The public ire directed toward President Trump would be more appropriately targeted toward the professionals in the scientific and medical establishment who are in the current position to make a modification or reversal in their approach.
There are many people using hindsight to criticize President Trump saying: with revelations over the past two years the entire U.S. medical establishment no longer holds credibility. However, at the time those original pandemic mitigation decisions were made, and President Trump activated a Cornavirus Taskforce led by Vice President Mike Pence, how many American people really understood the political nonsense happening deep inside the CDC, FDA and NIH?
It’s fair to say almost no one knew how corrupt those institutions of U.S. public health were at the time when the first concerns of the COVID virus were raised. Similarly, few people knew how corrupt the FBI and U.S. intelligence apparatus was in 2016 when those institutions were spying on and targeting candidate Trump. Most of the identified revelations of historic corruption surface only as a result of investigations after the fact.
Approximately two-thirds of the American population have taken the vaccine shot(s), and a large number of them are currently in the process of getting boosters. We can only imagine what would happen if the U.S. government was to officially state the vaccinations are now determined to be detrimental in some manner or form. That’s why it is certain, regardless of the danger or lack thereof from the vaccination itself, the U.S. government will never, ever, reverse course on their claims of vaccine safety, or even value.
Expecting some entity or individual in the United States to be capable of forcing the United States government, or any medical institution within it, to admit they are potentially harming the public – is an exercise in futility. It will never happen. Ever. That Rubicon was crossed well over a year ago.
We are now at the point where the FDA is authorizing, under emergency use processes, just about anything the medical establishment tells them to authorize. Which, understandably, has resulted in even fewer people participating in anything the FDA, CDC and NIH come up with.
Is the COVID-19 virus, or any iteration of a variant therein, likely no worse than a severe flu strain? The answer to that has always been, maybe. When you layer on sunlight showing how political the FDA, CDC & NIH institutions are, the answer shifts to ‘more than likely.’ However, we are operating now with a hindsight that was not available before, and even now data is still kept from the overwhelming majority of the American people, and Big Tech has been instructed to do exactly that.
Candace Owens reconciles President Trump’s position by saying, “he’s old” and “he doesn’t use the internet for his own research.” To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of the stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.
I said at the early phase of the COVID fear and pandemic rising how we were fortunate to have Donald Trump in the White House, because his general disposition is to permit individual states and individual people to make their own decisions.
At a time, when COVID panic was at its apex, Trump could have gone full totalitarian dictator, and few would have flinched. But he didn’t… instead he urged calm and told the American people to act prudently, but do not allow fear to overcome us.
All of the issues around vaccines are related to scientific and medical community practices. Neither Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis is a scientist or a doctor, and they can only rely upon the opinions, suggestions and recommendations provided to them by experts in these fields.
It is one thing for you and me to have research-based opinions on vaccines that may or may not align with scientific consensus. It is another kettle-o-fish entirely for Donald Trump to have an opinion, where his public statements are weighted toward national policy for public health.
I specifically remember when President Trump told us from the White House podium that the media-driven hype over the COVID-19 “was a hoax,” and the industrial media complex, along with both sides of the political spectrum and the total scientific medical community, blasted him for downplaying the SARS-CoV-2 risk.
From where I sit, given the scale of what has taken place, President Trump’s current position is stable and non-controversial. Essentially, here’s the vaccine tools they say will help, decide for yourself.
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[¹] It is noted there’s a strong correlation between Ted Cruz supporters 2016 and many current Ron DeSantis promoters in 2021.
Without the absolute Right to choose , do you even own your own body ?
yes, and no.
let me give a brief bible review that speaks to this very issue:
Second, Biblical verses are believed to be relevant to vaccinations, such as 1 Corinthians 6:19: “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own.”
you DO own choices….but in fact, you do not OWN your your body! God MADE YOU. He Perfected you. Intentionally abusing your body is a sin and that does have effects on the relationship you have with God. That is to say, you have the NATURAL (GOD GIVEN) RIGHTS to make choices about your body, but this passage also makes it very clear those choices can and will have consequences to your Holy Spirit if you are abusing the body. Choices matter.
My mothers has a charm all of her own. She claims that tattoos, piercings, even ridiculous ornaments and jewelry is a form of abuse to the temple body. She believes that people who willfully redecorate the body as demonstrating some kind of protest and insubordination and insolence to God’s perfect design for humans. She believes those that sin in this way, vanity, sloth, etc, are committing sins. Sins that erode the Holy Spirit. But the bible is interesting here. the bible is specifically addressing that humans take great care to preserve their bodies, as temple ….GOD designed containers of the Holy Spirit. Formed perfectly to allow the physical human body and the holy spirit to co-exist.
If we accept that our Bodies are the direct result of God’s Creation and that he has specifically instructed to take great care of it for reasons of the Holy Spirit that dwells IN YOUR BODY. Then I will take it on faith completely that is what I should be doing.
when the state is mandating the jab, they are taking away my choices to care for my own body.
The state mandates are undermining God’s design. In two ways.
make no mistake about it.
God is very clear on this. you do NOT OWN your own body. But you have the responsibility to care for it and to preserve and allow the Holy Spirit to Thrive and be a great source of power and vessel for your relationship with God. The state is attacking the body AND YOU with these mandates. The state is mocking GOD and stealing your body…which they can never truly own, but knowing how many people will comply, offers them the benefit of a population that has a weakened Holy Spirit.
lets me finish with this: It IS my belief that satan is very much present in this situation and his demons have possesed a very large segment of “policy makers” it was easy. All he had to do is sell them the idea that they could get god like power, accumulate wealth power and prestige…all while saving the planet.
that is how satan operates…deception…whispers of false promises..the lure of easy street. And it all feels right too. What man or woman would not be excited about the prospect of saving lives and making a killing?
Your Body is not your own. it is also not the property of the state. Your body was designed by God to be the temple of the Holy Spirit that dwells in you. He designed it this way and has instructed us ALL to take great care of that body and also the holy spirit by remaining in good relationships with God, through Jesus Christ.
Knowingly injecting mRNA into your body, isn’t going to put you in hell. But it is going to affect the fitness of your body and thus Holy Spirit. And that means reduced quality of your relationship with God. God doesn’t mince words here.
treat your body as a temple. Because it literally IS a temple. And arguably, it is the only bona fide “temple” that God has ever made. The bible does not say, the state has the choice over the condition and health of your body. The bible makes it very clear it is YOUR RESPONSIBLE AND YOUR NATURAL RIGHTS (GIVEN BY GOD) to maintain the health of your body.
noting: this IS the essence of the religious exemption argument. And it has been favorably supported numerous landmark cases in law here in the US. The entire doctrine that the Body is not to be abused and how unsafe or harmful drugs are to be avoided to prevent the erosion of the Holy Spirit is a legitimate legal argument.
We believe the body is not our OWN. We believe the choices we are instructed to obey do not allow anyone else to make or force the decisions about out bodies.
also noting: fundamentally this same argument spans the abortion murder spree, but with clear and unambiguous consequences. snuffing out the live of little human beings, unguarded by the edicts of the state and faithless wanderers who don’t even pause to consider what they are actually doing is a direct sin against God’s creation. I am tempted to contemplate if this could be a unforgivable sin. To sin AGAINST the HOLY SPIRIT. You snuff out the life of a little human being, a body, with no choices in the matter…That Small human being ..the body and the holy spirit..snuffed out…institutionalized murder spree. I can’t imagine a more direct attack on the primacy of God!
Mr Trump was a wonderful president….I prayed for a George Washington like person to win 2016 and Mr Trump soon announced his candidacy…..he was exactly who we needed…..and still need.
The PSYOP trolls are playing thos up on every social media network. They are trying to divide us before they bury us
Don’t let them win.
And, there are PSYOP Trolls posting on this site.
Tells me that “someone” is over the target! 😉 Get ‘em Sundance! 😆
Along with steadfast conservatives genuinely concerned that Trump should modify his stance.
I noticed that too. I have Lefty acquaintances who have Trump literally living in their heads. I can go weeks without discussing DJT, but when I run into them I continually get the narrative “Trump is planning a civil war to institute totalitarian control of America”.
Not surprising CNN brings this up… (yawn)
Indeed. They want the pre Trump 2014 GOP back and PT gone.
They did the same theater with the Tea Party; once in, thanks only to the efforts and support of the Tea Party, were turned on, maligned, insulted, mocked. Same play, different stage. And it’s made all the more obvious by those who say ‘that’s it for me, I’m going DeSantis 2024, screw Trump’, who are either ignorant of, or are consciously manipulative, of DeSantis’ vax stance that exactly mirrors Trump’s.
He is such a busy man, he probably doesn’t have the time that someone like myself does to do the research into what is going on. He also doesn’t have really good information given to him…..his people are not all trustworthy. I still like the man and think he did a great job while he was in office, but don’t think the current resident really likes the population he is supposed to be “leading?” The current resident will never be considered MY President, just a resident of the white house.
Candace Owens probably is correct.
PDJT needs to be red-pilled.
Who is going to do that. His son?
Who is going to talk to his son?
Candace ? I suggest Candace for VP
I suggest you read the articles before commenting on the headlines.
The answer to your question is no one is going to “red pill” Donald Trump. The best you can hope for is to get PDJT back in charge and he will remove government, writ large, from the equation – letting you decide for yourself.
Totally agree Sundance. I am not a fan of Candace Owens, especially considering her stupid explanation for Trumps current position that he is old and not internet savy.
I liked her for maybe five minutes. But quickly identified her as a self-aggrandizing fool without a stable set of meaningful values.
We don’t need to canabalize one of our own because of this situation. She just doesn’t quite understand the dynamic of this particular issue. We aren’t all perfect. Even we on this site disagree from time to time.
What I think this illuminates in regards to Mrs Owens is, she spoke before doing her homework. She allowed emotion and rationalization to guide her on this matter rather than listen to PDJT.
And quite honestly, while dumb in her line of thinking, her goal was to make us keep faith in Donald J Trump as our fearless leader.
When I first read about what PDJT said, I too was angry. But before I cast him off I decided to read his actual quote.
When reading that quote, it was clear he was saying that Covid wasn’t killing people who were vaxxed. (And I disagree with that, but it’s not 100% apparent at this point). He wasn’t saying that vaccines weren’t killing people. That small piece seems to be one of the biggest dividers amongst us.
And to add to what Sundance said about PDJTs necessary presence back in power to end the governments roll in Covid all together, I say this….
If he is again the Republican nomination, and Xiden or another commie is his competitor, if you don’t go out and vote for Trump in that situation, you are not someone I EVER want to know. Whether personally or hypothetically.
We have witnessed what PDJT will do if he’s in charge. And that was 4 years with his hands and feet tied behind his back. And he was better than any president in modern history. On his second go around, the entire propaganda arsenal will be wiped out from the totalitarians. He will have his bindings removed. And a PDJT that is unencumbered will rain down hell fire unimpeded, and restore our once great Republic back to its rightful position as the greatest nation in earths history.
And that is exactly where I want to be again in my immediate lifetime. For myself, my friends, and most importantly for my children…
Respectfully disagree. Don’t put yourself out there if you don’t study the facts and know what’s going on. I don’t care how big of a star you may be on Internet sites.
“He wasn’t saying that vaccines weren’t killing people.”
Looking at the double-negative sentence structure:
~(He wasn’t saying that vaccines weren’t killing people.)=(he was saying that vaccines were killing people.)
He said no such thing. To the contrary, he praised the mRNA injection as one of mankind’s greatest achievements.
Well said Bshaw at this point nobody has the instinct of President Trump and you are correct. Trump will be unleashed and will rain down hellfire on our enemies. The enemies of the United States need to be destroyed entirely.
So, because she is not a Trump sycophant and has an independent viewpoint, she should be “cancelled?” Trump is not a god, and there’s a good argument that he is not even a good politician. But he cannot even be questioned? That sounds more like a system that might have arisen under Stalin, not in an American republic. Sycophants are engaged in a cult of personality, which is as far from the American ideal as you can possibly get. Trump expresses political opinions. The most American response possible is to question those opinions, to determine their validity.
Present your case that he *is not a good politician*. To say that, with any expectation of being taken with even a grain of intellectual maturity and awareness, is to expect to refuted and ridiculed for the willful myopia and prevarication inherent in that statement. The economy, energy independence, uniquely unprecedented cordiality with North Korea, Russia, even China, Abraham Accords, record employment, increased domestic manufacture. No, this kind of blunt wielding of inane wedges to divide, as we’ve witnessed so tiresomely and predictably since the birth of the Tea Party, is not going to be met with much in the way of civility and tolerance for the *throw the baby out with the bathwater* strategy. Just no. If you need Trump or ANYONE to specifically tell you what to do with your body, you should not be voting. If you can not appreciate the free will inherent in choice, YOU are approaching Stalin far more than anyone.
Tory, I can’t tell you how many times that old adage “throwing the baby out with the bathwater” has popped into my mind when reading some of the “Trump needsta” and “Trump shoulda” diatribes constantly reiterated here.
[That said, haven’t encountered any seriously egregious ones on this thread so far – but it’s early… 😆]
Everyone has an opinion on him, but none can claim to have done what he has done for the country. I don’t mind opinions or criticism, it is everyone’s right to express them.
But it’s also my right to roll my eyes and scroll right past them. Speed-reading comes in so handy when encountering yet another outright attack on PDJT that I have read here literally hundreds of times!
And by egregious attack, I mean the silly insinuations that PDJT is part of the Deep State. Those are everywhere on the web right now. Someone is spending a whole lot of propaganda moolah.
I know that any criticism of Trump on this website is likely to be met with hostility. No one was a bigger supporter of him in 2016 that I was – I canvassed for him in PA and encountered several physical threats in the process – one armed. I supported him because of what he said he’d do.
Trump did a lot of good, but there are also many examples of his lack of political acumen. Just a few would include his signing of the “jailbreak” legislation, his comments that we want “more immigration than ever before,” and his disastrous Covid response, foisting the incompetent Leftist Fauci on the nation, and giving cover to governors to institute the calamitous lockdowns.
But that wasn’t my point. My point was that we are not leftists, and we do not shut down debate because we hear an opinion we don’t agree with. We answer those opinions with our own opinions, and let the debate take its course.
Let’s not forget, she floated the idea of potentially running for president.
The world is full of people who think they can do it better.
Was there a president in the last 100 years that did more for the American people and American economic stability than President Trump? No.
Economic security is national security.
We live in dire times, the NWO, the rise of fascism here and abroad, the woke fixation which they are tooling to deny us of autonomy and freedom overall, the comprehensive overreach of the Fourth Branch of Government.
There is no one I think better qualified than Donald Trump to address these issues. That includes De Santis. He’s a rising star, yes, but PDJT was on the world stage already and succeeded on our behalf.
Yup. 100%!
Donald Trump is not going to be back in charge because the system is corrupt beyond repair.
Worst of all is that the people have lost a moral compass and there is no talk about that.
I hear always that we are victims of the corrupt system. We need a “mea culpa” movement.
an “I Repent, Repent and Repent” movement. To move forward we all need to be red-pilled about that including PDJT.
And by the way I have immense respect for you and for PDJT the best president ever. Thanks.
I only visit your site and another one. You both are my contact with reality. God bless.
You’re looking at a Crystal Ball made in China. You do not know that DJT is not going to be back in charge. No one knows, not even DJT.
empirical science is a science.
Politics is not a science., it is more of an artform… mostly for rats.
Political science is a social science.
He hasn’t proven election fraud while complaining about it and earning endless scorn. And Trump supported all the traitors who said the election was fair and honest. Kemp, Raffensberger, Michelle Ugenti-Whatever, Karen Fann… these people let a fraudulent election stand.
How can he prove election fraud when courts in blue states won’t hear the case?
President Trump hasn’t proven gravity either but I’m not shopping for gravity boots yet.
Please state a specific plan for which you think he should follow. Do you seriously think he himself can usurp the corrupt legislatures, State AGs, courts, GOP?He’s been going up and down every avenue. It’s more up to YOU and ME to be aggressive with all of those entities. A few of us can not negotiate this, there must be widespread willingness to work at being a PITA to all of them. Look at the European response to vax mandates….do you see any of that here, for example? Fact, we are, as a whole, lazy armchair quarterbacks who think Someone Else™ is going to magically bring justice.
100% Sundance.
One of the gifts from President Trump is to pull questionable people out into the sunlight for MAGAs to see them for what they are.
At this time in 2021, Candace and Billlly O,R. are not President Trump’s friends.
You can tell it by their coup plotting editing of their interviews and their post comments.
The coup plotters look for weak people who can be corrupted to turn against President Trump. If they had shown some support for President Trump in the past, all the better.
Candace and Billy O’R. fit the bill.
From now on, throw those two onto the ash pile of “consider the source.”
They have made their bones for the commie, covid, criminal gang.
“Let’s go Brandon!”
I don’t think we should coddle Trump on this one.
I think he did a great job as president. Especially since all the money in the world was against him, along with the deep state.
My view is he set the standard of what a President should be, and he made us all very proud. His handling of the covid crisis was exemplary. It is not his fault that others around him were operating on their own interest including Pence.
Warp speed was the right thing to do, and he pulled out all the stops to get it going. We may never again have a President as good as Trump. We have to face that.
Candace may be right on how he gets his information. This issue was not born overnight. The pressure has been building for some time. The weapon that Trump takes credit for to fight the virus is now the weapon used against the people.
This is the issue. It does not matter what Trump accomplished in the past. It matters what Trump does now.
You live in mask free Florida. I live in masked LA where you now have to show proof of vax to dine in. People have struggled with job or no job over the vax. My daughter has been threatened with loss of her job over the vax.
The people are simply asking for help and Trump is not stepping up to the plate. That he does not approve of mandates is not enough to energize his base in his favor.
Trump is a private citizen. He owes me nothing and I expect nothing. Therefore, I will not be disappointed whatever he decides to do.
Trump is our murder weapon or Trump was our murder weapon. He is a big boy and can figure out what he chooses for his path forward. The people are looking for help and expect more than him patting himself on the back.
Agree. Warp speed was the right thing to do for a president.
Reputation for big pharma in a functioning society should have been a good incentive for them to come up with a good solution in a short time. But today reputation can be bought so they went for the option that gives them a newer ending stream of money to buy good reputation and conquer the world. Meanwhile the FBI is investigating Project Veritas.
Sorry, but you seem to forget, GOD helps those who help themselves. This nation, or even just one state, can not expect one man to “cure” everything that has gone wrong. He did what he could with his hands tied, and I didn’t see many trying to help. He did step up to the plate while he was in office, but the opposition lasted him at every turn; simply cause they didn’t/don’t like him personally. There are a lot of folks I haven’t liked personally in my long life, but I never let them see it if I could help it. His enemies –well, enough said they hated him, so nobody else needs to say it. Besides, in my book, the person with the hate within them has a bigger problem than the person they hate…and the “other side” of the fence seems to be filled with those who hate. don’t let conservatives become the same.
“GOD helps those who help themselves.”
God helps the helpless.
God has occasionally favored his people with a Deliver when their enemies became too numerous: Gideon, Samson, Jeptha, and Jehu broke the enemy’s yoke of oppression.
Samson was a one-man army but Gideon employed a small detachment to gain a great victory.
Both the mighty man and ordinary citizens are welcome to join the fray.
The mighty man does not have the luxury of sulking in his tent, he needs to be on the scaling ladder.
He’s not a savior, he’s not the Savior. That so many have the misplaced expectation that he should be, or that they expect/ed him to be, so much so that he himself has to remind people that he is no more elevated by God than we are, but willing to actually walk the walk, is a rather frightening reminder of how apathetic and lazy *the people*, as a whole. It takes more than him, and to put the sole onus and burden on him alone to *save the people* is so fundamentally childish and irresponsible, that it beggars belief. I don’t need someone to tell me what to do, or what I should take or not take…do you? To hinge his political future on OUR physical and intellectual laziness and apathy is the penultimate example of the idiom about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Candace is wrong on this one.
my grandfather had a saying:
You can’t put an old head on young shoulders.
Take what she and everyone with limited life experience say with large grains of salt. Perhaps one day they will look back a rue their foolish hubris.
Meh. Candace does not strike me as a Margaret Thatcher or Golda Meir.
I think Sarah Palin would have been lovely…..which is why they dirtied her up.
I agree, Sarah Palin was the only reason I voted for McStain.
That’s funny. He doesn’t do something that you think he should and he needs to be red pilled. We’re not Democrats. We all don’t walk lockstep with ideology and purity. Candice Owens for VP. I’ve noticed how whenever someone says something good that makes them a good candidate. Words don’t make the candidate, action does
Yes, Actions instead of JUST Words.
You forgot to add /s folloing VP so I fixed it for you.
/i for irony since she would be much better of what we have today
and she would have been better than pence
The first however many names in the phone book would have been better than what we have today.
It’s not exactly a high bar!
“To me that is not only curt and ridiculous, that position shows me Mrs. Owens does not understand the importance of stable mindedness needed for success at the scale of a United States president.”
Candace seems to show herself a divider, not a uniter. Trump has reasons for what he said of which she has no clue! Sell by date past!
Candace Owens is quick on her feet on Fox News and camera ready. Please research her background.
There was no opportunity or money for anti-Trump liberals in 2015 so she headed out to David Horowitz’s Freedom Center in California, a stellar group, and with her good looks and ability to norph into a conservative(she is a quick study) she was on her way to making a name for herself, which she had been trying to do as a liberal. They loved her.
Then, later, when she headed to Africa with Van Jones, the communist and Obama and Jarrett’s buddy, that should have been a big clue to those who cannot tell the real thing from an opportunist.
It should not surprise anyone that she would use ageism as a response to PT’s support of the vaccine. It’s a silly but revealing statement not about PT but about who she really is and has always been.
It also should be noted that her Blexit movement was highly overrated as PT had already gained huge support from blacks. The PR she amassed was built on his success.
I think basically Owens is a faux conservative and a really good self promoter. In other words, she is no threat to the left.
PDJT’s only misstep is to have given her an interview. He would do well to be interviewed by a coal miner or the parents fighting school boards or a homeless veteran.
Do you have some articles I can read that discuss her running around with Van Jones and the left et al?
I didn’t know any of this and if it’s true, then I take back my defense of her. She’s just another Hillary, Cruz, and on and on.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9231611/The-View-hosts-slammed-criticizing-Van-Jones-taking-selfies-Candace-Owens.html
Well, the selfie he took at the White House with her not only implicates her but Kushner who is friendly with him also.
Her standing and practically hugging Jones is so gross. This man is almost single handily responsible for the war on police in the last 30 years. He admits to being a communist and starting the anti-police Soros funded Ella Baker Center to go to war with police. In the late 90’s, in order to infiltrate the halls of political power, he “dropped the radical pose for the radical ends.” IOTW, he learned how to infiltrate through a GQ persona his enemies’ camp. I must have seen this photo of her and Jones and the story of Africa at the same time. Sorry, do not want to pass on misinformation. I must admit the only reason I can think of for PT to have him at the WH for the criminal justice reform First Step Act was he let a snake in and Kushner is a total liberal.
Her Africa trip was with Kanye West who later accused her of stealing his logo for her Blexit campaign. She ended up apologizing for not giving him credit or money for the logo.
Her recent comment about PDJT and his ignorance about researching and the internet sounds exactly like something Jones would say. She really fumbled this one, it’s almost akin to comparing PT to demented Biden.
In 2014-2015 she bashed the tea party, Republicans, Trump and then said she woke up one morning and had an epiphany. I have nothing against awakenings but to go from an awakening to the White House in 3 years AFTER her previous marketing venture against conservatives fell through in 2015 is too coinicidental.
Yep.
I can’t reconcile Candace Owens making such a stupid remark. She blew her credibility with me.
Also, I was thinking the same thing about DeSantis…DeSantis supports the vaccine, he is not anti-vaccine, and the first thing he did was make sure all the “old” people got shots. So what’s the difference between DeSantis and Trump besides nothing. It would not surprise me if sleazy Ted Cruz was behind this anti-Trump push. I thought it was Dem trolls, but maybe not.
LOL Lyin’ Ted!
Sorry, I don’t blame people when they are so disillusioned by idiots and Marxists in power, they are on high alert and if they think they smell a rat, they try to raise the issue. President Trump can’t fight every battle. But He should not promote the Jab at his rallies. Read the room, Not a bright move. EFF Ted Cruz and every Senator that didn’t support recess appointments. ie – ALL OF THE UNIPARTY
Could be he doesn’t give a flyin fig about running in 2024. Why should he?
So, what happens if he comes out and reads the room and changes his position on the jab?
Think about it.
Never forget this:
EFF Ted Cruz and every Senator that didn’t support recess appointments. ie – ALL OF THE UNIPARTY
Trump is so much smarter than you think! Gotta get up early with DJT! He never says exactly what he’s doing.
Now that is something you can count on. If not mistaken, he even said so at one of his gatherings….he didn’t believe in giving the opposition that information in advance…..he’d rather surprise them.
Agreed….and it amazes me that, by now, so many have not learned to read between his lines and parse what he IS saying and what he is NOT saying.
People keep forgetting that Dr. Malone, architect of the Mrna platform, supports the vaccines. In one of his videos he says “they are safe and effective.” I’d link it here but I don’t have either the time or desire to rewatch his videos to find the correct one.
Indeed. Sadly I believe one must if they are to remain a national figure. Because if one doesn’t say at least that much, one will be disappeared…..and then other information , such as treatments, cannot get out. And there won’t be any political figures saying no to mandates.
Here’s part of what Dr. Malone said in an email today calling for people to attend a January 23 rally to Defeat Vaccine Mandates. Doesn’t sound like he still thinks they are “safe and effective””
If there has been one constant throughout these last two years, it has been the gross mismanagement and incompetence of government officials tasked with the public health response. How can we trust them to make intelligent, data-based decisions in the future? How can you trust them to decide what is best for your children? No, you have to personally own these decisions now. They will not be there to help if you or your child are damaged by these vaccines. And you will get no legal or financial relief. Both Pfizer and governments have been absolved of all legal accountability. You will have to bear that burden, financially and psychologically, for the rest of your life and that of your child. In short, the issues here are much larger than just the specific examples of data manipulation, propaganda, censorship, advanced character assassination techniques, misrepresentation of the safety and effectiveness of these genetic vaccines, and suppression of the early treatment protocols empirically developed and tested by front line physicians from all over the world.
It’s a long email; you can read the whole thing here: https://greatawakening.win/p/140vViHCIL/the-following-is-an-email-receiv/
Here is a video of Dr. Malone saying that ADE was appearing to commence back in July: https://www.bitchute.com/video/righfqyyjUKq/
And here he is, today, saying that the vaccines may permanently injure or kill your child: https://www.bitchute.com/video/jUFqSdrhN5xj/
He says “the reason they’re giving you to vaccinate your child is a lie.” “Protect your children and do not give them this unproven vaccine”.
The last one in particular is very serious. So, I think it’s incorrect to say he supports the vaccines or thinks they are “safe and effective”.
If I remember right, Dr. Malone said a year and a half ago that he would not take an mRNA vaccine.
Interesting. I remember his stance in the summer of 2021 was that vaccines were still advisable for the very high-risk. I remember clearly because I am high-risk as an elderly person and I kept thinking nope, that won’t be happening in my case.
It’s also why, when I heard him change that stance sometime this month, I also noticed it.
Many here want PDJT to be “redpilled.” Well, evidently Dr. Malone has been so. And in his field, he has every reason to be.
for certain high risk people, not for everyone. He has said as much in many videos as have many others.And these were the earlier ones, not the more recent ones. Almost all those opposing have seen enough data to highlight how very risky these are and generally ineffective. If you are sure to die from COVID, maybe but those people are far and few between.
Now with all the alternatives COVID is no longer a death sentence for the vast majority of the population, but the vaccine is.
Uh, the “vaccine” is not yet proven a death sentence for a majority of the population. Time could easily reveal that, though; I’m not ruling it out.
For that matter, life itself is a death sentence no one can avoid. That one’s provable now. 😉
(Sorry if I sound quibbly – but I dislike sweeping misleading statements…)
I agree entirely with you that Dr. Malone has changed and modified his spoken opinion along with changing data. And that is exactly what a true scientist should do!
Dr Malone on Dec 14 2021:
“There are three issues parents need to understand:
● The first is that a viral gene will be injected into your children’s cells. This gene forces your child’s body to make toxic spike proteins. These proteins often cause permanent damage in children’s critical organs, including
○ Their brain and nervous system
○ Their heart and blood vessels, including blood clots
○ Their reproductive system
○ And this vaccine can trigger fundamental changes to their immune system
● The most alarming point about this is that once these damages have occurred, they are irreparable
○ You can’t fix the lesions within their brain
○ You can’t repair heart tissue scarring
○ You can’t repair a genetically reset immune system, and
○ This vaccine can cause reproductive damage that could affect future generations of your family”
More at: https://www.informedchoiceaustralia.com/post/dr-robert-malone-on-vaccinating-children
He does not support them any more. Over the past few weeks since Omicron Dr. Malone has said clearly and publicly that he now thinks no one should take them.
I saw this on a couple of videos, in particular a long one (sadly I lost the URL) in which he and Dr. McCullough were on the same podcast exchanging information. Very rich in data and real science…
It always makes sense to keep an eye on the neverTrumpers, of whom Cruz once was one, and I always suspect could become one again in a heartbeat.
Very few of them have come around in a way that I trust – there are a couple but their names don’t spring to mind…
Mr Sundance sir, you have crystallized my thoughts. Have a blessed evening, and thank you.
ps, please write a book, on any subject. Your snark makes me snicker
I watched Candace Owen testifying before a congressional committee several years back. Highly unimpressive.
Not to be crass or racist, but were she not black she would not be well received by conservatives. She’s not that smart.
She is a Warrior. Leave her alone. Save it for the enemies.
Are you accusing conservatives of using blacks? Or, of applying some sort of affirmative action? Or am I just reading your statement incorrectly?
That’s a stupid comment.
You think we like her because she’s black?
“I Don’t mean to be Racist” but hmm
I don’t know what Candace Owens was thinking when she said & wrote what she did… I’d call it ‘a spirit of folly moment’ ! Candace has done much good educating & red-pilling Americans.
President Trump has hopefully saved the world by opening the world’s eyes to all the corruption we’re living in which makes up the global swamp.
DeSantis is saving Florida.
The American People must wake up, stop Pointing Fingers, know there is a much bigger, deeper, more evil scenario we’re living in and in the End Trump will be proven correct and right as has happenened every time before! Remember… President Trump Plays 5-d Chess & Adheres to Sun Tzu’s philosophy & tactics & methods… thank you for a great article sundown!
Sorry Sundance😉
I think it is the un-wisdom of her youth that made her justify Trump’s stance like that. She’s smart, but her wisdom is not yet fully developed. That’s okay, she can hone that. I think it was just one of those really dumb things we all say, in trying to smooth over a contentious situation.
Candance is young and was making millions a month on social media. There is much she has not experienced.
I don’t agree it’s because he’s old. I do agree that he’s not on SM and his advisors aren’t concerned enough about the jabs, actually killer jabs, they’re more concerned with Biden, and company. If he’s going to run, he won’t win if he doesn’t realize what they’re doing to people. The same can be said with DeSantis. These aren’t vaccines.
This idea that Trump isn’t on social media is so foolish.
He was the undisputed heavyweight champion of social media until they kicked him off… He’s launching his own social media platform within the next 60 days… And, meanwhile, his daily posts on his own site that his ace public media person, Liz Harrington, plasters all over social media are ‘must read’ flame throwing…
But he’s ‘not on social media’…. 🙄 … Okay, technically, for the moment.
Yes – I hear almost everything he says and see every issued statement (either through direct email or on gettr..).
Thanks to sundance for posting so many of his interviews right here!
“If he’s going to run, he won’t win if he doesn’t realize what they’re doing to people.”
Agree completely.
“President Trump’s current position is stable and non-controversial. ”
And that’s the problem. We know more than we did early on or a year ago. The landscape has shifted. Trump should know more also, and he should be out in front on this issue. At very least acknowledging the key elements of this shifting landscape. “As President I did what seemed right at the time based on guidance from experts, including “The Science”. This is not my field of expertise, but it now seems obvious that greed and conflicts of interest etc etc led to policy options that were potentially beneficial but in retrospective were less satisfactory than we might have wished for.”
No, as one of the central issues of our time, to have a place in America’s political future, he has to be up to speed on this matter, and come clean on the debacle this has become.
Come clean? HE didn’t brew the vax up in the WH basement. Coming clean implies a guilt that isn’t his to own. Fauci, Birx, CDC, all the so-called *medical experts*, are the ones who need to come clean for intentionally lying to and manipulating him and We the People. Let’s scape the right goats!
So, email him and tell him exactly when, in the larger picture of political timing, he should make that revelation, so that it gives maximum support to America First, and causes minimum damage by enabling America First’s enemies to push focus to the wrong thing.
Candace Owens is part of the Ben Shapiro machine…
I remember the lefties saying he does not read.
I have zero interest on her parroting of them.
I imagine she has to be mindful of where her bread is buttered…..as do all of the talking heads.
There are very few individuals opinions that hold weight with me. …
PDJT, Sundance and Crew, and my parents.
The only people who are true MAGA have been canceled into oblivion and are only on alt-media. bitchute, d-live, etc
Mann, I do listen to about a dozen different people when I have time, on various media …so there are some other patriots that I do find value in their perspective.
With that said I have many patriots in my life , so I enjoy talking with them the most.
Candace played herself as far as I am concerned.
“We can only imagine what would happen if the U.S. government was to officially state the vaccinations are now determined to be detrimental in some manner or form. That’s why it is certain, regardless of the danger or lack thereof from the vaccination itself, the U.S. government will never, ever, reverse course on their claims of vaccine safety, or even value.”
I remain convinced that Donald Trump is by far the greatest President in my lifetime (I’m over 60).
And that he handled the situations encountered better than anyone else could with the information known at the time.
With that being said, I personally will be most inclined to fully support those in the political sphere that attempt to tell the truth when new information and data comes to light. And not try to make excuses for continuing some level of deceit for some supposed larger good (continuity of government or whatever reason). In other words, just tell the truth, even if it differs from what you previously thought.
I do agree with the thought that Candace is not hitting the mark if she is writing off the POTUS’s ability to comprehend the truth due to his old age and lack of computer skills.
But in all likelihood, we will continue to be presented with supporting the “lessor of two evils” options. As we have been doing that for a very long time.
Excellent points, especially “I personally will be most inclined to fully support those in the political sphere that attempt to tell the truth when new information and data comes to light”.
In a crisis errors CAN be made, but must be exposed and corrected.
Timing matters too.
I respect his decision to get the jab. I also respect my 95 year old neighbor who decided she didn’t need it. She has actually lived through some actual pandemics.
Candace Owens just lost any credibility with such a ridiculous statement.
This is a great article and a roadmap for those of you who are lost in your thinking that President Trump has gone against his base.
Perfectly stated, Sundance. We have way too many Monday morning quarterbacks pontificating abour President’s positions re the so-called vaccines. I thing there is a serious effort ongoing by those who do not want him running in 2024, or even remaining as head of the Republican party. And those folks cover both sides of the uniparty. My wife and I remain unjabbed. But I still have friends that have been jabbed and I don’t push my feelings about this to them. Trump beats anything we currently have on the horizon and as long as he believes jabs should not be mandated, I am still with him.
His supporters are split. The older folks and the trusting kind, listen to the experts and their doctors. The other half, also most of his die hard supporters, stand firm against the corrupt medical and scientific establishments and the fake president. His position is therefore sensible and could be a political decision on his part.
Regardless, PDJT remains to be our most formidable political weapon against the globalist evil doers.
I would ask you to be cautious with stereotyping. At almost 70 I guess I’m “older folk” but to me an “expert” is a former high pressure leak and any respect I previously held has been long destroyed by the medical mafia. Don’t judge me bro.
“The older folks and the trusting kind, listen to the experts and their doctors…”
Who you talkin’ about, Floyd? I’m 77 and I do NOT just listen to the experts...
Sheesh.
My primary doc knows better that to argue with me–he inquired once about my interest in the shot. I’ve seen him several times since (in Oregon of all places) and he never brought it up again. We didn’t have any unpleasantness. He just knew I wasn’t looking for him to tell me what to think.
Generalizing is often not a good idea.
Be careful in your generalizations. I am a 79 year old supporter of PDJT, although I am upset with his position on the experimental shot.
Although I have had some vaccines in my life time, I have never had a flu shot and have no recollection of ever having the flu. I will not
have this mRNA shot either. Furthermore, I probably spend more time on the internet researching everything on Cov, treatment
therapies, and the shots than many of you much younger than I.
At 75, I’ve long since learned that experts and doctors all have an ax to grind, thank you very much.
Perfectly stated Sundance. Merry Christmas.
AGREED !!!
So what is your option? Serious question.
Sundance, let me ask you one question, the predicate for which is the assumption that Mr. Trump will indeed make another presidential run in 2024:
Given the coolness with which the audience in Dallas responded to his remarks about these shots, is it politically smart for Mr. Trump to continue publicly defending them?
Respectfully, he is President Trump. You know, the duly elected man who got more votes than any president to date. The one who had a coup successfully waged on him.
I hope that Trump runs in ’24, and that he wins. I do not expect him to accomplish anything– the Senate confirmation process will always prevent him from staffing his administration with people of his own choice. No, the best that we can hope for is that Trump will keep the enemy outside the gates a little longer. But at this point, what should have been a slam dunk renomination is becoming more and more doubtful because he is alienating a large segment of his base. Will they vote for someone else? Doubtful, but all they have to do is not show up and his goose will be cooked as surely as Romney’s was in ’12, and Clinton’s in ’16. What Trump is doing on this issue is, quite simply, bad retail politics.
Of course, her message will be used against Trump should he decide to run for office again. Because the left controls the media they will message Trump as “too old,etc.” while, at the same time, running out Joe Biden on stage drooling with a bib on. They just need the negative on Trump, being hypocritical doesn’t matter.
However, I’m really disappointed if Trump never took advantage of the writings of the “obscure internet”. Sundance, and several others I could name, could have greatly benefited him regarding Russia, Ukraine, etc.
Candace is, and always has been, a grifter.
I manage to have civil discussions about the jab, with most people who have taken it. The rest of them won’t talk to me about it without getting angry, and do stuff like disinvite me from Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Thanksgiving and Christmas have pretty much lost their meaning in the practice of those calendar days anyway! I wouldn’t worry about being disinvited, myself!
The problem is that he is saying that the unvaxxed are the one ones filling the hopsitals. Our enemies are using this against us now.
This has nothing to do with Candance and everything to do with his ego being unable to admit that the experimental drug that was emergency approved ( the vax was approved for Europe) is actually causing injuries.
Agree. Candace is the diversion.
She may have been put up as a diversion because our team hit back on that interview.
Exactly right.
The problem is that he is saying that the unvaxxed are the one ones filling the hopsitals. Our enemies are using this against us now.
When did he say this? I don’t remember hearing that at all. Would appreciate a citation.
Me too. We all love him but I don’t like him talking at his rallies and not helping the victims of these Jabs
Does Governor DeSantis also believe that the mRNA vaccines are “one of the greatest achievements of mankind”?
Oh, don’t worry. I have enough “ire” to go around to all involved and have plenty left over. I have a whole storage building where I keep it. There is no limit to my ire, and one who tells me where or where not to place it is subject to getting it.
Ever hear of Irish Alzheimer’s? They forget everything but a grudge. 🙂
See you at the Cotton Bowl? I’ll be on the opposite side of the stadium from you.
Something just hit me, Candace thinks PDJT is too old to use the internet, doesn’t read and only watches TV.
Did not the left say black people do not know how to use computers, cannot be taught to be proficient in reading, math, etc.
Hmmmm. Very paraell thinking on her part, yes.
Not only that, but also too stupid to get an I.D.!
Unfortunately, most of the public cannot make the finer distinctions.
Very well said. I would only add that, in my judgment, Trump’s ego will not allow him publicly to admit to a mistake of this magnitude. Indeed, I am not at all certain that his ego will permit him to admit to a mistake of any magnitude.
Candace…. You stupid slut.
if you are attempting to use Chevy Chase’s SNL slur against Jane Curtain it is “…you ignorant slut”
Wasn’t it Dan Akroyd?
This is the first time in 9 years I have seen such low class vulgar language used at the conservativetreehouse.
I hope I never do again as the CTH has always been a respectable site.
I have been flagging a few of the most flagrant examples but you are right. There is a noticeable lack of civility creeping into the discussions here.
Disappointing and unfortunate for sure. I’m sorry to see it happening.
IMO this site has always been considered a sort of a respite from what I’ve heard about other sites, blogs etc and the reason I’ve never even bothered visiting other places.
Oh, well…. c’est la vie I suppose.
Maybe a part of the confusion about whether the vaccines are hurtful or not for different people can be found in the results of a study that looked in depth at the different vaccine batch codes made for the Moderna, Pfizer and J&J vaccines. They don’t seem to be standardized according to the study results, so one batch of the same vaccine may have more problems and bad results than another. The study listed a website where someone who has taken the vaccine can check the complications for their batch number, which would be listed on their shot card.
the study: https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/uk-scientist-reveals-bombshell-data
the batch numbers w side effects: https://eventimages.de/jabquest/ (there was a US site but it was removed, but a German site has the information)
So if he tells you to get the jab will you?
Spot on! We are being carpet-bombed by the “vaccines”. The enemy is inside the wire. This is no time for our leaders to be wishy-washy about what could possibly kill millions before all the damage has run its course. It needs to stop now. Telling people that taking a deadly substance inside their bodies is okay is like telling people it’s okay to commit suicide. No, that’s wrong on so many levels I’m surprised anybody would think it’s right.
I think I shall find my news elsewhere.
Still feels like we chewing on this but not allowed to swallow.
I adamantly stopped taking flu vaccines about 10 years ago and my attitude thereafter was much like this “pro choice” stance I hear from deSantis, Trump and many other politicians.
However much more is now at stake than choosing a questionable vaccine. Covid vaccinations are inextricably linked to global fascism, depopulation, digital IDs and the Great Reset. I still cannot understand what’s the behind the silence of the US political class on vaccine dangers. It is like a Third Rail that no one will mention.
After all, the Moderna vaccine was ready for trials in Feb of 2020.
As this fear campaign blanketed the free world in 2020 I, for one, was questioning and criticizing the medical and scientific community for being silent as global government launched this well planned and unprecedented assault on humanity with maltreatment, manipulated diagnostics, profiteering, willful blindness, and all manner of “doing harm”
Now, 2 years later, there is a global army of medical and scientific champions exposing these horrific vaccines. But the US political class remains silent and most claim (or imply) they are vaccinated. Certainly there are some US politicians fighting against vaccine mandates, but where are the political warriors against the crippling vaccines themselves now that they have the medical and scientific information they need?
Only 3 senators still refuse the vaccine. Of those, only one for the essential reason.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/04/13/here-are-the-3-gop-senators-who-still-refuse-to-get-a-covid-vaccine/?sh=1dfc2e8718fe
It is to me, like they are all under some very ominous “nondisclosure”. Is there a third rail even Trump cannot touch?
You pretty much answered your own question. They are beholden to the globalists, with their ties to digital id’s and the Great Reset. One thing I’ve wondered about. It seems that China has a traditional vaccine. It seems fairly effective and much less harmful. Why didn’t President Trump as president insist that our pharma work on that for us, so that we would at have it as an option? Why can China have it, but we can’t? Many people would have less hesitation with a traditional vaccine.
I’d like to see that happen – but not manufactured in or with anything whatsoever to do with the CCP!
“Is there a third rail even Trump cannot touch?”
I remember some months back reading a theory that, in order to prevent the Black Hats from unleashing some sort of merciless violence upon innocent American citizens (possible dirty nuke?) he had made a deal
with the Devil to promote the vaccines. Remember at some point early on he said he had had to make the most difficult decision of his life? Could that have been related to this? If this theory is true, it might explain
why he’s being pro a vax that is maiming and killing people while not even protecting them from the ‘virus’. Perhaps he thought at the time that they just wanted him to commit to promoting the vax for financial reasons,
and he had no idea what kind of damage the vax would ultimately bring to the people. And now that he does know, his hands are tied because of this agreement and some potential major harm he is preventing by playing
ball with the Dark Hats. All conjecture, of course, but it seems like there must be some reason we all don’t know that is underlying this insupportable behavior on the part of the person we all believe to be not our savior,
but our champion.
This does seem to touch the the root of it. That would fit an accepted level of casualties in a war against humanity, not among nations. In such a war there will be no one man coming to save us.
Intriguing possibility!
Great article Sundance…. it lit a couple of bulbs in my head…very well thought out..
Now my Question is this… How do you think this would be now had the president won? Would the vaccine have been shelved by the media and the leftists? What do you thin Faucci position would change to? Would love to have your take on this…it would be most interesting for you to take that path…
I betcha 79.9999 of the 80 million Trump followers are able to focus on the real danger we’re facing with the criminally insane hierarchy in DC and won’t be sidetracked by yet another witch hunt.
Amen Mike, we need to be smart. Blowing the coof way out of proportion ‘won’ the White House for the leftist scum. Never would’ve happened without mail-in ballots. Dems want to cement fear of illness into the American psyche and keep stealing our vote away while they destroy the country. President Trump wants to remove the fear AND the fraud.
Mike, absolutely.
DJT did exactly as SD states in this article and it was the right way to go. IMHO, the ‘establishment’, maybe including CO, is positioning to put adverse vax reactions on Trump as it is about to get very bad politically.
I see that now , all the research and opinion is well and good but it all comes down to personal choice and that’s where president Trump rings clear as a bell , I admit I was bogged down and couldn’t see past the weeds but now it’s clear to me , the bottom line is personal choice,
The POTUS that threw personal choice out the window with the national shutdown holds little credibility claiming he supports it now.
It was my personal choice (and millions of others) to continue to have their freedoms to earn a living, attend school, sit at the side of a dying mother, child, attend houses of worship, socialize with friends and family, go to a doctor’s office, bury their dead, go to dinner, fly on a plane and just excercise our God given, Constitutionally granted freedoms.
Do you think it is possible DJT felt compelled to lockdown, honestly believing (as I did) that it was a temporary measure?
I’m sure he did feel that way. How we feel or what we believe doesn’t give us the right to violate the rights of others.
Keep in mind that President Trump authorized project Warp Speed when the data suggested that the lethality rate of Covidvirus infection was nearly 50% and the number of new infections was doubling every week. This means that the number of cases would multiply by a factor of 1,000 every three months. Theoretically; a third to a half of the world population was going to die within a year.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#case-outcome
It appeared to be a plague of Biblical proportions. Under such dire circumstances, rushing the development of vaccines that might be of somewhat marginal effectiveness and might have serious side effects was a reasonable precaution.
Two years later the apparent lethality rate has declined to about 1% to 2% on demographics and the growth rate has flattened to nearly stasis. We now are confident that the vast majority of the fatalities are elderly people whose life expectancies are less than a decade. At this point the potential benefits of the vaccines are questionable given the potential side effects.
Unfortunately; the Democrats and their philosophical fellow travelers in other countries have become far to eager to exploit the epidemic as a pretext to impose totalitarian control.
i suggest that ms. owens is too young to understand the intricacies of personal choice,
and not old enough to do research anywhere but the internet.
Excellent Zoom.
Good Lord, exactly what has Candace Owens done to warrant the love so many people have for her? If she were white, she would just be a loudmouth on some local radio or public access tv network.
There is more to being MAGA than ranting, raving, going off about election-stealing, vaccines, what have you. Election integrity and have the right to determine your own healthcare are important but damn we need spokesmen who actually are intelligent, know the issues and have more to say than f— fauci, lets go brandon, or clinton emails. It is just said to see what passes for leadership in our own ranks these days.
What a blessing Sundance is! Glad he is here. Wish there were more like him.
“…exactly what has Candace Owens done to warrant the love so many people have for her? ”
Apparently enough to get the interview with President Trump.
I’m not going to be throwing Candace entirely out with the bathwater either, not right away.
She has her place in helping to awaken young Dims – she has been doing that successfully for a while. I frankly don’t expect anything else out of her. If the numbers of America First keep improving just a little through her efforts, I’ll take that.
OTOH, if the numbers end up suffering because of this foolish comment, well – I can only hope that she is not actually that influential.
(Hope to take some temperature on this later over at CFP where the commenters are younger and frankly, generally a bit more simplistic thinkers too – not to say there aren’t some brilliant ones there – and brilliant young ones as well…)
Maybe it will all just sort of wash out… today’s tempest in a teapot…
Very well said. I don’t watch or listen to her or any talking heads.
Kind of like all of the guns in Germany were registered with the government, before the Nazis gained power.
Very much to the point Sundance, and this article was absolutely required. The comments were going ‘haywire’ criticizing VSGPDJT indeed. Imagin it’s March of 2020; as POTUS, he had no choice to ensure that BOTH vaccines and therapies need to be accelerated and delivered to the US citizens with a pace never been done before. All regulatory hurdles were cleared AND POTUS said that he’d buy ~ 200 million doses from each of the 5 big contenders for the vaccines. This last action of his was unique and unleashed the pharma companies’ creativity and not worrying about returns on their R&D as the PO was cut for scaled manufacturing already by POTUS action. 3 pharma companies did develop one, Merck didn’t/failed to do so, and AZ didn’t submit data in the US. POTUS pushed monoclonal anti bodies as therapy which thankfully wasn’t torpedoed like HCQ then and IVM now.
Blaming USGPDJT now makes no sense as you so eloquently describe in this article. Infact, he deserves our gratitude.
Thank you.
Thank You!
IMHO, this is being driven by the leftists who think they have found the perfect wedge issue with which to fracture Trump’s base. Unfortunately, it seems some in Trump’s base are falling for it. Neither Trump nor DeSantis have tried to force the jab on anyone. I will never get jabbed, so the opinions of anyone not trying to force me the jab on me are irrelevant. What I do find absurd is trying to blame Trump for the coercive actions of others, almost all of whom are Democrats.
Like to see more about the correlation between Cruz supporters and Desantis supporters.
Interesting subject.
Yep. That came out of left field. Cruz makes my skin crawl. Exactly what is the equivalency here?
Just a guess, but think the equivalency is basically ‘anyone but Trump’.
I call B.S. on that. No disrespect.
Two thirds of the adults in this country have taking the jab(s). Most of them will vote.
President Trump is not an idiot.
And with that, I am done with her.
Her downfall in a turn of the tongue! Same here!
” Unfortunately, she attempts to reconcile President Trump’s position by casting aspersions toward him ”
True that. She all but said, “Bless his heart”.
I say, “Bless her heart”.
Nice piece and good advice to focus on those responsible but, everyone feels powerless and wants a champion to do the work for them. That is probably the angst of Candace Owens and caused her to try to make up excuses for what she perceives as a lack of discernment on Trump’s part but, as you point out, he can hardly do more at this point. He intends to run again for president and must remain presidential. In this regard, he appears to have learned a bit. The hours tick away and even the midterms seem far away right now.
“There are many people using hindsight to criticize President Trump saying: with revelations over the past two years the entire U.S. medical establishment no longer holds credibility. However, at the time those original pandemic mitigation decisions were made, and President Trump activated a Cornavirus Taskforce led by Vice-President Mike Pence, how many American people really understood the political nonsense happening deep inside the CDC, FDA and NIH?”
I have criticized the man as standing stubborn in pride. Maybe that is harsh, maybe not.
It is true president Trump lead with stability throughout his presidency. For me, however, hindsight plays huge and president Trump needs some hindsight today to guide his position.
After all, we know much now that far to many are yet unaware about these vaccines, and today to tell people the vaccines are available yet should not be mandatory, for me, is far more political a position than beneficial. I’m in the camp these days desiring a leader to recognize all things covid need to be shut down politically.
I’ve experienced and witnessed much this past year and to really care at this point about politically nuanced positions is loathsome to me.
Thank you Sundance for all you do.
Trump approves of faulty vaccines — enough said.
So does Dr. Malone, inventor of the Mrna technology – enough said.
No he doesn’t, he changed his mind, something that mature people do when warranted. He had a bad reaction to Moderna and has seen what has happened to other people. He recently moved from saying only older people should get it to, they’re not safe for anybody, compared to Omicron.
Except Delta is still the dominant strain where millions live.
That’s changing very quickly in some areas.
Some information here implies it’s changing most quickly in blue areas (I can certainly attest to it in blueMA – the Moronic presumably overtook delta on the 17th of December) but not as fast in rural areas – and that makes sense.
The fact that it’s spreading most quickly amongst blue jabbed people is one to watch… That could cause a huge sea change in many opinions by early 2022 spring, IMHO.
Dr. Malone as of a few days ago publicly stated he no longer supports the vaccine for anyone! – enough said!
That is inaccurate. Malone disapproves of the vaccines for the majority of the population and in his most recent remarks has said he is close to approaching the point of not recommending them for anyone.
In his latest substack post, Malone discusses the importance of the willingness to change positions in the face of emerging data over remaining stuck in the past.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/on-science-and-controversy
Vaccines have risk, but have also saved lives, and we could still well be in a selectively shut down economy without them. Trump advocated for the RIGHT TO TRY with ALL medications available based on each individuals needs and desires, enough said.
Yes, Ma’am! PT45 aimed all guns at protecting American lives, period 🙂
Something’s gone awry with this post. It’s YUGE – I have to scroll to the right on my laptop to see the whole thing. Help, please!
There is a post from 9:19 in a different font where the entire line is the same as the YUGE screen width.
I believe screen autosizing is failing to correctly word-wrap this post.
That happens on my laptop occasionally on this site. I usually go to another thread and it “rights” itself.