Kyle Rittenhouse shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber as he was being attacked by a raging mob. Rittenhouse also fired on Gaige Grosskreutz as the attacker held a handgun toward him. Prosecutors attempted to claim that Rittenhouse was a vigilante looking for a fight; however, the defense, and all video of the events, show all shootings were justifiable self defense.
The jury deliberations began earlier today with the defendant using a random lottery drawing of six names to exclude from the full juror pool. The remaining jurors began deliberations immediately following the lottery cull.
Outside the courthouse a mob of pre-staged Black Lives Matter (BLM) and FBI supported ANTIFA agitators are shouting “no justice, no peace” – “if Kenosha don’t get it, burn it down,” and threatening to destroy the city if the jury does not adhere to their demands and convict Kyle Rittenhouse of murder.
While the FBI is supporting the activity of Antifa, according to local media, 500 national guard members are on standby to protect the city from them and the Black Lives Matter mobs. The Rittenhouse trial sets the stage for an interesting conflict between the FBI jackboots and the Wisconsin National Guard.
It is interesting how the city of Kenosha did not form a perimeter around the courthouse keeping the mob away from the steps. There is a park across the street which was previously used for protests as the police guarded the building. However, today, for some seemingly curious reason, the local authorities are allowing the protesting mob and their bullhorns to conduct their agitation activity on the steps to the courthouse.
Consider this an open discussion thread for issues and events taking place.
How bizarre that BLM is covering this trial, rather than the Arbery trial which actually encompasses a black vs white situation. Of course, what this actually tells you is that BLM and Antifa are little more than paid operatives and followers. The Rittenhouse trial has nothing to do with racial issues, and EVERYTHING to do with self defense and the Second Amendment. Why would BLM and Antifa care about these issues? They don’t, of course. They are just lackies for political operatives who wish to disarm the US. Period
Thay’re lackies for the Left that want to destroy Western societies. You know, the only ones on the planet who *used* to have a less corrupted, more citizen rights based countries.
Exactly! And Tifa and BLM have no genuine cause but they are fighting for. They are sponsored thugs flown all around the country to do planned riots. They are not organic uprisings in any way. They are insurrectionists against we the people on behalf of the communist left.
Surely they don’t “cross state lines?!?” Oh the horror.
Wonder how many of them had their vaxx? Another select group of people that do not get picked on over the shot.
They won’t disarm us. Just bought 250 rounds of 9mm at the boat store.
I agree but would add to your list that they want to destroy the ideal of masculinity. The image of a young American man with a rifle taking (or trying to take) control of a chaotic situation is a threat to tyrants.
I thought that Kyle conducted himself with great presence of mind, focus, and ability to function effectively in the midst of what was essentially, an ever-changing, dangerous,, and chaotic battlefield…Despite his youth.
They don’t want a precedent set that you can defend yourself against them.
You are right on!
They believe the Arbury trial is already “in the bag.”
Rittenhouse is a genuine threat to them, ie. The self defense laws.
They know that if Rittenhouse walks they won’t be able to riot safely, with impunity, but will be at risk of others defending themselves with deadly force.
Jesse Jackson is there, tho.
“Tensions flare in Arbery death trial as Jesse Jackson visits”
“BRUNSWICK, Ga. (AP) — A judge denied mistrial requests Monday at the trial of three white men charged with murdering Ahmaud Arbery after defense attorneys claimed jurors were tainted by weeping from the gallery where the slain Black man’s parents sat with the Rev. Jesse Jackson.“
https://apnews.com/article/ahmaud-arbery-brunswick-georgia-shootings-43de0d88d8350583663d3a14c22619cf
I have not been following the Arbery trial as I know the outcome already. The whites were condemned as soon as the story of the shooting hit the news.
But what I have read is that the defense lawyer asked the judge to not allow any more black ‘pastors’ to sit in with the family b/c it was intimidating the jury. Al Not-so-Sharpton was there and the lawyer asked that no more be allowed. The lawyer then apologized for the offensive and insensitive request.
And why is it that any time a black is killed by a white that ‘justice’ must be the white loses his life/liberty no matter the events surrounding the death?
Lynch mob mentality.
Let’s hope the good people of Kenosha remember something about the good citizens of Racine County, neighbors to the north.
The story of Joshua Glover is famous, not only for the roughness of his capture, but for the reaction of southeastern Wisconsin’s citizens to his jailing, the subsequent jailbreak and the aftermath that brought national attention to our state…
1854. Seven years before the onset of Civil War hostilities…
Escaping from his master in Missouri in 1852, Joshua Glover had become a member of the Racine County community, working at the Sinclair Rice and Saw Mill in town. Two years after settling in Racine, he was captured by several men including his master Benammi Garland, and jailed in Milwaukee.
A crowd of several thousand Racine County citizens overwhelmed the security of the Milwaukee county jail and set him free…
While the abolitionist movement was strong throughout northern states, Wisconsin remained the only state to declare the Fugitive Slave Act unconstitutional.
Much more here:
https://racineheritagemuseum.omeka.net/exhibits/show/underground-railroad/joshua-glover
I believe the vast majority of Wisconsinites and residents of Kenosha county know what true justice looks like.
“A crowd of several thousand Racine County citizens overwhelmed the security of the Milwaukee county jail and set him free…”
we may yet have another opportunity to show whether we consent to be governed by this madness or whether we will see justice done.
Great analogy…
Also, Wisconsin citizens hunt and own guns. So some of these jurors at least should not buy in to the
“guns are bad” rhetoric.
Lyin’ Ryan was a big Wisconsin hunter. *Spit*
Garland? Any relation to the criminal AG?
Why haven’t they already decided he is innocent? It should have been over in 15 minutes. 1854 was a long time ago from the insanity of today.
Given the circus if they have come to their verdicts perhaps they’d wait until morning to announce so as not to set off the evening lunacy. This is just straight up harassment of the jury. I really hope this doesn’t go badly for him. Robert Barnes has commented on his worry about the jury selection. He consulted on his idea of how to approach and they took a different path and picked their jurors in a day in a city where 30% polled said he was guilty.
Yeah, no way the “activists” can make that 9.00am deadline.
Darkness is their friend.
Plus, it gives ample time to move in the National Guard.
I read on another site that there were two holdouts afraid of retaliation. I predict a hung jury.
The lady sitting w/Mrs. Rittenhouse is supposed to be some jury specialist, she has been tied to a few famous cases. No link, but have read it and heard it on the radio today. Not that it means anything, jurors are fickle. I am concerned that there are so many women in the jury.
Hopefully they are moms who put their children in the same scenario as Kyle.
RSBN outside Kenosha Courthouse
Anyone know what the red, black & green flag is about?
maybe this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-African_flag
In my early years growing up and when I was in the service [mid-60s’ – early 70s’] the “Black Liberation or Afro-American flag” grew in popularity even though this had been around for decades.
Black Supremacists..
When you see the colors red, black and green you can bet the person displaying them is pro-Africa or African tribal.
Or simply put a Black Supremacist as Conspiracy noted above.
There are quite a few fat white women simping for blm. Just sayin
RSBN soooo rocks!
Heartening to see that this crowd is not very big.
They haven’t sent them in yet..but then perhaps the idea of 500 national guard might keep them at bay..
Why the hell is this intimidation being allowed??
Same reason the riots were allowed.
Don’t you remember? Obama and Company changed the definition of “free speech” to include rioting, looting, arson and jury intimidation.
Only if done by the left. Their violence is free speech and our free speech is violence.
Unless it’s aimed at the progressives in DC, then you go to political jail with no rights.
Jury intimidation.
The National Guard activation was also done to intimidate the jury.
BLM Protesters on the court house steps with bullhorns while the jury deliberates inside?
Doesn’t sound anything like sponsored jury intimidation does it?
to paraphrase a caller who called earlier this afternoon to a local radio show with this bit of humor: ‘Got my peaceful bear spray, got my peaceful molotov cocktails, got my peaceful baton, I’m ready for the peaceful protest!’
Someone else-actually a thousand someone else’s-should go out and blast some Aaron Lewis, followed up by the Star Spangled Banner.
We all need to pray for these jurors, that God gives them the courage, strength and fortitude to do the right thing.
??Amen??
and if they don’t, I hope you’ll pray for the citizens to interject and ENSURE the right thing is done.
I agree. My suspicion is that there are one or more in the room steadfast that he must be found guilty of something. Of course, when we look at the video evidence we all realize that “beyond a reasonable doubt” for guilt is impossible to anyone with a reasonable mind.
“Reasonable mind” is the operative phrase. If there is one single Liberal in that jury he won’t be acquitted.
I am nervous because I remember the OJ jurors.
Me too. I have become quite attached to Kyle and his plight. The whole thing is sickening, not to mention this will affect the 2A.
And just like that the jury calls it a night, unable to reach consensus. Clearly there is at least one unreasonable mind in the room.
Posobiec reporting on 2 jurors being worried.
If they are worried, there are 6 alternates who could step in. If they don’t have the guts to decide without outside influence, then they should say that to the judge.
Could those Jurors be replaced with alternates at this point? Those two hold outs are basically saying they can’t judge this fairly due to fear.
Based on other comments here, it looks doubtful. I can only see something change if they (the holdouts) went to the judge.
It’s disgraceful what they are doing. If they were scared of doing what they were selected to do, then they should have said so long before getting to deliberate the fate of the accused.
Posobiec now explicitly stating the juror holdouts are worried about “doxxing from anarchist groups”. Clear case of jury intimidation. Maybe someone with a legal background can opine as to what happens next?
If the jury isn’t allowed to speaking to anyone about the trial, how can Posobiec possibly know any of this?
Good question. I am now wondering if that is a spoof twitter account and LI (which posted it) got fooled.
It’s really Jack. Checked.
But Jack could be wrong.
Just checked, it’s legit. States he is getting info from a US Marshall
Jacek Posobiec. C’mon man!
Just looked and it is his twitter
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/
If they are allowed to keep their phones, they might be in contact with relatives, even though they’re not supposed to talk to anyone. If someone has to go to the restroom, and takes the phone along…but I hope the phones were turned in to the bailiff.
The tweet says ‘per a US Marshal in Kenosha.’
Are there bailiffs in the jury deliberation rooms — to ensure no shenanigans? I haven’t a clue if bailiffs are in the deliberation room or just outside.
Believe that the bailiffs are outside of the jury deliberation room. Otherwise there would be no anonymity for the juries.
Sure, that makes sense.
Because it is just speculating but knowing how most of them have turned out..it makes sense.
Per US Marshall
Until they tell the judge that they are hopelessly deadlocked, they will continue to deliberate. If they are deadlocked, the judge may ask them to try a little longer. If they report they are still hopelessly deadlocked, then it would likely be a mistrial.
The judge cannot replace the two holdouts just for holding out. The judge has to respect each juror’s opinion. The alternates are used when a juror is ill, has a personal emergency, including a death in the family, etc.
The Judge could replace the hold outs for refusing to deliberate. Replace with alternates and order the to start deliberations fresh.
..a mistrial to be retried?
There were 6 alternates I thought. Can the worriers be replaced?
That is what someone posted on the earlier page of this thread but now I am not sure if the judge can replace them or not.
Thx. Didn’t see that.
The worriers might be replaced by two people who would vote the same way as the worriers.
Deliberation shouldn’t include if they’re going to be doxxed.
In a perfect and just world, correct. But that is not the world we live in today here in the US. The rule of law is apparently dead.
In a perfect world the judge would have ended this farce.
Correct.
If they were that worried, they should have asked to be excused during voir dire. But maybe the chance to serve on a jury in a famous trial was too tempting (and they assume Kyle was guilty of something, given the media reports.)
If the jury is concerned about doxxing, they are not voting to convict.
is there any help left for us?
US. we are the help.
2 Chronicles 7:14: If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
The jury could decide to deadlock.
How about some snow and sleet and freezing weather up there right now. Maybe an ice storm but keep the power on in the courthouse. .
I’ve been praying for a blizzard.
Hail . . .
This is awful! They should sequester the jury and get rid of BLM. Bet we have a mistrial, so wrong!
Sweep the courthouse steps clean!
Judge is going to ask jurors if they want to deliberate into evening.
This could be 1) do you want to finish verdicts today or start again tomorrow? or 2) are you hopelessly deadlocked?
Judge won’t issue a charge about deadlock unless they’ve been there quite a bit longer than a day. If they say they are deadlocked, he sends them back for more deliberations with a specific charge. Only after that will he consider the jury to be deadlocked.
He still hasn’t ruled on the motion to dismiss with prejudice for the bad faith gun charge, two prejudicial comments on the defendant exercising his right to remain silent. That’s still in his back pocket as far as I know.
Worried that he’s about to be given a bad case of “Covid” so he can’t do that, too.
Jurors asked judge for a picture of the halo etched into Kyle’s pillowcase when he sleeps at night.
Then they wanted to know if Kyle could autograph one for each.
This type of sh*t really sucks.
It is time to burn down the BLM and Antifa. Time to end their rein of terror that is protected by the DOJ/ FBI.
You have to wonder if the piece of human trash that kicked Kyle in the head, who Kyle shot at and missed and who has not been identified as anything but “drop kick” guy, wasn’t an FBI agent or paid informer. Would not be a surprise.
If you really want to go down the rabbit hole, read this piece:
https://voxday.net/2021/11/16/was-kenosha-a-failed-hit/
I do wonder what the drone was doing there.
Why the drone right where Rosenbaum confronted Kyle?
Exactly.
who was the drone pilot?
That scenario would certainly not be surprising or out of character for the government.
Sadly for the future of this country, you are correct.
Will, That article UNFORTUNATELY makes more sense than anything else.
Have to give thanks to Professor Sundance and all the Treepers for their insights into a multitude of subjects.
Maurice James Freeland
They know who he is, he wanted to testify to be cleared of crimes, prosecution didn’t want him. I don’t know where I saw it, just a few hours ago. Typical life long criminal thug.
the prosecution knew full well who that was. he is local and black and frequent flier of the court. He did not testify because they could not guaranty the judge would dismiss whatever charges he has against him. via robert barnes.
JumpKickMan has been identified. Seems he made contact with the DA’s office and agreed to testify if he could get immunity for his ‘other’ crimes. I think I read the name as Maurice Gohard Freeland and he has a rap sheet from here to Kenosha, a very long way.
in order to do that, the DOJ and FBI will have to go first.
DHS is using the “white supremacist” label to dehumanize conservatives, to make people hate & kill us.
#happeningnow Mark and Patricia McCloskey, best known for pulling guns on a BLM protest, arrived outside of Kenosha Courthouse and were confronted by BLM activists.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-mccloskeys-go-to-kenosha/
God Love them. Honestly, what fabulous people.
The Kenosha County sheriff should be putting up a security perimeter around the courthouse. It’s after 5 pm in Kenosha, so most of the courthouse employees have probably gone home, but the safety of those in the courthouse can’t be threatened by BLM on the courthouse steps. Hope the place has a back door or two.
Kyle Rittenhouse wants to defend the court house while verdict is being read , hat Tip Babylon bee
Retired Magistrate here: The Judge who heard the case can request the Sheriff provide security for the jurors and the Courthouse. Well, at least that is the way it was in the Common Pleas Court I worked at. If I had a suspicion that there would be trouble after I ruled on a case I would call the Sheriff’s office and ask for security. Same thing for a jury trial where members of the defendant’s family were outside waiting for the jurors; members of the Sheriff’s Department would escort the jurors to their cars after the jury gave their verdict and were discharged.
The judge already knows that someone was trying to photograph jurors, so he should have security in place by now for the jurors. We may just now know about it. But there should be security for the courthouse area and occupants.
If you saw pictures of the Hennepin County courthouse during the Chauvin trial, there was fencing, guards, and limited access to the courthouse. IIRC, protestors had to stay away from entrances.
The Chauvin jurors would be told to come to meeting spots, and were picked up and dropped off from there, so no one could see the sheriff going around picking jurors up at their homes. IIRC, they did not use official sheriff vans, but plain ones. The judge in this case may be doing something similar.
Twice, family members tried to intimidate jurors on a murder case I was selected for. The first time, the judge admonished the family in court. The second time, the judge ordered the sheriff deputies to guard the doors & not allow anyone in our out until the jurors were safely away from the court house. Two weeks of trial & taking the long way home every night.
Did the intimidation affect you or any of the other jurors in your deliberations? And if you found the defendant guilty, were you given any protection from the sheriff’s office for any period of time?
The first person approached outside the courtroom told the judge that she is a mom, that is what moms do, they try to protect their kids. So no, she was not affected by the threats from the mom & brother of the defendant. The second threat came as we were walking in a straight line following a sheriff deputy from the courthouse down the street to lunch. The three jurors at the end of the line were surrounded by six of the defendants family and friends. They were shaken, but after talking to the judge they were fine.
No we received nothing but our jury pay after the trial. The defense attorney had our names read out loud in court, had us stand and face the defendant, & pronounce him guilty of first degree murder.
We all agreed that in the end, a very bad person was locked away for life.
If it is a federal courthouse the US Marshalls are in charge of the security.
Most Federal Courthouse’s were retrofitted after the OKC bombing. They have escape routes, deep underground parking etc. They are safe from everyone excepting from the bureau of liars.
Perhaps in the America of years gone by. Tis a nice thought still. Thanks for sharing.
wish
I can only imagine what that poor kid is going through now. I don’t like that the jury has been out for so long. The problem with juries is that normal, sensible people find ways to get excused, and thus we get crazy verdicts. Serving on juries is a way we can fight back against tyranny. If we refuse to convict in political show trials, they’ll quit bringing such trials (although they’ll likely try some other avenue). Poor Kyle.
BV….The amount of time the jury is out IS worrisome!
I honestly think the jury was not going to get a verdict today even if all voted to acquit first thing this morning because a quick acquittal would “signal” to the community that they didn’t take it serious and had an agenda which would spark for backlash and rioting. I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t get a verdict until Thursday to give the appearance they struggled with the decision before ultimately acquitting him. Sad that our justice system has devolved to this.
It’s hard for me to understand since they have video evidence and because the judge explained “self defense” so very clearly at one point.
It was made clear that “YOu don’t have to agree that the threat posed was that which would have resulted in bodily harm. YOu as the juror only have to determine that the defendant at the time he took action FELT THAT WAY.”
And it’ll take even longer than that if Antifa/BLM shut down the highways…….. which we know they *always* do.
Gov. Evers wants Kenosha to burn……. again.
Isn’t Evers is up for re-election in 2022? Does he think voter fraud in Milwaukee and Dane (Madison) Counties will re-elect him?
(Answer, yes, probably.)
I think you meant “re-install” him… He wasn’t legitimately elected to begin with.
why dont the citizens prevent that from happening?
It may be against the law to run over people blocking the highway in WI.
Don’t know.
Please pray for a full acquittal!
If the mob was across the street, the jurors wouldn’t be able to hear their threats
judge about to speak
Looking at that poor kid’s face – around 9:53:00…he is trying so hard to hold it together but he is JUST a kid. My Mama Tiger heart is breaking for him and for his family!
Jury finished for day; will be back at 9 am tomorrow.
Kyle Rittenhouse | Murder or Self-Defense? (rumble.com)
Does Kyle have a place / website where we can support him financially?
https://www.freekyleusa.org/
This is the official site!
Robert Barnes observed that Hancock, seemingly out of self interest, is controlling Mrs Rittenhouse and Kyle, including funds coming in for them. Therefore, be cautious in your giving assuring that it will get to the intended recipients.
The Rittenhouse jury is breaking for the night
The Rittenhouse jury is done deliberating for the day.
They will resume tomorrow at 10 a.m. ET.
Jurors began deliberating at 10:15 a.m. ET on Tuesday.
Source>>> Live updates: Kyle Rittenhouse trial and verdict watch (cnn.com)
Replace the 2 scared jurors, fully acquit with the judge piling on, and then declare a week of celebration, with Kyle designated as Hero of Kenosha,
Statue to be commissioned.
Drive the loons and activists out, initially with water cannons and rubber bullets, and if that doesn’t work……break heads.
The judge can only replace jurors if the juror is unable to serve for some reason like illness, a family emergency, death in the family or something serious like that. He cannot replace a juror because of the vote.
If he randomly chose replacements from the alternates, those jurors might vote the same way.
if one of the holdouts wanted out, a visit to the emergency room with “chest pains” might do it.
He can replace the juror if that juror asks to speak to the judge to say, “I cannot give the defendant his right to a fair trial by rendering a verdict based only on the evidence as I thought I could because I feel intimidated.”
Juror is then dismissed and an alternate takes his/her seat.
Very true. If the juror says he can’t continue, the judge will excuse the juror.
If they’re scared, but want to continue (ok, why – do they think they’ll change ten minds?), then they stay.
One juror in the first week got the boot for saying something snarky, another left because of illness.
Well with the ERs filled with patients who received the jab. The complications or unintended consequences from the jab. Juror might die there or get the WuFlu there. Become an asymptomatic super spreader. Just Saying.
Wear all black, black gloves, black skull cap and full knitted face mask with only eyes, nose and mouth
slits. No identifying marks, etc. visible. Play the antifa game so they can’t use facial recognition on you.
So two jurors are scared? Scared…why? Afraid of being chased down and beaten by the BLM ANTIFA mob? The mob would only do that if these two were considering NG. If it’s only these two, the country is gonzo. We’re on our own.
The mayor of Kenosha is related to lead detective & prosecutor. The fblie kneels to blm & runs antifa.
Allowing a mob of either or both on the steps of the courthouse is nothing short of jury intimidation & deprivation of rights under the color of law.
Evers will not send in the NG until after the mobs had plenty of time to let the jury feel their oppressive presence.
Does anyone know who pays BLM and Antifa? They advertise for crisis actors ahead of their “protests” and no one ever prosecutes them for their crimes. They don’t protest – they riot, kill, steal and burn. They are domestic terrorists.
He who will not be named, through various proxies.
Soros, but I’m sure there are others. They seem to have almost unlimited funds.
Because they are the recipients of trillions of our tax dollars, every year , siphoned off to them by our congress.
There are some “leaders” who seem very coordinated. The rest are low life, drug addled, pieces of human excrement.
Here’s a Free Beacon article with some information:
https://freebeacon.com/politics/dark-money-behemoth-that-hosts-blm-foundation-received-16-million-in-government-grants/
Free Beacon traces some money back to George Soros.
They were doing this stuff under George Bush, back then it was called Social Justice Warriors instead of BLM. I used to read gov’t grants, the site was full of grants for Social Justice. At the time I didn’t know or understand, just frustrated I couldn’t find the grant I needed.
Virtue signaling corporations gave them millions.
Woke corporparations, Hollywood scum, Kellogs and Ford foundations, and Soros.
The FBI must have discretionary funds that it uses to pay informants??? I’d start looking there.
Videos of protestors outside of Kenosha courthouse. Also a good interview of the McCloskey’s outside the courthouse in support of kyle and 2nd Amendment rights.
https://welovetrump.com/2021/11/16/tensions-high-outside-of-kenosha-courthouse-national-guard-on-standby/
That’s great! But, guess what! We pay the salaries of a S-Load of Republican Pols. How many of them have joined the McCloskey’s on those steps. Crickets!
Must be a low IQ jury to have not figured out the obvious by now that he is not guilty of all charges.
But I’ll make sure the National Guard stays as far away from Kenosha as possible.
Nice words fr/ Gov. Evers:
Binger told Rittenhouse that “you lose the right to self-defense if you bring a gun.” If Kyle is convicted, Binger’s statement will establish precedent across the country in all future self-defense cases.
Every minimally competent defense attorney will request a specific instruction that contradicts this.
The instruction would be based on DC v. Heller (2008), in which the Supreme Court stated that self-defense is the reason for the right to own a gun.
Didn’t obama say that if you bring a knife, we’ll bring a gun
That’s the Chicago way.
You lose the right of self defense if you use your right of self defense. Got it!
“However, today, for some seemingly curious reason, the local authorities are allowing the protesting mob and their bullhorns to conduct their agitation activity on the steps to the courthouse.”
Nothing more than an official approval of jury intimidation.
There is no excuse for this with the already known video recording of jury members, threats to them and threats to the judge.
How many more KR’s will there be needed to protect Kenosha from the mob?
This from a comment on TGP:
“So a Pedophile, a Domestic Abuser and a Felon all walk into a bar…
And Kyle says: “Shots are on me” “
~’Cooper’ on TGP
It sounds like jurors are feeling scared and threatened.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/11/rittenhouse-verdict-watch/
So they are going to put a kid in prison for life for defending himself from a bunch of white criminals because they are afraid? This is BS at the highest level..no human integrity at all.
Welcome to our new America. Same name, different product. New and (not) improved. Hard times now and hard times ahead.
Mob rule getting into position.
https://gellerreport.com/2021/11/two-jurors-holding-decision-up-outright-citing-backlash-per-us-marshal-in-kenosha.html/
I cannot believe the judge is sending the jury home for the night. What is he thinking???? Totally biased and irresponsible.
Wow!
Aren’t they supposed to be sequestered and put up in a hotel, if necessary, until verdict is reached?
I would think so…especially under the circumstances
It’s up to the judge. He should have anticipated, given that someone was trying to photograph the jurors, to tell them to pack a bag for sequestration during deliberation. Once the crowds arrived outside, it might have been too late to arrange a secure 9and secret) hotel.
The jury wanted to break for the night and go home. The judge let them go after telling them, “Now you’re in deliberation and the rules are the same as they were before with the additional provision that you can’t talk with anybody about the case. Even if all 12 of you, by happenstance end up at the same place. Some bowling alley, or restaurant or something. You’re not allowed to talk about the case, even with all 12.”
But they can read stuff on the internet right?
There was nothing about that in the part of the judge’s statement I saw; but, it’s standard procedure for judges to include prohibiting jurors from reading or watching any news relating to the trial.
Of course, there’s no way to monitor what they do and little way to stop them.
Two jurors are holding up the verdict citing threats of backlash.
I may be wrong; but, I suspect the judge will declare a mistrial if Antifa and BLM act on their threats or if those two jurors continue to hold things up tomorrow based on their fear of threats.
Yes, if the two continue to hold out, it will be a mistrial. Then it’s re-try or drop the case.
By the way, Binger and Kraus are only assistant prosecutors. The district attorney will make that call. Once assumes any re-trial won’t have those two clowns in it.
Re “Yes, if the two continue to hold out, it will be a mistrial. Then it’s re-try or drop the case.”
There’s a still standing motion from the defense team that the judge dismiss the case with prejudice; meaning the case cannot be retried. I suspect that is what will happen.
The people in Kenosha and surrounding areas have been watching this intently. Perhaps Kyle has become the path forward. A seventeen year old, who broke no laws, who came to the town his Dad, Grandmother, uncle, aunt, cousins and best friend live to try to protect people and property and offer aid to people who needed it. His community, where he had held several jobs. He defended himself when threat was imminent, with discretion. Are there men in Kenosha? Or are they willing to hide behind a 17 year old and see how this turns out? Feminists, Rejoice! You have successfully emasculated our men, our protectors, our barriers before the storm. Here is what you reap. (My 8:00 rant!)
The jury has 11 women on it. I find that concerning.
I just called the Kenosha Sheriff’s Department to find out why the mob was allowed to stand outside and chant while the jury deliberates In the Kyle Rittehouse trial. Not right to intimidate the jury. The Supervisor let me talk for quite awhile and I can only hope he passes on my feedback to his superiors.
Thank you!
I left a little message for the Governor as well.
Jack Posobiec is reporting (source US Martial) there are two hold outs openly stating they are worried that if they acquit there will be retaliation.
I saw another report that the jurors used today looked like the more liberal 12 out of the 18 and included 7 woman and 5 men with one man a minority. I don’t know if it’s true.
US Marshall ?
What these holdout jurors don’t understand is the mob will not go away even if they intimidate them into deciding a certain way. If the holdouts allow that, they are allowing the mob to decide much more than a verdict.
God bless this brave man.
They are going to find Kyle guilty of one count of reckless endangerment. Period. They’re reasoning is going to be that if he went down there to protect the business of his friend, then he shouldn’t have ever left his position. The fact that he did these jurors will reason was provocative and launched the ensuing events. This is a nice out for them, as it clearly avoids saying that he didn’t have the right to defend himself, but settles the issue so that they can walk away and say they convicted of something. The reason antifa and BLM aren’t in Georgia at the Aubrey case is because that case appears to be a slam dunk. Had Aubrey had a gun, he would have been able to do and should have done the same thing Kyle Rittenhouse did
– Shoot those motherfuckers dead in a clear case of self-defense. Some as Rittenhouse, he was running for his life. Being in that construction property when he shouldn’t have been was sort of like Rittenhouse walking away from his position. They’re very similar cases. I just wish Aubrey would have had a gun so people could see that. If only the police and government would do their damn job, then guys like Kyle Rittenhouse house wouldn’t be in this situation, I’m a situation involving Aubrey would have led to an arrest a long time ago before the chief of police tried to protect the killers.
Found in the bin… 🙁
Re “…if he went down there to protect the business of his friend, then he shouldn’t have ever left his position.”
The prosecution has claimed all along that Kyle should never have been there to begin with; but, 1 or 2 jurors will be able to convince the rest that once there, he couldn’t leave?
I just don’t believe that’s going to happen…
Here’s some information on the filth that TARGETED Kyle that evening:
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/11/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender/
https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections.gov/PrintInmate.aspx?ID=172556
https://nypost.com/2021/11/15/sole-survivor-of-rittenhouse-shootings-has-criminal-past-report/
Nicholas Sandmann pens op-ed about Kyle Rittenshouse: You don’t have to face it alone.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/nicholas-sandmann-pens-op-ed-about-kyle-rittenhouse-you-dont-have-to-face-it-alone
Once again, Nicholas Sandmann has shown what a true patriot he is. Here is his full Op-Ed published in the Daily Mail…
Click>>> NICHOLAS SANDMANN: The media came for me like they came for Rittenhouse, but should he sue? | Daily Mail Online
Thanks for posting all of it!
You’re very welcome; and, thank you for taking the time to read it.
Read that this morning. Sandmann has true grit. I hope Rittenhouse sues all and sundry when this is over.
What a great article and a fine young man he still is after all he has been through. Both these young men faced tough situations and were able to make good decision at the time in spite of it. I hope they meet up and support each other.
Nick and Kyle would make a great team!
I hope they meet up and RUN FOR OFFICE.
Nice.