Joe Biden did it again today. A month after the first announcement, the White House occupant claimed again a Dept of Labor rule (via OSHA) is forthcoming, yet no such process appears to be taking place. This ploy now seems very purposeful, because without an actual policy or regulation visibly in place, state attorneys general cannot file a lawsuit or request an injunction.
As long as Biden keeps threatening a DOL worker vaccination rule sometime in the future, many employers will take action to require worker vaccination. This seems to be the actual strategy; bolstered by White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki caught off-guard last week when asked about it.
Psaki had no idea how to answer the question about any OSHA activity not taking place (link). Obviously Psaki didn’t expect the question, but it was also obvious that no background conversation had ever taken place amid the White House communication team.
Perhaps responding to an awakening on that issue, Joe Biden gave a speech today begging people to get vaccinated and again warning that a federal vaccine mandate for all workers was coming:
TRANSCRIPT – […] The Labor Department is going to shortly issue an emergency rule — which I asked for several weeks ago, and they’re going through the process — to require all employees [employers] with more than 100 people, whether they work for the federal government or not — this is within a — in the purview of the Labor Department — to ensure their workers are fully vaccinated or face testing at least once a week.
In total, this Labor Department vaccination requirement will cover 100 million Americans, about two thirds of all the people who work in America.
These requirements work.
[…] And as the Business Roundtable and others told me when I announced the first requirement, that encouraged businesses to feel they could come in and demand the same thing of their employees. (more)
Biden then went on to praise companies who are doing it on their own.
Others are starting to notice as this article in the Federalist notes:
[…] According to several sources, so far it appears no such mandate has been sent to the White House’s Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs yet for approval. The White House, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), and the Department of Labor haven’t released any official guidance for the alleged mandate. There is no executive order. There’s nothing but press statements.
Despite what you may have been falsely led to believe by the media fantasy projection machine, press statements have exactly zero legal authority. Read more
And when the ruse is up and the bluff is revealed, do you think all the people will be happy about being played for suckers? Especially when the winter wave hits and the case numbers wind up higher than last year’s?
Maybe they’ll blame it on “the flu” this year and .gov will start paying Hosp. for the # of “flu cases”?
I went to my neighborhood Wal-Mart the other day and was immediately confronted by a pharmacy assistant at the entrance trying to flog a flu shot on me. I was pleasant but left her with no doubt it wasn’t going to happen. When I left by the same door, she was gone. I do most of my shopping there. I haven’t seen her anytime since. I suspect others have told her the same thing.
Well according to the CDC.flu cases are down. Way down. How down? Usually, there are 150-180 infant flu deaths a year. This year?
ONE.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#S2
650,000 dead (so they say, and most believe that)….
I wonder what the red line is for citizens when you contemplate just how far this has already gone?
another million…two…5…30?
when will American citizens realize that there is no “cure” for covid. That the mRNA is a fraud ? That the entire premise has been to let a bioweapon carve a deep hole into the population, with effects that are going to have long permanent damage to society where it matters the most: loss of freedom, loss of property, loss of wages, loss of representation, censorship, jackboot police tactics, waste and abuse at the highest levels of the state?
I wonder what that red line number will be?
or does the people, just take it like good little boys and girls?
my sense is that no, they will go werewolf..
Have our enemies already defeated the USA?
It started 100 years ago and never stopped…what did you expect?
I posit it started in 1777….. We have met the enemy… and he is us.
And regitiger, let’s not forget: COVID is not as dangerous as they have portrayed it to be. That is the lost fact in this whole debacle: 99.9% recovery rate for most people, no different than flu.
And, also, who knows how many “real” Covid cases exist- the test used flawed the data and they still haven’t been able to isolate the virus structure (i forgot how they really describe this). UCLA , I believe, still has a lawsuit about this pending.
Note that 1/3 of the deaths (from/with/suspected/guessed/faked) are in the >85 age bracket.
Lose the monetary bait to not only classify, but vent at will and the outcome is far different.
While I’m sure this has occurred to them, they probably decided it’s in their best interests to complete the destruction of this country before accountability might come about. What’s more, they are probably aware the criminal justice systems and others which would normally prosecute these people is on their side — or at least the leadership is. And of course the “political violence” (That actually fits the definition of “hate crime” more than any other) is exclusive to the left. (INB4 what about neo-Nazis? They are on the left! There is nothing right-wing about nationalist socialists. There is no form of socialism that is on the right. Stop believing the lie… haven’t noticed yet they change the language in order to hide the truth?)
All that said, despite the likely truthful numbers from the CDC that COVID-19’s risk of death to the population is very low and does not justify what we are living through, no one is calling it out. It’s almost as if they know but want to use the lie for their own purposes.
Employers who are forcing their employers to choose between their jobs and an experimental drug without having backup in the form of a FEDERAL mandate are falling into a trap being set by the Chicago Mafia. Sadly, both employers and employees will eventually suffer as a result.
Sooner or later, fired unvaxxed employees will file class action suits. Employers will not be able to say they were legally required to mandate the shots. Therefore, many of the suits will be won on grounds of wrongful termination, costing the employers millions, and possibly billions for some major corporations. Many businesses will be forced to close down; thereby, creating even greater loss of jobs which, in turn, will hurt America’s economy even more.
While the unvaxxed who were fired and won their suits may be temporarily OK financially, the vaxxed who lost jobs when the employers lost suits and had to go out of business will not be able to sue and will likely suffer more and longer term. However, the end result will be a loss of jobs by many vaxxed and unvaxxed; thus causing even greater damage to America.
Destroying America’s wealth is the long term goal of everything being done.
EV (Evil Intelligence) is a lot more dangerous than AI could ever possibly be…
how do you know these Evil Intelligence people are not using AI?
Why do you think the internet and AI was invented?
Sorry, satanism and evil is embedded in the California New Age and the Left
https://vimeo.com/embed-redirect/165804628?embedded=true&source=video_title&owner=44966608
AI comes and goes in cycles. Always did in my 30+ years as an R&D engineer. Lots of promises, followed by lots of capital funding, followed by lackluster results.
Computer software is a series of instructions assembled by a human. Some of the algorithms are quite sophisticated, but they still can do no more than they were designed to do. Comparing AI software to the human mind, is like comparing a player piano to the New York Philharmonic.
That said, the great danger is not the technology, but the government that uses it with unchecked power.
True. See this every day where a 25 dollar (full load) illegal with 85 IQ out performs automated equipment.
Re “how do you know these Evil Intelligence people are not using AI?”
I have no doubt that EI is using AI. However, it’s the EI that controls the AI. Therefore, EI remains the greater E!
There are no AI’s currently in existence. None. We are decades away from an AI.
No worry.
It is all going as planned.
Why do you think all of those millions of illegals are being ushered into the country. They will replace many of those fired workers at a much lower pay. Green card visas will also be used. The commies know exactly what they are doing. Since we are returning to a service economy, you don’t need very many skilled, literate workers. You just need a warm baby producing breeder to keep the government dependent workforce supplied.
The illiterate workers will earn minimum wage and taxpayers will subsidize the employers by providing all the gov’t. freebies.
We won’t need a military force, the UN will take their place. If we have our one world government with China in charge, you don’t need a military. China will produce the world’s goods and we will be just another shit hole country run by wealthy dictators.
When the population owns nothing and lives from cradle to grave on what the dictators are willing to hand out, you don’t need citizens who produce much of anything. And you don’t need much revenue when you are not spending it on anything except personal body guards and fencing around your compound.
Re “It is all going as planned.”
That was my point; and, I agree with what you added to my line of thinking.
Your last line vividly describes Third World living.
This does seem to be the path we are on – “and we will be just another shit hole country run by wealthy dictators.”
Very well stated, and absolutely true. Although, this kind of ruse must have been on an AI print-out of 500 top, unknown ways to destroy America’s wealth. I just don’t see this kind of sublime deviousness being a part of the normal thought patterns of most human beings. In any event, I do fully believe that no important strategy of Biden’s Marxist Republic is ever undertaken without AI input. As I’ve said before, everything they do seems to just click, machine-like, into place.
(cont.)
And I wouldn’t exempt Afghanistan from that mechanical perfection. It was only a debacle from the human perspective and from the perspective of the interests of the United States, but not from the heartless, insensate, machine-like, perspective of anti-American Marxist strategists. Quite the contrary, they scored 10 out a possible 10 points on that traitorous mission.
Obama’s handlers (our “real” president) are very pleased with the Afganistan situation. We left in shame and left them a military’s worth of equipment and supplies. And our govt is sending them our money. All is good in the muslim brotherhood.
No worry on the equipment. Once it breaks they won’t be able to repair it.
I am sure their new buddies in China have reverse engineered any parts they need by now.
Agreed. It has been complicated trying to figure out where this is all going. What’s the globalist/fascist game plan.
It’s beginning to look like they are repeating the Nazi game plan.
It took YEARS to condition the German people to view the extermination of Jews to be acceptable, even justified.
The Nazis, via unrelenting propaganda– and Goebells masterful at it — convinced the people that the economic crisis, really all problems in Germany were caused by the Jews… so they deserved punishment and Germany would be strong again as soon as the Jews were gone.
Pretty much the same thing is being said about the unvaccinated and its been less than a year since these vaccines have been available.
I also must say that Trump is pissing me off. On Hanity, he said… no one had a problem with the vaccines when he was President, implying that the problem now is purely political b/c Biden is president. He answered that question re the vaccine mandates very poorly.
He also admitted that if you have had covid, you don’t need the vax… but he said he was vaccinated so why did he take the vax if he knows he doesn’t need it?
I heard President Trump and was disappointed in his answer as well. For whatever reason, he still is not really getting where people are at with this, and seems unable to just outright say that it is wrong to require people to either vaccinate or lose their jobs!
He needs to really tighten up his message on this and take himself out of the equation entirely – it now does not matter a bit what people thought when the vaccines were being rolled out and he was President – he needs to face the real hardships and choices people are being FORCED to make right now!
I truly believe the problem President Trump is having with his answers and messaging on this is that he is potentially “worrying” (for lack of a better word) over all of the horribleness going on NOW with the vaccines will reflect badly on him.
But by not clearly delineating that there were NO MANDATES and would have been NO MANDATES were he still President VS. the MANDATES NOW BEING IMPOSED BY JOEBAMA, he would accomplish that goal (avoiding possible blowback to him) as well as STANDING UP FOR OUR FREEDOMS.
I heard that interview twice tonight; so I have no idea where you are coming from. Pres. Trump did not in any way agree with mandates; he was talking about immunity, and therapeutics!
Pres. Trump did NOT have anything to do with the creation of these “vaccines”; he provided the mechanisms to those involved in the government and industry to move forward quickly. That’s it. Don’t confuse his statements with your mindset.
Obviously, the Color Revolution is working. They put it all together in a neat little package long before November 3, 2020 and people fell for it and it continues today.
Do not be deceived by this ongoing Color Revolution.
Please reread what I wrote. I know President Trump did not agree to mandates and I did not write that he did so.
I said he could make the distinction between himself and Joebama by pressing the case that while he was President there were NO MANDATES, and would NOT HAVE BEEN MANDATES NOW were he still in charge, as opposed to Joebama pressing MANDATES.
I haven’t confused anything with my mindset and nowhere did I say President Trump had anything to do with the creation of the vaccines.
Sorry, but I’m not one of the deceived – you may not be aware that President Trump was booed at his Alabama rally when he started talking vaccine, and did not mention the vaccines at all in the most recent rally.
I am a strong President Trump supporter, I voted for him twice, but I am honestly critiquing President Trump’s current messaging on the vaccines – AS A PERSON UNDER A MANDATE – who may not have a job in a little over a week – and I’m saying his messaging on the vaccine needs to be aligned much tighter and stronger to where his supporters are at with this – and that would be for him to more forcefully denounce the mandates – and that is what I truly believe he needs to do.
Excellent explanation of the distinction.
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Last week, I wrote PDJT at his website and encouraged him to make his efforts/his rallies more focused on specific issues. One such issue was vaccine mandates:
“More and more folks, on both sides of the political spectrum, are going to be destroyed by these unconstitutional mandates. There needs to be a smart and concerted effort to get cases into the system, hopefully get injunctions, and get to the Supreme Court as soon as possible. Something this huge can’t be left to a myriad of small skirmishes in the wrong places. The best legal minds need to be pressed into service. Again, you could spearhead this effort and you know we would back you and donate.”
I have no illusions that he’ll even see my letter, but if he can’t focus his efforts better better at rallies, he will be missing opportunities to organize/increase his base.
He needs to say ‘vaccines’ are dangerous and ineffective. Saying no mandates or not talking about ‘vaccines’ is not enough. Would help if he also said Fauci played him and Covid is no more deadly than a middling seasonal flu. Suck it up and don’t worry about your legacy or future political ambitions. The country is being severely damaged right now.
I agree
I concur. President Trump needs to state FORCEFULLY that Vaccine Mandates are Illegal (UnConstitutional) and a Denial of our Civil and Human Rights.
Maybe tomorrow night in Iowa?
“Pres. Trump did NOT have anything to do with the creation of these “vaccines”; he provided the mechanisms to those involved in the government and industry to move forward quickly.”
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And that was the problem–he moved things along TOO quickly, without getting proper advice about adequate testing.
It’s too late for PDJT now. He won’t be running in 2024 anyway. But much blame is on him for allowing these vaxes to progress without normal drug trials. Yet his ego will not let him admit his mistakes. The buck stopped with him while he was President.
Yes, I fear President Trump will take himself out of the running for 2024 and our governor, DeSantis, will step into his place. Why do I fear? We need him as Florida governor and not off in a Hail Mary action as yet another ineffective President. The Office of The President only confers power to insiders. DeSantis needs to lead the way for a “grassroots” rebirth of The Republic from strong States.
This! x1000!
I did not hear him say he was vaxxed; only that he had immunity. And if he is vaxxed, he has a personal physician who is taking care of his needs, so no one has any idea what he has really taken.
He has to be very careful how he answers these controversial questions.
Clearly, any critical thinking person would know for a fact that President Trump had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of these “vaccines”. He did what a POTUS should do during such an emergency, he waived the standard governmental regulations to move along quickly to get results that would benefit the people.
He was emphatic about therapeutics and natural immunity and against mandates. What more do you want?
I have heard NOBODY on these boards EVER say PDJT created or helped create the clotshot. I have heard PDJT repeat over and over how he got the bureaucracy out of the way so the clotshots could be produced at “warp speed.” I have heard him bragging about how great the clotshot is and how many lives it has saved. I have heard him take all the credit for the quick roll-out of clotshots.
What I want as a supporter and voter for PDJT is for him to stop bragging about how he and his administration helped hurry up the availability of clotshots. I would like for him to address the Israeli data showing they are useless and dangerous. I would like to hear him emphatically denounce “mandates” that force people to choose between a job and their health. Yeah. Little things like that.
There are about dozen of us and the more articulate will get double digit upvotes. But yes, too few.
what you outline is ugly, frightening, and dystopian.
your points are also well thought out, logically sound, and very plausible.
while i hope you’re wrong, you make a heckuva case.
hang in there, JTM.?
There is no law, but employers do have right to issue their own demands/requirements on employees. Just like how they donate to BLM, or whatever other leftist aggression and tyranny they support, the leftist leaders dog whistle and all the other leftists comply, just like all the ‘good Germans’ did.
Potential employer liability for requiring unapproved med treatment without any govt mandate.
Employers are using covid to cull employees. No one has a right to a job.
Wong. You terminate an employee for no reason, your reemployment assistance account gets dinged for their UI. Lulz on the employer. I hope they get bankrupted.
Terminating for misconduct is for specific acts or omissions by employees. Employers mandating an experimental therapeutic with an abysmal track record and firing employees for the sole reason they refused to take it is not termination for misconduct. Pay up, employer suckas!
Actually, employers don’t. HIPPA is still the law of the land.
No employer has a right to force an employee to take an experimental therapeutic. None. I hope the employees sue the crap out of the employers who mandate this “or else.”
Employers do not have the right to violate people’s civil rights as outlined in the US Constitution if they are operating in this country. Why do you think they are so concerned about Discrimination & WorkPlace Harassment lawsuits? Nope, they don’t get a pass on US law.
The vaxxed will file their suits when the actual damages done by the vax comes to light.
I mean no disrespect but who’s going to do what? I am highly suspect there is a legal remedy out of this. These people have no qualms about breaking the law. I once heard a quote from a former gangster.
“The problem with operating outside the law is that you no longer have the protections of it.”
That was before our very own Fed Govt announced it’s cartel mentality. I know they have hinted but now we are in a different place. I ask all of you to keep resisting if you can. There’s a reason for this full court press I am certain. Even if it’s for only a couple more months. By February if it feels safe maybe revisit but if you can try and come up with a reason to sideline your jobs for a bit longer.
Fortifying a red state like Florida would be ideal. However it’s a matter of time before the Marxist decide they want to spoil our party. This is what they do. It’s ok as long as we are prepared to spoil back. I am in a similar boat, it’s not easy. But neither is being free.
The marxists have to spoil our party because they cannot successfully create or maintain a societal and physical infrastructure. They must suck off of (and ultimately destroy) an existing infrastructure.
That is an exact description of one Barrack H. Obama.
I hate to say it, but in California we are “at will” and I believe we don’t have a way to sue for wrongful termination. I hope I’m wrong because I can feel it coming my way. 🙁
Washington is also an “ar will” state. There is no legal recourse for those fired, they don’t even care about the whos, whys and wherefores.
Florida is an at will state. If you are terminated for reasons other than misconduct, you get to tap the employer’s UI account for reemployment assistance benefits. Do it. Bankrupt the jackwagons.
NY is also an “at will” state.
Some law organizations and lawyers attuned to these mandates (Liberty Council, Robert Barnes), are recommending applying for the exemptions, then if denied, and ultimately terminated to do as follows:
Liberty Council (go to their website, lots of good info, @ lc.org), recommends if the exemption is denied, next step is to file a claim for wrongful termination with both State and Federal EEOC, then if no relief from EEOC, time to hire a lawyer.
I actually called Liberty Council as well, and what I’ve outlined above is what they communicated to me. The woman I spoke to shared that they have 7 lawyers and thousands of cases – I believe they are a non profit organization and run on donations, but could be wrong.
Robert Barnes (go to his Twitter, also lots of great info., including sample exemption letters) has recommended similar, although I am not sure about the filing with EEOC – he is taking cases and has active cases – he stated on one of his webcasts that these cases will cost about $10k – 12k, that he can give a better rate, but to go for the exemption first, and then if denied, time to bring wrongful termination suits.
I am definitely pursuing any/all remedies if in fact my exemption is denied and I am ultimately terminated. Still waiting on the powers that be to decide and communicate whether mine has been accepted or not.
In my case I also belong to a Union, and the Union has indicated they will take up a fight on behalf of terminated employees as well, but we will see.
Agree. Robert Barnes is very articulate and an outstanding attorney and exceptional Constitutional Law expert.
Precisely! Agree 100%. To go along with that no one in government or the sycophants in the media will be held accountable. And the other two branches of government will do absolutely nothing as usual.
See, at my little company we are taking a more effective, American track. We are offering, free of charge, Ivermectin, Zpacks, supplements, electronic thermometers and pulse oximeters along with free telemed meeting to get prescription for every employee. No mandates, no threats of loss of work, just FREEE safe health. Seems more effective to save my employees rather than fire them.
Interested in how I did this? Join me over at https://ourfreenation.org/groups/?covid-19/
If they work in an At Will State, the employer will use that as a defense
” many of the suits will be won on grounds of wrongful termination”, you think? And what about the judges? Who can count on them today to do the right thing?
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The AGs need to sue the companies for subjecting workers to an unreasonable safety hazard.
Can no longer trust healthcare anymore.
What? is his patience wearing thin again?
People need to refuse until they are fired and then seek the correct lawyer.
People also need to read the 9th and 10th amendments to the constitution and then make their employer read them as well.
This is nothing more then intimidation from communist that will not hold water
Unfortunately our court and justice systems cannot be relied upon to be just.
Law, in America, is no longer the answer.
Robert Barnes keeps pointing out that it’s not even a vaccine mandate, illusory as that may be, it’s a testing mandate.
To whit, POTATUS said “…to ensure their workers are fully vaccinated or face testing at least once a week. ” If OSHA ever gets around to putting anything in writing, that’s exactly what it will be, with very robust exemption allowances. No one should be falling for this crap. Ask for a religious exemptions and sue if they deny them. The courts are upholding religious exemption requests.
But people are being fired.
Then those people should access those attorneys who are available to sue those employers.
Because they are not asking for religious exemption.
Why should we have to ask for religious exemption?
It’s difficult to believe the evil of this administration.
We don’t call them Nazi’s for kicks and grins.
Communists!
You have to admit, these Nazis are damn smart in how they go about implementing their Gestapo tactics. If the uniparty pubs were 1/10th as smart or dedicated to implementing a MAGA agenda, we would not be in the position we find ourselves….One door knock away, in the middle of the night, to march us off to the box cars.
Communists!
Priceless!
Too bad her mic was attached to the podium.
mic drop
Sums it up very nicely!
Election Fraud put Joe Biden in the White House.
Joe Biden is not your Medical Doctor.
The experimental Covid vaccine will kill many people.
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Do a Pre-planning funeral and cemetery arrangements
before taking the experimental Covid vaccine.
Any Red State legislature can simply pass a law making it illegal for an employer to require any employee or contractor to be vaccinated as a condition of employment! That’s all that’s needed.
If this is the case, why other than Montana has it not happened? All I can say is many of us are beyond frustrated with the GOP.
Since most of GOP are card carrying members of the UniParty or wannabes.
That’s why it is so important to vet Patriots.
I am convinced most of the GOP reps in the state of NY are Democrats that ran as Republicans knowing the people didn’t want the Democrats. They are larping, as the kids say. So Tom Reed, my Republican Representative is really a Democrat. He often has his pic on this site for voting with the Democrats when it matters most.
For this reason I don’t adhere to the argument that we need to replace the Republicans in the primary and if we can’t just vote for whichever one the establishment rigged the game for. I now am convinced we should not vote at all. No Republicans should be elected if all they are is stealth Democrats. Let all the Democrats be elected so we can rid ourselves of the fake Republicans.
At least the picture will be clear to the morons who only watch the nightly news on ABC, CBS, or NBC. Because this bipartisanship bs is killing the country. When our Republicans go along with this it lends legitimacy to the madness. See?! Everyone is for it, even the Republicans. If no one is going to form a third party the only way to fix our problems is to do things differently. We actually have nothing to lose. It isn’t as if the fake Republicans are of value to anyone but the Democrats. The country is going to he!! in a handbasket anyways. We have zero to lose. And it would be worth it to get rid of the likes of McConnell. I’m not from Kentucky but I’m pretty sick of Kentucky sending this bi!ch back to the senate everytime.
Voting for Republicans is just allowing yourself to be manipulated by Democrats. And I’m done with that. Period. And of course the machine voting is rigged anyway. Its a waste of time. Now maybe you’re one of the few who feel you have an actual Republican representative then that person may be worthy of a vote but I’ll never vote for Tom Reed again. And if he loses. I’ll be happy.
Florida fines $5,000 per violation for these stupid “mandates.” If you get “mandated” in Florida, let the Governor and the AG know ASAP.
I wish we would all just stop calling this a “vaccine” as it is not under the age old definition that existed since May 1918.
From 1918 to 2015 It read that a definition of vaccination was [Injection of a killed or weakened infectious organism in order to “prevent” a specific disease]
In 2015 The CDC change the wording of vaccination to say [The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce “Immunity” to a specific disease]
The CDC has changed the definition of vaccination again in August 2021 to fit the China Virus; [The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce “protection” from a specific disease.
Big difference for Big Pharma and Big Government. The global Marxist Corporatism Great Reset.
March 1 2014 definition of vaccination on the CDC’s website.
waybackmachine address: https://web.archive.org/web/20140301002258/https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm
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The Definitions below are Post 2015 and updated again in September 2021
Quite a difference between the 2014 and 2015 definitions too. Wonder, were these definitions always changed on a yearly basis?
2015 to 2021 was pretty steady
And as others have noted, by being “cutesy” with the definitions, one could potentially argue effectively, maybe even in a court of law, that one is, by definition, vaccinated against Covid via the use of various vitamins that boost the immune system and mitigate the symptoms of Covid.
Vaccine can be administered “by injection, by nasal spray, or the mouth” (vitamins usually taken orally), vitamins “stimulate the body’s immune response”, and lastly, vitamins “produce protection” (not immunization as the old definition claimed, which they had to change to reflect the reality of these vaccines), from a specific disease.
There’s our entire case right there for the various vitamins, HCQ, Ivermectin meeting the new vaccine and vaccination definitions!
What do you think? Let’s go for it 🙂
Regardless of what all may qualify as being “vaxxed”, I am very against any mandates.
As am I – very angrily so in fact – and trying hard to keep it in check.
Excellent points.
Only when someone was trying to push something.
Remember the Ministry of Truth (Whatever we decide it is today??)
Boy did George have it correct, except for the year.
It dosent matter what you see
or into it what you read
you can do it your own way
……if its done just how I say !
Independence , Limited
Freedom of Speech is words that they will bend
Choice is made for you my friend
FREEDOM ….. no longer Frees you !
Metallica
You know.. if you stand back and put your evil hat on… this is a brilliant move. Government creates the monster illness. Purposefully or negligently releases it. Demands GMO miracle shots. Forces employers to mandate it. The government just caused transference. The government transferred their liability in infecting the population… to the employers trying to treat it… and any and all side effects will be blamed on the shot (employers) and not the government (COVID creators). My bet is you’ll never see anything from OSHA because it would give employers a legal leg to blame the government for forced mandates. And currently… senile old Joe isn’t of sound mind to be listened to. So once they 86 the faker in Chief… they will say “you shouldn’t have listened to that guy. He’s not of sound mind.” They’re hiding Kamala and she’s taking vacations to keep her from saying more stupid things so she’ll have plausible deniability. These SOBs are brilliant. Evil but brilliant.
Gee, kinda sounds like the IRS and tax collection, doesn’t it?
Very interesting,
Safest Medication in the World: Ivermectin
Oct 03, 2021
2.90k views
INDIA
https://tv.gab.com/channel/starcrest/view/safest-medication-in-the-world-ivermectin-61592c420debd0584bcb7216
OSHA hasnt set up a precedent to impose forced govt vaccinations, but that hasnt stopped businesses from doing so…..especially in the medical field.
Anyone else find that a bit odd?
The medical field must comply with vax requirements or face reduced reimbursements for Medicare. Few medical establishments can survive without medicare patients. Medical businesses have been requiring flu vax for this reason for several years. However, it seems many healthcare orgs started requiring covid vax due to wokeness and perceived societal pressure.
So maybe time for all the unemployed, unVaxxed medical workers to offer an alternative to Fed Funded Medical Care? That would be an American Solution.
Where is the “vax requirement” for taking the clotshot coming from? Exactly. It isn’t. Sue the h.e.doublehockeysticks out of these mandating behemoth “medical” groups.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/adults/vaccination-records.html
So….blood tests to detect antibodies?
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-adaptive-biotechnologies-t-detect-covid-test
https://www.t-detect.com/
Yes, T cell immune response is the gold standard!
But so far one is considered a heretic to suggest natural immunity as an alternative to vax.
Yup – and I made it a point in my exemption request – that no “special” accommodation was necessary, among other things, that I was on par with the vaccinated due to my acquired natural immunity and I included a link to the Israeli study.
Who can believe we’ve sunk so low so fast? In February of 2020, with Trump in office, the US was on top of the World. Record low unemployment, rebuilt economy, energy independence, closed border, etc. trump did EVERYTHING we wanted as a Nation! Now a total shitstorm. Hard to believe…..
Joe’s executive order said the vaccines prevented infection.
This is no longer true. See CDC words and his executive order
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/09/09/executive-order-on-requiring-coronavirus-disease-2019-vaccination-for-federal-employees/
Your Order is no longer valid.
In the Real World, the Vaccinated can still get COVID-19 and can Spread it to others.
FJB
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And, no, I’m not talkin about Brandon.
As a Federal LEO employee who works for DHS, I want to know how Gov’t can pick and chose which Federal Agencies to mandate the vaccination… Why does the Postal Service get exemptions? Why does Congress and staff get exemptions? If we are in a life and death pandemic then why isn’t the Gov’t pushing all Federal employees to be vaxxed? I honestly can’t believe this will hold up in any court of law….
Most speculation here is that the postal service knows where the election fraud “ballots are buried”. Probably similar stories/deals depending on the agency. Unchecked power is always used to reward friends and punish enemies. There is no one left to stop them unless we decide to save ourselves.
No significant difference in the private sector alignment with government power. That is classical fascism.
Do not count on any court of law – the Fourth Branch controls the Judicial.
Sundance has researched the Fourth Branch extensively.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/?s=fourth+branch
Postal service helped bring in truck loads of fraudulent ballots in the 2020 election. That’s their reward.
“As things became weirder I got to thinking and wondered why I was driving complete ballots from New York to Pennsylvania. I didn’t know why, so I decided to speak up,” Morgan said.
Col. Tony Schaeffer, who is working with The Amistad Project team, said the organization had backed up Morgan’s story.
https://usareally.com/8516-breaking-mass-fraud-witnesses-testified
They still need the postal service to backdate ballots in future elections in the weeks and months after election day once they figure out how many they still need “in transit”.
I agree with your thoughts in principle, and these mandates, whoever is doing the mandating, are completely against everything this country is supposed to be about, but the explanations I’ve heard do at least seem to make sense:
1) Postal Service does not belong to the Executive Branch – the branch doing the mandating, nor to any of the other branches – and in fact is the only Agency specifically created by the Constitution – so in essence, an Independent Agency that is not funded by the Federal Government but its’ fees for services. All other agencies are creations of Congress and part of the Executive Branch.
2) Congress and the Judiciary are not Federal Employees subject to the Executive Branch. Neither is employed by the Executive Branch, but are themselves their own branches, the other two of the three branches.
So Biden’s executive order can therefore only apply to federal employees who work for the executive branch, and his mandate cannot extend to the population at large, and so that’s where this fake OSHA comes into play to try to mandate to the country as a whole (or to the working people at least).
I work for the State of MA and I am mandated to get the vaccine per the Governor’s mandate to his Executive Branch employees – and that is as far as it goes. If other employers choose to mandate, they will do so on their own but the Governor cannot do so. So its’ the same premise.
So how do the Governors mandate students at Universities get vaccinated? They aren’t employees at all.
I think that would be if you are talking the State run Universities as opposed to Private Universities?
That would be my guess but don’t know for certain.
Why aren’t we already hearing about court cases? Could it be no one can get “standing”?
Whitehouse staffers are on this now.
Its not a ” vaccine ” at all.
It is mRNA gene manipulation.
FRAUD invalidates everything.
Nuremberg – 2 , is coming.
The federal government is not acting in good faith –
cannot the states put forth a mandate AGAINST a mandate?
sigh ……… yep , right after the full vote audits.
” we are through the looking glass people ” as someone said earlier.
On the bright side , you KNOW this stuff and YOU are in place to educate the newly awakened !!!!!!
There has been an EO for Federal contractors, and I am facing that by 12/8 and so must start shots by 11/3.
I am applying for a religious exemption partly based on the Project Veritas disclosure here yesterday.
Pray for me.
Praying for you
Praying for all in your position .
In addition to the fetal tissue piece when detailing your religious opposition, also state that alterations of my God given genetic makeup, through the blood, is 100% opposite of your belief in that which is recorded throughout Biblical history; “Life is in the blood” and we are uniquely and wonderfully made by God. As these are not vaccines in the historic scientific sense, I can not allow my God given genetic make up to be altered through the blood by these covid shots
also all available covid shots are still emergency use only! pfizer is still emergency use only on FDA website on 8/23, 0r 8/24. Approved is Pfizer/Biontech which is UNAVAILABLE, and wont be. It doesn
t have immunity shield, and all the other shots would be removed. The scamdemic is collapsing rapidly. Don
t take the shot under any circumstances. Plenty of jobs available. You probably cant be replaced at your job either. This won
t last til Christmas. NY mandated healthcare workers to get shot by 9/27. Almost none have been fired in my area. They are on 30 day leave if no exemption claimed. If claiming exemption, still working. They cant be replaced.Prayers up for you – I’m in that boat too.
I’m waiting on my religious exemption request to either be approved or denied, submitted this past Tuesday.
Do NOT accept the mark of the beast
I’m in the same boat, though our company hasn’t released an official policy yet. They have provided a two page questionnaire that we are required to fill out and submit.
In fact, if you read the Safer Federal Workforce guidance regarding how the EO is applied and to which contracts, my contract isn’t subject to the mandate unless my company signs an addendum to require it, since it was executed prior to the EO and extends for several years.
I’ve been told (unofficially) by those above me that the company is signing addendums with the federal government for all contracts across the board. If true, I believe this is what is keeping them from releasing their policy – they need to have the addendums completed first so they can truthfully say it is required of ALL employees.
What’s the EO #? I thought there isn’t one.
Whoops, I see there is one:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2021/09/14/2021-19924/ensuring-adequate-covid-safety-protocols-for-federal-contractors
I wonder if we work for the same company. I just receive an email today from Robert that states the EO for contractors. I need to speak to a lawyer as I too will be applying for a religious exemption
Ah yes, the mRNA Gene Therapy used Human Embryonic Kidney (HEK) in their development process.
Another argument is say I believe in the Bible as the word of God. The book of Revelation explains it. Once you make the vaccine mandatory for commerce (job) then it is the mark of the beast.
Constitution says we have the freed0m to practice our religion. The company can’t scrutinize an employee’s religion and pass judgement.
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1446108843910574083
I Watched that! It`s all falling apart!
MSM coverage?
For those who make the decision to comply, for whatever reason, it seems it would be to their benefit (at some future date, or should there be side-effects) to write that they are complying, but only doing so under duress.
Yes ! They should all write that under their signature in black bold letters.
Get a blood test before and after the shot. Any movement in the wrong direction would be credible evidence of causality, especially if many people did the same thing and someone aggregated their records…for example a litigation law firm engaged in workplace disability lawsuit founded upon premeditated plausible cause of harm by mandating a known/suspected injurious shot.
So, they’ll know what to put as cause of death on your death certificate?
Don
t comply period. It
s collapsing. NY has fired very few healthcare worker because they CAN`T. No company can lose 10% of thier workforce and function. This is over in months. Tons of other jobs out there. If your skilled they will be calling you back.Congress needs to file a suit to stop the vax of Fed Conteactors. The EO usurps the Legislative authority of the Separations claus.
Joe Biden fu*ks American citizens every day of his illegitimate regime.
Per his chinese and muslim masters.
This employee covid vax crap is close to home. Daughter got a company email alluding to u better get the vax soon. This is so bad.
Ignore it. Anybody skilled and cant be replaced they back off. There is no fed vax mandate. NY mandated Healthcare and hardly anyone fired, and most didn
t comply. It isn
t going to last much longer.My daughter complied because she didn’t want to leave college. I’m very worried. I understand what you must feel.
Gov. Hochul/D. N.Y. not worried about gettimng rid of Med. workers:
….” Hochul said state officials were “working closely with various hospital systems to find out where we can get other individuals to come in and supplement places like nursing homes.”
“We’re also reaching out to the Department of State to find out about visas for foreign workers, on a limited basis, to bring more nurses over here,” she said.”…….
https://nypost.com/2021/09/22/foreigners-could-replace-nys-unvaccinated-hospital-nursing-home-workers/
NYS has used foreign healthcare workers for many years and they even train and recruit all those who cannot find jobs or have any money/ambition to get an education/training in their home states….because NYS pays for everything: food, clothing, transportation, housing, education and a job too!
I have personal knowledge of this from a NYS recruiter and a relative who worked in a NYS healthcare facility and was a patient in a long-term facility and had to deal with those “recruits”….
They have no foreign workers now due to problems in thier home countries. Didn`t get many out of state workers. Unvaxxed still working or sitting home waiting for the collapse of NY healthcare system.
Don’t get sick and need hospitalization unless you want to be cared for by Natl Guard and the “philipinos”. People should be aware that states have been relaxing care and charting standards for nurses during staffing shortages and covid “surges”.
Almost noone got fired. Unvaxxed still working. ALL BS! Healthcare system will collapse and she knows it.
I hate her. I hope she drops dead.
Have others force the experimental injection mandate on unvaccinated employees. Unfortunately, employers seem more than willing to do just that. F**k joe biden.
Fascism
Western Michigan athletes can continue playing without COVID-19 vaccine, judge rules – mlive.com
Western Michigan University loses appeal over student athletes and vaccine requirement – mlive.com
good ole 6th curcuit
See, I don’t think this is a conspiracy. I think this is a massive fubar, and you ain’t seen nothing yet.
start empaneling hundreds of county grand juries and start issuing thousands of criminal indictments for genoside.
But there is no approved Vaccine.
They can’t force you to take an experimental.
If they did, they would be liable.
I’ll not be taking it.
That is exactly what I told SUNY and I sent them the documentation straight from the FDA. They didn’t give a fig.
A family member has been “retired early” due to their company’s “mandate” deadline of November 1st. Meanwhile this family member has been notified by the families of 2 employees (both males in their 40’s) that they have experienced serious adverse health impacts likely associated with their “mandated” injection.
Who is investigating these occurances?
report yourselves on CDC
s VAERS system. Anybody can do it. Healthcare employees are required by law to do it, but most don
t know that.PSAs to encourage mass reporting on VAERS? Overwhelm the system with information ~ Saul Alinsky.
Liberty Counsel
has a large and detailed list of research and resources on covid-19 issues.
http://www.lc.org/vaccine
The businesses going along with this are in on it of course. Biden is just providing cover for them. When Biden first announced these mandates, my company sent out a memo telling employees exactly what has since happened, that even if this does happen it will probably be months before OSHA sets up the regulations.
No one is being fooled here except for the employees being oppressed by these globalist corporations.
My son in California finally caved when Neusom mandated businesses such as nail salons and hairdressers etc get the poison shot. I had told him it is his decision to make but if he decided to get it to let them know that if anything happened to him I would be talking to Lawyers about suing them.
They control the law and as long as you think the courts provide recourse, they control YOU.
Never mind.
State AG’s may not be able to do anything but the fired employees can sue for unlawful firing, discrimination, and harassment. It’s time these thousands who the media likes to shame band together and sue.
They need to sue for what money they would make through their careers pulse inflation (and raises) as well as a stipend for mental anguish not just for them but for their families.
It’s past time to take a stand.
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Quick question- if there were FJV yard signs and number stickers would people be interested? Myself and a co-worker are contemplating getting this going.
Sue the HELL out of EVERY corporation that requires this BLATENTLY ILLEGAL act.
That will stop it cold.
I need help. My employer is forcing me to get vaxxed
Fake vax card….
It’s all fake, has been from the beginning.
OSHA would have to double their already bloated staff to implement the ‘mandate’ (Not a Law).
Time to lawyer up , you who are being sent home. Sue them into a fine dust.
All you pearl clutching lefties are getting hammered by this ruse.
Democrats want your vote, and help cheating at elections,
But they don’t want you, to have a job.
They want you standing in soup lines with the rest of us.
Same with teachers, Democrats and Unions don’t give a dam about you.
They don’t want you to work, the want you to die off.
When it comes time for us to save your way of life,
Remember that in the voting booth.
Remember Commie filth….
NO MERCY!
JOE BIDEN…PLEASE DIE ALREADY.
Nope…he needs to face JUSTICE first….
America will survive this blip in time. Rest assured the Truth remains King!
Given the gibberish he’s been spouting lately on the road and that even John Kerry says he doesn’t know what’s going on with the submarine deal with Australia, Biden may actually think the federal government is working on federal mandates.
Good news/Bad news:
The good news is my employer takes the same position — if there are not OSHA rules with which to comply, there is nothing for us to do in order to comply.
The bad news, many employees are actually disappointed with this position. While I was thrilled, apparently not everyone was. But we have a lot of people of color here… enough that if a significant number decided to get terminated, it would really hurt the company. I agree with their stance on this. I will do the same. But somehow I think they will never actually write the rule.