The recent indictment of Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann has triggered a significant amount of well intended articles, essentially reconstituting the hope that someone -or some group- might finally be held accountable for the multi-year, multi-issue, multi-institution fraud, better known as ‘spygate’.
Factually, the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was always a complete ruse perpetrated upon the American people, with the intended objective to stop Trump, then hamstring Trump; then cover-up what they were doing to accomplish those goals; and then finally destroy the Trump presidency. Y’all know the story, I ain’t repeating it.
As an outcome of the Sussmann indictment, many are wondering if this is the first domino in a series of explosive political dominoes that might fall and finally collapse the entire house of cards that surrounded the Clinton campaign and their conspiring with intelligence operatives, politicians, media, DOJ and FBI officials.
Yes, there are interesting dynamics within the Sussmann indictment story-lines; and yes, the authors digging through the indictment granules are all well versed in the details and very good at putting forth optimistic possibilities.
Paul Sperry Article Here – TechnoFog Article Here
…and there are likely dozens more, like THIS and THIS and THIS.
Read them all, follow them all and consider them all. However, as to the bigger question: will the Durham probe finally outline all the evidence to prove all the years of deception and fraud perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government?
My short and painful answer is, NO.
The longer answer is attached to the one issue that all researched opinions and analytical theories never touch. The 800lb gorilla in the room that no one will put into their accountability prism, because it blocks all other sunlight:
If Durham was going to reveal what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?
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Bill Barr was the Bondo.
John Durham is the spray paint.
Nothing more then a smoke screen after all this time
I HAVE NO FAITH IN THIS GPVERMENT
A government that hates you is asking you to hate it. A government that doesn’t answer to you…
“I HAVE NO FAITH IN THIS GPVERMENT”
Nor should you. We all (assume most of you) knew by this time last year we had shifted timelines. We all knew the media was left leaning but when the entire apparatus began to outright lie multiple times per day it sent a signal. We are not in Kansas anymore. Learn how to be unconventional in many facets. I will keep using that word because it fits. I know it’s vague but that’s the point.
We are the critical thinkers. How do I know? Because TPTB just assumed because DT endorsed the vaccine we would stand in line with the rest of the herd. Biden has uttered as much a couple times. But we have an ability to think outside the box. We are indeed smarter than them. Honestly I think DT knew that but it’s only a guess.
I am hoping for the best. Durham is on Telegram now and he says in one week shit will hit the fan
Sadly, I think that the so-called Durham Telegraph account is just another false flag operation. The language just does not match someone that would be in the position to which he has been appointed. They are again toying with your emotions. Their whole objective is to precipitate a violent response on our parts, so that they can declare martial law. They are getting close to that trip-wire, but this whole thing will end up being one big miscalculation on the deep state establishment’s part.
Chris B, I hate to break it to you, but that ain’t John Durham. I’m not telling you to delete that account, cuz I’m sure there will be some entertaining posts, but just know that the being on the other end ain’t Mr Durham.
No way Durham is on Telegram or anything else. PUH leze.
Lol…
LOL. How many times have we heard that nonsense?
Sounds like Q is now on Telegram
From Paul Sperry: Regarding the 27-page indictment, when 2 paragraphs would do.
“…That is what we call a ‘speaking indictment,’ meaning it is far more detailed than is required for a simple indictment under [federal statute] 1001,” which outlaws making false statements and representations to federal investigators, former assistant FBI Director Chris Swecker said in an interview with RealClearInvestigations.
“It is damning,” he added. “And I see it as a placeholder for additional indictments, such as government grant and contract fraud, computer intrusion, the Privacy Act and other laws against dissemination of personally identifiable information, and mail fraud and wire fraud – not to mention conspiracy to commit those offenses.” “
Look! A squirrel!
Yes look over there!!! Sussman or whatever his name is will get a kiss on the cheek and a very lucrative book deal! Money laundering at its best.
Where!
Bingo!
Mail fraud you say? Maybe he can focus that on another case…
Oh wait… I see the squirrel.
Do you really, honestly think that Durham would have taken 2 years just to release a nothingburger? When DJT is involved? I don’t.
The Mueller investigation took 22 months and cost more than $30 million dollars. Found nothing.
Both impeachments took a long time and found nothing. Clinesmith got 6 months probation.
Sussman is looking at 5 years, but I’ll bet that he doesn’t do 5 minutes in jail.
The Just-Us department take care of their own. They’ve all known each other for years.
It’s a club, and American citizens ain’t in it.
*With regards to George Carlin
Well then hopefully the lesson will be educational in the sense of becoming more wise.
The reality is radically more diabolical than you seem to have yet realized.
At least you’ve already made it this far, which shows you aren’t lost.
Just still learning and that’s respectable.
“ which outlaws making false statements and representations to federal investigators”
Therein lies the coverup. The FBI was lied to. Nobody at the FBI is at fault for following procedure.
The “Speaking Indictment” speaks volumes for a continued cover up.
The (Narrative) begins with Sussman, thought to be the “good citizen” passing along information to the supposedly duped FBI General Counsel at a requested meeting. STOP
This meeting is the fulcrum, whIch pivots the FBI/DOJ’s role as co-conspirator of (Spy-Gate) and ‘architect’ of it’s cover up to being the victim of the Hillary campaign and operators working for the DNC. How does “good citizen” Sussman get a sit down with the FBI General Counsel to pass along information about a candidate in the middle of a heated presidential campaign? Are we to believe this FBI General Counsel did not know Sussman or who he represented, and had no idea what Sussman was up to? It appears that Sussman was, at one time, a contemporary employee with this FBI General Counsel at the DOJ—both were prosecutors.
The explanation and possibly the direction of where this indictment finally goes is blurbed by Benjamin Wittes, Lawfare
“Start with Baker, [the FBI General Counsel] on whose testimony the whole case will ultimately ride…..we do know what Baker told a congressional investigation in a sworn deposition in October 2018…..Baker makes clear that he had a “personal relationship” with Sussmann, on the basis of which he took a meeting with him and accepted the information, about which he was “quite concerned” and which he immediately gave to investigators…..The problem for Durham is that in this deposition, Baker repeatedly disclaims specific memory of whether Sussmann identified his clients.”
Aside from Wittes being a personal friend and former colleague of Baker at Brookings and Lawfare, the presiding judge, Christopher Cooper (appointed by Obama) is a professional acquaintance of Sussman, and the judge’s wife Amy has represented Lisa Page since 2018. (AG Merrick Garland presided over the Cooper marriage). Lisa Page’s boss was FBI General Counsel James Baker. Wittes has had personal correspondence with Page, given her advice, and encouragement; he will likely be scripting the narrative as this trial unfolds.
Yes. Those poor FBI victims! Like the poor Pentagon, blown up on 9/11! The outrage! Even if it was true, it only highlights an impossibly abysmal incompetence on the part of BOTH entities. They think THIS will excuse them?
Funny thing, the “17” entity talked about placeholders in his “drops”.
Either that or an attempt to look like he’s been busy all this time. He’s a bureaucrat. He can write 27 pages about a door knob.
It’s only as long as it needs to be to plant the narrative:
“The Spygate case was chock full of obvious crimes, including real versions of all the fake things they tried to claim about Trump’s “team”. This indictment makes it pretty clear that Durham has approached the whole endeavor with an eye towards only looking at things he can view through a certain narrative construction, and remaining willfully blind to everything else.
It’s the famous Federal Bureaucracy of Matters patented “looking into it” scandal-burying and evidence seize-and-destroy operation, complete with a case on record they can file everything away under, to mark it ”closed”.
You can tell there’s nothing else coming because this indictment is constructed upon a narrative that works to preclude charges against other parties, rather than to expose them. And the legal penalties involved are insignificant, signaling that there is no danger to the other parties involved.
In fact, if you read it carefully you’ll see that rather than implicating the other parties, Durham goes out of his way to ascribe each one of them a justification for each of their actions other than conspiring to rig up a false investigation — essentially creating an official record that authoritatively absolves them of severe criminality. These charges work to cement the fix.
[THIS IS THE FALSE NARRATIVE:]
If Sussman is at fault for failing to provide notice of a potential conflict of interest, one can pretend that all the rest of what went on was merely downstream consequences resulting from poor judgements, mistakes, overzealousness, and incompetence by people otherwise acting in good faith, all stemming from a single misapprehension only caused by Sussman’s action.
Durham has spent the duration of his investigation collecting all the evidence and systematically assembling it to trace routes of cause and effect, in order to find some single point at which it all can be blamed on an ‘error’ — and this is it.
He could charge Sussman with the conspiracy to do it, which would open new pathways leading to others, for example. Instead, the charges are framed to self-resolve around a single individual.
It’s almost exactly what Mueller did, too — and Horowitz. On the surface, each issued indictments and recommendations that were pretending to “go after” people for wrongdoings, but the real purpose of each was to conceal crimes by creating an “official” narrative-setting device that can be referenced to redirect culpability away from certain actors by constructing a scenario that omits or ignores key facts and lays the groundwork for presumptive legal defense, investigation dropping, dismissal of charges etc. for those other actors, and to package it together in a format that isn’t directly falsifiable.
And the method behind writing each is the same: Collect all the evidence, construct the least harmful narrative that can’t be disproven using that evidence, and then write it into an official document as though it is fact. Promote it to both sides as though it will benefit their cause in order to get everyone to accept it as unassailable truth, and draw out the process until everyone doesn’t care anymore and chalks up the lack of actual significant results (for either side) as a fault of the system.
The final outcome reflects the ‘original sin’: An assumption of good faith effort by the investigators.
The truth is out there… for anyone who wants to look, plain as day. And the fake news narrative is firmly implanted in NPC minds, too; In about two weeks they’ll be smirking and saying: ‘They DID investigate, and they charged a couple guys for making the smallest mistakes! Why are you blowing it up into some vast conspiracy? Since you’re the one who thinks all our elections are hacked, I’d think you’d want them to look into it, but I guess not when it’s Trump working with the Russians, right? Only when he loses, and then it’s everybody in on a big conspiracy!’
Those trying to argue that’s its “just the beginning” are depending upon pure speculation, falling for the exact same thing Mueller fans did, and for the same reason: they fail to understand the purpose of these actions in the context of a long history of similar examples, and project their own misunderstanding of ‘good faith’ onto the investigators (solely due to hype and suggestion).
The impetus for further indictments would have to come out of Biden’s DOJ, currently staffed with the friends and co-conspirators of the Spygate plot. Not to mention, no D.C. judge OR jury is going to aggressively pursue real justice, as proven by the Sullivan fiasco, the FISA courts, Clinesmith and McCabe’s sentences, the Stone, Manafort, Butina cases, the BLM cases, and the current gulag they are allowing to occur with imprisoned election fraud protestors
Durham cucking out as expected will secure the last gentle sheet-throwing over the furniture to remove any chance of accidentally forcing anyone with an obligation to do something about it from having to see it in any official capacity, because that might cause news dramatic enough to burst the NPC illusions.
Of course, in the Post-Covid Confederacy of Dunces these kind of whiskered soft touches are increasingly unnecessary — the citoyens of idiocracy have shown themselves to be impervious to all but the most painfully evident truths, so long as the TV channels keep blaring out hysterical trash uniformly.
Face it: The plotters buried much of their conspiracy under national security classifications and prevented Trump from getting to it by making him the target of an investigation. Mueller covered up the evidence by holding it under the special counsel (and destroying some), the Inspector General limited his inspection to avoid finding clear guilt, the D.C. courts stalled the discovery process out clear to Election Fraud Day, and Barr head faked that he was looking into it, then wrapped it up under Durham to stall for another year, and now they’re closing it all up with a minor process charge against a single scapegoat.
Very little consequential information is being revealed that wasn’t known a three years ago, except perhaps for things that let people like Bongino [OR EVEN BETTER, OUR SUNDANCE!!] deduce specific details. A few press people and a few RINOs both will turn some hay grandstanding about it, and some of the news coverage might spark a very few people to doubt the story the press fed them and actually research what happened — that’s about it.
The institutional corruption that became first apparent to many at the start of Spygate has accelerated far beyond that scandal; the rate of institutional collapse has outpaced its rot, and trust in every institution and many core assumptions about our country have failed to such a degree that skepticism of the DOJ almost seems like a quaint relic of a bygone era; events have accelerated to such a level that our society and nation is existentially imperiled, and we stand at the brink of cultural immolation, civil genocide, economic ruin, famine, pestilence, world war, and civilizational extinguishment.
The fight is upon our doorstep.”
(From patriots dot win)
Spot On. No one goes to jail. No one rats on anyone else. We’ve all been screwed (again, surprise). IT IS OVER. No one is gonna do a damn thing about anything, as the rats take over the ship, and turn her belly up for the globalists to feed on. Game. Set. Match. Pay the penalty. EVERYONE JUST TALKS.
Consider this approach…..
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1441189805124030464.html
Thanks Sundance.
I’m wondering if his indictment is speaking to all involved in this saying, let Sussmann take the hit, the rubes will think I did something, then let me go quietly away. If I can’t go quietly away, well, my speaking can get a little louder if needed. And for those hard of hearing, it says clean up your act and don’t be so blatant next time. MuleEar won’t be around forever.
Only possibility at this point is a dog and pony show.
Think!
Don’t let these psych jobs play you.
It ain’t a game.
In retrospect, this nation was pretty well on it’s way downhill when the lie re nukes in Iraq was turned into a trillion dollar plus and 1000s of American lives lost or severely impacted scam. It paved the way for a Kenyan joke to begin undermining America’s world standing. While the absolute farce of Trump Russia was further dividing the nation, the Kenyan had already created harder racial divisions with his intervention in Ferguson and other placed where his socialist agenda was pushed. The fact that the evil hag with the blue dress staining husband could openly enrich herself while lying about her failures as SOS, further exposed the corruption that is so deep in the DC swamp, nothing now in the Kenyan’s 3rd term should be a surprise.
Excellent analysis,but it really started with the assassination of JFK.The only restrain was the USSR,once it was gone it was all over.
That’ the truth!
Spot on Truth
Well, ackshually, it really started in 1861, when St. Abraham shredded the Constitution (by declaring a “state of emergency” and assuming the role of dictator* – neither of which was or is provided for in the Supreme Law of the Land) and embarked on a war to convert the Founders’ Republic into an empire. All with the support of the American People. (A few objected, but he threw them in jail; the Supreme Court also objected, but he threatened to “pack” it and they folded.)
The Constitution isn’t self-enforcing. It is a contract between two parties: the American People and the government entity/ies it created. There is no higher authority to appeal to. If the American People don’t care to enforce it, it becomes, as Dubya Bush helpfully clued us, “just a piece of paper.”
And Lincoln succeeded (see him on his throne, complete with fascist symbolism, at the Lincoln Memorial), the Founders’ Republic ceased to exist, and the formerly sovereign, voluntarily federated States became no more than provinces under the Central government. And the Constitution has been nothing but a skin suit ever since, which Lincoln’s successors pretend to heed but ignore when it suits them and they think they can get away with it.
Everything that has happened to America in the last 160 years has been entirely predictable, including the present, possibly terminal predicament.
(*Btw, the role of Dictator was provided for in the constitution of the Roman Republic – see Sulla, Caesar, et al. – which is where the term comes from. But the American Founders for some reason didn’t see fit to include it in the Constitution they wrote. They were smart, educated men; I doubt this oversight was unintentional.)
So, what is Jefferson Davis?
How say ye, Philalethes (Lit. “Lover of Oblivion”) to the charge that Americans are ever eager to deny their neighbors the Constitutional rights that they themselves champion?
Be it Lincoln, Wilson, Hoover, Roosevelt or Lyndon Johnson, when Americans are stirred to trample the rights of others the Constitution is small impediment.
Thus, the 2A stands as the last line of defense against overreaching bureaucrats and the noisome busybodies who enable them.
That would be the result of the de-Christianization of the country.
Yes. The North, Lincoln, illegally invaded the South, and subjugated it, after a Reign of Terror (Sherman’s March to the Sea and “Reconstruction”). That was bad for the South. But the worst was to come with FDR’s institution of the administrative state, paid for after he seized the people’s gold and gave them paper money, that now rules us arbitrarily in partnership with corporations, and holds the people, and their elected reps in contempt.
You are correct John. Once the deep state saw they could get away with assassinating a President, they have never looked back.
No one said there were nukes in Iraq. They said WMDs, and poison gas is a WMD (so are bio weapons like Covid btw) and Saddam dropped poison gas on the Kurds and Shiites. Powell said Saddam was looking for yellow cake to make a nuke possibly and although that weasel backtracked and blamed conservatives, Iraq was looking for that stuff.
Saved me having to reply! Thank you. Much was shipped to Syria, but the problem was that it was presented that Iraq had world war inducing WMD when in fact he did not have that level of capability.
The gas got transported by Russia to Syria where it was used to poison Assad’s political rivals.
That said, we should have simply hung Saddam and his sons, then left Mesopotamia to its unenviable fate of self-destruction.
I know resettled Christian Iraqis.
Why should “we” have simply hung Saddam and his sons?
On what authority do you make such a statement?
George W Bush is a back stabbing crook.
Talk about self destruction…..start looking at the culture of today’s America.
The Bush Experience was still overkill.
Before UNSCOM was booted out of the country because Saddam saw the Oil for Food scam and how weak and/or crooked Billy Clinton was, they had uncovered quite a bit of munitions containing both gas and bio agents.
What they could not find and were still looking for were the tons of agents they had paperwork showing was brought into the country, but never found.
look at the Iraqi earthquake support convoy in a response sent to Syria in 2003 a mere 2 weeks before our invasion…reliable sources say the WMDs on hand were shipped out then in THIS convoy…W was a piece of crap and has gotten worse with age but even the NYT admitted they had found WMDs in Iraq
Only Sundance could cover-up an 800lb gorilla with three words – BONDO and SPRAY PAINT.
Brilliant!!
Agree, nobody does it better than Sundance/
he presents the facts with total clarity -BEST.
Going out on a limb and sayin, “It ain’t over the
FAT lady sings” – which could be happening now.
I’m truly optimistic and as PDJT has often stated;
COMPLICATED BUSINESS FOLKS! Remember we
are unraveling, in the very least, 60/70 years of
massive, pervasive, meticulous, demonic infiltration
into every single entity in our country – gird your loins.
HANG ON – and NEVER, EVER GIVE UP.
I am with you Marygrace.
Me, too.
Oh, HECK, NO! This is a spiritual war, good vs evil. We are reaping what was sown. We put our faith in men, trusted them. So, of course, evil men swarmed into “government”.
Yes, I think everyone. at least those at CTH,
realize we are in a spiritual war/good vs evil.
Like I said – massive “demonic” infiltration…
Demonic definition = pertaining to demons
or EVIL SPIRITS.
President Trump specifically focused
Executive Orders on “Crimes against
Humanity”. It will be difficult for anyone
to wrap their mind around the level of
evil, the men you refer to above we voted
into “government”, were/are capable of
committing. A word beyond “evil” would
be needed to describe the atrocities.
I will never ever give up.
the very idea that any of these people are allowed to free ride is so incredibly dangerous !
there are just a few ways that a nation falls…but surely the simplest way, is that it no longer holds criminals to account.
we will not allow this betrayal of truth to be buried.
these people deserve death penalties.
this was a coup.
people forget this.
this was a small group of people abusing the most trusted powers of government to destroy a duly elected President of the United States.
This was a small group who committed the MOST CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY THAT HAS NO EQUAL IN US HISTORY.
Death, quick and efficient, is too good for these criminals.
When you truly understand the impact upon this nation and our laws these acts of treason created…there is only one certain justice that can be applied.
death.
God Bless America
Well stated. I agree
1000% with every word.
Behavior so horrific
deserves nothing less/
without it there would
be no deterrence.
Yup, to expect what we all know is a completely corrupted system, to “Self-correct”,…to expect a system which has institutionalised “investigate to exhonerate” to finally hold someone accountable, is beyond hope-porn, it is incredibly, stupidly insane.
Durham is not going to “save our Republic”, or us, any more than Huber did.
NO ONE is going to come in and save us, Not Trump, not the military, not the courts,…and NOT any institution, nor any aspect of “the system”.
It will come down to WE, the People, in Unity, rejecting by refusal to comply, the Conmunists dictates.
NOT through force of arms, they are fully prepared for that, and will use it to justify greatly expanding their power.
And not through succession, either.
ONLY when the American people have collectively experienced enough abuse, deprivation, horror and suffering that all divisions fall away, and WE UNITE, and as ONE people, say with actions and words “ENOUGH! We will NOT comply, so your going to have to KILL us all!” will the Conmunists be ejected from their positions of power.
Sundance has said it, many times; No government can govern, without the consent of the governed.
Unfortunately, WE are going to have to experience a lot more of Bidenites bs, before the useful idiots accept the truth, before all are disabused of their illusions, and the Conmunists achieve their goal, of equity through equal deprivation.
The only good news is; there is no “time limit”, no “we must act NOW, or its too late!”
Agreed
Yep, agreed, it’s on us. No politician is going to come to our defense. They’re all either compromised by bribes or they don’t want friends or family executed or most likely both. Can’t compete with utter lawlessness. Ask yourself how many people do you know that died under suspicious circumstances. Maybe 1 or more likely none. Can the elites say the same?
Why should we let them kill us all? We have been given the authority, the DUTY, by the Bill of Rights to throw off a treasonous government. They don’t have enough people (military, national guard, whatever) to come against a million Patriots. They are NOT prepared for that – there are more of us than them. We just need to find the fortitude to do what needs to be done to save our country.
SWC is going into the implications. FTR, former journalist Adam Housely said Durham’s work was going to be “huge”.
shipwreckedcrew.substack.com
@shipwreckedcrew
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“Only minor changes to the text will be necessary to change it to a conspiracy indictment. You replace all the Anonymous References (“Tech Executive 1”) with the names of the Co-Conspirators, and make Count One “Conspiracy”. The part of the indictment alleging overt acts…”
Shipwrecked crew was one of the hopium characters with Barr and countless others. He actually thinks the FBI is full of good people and that it will be cleaned out. I believe he actually got fired from Redstate because he was wrong on so many occasions.
Yep!
I’ve also seen him take pot shots at other conservatives, so I don’t trust them.
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Conspiracy to do… what?
Conspiracy requires that the government prove beyond reasonable doubt:
(1) that there was an agreement between at least two parties,
(2) to achieve an illegal goal…
(3) that the parties in agreement have knowledge of, as well as knowledge of the overarching conspiracy, and
(4) that at least one of the parties (but usually anyone to be convicted because of the difficulty of proving 1, 2 and 3 without documentary evidence) commits an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.
If the conspiracy was to manufacture and provide false information to the FBI, it ends there, and everything and every uncharged everyone leading up to it happened beyond the Statute of Limitations.
It’s important to remember that Sundance had his brush with the Durham people and probably has a clearer sense of what their motives are.
I still want to know who’s pulling the strings of the FIB and CAI? Really. Unless that threat is eliminated, this corruption will just escalate, ad infinitum.
The threat is eliminated by shutting down and firing all of the employees of the two departments and denying any retirement benefits or ability to ever work again as a federal employee either directly or indirectly.
They have to be 100% eliminated …….. and those responsible for breaking laws tried, convicted and sentenced.
Americans deserve nothing less for the damage these two groups did to our Constitutional Republic.
Absolutely
jail.
Firing squad.
I’m inclined to agree with Sundance here, but just by indiciting Sussman and highlighting the fraudulent origins of the Russia Alfa Bank narrative, hasn’t he already drawn in question what the purpose of the Mueller SC was, and why they didn’t find the same information?
Excellent point!
I guess we’ll just have to hold out hope for a Carrington Event.
yup
please Somebody ‘splain that to me…
Carrington Event was a massive geomagnetic storm in the 1800’s caused by a solar flare. If it happened today it would cause severe damage to electrical grid, cell phones etc …
I don’t know if the term is used in a political context of some sort.
Potential Stone Age level event, not to be lightly wished, but it would indeed be a hell of a reset.
dd_sc Thank you! I’ve never heard of it before.
My money says Durham has only just begun.
“Bill Barr was the Bondo.
John Durham is the spray paint.”
Another great analogy that PERFECTLY describes what we’re witnessing.
Great imagery.
Durham equals:
Uh oh, better get Maaco…
Now I know why Sundance was so measured when he found Durham’s pit bull, and the guy’s first question to Sundance was to ask how he was found. I can tantilizingly look at the possible counts to indictments but when I read Sussman’s my first reaction after reading all 27 pages was, “Maybe there’s a pony in here, but why do I get the feeling that the crap in front of my eyes was trucked in for effect?”
Good memory.
Durham has already selected the color of his paint – white as in whitewash.
” will the Durham probe finally outline all the evidence to prove all the years of deception and fraud perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government?”
That’s a tall order, I don’t think anybody expects that.
And it wouldn’t end with Muller it would go to Susan Rice saying o said do it by the book. Moreover by the time this plays out America will be lost as we know it. ,
We need to focus on overwhelming the police when they do us like Australian, overwhelm them immediately and early like the pitch fork folk laying in ambush
It’s definitely all by the book.
#0bamagate
IIRC, the indictment says that Sussman’s lies led the FBI to believe a crime may have occurred. IOW, the indictment is saying there is no wrongdoing at the FBI because that darn lawyer lied to them.
The point of Mueller, and now Durham, is to protect the FBI and DOJ from scrutiny. They’ll identify some high ranking fall guys (not Hillary, of course) and claim the Russia investigation was properly founded and executed, and they were merely chasing down all the lies being spread by so-and-so in the media. They might go so far as to say the FBI and DOJ had “sympathetic ears” (Strzok, Page, Comey, etc). But all the proper procedures were followed. And, those at the FBI who showed questionable judgement have already been punished enough.
“The point of Mueller, and now Durham, is to protect the FBI and DOJ from scrutiny.”
Let’s not forget the role played by Bill Barr toward that same end.
All their power and prestige requires that the guilty walk and the gravy train keeps running.
Look no further than the proven sellout as*hat that appointed him. If Durham was not going to follow script and and do a damage control to contain while negating future scrutiny we would all know it. Why well the media and everyone would be building the case of how Durham was a white supremist paid by russia blah blah blah smear slander repeat rince etc…
The reason we keep getting our as* handed to US is because what we have for leadership is conspiring with the otherside. It is what drew me to Trump he was a outsider with common sense ideas and a history of being results oriented i.e. business man. Sadly he tried to work within the system and the system is a stacked deck.
We need to push a full Federal Audit of all institutions programs etc… every dollar except maybe the mil black budget. Track every vote for every program and donations resulting from contracting or contracts awarded. Best case it will round up most of the corrupt worst case it will hamper their financing now and in the future. They have been getting away with this stuff for so long they have naturally become sloppy and greedy (human nature).
I am not that old and regularly remember stories popping up about politicks pushing projects to friendly companies and lately now its outright family members that are nothing but hired BS X at said companies, sloppy blatant with easy trackable paper trails.
If we ever get the whip hand again we need full attack no mercy across the isles assault. Use no one from the “system” hire only from the private sector and if not viable by the rules fire down to workable people. Pink slips should rain anyway considering the promotion system the fed is literally designed to get the easiest worst. Even the staunchest libtards will be pissed if we can show do little for the cause but politicks get huge skim pushing them. Its all a hustle played by one group of elitist against US the middle class and working class.
Is there anyone left anywhere who is an honest broker in this world? Scum the lot of them.
I nominate the unlikely billionaire real estate magnate from New York, who ,when he became President ,was investigated with a scrutiny Nurse Ratched would have been in impressed by, and came out clean. That is our fearless leader, President Donald Trump. An honest broker and nobody’s fool.
Amen to that lindak!
It’s all swamp and corruption. The swamp will never prosecute itself.
They are a self-appointed aristocracy, completely without any respect or regard for the common people they consider themselves so far above, who have partnered with multinationals who buy their power over us.
https://www.independent.org/publications/article.asp?id=4725
I will just observe that there is the possibility that the DOJ and FBI are seeking to insulate themselves from culpability by blaming Sussman, the DNC, Crowdstrike, Elias, etc. I take it as given that the CIA will protect itself by covering any and every piece of evidence that connects it to these partisan efforts, as top secret, classified, national security not available for court proceedings.
But that leaves the corrupt Clinton mob vulnerable. They are aging. HRC missed her chance to follow Obama. Their power and popularity have waned, and they conflict with that of the Obama-Communist mob, perhaps also the NWO mob who will want to remain above any disclosed corruption emanating from the Clintons. Sussman and the other targetos suggested by Durham may just be sacrificial lambs, the necessary house-cleaning as the NWO – CCP move forward with their own, non-Clinton Great Reset.
I wouldn’t put it past the CCP to want, and to help engineer, a global discrediting of US Big Tech, to be supplanted by China’s own.
From the CCP and NWO perspective, the dissolution of American Hegemony as Biden’s incompetence metastasizes on top of open warfare among different branches of the DC swamp, can help usher in a new currency for international settlements, from which the US is excluded or a mere also ran.
From the work of DARPA and NIH in helping the CCP bio-engineer SARS2Cov, and launch it on the world, while the NWO Gates WHO Crowd put on their pandemic war game, and while NIH partnered with Moderna on Covid-19 vaccine technology, it appears that the most dangerous Deep State is international in nature and has control of key agencies within HHS, DOD and likely the IC. A similar statement can be made about election interference – the tools developed by our IC for manipulating foreign countries seems to have been used against our own, with key agencies providing cover: “most secure election in history.”
I would also note that Durham’s biggest “bust” had to do with the Whitey Bulgar deal, and both Mueller and Steve Weissman skated out of that scandal without permanent damage, despite being the main guys, as far as one can tell from the outside.
“But that leaves the corrupt Clinton mob vulnerable.”
This where the Trotsky script has Bill and Hillary getting an ice pick to the head on their Mexico vacation.
Interesting, while I’m doubtful this is going anywhere, I was wondering if this is an interparty attempt to take out the Clintons and their henchman… Hillary destroyed quite a few people, maybe it’s payback time…
I’m with you, and since it won’t happen, what is the objective of the indictment. They could have just strung it out longer and let it wither to nothing.
Distraction, endless exhausting distraction.
Durham’s livin’ large! Endless budget, gathering mucho blackmail material. Growing his
CIACYA retirement fund!No doubt, if one goes by the 2020 landscape, the highly accurate “bondo, spay paint” analogue would most likely play out in the dc swamp.
However, there is one unknown in the 2021 landscape that could drastically change the outcome.
That would be the President Trump Card.
Most MAGAs would agree that after President Trump has been rightfully reseated, he has earned the right to preside over the punishment phrase of the coup plotter’s road to justice.
I enjoyed reading Sperry’s article today, but to be clear…. This is going nowhere… We need to let it go and focus on 22+24… No distractions. Our way to strike back is through reform of ALL Intelligence Agencies and the FBI when we retake power… Everyone on this site is smart, everyone on this site is well informed… So, we all know NO Democrat or left wing operative EVER pays for their crimes or corruption… It is integral to the Obama/Clinton Cartel, that’s why they are so brazen. A corollary to this is their media operatives WON’T cover the corruption therefore they are safe from full exposure… Lastly, if they do step down, their lives will be made comfortable with a Brookings sinecure or a Soros/Zuckerberg pension plan… On top of all that Garland and the Lawfare infected Judiciary won’t allow ANY of this to reach fruition. It’s over, it will never get there and we can THANK our own people for perpetrating this corruption. Barr knew all this stuff years ago and used all his power to stall it out of existence. Durham is trying to delegitimize Barr’s corruption and fool us again…
RINO point of view
We forgive nothing.
Your post is a cold slap to the face of anyone with the illusion that the Sussmann indictment is an important event.
Not unlike the various I.G. reports that Horowitz offered that illustrated the surface of many crimes. The surface explanation led to the permanent file case of accelerated dust collection in the DoJ.
I remember when Sundance traveled to DC in August/September 2020 and reported on his enlightening the lead investigator, Alderman? if I remember his name correctly. Nothing. Had they really wanted to uncover the truth and do something about it, they would have
a) verified and validated the data provided by Sundance
b) it wouldn’t have taken them months to do it, and they could have started tearing down the silo’s right then and there – Nothing
c) I’ll bet Durham could have blown the entire thing open BEFORE the 2020 election – Nothing
Know what I expect from the DOJ/FBI? Nothing
“c) I’ll bet Durham could have blown the entire thing open BEFORE the 2020 election ”
A great man, Sundance, had the essential pieces figured out before the 2020 election. I think you can safely assume Durham could have although there are a couple things that Sundance could have schooled Durham in.
Not doing the right thing for the Country has had an enormous cost.
AND until the big enchilada of free and fair elections can be established the USA will remain in a continuous cycle of wash, rinse and repeat.
I still hold out the hope that the Biden administration sees this as a vehicle to purge the Clinton people.
National Security Advisor Jake “The Snake” Sullivan is a Clinton people.
“SPYGATE” timelines all start subsequent to Trump announcing his 2016 candidacy. All theories and stories that stem from this start point only cover CI re-actions to activities/corruption originating prior to that point in time. Broaden the lens…explain why Trump decided to run in the first place.
The real question is: Is Durham, as either an investigator or cover-up’er, only dealing with the things from this point forward?
If yes, who cares? He’ll either cover up or prosecute these post-crime matters.
If no, then, it’s a whole new ballgame bc it brings the real crime into view…at which time the arguments will ensue about whether justice or a coverup will prevail.
Trump decided to run for a reason(s). We can all speculate on what those reasons might have been, but can’t dismiss the events prior to June 16, 2015 when considering what Durham is doing.
Oh dear…
That’s it
Oh dear…
Sadly, yep.
I agree on “NO”.
Expectations low.
Very low.
Two questions raised by Sundance.
1. “will the Durham probe finally outline *all the evidence* to prove *all the years of deception and fraud* perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government?
Answer. No. You ask the possible. If sources are correct – Adam Housely, Paul Sperry – we may see the biggest government and Swamp attempted takedown ever attempted. Whether that is one or three dozen, we’ll see.
Ironically, it looks like a medium-sized Big Ugly.
Allegedly cooperating …
– Jim Baker
– Paul Priestap
– William Barnett
– Kevin Clinesmith
2. Sundance asked: “how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it”?
– Mueller is gone
– so is DA General Rod Rosenstein.
Durham will prove what he can prove. Mueller may have ‘hidden’ much, but apparently there’s still lots to pursue.
“Durham” is what I call a tease, mock and control operation.
Tease the Deplorables with exciting possibilities of justice.
Mock the Deplorables with yeah “Russia, Russia” was all a hoax but you can’t do a damn thing about it.
Make sure the Deplorables know who is in total control.
Biden will pardon Sussmann when the time is right. Nixon should have pardoned the Watergate burglars on his way out the door. After all, they failed where Obama was successful.
Obama will never ever be brought to Justice in this life. As long as this involves St Barry, their will be no accountability.
We got “Earl Scheibed”, only the cost was way higher.
Yes we did. You put it well. The paint job is not near as pretty though.
More than $39.99??
Guess that I am showing my age.??
“My short and painful answer is, NO.”
That’s all I need to know. I also know we both hope you are wrong. Here’s to Hope!!!! Sometimes it’s all you got. Dimmer the expectations friends. Justice might come one day but it’s not going to be in traditional format. If it does it will be in an unconventional manner I assume.
its getting close to vigilante justice being the only chance
I’m torn and confused. Is it Bill Bondo or Bondo Barr now?
If that don’t work Chrissy Wray has stucco.
I agree with Sundance. Durham is only allowed to go forward because he’s going to go after former officials who are political operatives. Not current officials or those that were serving at the time of this entire fiasco.
Durham like Barr is going to protect the institutions …and the institutions can never be wrong. But they can be misled. Doing their faithful duties having been lied to by those nefarious political operatives on the outside.
The outline for the play is in the indictment. Sussman lied to the FBI. He misled them. He was a political operative. Other political operatives may get indicted. But don’t expect to see anybody on the government side to have any sunlight on their raggedy posteriors.
Per Sundance, “…will the Durham probe finally outline all the evidence to prove all the years of deception and fraud perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government? My short and painful answer is, NO”
I completely agree for what little that’s worth.
When Durham indicted Sussmann at the last minute, my “suspicious cat” eyes looked straight up to my eyebrows and then did a little roll.
I suspected this was just throwing a fingerling into the fire while letting the big fish get away.
Love you Sundance truly but not quite there yet. Some things once they start are unstoppable and unpredictable. That is where we are. Cracks are appearing all through the edifice. The chasm between truth and lies has rarely been so evident, and many more are awake. Chaos also works in our favor. We’ll need to give it a shove for sure. Let’s have faith people and don’t forget you have a role to play when the time comes.
Agree. Durham doesn’t have say anything. We don’t get saved because one of the institutions saves us. We get saved (if at all) by more and more people seeing that the institutions are corrupt.
That’s why Jen Psaki does us a favor being on TV every day. So does that ghoul Fauci. So does that demented usurper Biden. So does Milley etc.
You might say the same is true of the AZ election audit. It’s a potential win/win for us. We win if it’s legit, and we win if it’s obvious they’re lying and somehow manage to suppress it.
We’re winning everyday lately because they can’t seem to hide a thing any more.
Our aim should be to accelerate the red-pilling process. To hell with DC and the institutions. They don’t work for us. Ignore them.
You ask the question, If Durham was going to reveal what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it? The answer has to be everything must be exposed. Much of it already has.
Sussman pleads down, keeps his law license and will be available to work on the next committee to smear the Trump re-election.
“If Durham was going to reveal what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?”Perhaps he will turn out to be the last person in DC willing to do the RIGHT thing? Durham’s job description is NOT to defend Mueller’s existence..nor should he defend Mueller..Right is right, wrong is wrong..
JUST IN – Pelosi’s “Jan. 6 committee” issues its first subpoenas for Stephen Bannon, Mark Meadows, Daniel Scavino, Kashyap Patel.
@disclosetv
and now this !
Durham is going to pull his Hunter out and piss in Americas face.
“Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?Bill Barr was the Bondo.John Durham is the spray paint.”
Elegant metaphors.
Good to read at the end of day.
God was removed from the Public Schools in 1962….the “chickens have come home to roost”
Sundance is the Master!
Spray Paint!
That’s gonna stick.
Sundance likely would comprehend the value of the article I’ll try providing below.
I value it for the revelations regarding the nature of this beast we’re up against.
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/09/22/will-a-renewed-operation-cyclone-threaten-afghanistans-new-silk-road-future/
Any publication promoting the view that official persecution of the Uighurs is a “myth” is seriously Chi shilling.
All this said, is there a “conspiracy” of white-hats anywhere out there that is attempting to take any kind of stand? Probably not healthy for them for it to be discussed in the open, but I sure hope some sort of organized TRUE opposition is mounting a counter-offensive to this world-wide evil that we find ourselves amidst.