December 10th – 2020 Presidential Politics – Trump Administration Day #1421

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ReglarMerican
ReglarMerican
December 10, 2020 9:53 pm

WhiteBoard
WhiteBoard
December 10, 2020 10:05 pm
Reply to  ReglarMerican

in the fight!

TL Howard
TL Howard
December 10, 2020 10:15 pm
Reply to  ReglarMerican

Safest place in the world to be a criminal: a member of the bureaucracy.

Joemama
Joemama
December 11, 2020 12:41 am
Reply to  TL Howard

Wow, few will see your post, but in my opinion, you just made a statement that is just as worthy of quotation as that of many famous people such as Winston Churchill.

Bubby
Bubby
December 10, 2020 11:24 pm
Reply to  ReglarMerican

The DOJ/FBI where investigations of Democrat malfeasance and criminality go to die!

Mad Mike
Mad Mike
December 11, 2020 2:01 am
Reply to  ReglarMerican

In other news… Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

mr.piddles
mr.piddles
December 11, 2020 2:15 am
Reply to  Mad Mike

Classic.

The Gipper Lives
December 10, 2020 9:54 pm

 Why China? And Why Now? I think I cracked the Code.
I’ve been asking myself why the Democrats, the Professional Liar Media, Big Tech and Chris Wray’s FBI (but I repeat myself) who wouldn’t allow any discussion of Hunter Biden’s Chinese Cash Take-Out a month ago are now focusing on it non-stop.
The FBI has been investigating Hunter since 2018. They could have done this in 2018. Or 2019. Or 2020 before November. They even sent out 50 Intelligence Professionals to call it Russian Dizinformation. 
But they waited ’til after the election–yet before Inauguration–to push this China story. It’s very curious.
To be clear, I believe President Trump will be inaugurated on Jan. 20th. But they don’t.
Here’s another question: who were the Obamas candidates?
A: That would be Kamala Harris and Corey Booker. They were supposed to pushed into the spotlight by their collusion with Jussie Smollet for an Anti-Lynching bill. But that fell apart like Smollet’s fairy tale in Chicago’s frigid night air.
I think Obama is using Hunter as a means to retire Parkinson’s Joe, elevate Kamala Harris and have her pick Corey Booker as veep.
After all, even Democrats know Joe will crack under pressure. Already, he slips up and says true things, much to everyone’s shock and dismay. Like the other day when he said: “But, and, like I told Barack, if I read something where there’s a fundamental disagreement we have based on a moral principle, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll developed some disease and say I have to resign.”
Like the moral principle of, say, taking payoffs from China? No, clearly old Joe can’t be allowed anywhere near power.
I think the FBI threw in Swallwell’s five-year-old Fang-Wang-Bang story just to chum the “China! China! China!”-waters.
When we ask “Cui bono?”–Who benefits?–the answer comes up the Obamas, who would get their favorite candidates installed without their fingerprints at the crime scene. 
Except, of course, for President-Elect Donald J. Trump.

Icthematrix
Icthematrix
December 10, 2020 10:01 pm

Yes Harris was Obama’s favored, but he knew she wouldn’t make it. Didn’t need her to.
Ultimately they played the primary charades, until it was time to anoint Biden. All acquiesced except Bernie. Bernie plays his part, and is well compensated.
They knew. They knew Trump couldn’t be beaten. But they knew the fix was in.
Covid, Antifa/BLM, riots, mail in balloting, all planned to get Biden elected, as the Trojan Horse.

Eric
Eric
December 10, 2020 10:07 pm

Yes – it’s always been the Obama wing. Nobody liked Kamala, but it was Obama pushing her. The Clinton wing will be in line for some type of payoff, a large part of which is revenge on Trump for winning the election. Obama has always had leverage on Joe, which is why it had to be him. Then they would move him out of the way. Obama embeds still in government. Obama wants his own third term – there’s as much chance he’ll position himself or Michelle as VP under Kamala. Then they’ll remove her too.

cow wow
cow wow
December 11, 2020 12:49 pm
Reply to  Eric

I think that’s why-the Clinton wing-is trying to move the total crook Terry McCaulifg back into the Va governorship

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 10, 2020 10:09 pm

Its amazing how its become normal for the FBI to be “investigating” major, national security level crimes for years and years. I have this image of Chris Wray in some cave meditating , waiting for enlightenment …Ommmmmmmmmmmm .
Its frankly ridiculous. With 100s of professionals and huge access to information and resources this stuff needs to happen in weeks.

TL Howard
TL Howard
December 10, 2020 10:21 pm

Two people who earned no electors in the primaries, two people not liked by their own party.

GB Bari
GB Bari
December 10, 2020 11:12 pm

I disagree. Obozo was never smart enough to lead the communist takeover of America. He was a merely politically correct candidate and president who qualified because of his race and Marxist training from early on.

But Ozero was never intelligent enough to concoct a large, multidimensional plan and the tactics to implement said plan over time given all the variables. But he was a great face for the Party Faithful.

No, there are long-established (but low public profile) powers who are directing this Plan through Ozero and other channels. It is a small team of elite Marxists directing the DemoCommunists in DC and across the country. It is funded by the globalist banks and multinational corporation leaders including those corporate media heads.

Globalist RINOs are also participating but from arms length. They only want the financial gains from globalization but they’re stupidly not supporting Trump and I really don’t think they understand their ultimate fate when DemoCommunists take over.

DoneFixen
December 11, 2020 12:19 am
Reply to  GB Bari

They want their seat at the big shiny globalist table but don’t realize they are the low hanging fruit that will be delegated to the kiddy table with a mandated mask if they’re lucky. No one trusts a sell out.

Julian
December 10, 2020 11:16 pm

The SOLUTION to this is…
(If it is not President Trump – which it obviously should be).
President Joe Biden.
Vice-President Mike Pence.

Check Mate and see ya later Kamala.
It virtually guarantees Republican landslides in 2022 & 2024 to have Biden forced to remain as President because he has a Republican Vice-President!
Some might even say it is a perfect “Compromise” – as it also allows Trump to go out campaigning around the country and remove the RINOs 1-by-1 without being encumbered by the Presidency.
It also retains Republican control of the Senate regardless of the results in the Georgia run-off…
https://thomasaandersonsmith.medium.com/how-republicans-can-retain-power-and-win-the-2020-elections-even-if-president-trumps-legal-c3be74917b76

Deb
Deb
December 10, 2020 11:51 pm
Reply to  Julian

This is a slimy scheme from the Rhinos, since they know we know PDJT won.

There is no 2022 if we don’t stop the steal. If the landslide in 2020 was wiped out, why would they allow another one?

Whoseyore
Whoseyore
December 11, 2020 12:03 am
Reply to  Julian

Pence IS a RINO!

VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms
December 10, 2020 9:56 pm

what I just emailed to my WI State Senator and Assembly Representative:
Dear Sirs,
As our Senator for Wisconsin, Ron Johnson makes clear –
“I’ve scheduled a hearing for next Wednesday when we’re going to examine the irregularities of the 2020 election. Some of these irregularities are being examined by courts and some have been dealt with. … This is a terrible state of affairs where you have a great percentage of the American public that don’t view this election as legitimate because Democrats pushed the envelope. They did everything they could to make this a suspicious result.”
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/media/majority-media/johnson-discusses-election-integrity-hunter-biden-during-hannity-interview
– we are taking part in the most important civics lesson of our lives.
We have all branches of the federal Government, the States, and We the People now involved in perhaps the most powerful civics lessons of our republic’s existence since the Civil War.
Pray, watch and pay close attention as our Constitution takes its rightful place in the debates over the Laws of our land.
What keeps the States United is the Constitution.
If the covenant of the Constitution is broken, if it is not enforced by the courts, especially the Supreme Court, there is nothing left to bind the states.
Lawlessness cannot stand.
I will be following the Hearing tomorrow where bright sunlight shines on our States Electoral process for the Nation, even the world, to examine up close.
While I personally believe the Recount process in Dane County was accurate and transparent, there was and is much more beyond the scope of what I took part in.
I hope these hearings will bring out some of the challenges of Republicans, as well as foster ideas to improve the integrity of remaining steps in this Presidential Electoral Process, as well as future elections.
I cannot guess future court rulings and I am not expecting any new significant information from this hearing. I realize the situations in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia, are especially troubling and it appears there are other concerns in Nevada and Arizona as well.
So I would like to ask both of you to consider your next options.
How do you as Legislators and we the Citizens, proceed in the face of problems that HAVE been clearly demonstrated in our State? The refusal to clean the voter rosters, even in the face of court orders? What about the possible ballot harvesting by Democracy in the Park? What about the apparent advice to municipal clerks to disregard policies about the Indefinitely Confined status? The lack of Absentee Ballot Applications?
If, and yes it’s a huge if, the Election of November is shown to be compromised to the point where any attempts to repair the vote totals would switch the winner from Joe Biden to Donald Trump, would you support this measure? Even in the face of what is sure to be enormous media outrage?
That’s all I have for now, we’ll see what tomorrow brings. Stay Safe and Godspeed.

LOL
LOL
December 10, 2020 9:56 pm

Zero hedge doesn’t seem to have any comments anymore.
Ruh roh.

another face in the crowd
another face in the crowd
December 10, 2020 10:03 pm
Reply to  LOL

think they are back up now, try refreshing and see.

LOL
LOL
December 10, 2020 10:35 pm

Yes, back up; new format.

TheBigHarry
TheBigHarry
December 10, 2020 11:51 pm
Reply to  LOL

Also introduced a new ZeroHedge Premium subscription service for $1.00/day which will be free of Google interference.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/introducing-zerohedge-premium

Bogeyfree
Bogeyfree
December 10, 2020 9:57 pm

With PT”s new EO tonight changing the Succession Order of the DOD, I thought I would point out the key changes for all to see.
Old DOD Succession Order:
 1) Deputy Secretary of Defense;
(2) Secretary of the Army;
(3) Secretary of the Navy;
(4) Secretary of the Air Force;
(5) Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics;
(6) Under Secretary of Defense for Policy;
(7) Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller);
(8) Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness;
(9) Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence;
(10) Deputy Chief Management Officer, Department of Defense;
(11) Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics;
(12) Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Policy;
(13) Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller);
(14) Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness;
(15) Principal Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence;
(16) Director of Defense Research and Engineering;
(17) General Counsel of the Department of Defense, the Assistant Secretaries of Defense, the Assistant to the Secretary of Defense for Nuclear and Chemical and Biological Defense Programs, the Director of Operational Test and Evaluation, the Director of Operational Energy Plans and Programs, and the Director of Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation;
(18) Under Secretaries of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force; and
(19) Assistant Secretaries of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force, and General Counsels of the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force.

New DOD Succession Order:

(I) Deputy Secretary of Defense;
(ii) Secretaries of the Military Departments;
(iii) Under Secretary of Defense for Policy;
(iv) Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security;
(v) Chief Management Officer of the Department of Defense;
(vi) Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment;
(vii) Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering;
(viii) Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller);
(ix) Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness;
(x) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Policy;
(xi) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security;
(xii) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment;
(xiii) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering;
(xiv) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense (Comptroller);
(xv) Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness;
(xvi) General Counsel of the Department of Defense, Assistant Secretaries of Defense, Director of Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation, Director of Operational Test and Evaluation, and Chief Information Officer of the Department of Defense;
(xvii) Under Secretaries of the Military Departments; and
(xviii) Assistant Secretaries of the Military Departments and General Counsels of the Military Departments.

it appears the big change is the old line had the Secretary of the Army as second in line and under the new line it is a Team of the 3 Secretaries of the major branches who rule.

So IMO PT may not have full confidence in whoever the Sec of the Army is and he wants a team of 3 Secretaries to make the decisions.

The timing of this sure seems suspicious IMO.

Sonia
Sonia
December 10, 2020 10:32 pm
Reply to  Bogeyfree

Note DoD Directive 5135.03 also issued today.

This establishes the responsibilities, functions, relationships, and authorities of the Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment (number 9 on the succession list).

Just before he left office, Obama issued a new DOJ executive orders – January 13, 2017, providing order of succession at the Justice Department to all Obama appointees. The following month, President Trump quietly changed this, but did not alter the top of the succession order.

Hokkoda
Hokkoda
December 10, 2020 10:49 pm
Reply to  Bogeyfree

Only if you can demonstrate that the Army Secretary date of appointment is lower on the totem poll: “Precedence among officers designated within the same paragraph of subsection (a) shall be determined by the order in which they have been appointed to such office. Where officers designated within the same paragraph of subsection (a) have the same appointment date, precedence shall be determined by the order in which they have taken the oath to serve in that office.”

Most likely, the change in the ordering is flowing from organizational changes coming in the NDAA that the House just passed (veto proof majority, Trump has said he would veto but they will override). If you do a little digging, you’ll find that the Order of Precedence derived from NDAA’s past correlates to the OLD Order of Succession (with AT&L at the top just beneath the service secretaries):
https://execsec.defense.gov/Portals/34/Documents/Revised%20DoD%20Order%20of%20Precedence-10Nov14.pdf
(Note that in this Order of Precedence, CJCS appears, but being military the CJCS would not be listed in the civilian line of succession.)
I’d bet $20 that everyone is getting excited over an org chart change resulting from the NDAA.

Robert Smith
Robert Smith
December 10, 2020 11:01 pm
Reply to  Bogeyfree

Nice.
If this was a Banana Republic, which we are acting like, the military has to be purged of marxist DeepState O’bamites.

USA loves Melania
USA loves Melania
December 10, 2020 9:58 pm

Good thread from Brian the Great

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 10, 2020 10:11 pm

Hello Darkness my old friend !!!

USA loves Melania
USA loves Melania
December 10, 2020 10:13 pm

Haha, glad you made it to the end!

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 10, 2020 10:27 pm

I love poetic justice. This Biden is a miserable, nasty piece of goods.

Boilingmud
Boilingmud
December 10, 2020 11:31 pm

You’re way to polite.

Ocelot
Ocelot
December 10, 2020 10:01 pm

Canadian Army responds to Chi Com troop controversy

Ocelot
Ocelot
December 10, 2020 10:01 pm
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Ocelot
Ocelot
December 10, 2020 10:02 pm
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Ocelot
Ocelot
December 10, 2020 10:03 pm
Reply to  Ocelot
Ocelot
Ocelot
December 10, 2020 10:10 pm
Reply to  Ocelot

Cjzak
Cjzak
December 10, 2020 10:34 pm
Reply to  Ocelot

China has cold climes and mountains. Why do they have to cold weather train in Canada? This whole deal smells very suspicious as to motive. Trudeau getting a big payoff or is it a manifestation of TDS where anyone out to get PDJT is his friend? Or both?

WES
WES
December 10, 2020 11:07 pm
Reply to  Cjzak

China owns Sparkle Socks.

CNN_sucks
CNN_sucks
December 10, 2020 11:43 pm
Reply to  Cjzak

Reconnaissance and surveillance for sneak attack

GB Bari
GB Bari
December 11, 2020 12:27 am
Reply to  Cjzak

Exactly. There’s NOTHING about this that appears “legitimate”.
President Trump should impose severe sanctions against Canada until those CCP agents are out of North America.

USA loves Melania
USA loves Melania
December 10, 2020 10:02 pm

So much truth!

The Gipper Lives
December 10, 2020 10:07 pm

80 million, Mr. President-Elect.

USAFirst!
USAFirst!
December 10, 2020 11:26 pm

Because you have two losers running the FBI and DOJ Mr. President.
If you fired them along time ago your tweet would have been irrelevant.

Whoseyore
Whoseyore
December 11, 2020 12:11 am
Reply to  USAFirst!

Or didn’t listen to the person(s) who advised you to choose them. Hopefully he also gets rid of the people passing out bad advice. Pence perhaps?

Robert Smith
Robert Smith
December 10, 2020 11:57 pm

😉

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
December 10, 2020 10:03 pm

Jeb! living up to his true colors:



The Gipper Lives
December 10, 2020 10:09 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

If Jeb believed that it was DOA, he wouldn’t be worried about it, would he?

TL Howard
TL Howard
December 10, 2020 10:26 pm

That’s the second time he’s tweeted about this. Strange.

TheWanderingStar
December 10, 2020 11:29 pm

He would just have waited so he could say, “Told you so.” Jeb is the lamest of the Bushes.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:08 am

Thats challenging title to aspire to, or achieve. Starting to think Papa was the first manchurian candidate, to make it into the Oval, and his offspring are just chips off the ole block.

New World Order, thousand points of light, you commie bastard!

USA loves Melania
USA loves Melania
December 10, 2020 10:30 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

Mr. Low Energy thinks election fraud is an “act of love”.
Jeb is a mess.

A Moderate Man
A Moderate Man
December 10, 2020 10:59 pm

Indeed, politicians have the worst character of any profession. They are all just shocking.

Texsun
Texsun
December 10, 2020 10:34 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

Why is “low energy “ so worried about these developments? If it’s going to be killed on arrival, why is he tweeting so much?
Doth protest too much!

Eric
Eric
December 10, 2020 10:36 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

The most disgusting thing about Jeb!? thus far is not simply that he’s low energy and the penultimate RINO. I want to vomit when I think about the 2016 primary and him talking about when he was born, turning around and looking up at his mother in admiration. Bar’ Bush was about 92 at the time he was telling that story, it was a disgusting mental image.
Old Jeb must have a head injury or something if he thought that story was in any way relatable or something other than gross and disgusting.

Buckeye
Buckeye
December 10, 2020 11:06 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

And when was the last time Frank Luntz was right about anything?

Right Mover
Right Mover
December 11, 2020 12:15 am
Reply to  Buckeye

Never. But I’ll bet Jenna Ellis was right about Frank Luntz with her emasculating tweet directed at him a couple of weeks ago.

Clivus Multrum
Clivus Multrum
December 10, 2020 11:08 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

JEB❗️sounds just like Al Gore exactly 20 years ago at this time.

Andrew Heaberlin
Andrew Heaberlin
December 10, 2020 11:08 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

Please Clap!

Auntie Anxiety
Auntie Anxiety
December 10, 2020 11:17 pm
Reply to  sunnydaze

Jeb is just playing to his Democrat base.

Robert Smith
Robert Smith
December 11, 2020 12:02 am
Reply to  sunnydaze

Low Energy Jeb couldn’t carry the ball forward for his team.
He was embarrassed by Trump and rejected by the people.

MtnCougar
MtnCougar
December 10, 2020 10:04 pm

An interesting perspective about “weak” Republican legislators by Dinesh D’Souza, I found it quite helpful – our side offers very little/no protection

MtnCougar
MtnCougar
December 10, 2020 10:09 pm
Reply to  MtnCougar

My favorite phrase in this video about conservatives vs. liberals/leftists:
“Our niceness stimulates their aggression”

Zombienomicon (R)
December 10, 2020 10:05 pm

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Magabear
Magabear
December 10, 2020 10:10 pm

I don’t want to load up the site with tweets due to the current limitations right now, but there are some excellent one’s over at Robert Barnes site. Amazing how many people opining on what the Constitution says have never apparently read it!

Just hope a few more of these red state holdouts join in with the Texas suit. It really is a now or never moment.

Magabear
Magabear
December 10, 2020 10:15 pm
Reply to  Magabear

And no sooner do I say that and Idaho’s Lt. Gov. joins the suit! 👍

WeThePeople2016
WeThePeople2016
December 10, 2020 10:22 pm
Reply to  Magabear

I saw many patriots blasting the Idaho leadership for not joining the TX lawsuit. It looks like they got the message loud and clear.

RunnerMom in Idaho
RunnerMom in Idaho
December 10, 2020 10:44 pm

Heather Scott, our Rep., was huge in this and mentioned twice in this media release. She and so many legislators worked hard on this and we are thankful Idaho has sent its support.

cow wow
cow wow
December 10, 2020 10:14 pm

Tony Shaffer on Election Anomalies: Late Night Spikes for Biden; Curated Ballots; USPS Whistleblower

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/tony-shaffer-on-election-anomalies-late-night-spikes-for-biden-curated-ballots-usps-whistleblower_3613892.html

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Jeantexan
Jeantexan
December 10, 2020 10:25 pm
Reply to  cow wow

If the SC has any integrity, wisdom,
Courage and knowledge of the constitution they will do the right thing. If they do not, they will go down as people that destroyed
Our country.

jrapdx
December 10, 2020 10:42 pm
Reply to  Jeantexan

Well, there’s the theory that President Trump will act to clean up the mess of the election if the SC won’t do it.

It’s impossible to know if the President will take action re: Insurrection, martial law, etc. There are powerful reasons to think he will, then again he may decide doing so isn’t worth the risks it may entail. It’s plainly the case there’s no ideal solution at hand. The best outcome will be the SC voiding the election in the 4 states when sends the election to the House and Senate. It remains to be seen which direction it goes, most likely we won’t have long to wait.

Fish and hunt
Fish and hunt
December 10, 2020 11:05 pm
Reply to  jrapdx

Still believe the trigger for the Insurrection Act will be leftist violence. Esper is gone. If SCOTUS takes the case tomorrow, watch the rally on Sat. That could be the beginning. The left is being told the case is a joke. They’ve been told its decided. They’ll portray the President as the thief and unleash their scrawny hounds. The President will not play around or defer to states or DC as he did over the summer and fall through the BLM stuff.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:15 am
Reply to  Fish and hunt

Short of official recognition of his prevailing in the election, I have serious concerns about whether such orders would be acted on, even with esper gone.

Obama seeded the top layers of the Pentagon, so WHO accepts the order, and carries it out, from what may be construed as a lame duck POTUS, refusing to relinquish his office.

The media engineers have already pushed this out there, laying the groundwork.

Fish and hunt
Fish and hunt
December 11, 2020 8:28 am
Reply to  Dutchman

You don’t need the whole Armed Forces to put down Antifa and riots when Special Forces are under Miller now. Watching the Seals take on Antifa would be worth the price of admission, lol. And under the Insurrection Act if Habius Corpus is suspended in some areas (lib cities where this would occur) wouldn’t they now fall under military jurisdiction as to trials??? LOL

ExNihiloNihilFit
ExNihiloNihilFit
December 10, 2020 11:45 pm
Reply to  jrapdx

What’s there to lose at this point? They’ve already promised to destroy him and his family.

This is the hill to die on.

frogtongue
frogtongue
December 11, 2020 12:42 am

This is the hill upon which we take our stand . . . in the annals of history and events yet to be, a stand we take more clear than this there never was and will never be.

GB Bari
GB Bari
December 11, 2020 12:35 am
Reply to  jrapdx

Brendan Fallon presents his assessment of the President’s options to resolve this fraudulent mess.

WhiteBoard
WhiteBoard
December 10, 2020 10:19 pm

Remember the 11th!
You all earned this.
remember the past to prove POTUS will NEVER BACK DOWN. Take the time to Look at the video, THE TIME TO REMEMBER.
You earned it. to remake the site you are on, cost thousands, tens of thousands….. they tried to take out our only source of staying out of the illusion.
You earned it WATCH. get ready! you deserve everything.

WhiteBoard
WhiteBoard
December 10, 2020 10:20 pm
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WhiteBoard
WhiteBoard
December 10, 2020 10:27 pm

if you cant get the Seth Rich details from ty clevenger on what the FBI SAID THEY HAVE then watch the interivew today

keep in mind they said they hae Seth’s laptop – (the robbery remember)..
———-
FYI – the FBI is not confident Biden is going to win, or they woudlnt be DOING THIS. POTUS is untouchable in a 2nd term UNTOUCHABLE

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 10, 2020 10:41 pm
Reply to  WhiteBoard

Just imagine DJT in his second term. Known across the globe for having walked through fire – and for bringing down the despised deep-state.
He will have the biggest mandate any leader has had in modern history – to totally reshape the US and the world.

WhiteBoard
WhiteBoard
December 10, 2020 11:21 pm

thats what they fear. the 400+ electoral mandate.

Sonia
Sonia
December 10, 2020 10:39 pm

A Chinese anti-communist site has laid out its logic:

(1) Since the United States is the benchmark of Western democracy, the relationship between the United States and China is a relationship of natural enemies.

(2) Since the United States is the only dominant force in maintaining the existing international order, it will inevitably become a major obstacle to the CCP’s world hegemony. 

(3) Since the United States is the leader of the democratic world, the CCP understands that to conquer the United States, it cannot head head-on, but can only push forward through roundabout, dark steps, and adopt “key breakthroughs and point-to-point breakthroughs.” The goal is to use all kinds of insidious tricks and unconventional warfare. For this reason, the CCP has concentrated its resources to specifically target the weak links of the US system. It also mobilizes the vital parts of the whole body to carry out targeted strikes. This vital part is the US electoral system. The CCP sees it very clearly: Destroying the American electoral system also destroys the American people’s confidence in democracy. “Democracy” is a joke. Once the cornerstone of the electoral system is pryed off, the “separation of powers and checks and balances” that stand on it will collapse. Therefore, at the end of 2019, when the U.S. election year was approaching, the CCP sent the U.S. a carefully prepared super “package”. This “package” has three contents:

A. An agent group cultivated through decades , To usurp power;
B. Through the severe epidemic caused by the virus and biological warfare, the voters are isolated at home and then lured into the trap of “mailed ballots”;
C. Finally, the “mailed ballots” are cheated through online warfare to overthrow the legitimate government. 

The chaos in the US election that we are seeing today is the result of this super “package”.

However, the CCP launched the “new coronavirus” biological warfare and the cyber warfare to manipulate the general election, not just focusing on this US election, but to fundamentally destroy the US democratic system.

Source: bannedbook.org

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dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 10, 2020 10:46 pm
Reply to  Sonia

Sun Tsu say hello to my little friend Carl von Clausewitz

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 10, 2020 10:50 pm
Reply to  Sonia

Bottom line is China has nice shiny toys and pretty, fresh faced soldiers in sharp uniforms. But they have not fought any real wars in a very long time.
The US military has been in a state of constant war for the past century.
And training exercises and nice toys and Sun Tsu philosophy are all fun , but as our great philospher Mike Tyson said ” Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face”

Fish and hunt
Fish and hunt
December 10, 2020 11:10 pm

Taiwan is what to watch with China. If, when the left goes berserk here when the election is reversed, and social and economic turmoil explode here, they’re liable to make their move then. We have a defense pact with them the President will honor. China is arrogant beyond comprehension. They’ll strike when they think we’re busy with other things

another face in the crowd
another face in the crowd
December 10, 2020 11:23 pm
Reply to  Fish and hunt

completely agree said something similar in response to another comment on here somewhere.

If I was China noon EST. Jan. 20 would be a good time to do it….

Boilingmud
Boilingmud
December 10, 2020 11:54 pm
Reply to  Fish and hunt

Rumor has it we are moving major military assets to Taiwan at this moment in anticipation.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:28 am

That was my argument, until A2 set me straight, by (amongst other things) posting an english language translation of the paper written by two officers in the PRC, who are now Generals, and whose paper has now become PRC doctrine.

It begins by recognising the CHINESE military can NOT conquer the U.S. Militarily, that no country or coalition of countries militaries can.

So, just as described above, it lays out a plan of asymetrical and unconvential attacks, that COULD be successful.

Using TRADE as a weopon. Infiltration, corruption, cyber warfare, creating civil unrest, propoganda, and yes bio-weopons and EMP.

Any way they can attack us, other than direct confrontation.

And, its what they have been DOING, for many years. So, don’t be complacent with the knowledge that we could prevail in a direct conflict.

Bear and an alligator get in a death struggle, which prevails?

Depends on whether the terrain is forest or swamp.

Raffaella
Raffaella
December 10, 2020 10:40 pm

it is an avalanche now.

OffCourseNation
OffCourseNation
December 10, 2020 11:14 pm
Reply to  Raffaella

Gov. Little should resign and let her be Governor.

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Eric
Eric
December 10, 2020 10:52 pm

All Too Much
All Too Much
December 10, 2020 11:23 pm
Reply to  Eric

Hell, that’s a civil war.
Georgia v. Georgia

Raffaella
Raffaella
December 10, 2020 11:30 pm
Reply to  All Too Much

Pennsylvanians did the same filing today so civil war in both states.

Back to Basics
Back to Basics
December 11, 2020 12:39 am
Reply to  Raffaella

Come on, Michigan legislature. You can do it!!

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 10:57 pm

I an NOT an attorney, but I just finished reading all of the responses to the Texas SCOTUS Case.
TX AG: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/162953/20201207234611533_TX-v-State-Motion-2020-12-07%20FINAL.pdf
These are my summaries of the document contents:
Texas: Non-leislative actors changed established election laws, gave favorable treatment to voters in Democrat heavy areas; and relaxed ballot integrity protections causing voting irregularities. Thus the respective legislatures should appoint the Electors.

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 10:57 pm

PA AG: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163367/20201210142206254_Pennsylvania%20Opp%20to%20Bill%20of%20Complaint%20v.FINAL.pdf

Texas does not have standing; does not present a viable case, and election was already certified; fails to assert a Constitutional violation; is not entitled to preliminary injunction.

TMonroe
TMonroe
December 10, 2020 11:14 pm

PA AG should be recused for his pre-election remarks with direct bearing:

“If all the votes are added up in PA, Trump is going to lose. That’s why he’s working overtime to subtract as many votes as possible from this process. For the record, he’s 0-6 against us in court.“

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:51 am
Reply to  TMonroe

The responce of Penn to the earlier suit which has been misreported as dropped by Alito when it was just the injunction that was denied, was pretty weak.

“You can’t/shouldn’t do this, cause nobody has, before.” Is not a very strong argument.

Pounding fists on the table, cause they have neither law or facts on their side.

WES
WES
December 10, 2020 11:18 pm

Cov:

I think it is a foregone conclusion that SCOTUS will not rule on the election and will leave settling of the fraudulent election results in the hands of their masters.

Jason
Jason
December 10, 2020 11:21 pm
Reply to  WES

As President Trump famously said in his debate against Hillary…”Wrong”.

All Too Much
All Too Much
December 10, 2020 11:22 pm

Nice job, Treeper Not An Attorney. I’ve read the briefs and you summaries, and your work is as fine as this attorney might have done, and undoubtably more concise.

Back to Basics
Back to Basics
December 11, 2020 12:40 am

We already certified our crime, so now you can’t change it!

Like a bunch of six-year-olds!

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 10:58 pm

MI AG: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163387/20201210145404465_22O155%20Texas%20MI%20BIO%2012-10.pdf

Election was already certified; no standing for original jurisdiction, and MI officials did not violate MI laws. No group was identified as having preferencial treatement; votes were not diluted.

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 10:58 pm

GA AG: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163383/20201210145849997_Georgia%20–%20Brief%20in%20Opposition.pdf

All laws were followed; Texas claims were dismissed by GA courts. Texas lacks standing because Biden never broke a tie vote. Georgia didn’t injure Texas.

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 10:59 pm

WI AG: http://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163393/20201210150111653_Brief.pdf

Texas has not interest in Wi eletion administration. WI courts dismissed Texas claims. Texas wited too long; could have complained before election. Wi followed all their laws.

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 10:59 pm

Summary of all defendants:

We didnt injure Texas, they waited to long to file, the lower courts threw out all accusations, our state officials say everything was fine and there was no fraud, our laws dont mean what they say, and dont believe anything you saw. Oh, and it was just an election, no biggy.

Fish and hunt
Fish and hunt
December 10, 2020 11:13 pm

Plus, Orange Man Bad and sedition

Bree
Bree
December 10, 2020 11:32 pm
Reply to  Fish and hunt

😂

mr.piddles
mr.piddles
December 10, 2020 11:46 pm
Reply to  Fish and hunt

And baseless conspiracy disinformation!

Johnny Dollar
Johnny Dollar
December 10, 2020 11:27 pm

If your summary is correct, then this shouldn’t take long

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:40 am

How about the Constitution establishes the individual State Legislatures have plenary, or near absolute authority over elections in their State.

The elections can be run in any manner, and the legislature can violate previous laws passed by their legislature, even violate the State Constitution if they choose.

They could pick electors by throwing darts of dice, if they choose.

It is not on other States, or SCOTUS, to second guess or dictate actions to the State legislatures.

The HAVE the authority to do what plaintiffs request, if they choose, but cannot be forced to.

Kicking it back to State legislatures avoids conflicts with federalism.
Does Az have to implement Calif gun laws, cause otherwise there is disparate impact?

Gonna be interesting to hear oral arguments.

VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms
VandalizeDuhMastuhsAlgorithms
December 10, 2020 11:05 pm

There’s something happening here
But what it is ain’t exactly clear
There’s a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware

I think it’s time we stop
Children, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

There’s battle lines being drawn
Nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong
Young people speaking’ their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind

It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

What a field day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly saying, “hooray for our side”

It’s time we stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you’re always afraid
Step out of line, the man come and take you away

We better stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

We better stop
Hey, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

We better stop
Now, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

We better stop
Children, what’s that sound?
Everybody look – what’s going down?

Boogywstew
December 10, 2020 11:12 pm

For what it’s worth, that’s Buffalo Springfield.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:46 am
Reply to  Boogywstew

Hah, I always thought it was “mostly saying hooray for our SIGNS”.

As in “Look at me!”

JCM800
JCM800
December 10, 2020 11:15 pm

MAGA

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Joemama
Joemama
December 10, 2020 11:15 pm

Am I being naïve, or is Lou Dobbs going to go down in history as being the ONLY Main Stream Media reporter that attempted to be truthful and was not compromised in this era?

mimbler
December 10, 2020 11:28 pm
Reply to  Joemama

My wife and I were saying just that while watching his show today,

RWG (Right Wing Gal)
RWG (Right Wing Gal)
December 11, 2020 12:25 am
Reply to  Joemama

He pays for his time spot, that is why he isn’t compromised. He has no masters.

Joemama
Joemama
December 11, 2020 12:51 am

Thanks for your response.

I don’t understand. You indicate that he pays for his time spot.

Do you mean that he pays dollars for his time spot, or are you saying that he pays for it in other ways? I’m confused.

Thanks.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:45 am
Reply to  Joemama

Why do you think he’s called “The GREAT Lou Dobbs”? He’s the only one I have heard regularly critisise Mitch and the Senate Rinos.

Not only will no other commentators do it, but Nunes, Jordan, etc won’t,…only Dobbs!

Texsun
Texsun
December 10, 2020 11:34 pm

Just looking at the U.S. map and the states that have taken sides, it’s not going to be easy to draw the lines. I would hate to be those states, surrounded by red states, they will automatically be behind enemy lines. Poor Georgia…

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/breaking-now-democrat-attorneys-general-align-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-georgia-nearly-every-state-picked-sides/

mr.piddles
mr.piddles
December 10, 2020 11:50 pm
Reply to  Texsun

And I think you could “flip” IA, ID, WY, KY, and AK.

For my part, I’ll be working deep behind enemy lines. Like Julia Child.

CovfefeBerserker
CovfefeBerserker
December 10, 2020 11:59 pm
Reply to  Texsun

Eric posted that Georgia’s legislature filed an Amenicus Brief supporting Texas.

.

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Fish and hunt
Fish and hunt
December 11, 2020 8:49 am
Reply to  Texsun

In Georgia, all the major cities are in enemy territory in their own states

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
December 10, 2020 11:49 pm

Portland Police layin’ down the Law.



Robert Smith
Robert Smith
December 11, 2020 12:09 am
Reply to  sunnydaze

How about you roll in there with armored cars and stun grenades?

TreeClimber
TreeClimber
December 11, 2020 12:28 am
Reply to  sunnydaze

They got rid of the last police chief who tried that…

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
December 10, 2020 11:51 pm

haha.



dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 11, 2020 12:00 am
Reply to  sunnydaze

1938: Adolph Hitler
1939: Joseph Stalin
1942: Joseph Stalin ( they really really loved this guy !!)

sunnydaze
sunnydaze
December 11, 2020 12:17 am
Reply to  sunnydaze

dogface, yup!




mr.piddles
mr.piddles
December 11, 2020 12:21 am
Reply to  sunnydaze

It’s official, folks!

Step 1. Fox News declares the “winner” of the Fake Election.
Step 2. State Attorneys General “certify” the Fake Election.
Step 3. Fake Election “winners” anointed Time’s Person Of The Year.

Fish and hunt
Fish and hunt
December 11, 2020 8:50 am
Reply to  mr.piddles

Step 4: All narrative contradicting this is eliminated

mikeyboo
mikeyboo
December 11, 2020 11:04 am
Reply to  mr.piddles

Wait til they learn how of us don’t frcking care about the “declarations and certifications” of our “betters”.

mikeyboo
mikeyboo
December 11, 2020 11:05 am
Reply to  mikeyboo

Wait til they learn how many of us don’t frcking care about the “declarations and certifications” of our “betters”.

All Too Much
All Too Much
December 10, 2020 11:52 pm
LOL
LOL
December 11, 2020 6:39 am
Reply to  All Too Much

Go, Lin.

Marygrace Powers
Marygrace Powers
December 10, 2020 11:55 pm

Pentagon Looking to Withdraw Support From CIA Counter-Terrorism Operations/

Dave DeCamp
December 10, 2020

“According to a report from Defense One, President Trump’s new Pentagon appointees are reviewing the Defense Department’s (DOD) support for CIA counter-terrorism operations.

Two sources told Defense One that CIA Director Gina Haspel had already received a letter from Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller that said a long-standing arrangement between the Pentagon and the spy agency is in jeopardy.

An anonymous senior defense official told CNN that the administration is planning to cut most Pentagon support for CIA counter-terrorism operations by early next year.

The Defense One report said the initiative is the pet project of Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Ezra Cohen-Watnick, who was appointed to his position during President Trump’s Pentagon shake-up.

https://news.antiwar.com/2020/12/10/pentagon-could-withdraw-support-for-cia-counter-terrorism-operations/

Ezra Cohen Watnick’s pet project/beginning of the end of CIA/AMEN.

“splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.” JFK

ed bernay
ed bernay
December 10, 2020 11:58 pm

A week or so ago, there was a rumor of a shootout between Delta Operators and CIA’s Paramilitary Force when the CIA servers were seized in Germany in relation to the election. The rumor was five Delta killed and one CIA Paramilitary operator. At the time, it seemed that many viewed this as an exaggeration and probably did not happen. I saw one comment that said look for a story that a CIA operator was killed in another country.

Well today I saw this story and coincidentally, the CIA paramilitary force is being defunded.
I feel like I am Mr Anderson from the matrix prior to taking the red pill.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pentagon-plans-cut-support-cias-counterterrorism-missions/story?id=74641591

Chris Johnson
Chris Johnson
December 11, 2020 12:15 am
Reply to  ed bernay

Definitely makes you go… hmmm. The source I read said the deaths of the five soldiers would have a cover story of a crash that killed five soldiers.

So, have there been any such stories recently?

Yes, yes there have;

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/11/14/army-identifies-5-soldiers-killed-sinai-helicopter-crash.html

Is that actually what happened or is this the cover story?

I have no idea… just another “hmmm” for the pile.

Dutchman
Dutchman
December 11, 2020 12:00 am

Not that I think they are GOING to, but I think I know how SCOTUS could “dodge” a decision on the Texas case.

Its the equivalent of sending it back to theclower courts; sending it back to the legislatures;

The Constitution extends plenary power to the individual State legislatures, to have total authority over how electors are chosen to represent their State, in the electoral college.

They can draw straws if they want to. So, they can accept the (allegedly) fraudulent results, disregard said results and appoint electors, disregard and not appoint (throwing it to the House) but, they would say, SCOTUS does not have the authority to abrogate this authority, clearly spelled out in the Constitution. The plaintiff States can ask the State legislatures for the relief sought, but they can not demand it, and SCOTUS can’tt enforce the relief sought.

Seems to me a decision going the other way, paves the way for one or more State legislatures forcing THEIR election standards on other State legislatures, such as voter I.D. under threat or actually being sued and having SCOTUS force the issue.

While I like the idea, its the same argument of gun control States, against neighboring States with less restrictive gun laws, or mj laws in one state, causing another state problems.

At what point does the Texas case run smack up against Federalism?
If the legislature has plenary power, it is up to THEM to excercise it how THEY choose.
If they want to accept fraudulent results, or flip a coin, is it up to other States or SCOTUS to gainsay them?

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 11, 2020 12:08 am
Reply to  Dutchman

Well, the SC could note the obvious fraud and lack of proper oversight. They could note that the voting process as laid out by the state legislatures were not followed. Then they throw it back to the state legislatures to do as they please.
These legislatures would then find themselves in a tough spot. Huge public outcry supported by the SC observations against following the vote. Probably huge pushback against not following the vote.
Then – they might just be unable to make a decision, pick electors . Then it goes to Congress of a vote in January.

Eric
Eric
December 11, 2020 12:11 am
Reply to  Dutchman

SCOTUS is being asked to rule on the constitutionality of what happened in 4 states. It was clearly not constitutional. Relying on those states to remedy their own unconstitutional actions does not work.
Let’s say the executive branch began spending money from the U.S. Treasury, by ordering the Secretary to print money and spend it. Congress would sue, because they have the power of the purse. So would SCOTUS then say “The Executive Branch includes the cabinet position of the Secretary of the Treasury, who the President can order to stop doing this unconstitutional act..”?
Except in my example – who is harmed? In TX suit – they are harmed by having their votes diluted and in other ways.
SCOTUS will try everything to duck this I believe. If they do so successfully, they will simply have hastened their own demise in more ways than one.

dogfacedponysoldier
dogfacedponysoldier
December 11, 2020 12:19 am
Reply to  Eric

Maybe having military intelligence start legal action against Chinese interference and naming their American collaborators – would stiffen spines a bit?

Lurker360
Lurker360
December 11, 2020 2:57 am
Reply to  Dutchman

Hey Dutch, Appreciate the points and illumination of the potentially slippery slope. IMO the key difference and key to this suit is the value of the vote. What one state does with guns or MJ does not dilute (or enhance) the value of another state’s voters’ votes.

MR52
MR52
December 11, 2020 12:18 am

BREAKING! Pennsylvania Will JOIN Texas Lawsuit AGAINST Pennsylvania! This is HUGE!https://choiceclips.whatfinger.com/2020/12/10/breaking-pennsylvania-will-join-texas-lawsuit-against-pennsylvania-this-is-huge/

Patriarch
Patriarch
December 11, 2020 12:22 am
LiveBestLife
LiveBestLife
December 11, 2020 12:37 am

I agree that Lou Dobbs appears to be the only media person left with integrity.

henry
henry
December 11, 2020 7:04 am

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