The recent indictment of Clinton lawyer Michael Sussmann has triggered a significant amount of well intended articles, essentially reconstituting the hope that someone -or some group- might finally be held accountable for the multi-year, multi-issue, multi-institution fraud, better known as ‘spygate’.
Factually, the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was always a complete ruse perpetrated upon the American people, with the intended objective to stop Trump, then hamstring Trump; then cover-up what they were doing to accomplish those goals; and then finally destroy the Trump presidency. Y’all know the story, I ain’t repeating it.
As an outcome of the Sussmann indictment, many are wondering if this is the first domino in a series of explosive political dominoes that might fall and finally collapse the entire house of cards that surrounded the Clinton campaign and their conspiring with intelligence operatives, politicians, media, DOJ and FBI officials.
Yes, there are interesting dynamics within the Sussmann indictment story-lines; and yes, the authors digging through the indictment granules are all well versed in the details and very good at putting forth optimistic possibilities.
Paul Sperry Article Here – TechnoFog Article Here
…and there are likely dozens more, like THIS and THIS and THIS.
Read them all, follow them all and consider them all. However, as to the bigger question: will the Durham probe finally outline all the evidence to prove all the years of deception and fraud perpetrated by the massive aligned system of corrupt government?
My short and painful answer is, NO.
The longer answer is attached to the one issue that all researched opinions and analytical theories never touch. The 800lb gorilla in the room that no one will put into their accountability prism, because it blocks all other sunlight:
If Durham was going to reveal what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?
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Bill Barr was the Bondo.
John Durham is the spray paint.
Agree. This is more psy-op. At this point why would they trot out Durham, as if? Durham is supposedly on the up and up, but let an election be stolen, etc., etc., but is NOW going to out thyem all?? RRriiiiigghht. This is probably cooked up by the same people who played the Q game, getting a big Ha-Ha out of giving the stupid rubes hope that there is some kind of rag of gov’t left in DC, instead of the illegal gang of usurping criminal turds. The more we buy into the idea that America still exists as we thought it did, the less time we spend exploring alternate options. We now know Constitutionalism doesn’t work, all due respect to the Freemasons. “Durham”, if he even exists, is just a distract/ delay tactic.
Couldn’t have said it better.
In most conspiracies that become sufficiently documented to expose the members, a fall guy is usually selected to provide an alternative explanation rendering the conspirators untouchable. But does anyone really think that an Obama judge will allow someone of Sussman’s stature to be a fall guy? Not bloody likely. Remember, it’s not what you know it’s what you can prove.
Judge is not just an Obama judge but his wife was Lisa Page’s lawyer and Merrick Garland officiated at their wedding.
It’s not even what you can prove in this country anymore. If you’re on the Left, evidence is irrelevant. If you’re on the Right, lack of evidence is irrelevant.
Cash for clunkers
Looks like a Target in the middle. He looks concerned. Nuke DC. Nothing is true.
If Durham was going to reveal what optimistic folks proclaim as possible; how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?
According to the Sperry article, the FBI found no substance to what Sussmann provided.
That seems to be the out for MuleEar. If the FBI found nothing, MuleEar would have no reason to pursue it, so he can be indicted.
Are there any other lies the FBI declared as lies and did not pursue?
As opposed to the other FBI lies that MuleEar did pursue?
I don’t think durham will lead us to the truth.
But if durham found sussmann, how are they going to explain that mulehead didn’t?
I think anything that durham finds underminds the mulehead narrative.
Either mulehead knew about sussmann,and ignored it. Or he was so incompetent they never even looked.
I hope this isn’t the end,and that it’s only the beginning. But I’m out of tick tocks.
its simple…mueller’s specific tasking..THE MEMO (the one that has so far NOT been fully published for review by anyone) narrowly defined his scope.
That’s the excuse.
“my job did not involve looking at the origin…I followed the letter of the scope memo. My job was to determine if a crime was committed by the President of the United States. And when we determined that there was no such crime, nor even that if one actually existed, we were bound to not pursue it BASED ON OUR OWN INTERNAL POLICY STANDARD THAT SITTING PRESIDENTS ARE AFFORDED FIREWALLS AGAINST SUCH CHARGES”
so we just devised a way to SHOW a crime had been committed, that there was reason to believe it was true, and published it…KNOWING there would never be a trial or an actual criminal complaint filed. We HACKED the constitution, in other words. We stand by our claims, based on the information we pursued per the letter of the scope memo. We never did attempt to inspect for origin issues, because the PRESUMPTION of a crime was based purely in a scope memo that asserted one existed.
Durham, should be choose to dissemble this dumpster fire, will find himself in a situation that is unwinnable.
He will have to show that the Department of Justice willingly and with intent created a scope memo and shaped it in such a way to force an investigation that not just assumed only one narrative, but created that narrative and then also aggravating that conspiracy, selected a scope so limiting that it bound mueller to ignore all other possible leads.
We KNOW this is exactly what happened. Durham probably knows it too. How could he not, unless he is truly living in a cave and his 15 elite members tap dancing around the 800 gorilla. I can assure anyone they must know.
which leads to an important question: what exactly does the scope memo for tasking state about the durham investigation? Is he also BOUND AND LIMITED to only investigating certain paths?
I think we will find that is true for Durham.
in a nutshell, sussman probably got a call. You are going to face some music for a few weeks. You did not follow good opsec, and for that incredibly stupid set of obvious mistakes, you are going to be made to sweat a little bit. It’s not serious though….Just let us handle the court case and we will work out a deal that does not require any of your actions up to and including make false statements to ever be read in a courtroom.
I thought the scope memo was revised to allow them to target general flynns son.
But wasn’t the original task to look into the whole russia collusion hoax?
Then durham was tasked with finding out the origins of the hoax.
Somehow, I may have blended all these scam’s together.
If mulehead knew about sussmann and didn’t shut it down. Doesn’t that prove PRESIDENT TRUMP’s claim it was a witch Hunt?
Easy. MuleEar gets a pass as long as the upper level FBI sticks to their plan of saying they were duped by the lies.
Same as Klinesmith. He lied to everybody, but gee, nobody knew it was a lie at the time, so they just did their jobs because they are such fine G-men.
Sussmann lied to the FBI, specifically to Baker and likely others. They just stupidly believed him and did their duty.
In FBI minds, it’s better to look stupid for doing so than criminal.
There may be other lower level flunkies that get in trouble, but I doubt much happens to them.
Although Sussman was a Perkins-Coie lawyer which the FBI knew derived their main source of income from Washington Democrats, the FBI never suspected he was working for “Honest Hillary” Clinton.
If the federal law-enforcement community can be deceived into trying to destroy the duly elected President by the likes of Sussman and Klinesmith, how the hell are they able to credibly protect us from Russia and China? They should obviously be patrolling the aisles of supermarkets watching for lettuce thieves! After intensive retraining of course.
When the FBLie is able to whitewash the abuse and rape of young female Olympic athletes and we hear nary a peep from the DOJ, what leads anyone to think they’ll muster the self honesty to punish their colleagues for actions they were in agreement with?
There is no Tick Tock. There is no ‘Trust the Plan’.
There is only did it happen or did it not.
So far NOT.
I’ll try : the crime to which the conspiracy is linked is Sussman’s lie to the FBI. Of course there are more, but gotta start somewhere.
4 pm ET tomorrow: AZ
The paint may be red like the blood of Sussman but, I agree. They do need a bad guy to hang on what everyone knows happened in order to help make it go away and stop bothering Hillary because what freakin difference can it possibly make at this point. Sigh. Sussman will be well rewarded for whatever punishment is finally inflicted upon him. I hope it is more than weekends in some special minimum security place for a few months and loss of license to practice law, like he needs to make any more money at this point anyway. I do want my fair share of his derrière please.
Sussmann will take a J walking plea or the DoJ will screw up the case the right amount to get it dismissed or compliant Judiciary will declare it a process crime of little real consequence.
You know the story.
My money’s on “he really didn’t intend to lie”.
In DC lying has no standing. I knew when roberts lied about Obamacare and ruined our healthcare industry
The traitor (Roberts). ?
The Road Not Taken – by Robert Frost
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
Does Durham wisely choose the correct road to take ?
One road is Bondo and Spray Paint, the other is Justice and Accountability.
Durham “chooses” nothing. He follows orders.
So refreshing to read Frost, & how pertinently his observation is applied here.
The whole thing with Durham/Barr a Psyop. As is the covid scamdemic a Psyop too.
So what? Durham should expose the truth even if it involved Mueller’s investigation.
I for one would like to know more about the CIA’s involvement in this. The name of the CIA general counsel whom Sussman contacted in December, 2016, is Caroline Krass; she remained general counsel until May, 2017. Did she brief Mike Pompeo on the Sussman crap after Pompeo was sworn in on January 23? Was Pompeo aware of the meeting between Sussman and the two CIA people on February 9? Did all of this information reach President Trump in real time?
While I would love to see Perkins Coie disappear, I pray that someone going through their files finds proof that they never sent a young, female lawyer on a redeye flight to Honolulu to retrieve Obama’s “long form birth certificate.” That’s when the charade really began.
That’s Depressing. I pray you are wrong about this one, that this time it will be different. Everything has a life span.
Why then the tease with Durham’s indictment of Sussman?
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Keep the rubes distracted and occupied. Provide evidence of a pretend thorough investigation into the weeds. And why not — an expendable apparatchik. Fairly harmless since everything and everyone leading up to the charge is beyond the Statute of Limitations now. Maybe he pissed someone off. Or maybe not. A crumb to be thrown here and there that doesn’t actually touch the FBI, CIA, or regular Deep State players.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1441189805124030464.html
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And yes, this. Publish the “narrative” so that all the “innocent” everyone elses can get on the same page.
it may have been leaked by corruptors in purpose to spoil the case.
remember …there is such a thing as unlawful disclosure of grand jury information.
As I recall (please correct me if I am wrong), but the release of the indictment and the charge sheet was released/leaked to the public BEFORE it was officially filed in a court.
this was done for sure, not to shoulder public support for a case, but to spike it.
DC judge: I agree the special investigators office unlawfully disclosed information fron a sealed grand jury hearing. This has impacted the outcome of a fair and equitable trial for the defendant, and has in no small way injured the “rules” of due process.
watch for it.
leaking stuff has an interesting way of making sure no crimes will ever be prosecuted.
I think Sidney Powell has written about this strategy by the DOJ and federal prosecutors more than once.
unless of course, you happen to be LTGEN Flynn….
see how this works?
Bondo and spary paint –sometimes pictures are more revealing than words ??
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I still maintain there is no such person as John Durham. Somebody found this photo and decided to call “it” John Durham and build a house of cards around it. Remember, we have never seen a video of this person, only the photo. It could be anybody. This “indictment” will go nowhere and was only done to placate the Patriots – to make them think “something” is being done in order to keep them at bay and prevent their appearance in D.C . with torches and pitchforks. We need to make our “appearance” while we can still get on planes and travel.
Durham is an avatar — has anyone seen any other picture of him than the one that gets trotted out every few months to support the notion that he is actually doing something?
Crickets….
how is Durham going to handle the reality that Robert Mueller’s entire existence was in place to hide it?
answer: by simply refusing to even address it. Remember, this is ONE charged (thus far not prosecuted) against ONE actor. There are no other charges. None. One might be inclined to speculate based on the indictment there are other paths, but those paths so far have not been pursued.
spray paint?
how about just putting a cap on the spray paint and putting it on the shelf ?
there is the strongest likelihood this is exactly how it will all end. By simply refusing to do anything beyond sussman.
And noting…there is a very strong likelihood that sussman will be OFFERED a plead deal that allows him to accept guilt, by showing some level of contrition, and none of this even goes to the court. Or simply, the court accept his plead and “given his prior record”, a distinguished fellow, doncha know, and he gets to pay a fine and maybe a suspended sentence and “has” to perform 60 hours of community service, that involves cocktails and shrimp platters with the DC “elite”.
so that’s the very real possibility.
the other possibility is that the court throws the book at him for playing wrecking ball and deceiving the entire fleet of power players. hahahha..yeah, just saying that out loud is so laughable.
durham might be an honorable dude. he might be. But the reality is that this case has never been and never will be left to his work. The moment the entire fleet of corruptors fakes this crap up, the decision was made. No going back…no justice and certainly no consequences.
the only way any of this gets to any level of justice is that at least a dozen “few good men” grow a conscience and walk out of the pit and admit the entire thing was corrupted. We KNOW that will never happen. These people are 100 percent invested in perpetrating a coup.
they continue to do so, because they KNOW there will never be consequences.
as I write this, make no mistake, every single one of them, in one way or shape, is making sure that sussman walks…with nothing more than a quick and quiet plead deal.
He’s pay a fine…excuses will be written..history will be edited.
and that’s that.
the potomac two step with a twirl.
When one is to lay out all the documents Sundance highlights (here, here and here) over a work table, examine each documents, analysis, views and reporting of our deep divers, It is not all doom and gloom. The few highlighted referenced documents Sundance points is not confine to those he highlighted, it is more of a beginning, a point of reference. It takes a few pass over of just those items before the ahh- ha’ kicks in, in fact that initial group of documents laid out starts to grow, building like brick by brick before getting an idea what Durham is doing. Sussmann assumed he was going to beat the clock, but he has added time extending SOL (statute of limitations) by venturing into witnesses that were still connected to government policies, legal clause & etc. that became a subject of certain investigations, some had signed agreements with the Mueller tribe, some with the IG, FBI, IPR and other investigating entities that required disclosures and non-disclosures, but they all fall under the umbrella of the US Government.
The further you analyze, you’ll find it rather interesting how Durham took advantage of districts, states, agencies, DOJ agreements like plea, MOU’s where each has time, dates & penalties enumerated in a clause or preambles before signature, GJ & other US District courts working away and around the corrupt DC courts. Every witness, suspect and actors intertwine like a web between those closely connected to DC. Durham has incorporated the Mueller SC material (investigation, pleas and legal court actions & filings) into his work. Several cases not often covered by MSM, Popedopulas. Carter Page, Cohen and Imran Awan are instrumental in Durhams freedom of movement and work around the statute of limitations.
What I thought to be a dud is much broader than I first observed in the highlighted material, its much much more than what Durham is given credit for. It actually brilliant if you give it some unbiased analysis by laying out the material noted, and each analysis will take you to the “wayback” machine. Oh, pay attention to the foot notes and its references (key), Dates/times matters (very crucial).
If the deep state really thought that Durham was going to get to the bottom of the skullduggery, he would already be taking a dirt nap.
Excellent article about this on Zero Hedge.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-security-adviser-jake-sullivan-tied-alleged-2016-clinton-scheme-co-opt-ciafbi-tar
I have been following GPS fusion since I heard about them on NPR about how they where intimating an independent reporter doing a story on the drug cartel for the WSJ. This lead me to Gary Web, Clinton’s Bush sex and drug trafficking and getting black Americans hooked on crack cocaine. Watch Kill a Messager and Made In America. Spice it with Snowden and Falcon and the Snowman and add a touch of Three Days of The Condor topped with Epstein and all the kickbacks from military contracts, WHO, NGOs and you have one big cover up with a plandemic to provide cover and a fake election.
……people talk about truth…..Durham is playing horseshoes with ladyfingers. It’s a distraction.
Too little too late? Did Durhams investigation reach the end of the statue of limitations as of last weekend?
Will Attorney General Garland stop funding Durhams special council investigation after September 30th (end of governments fiscal year)?
Will Durhams investigation drag on like all the other previous dangling carrot kabuki shows to get the voters to the polls for 2022 election?
A misdirection play, if you ask me.
It appears as if the criminal ruling class is trying to cover the tracks of the Obama administration spying on its opponants. They want to focus on the Hillary campaign and the minor activities (Alfa Bank, meeting with Don Jr., etc.)
The 800 lb gorilla is Obama!
No pun intended.
The Wolves investigating the Whales makes for better reading!
Effort to spread discredited Russia collusion theory welcomed by McCain Senate panel, memos show
Excerpt:
The revelation that a committee led by the Republican McCain and Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island engaged a nonprofit with significant partisan ties is certain to reverberate in Washington and further the GOP narrative that the Russia collusion allegations were more a political dirty trick than a legitimate counterintelligence concern.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/effort-spread-discredited-russia-collusion-theory
I suppose the point is that, during Durham’s investigation, he has had absolutely no choice but to understand that Mueller’s entire existence was to hide the corruption and its players. Whether there is actual legal remit to do anything about the individual players, or go after them, is another issue.
On a brighter note than Sundance’s re: Durham
The efforts to disseminate a now-discredited theory that the Trump campaign had secret computer communications with the Kremlin extended beyond the FBI, CIA, and State Department to the U.S. Senate.
Under the late Sen. John McCain, the Armed Services Committee engaged a former FBI official and his progressive-funded nonprofit to produce a report on the matter, according to court records obtained by Just the News.
The Senate committee, now under Democrats’ control, successfully waged a secret federal court battle this summer to quash a subpoena that would have forced one of its staffers, Thomas Kirk McConnell, to turn over documents and testify about his dealings with former FBI analyst Dan Jones and his nonprofit, The Democracy Integrity Project, the records show.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/effort-spread-discredited-russia-collusion-theory
Clinton and her people are scum but the real problem is the participation of FBI/DOJ in the coup.
Agreed. This is all just more Pie In The Sky crap. Nothing will come of this. If Durham was to be effective, this would have come out TWO YEARS AGO. He is part of the coverup.
Everything seems to be in the timing.
Wait until revealing the truth no longer matters, or can be used to achieve some political goal that was not in place when the truth was concealed. The promise of the whole truth and nothing but the truth is the exact opposite of what these players are always actively pursuing.
Whether it is the Durham indictments, Hunter’s laptop is for real after all, Biden’s immigration policies are (now) a mess, etc.
We all have to wonder, what is the overall purpose in leaking out selective truths at this moment in time?
And yet, it does seem like a snowball is rolling that can’t be stopped just as the recent videos released from January 6th show.
If you believe in God’s sovereignty (as I do), you know that He can turn the tables and reveal truth whenever He chooses!
I think He has some real doozies in store for all real truth lovers.
The people who did this, and rhe cabal that perpetuated this fraud, did so for personal benefit. Their family members and all their friends win financially when democrats are in power. Their sons, daughters, brothers and sisters, husbands and wives all get high-paying jobs from the democrats in charge. This includes the media and their families. All of them crave power, money and influence. Their self-interest has corrupted them and they cheer each other on to justify their actions.
Agree 100%. ‘Government’ will always cover for other ‘members of the club’ if for no other reason than to protect their own rear ends from being sodomized. There may be some low level info that ‘leaks’ out and a few ‘pawns’ may be sacrificed in order to appease those crying for ‘blood’. But “for the good of the Country” the full facts will never be revealed and the ‘higher ups’ will never be held to account.
JD is saving it all for his tell all book that will become a metaphor for the futility of thinking anyone in D.C. will ever be held accountable for anything.
I have a difficult time believing that anyone will ever touch Hillary. I have watched the Clintons since the 1970s and continue to be amazed that neither is in prison.
The only accountability we will see is that which we help to make for ourselves. It would be nice if we had a justice system that wasn’t compromised. But what we might be seeing, and the timing of what we are seeing, is the awakening that will stop them all.
Consider this: Multiple aspects of fraud and corruption are on display. Not everyone believes all of it. But but once ONE thing gains traction as truth, all of the others become more believable to the masses.
For many, it’s going to be Afghanistan. For others it will be the illegal alien trafficking. Generally for all, it’s the absurd and obvious rise in fuel prices and all other things costing more. And these people want to believe their anger to be justified. And with all of those things going on, the noise about the plandemic, the Durham report(?), the election audits?
With one or a combination of the obvious mainstream issues, it provides the anger to want to know about the others. And soon a much more massive amount of people will be standing up and standing out.
The psychology of deception is just as sound. Wrap a lie within a veneer of truth and the lie becomes more reasonable to accept. But when the truth is too hard to believe, waiting for people to get angry enough to accept the truth functions in a VERY similar way.
What if the indictment is the report?
Barr is the Bondo
Durham is the spray paint
Who is the magnet?
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The Mueller investigation didnt find Sussman or Clinton because they were looking in the opposite direction. The Steele Dossier was too good a gift horse to have its teeth examined. The FBI accepted the Steele Dossier allegations at face value.
As a retired Intelligence Officer, I read the Steele Dossier with increasing disbelief. Every one of the allegations was anonymous. The Dossier contained no information that would allow the sources to be queried about the allegations. They were unverifiable. And yet they were gospel.
Will Sussman’s prosecution prove that Hillary was behind it all? Maybe. Everyone already know this, we just don’t have documentary or testimonial proof.
I mostly agree. But, watch Arizona and how far that goes. The election audits are not under federal control. If those dominoes fall (which is a tall order), then others probably will, too. They will always protect themselves.
Yes. So many on the Right have allowed their hopes to rekindle. I truly do wish they were right.
This recent development by Durham is similar to Comey’s investigation of Hillary . The only outcome of this will be the destruction of any evidence. No evidence will remain that any DA would be willing to take to a judge.
As for Durham; think about those images of Peter Strozk mugging for the camera and you’ll get the picture of what’s really happening with this investigation.