The “Rise of the Moors” group, is a Muslim faction of U.S. citizens who do not recognize America as a valid, independent or authentic nation [Website Here]. As a result they do not consider themselves aligned with the citizenship of the U.S. as a sovereign state. Instead they perceive their homeland as “the Maghreb Al Aqsa (America – Morocco the most extreme west)”.
Last night at approximately 2:00am ET Massachusetts state police pulled over two vehicles containing 8-10 heavily armed members of the Moor group as they were heading to a training exercise. After several members of the group refused to comply with “papers please“, a stand-off began. [Insert suspicious cat considering the absence of ‘probable cause’ here.] Some of the Moors ran into the neighboring woods. The police set up a perimeter. After the stand-off was resolved (took all night and morning), some of the Moors were arrested [2 pictured Below].
The version of events from local Massachusetts law enforcement is:
“The Wakefield Police Department is assisting the Massachusetts State Police with a dangerous incident on Route 128 Northbound in the area of Parker Road.
During a motor vehicle stop, several heavily armed men claiming to be from a group that does not recognize our laws exited their vehicles and fled into the woodline off 128 in the area of Parker Road / Elm Street. Approximately 8 males fled into the woods carrying rifles and handguns and appear to be contained in the wooded area adjacent to the highway. No threats were made, but these men should be considered armed and dangerous.” (read more)
It would appear the issue of ‘probable cause‘ for the original stop is part of the issue being avoided by law enforcement (and media). The men were armed, but had broken no laws and were legally transiting between their home in Rhode Island to another location. Unfortunately, the media reporting aligns with the obfuscated descriptions from law enforcement and , wait for it,… the FBI: “Kristen Setera, FBI Boston spokeswoman, said the FBI is “fully engaged with our state and local partners.” (link)
The police are saying the cars were pulled over in the emergency lane with their hazard lights flashing when the trooper arrived at 1:30am. I would consider that explanation suspect, unless the guys pulled over because they needed to pee. I doubt a convoy of heavily armed men in tactical gear wearing body cameras would just randomly pull over, but who knows.
An eye witness claims to have seen the vehicles fill up with gasoline and then get immediately pulled over after they left the gas station. That sounds more likely, but again, I digress. Here’s the MSM version, and keep in mind the issue of ‘probable cause’ seems to be a concern for the police, or at least is the preeminent aspect in the reporting.
MSM – [..] “The situation started around 1:30 a.m., when a state trooper saw two vehicles in the breakdown lane with their hazard lights on, Mason said.
The men claimed to be “from a group that does not recognize our laws,” according to a statement from the Wakefield Police Department.
The trooper on scene requested driver’s licenses and firearms licenses, but the individuals either said they didn’t have them, or didn’t have them in their possession, Mason said.
At some point during this interaction, a number of the individuals ran into the woods with their firearms, Mason said. Police established a perimeter, and two people were initially arrested in the woodline, one of whom was armed, according to Mason.
Massachusetts State Police said in a tweet around 5:30 a.m. that members of the group were “refusing to comply with orders to provide their information and put down their weapons.”
“Through our hostage negotiation team, we are talking with the subjects — some that are in the woods, some that are in the vehicles in the breakdown lane where the original interaction occurred — and we are hopeful that we are able to resolve this peacefully with them,” Mason said during the standoff.
Of the 11 ultimately arrested, two suspects were located in the vehicles, state police said.
The group’s self-professed leader wanted it known that their ideology is not anti-government, Mason said.
“I think the investigation that follows from this interaction will provide us more insight into what their motivation, what their ideology is … Their actions have had a significant impact on the motoring public, particularly because it’s a holiday weekend,” Mason said.
Residents of Wakefield and Reading were urged to shelter in place during the standoff. The shelter in place has since been lifted.
“We will now conduct sweeps of their 2 vehicles and woods,” Massachusetts State Police tweeted.
Kristen Setera, FBI Boston spokeswoman, said the FBI is “fully engaged with our state and local partners.” (link)
Suspicious cat remains, well, suspicious…
Sundance, you obviously haven’t seen all the idiots I have who DO just pull over on the side of the road. Even a busy freeway. Not because they’re broken down. Just to talk. Or get directions. Or take a leak. Or cause a traffic jam for funz! We’re not talking about rational, responsible people here. In Texas it is always a certain culture of people. They have a lot in common with those fellas in the photo. ?
Next time I’m pulled over by a cop I will just tell him that “I don’t recognize your laws,” BWAAAAAAAAHAAAAA!!!!! We’ll see how that goes, ROTFLMAO!!!!! Have a good 4th and be safe.
At least in TEXAS our low water crossings cull some of their herd.?
In all the years in law enforcement perhaps one axiom holds true:. We mostly catch the stupid ones.
Thanks for the good belly laugh! So true.
best way to look at things like this…. is to remember their playbook:
1) build narrative through stage events and media allies
2) demand legislation or something that gives them an advantage
3) create executive orders or memoradums to enforce it against its citizenry.
So when you see the narrative – you know where they are going, and you start preparing.
But these guys are Black or of ME descent. The fact that they were not immediately trashing White guys was proof, then photos finally emerged. If they were framing White guys I’d agree with the narrative engineering angle, but this might be a rare case of the FBI stumbling into a situation and doing the right thing. Unlikely. But possible.
they are probably running out of white guy groups to infiltrate or frame up.
Nope.
Suspicious cat is right.
This is optics.
All for show.
Folks, you really should work hard to pull yourselves away from all MSM narratives.
And what are you talking about, “But these guys are Black or of ME descent”?
Haven’t you figured out yet that Deep State doesn’t give a sh_t about anyone & that they use always race, creed, gender to decide and conquer.?
If the FBI is fully engaged with the state & with the News then it probably means this is fake news.
I agree. “I don’t recognize your laws.” Still LMFAO. I can just imagine the cops reaction, “Well, in that case you can just go. Sorry to have troubled you Mr. Heavily Armed Terrorist.” I can’t stop laughing…
Its interesting that some news reports are running without photos or race identification…so i guess everyone supposed to assume militia is white.
This is their website
https://www.riseofthemoors.org/
I assume that each of these “tests” “events” whatever you call them; are set-up, sustained, and/or funded by any or all of those groups?
Why would I, at this point, not think that?
the FIB did what right?
They’ve been getting criticized for not going after “people of color ” in their supposed hunt for terrorists. That’s why they stopped these guys. These guys are their “token” POC arrests, just to stop the complaints. They’ll probably turn them loose, but they’ve now got one arrest they can point to in defense when it comes up again.
Don’t be fooled. It’s the white guys they’re after, and this was a public ruse. I think the FBI probably came up with the idea.
Whatever happens they lost me at
“Statement by spokeswoman for the FBI” (ouch, no one to trust in that phrase)
And “we’re coordinating with state and local …” (well, I’ve heard enough)
So God knows the truth of any of this from that lot. Disregard until they ask for something so this “crisis doesn’t go to waste.” At that point, just tell them the answer is no. You have enough money and laws for all perps.
No more rights or money need be yanked FROM the citizens for anything.
And as for the fear mongering, thanks, but we’re all full up on that too.
Our border is wide open. Close it and I’m sure we’ll have less gunmen running around the woods claiming they aren’t subject to our laws.
What’s the point of news and feds emphasizing that?
Yeah, YOU are the ones who say if you hate America but are here illegally none of our laws apply.
Moors didn’t create that fiasco. Feds, state, local, UniParty, Bribed-en, crony capitalist slavers are the reasons we are a lawless Banana Republic on life support. Moors and every other criminal are just the lucky beneficiaries. Enjoy the woods, Moors. You’ll find a lot of criminals there with you, a wild roaming Hildebeast being the least pleasant but the most like you.
Are you suggesting that the fbi placed several agents in the group, bought them weapons. Incited their anger, then provided them with a target, drove them to the target just so the fbi could arrest them on the way to the target they provided?
The fbi would never do that!
Unless the fbi intended to let them succeed in their attack. But local law enforcement messed it up for them.
That’s the likely reason. They were going to Maine for “training.” Who is training them in Maine?
Pamela Geller might have something to say about how crooked our FBI is and what they HAVE done to assist terror attacks here in Texas.
https://gellerreport.com/2019/05/garland-isis-attack-fbi.html/
She’s great!
Don’t mess with Texas.
Possibly a ploy to distract us from the obvious infiltration and manipulation of the Oath Keepers on 1/6 at the Capital…
They would; if it was cover for something else?
Except they did nothing wrong.
They are transporting guns over state lines. Massachusetts requires gun licenses to transport guns through there.
Those laws were struck down by SCOTUS long ago.
So SCOTUS struck those laws down. Were they stored properly for transport? Details, details, details. The fibies at work and possibly the locals were more eager or more effective than the feds expected. A deputy was killd initiating a traffic stop in the southwest withe rapidly arriving fed backup after the death. Sad to say Suspicious Cat is on target.
Yup, totally.
Yeah, the big problem with this one: The feds got there right away. Yeah, I’m sure they did indeed. And they’re “coordinating” with Leftwing controlled Taxachusetts cops. I’m sure you are indeed.
Well I’m sorry but no benefit of the doubt here.
You have the whole routine exactly right. Fight everything they try to push with this possible false flag. This one looks aimed at the Right.
Or to remind locals of the Boston marathon bombers they let wreak havoc.
And if not, then tell them just do their job. But the feds got there quickly?
I found the Asian massage parlor killer just cartoonishly unbelievable because they were PUSHING the “Stop Asian Hate” (which did not exist prior) ALL OVER the Left media and big tech including Youtube TWO WEEKS SOLID BEFORE that b.s. Then suddenly the southern, Christian, white male who for some totally believable reason mass murdered nice, quiet Asian hand job girls en masse? Excuse me?
That looked aimed to feed the narrative pumping on the MSDNC Left.
They are doing false flags for different audiences right now. So keep that in mind.
Whatever bill the RINO Unitraitors and satanic Marxists want to join to push over their false flags say no.
Enforce the immigration laws. That’s it. No additional powers.
Quit being a sanctuary state, Taxachusetts. How about that. Do that.
Go after Soros and his rent a mobs, of which this coud be one.
Do your actual job and quit finding ways to attack whites, that’ll free up time for actual threats. If this is one, you have plenty of money for that.
Also, right nearby are federal problems like full on slavery, human trafficking and other crimes against humanity. Hundreds of thousands in that area alone.
How about “coorinating” to close down the sweat shops all around the Boston area that John Kerry ran around protecting screaming “They want to separate women from children” every time his donors were caught enslaving said women in their warehouses.
And if they’re loners we have millions of bigger problems.
Whatever they want “just say no.”
Until these guys work on the slavery and other crimes of immigrants in their jurisdiction they are phonies.
There are whole areas and neighborhoods with trafficking everywhere out in the open plus all those cheating, slaving businesses who support Kerry and the Kennedys. Work on that.
Now maybe if they had brand new TRUMP stickers.
The feds are trying to cover this up. They are the wrong kind of domestic terrorists.
Just to clear something up about the law enforcement contact. The police are only required to have “Reasonable Suspicion” and not Probable Cause, although many people tend to use the terms interchangeably.
Reasonable Suspicion is a level of contact less than Probable Cause and is most notably in the Supreme Court case of Terry v Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968).
In the description above (story) the MSP noticed two vehicles (in the breakdown lane with their flashers on) which is ordinarily not an issue because the police simply inquire if everything is alright, and if it is, then the operator of the vehicle needs to move on-because Breakdown Lanes are not for really anything but vehicles that broke down.
It tends to be loosely enforced, but can be a violation of the law if the police find the operator intoxicated or some other issue. In this case, the officer asked for a driver’s license and then apparently got an argument from the vehicle’s occupants that they did not recognize the laws of the United States or Massachusetts, et al.
Now in addition to the illegal stop in the breakdown lane, the occupants are resistive and can be observed wearing body armor, tactical gear and have firearms. Then some of the vehicle occupants jump out of the vehicles and run into the woods!
So, now the officer is assembling the various building blocks toward Probable Cause, and in this case-most reasonable and prudent people would suspect criminal activity.
But the actual Probable Cause was established when the police officer observed the vehicles in the Breakdown Lane with their flashers on and there was no actual emergency-which is what those lanes are designated for in the traffic code.
Again, what is not being stated clearly is these guys would have likely been on their way if they had cooperated. Law Enforcement Officers act and react to a person’s BEHAVIOR. When the individual’s or group’s behavior is amiss, then it raises suspicion and leads very quickly to probable cause.
the good part. is the catering to blacks has allowed this situation to occur and the capitol shooter to be a vulnerability for Pelosi.
the article brought up the FBI being a spokesman in this, providing info. – seems to imply the cops didnt stumble upon the car being broken down.
Thank you for a very good explanation.
Ted, technically you may be correct. However, the egregious violations of every driving standard that occurs around large cities are proof that this low bar of reasonable suspicion is, in fact, total b.s.
Reasonable suspicion is whatever the popo wants it to be at any given time.
In the end, the police had NO reason to detain these people. They may have been suspicious, but that is not a crime.
The State Police claim that were carrying rifles when they ran into the woods, open carry is illegal in Ma.
I’d say that they passed the reasonable suspicion threshold doing 120mph!
Respectfully, Reasonable Suspicion is articulable facts and circumstances that would lead a reasonable, trained, and experienced law enforcement officer to believe there is criminal activity.
The Terry v Ohio standard was based exactly on a police officer who observed two persons walking back and forth from an ally to the front of a store and looking through the front store windows. That person would return to the ally and the second individual would come out by the store front and look in the windows and then return to the ally.
The police officer knew from his own experience that persons who tend to behave in this manner are “casing” a location before committing a robbery. The police officer intercepted the individuals and a subsequent “pat down” search for the police officer’s safety yielded each with a firearm. Subsequent investigation indicated both men had previous criminal histories for armed robbery.
The Probable Cause was already established-within the police officer’s discretion-by the facts and circumstances of the vehicles being stopped-illegally-in the Break Down Lane.
It was already a violation of the law on its face-BEFORE ANYTHING ELSE. As the police officer spoke with the driver and quickly found out there was No Vehicle break down, facts and circumstances continued to ADD to what the officer saw and heard.
Those facts and circumstances included two vehicles of observable persons wearing tactical gear, body armor, and appearing to be armed. Add to this was the statements made by one or more subjects where they stated they did not recognize any authority of the laws of the United States, among other states.
Facts and circumstances quickly added to the overall scene when several of those persons in the vehicles got out-armed-and ran off into the nearby woods.
Had the officer done nothing, as some might imply, how would the public have been served if these two vehicles proceeded to a location and committed violence-such as shooting up a club or a stadium, or a shopping mall, or a school-or whatever.
Again, the key is if the driver simply complied with a few questions, in all likelihood they would have been asked to simply proceed down the highway since stopping in a Break Down Lane can be an avoidable traffic hazard to the motoring public. If they were tired, the officer might have informed them of a rest area or some hotels up the road a few miles.
Ted, thank you. My suspicions on this case ran the other way but your reasoning has been most informative.
You mean we actually have laws and a constitution in the U.S.? That’s news to me.
they (this occupational regime) seems to just make up royal decrees.
So they can go and follow the LAWS on the books and detain, deport, arrest or whatever.
If they want anything else, the whole thing is b.s. and a scam.
And if they don’t do their job, and just unleash these people back on the public knowing they are dangerous then time to pare down our useless overlapping agencies.
You don’t need fed agencies and the state police “coordinating” for this unless they arrest and/or move to deport.
I wouldn’t give them any benefit of the doubt given their selective enforcement of the laws.
Ted, I’m not referring to this incident but Terry stops in general.
I think it’s beyond time to reign in Terry stops. Why? Because they have cast too wide of a net and rely on the human judgment of those constantly looking for reasonable suspicion. If a cop feels suspicious then it’s considered reasonable by prosecutors.
Look how far the Terry decision has been stretched from its original ruling. How, anyone sitting in their car in a parking lot or even those working overtime in their own business can and will be considered suspicious persons.
Maybe you can explain how it was ok to consider this man a target of a Terry stop.
Or maybe you want to respond abusive police stops under pretext to induce a Terry stop and search.
Abusive Terry stops are essentially being used to strip our rights under the first, second, fourth and fifth amendments of the Consitution. Unless of course you know how to defend those rights.
Refusing to provide Drivers License, registration and insurance while operating a vehicle is a crime…
Refusing to provide firearm information and crossing state lines without required documentation is a crime..
Running into the woods is attempting to allude a police officer…and possibly resisting arrest…
I can say, if these guys had been white and from GEORGIA…they would have called in Seal Team 6 and a fleet of Black Hawks…
no need to have papers to cross state lines with firearms people fly around the country every day with firearms and other than declaring that there are no firearms loaded there is no documentation required. not to mention people driving everyday for hunting, personal defense , target shooting and just for the helluvit across state lines with no need for required “firearm information”
Tell us Councilor; does that “everybody does it” defense win many cases for you?
I was taught from an early age to be respectful of LEOs and show that respect.
You only get in trouble with them if you give them trouble.
It is not the responsibility of you or I to make things easy for the police.
“A reasonably articulable suspicion!? That makes my job difficult!”
If you want the police to determine their own limits you have paved the road to a police state.
Always be suspicious of those who have been given authority over your life, liberty and property. The Founding Fathers were similarly skeptical and the Republic we celebrate on July 4th was the result.
Respectfully, the burden to demonstrate Reasonable Suspicion or the higher standard of Probable Cause IS ALWAYS on the Law Enforcement Officer.
Articulable simply means the police officer has to clearly explain the facts and circumstances as observed at the time of the contact or the offense.
You are correct to be skeptical of government intrusion and heavy handedness, but remember, the best course of action (war footing is exempted) is to comply with the officer.
Arguments can be taken up later via complaint to the agency, your attorney, or in the court. When a person thinks the police have no right to stop them and now he is going to resist and flee, he only adds to whatever trouble he may have had coming, if any.
The unknown factor unknown to the person being stopped is you do not know if another party has described you or your vehicle as at the scene of a major crime. If you are innocent, compliance is likely to get everything straightened out in a matter of several minutes, sometimes more, sometimes less time delay.
If you are part of a crime, compliance is still the best course of action because additional criminal acts will only become an aggravating factor later to the courts, if the situation does not become one of deadly force use.
I see some posters focused on the race, religion, and maybe ideology of the suspects. I’d like to see dash cam and body cam footage. If the police were screwing these guys over, you better believe they’d do it to us even harder.
as a former LEO. I agree with your first statement, but not the latter , don’t talk to the police they’re not your buddy, they’re not your friend , they’re not trying to get you out of trouble. You have the right to remain silent. I suggest you exercise that right. I’ve seen good people get in trouble.
Put that in your 302.
I don’t answer questions.
Islam is antithetical to our Republic and our Constitution because its ideology, which is not a real religion, denies the lawful status of our Constitution proving they are a permanent threat. The lawful, sane remedy is to deport all muslims and prevent any from entering, but that won’t happen. We are left with few options because one day, they will rise up against us and the result will not be pretty.
But…but…islam has been part of our nation’s diverse tapestry since…uh…uh.., well Erdogan sez that Ottomans landed in Cuba in 1330s and built that mosque…. you know, the one Columbus saw….or the rock that looked like one…whatever…
Finally, a man who knows his history!
Islam has been part of our history ever since Thomas Jefferson sent US Marines on a punitive expedition to Tripoli. ?
Citzenship and political office were denied Muslims until 1959…for a reason…a good reason..
The litany of Biden misery is about to get even longer. We are going to have a mohammedan Intifadeh on our soil, with bombings and rocket attacks and murders here the way they do it in Israel. This was probably begun with the connivance of the illegitimate Chinese puppet regime, as it will further distract public attention from the forthcoming revelation that the 2020 election was indeed stolen and will keep our eyes off the coming mass roundups and arrests of “white supremacists” and “domestic terrorists”. It is increasingly clear that it is Franco and Pinochet time in the dying First American Republic.
This is why the demoncrats want us to give up our Constitutional right to keep and carry arms.
He meant we NEED a Franco or Pinochet to save America!
I wish Pres. Trump sent in troops to dismantle and arrest everyone in “Islamberg”, NY. I mean, it’s like having an SS Panzer division training in Illinois during WWII!!
We did NOT learn a darn thing from 9/11.
The MSM (again) never alludes to ANY mention of what background religion these Moops are. Just like just giving the name of Awad as the stabber of the Rabbi in Boston….but not inferring anything to do with his surname might be a common islamic name..(just like the Pakis who hacked our Congressional computers and GOT AWAY WITH IT thanks to Debbie Wasserman-Schitz)
Part of the modus operandi of this group is to appear intimidating and trigger a response from mainstream Americans, but stay technically within the law and then scream racism.
Same tactic is used by BLM when they interrupt and start screaming at people trying to enjoy a meal in a restaurant just hoping someone will take a swing at them.
Unfortunately for these Moorons, they apparently didn’t do their homework and took a legitimate hit.
The main takeaway for me is that this is all is part of the resurgence of Militant Black Separatism and falls into the same category as BLM & CRT in that they reject the principals of our country’s founding and the values that made our country great. The fact that it is happening now, of course, is NOT a coincidence.
Whether this is the result of an overall increase in the leftist media’s agitation or part of a surreptitious government operation is anyone’s guess.
Marxists view street violence or the threat thereof as a political tool.
There are a lot of tools out there.
The beauty of this is that it pits the agenda of the left against itself; anti-2A but by persons of special status.
I still don’t know if this is intentional provocation, an FIB slip-up, or a bumbling state trooper….
I do however, find the questions brought out of this event to be very interesting.
SO…now they are no long black…they are Moors…
We went from Negros to African American, to blacks to….____________((fill in the blank)) to Moors.
Sheesh…..what’s next???
In Shakespearean times–blacks were called Moors–like in Sheakespeare’s play “Othello the Moor.” There were 2 kinds of Moors described: “Blackamoors” and “Tawnymoors.” Tawnymoors were Moors who were “yellow-brownish” in color.
richie blackamoor??
The Moors were Muslims from Northern Africa. Their skin tone varied according to their percentage of Arab lineage. The Moors were expelled from most of Spain by Isabella and Ferdinand, one generation before Shakespeare.
Hopefully, migrants leaving the US…..
It’s nothing new. Muslims of black ancestry in the North Africa region have been refered to as Moors for centuries. What was long refered to as the Negro were the blacks from the sub-Sahara part of the continent. Different terminology is appropriate to reflect the cultural differences.
The term “negro” is a nonsense adjective used casually by Spanish sailors as they met Africans from West Africa on Africa’s West coast. “Negro” simply means “black” in Spanish.
In ancient times Africans were descibed by outsiders as ”Ethiopian” or “Moor”. In the Bible Africans/blacks are referred to as Ethiopian or people from the land of Ham.
The Ancient Greeks referred to Africans from Ancient Egypt and Nubia as “melanchros” –meaning “black.”
“Today’s history books may refer to those who terrorized Christian Europe as Arabs, Saracens, Moors, Ottomans, Turks, Mongols, or Tatars[1]—but all were operating under the same banner of jihad that the Islamic State is operating under.
No, today, the ultimate enemy is within. The root cause behind the nonstop Muslim terrorization of the West is found in those who stifle or whitewash all talk and examination of Muslim doctrine and history”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/12/raymond-ibrahim-islamic-jihad-symptom-of-a-western-cause
POC
About a month ago Alison Morrow reported on a New Mexico LEO who was tasked with pulling over a known heavily armed drug distributor.
Thje FBI, DEA, and who knows how many other alphabet agencies sat 30 seconds behind and watched as the New Mexico LEO was murdered in broad daylight in front of them.
The vid is still up on Rumble; Bannon had Alison on his show and that vid is still up on Rumble.
What was the FBI hoping to happen here?
I think that one was just a normal every-day FIB screw-up. Nothing special, policies will be reviewed.
It was just on June 22 that a “Moor” from LA, Hubert Johns, barged into a lady’s Newark, NJ apartment and claimed it as an ancestral home as a Al Moroccan!!
Geert Wilders was correct (and for which he was indicted in a hate speech witch hunt for this cogent statement he made a political rally), and I will paraphrase him; “We need FEWER Moors!!”
Remember, it was bat-poop crazy “Black Israelites” band of racist loonies who were taunting Nick Sanderman’s highschool classmates while they were waiting for the bus to take them back to their homestate. These Moors are similar brand of idiots but are muslim and who preach using the old rhetorical trick of the Black Israelites; screaming obscenities as citizens on the sidewalk and wearing fake costumes from a defunct theatre costume shop.
I saw that video. It was extremely hard to watch.
No mystery. Massachusetts is INCREDIBLY anal about firearms. So if someone saw their firearms and called the cops, or the cops saw the weapons themselves, they’re going down, no questions asked.
Exactly! Also true that a judge will let them off the hook, they won’t serve any time in prison.
How many people have done the year in jail for carrying without a permit?
I believe Mass has a no question mandatory one year sentence for anyone caught with a firearm in their possession without a Mass approved permit. In that case, if the officer stopped to see if they needed help and when he got to the window saw firearms, he had to request to see their permits and identification. I suspect they knew the law and that is why they ran into the woods.
Can’t help but wonder how long before some of the liberal politicians step in to defend them, especially people like Ilhan Omar or even Harris. Then what about BLM???
Ayanna Presley of the squad will help them get out of jail
I had the displeasure of sitting in the 128 back up for well over an hour along with likely many thousands of other vehicles. Can’t we charge someone with a carbon abuse fee?
Send that BS back to the sand box.
I don’t care where they were born, we don’t need that nonsense.
Still luv that “suspicious cat”!
This isn’t just some civilian peacefully carrying
Not saying they are bad, but they aren’t citizens by their own declaration. They don’t get a pass by me.
I am impressed that they did not get lost driving up through Boston with its confusing highway system and bad turnoffs and splits in the middle of the night.
That gear is expensive. They are obviously unemployable. Where did they get the money for that stuff?????
From you.
Did the fbi provide the gear?
TeeHeeHee
If this is an actual photo of someone from that group… Imagine the froth the ‘legacy press’ would be in right now if the skin color of the perp was WHITE and they would have been described as ‘members of a white supremacist group’!!
From local reports here in New England, specifically, The Providence Journal, citing a report from a Boston news station:
According to a report from WCVB, a Massachusetts state trooper spotted two vehicles in the breakdown lane of the interstate around 1:30 a.m. and stopped to offer assistance to the motorists.
What the trooper found, Mason, told the TV station, was 8 to 10 men trying to refuel a vehicle. The men were wearing tactical-style gear and armed with both rifles and pistols, Mason stated.
https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/crime/2021/07/03/standoff-massachusetts-police-i-95-rt-128-wakefield-reading-traveling-rhode-island-to-maine/7851457002/
Nowhere in any coverage I’ve seen (including this account) mentions “Moors” or “Muslim.” Only “heavily armed men who do not recognize our laws.”
We’re supposed to think they are Trump supporters.
Here’s an article about this group from 2019:
‘Moorish American’ group: Providence police tried to raid our temple
https://www.providencejournal.com/article/20191012/NEWS/191019801
is that a car air freshener on the bottom right of this image? Tuff Guy! LOL
Testing response time may have a bigger plan on the books this was pratice.
Maybe these guys can help us take our country back.
The card says Mooks.
What would be surprising about the LEO approaching these people? When I ran out of gas on the highway years ago, an LEO mildly questioned me while I was re-fueling. When I had a flat tire, I had LEO stop and talk. They are doing constant surveillance. No big deal for most of us.
The “papers please” snark is silly.
Rhode Island’s founder, Roger Williams, also did not recognize the right of the English Crown to legislate or give away land in the New World. So not unusual for Rhode Island.
I wonder if they are rehearsing re-enactment of famous Moorish battles, such as the one with the U.S. Marine Corps in Tripoli in 1805. They lost
Well, this Mainer would like to thank the Mass troopers for stopping them there. We may have open carry here, but we frown on people as stupid as this caravan having weapons without supervision. Further, while they don’t feel they have to obey laws, they sure demand everyone else follows the letter of the law. If they don’t recognize the rights of us, then they should not depend on our rights.
“Further, while they don’t feel they have to obey laws, they sure demand everyone else follows the letter of the law.….If they don’t recognize the rights of us, then they should not depend on our rights.”
Thank You. That sums it up succinctly.
They do not recognize our laws but question the probable cause.
Yes, the signs stating it’s illegal to purchase fireworks and threatening arrest are up and running per usual. Pass one every morning on the way to work.
In the meantime, in my town, you also see sign carriers on the side of the road advertising fireworks for sale – in RI. I live close to RI.
Sundance, what are the odds that one of these guys will not be charged? There must be at least one FBI informant in the group. That is probably the true reason they were pulled over.
The next-level ann teepha.
Brought to you by puppetmasters of little puppet Kris W ray.
Someone called them in from the gas station for looking a bit military in appearance then LE got full chubbs thinking they had Whitey Maga in their sights. Then doncha know it they were the opposite. LOL.
LE had intel on this sect or set this up to foreshadow/ condition normies to another larger upcoming FF – involving actual gunplay.
Something ain’t right here.
Apologies for not providing link, but what about the woman in Newark whose home was taken over by a Moor? That was given on my phone as “you may find this interesting.” There is def push against this group by someone….
Technically, the law favors the police to an inordinate level regarding motor vehicle stops. All an officer needs to justify stopping a vehicle is “reasonable suspicion” not “probable cause”. Multiple men in a car with out of state plates is literally enough reasonable suspicion they need to stop someone.
The “Rise Of The Moors”leader insist they’re not sovereign citizens, they just look like sovereign citizens, walk like sovereign citizens, and quack like sovereign citizens.
Maybe at some point, I am hoping that people start questioning the official narrative about 9/11/2001 as well…
. I think that the Deep State knew about the 9/11 attacks before hand as well and did nothing to stop it.God knows if they incited the hijackers as well.
The role of corrupt criminals Brennan and Mueller in the entire scheme of things needs to be exposed
https://patriotssoapbox.com/opinion/did-robert-mueller-help-cover-up-saudi-arabias-role-in-9-11-attacks/
The FBI is a corrupt to the core, criminal organization….Period.
The cop killer in Florida was caught in a Georgia camp with these types of valedictorians.
With the gun laws in mass these jokers should be in jail for the next 35-45 years /s
Tell me again about White Nationalist Extremism being the number one threat to America.
I know why Moors are being pushed at us. Bc whites vs blacks isn’t working. Conservatives of all types like one another…oops. So this is race war instigated by feds 2.0. Trying to stir us up. Like saying ‘picnic’ is racist bc whites used to picnic at lynchings, which by definition is an impossibility. Picnics at public hangings for all criminals happened I think, but that wasn’t about race; more like the same who are crazy today and like to watch suffering. Lyncings? Violent vigilantes and picnics. No wonder they are destroying dictionaries.
Next round of media releases will establish that this “group” has ties to the MAGA movement.
Read below the article regarding the missing information on this recent incident. I watched a short CBS news clip of this incident. Any film of members of this militia group was conveniently “missing.” from the news feed. Once again the MSM misleads the viewer.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/07/11_heavily_armed_members_of_an_extremist_militia_group_arrested_media_buries_mention_that_they_are_black.html
Small cell of militants – going to train? Train for what? The FBI was right there in the middle of the night – hmmmm! How many more cells are there – they want to provoke us, remain peaceful.
Stupid is as stupid does. The white supremacist talking points just took a blow to the body on this brouhaha. I read in another account that their weapons were visible along the highway, quien sabe? When I cross state lines that do not recognize AZ carry permits, my weapon(s) are secured as demanded by that state’s laws or I do not cause any traffic moving violations that would allow the local gendarmes to pull me over for a traffic stop. Showing weapons along the highway is just asking for trouble. The days of having my rifle or shotgun across the back window of my truck are gone, if you are carrying keep it hidden.
This sounds like the Hatari people here in southern Michigan, which Obama’s DoJ honeypotted and used informants to infiltrate. Hatari was just some guys on bar stools talking trash, while this moorish group may be more organized. However, the ever present entrapment and infiltration of the FBI does make one suspicious of exactly what it is we’re looking at here. The old saw in the mid 20th century KKK was that KKK meetings had more FBI attendance than anything. So let’s wait. Entrapment is a fav government tactic, and they attempt it all the time. It goes hand in hand with their illegal surveillance and data usage. Put that all together and you have a weapon to use on your enemies, as they did with Trump and the Pentagon contractors they used to try to entrap Pop and Page.
It was a beautiful thing, the way Pop didn’t cross the US border with the $10k they were trying to entrap him with. It shows he was aware of the law and the enemy, a guy wise beyond his years. Too bad we haven’t gotten to the root of that criminality, that tried to entrap him.
When I saw the initial news report I figured they were not white since we all know if they were white it would have been a whole of different coverage .this will not make national and now we know they are black muzzles surprise. Of course if these pawns had been used in some form of terrorist act AKA false flag the fbi would be front and center bragging they had them on their radar.
I am so glad I moved out of the cesspool called Massachusetts.
Just think, if they hadn’t stopped to refuel we wouldn’t even know their was an armed group of moors who don’t believe in our laws.
Maybe they were some of those white extremist we’ve been warned about by our current DOJ…You know, “Uncle Tom’s” disguising as black radicals in reality aiding the white extremists….Has to be cause there’s no black extremist groups in this country right?…Only white extremists.
I looked up MA gun laws. It is unlawful to transport guns in MA without a MA gun license.
This group also has a facebook page. Zuckerberg seems to have no problem with these domestic terrorists. The FBI and DOJ also seems to be all right with this type of domestic terrorist. They actually don’t recognize this country, unlike Trump supporters.
I live not too far from the encounter, and this is the first I’ve heard of them. Yet the SPLC description of them is referenced in many of the msm versions of the story without a link. So despite not trusting them, here is a link to their description which is more comprehensive than I might have guessed. But that suggests to me they have already been infiltrated and that the local encounter was random. The YouTube videos have already been yanked but in them their leader said they were filling up the gas tanks on the side of the road to avoid using a gas station, which seems odd to me
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/moorish-sovereign-citizens
A piece of advice; go to the “Moors” website and read what they believe. This bunch has no business running around America with tactical gear, rifles and pistols. They were allegedly going to Maine to train. What were they training for? My guess, nothing good. They’re anti-American black nationalists and I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.
Moors, said bubble boy.
Nope, Moops, said George Costanza.
Moorish insurgents…really?
Brought to you by the makers of Kwanzaa, perhaps?
And now we know why there were no names or pictures in the propaganda outlet reports on this situation.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/07/04/metro/mother-wakefield-standoff-suspect-there-is-no-ill-will-his-heart/?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Afacebook
There is still no evidence of what is being charged in the press.