The “Rise of the Moors” group, is a Muslim faction of U.S. citizens who do not recognize America as a valid, independent or authentic nation [Website Here]. As a result they do not consider themselves aligned with the citizenship of the U.S. as a sovereign state. Instead they perceive their homeland as “the Maghreb Al Aqsa (America – Morocco the most extreme west)”.
Last night at approximately 2:00am ET Massachusetts state police pulled over two vehicles containing 8-10 heavily armed members of the Moor group as they were heading to a training exercise. After several members of the group refused to comply with “papers please“, a stand-off began. [Insert suspicious cat considering the absence of ‘probable cause’ here.] Some of the Moors ran into the neighboring woods. The police set up a perimeter. After the stand-off was resolved (took all night and morning), some of the Moors were arrested [2 pictured Below].
The version of events from local Massachusetts law enforcement is:
“The Wakefield Police Department is assisting the Massachusetts State Police with a dangerous incident on Route 128 Northbound in the area of Parker Road.
During a motor vehicle stop, several heavily armed men claiming to be from a group that does not recognize our laws exited their vehicles and fled into the woodline off 128 in the area of Parker Road / Elm Street. Approximately 8 males fled into the woods carrying rifles and handguns and appear to be contained in the wooded area adjacent to the highway. No threats were made, but these men should be considered armed and dangerous.” (read more)
It would appear the issue of ‘probable cause‘ for the original stop is part of the issue being avoided by law enforcement (and media). The men were armed, but had broken no laws and were legally transiting between their home in Rhode Island to another location. Unfortunately, the media reporting aligns with the obfuscated descriptions from law enforcement and , wait for it,… the FBI: “Kristen Setera, FBI Boston spokeswoman, said the FBI is “fully engaged with our state and local partners.” (link)
The police are saying the cars were pulled over in the emergency lane with their hazard lights flashing when the trooper arrived at 1:30am. I would consider that explanation suspect, unless the guys pulled over because they needed to pee. I doubt a convoy of heavily armed men in tactical gear wearing body cameras would just randomly pull over, but who knows.
An eye witness claims to have seen the vehicles fill up with gasoline and then get immediately pulled over after they left the gas station. That sounds more likely, but again, I digress. Here’s the MSM version, and keep in mind the issue of ‘probable cause’ seems to be a concern for the police, or at least is the preeminent aspect in the reporting.
MSM – [..] “The situation started around 1:30 a.m., when a state trooper saw two vehicles in the breakdown lane with their hazard lights on, Mason said.
The men claimed to be “from a group that does not recognize our laws,” according to a statement from the Wakefield Police Department.
The trooper on scene requested driver’s licenses and firearms licenses, but the individuals either said they didn’t have them, or didn’t have them in their possession, Mason said.
At some point during this interaction, a number of the individuals ran into the woods with their firearms, Mason said. Police established a perimeter, and two people were initially arrested in the woodline, one of whom was armed, according to Mason.
Massachusetts State Police said in a tweet around 5:30 a.m. that members of the group were “refusing to comply with orders to provide their information and put down their weapons.”
“Through our hostage negotiation team, we are talking with the subjects — some that are in the woods, some that are in the vehicles in the breakdown lane where the original interaction occurred — and we are hopeful that we are able to resolve this peacefully with them,” Mason said during the standoff.
Of the 11 ultimately arrested, two suspects were located in the vehicles, state police said.
The group’s self-professed leader wanted it known that their ideology is not anti-government, Mason said.
“I think the investigation that follows from this interaction will provide us more insight into what their motivation, what their ideology is … Their actions have had a significant impact on the motoring public, particularly because it’s a holiday weekend,” Mason said.
Residents of Wakefield and Reading were urged to shelter in place during the standoff. The shelter in place has since been lifted.
“We will now conduct sweeps of their 2 vehicles and woods,” Massachusetts State Police tweeted.
Kristen Setera, FBI Boston spokeswoman, said the FBI is “fully engaged with our state and local partners.” (link)
Suspicious cat remains, well, suspicious…
Someone posted elsewhere: “ I can’t decide who I am supposed to trust the least—or fear the most.”
Borrowing that line, BJ! 🙂
Be my guest, my friend. I can’t take credit for writing it, only sharing it. ?
I’m curious where their “training grounds” in Maine are located.
Comments at that link>>> people wondering why they had to stop in Mass. for gas cuz you can “easily drive to ME. from R.I.” on a tank of gas.
FYI>>> People in R.I. cross into Mass. for things ALL the time. Taxes may be different, rules (ie. liquor, etc) may be different.
>>> If gas is cheaper in MA., why would you fill up in R.I.?
Jamal actually addresses this directly on the livestreams that he uploaded to his YouTube account between around 2am to 7am.
Here’s the 1st of 3 livestreams:
https://youtu.be/rbRS5uV5gxM
They had multiple gas cans onboard to avoid any unnecessary stops while traveling interstate from their origin (RI) to their final destination (ME).
They were not buying gas in MA. They were filling up using cans they had onboard. They felt this would make them legal by complying with the SC case they talked about (peaceful journey thru states without making unnecessary stops). Whether or not they are correct about the case they cited, they definitely acknowledge they were filling up with gas they already had in their vehicle.
With that background, it does beg the question: why would they need to refill in MA after such a short journey (assuming they did start in RI and they started with a full tank of gas)?
If they didn’t have a full tank of gas at the start of the journey, what’s the point of carrying extra gas for the stated purpose of planning to avoid unnecessary stops?
I’ve seen others ask this question and it does seem like a valid question for sure.
I have an interesting detail to tell suspicious cat!
If you look at the top photo, which is a side view of the older, MSP lead officer standing before the microphones. You can also see a much younger MSP officer standing off to the side on the right. Neither of these two are wearing pants that come close to fitting them. The lead officer’s pants are way too big, like suit pants that need tailoring. The younger guy’s pants are way too small, like he’s modeling briefs! Might the FBI have been inserted into MSP because of jurisdictional issues??
One thing I know, it’s not comfortable day-in-and-day out to wear such clothing, and as everyone knows, these days, clothing sizes mean next to nothing, and are specific to the brand.
I know, I know, suspicious cat. I’ll try harder next time!
PS Re the related videos I’ve seen, it all looks worthy of a good high school play.
Is DOJ merely fishing for a legal ruling on whether FBI can arrest anyone who does not believe in our laws, and without probable cause? If so Schumer and Pelosi could be arrested for not believing in the highest law of the land!
correction: officers in question are Wakefield police, not MSP! But don’t tell suspicious cat; he’ll be suspicious of me!
—-Is DOJ merely fishing for a legal ruling on whether FBI can arrest anyone who does not believe in our laws, and without probable cause? “—-
I was thinking the same thing…
It rings and rings then goes to an automated message that says this number is not available, please leave msg at the beep
Note: These “Rise of the Moors” are NOT immigrants or illegals. They’re African Americans. From the SPLC (!) description:
“Moorish sovereigns espouse an interpretation of sovereign doctrine that African Americans constitute an elite class within American society with special rights and privileges that convey on them a sovereign immunity placing them beyond federal and state authority.”
Just another version of “sovereign citizen”. This is what happens when the government is exceedingly corrupt and everyone knows it. Groups form and determine to set their own course outside the existing law because justice does not exist.
This.
Moors = Muslims
Moors= people of Arab, Spanish, and Berber admixture. Yes, their religion is usually Muslim. They are not black. “Black” is a layman’s term for the peoples of Sub-Saharan Africa, which the Moors are not.
Weird stuff: That guy seems more like a negotiator than the negotiator. He’s calm / focused which seems strange considering. He speaks w/o accent so was he raised in the US? He seems more like the see eye aa spy-type I see in the movies.
Another video…
“I’ve expressed to you multiple times we are not anti-government.”
if we are in control of the government …
And White Supremist Terrorist are SO the problem in America right now.
Jihadist oriented immigrants green card holders and “citizens” should be scrutinized for immigration fraud and shipped back where appropriate. Totally incompatible with our Constitution, known since Thomas Jefferson’s analysis.
They are precisely the people the left and RINOs want to import in numbers large enough to nullify your vote.
like Europe
So right! This is the key to being American. Respect our Constitution or return to your country of origin or go to a country and practice your laws where this is allowed!
This should apply to those streaming over the borders freely, as well!
Recall the recentmurder of the New Mexico state cop where inter agency communication looks to have broken down. The stop “method of operation” (MO) appears to be the same: Find some cause to pull over (the excuse) the vehicle(s) for further investigation, etc. Could be very weak…but only here, on this website, do we have presented the name of this group, as yet not fully certified yet the credibility of this site far surpasses so many others, I will go with the name of this group and that they are muslims.
Yea, that’s right, muslims practice a religion of peace while they carry weapons, etc. to some point for some reason…
I was just thinking about that NM cop whom the FBI setup to be murdered. They’ll lie to courts to frame a president, they’ll setup cops to be murdered, I would be surprised if this wasn’t a setup too.
Bingo
We’ve all heard the expression, “You can indict a ham sandwich!” Well, the po-po can pull over ANYONE and make up probable cause.
A personal anecdote…..
Over 20 years ago, I was visiting my brother and sister-in-law in SF to attend a baby shower / party for their soon-to-be first born. The evening before the party, me, my brother and a couple of his friends decided to do a Boys night out and went across the Bridge to Marin County to a jazz club. We were there maybe three hours and although we imbibed, my brother–who was driving, but also on the wagon in solidarity with his very expectant wife–did not partake of any alcohol.
On our way back, a local sheriff’s deputy ( a real hottie) stopped us because—wait for it–she observed my brother driving “in a serpentine manner”. No, she did not observe any such thing. What she did was profile us (four adult males in a late model BMW). Given the upper scale makeup of Marin County, our “profile” did not meet the accepted demographic criteria and we were pulled over for a made up observation.
The po-po can–and do–pull anyone over for anything at any time. And once they pull you over, a wrong response to their questions, or a sour attitude will further their interest and their reason to continue probing–including asking (or ordering) you to step out of your car.
Your story hits home Maximus.
About 15 years ago one of my sons and a friend of his was driving home from high school in my sons older pickup.
A Colo Highway patrol pulled them over on one of the very rural dirt roads that they had to drive on to get home.
Her excuse was “They looked like they were in trouble”.
Really, you can turn on the lights and siren on a rural back road when someone looks like they are in trouble and pull them over?
That was a new one for us.
And I have family LEOs so I do have a bit of respect for the good ones.
But the bad ones can be very bad and a real nightmare for citizens.
And then there’s this:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/01/fbi-confirms-existence-of-jihad-training-camps-in-rural-america
And this:
https://www.judicialwatch.org/corruption-chronicles/u-s-mosques-preach-jihad-america/
And honor killings and Islamists in our government and on and on and on…
Precisely
but “muh white nationalists” !
BTW:
This has nothing to do with this story, but what ever happened to the black man who who was pictured kneeling on a white baby’s neck? The name was Isaiah Jackson and he was held in Clark County, Ohio. Was there ever a trial or a sentence???
https://nypost.com/2020/07/23/ohio-man-seen-kneeling-on-2-year-old-boys-neck-arrested/
Good question – will have to ask the next drunken train engineer I come across.
Laughable but “Snopes” changed their fact check about this story to ‘true’ only after he plead guilty to 3rd degree abduction and was sentenced to probation.
Thanks! can you send me a link to the story?
Wait, I got it. I’ve been googling for months and got nothing.
“ Jackson pleaded guilty, and on Oct. 30, 2020, Judge Douglas Rastatter sentenced him to serve 101 days in prison, as well as three years of community control probation. Since Jackson had already been in prison for 101 days between July and October 2020, he was released on probation on Oct. 30, 2020.”
Many neocons are going to have a hard time with this situation… Armed Muslims will be their hangup.
If you don’t support liberty for all you are no friend of liberty.
Sundance is correct to focus on the issue at hand and not race, creed or color. (Even if we disagree with them) probable cause is probable cause period!
Flip side… OPSEC… Because exposing yourself wearing tactical garb in public today is just retarded! Store your gear, use it appropriately!
These “individuals” took root in Taxachusetts? With some of the most onerous restrictions on the Citizens’ right to self-defense?
Hmmm..
From what I remember of the Noth Shoah, one could “locate” about 40 miles north, and be in “Cow Hampsha” and suffer myriad fewer edicts and scrutiny?
The f.b.i. ? How predictable..
Suspicious indeed…..
skipper
They were going from Rhode Island to Maine, according to current narrative.
keeler,
Copy that. I stand corrected. Even Rhode Island is less prohibitive (not by much) than Mass. And their destination is one of very few states up there that actually represent some sanity in their approach to 2A.
Yeah, I can see being on 128 through there, to get to 95N, and once in NH, the laws definitely loosen, but why go mobile in your gear? It would seem to me that even an innocuous trip to “train” (In the wee hours?) somewhere (maybe 200 miles away?), would allow for a bag, containing a CHANGE OF “ATTIRE”?
Nah, this stinks on ice. I won’t be surprised if this is a bright shiny object.
skipper
Oh it stinks all right, see my expanded thoughts below.
Their reported behavior does not square with their reported motive. Being geared up and trying to avoid gas stations suggests an imperative greater than wishing to get to training.
Too bad they are not white, with bushy beards, American flags, and playing the national anthem. If that was the case- all live tv would of stopped and this would be breaking all weekend cuz white supremacy and MAGA.
Dwayne Diesel,
It’s only Saturday…
Best,
skipper
They aren’t white and they didn’t seditiously invade the capitol, but do they identify as white, and were they training for a coup? Inquiring minds want to know.
George Costanza has also tipped off the FBI to the rise of the Moops.
Watch for it, a search of the suspects’ headquarters revealed a commercial quantity of “Moors for Trump” hats.
The religion of peace. s/
Pieces . . .
No mention in the linked article of the group’s religious or national affiliations. However, it is strongly implied this is an anti-government (aka right-wing) group, even though the article specifically states they are not “anti-government.”
Yet these men belong to a group that does not recognize the government of the United States, something which cannot be pointed out because it reveals the politically inconvenient nature of their anti-government beliefs.
They are “anti-government” but not “anti-government” because their beliefs do not come in the preferred “domestic terrorist” flavor. Some nice double-think.
My favorite comment from the citizens free press thread today:
“These are not the extremists you are looking for.”
Perhaps they believe in their religion and so do not believe in man made government? But why the guns and a training exercise. For what purpose?
The statement about their lack of support for the US government does kind of stand out doesn’t it keeler.
People can argue whether these guys are black or not, or what “Moor” in their name means or does not mean but they do say they are not under the constraint of the US government but then they seem to want to make the cops function by the state laws of the land.
Go figure.
Were there 11 men with weapons in only the 2 vehicles? Or were other vehicles tracked down and stopped?
They were pretty packed in these two vehicles and wearing all of that gear and carrying all of the weapons “tktk”.
Perhaps their group is on a tight budget and they needed to practice thriftiness.
Gas is pretty expensive for all of us now days.
Imagine if you will…..
11 white men armed with rifles and handguns…..
exiting vehicles and running into the woods….
with no shots fired at them.
They shot Ashley Babbitt, an unarmed woman. They have about 500 people held without bail in solitary for dubious charges. In your scenario it would be a blood bath.
Imagine a bunch of white men belonging to a “Rise of Saxons” group, armed with rifles and handguns, clad in fatigues and body armor, traveling across multiple state lines in the middle of the night to attend “training,” 48 hours before the one of the biggest holidays in Islam, and the law enforcement claiming they are not “anti-government” and have no clear motives after these men are stopped, flee the scene, and become engaged in a standoff.
Waco?
How about a group called “Rise of American Patriots” keeler.
None of those guys would have come out of this alive.
You mean like one moron and 10 FBI informants?
I don’t know about that. Unless being a moron is the qualification for FIB consultants. If they started in Westerly, the southern tip of RI, they would only have traveled 109 miles before running out of gas. And they haven’t been gone for more than two hrs before having to stop.
Ok, we will start our trip after dark. fill up lots of gas cans beforehand, but don’t bother filling the vans. time to refuel, grab your rifles and stand guard incase … what were they fearing? if it was racist cops, that was the thing to ensure you got cops attention.
If they don’t recognize America as a sovereign nation, why does their leader and a few in the group yelling back at the police about honoring and protecting the Constitution? Can’t have it both ways. And how do self-described foreign nationals have the “Constitutional right” to own guns in a country they don’t recognize? And why does the leader say his nation has a treaty with us? If you don’t recognize America as a sovereign nation, how do you have a treaty? This guy is a walking hypocrisy. But then, Muslims’ strength is their ability to use lies in battle. Mohammed’s Treaty of Hudaybiyyah.
Which border did they recently cross into this country ?we have training camps thru out this country that have been in place for decades Without any intelligence agencies doing anything to them.
You can barely visit the Rockies here in Colorado, Idaho or Montana without tripping over one of these “training camps” Sanajac.
Guys and gals dressed in camo running and jumping and huddling in the bushes.
Living in “compounds”.
The live and let live attitude works pretty good with these people and most of them tire of the survivalist style of living after a while.
It is possible, though, that some of them will get weirder and we all keep an eye on them.
My first question, how many of this group are actually FBI informants?
There has been some talk about there being 2 Feds embedded with the group. Haven’t seen any official sources, but multiple ppl heard PD mention it on the scanner. Possibly the first 2 who were quickly arrested in the ordeal? Also, local news stations have been bouncing the # arrested between 9 & 11, back to 9. Who knows, but that would be consistent with other similar situations.
Going by reports of past infiltrations, close to half.
If you go by the Whitmer Kidnapping Plot math, 1 in 5, so 2…
the number I read was 3 out of 5 in the Whitmer van were FBI informants or collaborators
so 60%
In one of the plot’s climactic scenes, in the main van driving up to look at Governor Whitmer’s vacation home, three out of the five people in the van — 60 percent of the plot’s senior leaders — were federal agents and informants:
31. FOX, CROFT, CHS-2, a UCE, and an individual from Wisconsin traveled in the first vehicle. While in the vehicle, CROFT and FOX discussed detonating explosive devices to divert police from the area of the vacation home. They stopped at the M-31 highway bridge on the way, where FOX and the UCE inspected the underside of the bridge for places to seat an explosive charge. FOX took a picture of the bridge’s support structure, which he later shared with CHS-2 in their encrypted chat. From there, they drove to a public boat launch across the lake from the vacation home to watch for the other cars in their group. [FBI]
You may be wondering how you get “three out of five” when the DOJ’s complaint only acknowledges two undercover FBI operatives: UCE (meaning “Undercover Employee,” or full-time agent) and CSH-2.
That is because the FBI went to great lengths to hide their affiliation with the fifth person in the van, describing him only as “an individual from Wisconsin” (again, more on this later).
Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions of Federal Foreknowledge
https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/federal-foreknowledge-jan-6-unindicted-co-conspirators-raise-disturbing-questions/
Right! It was 3 out of 5.
Hmm so gives us at least 6 if not 7 Moops.
I’ve met some of these types in downtown Atlanta. They believe they have the right to run this country not Americans. They’re wrong.
Additional info here…
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2021/07/what-we-know-about-rise-of-the-moors-group-engaged-with-massachusetts-state-police-in-interstate-95-shut-down.html
A Massachusetts State Police trooper was traveling northbound on Interstate 95 in Wakefield when he came upon two vehicles stopped in the breakdown lane around 1:30 a.m. on Saturday.
The men were attempting to refuel their vehicles.
The occupants of the vehicle were dressed in military-style tactical gear. Some had long rifles, some pistols and “some had a combination of both,” Massachusetts State Police Colonel Christopher Mason told reporters on Saturday.
The trooper asked members of the group to produce licenses for the firearms and members of the group indicated they weren’t licensed or didn’t have copies of licenses on them.
“You can imagine 11 armed individuals standing with long guns slung on an interstate highway at two in the morning certainly raises concerns and is not consistent with the firearms laws we have in Massachusetts,” Mason said.
[…]
While showing inside of one of the vehicles, he shows multiple fuel canisters which the group intended to use to refuel rather than stopping at a gas station off the interstate.
etc.
ADL and SPLC say these folks are Whackadoodles.
Well that shoots my hypothesis as to how this began.
So now my questions are:
1) Why travel in the middle of the night? Most likely to avoid being seen, but that raises the question as to why they would not want to be seen. And why choose to refuel on a highway when they could easily find other, more hidden locations if they wished to keep a low profile?
2) Where did the gas come from? If they bought it at a gas station, then why could they have done that before and not later?
3) If they wished to avoid drawing attention to themselves, why did they feel they need to behave in ways, and multiple ways at that, which drew enormous amounts of attention?
4) It’s not as if they had to travel geared up, so why did they choose to do so?
If they felt the need to travel geared up, and wished to avoid detection, this suggests their motivation in traveling might not have been to attend “training”
1)For me, when I drove Mass to Maine, I always did it in the middle of the night because the roads would be bare and it would take less time. I also enjoyed stopping for breakfast in the wee hours. I did that from the age of 16 frequently.
2&3) If their intention was not to draw attention, they would have filled their tanks in R.I. and driven straight through Mass without stopping until they reached Maine where we have open carry.
4)There is no logical reason for them not to have worn comfortable clothing and locked everything else in the trunk, unless the intent was to draw attention and conflict.
5) Mass has a mandatory one year sentence for being in possession of a firearm without legal permit, so I would not choose Mass to make such an obvious and ridiculous stand, but that’s just me…
Certainly STOOPID. “In order to avoid drawing attention to ourselves, by gassing up at gas station, while fully armed, we’ll just carry enough gas in jerry cans, that we don’t haveto stopat stations, and can just pull over to the emergency lane to gas up while fully armed up.
Hey, idiots, how about stowing your weopons in the TRUNK?
NOT the brightest bulbs in the pack,…
File under: Error Cell.
Not only the weapons Dutchman but all of the other gear they were wearing while packed into to two cars.
Eleven guys packed into two cars while wearing all of the stuff that these guys wear while playing soldier.
We see a lot of this here in the west in the mountains but they are always discreet while coming and going.
Like you say “not the brightest bulbs in the pack…..”.
They usually are.
OK. That’s weird. Didn’t realize they were carrying gas cans.
Not really necessary to re-fuel on the side of the road w/ your own gas cans in that area of the country. *Plenty* of gas stations!
Maybe if they were using it to re-fuel in the middle of the woods up in N. Maine, but not MA./R.I./ South N.H. area. Just stupid at best, suspect at worst.
I just can’t take any more of this white supremacy.
Quick, call Gen Milley so he can tell us nothing to see, move along.
Saturday is Pedicure Day for Milley. Leave a message with his assistant.
BTW…
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2021/07/what-we-know-about-rise-of-the-moors-group-engaged-with-massachusetts-state-police-in-interstate-95-shut-down.html
Jamhal Talib Abdullah Bey is identified on the group’s website as the Moorish American Consular Post Head for the Rise of the Moors. His biography on the group’s website lists him as having served in the United States Marine Corps previously.
“Yes, I do want to know about Moor Rage.”
did you notice that they call themselves moorish? ‘we are moors, ish’
also it should be noticed that they claim olmecs are also moors.
I guess minister loony Farrakhan wasn’t loony enough for these people.
and then there is a lengthy letter they say they sent to congress critter ilhan omar. I am curious enough to want to know, but I am unwilling to inflict that on myself or anyone else.
someone mentioned “pedicure day for General Milley”?
General Milley: “I do want to understand Cross Dressing… and I’m a Cross Dresser.”
Snert!
white supremacists
every freakin time
Moops.
When I first read this item, I thought: Well, the govt found some of those white supremacists they’re always going on about.
someone was being oppressed
“a black man cant even refuel his car on the side of the road without getting a swat team called in”
Driving While Moorish
“I always use my long gun as a funnel, officer. Makes a good jack handle, too.”
[Outdated Post]
“The men claimed to be “from a group that does not recognize our laws,” according to a statement from the Wakefield Police Department.”
So, another dem lib group…… Yawn.
“from a group that does not recognize our laws,”
Besides the Biden Occupation Government (BOG), you mean?
Besides the Supreme Court, you mean?
Besides the Uni-Party, you mean?
Besides BLM and Antifa, you mean?
Besides Soros Prosecutors In Name Only, you mean?
Besides Election Officials, you mean?
Besides Hawaii judges, you mean?
Besides the NSA, you mean?
Besides…
“claiming to be from a group that does not recognise our laws”, without any clarification, SOUNDS like (to the uninformed/LSM brainwashed) like a “right wing supremacist” group.
Nowhere in the release by LE, or the media does it clarify WHAT group, or (as Sundance does) give a link to the website, , clarifying it is a MUSLIM group that professes to not recognise U.S. law.
And we “still have no idea WHAT the motive was”, for the nightclub shooter, the San Bernadino shooter, etc.
The selective disclosure of race and ideology, in official and media crime reportage, and especially the synchronicity between officials and media is mind boggling.
White officer kills black suspect, the officers info is viral within hours….black officer kills white (Ashli Babbit) and, despite a DC law REQUIRING release of his name within 24 hours, their STILL has been no official agknowledgement.
We are far down the rabbit hole, and so far with no exit visible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGO0S6jboU
OK, all scary and suspicious cat stuff aside.
What a mentally unstable liberal conundrum! Religion of peace people with unlicensed firearms looking like white right wing nuts but with the wrong skin color. Ha.
At some point the Biden/Harris devotees have got to scratch their heads and wonder what to believe, or maybe not.
And 100% agree, an unlawful search?
Weird story to start the weekend.
Are you sure they were “pulled over” other media posts state they ran out of gas (stupidly) and were standing on the side of the road with long guns slung over their shoulder (INCREDIBLY STUPIDLY) if this the case this would be a “TERRY” stop “Terry vs Ohio” and would be legit. BTW if these guys were white they’d be called WHITE NATIONALISTS
According to the self-proclaimed leader of the group (Jamal) on multiple livestreams during the ordeal, they were not pulled over. They were already pulled over in the breakdown lane when the officer arrived.
It appears the 3 livestreams have now been removed from YT, but I watched all 3 very closely.
They had multiple gas cans onboard to avoid unnecessary stops while traveling interstate from their origin (RI) to their final destination (ME).
They were not buying gas in MA. They were filling up using cans they had onboard. Jamal stated they took this approach to “make them legal” transporting firearms across state lines. He referenced a SC case they believe would allow them to legally transport the weapons (peaceful journey thru states without making unnecessary stops).
Whether or not they are correct about the case they cited, they definitely acknowledge they were filling up with gas (that they already had in their vehicle) on the side of the road when the MA State Trooper pulled up. They had visible firearms (rifles & handguns). They claimed to be peaceful, but refused to comply with the officer (i.e. request for permits). Instead, they cited the SC case & exited the vehicle with their weapons.
Some have pointed out the question: why would they need to refill in Wakefield, MA after such a short journey (assuming they started in RI with a full tank of gas)?
If they didn’t have a full tank of gas at the start of the journey, what’s the point of carrying extra gas for the stated purpose of planning to avoid unnecessary stops?
Seems like a valid question to get at the motivation for making a stop on the side of the highway, making such a spectacle at 2am (going against their goal of making unnecessary stops, never mind while open-carrying in full tactical gear).
THESE are the Domestic Terrorists that Biden’s DoJ should be talking about, instead of the AMERICAN Jan 6th protesters.
What is the point of all this? I’m so confused!
I don’t know these guys, but they apparently were not doing anything violent, nor did they express intent of violence.
But, the guy I feel the most for is the poor trooper who got lucky enough to encounter them.
So… if these guys were all white and say, one of them had an Oath Keepers patch on their fatigues, I’m guessing they’d all be shot, then dragged to prison without due process, jailed without bail, and it would be all over the news that the white domestic terrorists must be stopped!
Moslems decked out in tactical gear….
with loaded handguns and rifles……
traveling at night…..
running into woods…..
when discovered by LEO’s….
on America’s birthday weekend…..
Hmmmmmm…….?
Lets also consider that they were going to Maine for ‘ training ‘.
Maine has a long unguarded border with Canada , and much less attention on it than down South.
Its not just drugs and fruit pickers crossing , its fighters and weapons.
” US fuels Syrian war with new arms supplies to Al Qaeda terrorists ”
The Pentagon is buying 2.8 Billion worth of weapons for conflict zones around the world.
Most of the weapons are bound for Syria.
( most ……. how many are headed back to the US ? )
Vlad Tepes Blog . com
Fine with me if they go visits Susan. LOL.
And multiple gas cans!
Heading for a heavily wooded area!
What could go wrong???!!!!
BTW, I identify as anti-government too! LOL.
Show me the nukes and the fighter jets. Dementia said we need those to be a threat.
Oh look, a shiny object on July 4th weekend. Looks like the FBI’s Antifa mercs are going after religious protestors in LA this weekend too. Excellent.
Arizona.
Hmm…its only Massachusetts….let them keep it.
“heavily armed men claiming to be from a group that does not recognize our laws…”
Those would be FBI agents, right?
Bingo.
I suspect this is a setup for a major move against a so-called white supremist group. No facts, just a gut feel, so they can say, see we look at all armed groups. So they do this little stop of a band of black militants as prelude to go after their real enemy white privilege supremist militias.
What white supremist groups? I don’t know any white supremists!
“What white supremist groups? I don’t know any white supremists!”
I ridicule my friends if they go on a kick about so-called ‘white supremacists’
“What? Those white supremacists give you a hard time this week?
“Nudge you off the sidewalk?
“Steal your lunch money?
“Send you mean tweets?
“What?”
Truthfully, lindak – they don’t know any white supremacists either
(“I hate Illinois Nazis”)
They should ask the Fedbois that were in the stopped cars.
Because, you know, there are no doubt some *.govs in there.
Besides, who wears a full load out plate carrier in a car unless you’re a contractor in a red zone? Try it sometime and see why I say that.
To paraphrase:
“Never belong to a group that would have you as a member.”
It does, however, seem curious that they rousted a group with the preferred melanin content. For that I join SD and insert a suspicious armadillo about there.
“When the Feds raid your drive
like a Woke FBI
That’s a Moor–ish!”
Try this:
“See–we go after all dangerous extremists, not just the 100 million Trump voters!”
If I was employed by fake news I would spin the narrative like this:
If it wasnt for White Supremcacy, groups of activists like this one would not exist.
I could also find a way to incorporate global warning but that would be more difficult.
&f=1&nofb=1
I’m gonna solve the mystery for you guys.
Just another planted operation by the FBI to justify domestic surveillance.
You are welcome!
FBI most likely has several informants in this group and those informants lead the way to this event to end up like it did.
Hope I’m the first to make the seinfeld reference:
‘No, I’m sorry it’s the Moops.’
You’re not – but it gets funnier every time I see it!
Someone beat you upthread, but you still get a trophy cause it’s still funny as hell.
Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our strength. Diversity is our…
This is one of those cases where I’ve got no problem with the government stopping and arresting Exploding Mohammad’s before they shoot up an elementary school, Beslan (Russia) style.
They shouldn’t even be in this country.
Wray was supposed to hire a false flag group of white militia members but somehow ended up with black militant Islamists.
Wrong Rolodex?
Anti-gov group? Show me your fighter jets and nukes.
Well, none – but they may have been in possession of hydroxychloroquine.
Well then, definitely domestic terrorists.
kleen said: “Anti-gov group? Show me your fighter jets and nukes.”
MiG-29, but still…
Just how many foreigners that hate our country are we going to allow? Did we really not expect this? Obama opened this country up to Somalis, who quite frankly made their country a ? hole. So what does Jug Ears do? He brings them here to destroy our country, but somehow we are racist if we state the obvious. Meanwhile the Kenyan is kicked back at Martha’s Vineyard. I despise that SOB!
Large numbers of Somalians are living here in New England, especially in Portland and Lewiston, Maine, courtesy of The Won. Possibly in Providence, too, though I can’t say for certain. So, you might not be wrong.
The trip from RI to ME can easily be done on a full tank of gasoline in any vehicle. In RI and MA 2A laws are prohibitive and police have probable cause rights, to the best of my knowledge. And, it’s the 4th of July weekend. The group may have had pyrotechnics in mind, but not anything you’d want to take the kiddies to see.
These people couldn’t have done more to draw attention to themselves if they’d live-streamed from Gillette Stadium or Fenway Park en route.
The first description to the coppers must have been “white supremacists”. That would be the only reason for attempting to do their job.
https://youtu.be/KWDvLftRyZ0
Sounds like a preplanned provocation of the authorities possibly to create a national incident.
I certainly want police to check the papers of folks driving in cars armed to the teeth. A group of 11 armed men in a couple of cars it’s enough to raise suspicion to identify them.
Clearly, the name of the group is not evocative at all.
Considering the history of the Iberian peninsula or of implied intentions for America, I doubt that it is benign in the slightest.