The “Rise of the Moors” group, is a Muslim faction of U.S. citizens who do not recognize America as a valid, independent or authentic nation [Website Here]. As a result they do not consider themselves aligned with the citizenship of the U.S. as a sovereign state. Instead they perceive their homeland as “the Maghreb Al Aqsa (America – Morocco the most extreme west)”.
Last night at approximately 2:00am ET Massachusetts state police pulled over two vehicles containing 8-10 heavily armed members of the Moor group as they were heading to a training exercise. After several members of the group refused to comply with “papers please“, a stand-off began. [Insert suspicious cat considering the absence of ‘probable cause’ here.] Some of the Moors ran into the neighboring woods. The police set up a perimeter. After the stand-off was resolved (took all night and morning), some of the Moors were arrested [2 pictured Below].
The version of events from local Massachusetts law enforcement is:
“The Wakefield Police Department is assisting the Massachusetts State Police with a dangerous incident on Route 128 Northbound in the area of Parker Road.
During a motor vehicle stop, several heavily armed men claiming to be from a group that does not recognize our laws exited their vehicles and fled into the woodline off 128 in the area of Parker Road / Elm Street. Approximately 8 males fled into the woods carrying rifles and handguns and appear to be contained in the wooded area adjacent to the highway. No threats were made, but these men should be considered armed and dangerous.” (read more)
It would appear the issue of ‘probable cause‘ for the original stop is part of the issue being avoided by law enforcement (and media). The men were armed, but had broken no laws and were legally transiting between their home in Rhode Island to another location. Unfortunately, the media reporting aligns with the obfuscated descriptions from law enforcement and , wait for it,… the FBI: “Kristen Setera, FBI Boston spokeswoman, said the FBI is “fully engaged with our state and local partners.” (link)
The police are saying the cars were pulled over in the emergency lane with their hazard lights flashing when the trooper arrived at 1:30am. I would consider that explanation suspect, unless the guys pulled over because they needed to pee. I doubt a convoy of heavily armed men in tactical gear wearing body cameras would just randomly pull over, but who knows.
An eye witness claims to have seen the vehicles fill up with gasoline and then get immediately pulled over after they left the gas station. That sounds more likely, but again, I digress. Here’s the MSM version, and keep in mind the issue of ‘probable cause’ seems to be a concern for the police, or at least is the preeminent aspect in the reporting.
MSM – [..] “The situation started around 1:30 a.m., when a state trooper saw two vehicles in the breakdown lane with their hazard lights on, Mason said.
The men claimed to be “from a group that does not recognize our laws,” according to a statement from the Wakefield Police Department.
The trooper on scene requested driver’s licenses and firearms licenses, but the individuals either said they didn’t have them, or didn’t have them in their possession, Mason said.
At some point during this interaction, a number of the individuals ran into the woods with their firearms, Mason said. Police established a perimeter, and two people were initially arrested in the woodline, one of whom was armed, according to Mason.
Massachusetts State Police said in a tweet around 5:30 a.m. that members of the group were “refusing to comply with orders to provide their information and put down their weapons.”
“Through our hostage negotiation team, we are talking with the subjects — some that are in the woods, some that are in the vehicles in the breakdown lane where the original interaction occurred — and we are hopeful that we are able to resolve this peacefully with them,” Mason said during the standoff.
Of the 11 ultimately arrested, two suspects were located in the vehicles, state police said.
The group’s self-professed leader wanted it known that their ideology is not anti-government, Mason said.
“I think the investigation that follows from this interaction will provide us more insight into what their motivation, what their ideology is … Their actions have had a significant impact on the motoring public, particularly because it’s a holiday weekend,” Mason said.
Residents of Wakefield and Reading were urged to shelter in place during the standoff. The shelter in place has since been lifted.
“We will now conduct sweeps of their 2 vehicles and woods,” Massachusetts State Police tweeted.
Kristen Setera, FBI Boston spokeswoman, said the FBI is “fully engaged with our state and local partners.” (link)
Suspicious cat remains, well, suspicious…
I just started thinking about which are the worst and best case scenarios here.
If the worst case scenario is that the cars held some number of fed agents/informants directing a would-be false flag psyops to scare the country on July 4 into another giant step towards tyranny and totalitarianism (hypothetical only!)…
…then the best case scenario would be that these were actual Muslim terrorists on their way to commit some unknown atrocity, stopped by actually non-corrupt local police. Again, hypothetical only…
But…
I just can’t get my head around how bad the best case scenario would be!
White nationalists … yeah, white nationalists, yeah – that’s the ticket
10-1 these SOBs are democrats!
10-1 they’re Muslims
Muzlocrats. It’s a floor wax AND a dessert topping!
They are. …and the way the front page of their website comes across (at least to me) is that they are using taqqiya when they say they aren’t against our government.
Maybe they’re just saying they are not against Democrats:)
As long as our own government supports them being here, we have a serious problem because taqiyya is real which our government knows but denies.
“taqiyya is real which our government knows but denies”
“taqiyya is real which our government knows but FORGETS OR DISREGARDS”
fixed it
I heard this story all day on my car radio and immediately thoughte, how convenient, must be white supremacist Trump supporters, right? But they never mentioned the race of the individual which confused me…they certainly would say white domestic terrorists wouldn’t they. None of the broadcasts ever mentioned Muslim…now, I can see from the pictures that they are BLACK Muslims..uh oh…this story better get buried fast.
My thought too nimrodman.
The Dreaded White Nationalists we all must fear.
White Nationalists who dressed in Black-face just to “throw shade” on people of color. It’s straight up racist I tell ya!!!!
Probably a false flag, feds or Soros types.
They have different audiences.
That b.s. white Christian male who mass murdered Asian women for being too hot and giving happy endings in GA (one of the 6 state steal ground zeros) was the most unbelievable claptrap I’ve ever heard in my life. Trying to feed in messages geared for the Left but so hokey it didn’t take.
This is obviously written for us.
Not buying it.
Whatever Unitraitors want to stop your new false flags like Patriot Act Extension # 4,000 or more trillions for corrupt agencies my answer is nein, nein, nyet, nyet, nein.
Hell nein, fuhrer.
(Speaking of which, their infiltration of Capitol actual peaceful protest was badly plagiarized “Reichstag Fire” power grab for serial plagiarist Slow Joe)
Do you see why domestic surveillance is so important now, wink wink.
Our social justice heroes in the FBI just gave us another reason to trust them.
Sarc/
I heard this from a friend this AM, but no mention of the fact they’re Muslim. I’m betting MSM will never mention that part. Likely they’ll just tie it into their narrative about “Moors” being part of the white supremist insurrectionist threat of Trump supporters, and demands more gun restrictions. I wonder how many of them were a part of Jan 6?
I cant say for sure who these people are but I’d like to try to solve right now. Pat, give me an “m”.
So an FBI false flag operation planned for the 4th was interrupted by a state trooper who wasn’t read in on the plan
NAILED IT- YOU WIN.
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I’ve also been imagining for a while that the derailment was also caused by exactly the situation sundance guessed:
Moor Kid, driving: I gotta pee.
Agent McProvacateur from backseat: No, not now! Wait, don’t stop the car here! OMG don’t wear that rifle, leave it in the car…. wait….Nooooooooo! [HUGE FACEPALM]
Great description of what might have started all of this steph.
None of these guy ever really look very smart.
When the photos or the videos are posted of them being arrested they always look bewildered and confused like they have no idea where they are or what is going on.
Speaking of diversity, Egyptian Muslim stabbing a Rabbi came to mind also;
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/2021/07/muslim-stabs-rabbi-boston-8-times-after-trying-daniel-greenfield/
More fun and games in Massachusetts.
The poor guy was stabbed about 7 times if I remember right.
And NOT by a White Terrorist.
I have a feeling that if ISIS types want to do something bad this weekend, it will be near the Esplanade during the Boston Pops annual concert. The fireworks may cover the sound of gunfire or EIDs….and everyone there will still be wearing masks so it will be easier to blend in. And the typcial upper-class liberal concert goers will not take a second look at someone placing a picnic basket near them and then strangely walking away as they will automatically catch themselves at “profiling”…..
The media might as well be calling them ‘Moops’
Game over. They win
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Hey! Don’t burst that bubble . . . boy.
These moops were arrested!! They arrested the moops… lets get them!!
They are not just Muslim, they are BLACK Muslims, and moors were black.
No, Moors have dark skin but if you’re thinking “black” the way sub-Saharan Africans have “black skin,” no.
The term “sub-Saharan Africa” is a silly colonial term. Africans have not conceived of such a term. In Elizabethan times–blacks were descibed as either Blackamoor or Tawnymoor. Consider Shakespear’s play Othello the Moor. Tawnymoors were those having yellow-brown skins.
In Africa skin colors do vary quite often. Google: “Hausa couples images.” Google: “Igbo ladies images.” Google: “Rwanda Beauty contest images.”
Africans have defined a whopping 35 skin tones.
It’s an obsession that has nothing to do with the perspectives of any other group.
You jest of course. LOL.
I wonder what the mix of nationalities of the moors really were? the carthegenians were phoenician and ruled western mediterranean. rome conquered them and mixed up everybody around the empire. the vandals settled in that part of africa and spain. visigoths also settled in spain. arabs swept across north africa and into spain.
all of that happened to or on top of the existing black peoples of north africa. but yes, the moors were known as black. and they have been muslim ever since the arabs came around. may have been christian before that (christianity was spread throughout the roman empire). could have worshipped baal and sacrificed children under carthage. who knows what they worshipped before that.
Yes, the Moors were known as being of very dark complexion. That’s why in a number of Spanish-speaking countries in the Americas there’s the “Moros y Cristos” dish of “black beans and white rice” to celebrate the white Spanish victory over the black Moors–in 1492.
We will be watching the “press” tie themselves in Gordian knots over the description of these guys Heidi.
The perps really should have left out the word “Moors” from their moniker.
The journalists think that they were “Moores” ….you know….whiteys like Roger and Dudley!
Was this an operation for FBI to extract one or more of their own embeds?
Seems kinda ham-handed.
This does not match and needs to be reconciled. It could change the whole story.
“An eye witness claims to have seen the vehicles fill up with gasoline and then get immediately pulled over after they left the gas station.”
I know that stretch of highway I lived near it. There is no gas station anywhere near there. I call malarky on that story.
Thanks.
There are Shell stations just off the exit before (Route 28) and on North Street. I use them often.
When did you live there?
The FBI has a habit of bungling just about everything thing they do. I reference the actions of recent Fumbling Bureaucracy of Idiots past directors Mueller, Comey and Wray. Don’t worry the rank and file are in on it all the way.
Not one single FBI whistle-blower in the last 5 years. Id say the FBI is 100% corrupt.
We’ve known this since the 60’s.
The rank and file have all been hand-picked to be good little Natzis … doing exactly what their leftist political leader tells them.
Especially the Massachusetts FBI which has a long history of corruption at least dating back to Whitey Bulger and when Robert Mueller was assigned there.
Howie Carr show should be interesting on Monday.
Just ask Hannity and his buddy ? Geraldo Two peas in a pot.
Jerry Rivers is a talentless and nonsensical talking head. He is cringeworthy
True Jrod.
They bungle on purpose and the fawning loser press covers.
Don’t be silly. The FBI are busy scouring the digital footprints of every user of CTH … looking for white supremacist insurrectionists … they ain’t gots time for no Muslim Moors!! The Moors have a right to arm themselves as they simply ignore our government … they don’t want to “topple it” … like all us Trump voters.
Right?
They will make an announcement from the Boston HQ of ISNA or the Cambridge Terror mosque frequented by the Tsarnaevs to show that they did not mean to investigate a bunch of armed and camo’d muslims. It was an accident by profiling!
I think the tin foil hat nay be affecting you.
The guy in the video was talking about some court case or law that gave them the right to pass through unmolested, provided that they didn’t stop. He said that they were allowed to stop along the highway to fill up with gas. They carried gas in their vehicles so they wouldn’t have to exit the highway in order to meet the letter of the law.
Did he say why they were in the hazard lanes? Ohhhh was it because they were refueling on the side of the road to avoid gas stations?
Strange thing is they say they don’t recognize law, but also plan according to it. Who knows what’s going on…
funny how we have been trained in this media funnel…. to take one story in one location and extrapolate it across the entire country like a supreme court ruling.
Fck them. Where is Brian Dugan? (the biggest shock would be if less than 100% of the people on this site know who that is)
Oh so true with all of these guys.
They only like laws when they are protected by them.
Otherwise they flaunt them and try to make us live by them.
Typical criminal class.
A member of the group said in a video that they had enough extra gas with them to cover the journey through MA. That same guy said that MA firearms law was didn’t allow the transport of firearms anywhere in MA outside the highway their vehicle was transiting on.
He went on to say that they had stopped in the breakdown lane to refuel their cars when the state trooper came along and turned on his lights and started his investigation.
RULE #1
Avoid attention.
These guys couldn’t even make it to training.
How could they possibly have made themselves more obvious?
Great point! They sure weren’t too professional.
Like FBI, just screw ups!
Rhode Island to Wakefield is tops 1.5 hours. So to run out of gas on the highway is some piss poor planning, especially carrying weapons and wearing full tactical gear in a gun hostile state. They must have done it on purpose knowing the Staties would show up shortly. Lots of media attention and fear porn of white supremacists….or they were dumbasses. See how many of the 11 get indicted for an accurate count of total FBI agents on the short bus. I would guess 11 FBI agents.
The story I heard on the radio said they were on their way to Maine for training. For your information, and theirs, Maine is about 90% white so there couldn’t be a worse place to go for “training” unless you want to be noticed.
Very true “littleflower481”.
Maine is about 90% white
Not in the Somali enclaves, it probably isn’t
Lewiston
Portland
Ask the Mainers so sound off here
Yes it seems like they intended to draw attention to themselves, possibly provoke a fire fight.
RAJ – I’m from Rhode Island and now live in MA, agreed!
I checked out that link Sundance provided and they’ve got some interesting documents and whatnot posted.
They are located in Pawtucket, RI.
According to MassLive, they were attempting to refuel. Also some interesting background regarding the group provided in the MassLive article.
Here’s the link:
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2021/07/what-we-know-about-rise-of-the-moors-group-engaged-with-massachusetts-state-police-in-interstate-95-shut-down.html
That’s the dead give-away that the plan was to be noticed and apprehended. What isn’t clear is the reason.
Much was made in the reporting about ‘not believing in our laws.’ Since I believe this was scripted ‘operation,’ the purpose may be to prove that FBI is ‘equal opportunity’ and is not singling out white groups (trumped up as it is!), or, as I surmised earlier, maybe DOJ wants to test in court whether they may simply apprehend anyone the DOJ claims ‘does not believe in our laws.’
Regardless of the truth as usual, they will be labeled white supremacists when this is all said and done.
Actually, IMO they will be used as air cover when the brownshirts start mass arresting white people – see, we’re even-handed! They were just another “anti-government extremist” group!
I understand and appreciate the lack of sympathy expressed here – OMG they’re Muslims! – but we might possibly want to see the irony and the ulterior motive that gives common cause.
I bet they’re not the only “heavily armed men” who do not recognize the authority of an illegitimate government….
First sentence is on the money. Their real enemy/target is what they have repeatedly told us, white supremist militias.
We might leave off the last two words of that phrase and we come up with who they will really target “Puzzled”.
All true, but those Moors are not legit. They are FBI.
They don’t look white to me and Othello in Shakespeare was a “moor” and dark skinned.
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I knew some Moroccans years ago — they were olive-skinned and specifically did not identify as ‘black’ . . .
You clearly did not look at the picture above or click on the link to their website, they are black:
https://www.riseofthemoors.org/
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I was making a personal observation from my life experiences, not commenting on this group of people . . .
That’s why I said regardless of the truth.
Debra, if you go to their website (Sundance provided a link), that is exactly right – they do not “identify” as black”.
As I poked around in the docs and other information on the website, it’s interesting to note they claim an affinity with Masons and the Shriners.
See here from the FAQ section:
Are the Moors Masons?
Masonry is the preservation of Moorish Science and its various applications, for example the administration of government.
In fact, the ‘Ancient Arabic (Moorish) Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine’, now known as ‘Shriners international’ or simply ‘Shriners’, a group of Master Masons, get their title Potentate, a high-ranking officer within masonry, from Minister – Plenipotentiary. The position granted to John Adams, Benjamin Franklyn, Thomas Jefferson etc. to negotiate the Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the Moorish Empire and the United States colonies.
It was the Sultan of Morocco, his Imperial Majesty Muhammed Ibn Abdullah, who was the first sovereign to recognize the Europeans as an independent body politic / nation of people.
(See ‘The Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the Moroccan Empire and the United States (1786 – 1787), Treaty of Tripoli (1796 – 1797) and The American Constitution 1791 Article 6.)
If they were born in America they would have been considered black–same way that people like Valerie Jarrett, Cory Booker, and all those CNN blacks are considered black.
Some who are white also identify as black, like the wack a doodle who ran that black organization. Also, if you didn’t vote for Joe Biden, “you ain’t black.” as I recall. It’s fluid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Othello
look at the picture above that SD posted: They are black.
I know, I watched the videos. That’s why I said regardless of the truth.
Because reality is subjective now days.
Go to the link SD posted above to their website: they are black.
https://www.riseofthemoors.org/
Lots of oddities, but it somewhat sounds like a bugout practice exercise I’ve seen recommended. Get your group together, convoy in your bugout vehicles, stop only away from amenities and refuel only with what you carry. Get to your bugout location, do a couple days of camping/ wilderness survival/ patrolling and exercise practice. Doing it at night for practice a) makes it more familiar if you have to do it for real, and b) draws less attention than during the day.
do they warn you to post armed guards when traveling? If so, you may want to modify those instructions.
This makes the most sense
It can be so hard to tell what these “Rise of the Moors” were really up to because so many of these groups are real weirdos and crackpots and are easily used by not only their leaders but others.
These guys could be the idiots they appear to be and also a group that has been hijacked by an outside influence.
We are now at a place where we, American Citizens, are right to be suspicious of everything we see and read about.
Here at the Treehouse we can discuss the endless possibilities and what we think is really going on, a nice place to have.
I have appreciated especially the input from Treepers who live in the area where these things are happening.
Thanks for the tip from our beloved Suspicious Cat!
False Flag Operation Cancelled ?
Patsy’s no longer needed ?
Hilarious! If watch their video he is citing the law of the land, the constitution to justify his actions. LOL that is so 10 years ago.
Constitution? Really? That document is no longer valid.
But, they don’t recognize the existence of the United States. Only when it suits their purpose!
James – after poking around on their website – Sundance provided the link – Rise of the Moors, it was interesting to read that they believe the United States ceased to exist in 1861 – hmmm.
From the FAQ section of the website:
The word Moroccan is a modern name for Ancient Moabite. After the continued fall of the Moorish Empire from about 1492, the Treaty of Grenada, Spain – The Coup of 1861 when the United States Congress adjourned sine die, or ‘With out day’, the national identity of the people who controlled the ancient empires of the world was removed from history.
I got it!
I got a narrative for fake news… I GOT IT!
Think about it… what could possibly be the motivation for a group of blacks to form an armed militia?
It’s because of….
WHITE SUPREMACY! Of course it is.
well, since this group identifies as moorish, maybe it would be whitish supremacyish that motivates them.
It’s more like the cops are buying them dinner and drinks and sending them on their way with a mild warning.
About 2-weeks ago we have a report from the DoD that there are 60,000 “new” special operators not assigned to units in the Military.
Read up on US Special Forces and even CIA Operative training.
Impersonation and operating as an agent provocateur are in the skills sets.
US Special Operators and INTEL operatives train in the US, by living and working among us.
Operation Jade Helm again?
If so, please do not come back to Caddo Lake for training this time. The local population was a bit tense about the last visit.
Jade Helm was a “training and dry run”.
We are likely living through the real deal at this time.
That is the reason, there is a such a concerted effort at this time suborn the 900,000 local law enforcement offciers across the US or wreck them via defunding. During Jade Helm, cooperation was given but not so much any more.
A key part of control over local LEO’s is control over “assignments”. LEO’s in a nationally controlled law enforcement force can be assigned away from their hometowns, removing a major mental barrier to be cooperative against friends and neighbors.
Dude this would totally explain the fake blm all last year.
Bet these 11 men are starting to wonder who it is within their group is the undercover agent that set them up for this opportunity to have the FBI begin to conduct their sweeps; or
which one of them is going to be turned by the FBI to become the future snitch among their group.
Just one?
LOL. Probably about 6.
They all belong to the US Government.
They had the misfortune to run into a vigilant local LEO not in on the operation.
The local LEO, who discovered them, lucked out that these guys did not feel the need to go kinetic.
“vigilant local LEO not in on the operation.”
Who, I’m guessing, will now be forced to resign. ?
Are people who claim not to be a part of the US allow to have guns here? Is this a group of Joe’s illegal immigrants?
Americans who have renounced their citizenship that are training for an insurrection.
“Suspicious cat remains, well, suspicious…”
Six ways from Sunday kinda suspicious.
Early on before the updates they had said that 2 cars were pulled over in the break down lane with their emergency flashers on. They were putting gas into one of the vehicles that must have run out of gas. there are gas stations at almost every exit and there are many exits on 95. it a very populated area. Not rural at all.
The cops says they noticed long guns and side arms and that all were dressed in fatigues,some wearing vest .
they were asked to produce drivers licenses and FID cards and none of them did. so they called in reinforcements. 3 local police departments and the state police were involved. it was the state police who first pulled over to offer assistance.
that’s what I got off the initial reporting. while I was reading it they updated the story. I was trying to get the location from google maps when the video disappeared . two guys were arrested from that group who had fkled the scene into the woods or brush and were walking down the street when stopped and arrested.
The later reporting you could tell they were being extra careful about everything they said ,using all kinds of language to say they were looking for a peaceful end to the situation.
and at one point some of the men in fatigues pulled out a large red flag and displayed it in the middle of the highway. I guess it was a flag of Morocco .
Sounds pretty crazy to me. I know they said they do not recognize American laws, but they certainly wanted their Rights . as in 2nd amendment.
I read they website briefly and it sounds like just another anti white group who still bring up the crusades as a reason for whatever they are doing what they are doing. Crazies who like to bounce between the America’s constitution and whatever they dreamed up that is the opposite of it.
A lot of Muslims remember the crusades. When Iran gets the bomb, stay away from Rome.
Need to throw in Vienna, Istanbul, Paris and London as well.
The Pope as well as Kings of The Holy Roman Empire, France and England were always leading actors in the crusades.
Yet, these are Muslin run cities at this time or soon will be…..what a dilemma.
No need for a warlike invasion, the inhabitants have peaceably ceded control.
They should remember they lost.
The Crusades came after the Moors took over Spain and finally turned back near Paris, France. So the Christian nations took the battles to Muslim lands so their people could live in peace. The other alternative is that every European country would have to have huge standing armies that could turn back any Muslim invasion before they destroyed too much infrastructure and peons. It was cheaper to send well-trained troops to the Middle East to deal with the problems. It was also a good way to get rid of pests and throne challenges.
China built their Great Wall to keep the muslim hoards from invading them.
the Muslims were hell bent on conquering the whole wide world.
And still are it seems like.
Saw something about they carried gas with them so they would not have to go to gas stations where they might have alarmed someone .
Didn’t work well.
Maybe the gas they were carrying was intended for a different use.
But when caught with it in their car they needed to come up with an explanation.
So did the cops have a right to ask for everyone’s ID? Maybe that’s why they didn’t show them. And then walking off is perfectly legal unless they are being detained. But there was no reason to detain them. Refueling is not a crime. Im not ok with extremists, but it looks like the cops were in the wrong here.
I live right near there. I thought the cops were treating them with kid gloves. I mean 8 men, dressed in fatigues, with long guns, driving in the middle of the night with extra gas cans, who state they don’t adhere to US or MA laws and declare themselves untouchable by law enforcement can only happen in MA…. Maybe we should all declare the same and stop paying taxes!!!
The cops were merely giving them the courtesy usually extended to illegal aliens in this state. /s
Ain’t that the truth!
They found Merrick Garland’s 4th of July weekend “white supremists” terror threat.
LOL!!!!!
CNN: “Trump responsible.”
For sure- this was all part of the lead up to the rally tonight.
Those dang Moorish White supremacists at it again.
“Keep up your bright swords, for the dew will rust them.”
Watched all the guy’s videos through links at ZeroHedge. the police had no probable cause and no laws were broken.
As they did not leave a federal highway, they are not subject to Assachussetts insane 2A laws.
They may seem scary, but they broke no laws – this is nothing more than cops abusing their authority.
And, not being white, make is much harder to railroad their civil rights.
If the cops seen them & ignored them the cameras would prob record them. 20 minutes later they blow up a church gathering. who gets the blame. no wonder cops are quitting in droves.
As has been cited many times in the past…
You cannot arrest someone for a crime you think they might commit in the future.
Your scenario is very possible, yet if LEOs could arrest those people, then they could arrest anyone that they find remotely suspicious.
FYI
Massive new LinkedIn data breach hits 92 percent of users
LinkedIn users need to be very worried indeed as email addresses, full names, phone numbers, physical addresses are being offered on sale and perhaps, passwords too.
https://www.wnd.com/2021/07/massive-new-linkedin-data-breach-hits-92-percent-users/
Just an FYI, not everything. Moor-ish is Muslim.
There are Orthodox Moor Churches, and old Black churches in the U.S. named after St. Benedict the Moor.
Here’s one in Florida:
…” Named for the patron saint of African-Americans, St. Benedict the Moor Catholic Church was built and dedicated in 1911. This church serves the historic Lincolnville district.”……. (Lincolnville is the historically Black district)
https://www.visitstaugustine.com/thing-to-do/st-benedict-moor
Also, doing a bit of research, there’s some org called the ” Moorish Science Temple” . It’s more black Muslim based and seems to be all over the U.S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moorish_Science_Temple_of_America
But true Moors are NOT “black.”
Needless to say, many who did not know history OR genetics, never understood this, churches included.
Music videos portrayed ancient Egyptians as “black” in the manner of African-American “black.”
Well, neither are Egyptians, but that never stopped the American Black Nationalist groups, MSM, Public Schools, etc. from claiming them as such.
I could never figure that one out, seeing how there actually WERE some great black African nations, like the Nigerians, etc.
But whatever, if Jesse Jackson said it was so, it was so….I guess. Ridiculous.
Exactly: Egyptians are not black but black videos tries claiming they were so they could say they (blacks) once ran the great Egyptian civilization.
Black kids accepted that.
So somehow the Massachusetts State Police with the help of the “fully engaged” FBI managed to discover the militia of the black white supremacist extremist movement?
Careful you local cops don’t violate the rights of these Muslim invaders. Sharia law applies to them. They have relegious freedoms guaranteed under the United States constitution. Oath keepers on the other hand are the group we’ve targeted.
At the very minimum the PTB cannot proclaim them “white supremacists” if they identify as Moors.
Moors have genetic admixture of Arab, Spanish, and Berber. While their skin is dark in much the way an Armenian or Egyptian’s is dark, they are not Negroid. The King Lear character has wrongly been thought by people who don’t know what a Moor is to be “black.” No. Neither are they “white.”
Berbers still exist. Google pics of them.
One of these guys, the one I saw the most of in the pic, does look phenotypically “Berber.”
Moors also include sub-Saharan Africans from Mauritania, Northern Senegal, and Western Mali.
Yes, but most of Mauritania is part of the Sahara; Mali is both Saharan desert with dry grasslands that border the desert; Senegal is on the coast and is dry in the north with hills that get rainfall as one goes south.
These countries are not generally spoken of as “Sub-Saharan” Africa, with its hot/humid tropical and subtropical temperatures.
Go to their website, they are black:
https://www.riseofthemoors.org/
Read some population genetics. They are not Negroid.
but how many of them are really moors? remember they identify as moorish.
Off top of my head is its prep us to do 10-20 times as much on MAGA affiliated groups. Hey, we did it to them too……
I’m honestly amazed any law enforcement troubled these fine people \s
Ha!
OK. Here’s a twit that explains WHY they traveled w/ gas cans. It actually makes a bit of sense.
Does anybody really believe that this is not a Deep State operation??
Am I reading this right? These masterminds. RAN OUT OF GAS??.???
In Mass! Probably 40 min. At. MOST. from where they started in R.I.!!!!
Geniuses!
Me thinks they intended to draw attention to themselves with this ludicrous pretense.
Another explanation could go something like this.
Both vehicles were in the breakdown lane with their lights flashing at 1:30 in the morning.
Trooper sees possible motorists that need assistance and stops to check it out.
8 to 10 heavily armed men with their own rifles in the vehicles or slung on their shoulders are observed.
This could be the case since the men were supposedly running off later with their rifles in hand into the woods. But I digress.
I did not know of any federal law that allows the transportation of firearms in the person’s possession with them in the passenger compartment of any vehicle unless they have certain licenses. Certainly there are numerous Massachusetts firearms law that prevent this also.
Transportation of rifles should be in locked cases in the trunk and separate from ammunition. But definitely not on your person , is that Morse into possession of a firearm without a permit. At least that’s how it used to be.
That is the probable cause for everything else that happened.
This varies widely by state. Also, law does not “ALLOW” ones 2A rights, law is only used to take them away.
As for Assachussets law, they never left the federal highway, so very weak ground for Assachussetts to apply their draconian standards on travelers.
Yes, in most states, carrying a loaded rifle in a vehicle is a big no no. But no claim was made that they carried loaded weapons. That would be a post-stop discovery. I did see that the popo asked for their gun licenses – an Assachussetts specialty and violation of the constitution.
In the videos, the leader stated the popo had given no reason for the stop when asked.
It was solely based on scary people with scary guns.
“It would appear the issue of ‘probable cause‘ for the original stop is part of the issue being avoided by law enforcement (and media”
These things are easily handled by law enforcement…The vehicle swerved, crossed the center line ect..The passengers seemed nervous and were reaching under the seat etc..
Damn, I wish they had just said, “We came here by way of the US-Mexican border. We bought the guns on the Mexican side.”
My impression is that it was a recruitment drive.
This is some strange stuff and it seems to be increasing.
This group of people fit right in with antifa and blm. This is from their website:
Adverse Possession
The RISE OF THE MOORS organization has successfully claimed an abandoned home for our benefit as a people. Adverse possession is simply ‘taking whats yours and not waiting for anyone to give it to you’. As an example, our people have been waiting for reperations, waiting to get access to our resources, waiting for better homes, waiting for better business and waiting for our freedom. Adverse possession puts an end to waiting.
We claimed this building as an organization so that not just one person benefits from this – our goal is to inspire people to move here, help secure the building and once this is done, we will repeat the process to the point that every Moorish family has a home and a business, if they so desire, for themselves.
Very interesting Charlotte Powell Brooks.
And “Adverse Possession” is not as simple as their web page says it is.
I know that Antifa and other groups like BLM are trying as hard as they can to diminish our personal property rights but they have a long way to go before they can walk in and ” take whats yours and not wait for anyone to give it to you”.
I think this aggressive attitude started back when B Obama said that we “did not build that”.
We will fight long and hard for what is ours and are not going to allow some one to stroll in and take it.
Happy Fourth Every one and God Bless America!
Shelter in place. Reprehensible new term for “voluntarily imprison.”
The guy said they were pulling their own gas in tanks behind their vehicle. They were doing that so they didn’t have to stop at a gas station and freak people out. Didn’t anyone listen to the video?
My first thought is that the IC knew about these Guys based on illegal surveillance and the FBI tipped off the locals and then swooped in.
Conveniently the select committee can now give them a plea deal as long as they confirm under oath that they are Trump supporters.
Wait folks there’s more….!
For just one arrest we can link all Trump supporters to domestic and Foreign terrorism
Call your hotline and turn in your brother in law today
Watch the follow-up press coverage. They’re an easy tell depending on the ‘angle’ they decide to cover the story.
The press will be the tell if this is a false flag op.
If they cover it all all Baby El.
Quite possibly we will not hear much more about this.
These guys are the “wrong” type for the press to hype this for much longer.
They will be back picking endlessly on the 1-6 terrorists who invaded Capitol Hill and must be punished.
All those white senior citizens who are locked up for the crime of wearing a support Trump T-shirt.
It’s “Moops”!
If your just transiting locations, why would any normal person be wearing full body armor with rifles out in a cramped automobile with other passengers for an extended period of time? Makes no sense as you put on all your gear at the training, etc., site. That is unless something nefarious is planned to shortly occur. Also, given MA strict firearms regulations, these guys were treated with kid gloves.
Yes, these guys were begging for a confrontation with LEOs, but not giving the LEOs any legal reason to do so.
Grab your popcorn, this may be an interesting legal battle – especially given they were White Supremecists of Color.
Long ago ( Wounded Knee) I stopped believing anything the EFF.BEE.EYE. says and in fact believe the exact opposite until they are proven innocent.
We will know the ” rest of the story” but much too late for our liking. Will they be held in solitary confinement with no bail like in Jan. 6th? Or something way less disproportionate?
Heavily armed men and no shots were fired????????? Ya right!!
I saw a video the leader posted at the time. It seems like they are rednecks going out camping and “training”. Nothing wrong with that. They are not so bright as they stopped in the breakdown lane to refill their tanks. They thought that would be less suspicious than have their convoy stop at a gas station. Wrong. They assume that staying on the interstate gives them legal protection in transporting firearms through the state. This reminds of the big rally of the John Brown gun club where some guy accidentally shot some other guy. Oops.
Do you actually believe the video??
I don’t even believe the story we’re being fed.
“The “Rise of the Moors” group, is a Muslim faction of U.S. citizens who do not recognize America as a valid, independent or authentic nation”
So they’re just like the left in America? ?
Clearly non-anglo white supremacists. AG Garland will announce a task force to investigate how Trump supporters caused this group to act out like this.
Sundance, before you go anti-police on this, maybe you should read up on the “Moors” because these people are kooky racist sovereign citizens.
I read that they were filling their gas tanks on the side on the side of the road…
Muslim agents on the federal payroll no doubt.
Suspicious indeed.
Sorry I don’t believe the government anymore any that comes out of there pie hole is a narrative to further an agenda.
I wonder what they think now!
Other reports indicate this wasn’t a stop. Troopers came upon the Moors’s vehicles at 1:30 AM, parked on the side of the highway, refuelling one another.
Did they run out of gas? Or did they wish to avoid leaving a video trail which would result from pulling into a gas station?
They were not lawfully carrying firearms. Both Rhode Island, under State Laws 11-47, and Massachusetts, require anyone carrying a pistol or revolver to be in possession of a valid carry permit. The pistols and or revolvers must also be concealed.
Absent permits, both states allow carrying of pistols and revolvers in unloaded, broken down condition in a locked container separate from the ammunition.
Rifles and shotguns must be in the trunk, unloaded.
So they weren’t carrying legally. They were carrying openly, sidearms on hips, and refused Troopers’ orders to put down the guns.
This is not the first time for the riseofthemoors.org.
The Providence, RI, Journal, ProJo.com, in October of 2019, ran an article concerning the Moors suing the City of Providence and the police for responding to a complaint of an armed man delivering a video presentation with a rifle slung around his neck, and a pistol on his hip.
That surely may be legal in one’s home or place of business, but try going on Facebook posing with guns and see what happens.
There is much more to this. The Moors believe themselves exempt from all US laws, and have quite a history of committing crimes and defending themselves by claiming that they’re exempt from murder and arson statutes.
They were on their way to a training op in Maine, well and good. But they were not carrying firearms in lawful manner.
Yes, the Second Amendment is tacit and shall not be infringed, but the Peoples’ Demokratic Republik’s of RI and Mass see things differently.
Paul, if I’ve just inadvertently flagged your comment, it’s an error. Sorry for the fat fingers on this ancient device if that’s the case.