Frank Luntz is an insufferable political putz and UniParty gatekeeper {See HERE – and HERE – and HERE}, but Fox News always protected their swamp spokesperson… until now. In Friday Night’s opening monologue Tucker Carlson took-on the DeceptiCon contract agent known as Frank Luntz.
Something is happening in the background for Fox News to give permission (perhaps instructions) to Tucker Carlson to be able to do this.
Everything Carlson notes is accurate; the expose’ is absolutely correct; but I cannot stop wondering why now? …And why Tucker Carlson? Carlson was always a member of the approved DeceptiCon establishment. This reversal doesn’t seem real. Watch this segment. Check the links above to absorb the full background.
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Suspicious cat remains, well, suspicious.
There are 6 chapters to Patrick Byrne’s account of why Trump lost. Mark Meadows is a big part of why he lost. Go to deepcapture.com and read all about the people that helped get rid of Trump. He was prescient it what is ocurring today.
No doubt the establishment was out to get President Trump, but he didn’t lose. Trump won by a landslide.
Billygoat65 is dead-on right!
Never forget how long the counting was stopped.
There was lots of *work* that needed to be done before the counting could resume.
Yes, Trump lost because of fraud and the courts and political parties were in on the fraud, it was massive.
Patrick Byrne is sketchy.
Do not forget, he willingly worked with the FBI to entrap Donald Trump Jr. using Byrne’s Russian girlfriend.
Thank you for finally pointing that out.
Byrne’s version of events is a very compelling read – but he was a problem before he became a self-perported hero.
True, Sundance. The hard truth is that the election was outright stolen. Period. Trump’s been right about this all along.
That was the one of the greatest things about Trump. Even if what he said seemed impossible, it usually turned out to be true…no duplicity in him…unlike most of establishment politicians.
exactly what part of his story do you not believe?
I don’t know the guy, but his story rings very true and explains a lot…a lot. I like Rudy also, but I couldn’t help but cringe at some of the moments, the really bad ones like that press conference at the lawn center. The whole affair reeked of really bad leadership. The division between Powell and Rudy. The sudden separation between Powell and PDJT. Reading what was being discovered then reading the court filings really left me confused.
I told several people that if this fraud didn’t get exposed and Biden’s election was confirmed by the senate then Trump truly has no one to blame but himself. Thats the hard truth. I was saying that long before I read Byrnes view. I was saying that in December. With the awesome power at his disposal, had he really wanted to get to the bottom of it he could have. I think maybe Byrne was right that PDJT was ready to just retire from it.
So much of what Byrne documents is obvious. Things we have repeated here many times. Like the people around Trump advising him while acting against his interests.
I don’t know who will be the republican nominee in 24 but I doubt it will be Trump. I wish he was young enough to do it again. I don’t think he will have the ability to do it again by then. I hope I am wrong.
If President Trump ran for President again, the entire DC Deep State would never let him win again.
Any Outsider will get the same treatment as PDJT. Ron D comes to mind.
If they “let” your candidate win, then know that your candidate is Uniparty property.
The next GOP candidate will not be a Globalist puppet.
And if Legit 45 decides to show up at primary time, he will crush the field. Count on it. Anyone believing otherwise are lying, or smoking too much Multinational Media tabaccee.
mudcreeker, there are many things I don’t fully understand about what went on between November 3rd and January 6th. I do know that I trust Trump’s judgment over that of Patrick Byrne.
The plan he said that he, Powel and Flynn had gone to the Whitehouse with to save Trump’s Presidency was, if true, not one Trump could support.
One question I have is how did Byrne with his background become involved in this effort with Sidney Powell. The plan as he describes it reads like a suspense novel. The plan reads well, but there were many problems with it being carried out in real life.
Another question is why Byrne was so eager to write this “memoir” immediately after Trump left office? The premise being if only Trump had done what we told him to, all would have been well and Trump would still be president. Was this helpful to Trump?
Sundance calls Byrne sketchy. He may be as pure as the driven snow, but I don’t trust him.
I believe that Sidney Powell pretty much confirmed Byrne’s account by posting the link to it on her Telegram.
I never did go back and read the rest of the story. But we all thought Rudy was drunk a couple of times, though, so it wasn’t implausible to me.
He began working with Sidney Powell via their mutual association of the forensic guys. Those guys had been working on a rigged election in Dallas (Sidney’s hometown) from 2018.
“his story rings very true”
Except one very important part doesn’t. He claims Giuliani was often drunk. He has no corroboration for that. He didn’t see it firsthand.
PDJT is a teetotaller. Do you honestly believe he will let an inebriated Rudi manage his defense if that were the case? It’s a BS smear. Legit 45 trusts him, until that changes, Rudy’s good.
Lately there been quite the uptick in people going after folks around PDJT. This is clearly intended to weaken the support the President enjoys. It will fail.
Yes, Byrne did witness Rudy’s inebriated/and alcohol breath state several times. You can read about it on his website Deep Capture.
Corroborating, as in anyone but Byrne.
And Patrick Byrne is big friends with leftist and globalist Warren Buffett.
Byrne may be sketchy, but Sidney Powell & Gen Mike Flynn were prepared to work with Patrick Byrne. Sidney Powell distanced herself from Rudy Giuliani. It think most people trust Sidney Powell.
And the fact remains that PDJT did not use the EO powers available to him. Was he trying to undermine himself? Why would the President not use his own EO powers? His actions could also be described as “sketchy”.
Whilst we rightly smite Pence, et al, for their treacherous in/actions, really, the biggest inaction was PDJT sitting on his hands, then turning his 6 Jan rally into a ‘poor me’ day.
Rocket, I would never call President Trump sketchy.
I don’t know much about Byrne. Sidney Powell is a very good lawyer and I admire her, but EO’s don’t stand up well when they are going up against The Constitutional process of installing a president. General Flynn is a patriot and a great General, but this was not a military operation.
President Trump followed every legal process afforded him under the laws of this Republic to stop the state’s certification of the election. The courts refused to hear any evidence.
What would the courts have done over using an EO to overturn the state’s certifications? What would congress have done? There was no support for Trump in any branch of government.
He also couldn’t invoke the EO powers when the DoD and military leadership was not behind him.
I suspect that what you say is true, Kaco. From the very first Trump was surrounded by people next to him who were not entirely trustworthy and who’s actual loyalties appeared to be to the GOPe/Deep State. I got the feeling that Trump was pretty much in the fight by himself.
But, to cut to the chase, in the waining days of his Presidency there was still a chance to save the republic from the fascist drift we are not experiencing.
It all came down to VP Pence. He found himself at a historical crossroad where the literal fate of the nation could have been changed by his decision to not certify an obviously stolen election. But Pence, like most people, simply couldn’t muster the courage to take his place in history by making that decision. Instead he folded. And the entire nation saw him do it. Because of his failure to act, history will not be kind to him.
Executive Orders are not edicts. It also becomes more complicated when your own DOJ actively works against you to defeat them.
Sundance- I wonder what you think of his account of what happened. The story is compelling, but you have insights that many of us don’t see.
AND………….she ended up in jail. I am suspicious cat.
Tucker did a great job skewering a progressivist/quisling buffo0n tonight. If you understand polling, if you understand a little about media production then Frank Luntz’s scam immediately becomes transparent. Basically, Luntz is a one-trick-pony. He’s been selling “focus groups” for more than a decade now but, as Tucker ferreted out tonight, what Luntz is dong is a media such-and-jive. It’s all show. Nobody should this guy seriously. Most tellingly—as shown by Tucker tonight—Luntz isn’t a conservative. He’s just another progressive flack, a never Trjumper, who just pretends to e a conservative. Tucker’s sly condescension was perfect. GO TUCKER!!
Should read “shuck=and-jive”. Sorry for the typo guys. 🙂 Sometimes my editing falls short because I can’t reliably see my errors.
My guess is Luntz lives in West Hollywood.
North West Hollywood, off the Strip I’ll bet, grrrl.
Garrison…are you saying his focus groups are nothing more than Luntz Dunce Stunts? 🙂
Yep. The guy has all the integrity of a bad used-car salesman.
Good points — especially the one that no one should take him seriously!
But the pathetic Republicans just had Luntz as their key note speaker at a conference in Orlando. There’s no hope for the republican party any more. They are completely tone deaft.
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1386740039221235712
All the top GOP leadership needs to voted out, fired, replaced. A full draino flushing. We’ve seen for years what they do, block, obfuscate, hide, give in to the Dems. Ask for more money and blow it. Enough.
Yes, Johnny, but they also hold hearings. Lots of hearings…..with drama….
and then….
crickets!
It reminds me of a survey I got from Lyin’ Paul Ryan soon after President TRUMP WON the 1st time. We had just voted in the America First platform and President, and Lyin’ Ryan sends me a survey, asking me to rank what my priorities are for the Rs for the next year, using HIS policies, not those of President-Elect TRUMP.
I knew, concrete, then and there, that Lyin’ Ryan would NEVER support President TRUMP’s America First agenda, The People’s Agenda, and he proved me right, time and time again.
Focus groups, by their very nature, FOCUS on what you want people to believe, not what they believe. Is is a TOOL to guide you where THEY want you to be, and to convey a message to the audience that you are out of touch with the real world and need to get with the program.
In other words, they are productions.
I got those, too. “A better way”
That right there.
Is Luntz a poor mans Karl Rove, or vice versa?
They are both fat creepy little protrusions, sticking out of a large corrupt malignant melanoma.
Luntz’s wigs drive me crazy… at least Rove wears is male pattern baldness with pride.
Yes to both.
Trump won.
Biden lost.
A skilled liar will mix truth with lies.
I was fooled by Mark Meadows.
It’s disgusting.
Is it just me, or do you not trust any of them either?
None of ’em!
I certainly don’t trust Cucker Tarlson. He denies that Biden was installed via electoral fraud.
I’ve never heard him deny that.
I’ve heard him level criticism at Sidney Powell for claiming she had proof while not providing that proof.
Now, you and I have heard her level the charges and I happen to believe her, but I also admit she hasn’t provided the proof.
I always felt it was because she wanted to provide the proof in a court of law and the courts were showing their corruption by refusing to let her IN court.
STill, it’s true that she didn’t actually produce the evidence (yet), just the charges.
tlhoward (re.Sidney Powell ) “STill, it’s true that she didn’t actually produce the evidence (yet), just the charges.”
I don’t know about that.
Back in December 2020, I downloaded from her site a 77MB PDF with 270 pages of documentation showing the fraud that was committed. Admittedly I have only perused it (again, now before posting this); but everywhere my eyes stopped was more “proof”. I’m not sure what must be considered to be “proof” if it isn’t in these 270 pages. Perhaps the “standard” is unrealistic.
IOW, I believe she did show “proof”; maybe not to Tucker (but the “standard” isn’t “must show Tucker”) – but she did show proof – lots of it.
JMO.
iswhatitis, the standard is must show the evidence in a court. There was plenty of evidence that the courts refused to hear.
My eyes glaze over from comments like this—> Uninformed and unbelievable.
Go back to her interview with Carlson.
She didn’t show anything, did she? She said “We know this, and we know that and we are still compiling evidence.
I thought that also, she was waiting to show it in court. “Release the Kraken” – has she said anything that Mike Lindell’s Absolute and Scientific Proof videos are the Kraken?
Any poker player knows not to show there hand up front. If she gives the proof outside the courtroom, it will give the frudsters time to destroy the evidence.
I watch Tucker every night and he has never said such a thing. He did reject the theory spun by Sidney Powell after she declined to back up her wild claims with any evidence claims that included a story about the US military raiding a server farm in Germany. Clowns like Powell, Wood, and Giuliani , did more harm to the cause of uncovering voter fraud. If only people had stuck with auditing the ballots instead of promoting theories involving Dominion Voting machines, Maduro and China.
Not true, Kieth. Watch Mike Lindell’s well produced documentary which summaries Sidney’s data. She speaks the truth.
Exactly.
Keith 2021,
Sorry to intrude.
Are you suggesting there was no conspiracy to get your real President out and this cretin installed in the CasaBlanca?
Am I to believe the media, the military, the democrats, the spy agencies, the Chinese and Wall Street together with the voting machines and vote counters were all kosher? That Sidney and others crying foul, were out of order?
As I say apologies if I miss understand.
Giuliani led the President’s team uncovering actual fraud. Please leave him off the fabulist list.
Tucker is paid by Fox and is owned by Fox. He is not the savior of conservatives and patriots. He very plainly said that the Lincoln Project was why Trump lost. It is in the interview with Rudy G . A denial of election fraud if I ever heard one.
Keith 2021 “Clowns..”
It must be carnival season.
I despise Fox.
But he may be skirting the fraudulent election topic, seeing as Dominion is suing Fox…
Carlson is all about the money….just like the rest of dc. I think Tucker is drawing MAGAS back only to pull the rug out over a Trump candidacy.
In his interview with Rudy G. Tucker said the Lincoln Project was why Trump lost. If that isn’t a lie I don’t know what is. Still spouting the lame and lying Fox meme—I agree with you!!
Chatsworth says what he is told to say.
Controlled opposition.
Plain and simple.
I think he wants “proof.” He is about to get some in the state of Arizona. Once the news network gets proof, then they can talk about it – without the lawsuits flying.
Replying to Self – proof = certified in a court of law.
Virtually all of Fox’s “big” names have to play some role in the Deep State/CIA’s media handling. You get a much better understanding of how Fox News operates if you view them as the controlled opposition media outlet, designed by the Establishment for viewers that would never ever watch CNN or MSNBC.
Fox News used to be heavily tied to the Pentagon and Military Intelligence. Many of them have shown their true colors the past five years.
Remember the Deep State has rigged the parties to offer only two flavors of government: Big government Democrat or the RINOs from the Chamber of Commerce. The colors may be different but the team is largely the same.
His report was right on target and did not shy from showing Disney’s logo in the process….and Disney is the enemy. More so than CNN or MSNBC, as it is powerful corporations like Disney that pay for adverts on CNN and MSNBC. They are the one’s that call the shots. They are the puppetmasters.
A new law should provide that news outlets must not be owned by any larger, non-news oriented corporation especially ones with business interests in China; they must be free standing.
” Carlson was always a member of the approved DeceptiCon establishment. This reversal doesn’t seem real. ”
He has always seemed like a straight arrow to me. And one who hits the target better and harder than anyone else I have heard.
I’ve followed Tucker since he was a pup, with the trademark bow tie. Might be before your time, like decades. There’s a history, but I won’t try to change the minds of new fans. As I’ve tried to explain before, Tucker is not a Conservative.
Reagan wasn’t a conservative. Carlson is a lot like Reagan. And so is Trump.
Lindsey Williams: March 27, 1980The significant fact of Reagan’s candidacy is that he operates from center ground. He is not – repeat, not – a “conservative” as the east coast columnists like to declare – as if that label was some kind of epithet.
Reagan is a new breed of populist. Sooner or later the worn out politicos who have dominated the Washington scene for four sorry decades will have to deal with Reagan on that basis.
I’ve seen Reagan in action, before live audiences and on television. He’s better when he is eye-balling it. He speaks to the working man, the truly needy on welfare, the craftsman, the small businessman. It is this majority that elected him governor of California for eight years.
The so called “fat cats” don’t know Reagan. He castigates big business, big labor and big government indiscriminately. Employees, rank-and-file union members and overburdened tax payers are his main source of support.
I have a memory of him being pro semi auto rifle bans when he was on MSNBC. I could have sworn it was him but I can’t find the footage. Maybe I am mistaking him for someone else. If any one has the footage, please post a link.
No, he is NOT what I would call a conservative in the sense that some people understand the word.
He IS, however, a person who has an appreciation for the Constitution and the rule of law AND he’s what I’d call someone who is practical, like DJT.
I believe Tucker is a Libertarian
He has spoken several time about why he left libertarianism behind.
Ugh. He’s on Fox News. He’s an entertainer hired by a giant corportist media propaganda outlet devoted to bringing you the “news” that will align you with what the global corporations want you to believe.
It’s the standard “trust me” con. They gain your trust, then tell you to vote for Nikki Haley (vomit).
tlhoward,
You just solved one of the big mysteries that determines whether I like a person or not. If you support the Constitution you have an appreciation for the rule of law and will more likely play by the rules –something conservatives are better at than liberals.
He depends on money he earns from the Fox Corp. His appreciation for the rule of law stops when it comes to admitting massive election fraud took place in Nov. 2020. Somehow that RULE doesn’t matter!
His rant had good value and was effective. Any hits on Luntz will sting the establishment.
Other than why Carlson chose to go so hard at Luntz, there’s not a lot of value in going after Tucker.
What I am saying is, that his motives are less pertinent than the double b!£€#slap that McCarthy and Luntz received.
it was sweet.
He’s a Libertarian. It doesn’t matter. He is sharing important information, and is good at it.
Age can change ones viewpoints/stance. Winston Churchill has a great quote on that ?
I’m sorry but the “conservative” brand is garbage unless you like stupid military excursions, dying factory towns or social causes which raise money but accomplish nothing.
It’s conserved nothing except jobs at think tanks, jobs for pundits (Quick: tell me ONE time General Jack Keane opposed military intervention on Fox News), political jobs and jobs for lobbyists.
America First nationalism actually DID accomplish things in 4 years of Trump UNLIKE “conservatism.”
Conservatism and nationalism aren’t mutually exclusive, you know. If even 1/4 of elected RINOs were actually fiscally and Constitutionally conservative, we wouldn’t be in the mess we are today.
Your memory is scarred with the brand of “Conservatism” that the Bushes peddled.
W and Cheney had a strangle-hold on the term.
The Bushes have never been conservatives. Old Prescott would be a Globalist, like GW if he were still alive today. Like the Cheneys they were “conservative” when it was politically expedient, tomorrow they will be democrats.
Peoria, Tucker is a self-described libertarian. I take him at his word. I just call him a wild card because you never know where he is going to come down.
Who cares about labels? He is smart, fearless and analytical.
I think he is there like Hannity so Fox gets some ratings.
Hannity gets ratings because of two groups: those who aren’t really well informed or those who like watching something so bad you can’t help it (like watching a train wreck.)
He had Chris Christie on last night.
Tick tock. Enough said.
Yep! Fox has to be judicious as they chop off heads.
They have to keep a few, as chum!!
Think back to some of the folks they and Fox Business have let go: Greta, O’Reilly, Trish Regan, Lou Dobbs, to name a few.
Okay, cutting pompous-but-moderate Bill O’Reilly simply allowed them to fill his time slot with more chum.
Lou Dobbs and Trish Regan were the two that I trusted to not peddle a co-opted message
from the puppet-masters.
When you think of Chatsworth (Tucker), he has said some things that were every bit as provocative
as Lou Dobbs or Trish Regan.
So, why has he not been cut??????????
This tells me that he is part of a strategy.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2015/03/mickey-kaus-quits-daily-caller-after-tucker-carlson-pulls-critical-fox-news-column-204135
Tucker has shown numerous times that he has no integrity. This was one of them…it relates to Sundance’s point about him pushing amnesty after the so called “autopsy”. He refused to allow any factual articles exposing/ criticizing Fox because he worked there.
Seeing how President Trump supporters are flocking to watch Tucker Carlson’s nightly openings and then extolling what they hear on their social media the next day, positing Carlson to “be the voice” for the Trump voters simply serves to give him deep cover, “a trusted voice”, so when 45 makes his move to openly run in 2024 when Carlson turns on Trump, which he will, the hope is that his hooked followers will also turn on Trump.
Deep state has mastered the use of controlled opposition. Never cared for Carlson, master at using all the right buzzwords and just as quickly extols the virtues of the opposite point of view a day or two later. Keeping people confused, angry, worried, on edge, works best if lulled with a false sense of hope creating a comfortable rug which can then be pulled out from under the target audience’s feet at the illusionist’s timing.
Which is exactly what he did in 2020, Bessie. He was a hysterical, whimpering ninny while blaming PDJT for the Chynah virus. That was the day we turned him off and haven’t looked back. I chide my MAGA friends who still tune in to F*x for giving them ratings and buying into their controlled opposition. Some people never learn.
Tucker has never blamed Trump for the covid virus. Early in the pandemic he drove to Mar-a-lago to meet with Trump and advise him it would be best if he publicly took the virus more seriously instead of downplaying it. Unfortunately Trump ignored Tuckers wise advice and instead went with the advice of Jared to just downplay it.
Absolutely correct. He also consistently defended Jeff Session’s “character” and went after Trump
repeatedly for being mean to him when he allegedly didn’t deserve it. This was AFTER Sessions was exposed for being a complicit traitor. Finally, he attacked Trump almost nightly for not pardoning Roger Stone, which of course would have been a trap if Trump had done it any sooner than he did.
I can’t believe people still watch ANYTHING on tv.
Tucker has always cared about sociology and always been a student of data. That, in and of itself, speaks to his intellectual and practical interest in why things are the way they are and who keeps them the way they are.
I don’t view him as a Trump lover or Trump hater. He’s a guy who has, like Lou Dobbs, been harping on certain issues for a very long time.
His first issue has always been that the policies we adopt are anti-family and that such policies destroy the middle class.
I’m a big reader of Charles Murray and Heather MacDonald, two scholars whose works capture what is wrong with America.
I don’t expect Tucker to be a shill for Donald Trump.
That’s not his job.
BTW, he’s also a huge reader about race and he KNOWs why there is a gap in educational achievement between black and white.
Scientists know as well.
It’s an unmentionable.
Bill Gates knows too, which is why he’s dropped the notion that lower class size will help.
I heard Thomas Sowell explain a study, I can’t currently find the video, but he explains basically it is the culture based on the results.
Very well said—A giant hug to YOU, Bessie. TY
Sundance, you are always spot on…but I have to say—I LOVED IT!!! Whatever the reason Fox allowed it, it was a get in the Republican leadership asses!!! AND I want some more!
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1386740039221235712?s=20
Yep. Back to “business as usual” for the GOP. They stole Trump’s win, and now plan on taking a dive in the next… “election”…by running a detested RINO. Only fools believe polls these days, especially Luntz polls.
Amen my friend Amen.
Didn’t President Trump say something to the effect of, “Well, Kevin, They are more upset about the election than you are!” ??
McCarthy is just the lizard that screwed over all the other lizards –so that he could be Leader.
Yep, Kevin was just putting on the MAGA show to fund raise after the election. He’s not fooling anybody.
Kevin is not all that bright either. He’s easy pickin’s for the more shrewd among the GOP.
Nary a peep out of McCarthy, nor anyone on the “right,” for the most part, about the absolute disgraceful way President Trump has been neutered by Twitter and Facebook. You’d think the RNC and congressional leaders and members with an R behind their names would be indignant and commenting daily on the unamerican treatment of a former President…but nope.
Right on cue, after Tim Scott’s rebuttal speech, I’m receiving all the old gangs donation requests in the spam folder…good old Kevin McCarthy made an appearance. Blah
It’s crystal clear, the GOP wants Trump permanently excluded and will continue to do all possible to work against patriots.
It’s all so disgusting.
I know this is off topic but, I think Giullani is an idiot and a fool. He knows the government is up is a** about his business and he doesn’t hire a cyber-security expert to protect his data and be proactive if they try to sieze his stuff. Dunb s***.
You assume that he didn’t.
Maybe bc he’s a lawyer and has nothing to hide.
Nothing from Victoria Toesing or Joe diGenova yet. (They were also raided.)
Something PDJT really needs to work on – having a stable of younger, sharp lawyers at hand. The Septegenarian crowd can advise, but rarely go to war.
I heard Rudy months and months ago tell Bannon on War Room that he knew that the FBI would come with warrants at some point
He knew. I wouldn’t worry about it.
They would never send a large troop of armed FBI goons to raid the “cyber-security experts” home and business, ruin his Company, intimidate his family, bankrupt him, arrest and confine him in solitary till he sings, would they?
You forgot “.. and a drunk ..”.
Not that I believe it, or what you posted – but that’s typically part of the trashing. You forgot it.
Last night on Newsmax Giullani seemed a bit “off” when Greg Kelly was interviewing him. He wouldn’t shut up and Kelly couldn’t get a word in edgewise. He was on a ramble that was a little hard to follow.
My thoughts were he is either very angry and worked up, which is understandable considering what just happened to him, or maybe he had too much to drink at dinner time.
Does anyone know of those rumors are true he cannot hold his liquor or is it another smear job?
For a seasoned professional lawyer and former successful politician I thought he could have done a better job getting his message across.
You didn’t forget.
I am reading the very few comments posted and unlike you… really? seriously?… going there…? I mean Tucker is doing exactly what I would hope he would do… what is your beef with Tucker?
He is fighting the fight that most other media ignores night after night… you don’t like him?… whatever…whatever… you guys need to get over that… you don’t have a show on our cable news… you need to stop blowing yourselves up…
He has done far more than any of you will ever have done in your life for the Patriot cause…
Ever…
Put your beer down and go to bed.
You must be new to politics.
Tucker Carlson was part of the disinformation campaign for the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform bill. Carlson was pitching amnesty. Use the links in the post above. You’ll see all the details.
Also….
Go back and look at Carlson’s monologues at the beginning of the COVID hysteria. He was demanding President Trump shut down the economy for weeks. Carlson was pushing panic…. the exact opposite of where he was by the end of the year. Go watch them.
Maybe you forget how many people died because of Covid.
Maybe you haven’t suffered the tragedies many of us have because of it.
Last I read, yearly total deaths haven’t changed.
And might I add that there are indeed people who die from Covid even if they aren’t old and even if they have none of the co-morbidities often listed. We know know, of course, that the viral load is of great importance which is why if one is around others it benefits them to not talk in close proximity for an extended period.
Sounds like the flu. Not even close to the fatality rate of Spanish flu. There are also death stats for people thrown out of work due to the shutdown but like anything having to do with information, it is massively distorted by the media. This is not the black death but we are letting the government act like it is.
Duh !
The difference is that WE HAVE A VACCINATION FOR H1N1 and we also know enough of it to be able to make flu serum quickly for its variants.
Some younger people get cancer. At least they used to.
I have. I lost my beloved husband too soon.
Me to Pixie.
I offer my condolences.
I was kept out of the hospital for 3/4th of 2020 as my sister, for whom I was a caregiver the last 5 years of her life, went in and out for her ailments.
The last time she left by ambulance, she never came home.
She spent a week in the hospital while I tried to understand the changes in her meds. She was unable to advocate for herself. I had done that for years, making sure the doctors (“hospitalists” they now call them–God I hate this new system) knew this and that and making sure the meds were correct.
She was going to go to the convalescent facility across the street from the hospital, a place she had been twice before in the last 5 years, to get physical therapy so she get her legs under her again.
She left that night at 6 pm and was dead by 9 am the next morning.
She had called me in a panic at about 8 the night she left the hospital. The nurse and aid at the convo home were doing the usual protocols for a patient who was just admitted. My sister was in the middle of a huge panic attack, something she had dealt with for years.
Previous to Covid, when she was transferred to a facility I was always with her and made sure precautions (including the right anxiety med) were taken so she wouldn’t freak out. When she was in the hospital I visited twice day and of course, was with her for every ER visit.
This time, I reassured her OVER THE DAMN PHONE RATHER THAN BEING THERE BY HER SIDE, that they’d give her meds for anxiety.
I found out the next morning when they called to tell me they had found her unresponsive, that no script had come over from the hospital for that RX.
I could go on, but I’ll stop there. We don’t really even know how and why she died.
I’m sorry, pixie, very, very sorry for your loss.
Maybe you forget how many people died because of the seasonal virus that occurs EVERY EFFING year.
Maybe you forget how many people died because they committed suicide because they had to close their businesses and could not feed their families because of the PLANNED COMMUNIST CHINESE virus this year.
If you were in good health, YOU. HAD. NOTHING. TO. WORRY. ABOUT.
99% of people who contacted the virus recovered, DUH !
Your business should never have been forced to shut down because some people were in poor health.
Sorry to be so frank but, I work out every day, eat well and I am NOT responsible for your poor health.
I believe in personal responsibility and self-reliance. I don’t need Big Government to help me.
You forget IN THE BEGINNING of the chaos that there had not been enough data collected from any nation to really know what to do.
Once they “announced” that healthy young people were not going to DIE from it, I was loud in my support of lifting shut-downs.
I happen to live in a county that had among the first cases in CA. The cases spread from Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) to neighboring counties.
BTW, I never said I was in poor health.
I can tell you this as well, since Fauci and the CDC have NOT told you: One of the reasons HEALTHY PEOPLE WHO ARE RELATIVELY YOUNG get Covid and yes, get very sick and hospitalized with it is that they are pre-diabetic OR diabetic.
The nation is suffering an epidemic of type 2 diabetes because of their carb-heavy eating. a substantial % of teens in American are already pre-diabetic or diabetic.
The thing is these millions of Americans DO NOT KNOW THEY ARE on the cusp of diabetes, living with glucose spikes (at which point, they are susceptible to pathogens of all kinds) or outright already diabetic. And no, they do NOT have to be fat to be diabetic or pre-diabetic.
Any pathogen replicates more easily in those with high glucose. Millions of young Americans, from teens to those in early mid-life 40s are walking around with this silent killer and the high blood pressure that often accompany it.
Interestingly, the number of pneumonia and seasonal flu cases dramatically dropped.
hmmmm……
You know, I would try to go into the fraud of people dying of heart attacks, car accidents, etc.,
and having COVID placed on their death certs.,
but…
if you have actually had someone near you die (legitimately) of COVID,
nothing I could say would ease your pain or sway your opinion.
God Bless YOU!
What is true is, that a lot of people died” With Covid”, and not” OF Covid”. The total U.S. deaths in 2020, were not 500,000 greater than in 2019. Hospitals were paid “extra” for recording deaths by Covid on the death certificates. A SHAM to keep us scared, locked up, separated, and controlled. Still continueing, despite vaccines, and herd immunity. ON top of that, the survival rate is around 98.7%.
Sorry about the flag. I touched the right side of my iPad. It happens every time ?
THANK YOU!!!
I changed my politics years ago. Millions have.
I don’t think you are remembering how little we knew about the virus back then, Sundance.
Consider what was going on in Italy.
I am a huge reader of science blogs, blogs on which scientists post. Many of them were discussing the math of the contagion and it was frightening TO THEM.
It’s hardly fair to compare where the scientists were “at the beginniing of the COVID hysteria” with “where [they are] by the end of the year.
The difference? Research and data, lots and lots of data.
And lots and lots of deaths, as well.
After we knew much more, he had Dr. Siegel on night after night to pimp Remdesvir (which does have side effects and isn’t as effective) and lie that Hydroxychloroquine had dangerous side effects and was an unproven drug. He admitted his own cardiac patient father , in his 90’s, was on deaths door and was miraculously saved by the hydroxychloroquine protocol yet spouted lies unchallenged by Tucker.
I don’t recall any anti-HCQ, especially not from Siegel who believes it saved his father’s life.
Also as the truth about the “temporary” shutdown began to emerge, Tucker gave voice to the ridiculousness of the various state governments’ dictates.
I will have to relook at TC’s positions on amnesty.
But even though I disagree with Tucker vehemently at times, I do get information from him. He has guests that give non-liberal viewpoints and non-decepticon viewpoints (even from some liberals) which I appreciate.
I think that even if Tucker’s content is controlled to some degree, the information he reports is valuable in destroying both liberal and decepticon lies in the minds of the silent and/or moderates.
Lots of trolls circulating tonight, Sundance.
I agree. Extraordinary number of under the bridge dwellers.
Yup
Thank goodness I’m not the only one seeing them . Off topic and out of their freaking minds.
The big tell is when they go harder after the peripheral characters, than focussing on the main story. Transparent and desperate.
The Tucker of today is a totally different person from the Tucker of just a decade ago. The other night he said the immigration act of 1965 was the biggest threat to democracy since the civil war (not January 6th). It takes an enormous amount of courage for Tucker to say such a thing (even with his massive ratings). Who else with a major MSM platform would come close to saying such a thing?
Tucker knows that everyone on the left and a good portion on the right are trying to pull him off the air. He know groups like the ADL are watching everything he says looking for an opportunity to pounce and call him racist or “anti-Semitic” and demand he be pulled off the air and that his advertisers should be boycotted .
Every night Tucker takes positions that are not only unpopular on the left but with the establishment right and no doubt his bosses, the Murdoch’s.
Tucker is the most courageous person on air today and one of the few with any integrity.
The alternative/free media I follow closest in Norway presents T.C as the ultimate jedi from the light side of the force, and show long parts of his programs uncut (Document.no / Document TV -still on youtube for the time being).
The entire legacy media here consider any notions of fraud in your 2020 elections as pure bs and maybe fascist scheming… I mean ANY notion of voter fraud, not just large enough to turn the outcome in itself but also any report of irregular stuff at all.
It´s almost as if the norwegian media are part of some kind of coup… same with danish and swedish media and almost all english-language media, from BBC to DW to F5 and then across the pond.
My view is that we do not need to agree on all matters to be allies, and Tucker Carlson is really easy to like seen from utterly leftwing Norway.
I’m not sure, but should we damn someone for positions they held in the past, before receiving newer information? I’m not sure about Tucker, but what current evidence do you have. However, I am curious about Fox promoting him.
Anyone whose positions change with the wind is not trustworthy. There’s something else at play with him and Fox that triggers my suspicious cat too. He seems totally in his element when Dems are in power, almost like he’s been assigned the role of “speaking truth to power” when they’re in charge because it hooks so many conservative viewers and extra high ratings. His treatment of Sidney Powell told me all I needed to know about him — so I will not tune in and contribute to his ratings.
Sundance, this Axios article claims Luntz is pushing an immigration compromise. Citizenship for dreamers and border security. Public opinion points to immigration compromise: Dreamer protection plus border security (yahoo.com)
I see it as just another crooked deal like the one Reagan fell for. But could it be going too far for FOX?
I’ll be going back through your links. It’s all so confusing out there.
Who do you believe?
Who do you trust?
What games are being played?
It seems to me that both parties want the RESET agenda. The GOP seems to be trying to get us there via stealth and the DEMS are in your face about it. I can’t imagine money, big money buying me to destroy my own country.
I always have to wonder, how they go to the point where money could have that kind of sway over them. What about the future of their kids and grand kids? Why don’t they care about them?
Don’t they realize they will never have enough money for the suicidal future they are pushing? Why not take the opposite tact and continue to keep the U.S. as a world leader with integrity? At one time we had that stature.
OTOH it makes me so angry and OTOH it makes me so sad to see what continues to go on.
Agree with most of what you say. But on ‘who to trust’, read from multiple variety of sources, play it back against your core principles and beliefs, then make your own decisions. In other words trust your self.
As Lincoln said of Grant, “He fights!”
And people who demand what they regard as perfection in their allies, will end up with no allies at all.
There’s a difference between an ally and wolf in sheep’s clothing.
That’s some grade-A trolling right there. I guess if I didn’t read so many comments across so many sites I wouldn’t see the mastery. You even got Sundance to reply to you! Outstanding work! Totally tone deaf, anti-policy, and pro-propaganda. But the good news is: you have been noticed!
Maybe follow your own advice.
um, you might want to put YOUR beer down and go to bed after that statement , start paying attention to whats been going on
“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”Mark Twain.
You have a lot of brass but no brains to go with it.
Frank Luntz/ Kevin McCarthy friendship— that explains so much.
We have another Paul Ryan on our hands.
Amen..and we certainly can’t afford another Lyin Ryan.
Yep, McCarthy is a Dem posing as a conservative
Reread Sundance’s “Understanding” today. and reorient your priorities.
Kevin McCarthy was hand picked by Paul Ryan to succeed Ryan. McCarthy occasionally sounded very pro MAGA but his actions and statements when the President needed some high level Republican support for primary MAGA legislation and policies were those of a smooth double talking traitor.
I agree completely that McCarthy is a smooth double-talking UniParty prostitute.
In addition – I don’t think he’s very bright, so that’s something useful.
I get this opinion from Peter Navarro, whose judgement I trust almost as much as I do the (actual) President’s. Dr. Navarro does not suffer fools gladly.
Yes. If Pete Navarro is not a fan of McCarthy then that seals it- McCarthy is a schmuck.
Yes.
First of all I mean no disrespect to any bow tie or those who wear one.
Tucker has always been a pretentious bow tie wearing DC slime ball and holy-ur then thou grammar police detective who has made fun of many. He has sat there and admitted more then once that he is a Demorat and he is no different then worthless Frank and He has worked for the enemy of freedom most of his working life and FNC is allowing him to do this for a reason.
#1 rating is why they are allowing him to expose corruption. Without his show they have nothing.
I really don’t know what to think about Tucker, but I will say that #1 rating did not stop Fox from taking Lou Dobbs off Fox Business. And whereas I don’t know exactly what to think about Tucker, we all always knew what to think about Lou Dobbs!! Lou was on President Trump’s side — and they did not allow him to stay on the air regardless of his large fan base and ratings.
Lou Dobbs dared to cover the voting machine fraud. That is taboo for anyone at Faux News.
We miss him. Lou was one of the good guys you could count on.
I hope everyone caught the recent car interview with Lou, it was a delight.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/lou-dobbs-live-from-his-car/
Nope. He was a libertarian.
So, both Tucker and Fox continue to make $$$!
Chatsworth is pretty good at exposing some of the creepy lizards in D.C.,
but I have yet to forget how he turned on President Trump after the election.
Even so, I usually watch to see if someone else has been exposed. News is so hard to come by, these days.
(Hat tip to our dear Rush for so appropriately naming Chatsworth)
Try OAN and Epoch Times.
NewsMax, not so much.
I like NewsMax. Actually, l like two or three talking heads over there, and have dropped Fox almost completely. Newsmax is reliably conservative, and has some fresh perspectives on what is happening.
I enjoy Greg Kelley and Rob Schmidt on Newsmax. They are great!
Bob Sellers is -500,000 rating points and negates anything positive on Snooze Max. The fact they dropped Howie Carr at 4pm for Bob Sellers is all you need to know.
NewsMax got on my squish list when it caved to Dominion and so refused to cover the stolen election.
I saw something yesterday (don’t know the details) about it settling with Dominion.
When a “news and opinion” outlet won’t talk about our Constitutional Republic being overthrown (I’m praying only temporarily) by a color revolution / coup – and the installation of a CCP puppet regime – why should I trust them?
Voting machine fraud is also not allowed to be covered on NewMax.
It just got worse re: NewsMax – total cave:
https://www.oann.com/newsmax-settles-dominion-lawsuit-issues-retraction-on-2020-coverage/
Hello Kitty, I miss Rush, The Link: Why Chatsworth Osborne, Jr.? – The Rush Limbaugh Show
Thank you. I do not trust Carlson at all. Luntz exposed himself big-time in the Hunter emails, but no one said much about it. He’s a creep, but FOX has always fawned over him and his “focus” groups.
I could not believe my ears with the tenacity tucker took Fluntz to the woodshed.
We now only check in with tucker occasionally.
Do I trust anyone in the news? No. But tonight Tucker was allowed to exposé Fluntz, who by the way looks physically repugnant at times.
Tucker did at least say 3 times he liked Fluntz.
That was weird.
Saying he likes Luntz is supposed to reassure you he is being objective and he has reporting
integrity. That is up in the air for me. I know Sundance pays more attention and has more connections and inside information than I do, so I value Sundances’s opinions more.
Funny thing, during Christmas I was watching an old VHS tape that had some of Rush’s TV shows on it (late 1994-early 1995) and Frank was in the audience. Rush gave him a shout out and gave him credit for his surveying of what Americans wanted which helped the Republicans make huge gains in the November 1994 election. Seems Frank was always on the uni-party gravy train.
Frank Luntz has always creeped me out. He is a fat, gross, unkempt slob, w/long fingernails, that makes me think he smells of the Beast and her cabbage odor that Podesta claimed she has. The WH images in his home explains a great deal, just as it did w/Glenn Beck.
Somewhere in the cobwebs of my mind I recall Luntz being called when Cantor went down. Luntz went out for a steak w/a bunch of these goons to try to figure out what to do. It is really scary how this mentally deranged personality has so much power in our country, but alas, our country is full of these types.
Is it “power” or just loathing curiosity?
Power. Remember, he is in the media business, the business of persuasion in exchange for money.
Agree. He is physically repellent, an odd choice for a TV pollster.
Spot on Sundance.
For sure he is not the only political consultant for the Republicans that is an imbed.
W is working with Koch brother to push amnesty and cheap labor.
Never liked/trusted the creep known as Frank.
Suspicious of Tucker always!
Very interesting.
I wrote off Tucker right after the election, once it was clear he was towing the Fox corporate line to pretend that the election wasn’t stolen, and that any discussion of same was verboten.
Since then I’m aware that folks still love his monologues (I don’t watch Fox at all now – give me OAN). And apparently some are very good – as this one is, one the surface. I’ve attributed that to the Fox Pooh Bahs told him that he has a long leash (other than the election steal / CCP-backed coup) – because after watching their ratings crater as Trump supporters left en masse they wanted to salvage what remained. Tucker has given some folks reason to stick around.
Luntz used to be a fixture on Fox – so I don’t think Tucker would have gone there unless there is some other reason why Fox and Luntz have had a falling out.
Also, the real target may be Kevin McCarthy — he’s not prize, but has had some disagreements with Liz Cheney (who presumably has the full backing of the GOPe).
You might he on to something about taking McCarthy out….
Interesting take that McCarthy may be the target since he is not as supportive of Liz now. I wouldn’t trust any of them now.
I trust President Trump and very few others I could count on one hand. Since I have despised Frank Luntz for a very long time…I wouldn’t care if crazy Nancy Pelosi took him down.
Fox News is 50-75% GOPe from 6-9 am on Fox and Friends and 100% GOPe from 9 am until 8 pm.
Then Tucker for 60 minutes at 8pm and back to GOPe Hannity at 9 pm and then mostly GOPe with Ingraham and Gutfeld from 10 pm – 12 am.
They know Liz is going down but taking McCarthy out on her way down would be a very Murdoch thing to do.
The Murdoch’s are very much GOPe and their programming reflects it.
They still operate in the Bush GOPe era on Fox News and throw Trump voters some crumbs for ratings and the avoiding of a total ratings collapse.
If you don’t believe me, consider:
1. Dana Perino is employed there.
2. Neal Cavuto and his Bush era Wall Street corporatism is employed there.
3. General Jack Keane and his Bush era neocon-ism is employed there.
Tucker had (has? I stopped watching) a weekly segment with Dana Perino last year. He claims he has 100% control of his show. Why would he promote her? She is anti MAGA, anti populist, pro globalist, anti-Trump. As far as I can remember, he never debated or challenged her.
Tony, You had me with Dana Perino. 🙂
4. Chrissy Wallace is employed there.
5. The water buffalo is employed there.
Keane for at least the last few years has been very much a Trump praiser.
They know Liz is going down but taking McCarthy out on her way down would be a very Murdoch thing to do.
Wow. I totally missed any pushback McCarthy has made against the abominable Liz. When did that happen? Last I heard he was happy letting her continue her power plays.
If he goes down with her I will not be crying. I do think he is Paul Ryan II.
Gosh what a sleeze Luntz is. Epitome of the corrupt media.
Funny how Tucker calls him a nice guy at the end and that’s Tucker showing what he is. Frank and his wig or hairpiece look as fake as his his fake polls.
I would bet if there was a true poll here on immigration and the 2nd amendment frank would be proven wrong because illegals should ALL be removed from this country after cutting all of their freebies
A big reason why native Native Californians are fleeing the state. Over 5 Million illegal immigrants.
I think you misunderstand the phrase “nice guy” as he uses it.
Some people are, even upon first meeting and in subsequent meetings, rude or vulgar or dismissive or condescending (fill in with other “negatives”) assholes.
I believe Carlson uses “nice guy” to describe people with whom he has conversed and who are not any of those things in conversations with them.
Nothing at Fox or anything like it makes it to the teleprompter by accident.
I believe that Fox and Carlson have been given the green light on attempting to drive any wedge they can between the GOP and conservative voters.
The controlled opposition is just that—controlled, and by extension, controlling.
And just maybe Carlson is like us in one regard–actually frightened by what the LEFT has achieved and what they still have planned.
Noticed that as his show opened, Hannity seemed peeved .
Perhaps he was watching the audience numbers tracker plummet yet again after Tucker’s send off.
You win the thread with this. Great observation.
I can only assume this is some sort of splinter operation for the GOP.
Or, as Mitch McConnell named it “robust competition”??
Well, ask yourself this: Did he say anything in that monologue that isn’t true regarding the GOP and how the leaders of it view MAGA supporters?
Tucker lost me when he embarassed Sidney Powell. …
Then I knew he had no character and was controlled opposition, like Bill Mahr recently reeeling in the reality of leftist in his show ( he will balance out as needed)
Tucker did that interview with Biden Business partner- all the documents that Tucker had on Hunter suddenly went missing. Tucker reappears on the following Monday to mention he knew Hunter from years before— that they lived in the same apartment complex.
That was some really odd stuff.
Maybe Luntz’s luck has just run out
He appears to have some kind of relationship with Hunter Biden
How can Kevin McCarthy, GOP, or FOX be found near that?
Frank Luntz chummie with Hunter. Rinos is being led and maintained as controlled opposition.
Sometimes I find myself “enjoying” Tucker’s show. But at the back of mind these daze is what Dr. Shiva said about him on so many of his interviews. Which boils down to Dr. Shiva calling Tucker a CARPETBAGGER.
Fox News knows exactly what they are doing. Giving Tucker free reign to say whatever he wants on any subject. Especially because Tucker dishes it out in his own style of hysteria mongering. Tucker keeps up the Fox ratings. Period.
As far as I am concerned, Frank Lutz , or whoever it is, needs to go on a diet. on so many levels. Tucker could have saved us his rant by merely asking, “where does Frank get his MONEY?” Frank is definitely LIVING LARGE on so many levels. As they used to say, a “PIG” at the trough.
The Pillow guy can be too religious and over promised on his website, but I still trust Sidney Powell.
I also trust lawyers Ron Coleman and Harmeet Dhillon… I read the former primarily on Twitter.
If I recall, Mr. Coleman was angry at the Trump camp for not having enough lawyers on the ground to fight the election, and specifically lawyers who knew election law. (He may be one.) He’s also funny.
(He recently linked to John Kerry collecting $5 M from the Chinese.)
https://mobile.twitter.com/RonColeman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
All lawyers were pressured to resign. Remember? What not enough lawyers was he blubbing about?
From a journalistic standpoint, she made accusation after accusation, said she would shortly thereafter produce the evidence, but didn’t.
tlhoward “From a journalistic standpoint, she made accusation after accusation, said she would shortly thereafter produce the evidence, but didn’t.”
I agree to disagree. Ref. my earlier reply to an earlier post of yours (above).
I am talking about her appearances.
Tucker isn’t a journalist in this role, though. He’s an opinion host.
Who believes otherwise? He has stated exactly that on his show, more than once.
See the comment above “from a journalistic standpoint”…..
He’s a commentator during some segments, but there are “journalistic ethics” that should be followed in an interview, don’t you think?
I sure don’t want another Hannity who wouldn’t know a respectable interview if he saw one.
I don’t trust Fox anymore than I do CNN, etc. and haven’t watched them in ages. I may watch clips that appear here on CTH, but even then I often can’t watch til the end. Was the case with this one of Tucker. He’s showed his true colors too many times.
Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell, Liz Cheney, Romney, Murkowski, Kinsinger and all the other contemptible anti Trump Republicans with personal agendas and special benefactors are still keeping the idea of forming a 3rd party alive. But the JoeBama monster needs to be stopped ASAP.
Tucker’s excoriation of Luntz and the GOP was excellent.
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A side story. When I activated the recording of Tucker’s show a few minutes of Tammy Bruce came on the screen. She looked more bright and beautiful than ever and the street scene of NY also was much clearer and brighter. I finally realized that my cable provider has finally upgraded FNC to HD without informing me.
Frank Putz is a dimocrat operative, clearly a textbook case of delusional narcissistic personality disorder, good for Tucker exposing that fraud who should be no where near the R party leadership.
This take-down was epic and is the reason why I never miss Tucker at 8 PM . I don’t think Tucker was instructed by management to do this. He has said that management never interferes with the stories he cover’s and I believe him. His monster ratings give him the ability to do what he wants. Tucker will be the first to admit that he used to dutifully tow the party line. He admits he was once a cheerleader for the Iraq war but year’s later deeply regrets that. I believe Tucker has changed a great deal from his early days and refuses to shill for the deep state any more. It is not unusual for him to go against the narrative being pushed on other FOX programs. You really notice this in his opposition to insane wars that all of his other colleagues enthusiastically promote. He has often attacked groups like the SPLC and ADL – groups that the Murdoch family donates to. I suspect the reason why Tucker did this now is the GOP invited Luntz to give the keynote address at their recent confab in Orlando. It will be interesting to see if in the future Hannity and Ingraham continue to bring on Luntz to conduct on-air focus groups.
No disrespect but there is no chance Tucker has free reign with his show. Bill O’Reilly used to say that too, even after he was outed for attending the RINO meeting to promote amnesty and endless immigration.
If Tucker was completely aboveboard, he would have been silenced like Lou.
Good comment Keith. Suspicious cat is wise, but suspicion needs to allow the possibility of genuine change. My worldview has changed since 2016. I suspect there are millions like me.
Tucker is serving ‘some’ purpose for the Global Communist Deep State, or he would not be allowed on television; is-what-it-is
Tucker is the Ron Paul of the controlled media.
I think Luntz is some sort of Psyops for Google the GOPe Corporatism. President Trump exposed them and I believe that will continue so there is hope.Thank you SD that was worth watching.
Pure conjecture on my part.
Would Fox be punishing Luntz for his role in the election night poll disaster that caused a huge loss of viewers? Calling states early for Bribem?
Maybe they’re using Luntz as an excuse for the way they handled election night? Not that Fox didn’t know and plan exactly what they did on election night, but pretending they were “mislead” by Luntz.
Tucked begins the monologue stating the GOPe doesn’t share the same values and concerns on issues embraced by the MAGA base.
It’s not that the GOPe is bad and out of touch with the base, but rather they were just misled by trusted sources like like Luntz.
It’s not the fault of people like Liz Cheney, Nicki Haley and others think the way they do, it’s because they were given bad advice.
Luntz is discredited with the base, and having served his purpose, is expendable.
My guess is Paul Ryan’s fingerprints are all over this.
Interesting take, I don’t discount it either.
Oh, man, interesting analysis. The GOP is using Luntz as a scapegoat. Really.
On reflection, the binary politics of the US is disconcerting.
Carlson is a valuable articulate voice who doesn’t toe the narrative exactly but never-the-less is someone I have little disagreement with.
He’s allowed to have some policy peccadillos and personal likes that infringe on his credentials for conservatives.
(in the same way PDJT was no conservative in economic policy).
IMHO what we just witnessed with this unexpected character assassination of Luntz by Carlson may well be Fox trying to distance themselves from Luntz’s legal troubles as noted by Tucker towards the end.
What Tucker said about Luntz and the GOPe is proof that Fox has known these truths all along. Tucker after all did recount some history behind Luntz and the GOP’s actions versus their rhetoric.
So this just confirms that FNC has been shielding the GOP corporatists for some time. The media company is also out of favor with a lot of Trump voters. So an infrequent conservative bullseye in the program messaging serves two purposes here. Makes Carlson attractive to some voters while putting some political real estate between the company and a potential liability.
That’s a pretty good reading of the political tea leaves, GB Bari. (I mean that as a compliment.)
I was wondering if Tucker was going to break ranks with Liberal FOX network, and tonight he took the first step.
I’m sure Tucker was told by many people over the last 6 months that FOX network was responsible for getting rid of Trump, by calling Arizona for Biden! And we are seeing Arizona recount investigation in the news the last week.
Tucker could have turned the election big time towards Trump if he had stepped up to the plate to investigate election fraud! But instead he kept quiet and even made fun of Trump’s lawyers investigating fraud.
I believe Tucker is down 40 percent compared to before the election, after he went against MAGA! And Tucker sees how FOX is really going big time towards the LEFT more and more each day!
What is Tucker’s choice, be a coward, like he has been the last 6 months, or , stand up and go down swinging, and regain his position as someone who confronts the LEFTISTS.
My suspicion is this will circle back on Mcarthy and his supposed support of Trump.
McCarthy supports President Trump?
Luntz’s reaction to TC’s monologue:
“That explains all the angry, misspelled messages in my inbox tonight.”
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1388288078712692737?s=20
Frank Luntz’s life-sized replica Oval Office is apparently in his bedroom. And includes Bill Clinton’s humidor.
Also he’s advising Congressional Republican Leadership (Kevin McCarthy) about what Republican voters want.
2022 victory is assured!
Just sayin’, I think there are enough clues about Luntz’ private life to suggest he doesn’t care about the “ladies.”
I watched Luntz on 2016 election night on the Katie Couric show on Yahoo. He made a pretty fool of himself predicting DT’s loss and the future of the GOP.
«Frank Luntz
@FrankLuntz
Replying to
@FrankLuntz
In case I wasn’t clear enough from my previous tweets:
Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States.
#ElectionNight
6:43 PM · Nov 8, 2016 from Manhattan, NY·Twitter for iPhone»
Their algorithm failed them, AND Florida was on to their scam. They got shut down there befofre the polls even opened that morning.
They didn’t cheat big enough. That is why their 2020 slogan was:
#GoBigOrGoHome
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#WideMargins
#NoRecounts
It is why they are fighting the recounts, audits and court cases so hard.
It is why they put in all the safeguards they did last year. Shutting down early was planned well in advance by the SoSs and their minions. I have proof. Shutting down dissenting opinions and voices by calling it “mis- and dis- information”, including the President of the United States, the Republican Nominee for the President of the United States. Tiny techs false and fake flags on free speech everywhere. Media at every level shutting down real conversations and concerns.
Never forget that Faux threw this race too. And it was NOT their 1st time. Their morning krew asked President TRUMP the morning of the election, What are you going to do WHEN you lose?
It was always planned that AP would call the race(s)/election(s). I have proof. My guess is that the states were then divvied up and Faux was given AZ. They took their call from AP.
It’s the self-fulfilling prophecy of circular reporting.
If a race, game, match, whatever, is found to be thrown in sports people actually go to jail.
Publicly traded companies are audited on a quarterly basis. It is time for the same from USA INC.
Luntz is worse than a putz, he’s a saboteur. In the 90s, he advised the GOP leaders (Kevin McCarthy) in CA to drop the immigration issue immediately after they won control of the legislature based solely on that issue. Repubs have lost every election ever since. No way Luntz is that stupid.
They’re getting Tucker out in front of the blowback they’re gonna get for calling Arizona
I watched Tucker before the election and he had fire in his step, and was happy being a Warrior for truth.
After the election, Tucker changed, and was subdued and over the last 6 months, seems like he knows he’s faking it and his heart is not into it.
I got the feeling he knows in his heart of hearts he made a big mistake in not at least investigating election fraud and doing deep investigations with a team he could trust to investigate and probe.
If Tucker does change, and repent in his heart, to do the right thing, according to his GUT feeling, he could come out of this a better man. He will have to truly get honest with his viewers, and talk about what was happening behind the scenes.
Let’s see if Tucker starts to speak truth again, or if he retreats to play it safe. It is a struggle we all know personally and it’s hard to know if this is the HILL we will go down swinging, in defense of Truth, or hid in the foxhole. And retreat to fight another day.
I think some people in this community and other simpatico communities (patriots.win, etc.) wrongly demonized Tucker in the aftermath of The Great Steal of 11/3/20.
I believe with every fibre of my being that the election of 2020 was stolen by the Democrats. But I also believe that the evidence put forward by my side was too scattershot* to be judicially effective within the extremely limited time frame of the post-election period (approx. 6 weeks from Election Day to “Safe Harbor Day”).
Tucker dropped the story after Sidney Powell refused to provide him with any substantive support for the extraordinary claims that she had been making to that point.
Once Powell demonstrated that she was unable to support her claims, he simply noted that fact and moved on. I thought Tucker’s response was very reasonable.
*The bottom line is that the Democrats were playing for blood long before 11/3/20 and the Republicans were just playing. One side planned an evil, undemocratic, but masterful strategy and the other side rolled over, which is all that the GOP seems to excel at.
Your * says it all.
Baines, good post, there were too many cooks in the kitchen without a single message about the evidence to be presented in court. Every day tweets, statements from all kinds of entities, some of them silly and unbelievable without the evidence to back them up.
The most salient point was there wasn’t time to get the evidence that was needed, access to the ballots and the voting machines. The democrat steal just steamrolled over any dissent and once the states certified the results, it was a done deal.
Caddell was a pollster.
Luntz is a Multinational owned toupeed cluster of pond scum.
Luntz is a copywrite pollster. Makes up pretty words that pretend to back up his fake polls. Why doesn’t he release all the data of his ”polls”? Let’s take a look at his research.
Love suspicious cat, he gets it
He puts up the logos of Disney, Delta, Coca-Cola and other powerful corporations…and not in a sympathetic way. That’s pretty ballsy in an industry that relies upon corporate sponsorship/advertisers.
As for Luntz, I don’t think he is a leftist, I think he is a Luntzist. He gets paid big bucks to teach Republican politicians how to present a globalist-friendly narrative to the conservative base., so they can undermine the desires and interests of their constituents, but still get reelected.
It’s been long enough that Fox corporate (punks like boy Ryan) think Trump supporters are starting to forget how they stabbed us and America in the back when it counted. Trying to rebuild their ratings after the aforementioned disaster.
Why Luntz Why now? Simple – he’s a usefull idiot that has outlived his usefullness. Waiting in the wings….
Something personal between the two of them. ?
Frank Luntz DeceptiConArtist member of the uniparty who manufactures the content they want their propagandists to pontificate. What happens if election fraud is exposed.