In the 2022 Senate races there are 34 seats up for grabs. 14 are held by Democrats and 20 are held by tenuous Republicans. [Breakdown Here] Due to vulnerability, their lack of support amid the republican base, and their insufferable 2020 behavior outing them as DeceptiCons it is almost guaranteed the GOP will lose seats in the 2022 mid-term election.
As a consequence Senators Richard Burr (NC), Ron Johnson (WI) and Pat Toomey (PA) had previously mentioned they were not going to seek reelection; now Senator Rob Portman (OH) makes the same announcement:
OHIO – On Monday, Sen. Rob Portman and his wife, Jane, walked into a room resplendent with ornate art deco murals and fixtures in the Hilton Netherland Plaza in downtown Cincinnati.
Portman briefly reminisced with reporters about ice skating in that very room as a child. Then, the Republican from Terrace Park took the stage and announced an end to his three decades in politics.
Portman, 65, won’t seek re-election next year but will serve out his term that ends on Jan. 3, 2023. (read more)
Things amid the DeceptiCon caucus are getting interesting. With four GOP senators having announced they’re not running (Burr, Johnson, Toomey, Portman) there’s essentially zero chance of the GOP retaking control of the Senate in 2022. [20 R seats up & only 14 D seats that are in solid D strongholds] it is far more likely the Democrats will gain seats, so keep this in mind….
…When we think about forming a third party, the “you will split the vote” crew always peddles their vote split narrative. However, the GOP doesn’t have a chance in hell to win 2022 given what the base of the Republicans think about these senate DeceptiCons now.
There has never been a better time for a New Party to launch and capture three or four seats from the retiring GOPe crew. It would be great to see true MAGA representatives that can caucus with Republicans but hold ground on America First principles.
And someone needs to primary Lisa Murkowski again.
After looking at the Senate seats up for grabs in 2022, I have to disagree a bit with SD’s take on this. There are really only 7 seats that one would consider in play and that breaks down to 3 GOP (PA, WI, NC) and 4 Dem (AZ, NV, GA, NH).
On the one hand, the GOP is certainly capable of screwing things up and making a mess out of what should easy wins in Alaska and Ohio. But on the other hand, Biden is a complete screw up, which should lead to a huge lean in the GOP’s direction.
Candidate recruitment is key to 2022.
For the Senate there needs to be the following objectives. 1. Flip the states like GA that can be flipped 2. Primary the old GAGA (go along to get along) old guard such as Thune and Murkowski, and send a message in doing so. The primary shouldnt even be close. The third item and equally important is eliminate open voting systems like Dominion in all states as they are a foreign owned entity and their systems allow for the capability to run production elections in test mode. Otherwise, it will get more drastic to eliminate those who are making bad decisions and need to be held accountable. Which is the major issue, they dont fear us and thats bad. Tyranny = the public fears their govt, Liberty=They fear us. We need to make them fear us.
I suggest campaigning against touch screens, not against Dominion.
Dominion is suing everyone who criticizes them. It is asking too much, to ask people to testify in the face of this.
But No Problem.
Instead, criticize touch screens generally because they are black boxes that nobody understands. Best of all, the very Dominion lawsuits against Sidney, Giuliani and others will provide direct testimony of the fact that these ARE black boxes that nobody understands.
Every painfully supercilious remark from Dominion about what rubes everybody are, can go straight into the lobbying effort against all touch screens. “OK buster nobody understands you . So geddout.”
Optical scanners are no better. In fact, they’re ripe for mass paper ballot fraud like we saw in Georgia.
Paper ballots that go through those scanners can be audited. That is why paper ballots in federal elections are required by law to be retained for 22 months. That has been the law for several years.
How could AK ever be labeled easy considering it is the State that has blessed us with Murkowski?
It should be easy because it’s an R leaning state. Of course, the GOP can mess anything up.
None of this matters if election integrity is not addressed. No secure voting, no true vote. It is that simple.
That’s it. Cold, hard, brute fact. Either the state R’s fight for election integrity or conservative values are done. I fully agree with SD…I could care less about the lesser-of-evils argument ANY LONGER. I’d rather lie in wait for the right candidates than vote for closeted leftists ever again. I’m willing to lose it all at this point for the small hope that somehow we can still right the ship.
I think it can be safely assumed that it goes without saying that election reform has to happen before all else.
Yes, get involved and help recruit for either a MAGA R or a 3rd Party. Be interesting if a 3rd party could gain enough seats to force R’s to embrace MAGA or to force Dems to move center to get their support. Win enough seats and a 3rd party could control who gets the leadership, whether out right by their votes or having Schumer give up a lot to retain, either way I think it could be a win to moderate the train wreck.
The key to 2022 is abolishing Dominion and all mail in ballot vote fraud on top of clearing voter rolls and making ID mandatory to vote.
Focus on the number one goal – punishing the Traitorous Ten, no matter what. Ensure they get replaced, by a MAGA or a demoncratic, but not a rino decepticon. Never a rino decepticon. If an evil bastard democratic takes the office for two years, so be it, it can be re-taken once the message is clearly sent.
The goal is to be rid of the decepticons. What is the difference between bastard democratics and decepticons?
Spit!
Stu:
It can’t just be about revenge. A new party has to adopt some popular policies the corrupt Uniparty won’t enact. A populist party has to be, you know, popular.
Portman, and many other Uniparty oligarchs, are realizing they’ve worked themselves into a corner where they have nothing left to offer the voters. Liz Cheney isn’t worried: she regards ruling America as her birthright. We’ll soon see how that plays with her ill-starred subjects
The new Party needs to make clear its principles as President Trump told us all early on what he was GOING to do (and delivered!). It doesn’t have to be long, just short and to the point! Let everyone know where everyone in the new Party stands for!
Not seeing that, and starting to feel played. Now Trump is abandoning the idea of a Patriot Party and wants us to vote for the RINOcerous GOP in 2022?? Seriously. They are backing off Trump because they want him to get them re-elected in ’22?? Have rallies and get his 80 million on board with Rubio, Rombama, Christie and the rest of the globalist RINOs Swampers?? Why bother? Dominion and the marxist cities will just cheat. Judge walk, not talk. Pitiful little declass, no pardon for Assange or Snowden, military brass full of traitors, Congress owned by China, Bogus Potus, intel community owned by China, “conservative” SCOTUS nominees apathetic joke, Jarvanka.
Revenge? Most of us are on the level of survival on Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs. I could care less about revenge. What a petty motive that is. The only way to SURVIVE is fixing the voting process and electing people who agree with us. Electing people who don’t has temporarily killed us. I’m no longer cowed by the psychology of the next election. It’s the long game that matters now, And that takes time and discipline. No more threats about what will happen if we don’t vote for the RINO mediocrity. Georgia was the last time we spend 5 seconds paying attention to that argument.
Then a swift kick in the ass. However I am not in favor of a patriot party. Gut the Repuketicons.
I would like to think that perhaps my many inquiries to my Rino Ohio Senator helped sway him to get a new job. I suspect many of my fellow MAGA Ohioans were inquiring about difficult subjects too.
Ha..you beat me to it…am sure my” unflattering” emails to him helped to push him out the door..I would assume he never reads them..but would guess that they are “tallied” under favorable and unfavorable.
You contributed. I am PROUD of you! God bless and God speed.
I told him he lost my vote a month ago.
Thank you for your service to our country. ?
My prediction: 2022 Mid Term, the Republican will lose between 5-10 Senate seats and 30-50 House seats. Like it or not, lot of former Republican voters will stay home
My prediction…. We will get whoever the deepstate says we will get from here on out. Any future elections will be won by only those who are bought/paid for/and controlled by the deep state. They will not ever, EVER, run the risk of someone like Donald J. Trump again.
Leet:
The Democrats in Congress are pushing hard to entrench the electoral changes that brought down Donald Trump: mail-in ballots, illegals voting, no voter ID, 16-year-olds voting, on and on.
The GOPe was so desperate to remove President Trump, they actually went along with these changes. The dopes are now realizing they’ve sealed their own doom. That’s why Portman is saying “No Mas!”.
I believe that both parties are finished. The divide and conquer no longer works; the uniparty has been exposed for all to see. We will have a brand new party which is forming at this moment. We are done with both parties; their foolery no longer holds power.
I don’t believe President Trump is nearly finished. In fact, the purge is just beginning. God Bless.
Please tell me about this new party that is being formed. In what states is it being set up? Have any papers been filed yet?
There are quite a few groups on Gab calling themselves the Patriot Party. Most are just regular folks hoping to network and join in with others when the national group finally forms. I saw one post of a group that had filed paperwork. However, this person was not on Gab, so I wasn’t able to follow up. I believe it is in Georgia. I can’t locate the post. Patriot Party Action Group has 11,000 members on Gab. I honestly believe that if the Patriot Party gets off the ground, Trump will throw his support behind it.
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Its Official –the Trump campaign has filed official disavowal of the Patriot Party.
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/202101259413340667/202101259413340667.pdf
USTerminator, agree with your assessment. The GOP is finished. Soon the big money guys from K Street won’t need Mitch and his cabal any longer because the Dems will have enough votes in the Congress to do whatever they wish.
Can I place a friendly wager on that with you? That’ll be an easy bet to win. ?
Ordinarily Democrats stay home. The apparent loss of Republican voters in 2028 was a result of a special way Democrats cheat.
They simply send in an absentee or mail in ballot with a Republicans name on the outside…. along with whatever else is required…. the rules in 8 states are that the first arriving vote is counted, but not later arrivals.
In the crush of business surrounding an election, it’s difficult to make those rules stick unless they do the check off on the voting rolls when they receive the ballot envelop.
If there’s nothing in that envelope, you’ve already been marked as having voted. And, they minimize down stream risk by entering an empty but official looking envelope.
Recall the rush all over the place to SHRED those envelopes? That’s what it was about. To destroy the evidence.
We need to get Pelosi out of power in the House. R’s only need to gain 7 seats. Let’s not cut off our nose to spite our face.
If Lara Trump runs here in NC, she has my vote.
I think Lara would make a great candidate.
Patriot Party candidates need only apply for vacancies.
President Trump has formally disavowed the Patriot Party.
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/202101259413340667/202101259413340667.pdf
Could that be so that the Democrats don’t go after it, too? It would make sense, otherwise they will be going after them as “domestic terrorists” or some such nonsense.
I’m all for a new party with PDJT as our head. Now for reality: NOTHING is being done to correct the criminal coup that was the 2020 election. Add 30- 100 million new DemCong voters being made citizens and you now know why those turds are retiring. The Repubs did this to themselves when they had a chance too they stood by- scared they would be called mean names.
Trump has only been a free man 4 days and he already had his aid throw out feelers. He said he’s thinking about a new social media site, possibly cable channel and Patriot Party. That’s a massive amount for 4 days.
And remember we are also responsible for fixing this vote fraud. Think outside the box.
We know RINO’s are the enemy but you ARE on the site that’s called out the UniParty for years so please spare us the surprise.
Let’s get to work.
here here!
that’s the spirit.
I am all in.
I am still in this fight.
I will never give up or give in.
never.
Our President Trump has formally disavowed the Patriot Party:
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/202101259413340667/202101259413340667.pdf
I was thinking a
“Patriot Party” would work best as a faction within the Repubs, like the Tea Party was.
I have the upmost respect for this community so I ask in all sincerity … Richard Grinnell has said that POTUS Trump was/is definitely against a 3rd party.
What if true? What if Trump plans 2024 Run?
I go where Trump goes.
as do i.
maybe Trump thinks of it as OUR party.
with no intention of handing it over.
maybe Trump see’s an opportunity to harness cold anger to run this elephant straight up the RINO’S SWAMP ASSES.
how bout that mitch.
eric- RIGHT THE HELL ON.
I too will go where ever Trump does. I think he will choose the path he sees he can best win and he is a winner so be it. That being said, I have the upmost respect for Sundance as well who knows a lot more than I do. My inclination is that it would be easier to seize control of the GOP than it would be to establish a new party. But on the other hand, I think there are many disenfranchised with the GOP, and there will be many disenfranchised from the dems who are not far left but hold the old stereotype labels of the GOP being the party of the rich and disinterested in the common man and poor. The most important thing I see is that we stick together and hang in there, and we fight for election integrity in our states.
The Republican Party is too corrupted to be reformed. It’d be better a new Party with the light minded Republicans join in.
The Republican brand name is heavily tarnished – unclean. Let it die. Start anew with the ‘new’ Party.
My wife is now too smart to vote Dem, but being from a Dem family, the repubs are a poison she will never taste. It’s baked into her cake.
That’s too bad. I see no way of reforming something we’ve been trying to reform since 2008, but yeah my eye is on Trump’s next move.
I’m with you. Greatest President in history, but sticking with the group that gave us Barr and Wray may be a bridge too far for me.
I agree. Trump did great things and could have done so much more but for the massive obstruction. However, I also recognize the bad moves he made in appointments and failure to fire bad apples right away. Those errors made his job and ours more difficult. I would like to ask him face-to-face why he did or didn’t do some things that seemed so blatantly obvious to myself and I assume others.
tktk, Trump did not have a cadre of political loyalists to appoint to help him on his White House staff. He had to dip into the republican stable at the beginning. Anyone WHO WAS was loyal was indicted or runoff, and Mitch McConnell controlled the appointments to cabinet positions.
The Russia Hoax supported by the republicans greatly hampered his ability to remove cabinet officials.
Mitch also controlled who was appointed to SCOTUS and apparently they are in the conservative vein of Roberts.
It was all rigged against the outsider and the will of the people who elected him. President Trump did extremely well considering.
We will be destroyed if we wait four years for another President Trump run. If they were able to cheat us out of this election, and we don’t get the corrupt voting system corrected, we are finished. I believe all the noise we are witnessing is a distraction. President Trump never conceded; 1871 Act rescinded. Something much bigger is in play and we all know that our lion never shows his hand.
Richard Grenell is pro-establishment.
He claimed he needed to take a break from politics which is why he resigned from Trump’s administration yet he has been so eager to be invited to shows for the past several days, claiming to speak for President Trump yet offering no proof.
I am also very cautious about Ric. He seemed to be a great asset, but his resignation at such a crucial time gave me pause. We shall see.
Redlion, I disagree. Ric Grenell has consistently supported Trump from the early days when FEW did. He gave up the cushy job as Ambassador to Germany to jump into the snake pit at cia. He was an interim appointment and forced the senate to approve Trump’s original appointee. His declassifications were invaluable.
Has everyone forgotten Ric is a cancer survivor, and he indicated the stress was not good for him and he needed a break? DNI has to be the most stressful job in government besides the Presidency. Especially since everyone in the ‘agency’ was out to subvert him.
Ambassador Grenell is solid in my book.
Me too!!
A third party is a folly and not in the interest of defeating the Left and Dems to retake the House and the Senate. It will only cannibalize the party. While I have, as a longstanding conservative who served four years as a political appointee in the Reagan administration, little regard for the Toomeys and Portmans of this world (except when their votes deliver successes, e.g., Supreme Court nominees), if we conservatives want to become the PERMANENT minority then a third party will assure that reality. To be a purist in politics is an ivory tower enterprise and self-defeating. I want to beat Democrats and the Left, so we need as many Republicans we can elect in Congress.
I have no opinion one way or another about starting a second national party. What I don’t know is how to take over the Republican party when everything is set up to ensure the incumbent wins. One of the first problems is where to make our donations. If we are still Republican, they go to the RNC and we get the candidates the RINO’s want. With a new MAGA party, it seems our donations would go straight to the MAGA candidates. Do the math for around 50 million voters sending in an average of $5 a month for 6-8 months. That’s not enough to complete the revolution but it would give us a start.
But the larger problem is the voting machines. Even here in Texas they are wide open, have been used to manipulate votes and neither Governor Abbott nor Texas AG Ken Paxton seem to care. Until we can address that problem, it seems that the lefties can continue to illegally manufacture more votes than we can legally cast. Just like they did in the last election.
The Tea Party II movement thinks the RNC is just going to roll over and get with the program. And ditch the CoC, Big Pharma, Big Tech, etc.
They won’t give us any more Rubio’s, no they would never do that.
Yeah Kev. We elected the Cons to control the House, Senate and every legislature outside the crooked metropolises.
And you BLEW IT. A bunch of bribed traitors.
Am I supposed to vote Kung Pao Kemp again or Rat-ensberger.
Corrupt to the core. We tried to reform them and they became even more rotted out.
NO. You send money and vote for the GOOD GUYS.
I must disagree. Did you not read Sundance’s comments?
(1) We will NOT be permitted to disrupt the USCC cash distribution system.
(2) Democrats (as opposed to full on leftists) are already losing their jobs and the avalanche has just started rolling. Their eyes will be opened.
you know…we heard voices like this prior to 2016:
trump has no chance.
choose the regular guard.
tea party and grass roots will destroy the GOP.
and what happened.
I get it. You have experience. I respect that. But this notion that we follow the path that has failed over and over and over and over is in fact FOLLY.
imagine if Ronald Reagan was entering the political scene today…
do you really think he would identify with this party in its present form.
be honest.
the system IS BROKEN.
the only path that fixes this system is extraordinary action….it will not come from the old guard within the compromised and weak GOP.
thinking otherwise is gaslighting even if by mistake..it remains a type of gaslighting.
those polls are important…remember how powerful those polls showed reagan in his first four years….? I remember.
now reflect, which political figure has ever come close?
trump!
and lets be honest, President Trump was never GOP….he created an opportunity and exploited it with great success.
President Trump SHOWED US WHAT IS POSSIBLE.
now the rest is really up to us. Our destiny, our power is now fully in our own hands.
I would say, he accomplished what no other “conservative” has ever achieved in the last 100 years! In 4 short years, against ALL odds, against every single element of pure vile corrupt action…
God Bless America
With all due respect, please tell us all about how we are going to set up a function third party in the weeks and months ahead, get candidates on the ballot and get them elected in the next election.
Seriously.
Seneca,
No army, no matter how numerous, can succeed without a General to follow. Ergo, Trump must call us to action. If he does, a 2nd Party will succeed because he IS a Leader. If not Trump, success will be doubtful.
But please, don’t doubt that the necessary army exist. We do, and I know you know that as well. Thanks for your contributions to TCTH.
this is a legitimate question. I think it is probably one of the MOST important questions.
so lets get some things out on the table:
I DO NOT HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS…truth.
but I will just say this,…this system was not broken down overnight..and fixing it will not happen overnight, in weeks or months ahead…it will require a long strategy, righteous purpose, intelligence, resources, will, and God’s blessings.
I have no expectations to fit all of that in some neat short time line. I am not looking to fix this temporarily on some short term immediate gratification.
I am seeking a paradigm change because that is what it is going to take. and then some.
The thing about doing change is that it IS hard. This will be no different.
But as long as we cling to this idea that someone else is going to ride in white horses and save US, we remain defeated, and at the mercy of hope porn and worse, misplaced priorities and fairy tales.
the GOP is not our answer. it has failed in every single area that is important. Can it be saved?
I would say the TRUMP effect showed us the levels of corruption and weakness is quite deep and tatooed down to the marrow. This exposure should be sufficient to answer that question. What has changed?
there is this debate …which is important…but it always seems to involve the devil’s bargain..the lessor of two corrupt parties. Choosing which party will betray your values at the most fundamental …just which is less harmful..when in reality, the fact is, that the GOP has lost all political power…it’s dead…they hold so little power now, it is not an exaggeration they have no leverage at all in all of the matters that are important..to US.
the house and the senate have fallen. if that reality has not set in fully, give it time. The worse is about to be displayed. Let’s not forget, that the GOP ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN…by weakness…by sheer complicity across the board on key events that the failed to even launch a fight. they gave up, because they refused to go against their OWN SELF INTERESTS….period.
the ONLY way to solve this is to install our own POWER, unique to our controls, and usher in a political leverage that FORCES these two corrupt parties and its members to walk back and concede the powers they have stolen.
there is no other way..none.
thinking it can be accomplished by voting for more GOP members is folly…pure folly.
respectfully..
regitiger
Kevin- thank you for your voice of experience and wisdom.
The biggest mistake we could make right now would be to attempt to form a third party.
You know better than anyone what a tragedy that would be.
I hope to see more of your posts here and that people will heed what you are saying.
I agree but I’m saddened by the “all or nothing” attitudes being taken. Pick and choose our battles wisely. Those that call for a third party must realize it will start small and take time to ripen. Those that say they will never vote Republican should allow for strategic exceptions like Sarah Palin running for the Alaska seat. Some areas are small and very local like Maine. They could possibly be turned with smaller scale efforts. Coalitions within a party can powerful, take AOC as an example. States with Republicans stepping down could benefit from grassroots voices like the precinct captains. Empty precinct seats can be filled by notice and petition to the local party chair. You can do this and be seated before the next primaries. The main point being we are not wrong for advocating our various positions. We are wrong to think that we can improve by tearing things down.
The Republican Party is already cannibalized and splintered. It’s a tainted loser brand. If PTrump is looking for a way to salvage it, then maybe he has something else entirely in mind.
I will no longer be able to think of the Republican Party without the term traitor attached to it. I pray a new party forms and that it is much stronger than what’s left of the Republican Party which is in a thousand broken pieces on the ground in DC.
Kevin, I am not and have never been a republican. My state has open primaries, so while there are a few disadvantages I can vote for whomever I want.
I will never vote for another republican incumbent in the senate again, although I will happily vote for any challengers. It has been my observation that republicans don’t run things when they are in control, they are just the junior member of the Uniparty. They are just not as bat sh*t crazy and the lesser of two evils. They should have done better than that. It is my sincere hope that Mitch McConnell is the leader of a minority party of about 30 people in 2022.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. I will miss making out some yard signs that I planned to post: “I never help the voters as I was just kiddin’ — I only do whatever the swamp has biddin'”
One flaw in the analysis. The elections are fixed so what people vote is irrelevant.
Agree
Get started on election reform. Get it ready for the primaries. The GOPe will force their candidates upon us, and we have to have an open and transparent primary to make the vote known.
And we need to rally around ONE MAGA candidate in the primary. Mitch and the RINOs actually push multiple candidates to run against a weak incumbant to spread the vote out and the incumbant wins.
Yes they do. Yes they will.
Exactly my thoughts….already 2 (I think) have said they are running against Cheney…we don’t want the MAGA vote split.
If Biden makes a few stupid mistakes such as a mid-east war or an economic recession, MAGA could look very appealing for even city folk.
Just need candidates to run, on the GOP ticket or otherwise
EXACTLY. thanks.
If mail voting continues, these senate races will look like Georgia.
Never lose sight of how sleazy the entrenched Uniparty people are. If a third party offers policies that the voters embrace, the Uniparty will quickly shout “Me too!”. They will make promises they have absolutely no intention of keeping. That demagogic maneuver is as old as the hills. Look at how Lindsey Graham flip-flopped in his support for Donald Trump.
These people (the Uniparty) are hollow inside. We’re fighting a fog.
….and that is why the entire swamp needs to come down. The big exposure hasn’t happened yet, and I believe it will when President Trump gives the green light. He told us over and over “We have it all.” I take him at his word and trust him implicitly. He isn’t finished yet; not by a long shot.
Remember that time when a Republican presidential candidate tried to appropriate “make America great again,” but future POTUS Trump had the foresight to copyright it so no one else could say it?
Swamp creatures are swampy, but we are smarter.
Ranting about a third party or not is a waste of time, until y’all that live in the states where the steal took place, start spending your time hammering your legislature to fix the local election criteria in order to prevent what got us here in the first place. Unless and until we have fair elections, all this blather about parties and primaries is just bar talk.
It’s a multi front war, that is a key aspect.
But for God’s sake, wake up.
We gave the Cons every office WITH our votes and they betrayed us.
A fair vote with no options? Vote Stalin or Pol Pot? Give me a break. We DO have to fix that aspect as well.
Would you trust a primary or general election in GA, AZ, NV,PA, or MI after what took place on Nov 3? Until you fix the root cause of the problem, no MAGA candidate has a chance.
Agree. Fix the voting system. I’m in PA and my state house rep and state senator never even returned my emails post “election”. For the past two monthd, we cannot get timely mail delivery. I suspect our post office were too busy with the mail in ballot crap to deliver mail. IDK
Falana, of course, the goal is to do away with the poor choice, but that goal can’t be reached without election fraud being the first priority.
Yep bar talk, without the bars.
ex101st, it’s a major distraction which is the intent. Argue amongst yourselves while they steal more elections.
It will be up to President Trump to find Good People to run in a Trump Caucus of the Republican Senate. They come with an American First Agenda that sticks at the heart. This could include a Democrat Trump Caucus take could take control of the senate.
What do Leftist fear? Jim Jordan as US Senator.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/portman-jordan-ohio-senate
And maybe Matt Gaetz as well.
ex101st, Gaetz is something of a wild child, but I like him. I’m not sure he could beat Rubio in 2022, and he would have to give up his house seat to run. He’s needed in the house. Better wait.
Now, that’s more like it.. but we really, really REALLY need to fix all those voting machines before we can get anyone elected. How can we ensure that will happen?
Yep, not much point in trying to erect walls without a reliable foundation.
With a sledge hammer at the next election.
They voted against POTUS Trump before retiring so CCP will not prevent them from publishing their memoirs aka laundering money into their “foundations.”
Rand Paul pushes back against Stephanopoulos narrative
The left is trying to force their narrative down our throats. Note the desperation. Why?
I think firstly they don’t want a narrative getting established that Biden is illegitimate.
More importantly what they got away with needs to be repeated. If there was nothing wrong why the need for change or further investigation.
This is is so important to understand. The GOP needs to focus on real voter fraud and unfair change of the rules.
The Dems will try and muddy the waters with cases of false allegations. This is a huge issue to address.
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/rand_paul_pushes_back_against_stephanopoulos_narrative.html
So just looking at some good candidate recruitment for 2022, Sununu could pick off that seat in NH. jordan could hold OH. The Lt. Gov. in NC seems to be a popular guy (Lara Trump possibly as well). Former NV AG Adam Laxalt has good name ID. Hoping for Sean Parnell in my state of PA (not sure anyone else has enough stature to compete here). If Johnson doesn’t run again in WI, Sean Duffy would be a great candidate (so would his wife!). And in AZ, not really sure who they have on the bench besides Ducey who could win, but he’s a non-starter.
And hopefully someone knocks off Murkowski in the Alaska primary.
Oh, forgot Georgia. Vernon Jones would make for a nice matchup against Warnock.
Excellent and positive list, MB.
Sarah Palin? Not sure if she will even run but she might have a shot. I know she’s not everyone’s cup of tea but she would be much better than Murkowski, IMO.
I’d love to see the Governator throw in… Make Alaska Great Again!
Magebear, Lisa and Susan make me want to throw up with all their whining and moralizing. Susan is set for another 6 years. Alaska is Red, Lisa was appointed by her father, the governor to fill a vacant seat and was later able to get the republican nomination and win by forming an alliance with the native population who would normally vote democrat.
Someone familiar with the AK politician scene should be able to come up with a strategy to win in the primary. Alaskans are independent freedom-loving people. They deserve better than a (really democrat) whiner.
I love to hear everyone’s opinions. Mine is this: The Republican party is dead on arrival. I’ve been a Republican my entire life. The Democrat party is an even worse choice (party of abortion just for starters). There is no choice forward other than a new party. The new party must be 80-100 million strong and force a voter ID law, and paper, yes I said paper, ballots. No mail in voting, no software that can flip the vote, no shenanigans – even if it takes the National Guard to safeguard our elections!! Otherwise, it’s all just talk.
A new party with the right ingredients and millions of Deplorables will knock the establishment republicans out in many places, imo. People hate the Republican brand so much right now they would welcome some place to go politically. Trying to negotiate with the establishment side of the republicans as part of the same party would be a killer for any candidate’s chances. A split party is not going to make much headway.
A new party which gets behind its candidates, negates the establishment repubs, is well funded and that voters flock to will give a much better chance of winning seats and races everywhere, imo. Yes, I agree, if not started immediately, the 2022 elections will be a problem but not impossible. Has to happen now though.
“It’s a big club and you aint in it. ” George Carlin
Not everyone in Congress is in the club, but most want to be, so they do what they think will get them in. Like white liberals with BLM signs in their yards who are still targeted for violence, they end up being very surprised when the oppressors include them in the basket of Deplorables.
Guaranteed it takes millions in “protection money” to get the Big Guy at Dominion to do them a favor. Even then, they may still betray you if there’s a higher bidder. The vote rigging is run like a mafia.
All that to say, all is not lost. Let’s put our heads together and solve this problem like Americans because thats who we are.
Let’s roll!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/07/04/happy-independence-day-america-a-roughnecks-view-of-independence/
someone anyone please reach out to jim jordan and get him to FOCUS.
he was JUST ON maria bartiromo show a few moments ago, and he completely lost the opportunity to discuss the impact of the situation wrt failed gop party and the reality that sundance has just identified:
there is no better opportunity than NOW that a third LEGITIMATE party that relate to around 80 Million plus voters….
Please..everyone…send some messages to Jim Jordan TONIGHT..and tomorrow and then every single day after that.
and do the very same thing with Desantis down in Florida.
and do the very same thing with every single political figure that have DEMONSTRATED exemplary records of integrity to a true people’s representation…
we will call it the TRUMP EFFECT.
our action will be the TRUMP EFFECT.
or you may refer to it as the TRUMP SPRING.
we need to PUT POWER into this effort RIGHT NOW.
Right NOW while the iron is hot and we are seeing congress go to every corrupt effort to impeach OUR PRESIDENT!
time for action..take some.
When we organize and we finance a truly independent party minus the vile pressure and influence of the “old guard”, we will gain respect and we will then have at least equal footing. Arguably, by numbers alone, we will exceed their position.
The FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS: identifying all of the loopholes and fraudulent practices within EVERY SINGLE STATE…That becomes the mission. We must establish a path that clears the hurdles. it’s just that simple. When we do this, we will take all comers…and frankly I do believe by exposing the defects that have intentionally doped into the election schemes, we will gain credibility that WILL DRAW other party voters over the the RIGHT SIDE. The right side is about truth, integrity, fair and even handed politics, and a willingness to represent free speech and defend it …IN ALL FORMS…even and especially those speech issues we find nauseating and offensive. it must be this way. This is not a compromise….it is abiding by rules of a free nation that all voices even and especially those we disagree will be protected and not censored.
second, we need to identify with local small businesses…period!
thirdly, we need to identify with every single major industry that is being sat down and economically ruined by the biden (and GOP) administration. Keystone has to be the poster child for our effort in this area. Numbers of jobs lost, economic losses.
4th…we need to identify with the china threat as both an economic, military, politic and cultural threat to our society. We must establish and publish ever single business in the united states and abroad that benefits from the corrupt relationships that congress and our federal government has illicited by either inaction, or direct secretive deals, that have privately enriched the lives of a very few number in the small group.
5th…we MUST acquire OUR OWN data mining third party competitor…then USE that power to surveil and capture all the data and inspect it and publish it to SHOW where the graft, the fraud and the secret deals are being made by congress, both parties, and every single state official down to our local government and businesses.
these things will distinguish our party as a power house.
but first things first: start communicating to people like Jim Jordan. Devin Nunes…many others. They have every single reason to jump….They only need to KNOW that WE THE PEOPLE will be there from day one all the way to the end of their political careers and carry them to the end zone.
do these things….do them now…start communicating…begin now.
God Bless America
regitiger, “The Trump Spring” I really like that one.
If electronic voting machines are used, DEMS will automatically win. They will determine through an “investigation” there was no voting machine fraud or fraud or fraud of any kind. Christ keeps my sanity. OTOH, I am so terribly sad and OTOH I am overwhelmed with record breaking cold anger. So the two eventually balance out and I lean on Christ to do that. IMO, it’s all part of prophecy… I just didn’t want to see any of it play out. It’s easy to see the reason why the U.S. is not a player in the end…
It is a great time to split the baby.
Have we forgotten our origin story?
A rag tag bunch of freedom-loving British colonists kicked the butt of the world’s biggest superpower.
No more griping about what a crappy situation we find ourselves in. Let’s put pur heads together and “gitterdun.”
Yes, we get our foot in the door and then we knock it down.
WOW, this is crazy. Actually people discussing vote for a republican after the stunts they have pull? I don’t get it. Folks, these are the same people who will convict President Trump BY SECRET BALLOT!!!! They don’t have the guts to do it in public. I resigned from the RNC last gave them a piece of my mind in the process. Since then I have had 3 fund raiser emails. LOL. In my reply I told them we the people were licking our chops for the midterms. The GOP will be destroyed. We the people will refuse to support people that don’t support us. I told them they fail to recognize they are OUR voice. They speak for us. The days of holding our nose and voting for the “ lesser of 2 evils” is over. Evil is EVIL. They proved it. We are awake and clearly see who they are and who they represent….and it ain’t us. Only a couple of them have a pair. Most like Pierre, Mitch, Kevin , and the gang have little grapes. Question: why would you vote for these lying, back stabbers, who have zero guts or conviction? I’m for a third party 100%.
The Democrats have become very dependent on vote fraud (more than 2 dozen kinds that work) ever since their 2004 trouncing, and with the 2020 election showing that it can work even better than they’d imagined or seen earlier, they will be out there again lying, stealing and cheating.
HOWEVER, 30 some Boutique parties ~ that also exist, and have some level of legal presence in numerous states, will be following suit and attempting to trip up the Democrats, and take some of those seats in even the most Democrat states!
If you thought 2020 was a zoo, 2022 will be a zoo where every tooth and claw is red! A regular old Nature Gets Revenge sort of event.
Now, the proper Republican posture in this coming disaster ~ DEFEND the Republican seats, aid the boutique parties in the Democrat states no matter who they are. And don’t arrest boutique p;arty cheaters in Democrat states.
Frankly WE DO NOT NEED TO CARE that Democrats are going to be savaged with their own irregularities!
All politics are local Get involved…I am. Education is key. We have so many hard working Naturalized citizens from oppressive countries…seek them out….they are teachers. Educate your children. I asked many young people (under 40) if they knew who Josef Stalin and Mao Zedong were. One…just one knew Stalin was Russian. They both murdered hundreds of millions. They all knew who Hitler was. Fits the left wing narrative.
Third parties have not worked, cannot work, and will never work. Look at the history. This concept is doomed to failure. The better strategy is to purge the Republican Party of the corporatist RINO’s. Certainly very difficult, but better than entertaining the fantasy of a successful third party,
P,S. – Stories are circulating that Trump is not interested in forming a third party.
It will be 100 times easier to work within the existing GOP infrastructure to replace the bad people from the ground up than it will be to start a third party that is doomed to failure.
Not to mention that we would be walking away from over $2 BILLION DOLLARS that was raised thanks to our President Trump. Why the hell would anyone want to leave that money on the table??
That $2 Billion is controlled by the RNC and will never be allowed to be used to help anyone the Corrupt RNC does not approve. The question I have is Why give the corrupt RNC another dime or second of attention. I will vote to primary any I can, then, when that vote fails, I’ll vote democrat.
Democrats are honest, in the sense that they at least tell you they are going to destroy the country. The Republicans are traitors and deserve a traitor’s (political) death. I will not vote for any Republican who did not publicly defend President Trump, and that includes voting against the fraud. All Republican senators have lost my vote, not a single one allowed a recess vote, yet they are all allowing Dumbass to get any appointees he wants.
Sorry, the Republicans have proven they are snakes, It doesn’t matter what they say, they are snakes. We have been bitten repeatedly by them for a dozen, or more, years now. When will you recognize the snakes for who they are?
That is why we are proposing a second party.
Thank the Lord that FREAQKING RINO is NOT going to be m one of our Senators here in Ohio after next year…..Jim Jordan, are YOU listening?
Steve, if Rep Jordan runs for the senate, you better find a really good candidate to run for the open seat in the house.
The Democrats, more than anyone, know and ‘feel’ who is the rightful President. Because he was not truly removed from office through voting, they are now trying to ‘remove’ him ‘in absentia’ – through impeachment. So if they ‘convict’, he is then no longer President; he was actually ‘removed’ by the Senate and their ‘little problem’ is now solved, they will claim.
In the meantime, a faux president, a marionette in the Oval Office, signing away ‘rights’ is just a prop for their ‘next step’.
(For the charade to get to this point, all the instruments of deception had to have perfectly executed their moves.)
Further action will involve removing the puppet, who will suddenly be ‘dropped’, and the next in line person (selected by just a few) emerges as President into an alternate reality prepared by the marionette in the interim phase.
Can or will this continue?
Statistically this would not be possible in a reality where Truth prevails.
However, because the perpetrators are operating in an alternate reality, a realm which they have created for this purpose (initiated with the mayhem); it will go on unless the offenders are brought back to a reality where the force of Truth can annihilate their Lies.
Lots of back and forth on whether to reform the GOP or start a new party. I have weighed in on my preference. But what if there is a larger, much more important question.
No matter the path chosen, how to we field TRUE AMERICA FIRST CANDIDATES?
How do we identify the non-lawyers with the fortitude and spine to go into that cesspool?
I’m inserting a requirement for non lawyers as my own litmus test.
I’m 60 years old and I readily admit that I don’t have the least bit a desire to wade into that swamp. How do we identify the people that would represent our values that are also willing to run?
A new party focused on the best candidates without the interference of the establishment snakes inside the party, who will not just walk away from their power willingly, would be very doable. To fight the inside party power struggle while trying to find good candidates who would get the backing of the whole party is a not a way to be successful imo. Start fresh with a pure MAGA agenda and everyone on the same page, eager to work and unified.
First, the voting machines have to be exposed and cleared out. Dominion is suing Rudy and I believe Sidney for defamation. Let the Discovery begin. Also, Biden and company is a train wreck. It is my prediction that they are going to implode very quickly. People are waking up quickly; even the ones that voted for the imposter are having buyer’s remorse already. I have read some of their posts calling him out. The Democrat Party is going to be TOXIC. I am not so sure that they will do well in the Senate. People are angry at both Parties, but especially the Dems. My suggestion is to follow Trump’s lead.
“When we think about forming a third party, the “you will split the vote” crew always peddles their vote split narrative.”
Thank you for this Sundance. It’s getting tiring to hear the whining from those supposedly on our side who seem to want to quickly move past this election.
The problem is here, they are ignoring the vote splitting that has gone on for a long time that has kept conservatives out of office. They are either naïve or willingly going along with the deception.
There is simply no time and no way to set up a third party and actually run candidates. Anyone who believes that it can be done, please explain how you would do it.
The answer is to put up good solid MAGA Republicans up against the traitors and campaign like hell to get them in. Even our President Trump is indicating that is what he wants to do.
I hope and pray that our President will soon give us some direction.
We would be wasting a huge opportunity by attempting to do the impossible, namely set up a third party in all these states and then run candidates.
I see no reason why both can’t be done Seneca. Have whatever they want to be called running against the RINO’s. Call them the MAGA Caucus.
I suspect the current Freedom Caucus would be happy with the support.
Over time, if enough MAGA Caucus politicians are elected, who needs either party?
”[S]omeone needs to primary Lisa Murkowski again.”
Are you asking Sarah Palin to sacrifice herself and her family to the D.C. swamp? Are you unaware of how she was treated during her VP bid? Did you happen to notice what happens to a populist like Donald Trump when he attempts to reform the corrupt institutions of the Deep State?!
I wish Sarah Palin a long life and a peaceful one, neither of which she will have if she returns to political office.
I am very fond of Sarah. Please leave her in peace.
I share Sundance’s desire to get ahead of this situation. It is what it is. No need to belabor it. Everyone knows what it is. Needed is conceptuality ahead of the corruptibility, to manage the latter. I suggest reconnecting the five professional guilds (Theology, Medicine, Military, Law, Pedagogy) to comprise together advisory groups to any decision-maker, or, as the US Army calls them, MFTs (Multifunctional Teams).
The pentagonal structure of the professional guilds, when in communications between them, is the battle formation of strength more than sufficient to withstand attacks by and defeat chaotics’ so-called march through the institutions.
Studies and enumerations of the concept are included in this post, more coming soon: https://theological-geography.net/?p=49844
ll this discussion regarding a new party becomes a harmful distraction at this time. I ask this question? What purpose a new Party if voter-fraud remains standard operating procedure?
They want us to focus on everything and anything while not focusing on election fraud. It is a shame so many are being distracted from the only thing which means anything……”Legal Elections”.
Fandog, the purpose is to remove the traitorous Republicans. There have been other parties to die in this country, the Republican party needs to die.
Somebody needs to get the CTH feed to DJT. His ears must be filled with Uniparty doo doo to have us hear today that the Patriot Party is out because Trump thinks more Repubs don’t want to impeach. Whut?? I am sorry but the GOPe leadership feels emboldened. They join the Dems in celebrating Trump’s removal and will not get the message until the base + disaffected Dems + Independents coalesce into something that is 100% Trump-American. The big scare today is that Trump leaving the Republican party will cause the permanent rule of Democrats. Look at what they are doing to their long time base. Destroying it because that is the woke plan. Destroy the whole country. The argument against forming a new party is “you have no infrastructure.” The argument FOR starting a new party is “you have no infrastructure.” Have any of your tried to break into the Repub party at the super local level. Good luck. They are controlled down to the ground level and nobody is getting in. Just sayin’. A new party can bring all the disaffected Americans together and sorry to say it, but today, after the Biden EOs there are more than there were even in Trump’s election landslide that got swiped.
Cracks me up when people say “if the GOP disbands, the Democrats will have one party rule!”
We already have a one party system and have for at least 20-25 years.
Every time I hear somebody say that, I give them hell and ask when Obamacare got repealed, when Comey went to jail, how complete the border wall is, and how much spending got cut.
About 60% of the public, and growing, is unrepresented by any political party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5c7AcZDJLs&feature=emb_title
GREAT revealing Video of Arizona Republican Party continuing to betray We the People. Watch these weasels show their strips. THIRD PARTY NOW!!!!!!!
Best way to get to a third party is to destroy the one posing as the second party.
The time has come for the GOP to disband.
This should start in the House where I would wager 50-100 Reps are reliably MAGA. They need to announce that the Freedom Caucus will now be independent from the GOP, and will elect its own leadership that will not involve eGOP leaders.
Thank you Sundance. I feel the same way. Now is the time to strike a new party and make it a political force right out of the gate. We can do this if we have the leaders and funding.
On the other hand, we in Ohio now have an opportunity to vote for a better candidate. On the third hand, Ohio politics may be Red but it’s the stupid Party kind of Red.
I figure we need to get the GOP Senate down to 20 or so to reap the benefits of a GOP implosion.
It’s not like having more than that is going to put the brakes on JoeBama. The Dems are gonna get whatever they want because the GOP is dead.
The Dems are also in huge trouble. Biden us essentially ruling from the position of destroying the economy. How many Presidents can claim that they almost single-handedly fired 60,000 oil/gas workers in one day? That’s just KeystoneXL. They’ll be coming for fracking ASAP.
We are in full-on “let it burn” mode now. Accelerate the collapse.
The GOP is functionally dead.
They can’t run on anything resembling Trump’s enormous success…because that makes them personally poorer. And, like Perdue/Loeffler, they sound even phonier. They can’t run on stopping Biden or protecting the courts because they elected Biden and the Courts are now thoroughly and irredeemably corrupted.
Our goal should be to get them down below 40 seats.
Lower if possible.
Far more GOP seats are in jeopardy because MAGA voters are GOING to have our revenge. And that revenge is going to fall on the necks of elected Republicans first.
Yes …. accelerate the collapse of sanity, big and fast. The crazies are now in charge, and roughly 10% of the deranged cannot permanently control the other 90% of the population. The faster they kill the economy, allow little boys into the girls locker rooms, and continue to play the scam-demic hoax, the faster all of the criminals in charge will fail.
Until the multitudes of Americans that have remained blissfully unaware of widespread institutionalized corruption and media manipulation actually feel the pain and despair of communist control collectively unite and DEMAND fair elections from the Uniparty, ousting the criminals in charge and saving our Republic will remain elusive.
Sometimes its gotta sting a bit or people don’t learn.
We’ve never had a President fire 60,000 oil and gas workers in a day before. The Libs are only going to make it worse from here.
Are we really talking about not only launching a new party, but then putting that new party up against the establishment and expecting a free and fair election? We better have more to the plan then just launching the party. I don’t see how we can seriously have this mindset after what we JUST watched happen to the most popular president possibly ever. They straight up took the election away from us right in front of our faces and dared us to do anything about it.
I get it, we have to start somewhere. So absolutely, go for it. The only thing I can suggest to anyone is, don’t give a single solitary dollar to any candidates. If they aren’t 100% dead on certain to be MAGA you’d be a fool to give one penny. And even then I would only vote for them, not donate. Once they get in, if they ever do, then you monitor their voting patterns, their standing up against the establishment on EVERY single issue that goes against MAGA, not giving an inch anywhere. Basically, an AOC mindset but on America’s side. Not Republicans, not democrats, not left, not right, but AMERICA’S side.
In the next round of elections we must first make sure the candidates are MAGA. Then we must closely monitor the election to get a second look at how badly they have infiltrated the system. Some how, some way, good guys need to snag active, currently in use at the time, dominion and/or any other electronic voting machines being used in an election and audit/dissect it. Obviously the evidence would be inadmissible in court, but it’s not for court. It’s to get a very real and very close look at active machines up close and personal. Then and only then would ALL Americans, regardless of party, have a true idea of how the bad guys are perpetrating their scheme.
In regards to the candidates, If there is an old Social media post, a murky grey area around their voting history or belief system on abortion, gun control, etc… don’t give a penny. This will just be them once again bilking us not only out of tax money, but our personal cash that they are constantly begging for, with promises of constitutional laws and policies. Yet we have to hear excuse after excuse of why they were forced to vote with the lefts law this time because it just made so much sense because that’s not who we are as a people, or in the name of unity blah blah blah.
Shame on all of us for letting RINOS do this to us for 20+ years. Read my lips, no new donations. I mean my God, how many times are we going to keep going back for more?!?!
My suggestion is vote, if you must. But do not give one iota or smidge of currency to these people. Personally I won’t be voting again until I see some evidence of real change in behavior and results. And by results I mean said person doing things that advance MAGA, whether from in office or in the private sector. Not small gestures, but gestures that make you sit up and take notice.
President Trump got people who stopped voting decades ago or who had never voted before, to VOTE. He also got Democrats to cross the isle. MAGA is an American movement, not a party movement. Americans are desperate for real red blooded fellow Americans to vote for. The voters are out there. The candidates are out there. But we can’t win ANYTHING until the current establishment is held accountable for stealing our voice, our vote, and most of all, OUR COUNTRY. And to accomplish that part we first need to be certain of how they did it. In depth. Not the macro level we have seen so far. That much we know. We need the algorithms, the print shops that made the fake ballots, the money that paid for both, the company that made the pens used to hand out at polling stations, the poll workers political leanings, etc etc etc. And if we get that evidence at the very least it forces them to regroup, reorganize, and relaunch their new plan. At which point it opens a window to get a real vote in during the restructure by making them fear their old way is compromised and having to start over.
This plan is not a two year turn around, unless of course the military were to take over and figure this all out. But I think we have seen enough to know that’s not going to happen. So in the meantime we need to begin our own investigation and planning to upturn the Apple cart.
– MAGA
Kasich broke the GOP in Ohio, and it remains broken to this day. It’s crammed full of RINOs from top to bottom.
There was a wave of Tea Party candidates for Central Committee several years ago. It was unusual because most races for CentCom seats are unopposed. Central Committee is actually a very powerful organization on the state level, so Kasich’s machine made sure that the TP insurgency didn’t have access to mailing lists and other resources that the incumbents got. I think 100% of the GOPe candidates were re-elected.
Political parties need hundreds and hundreds of volunteers to function. Most GOP volunteers are like my 77-year old aunt: elderly ladies who think Mitt Romney is a charming young man who maintains decorum, loses fair and square and loves America. They think John McCain is a war hero, and they were sincerely troubled by Donald Trump’s mean tweets (not that they themselves use Twitter.) They get their news from NBC.
These ladies (and gentlemen) are aging out. Someone needs to replace them. It does mean actually getting up off the sofa and doing actual work, but there’s no reason why MAGA Nation can’t take over the GOP on a state-by-state level, starting right now. The party machinery already exists. The GOP already has guaranteed ballot access in 50 states and a guaranteed spot in the Presidential debates: two things the “Patriot Party” (or any other “third party”) doesn’t have.
I just don’t see how a 3rd (actually, 2nd) party can compete against the Uniparty. Taking over the GOP by out-volunteering the GOPe seems much more plausible to me. My 2¢.
“the “you will split the vote” crew always peddles their vote split narrative… There has never been a better time for a New Party to launch…” Agreed. GOPe is toast. MAGA!