In the 2022 Senate races there are 34 seats up for grabs. 14 are held by Democrats and 20 are held by tenuous Republicans. [Breakdown Here] Due to vulnerability, their lack of support amid the republican base, and their insufferable 2020 behavior outing them as DeceptiCons it is almost guaranteed the GOP will lose seats in the 2022 mid-term election.
As a consequence Senators Richard Burr (NC), Ron Johnson (WI) and Pat Toomey (PA) had previously mentioned they were not going to seek reelection; now Senator Rob Portman (OH) makes the same announcement:
OHIO – On Monday, Sen. Rob Portman and his wife, Jane, walked into a room resplendent with ornate art deco murals and fixtures in the Hilton Netherland Plaza in downtown Cincinnati.
Portman briefly reminisced with reporters about ice skating in that very room as a child. Then, the Republican from Terrace Park took the stage and announced an end to his three decades in politics.
Portman, 65, won’t seek re-election next year but will serve out his term that ends on Jan. 3, 2023. (read more)
Things amid the DeceptiCon caucus are getting interesting. With four GOP senators having announced they’re not running (Burr, Johnson, Toomey, Portman) there’s essentially zero chance of the GOP retaking control of the Senate in 2022. [20 R seats up & only 14 D seats that are in solid D strongholds] it is far more likely the Democrats will gain seats, so keep this in mind….
…When we think about forming a third party, the “you will split the vote” crew always peddles their vote split narrative. However, the GOP doesn’t have a chance in hell to win 2022 given what the base of the Republicans think about these senate DeceptiCons now.
There has never been a better time for a New Party to launch and capture three or four seats from the retiring GOPe crew. It would be great to see true MAGA representatives that can caucus with Republicans but hold ground on America First principles.
And someone needs to primary Lisa Murkowski again.
Ronna McDaniel will make sure more decepticons run for office and make it near impossible for Patriots to run. JMHO
Yes, and for the life of me, PDJT is still singing her praises. I thought I knew him and voted for him twice, but now I just shake my head sometimes.
Hang in there. Trump gives others plenty of rope to hang themselves.
Who will the Republicans blame for their Senate losses?
They don’t have Trump to blame anymore
Its gonna fall on Mitch Rona and the GOPe.
In their zeal to get rid of Trump, they basically evicted themselves from the uniparty club.
Trust the plan?
Who’s inviting Ronna McDaniel to the New Party?
There will be no new party
There better be. I will never vote Republican again, ever.
Yes, and they’ll get the FBI and the CIA to run phony intell on people and paint them as russian agents and smear any candidates who tries to run against them. They’ll plant evidence and create “accidents”.
This whole thing has to be brought down. No new political party can be formed to try and run within a corrupt system manned by corrupt and murderous gatekeepers.
A new party won’t work in a system with this much corruption.
Might want to give the communists proper credit for taking over the Democrat Party.
Trevor Loudon’s 2020 list of 65 communists, socialists and security risks in Congress
https://www.trevorloudon.com/2020/08/trevor-loudons-2020-list-of-65-communists-socialists-and-security-risks-in-congress/
About that seat currently occupied by Rob Portman, I have two words: Jim Jordan.
Yes, Mr. Jim Jordan.
I miss David Brat from Maryland. He would be great to have back representing we the people.
Brat was from Virginia. (defeated Cantor. Wish he was from Maryland, though; he’d be better than any of the Socialists here. Mfume and Raskin are both in that list Sherri Young posted above).
Thank you for the correction.
David Brat always made sense when he spoke.
What happened to Brat?
” You will split the Vote”
Translation= You are going to stay right where we want you.
Ya, about that. After 37 years of lies from the R’s, I will not fall for that crap again. That ship has sailed and ain’t ever coming back to port again.
#no vote no donations…spread the word
I already notified my two R senators. Rubio is now not in favor of immigration reform that includes Joe Stolin’s amnesty for all until every American has a job. Yeah, he’s up for reelection and knows he has no shot unless Trump’s supporters turn out for him, and we hate his lying butt.
Rubio was supported in 2010, by the Tea Party. “Flake” was also supported in 2010, by the Tea Party. They turned out to be adept DeceptiCons, and back stabbed the Patriots before they were sworn into office.
Right. Splitting the vote got us Clinton. Not splitting the vote got us Obama and Biden. All things considered, I think I’ll split the vote.
Exactly!
same me…since 1984…..never….ever again…hmm what a trip with fu*king RINOS !!!!!!!
“…When we think about forming a third party, the “you will split the vote” crew always peddles their vote split narrative”.
And this crew is still active on “conservative” sites including this one. Many Patriots advocated a walkaway strategy from the GOPe for a while. And they would be insulted, reported, and kicked off many “conservative” sites and Twatter. If anyone ever uses the “We need to hold our noses and hold the Senate” argument again—-Call the out!!! They are RINOs. They are Rolcons. Expose them! Its time we take our votes, money, and time to a new party! Bravo Sundance!
Hasta la vista amigo; and SC Justice Roberts now says he will not preside over the democrats’ shampeachment next week.
Pat Leheay will, that of course is not how what the Constitution prescribes in Article !, Sec. 3, paragraph 6. The next paragraph also says that impeachment shall not extend further than the removal from office.
I believe before the trial is begun, the Democrats need to establish upon which Constitution they base their authority. The way I read the Constitution ratified in 1776, any conviction after leaving office is subject to the laws of the country, i.e. in the courts and the Senate no longer has jurisdiction.
Constitution Schmanstitution. Totally flexible document from here on out.
That just means they get to appoint their own, it’s gonna be a sh—show of a trial, and they make the rules. No evidence of fraud will be allowed. You heard it here first.
Agreed Sundance, but i read today that President Trump is no longer on board starting a new party.
I don’t care; I am on board for starting a new party…
I agree, and also pay no mind (and IMHO, neither should anyone else) to “reports say PDJT,…”
UNTIL I hear “PDJT is suffering from laryngitis” I will give no credence to ANY statemants from anyone else.
He HAS a voice, and despite msm, and big tech, he CAN communicate with US, if he so chooses.
“Never tell your enemies your plans” and confuse your enemies, as to your intentions are prudent coarses of actions, for PDJT right now.
Staying “out of the limelight”, so yhe media can’t distract from the fumbling, bumbling, stumbling of Biden admin is also prudent.
In addition, developing a plan for addressing the new shampeachment (same as the old shampeachment) is certainly a priority, right now,….not that PDJT can’t walk and chew at the same time.
The Republicon party is DEAD. PDJT is a VSG, so he KNOWS that. Its TIME, and he KNOWS its time, to disable that wing, so the Uniparty can’t fly.
Any who continue to argue for rehabilitation of the Party are either party shills, or are in denial. Like CPR on a dead for a week corpse, just pounding dead meat.
IMHO
Our President Trump has officially disavowed the Patriot Party. That should tell you something:
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/202101259413340667/202101259413340667.pdf
That document simply says to me that PDJT disavows the action of some Joe Blow who started a party called the Patriot Party in PDJT’s name without PDJT’s actual permission.
That is perfectly reasonable. But it also doesn’t state anything about the fact that PDJT might someday move towards a third party that he himself actually does endorse.
Trump is playing a game of chess with Mitch.
If you stand down on the Senate vote and dont “convict”…
Then I wont target Republicans in 2022.
Jokes on Mitch. Trump isn’t keeping that deal. Trump now realizes that some Decipitcons are pulling away from Mitch. Mitch’s speech condemning Trump was supposed to be his “Statesman Speech” that turned public opinion against Trump and Maga. It would allow him to round up 17 votes. They watch too much CNN. RNC internal polls show Trump more popular than ever. And EVERYONE hates Mitch. A Senate conviction would make Trump a martyr in GOP circles. Rubio just revealed that he wants a motion to dismiss and they are constitutional issues that a Senate can not “try” a private citizen. The uniparty misread the tea leaves.
Trump current status is living martyr.
Daily Wire reporter Ryan Saavedra is quoting Maggie Haberman of New York Times.
“In last 24 hours, after floating through a few folks that he was considering creating a third-party as a way to keep Senate Rs in line ahead of impeachment, Trump has been talked out of that and is making clear to people he isn’t pursuing it,” NYT reporter Maggie Haberman wrote.
“Trump has started to believe there are fewer votes to convict than there would have been if the vote had been held almost immediately after Jan. 6.”
Source (1): https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-has-political-plans-for-2022-abandons-idea-to-create-third-party
Source (2):
Haberman is a mouth piece for Never Trumpers. And Team Trump also feeds her info and disinfo. This is a truce being floated in public. The Republicans will criticize TRump but will not get the 17 votes in the Senate. Roberts is also giving them an out.
1 senate can not try a private citizen
2 senate can not impeach a private citizen
3 senate can not have a bill of attainder
People familiar with his thinking… Might as well be Don Lemon.
Every one on CTD should know she is a POS.
I come to CTH so I don’t have to read that trash print!
The NYT is a pimp that employs whores. Do not believe a single word they report.
Oh, really? Maggie Haberman said that based on anonymous sources close to the president? Oh, WOW, okay… I’ll take that to the bank… What the hell, redlion… Please.
I’m not buying it. When the source is a nebulous ” someone who knows the president…” I’m not buying that at all. Heck, the janitor knows the President Trump. This is way to early to divine what President Trump is going to do, but I agree with littleflower481 in terms of starting a new party. WE THE PEOPLE can start one by ourselves. You will see forward looking politicians flock to the new party.
The rumor first originated from Maggie Haberman of New York Times and Daily Wire then helped to spread it among “conservatives”.
Source:
Exactly, Maggie Haberman is a source for inside information on Trump? When Donald Trump comes out with a press release then I will believe it.
And NeverTrumper Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire is scared to death of an America First Party. They know it will decimate what remains of the pathetic, do nothing GOP.
They are talking about Jason Miller. He was on a podcast. https://justthenews.com/podcasts/just-news-am-carrie-sheffield/jason-miller-trumps-next-steps
Timeline:
1/20 Miller flies to Florida with the Trumps on AF1,
1/21 Miller is guest on a podcast and says that PDJT wants to 1) clean up election systems and 2) regain the House and Senate,
1/22 Trump endorses Kelli Ward
Today — “Trump Political Team Disavows Newly Formed MAGA Patriot Party”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-political-team-disavows-newly-formed-maga-patriot-party_3670924.html
Looks like we have at least one scammer and maybe another who is trying to profit off the Trump name.
So far, no legitimate Patriot Party.
That was msm.
Until the words come out of President Trump’s mouth – no one else including his supporters – I won’t waste my time reading it, much less believing it.
I love President Trump. If he comes out in support of staying with the Republican party AND HAS A PLAN he will articulate, I’m with him.
But eventually the very movement he started needs to move past him, carrying him along for a change. We cannot win long term if the only person who can lead us is President Trump. It’s too easy to stymie the efforts of one person. Even when they are the President of the United States.
Sarah Palin has Lisa Murkowski in her crosshairs for the primary.
Wish that were true. I think Sarah had enough politics to last her a lifetime, she’s a pretty straight shooter and daily wading through shit gets old for sane people.
Sarah should probably weigh in herself. She lurks these branches. Love that woman.
I might move to Alaska if Sarah Palin runs. Always loved that State anyway. 🙂
yes…please and thank you.
we need more sarah palin’s…desperately.
Sarah publicly told Lisa “I can see 2022 from my backyard”… You get the joke. I say she’s in.
Ron Johnson (WI) may run. I believe the Democrat takeover has made him reconsider.
I sure hope he reconsiders.
Ron Johnson has said from the start that he would only stay in congress for 2 terms.
And politicians never lie or change their mind.
NEW PARTY NEW PARTY NEW PARTY, America first party, get the party up and running NOW. By the time that election comes around the damage done to America and Americans by the dems will be so severe , I think a party that puts America First could sweep in
Mr Lankford! Are you listening? Time to call Don Nickles and see if he needs a partner.
I send that dope the most disrespectful insane emails…they reply with cookie cutter pleasantries. They are not paying attention, but we are.
Explain please — I must be out of the “Don Nickles” loop.
Don Nickles is Lankford’s immediate predecessor. He served four terms in the Senate and stayed in DC to run a lobbying firm. Nickles is 72 and may be looking for a partner. Lankford is 52 and should be looking for alternative employment.
I’m now registered as unaffiliated.
If President Trump started another party…………..I’d follow him …….in a New York minute 😀
Thank You Sundance, you have never been more Right about this is the Time for Change.
I think honest people will be more likely to step forward and run for office if there was an honest party that actually represented the American people.
the crime mob in DC will explain it to them..never another Trump will get thru..
FBI will see to it
Flush every one of them down the political toilet.
You all seem to be forgetting HOW you got here.The DemocRATS own the courts AND the voting machines.How are you going to overcome those?…….
That’s easy = New Country!
YEEEEEEEEEEEEES…..NEW CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We all know and understand how that impacts elections, but we must make our voices heard and forming a new party and running candidates will do that! Doing NOTHING won’t accomplish anything!
Good point.
These ‘republican’ state representatives and state senators need to be asked this question:
How are any of you ever going to advance your own politically career or ever hold a statewide office if you don’t have ‘real’ elections?
I think a lot of these people are stuck on stupid.
They must think this election fraud was just a on time thing because if President Trump. ?
Get involved with your local board of elections. Become a poll worker/poll watcher. Get involved in city/county/state government. Just. Get. Involved. I thought I had done my time and have been avoiding becoming more active again but we all need to step up locally.
Penny- as a thirty year veteran of local grassroots politics, I couldn’t agree more.
The people that are advocating third party do not know the work that has to be done before you can even get a party organized let alone run candidates.
Was pretty gung-ho about a 3rd party and even recently withdrew from the GOP (became unaffiliated in Utah on Jan 20) but I’m beginning to believe a 3rd party would never be successful. The 2-party system is a swampy self-reinforcing system which controls ballot access and even things on a local, precinct level (observers, election judges, etc). A 3rd patriot party would probably annihilate the GOP but wouldn’t ultimately be able to become a viable opponent to the Democrat party. The unfortunate reality is that we aren’t a Parliamentary system and we need to hold a majority in order to stop Dems or advance America-First leadership.
Increasingly I think the answer is to get involved on a local level – Patriots need to run for every local office (some of which run unopposed or even unfilled in some cases). Even local crossing guard if necessary. But most importantly anything operating in a precinct level. If we can secure the elections process then the GOPe will be dealt a death-blow. I’m certain that the so-called “incumbent advantage” is due to party elections machinery from both parties directing efforts to cheat cooperative and malleable incumbents back into office over their challengers.
Perhaps but what we have been doing clearly doesn’t work so why not try something different.
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“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”
“Increasingly I think the answer is to get involved on a local level “
You won’t learn. It’s been done and called the Tea Party.
Mitch routed those politically unsophisticated grass rooters while yawning.
Who controls the money will always control the Republican Party.
The Republicans stand for insider State management of you. They seem to have no other political philosophy.
One of the things we should and CAN address; after Perot, both wings of the Uniparty, in a joint effort, changed laws making it more difficult for a “new” party, to get on the ballot in all 50 States.
IMHO, they also infiltrated and took control of the existing “third parties” that were grandfathered in; Dems took the Green party, Reps took the Libertarian.
Laws that were changed can be changed again.
This is an issue in each State, just as is election integrity.
Thus the need for everyone to support our MAGA candidates. 80 million voters X $100 = $8 billion. If you think a $100 each is too much, wait until you see what the Dems have in store for your future tax bills.
Read or listen to George Washington’s farewell address. The audio is 38 minutes and worth your time.
He warns about the rise of political parties.
Chojun- see my responses above. You are absolutely correct. It will be much easier to reform the existing GOP from the local precinct all the way up. A third party will go nowhere and just make the Dirty Dems even more powerful.
This is why our side keeps losing so many battles. No unity. United we stand, divided we fall. Simple.
MAGA party doesn’t mean abandoning the two party system, it means replacing the Republican Party, just like they replaced the Whigs and the Whigs replaced the Federalists.
Millions of us tried to do this with the Tea Party in 2009. The whole movement was hijacked by RINOs, the Koch Brothers, and the COC. And the people we helped get elected turned out to be fake Tea Party conservatives. That is why I want an America First Party. Also local elections may work if you do not live in a corrupt blue county like I do. Republicans do not win here or if they do they are Dempublicans.
Dr. Kelli Ward was just re-elected to head the Republican Party of Arizona with Donald Trump’s endorsement. I may be mistaken but the flavor I sense from this weekend in Arizona is that she and her krew may be getting ready to stage an exorcism of the NoName and Romney surrogates from respected positions in the AZ GOP.
Mark Kelly should enjoy breathing the air and making the rounds in DC for the next two years.
I hope so too. But to my earlier post the trustworthy GOP chairs (few as they may be) need to start working on a purge of swampy, establishment-connected members on a local level before they turn their sights to the federal level.
Sometimes it is easier to get volunteers to work in campaigns for federal or statewide offices rather than local offices. There can actually be more tension in the local campaigns, especially in small places where extended families live. Since you can get volunteers for the bigger races, don’t neglect those bigger races.
Having said that, I agree wholeheartedly that the local races are key. Our Republican Party of Texas chair says that the most important positions on a ticket are the ones for school board trustees.
They retire happy.
UniParty got rid of PDJT.
Electing more lying Republicans solves nothing, Patriot Party quick please.
The spectacle of the Republicans in the Senate voting continuously with the Democrats, the only opposition being the Patriot Party will sharpen the dull reflexive attitudes of the proles.
A new party may not be enough.
Agree. Wouldn’t it be wonderful if we could actually shrink the federal government?!
We’ll see how this plays out, but it will be painful … change always is. Either a new party to replace the GOP or a shock to its system so severe that the soul of the party changes; in any case, such a change will upset the status quo for the next decade or so.
“a shock to its system so severe that the soul of the party changes”
Please….any “shock change” will be a sham, just mirrors for your benefit. They know you’ll love it.
Their aim has been successful in spades, from Lindsey to the Rooster…talk a game your sheep voters like then do nothing or the opposition and rely on the sheep to forget.
The lack of memory can’t be overcome, it’s a genetic trait.
The jury is still out on PDJT starting a 3rd party; various news outlets are running with the story from Maggie Haberman of NYT, that he won’t go that route … but hey, it’s the NYT we’re talking about here, so what he’s up to is anyone’s guess. It’s his timing as to what he’ll do and when.
President Trump officially disavowed the Patriot Party:
https://docquery.fec.gov/pdf/667/202101259413340667/202101259413340667.pdf
Seneca, I respect all your contributions here highly and look forward to your posts very much.
That said, this PDF statement merely states that PDJT disavows this particular guy’s Patriot Party which was implying it had PDJT’s support when it doesn’t.
It has no bearing on whether PDJT wants or doesn’t want a new party.
In fact, this action could easily indicate that PDJT is getting a little more serious about the idea and making sure that no one else plants the flag before he does so himself. Who knows?
I say we don’t know where he stands yet. I hope we learn soon!
I wonder if the Republican purging/censoring taking place has President Trump reconsidering a new Patriot party. It would be helpful to know more about where he actually stands on this issue.
I was looking forward to voting against Rob Portman in the upcoming election. I guess I will have to settle for voting out Mike DeWine.
Me, too… Watching Facebook, Jim Renacci seems to be posting quite a bit lately — and some posters say he plans to run for governor. Not thrilled — he is a conservative, but seems sort of lackluster to me…
Lol same here. Think I’ll make a call tommrow and let Rob Lnow he finally for once did what was best for his constituents. I’ll also if he would possibly be willing to expedite the situation a little faster say maybe This Friday?
Pressure him to resign now. There is no use for a short timer watching the clock. We’ve seen how it plays out… The limpwristed GOP House ‘17 – ‘19
I’ll say it again. Third parties are a fool’s game. History agrees with me. It’ll fair as well as the Libertarians do.
But at least, Libertarians get to pick a candidate. Independents do not–They only get to vote for another party’s candidate.
A better plan would be to form a Freedom caucus within each state’s Republican Party.
Wishful thinking gets you Q distractions and grifters such a Powell or a Woods.
Of course, sounding off and waving your arms around is a damn sight easier than going to your local precinct and organizing.
Please stop with the Q references.
We’ve heard it a million times.
Powell and Woods are not grifters, and you could have gotten your point across without that line.
The GOP was a third party so you might want to work on your history.
How can we even discuss with a straight face, potential wins and losses when the deck is stacked. It’s silly, though I have been called “delusional” twice in the past week for saying the election was stolen. It seems even some of the most prominent figures in the Conservative movement have moved away from “the steal” leading me to feel like an island. We are now 9/11 truthers if we think voting is fruitless in rigged elections. This has been the most bizarre narrative development in my lifetime. Was PDJT misleading his supporters (as they say now on the Left)???? You look at a projection such as this post and it seems the “steal” is a trivial matter and it’s business as usual.
The most important item of business is finding a process to correct the illegal voting with the machines now in place. I’m going to work at the local level here in Texas but I don’t have a plan other than just to blindly keep pushing. We will NEVER win another election as long as the lefties can continue to do to us what they did in the last election.
What about a wing inside the GOP?
Look at what the DSA with the squad has done
They’ve nearly taken over the party and certainly pushed them into the ignorance we see today.
Primary all of the RINOS out in Congress and the Senate
Just a thought with a little less rebuilding.
Either way, I’m down.
I’ll do anything other than the status quo
I like Sam’s idea above about forming a Freedom Caucus within each state’s Republican party. It’s a brand that’s already known and respected among conservatives, and might garner support from actual Freedom Caucus members in Congress.
I hope Portman’s off shore accounts are full..so long
most here better understand the role of the FBI…they will target any threat to the 2 party system
likely popular third party candidates will be shown false evidence produced by our FBI to frame them.
did you all miss what the FBI did to Trump..the FBI is now weaponized.
and how many of those 34 states are still using DOMINION s/w?
Call me a Debbie downer but this reminds me of 2018 like 40 R from congress retired so the D can take the house. the machines are set (and let’s not forget they cheated then in the same manner as 2020) if your not approve you just not winning. I have a feeling that most of the people in congress are unelected. After Nov 3, 2020 do you think they’re just going to be honest and say now we can play straight? I don’t think so, this is an overtake of our country. And BTW by 2022 this country will be gone as we know it.
Conmunism must cheat, because it can not compete.
In free and fair elections, with the conmunist candidates HONESTLY telling voters what they intended, they wouldn’t win.
So OF COARSE they cheat.
They create illusions, false narratives and double speak.
They create divisions where none exist, and exploit divisions, driving wedges into cracks to enlarge them.
Divide and conquer is their strategy, so we won’t stand united in opposition to their power grab.
But, even the Power they grasp and consolidate, is an ILLUSION.
WE, the People have the power: they ONLY wield such power, as we give to them with our compliance.
Withdraw our consent IN UNITY, and they are exposed as having NO power. Its an ILLUSION, its a CON. See thru the Con, and the ILLUSION.
You’re right, as usual, Dutch….
To paraphrase OJ’s lawyer’s line: “if they don’t fit, you must acquit”, you are saying that the Left’s credo is: “if we can’t compete, we must then cheat”… That sounds right to me…
But, from one friend to another, it is not “COARSE”…. It is “course”…. You have posted it so many times I wanted to point it out…. Just trying to help…
I felt the same way when I read this announcement. Portman is 65, nice age to “retire” and try something new, and probably has a nice portfolio. I am sure he will be offered some tv gig maybe on CNN.
Meanwhile, Democrat Rep. Tim Ryan is waiting in the wings and will probably run for the seat. He was a Presidential candidate in the Dem primary. Ryan knows how to sound like the working-man’s candidate and could get crossover votes. He isn’t well-liked in the Mahoning Valley because he has done nothing except talk, support anything Pelosi wanted and has not helped this area at all.
I was worried I would have to choose between him and Portman and I sure didn’t want either of them. But I could see Ryan winning the primary for this seat. So let’s see who the Republicans come up with. I do think Ryan will have a lot of money behind him too. He has been preparing a Senate run for years.
I live in Ohio..and I could not pick him up out of a 2 man parade.
nothing burger imho
Ryan is a “moderate” wolf in sheep’s clothing… So obvious… So transparent… But will likely fool the majority and be elected…. We are too stupid to hold the Republic.
we need some MAGA’s in the primary.
35 million additional bright, shiny new voters and a few thousand more Honduran voters (headed to the border now) should pretty much be the last nail in the coffin. But just to make sure, we’ll continue with chain migration so we can get those numbers up to around 90 or 100 million.
Si
Everything was just fine with these swamp rats until Donald Trump came along.
And then America got a peak behind the curtain, and discovered how corrupt and monstrous politicians and bureaucrats really are..
Looking at you, Republicans. May you lose, big time.
For starters I have no idea where the line of demarcation gets drawn…. I think a hope for a third party that succeeds is one that takes the ‘America First’ approach without the Trump brand (hear me out) and manages to align otherwise somewhere in the middle politically. With the Democrats swinging SO far left I bet there is a pool of moderate Democrats that could be swayed. I think there is NO sway if its Donald Trump running. But a platform of America first, police and fire good, illegal immigrants bad, respect others views good, tell people how they should think bad, fiscal responsibility and personal responsibility good, welfare bad, fair trade good, wars bad, capitalism good, big govt bad,…. you get the idea.
sorry that time has past..the bolsheviks are now in control of all Government..
they will use that power..see Russia 1917
those bastards only military can remove from power …. no one else will -no new party…no new/old political -messiah…too many very naive ppl here.
Moderates have never gotten anything done in this country and continue to sit back and watch soldiers get sent off to battlefields in foreign countries without even having the courage to vote in Congress to declare war on said foreign country.
Done with people that constantly have their fingers in the wind…..aka moderates!
As far as Lisa Murkowski goes, she was primaried once, then in the general, she ran on a write-in ballot….AND WON!!
With the R party?? I am thru with them. Doesn’t matter anyway, the election is going to be stolen again. Mark my words.
On top of that, why only LM?
We have nothing to lose by forming a new party. We have everything to lose by sitting back and sitting out or holding our noses to vote for the murkowskis of the party. Screw the GOP and begin the MAGA Patriot party starting today. It’s now or never.
Assuming no chance of swinging the House or Senate in ‘22, why not get started with a new party. It’s not like starting from scratch. There is a built in base that simply needs to change affiliation on a simple form.
American exceptionalism is its own draw. People seek the truth and the light. There does not need to be any sales job to build the base. Strict principles stated with verification of a possible candidate’s past actions, achievements, and votes. DC is about favor, status, and pork. A new party’s positions should disqualify those seeking DC’s snake oil and charms.
It’s probably a good idea to sort everything out at the local and state level. The uniparty will eat there own and self destruct. They made a deal with the devils that hate all of America and what it is. That is a position that is indefensible in the long term. So, an established America First/Patriotic/Constitutional party and elected officials will be a welcome change from the chaos that is ramping up.
Oh yeah- it’s so simple to start a third party in all 50 states! Just fill out a form and voila! There it is. Magic. A brand new party with candidates on the ballots of all 50 states. So easy!
Please don’t insult my intelligence.
This is true. It’s the sort of thing that Bannon is always calling a long slow grind.
In fact, the best way of figuring out what we need to do is to pick whatever is most difficult. The hardest thing is usually the right thing.
Perhaps both can be done concurrently. New party to run candidates for certain seats (particularly those held by [D] in MAGA zones) plus targetted primary challenges to insert more MAGA into GoP. Then, at some stage down the track, subject to circumstances, a reunion may be possible. However, at this stage I think a nationwide 3rd party may be too much infrastructure to build in just a few years.
If President Trump endorses someone in the 2022 Georgia Republican Primary I will support ($) and vote for that person. If the GOPe puts the fix in and someone else advances to the general election I will not vote for them. This is for all the races, from Crossing Guard to Senator.
A third party splitting the vote is adverse to the ultimate interests of CofC/UniParty. The democrats would be forced into the position of enacting the economic policies they’ve paid lip service to for a decade plus.
When is someone going to start this third party we are all supposed to join?
Campaigns begin in eleven months. If we’re going to do this third party thing, we have to start now. How about a discussion on starting a third party.
How about inviting the person who is starting the third party to write a guest article, and we can all discuss things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chuck Grassley will be 89 on Election Day, 2022. Even though he’s mentally like a 35 year old compared to Jim Crow Joe, not sure Iowa voters will think he could stay in office until age 95.
Look, people like him and Diane Feinstein and any other old folks in Congress need to get off the stage already.
Although I loudly object to legislators staying around until there is nothing left of them but their dentures, Senator Grassley is in a different category. He is a statesman who will be very hard to replace.
let’s hope a third party gets CCP approval..McConnell will wait for the Chinese OK..
think I am kidding? China won the war that was never acknowledged by Trump or DC –
it will be written in the history books as the best military take over in history of the People’s Republic
a bioweapon none dared call it that.
A couple years ago I watch the city take down an old run down century home, once leveled there were rats hundreds of them running from the property. Reminds me of the Rinos running from their impending collapse.
“ a Republic if you can keep it” we couldn’t keep it took too much effort. We ain’t had a genuine Constitutional Republic in decades, what we got here in America is clown show.
I could not agree more SD. The GOP needs to be destroyed. We need a Patriot third party NOW.
With the destruction of the GOP (millions switching party affiliation) a Patriot Party will be the 2nd party. A major portion of a political party switching to another is a death sentence.
There needs to be a pilot program set up in a state where it will matter. I live in MO. The state DNC and GOP machines both need burnt down. Roy Blunt is a GOPe member from a MO GOPe family. Burn him down. The MO GOPe governor slipped in the side door when the ELECTED Populist/Patriot Governor was railroaded and forced to resign under false indictment by a Soros funded Attack Dog. Burn him down too.
Remember when the GOPe wanted a no third party or independent run by Trump in ‘16? They KNOW they are screwed when we walk. I say we walk. And, pour gas on anything GOP and light it. Burn the whole farking thing to the ground and make sure the message is crystal clear.
With Portman out in Ohio, I think Jim Jordan should seriously consider running for the Senate. He has state-wide name recognition and he is a solid conservative.
If not Jordan, then someone he vets and endorses would suit many just fine.
Alternatively, if you do some perusing of the Ohio legislative branch website and proposed legislation, Nino Vitale has decent MAGA boba foxes and seems to be a promising up and comer. Maybe even for Senate if Jim Jordan declines for whatever reason.
Also, may not be Senator material, but Judge Lucci in Painesville made national news when he determined spas, gyms, and bar closings were unconstitutional. Or something like that.
We might as well start a list in Ohio of courageous candidates ready to fill holes as needed.
School boards need serious help in Ohio, too!
*”boba foxes” should be “bonafides.” Vitale has bonafides! Jiminy Crickets!
Vitale is very impressive when I hear him get interviewed on our conservative AM station..a firebrand.
School boards nearly everywhere need serious help.
I used to attend city commission meetings. At those meetings, the city manager was seated with the city attorney and a couple others at a table located below the dais.
At the school board, the superintendent shares the front and center space on the dais with the president of the school board. No wonder superintendents are disproportionately compensated while the schools underperform.
A few years ago, one of our local activists found a lobbyist serving in our state’s regional educational system. When he won that seat as regional trustee, Microsoft upped their contract with him to at least $40k/year. Education is big business. It attracts some bad actors.
No Third Party. I thought Sarah Palin was going to run against Murkowski?
The GOPe gained 63 seats in the House of Representatives in 2010. Unfortunately John B (maj leader) enjoyed the moment a little too long with his best friend John Barleycorn and then the moment passed. So this kind of thing HAS been done but next time some follow-up with decent leadership is needed. Hence maybe new patriot party leaders might be able to take control of GOPe?
In the Senate, I still have hopes for Sarah Palin who is a born leader and might try against Murkey, as she has mentioned that recently.
If Angus King and Bernie Sanders can be in the senate as Independents there’s no reason why there can’t be an America First/Patriot Party man or woman there.
We’ve been betrayed for 50yrs. or more. They’re not going to stop. Split the vote ? … hasn’t Sundance shown overwhelming evidence that we have only one party, the uniparty, with very few exceptions ? Haven’t seen a better time for a new party.
Hope Johnson can be talked into staying. The rest can go pound sand.
But this is a great opportunity to give Jim Jordan a promotion to the Senate. ?
Now is the time. Strike while we have 80M pissed-off Patriots. It’s inevitable that a new party is going to be formed – sooner or later. Why wait? Let’s roll. Now or never. What do we have to lose???
Additionally, for all practical purposes, 2016 was a 3rd-party event when we elected President Trump against GOP & GOPe. We would just be finalizing it by giving it a name – Patriot Party.
It’s time.
https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/registering-political-party/
Forming a new national or state political party organization: New party organizations must register with the FEC when they raise or spend money over certain thresholds in connection with a federal election.
The FEC determines if a committee has demonstrated enough national (or state) activity to qualify as a national (or state) party committee. Before taking advantage of higher contribution limits available to these party committees, a committee will have to ask for an FEC advisory opinion to verify that it has attained national (or state) committee status.
If a party organization will be active only in state or local elections, it doesn’t need to register with the FEC.
Forming a local branch of an existing political party (for example, Democratic, Republican, Libertarian or Green party): Local branches must register their party organization with the FEC when they raise or spend money over certain thresholds in connection with a federal election.
When a local party organization is required to register with the FEC, it becomes a local party committee. A local party committee is presumed to be affiliated with the other federal party committees in its state. Affiliated committees share limits on contributions made and received.
If a party organization will be active only in state or local elections, it doesn’t need to register with the FEC.
So what.
Very important information. And that ain’t all of it.
This is the way.
So are we just going to pretend that the CIA doesn’t have veto power in our battle with Decepticons?
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Until the people willing to fight do their part, voting is a waste of time. Worse, it gives a valuable commodity to the CIA that they can then give to whomever they wish…