There has been considerable debate and discussion about the next steps for President Trump in contesting the election outcome. According to media reporting on the discussions it appears the White House is listening to several opinions including a group containing Sidney Powell (outside campaign) and a group led by Rudy Giuliani (inside campaign).
Despite the common objective amid the two groups, there have been some stories written by media intended to diminish and/or marginalize the ongoing effort. In this interview with Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s campaign lawyer outlines the formal approach underway by the inside campaign team. [The audio/visual isn’t great but it works]
https://youtu.be/XK1CwcIPpck
In addition to the information provided by Giuliani, there are three distinct data-points that could align in favor of supporting President Trump’s ongoing effort:
- Acceptance by the Supreme Court of the request by the Trump campaign to hear arguments against the Pennsylvania election outcome.
- A pending DNI report by John Ratcliffe outlining foreign influence in the election.
- The outcome of the Georgia run-off election on January 5th.
If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the campaign case; and if the DNI report can show foreign interference connection to the election; and if the Georgia run-off holds momentum toward the GOP; then it is more likely a Senator will object on January 6th to the certification of the electors and request a roll-call vote in the House and Senate.
These three positive outcomes would align with congressional meetings reported today within the White House.
Everything above tracks with the known direction of the preferred “inside group”, and their advice toward President Trump.
However, the independent “outside group” containing: Attorney Sidney Powell, Attorney Lin Wood, Lt. General Michael Flynn, and now former CEO Patrick Byrne, appear to be advising for a more forceful approach with use of the 2018 executive order safeguarding against foreign interference in the election.
The narrative engineering media have accused the outside group of attempting to stimulate interest in use of the U.S. military via the Insurrection Act.
(Politico) […] But that hasn’t stopped the act from becoming a buzzword and cure-all for prominent MAGA figures like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, two prominent pro-Trump attorneys leading efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and even one North Carolina state lawmaker. Others like Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser who was recently pardoned for lying to the FBI, have made adjacent calls for Trump to impose martial law.
The ideas have circulated in pro-Trump outlets and were being discussed over the weekend among the thousands of MAGA protesters who descended on state capitols and the Supreme Court to falsely claim Trump had won the election. (more)
In essence the DC media is attempting to isolate, ridicule and marginalize the entire effort of both groups by weaponizing a dictator Trump narrative open to use of the military via the Insurrection Act or Martial Law.
Into this fray any meeting with President Trump by the outside group is being weaponized by anti-Trump media. President Trump was pushing back against this narrative effort by media over the weekend:
It is important to remember the White House counsel would be providing legal advice from the position of “The Office of the Presidency.” The White House counsel’s job is to uphold the concentric circles of legal protection that surround President Trump or any U.S. President. There are some topics of conversation that White House counsel would not allow to take place inside the oval office.
The distinction between White House counsel (Pat Cipollone) and Trump Campaign counsel (Rudy Giuliani) is the former looks out for the “office” while the latter looks out for the political interests. The distinctions are narrow, but the distinctions are very real.
The difference between the two sets of advisors is a distinction the media enjoy exploiting to give the appearance of division. This creates friction and leads to turmoil. The DC media know this game well, and any time there is a republican president in office they use this marginalization and isolation narrative to stir up trouble.
As a direct outcome The New York Times published an article on Saturday morning attempting to create division and pushing a narrative intended to create trouble amid two aligned groups: Inside Campaign group and Outside Campaign group.
NEW YORK TIMES – President Trump on Friday discussed making Sidney Powell, who as a lawyer for his campaign team unleashed a series of conspiracy theories about a Venezuelan plot to rig voting machines in the United States, a special counsel investigating voter fraud, according to two people briefed on the discussion.
It was unclear if Mr. Trump will move ahead with such a plan.
Most of his advisers opposed the idea, two of the people briefed on the discussion said, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who in recent days sought to have the Department of Homeland Security join the campaign’s efforts to overturn Mr. Trump’s loss in the election. (more)
The larger goal by DC media is to isolate President Trump by fracturing his base of support. The outside group (Powell, Wood, Flynn, Byrne) are fighting a different type of confrontational battle, while the inside group (Giuliani, Ellis et al) are attempting to bridge their legal effort with congressional and political support.
[NOTE: White House counsel is between both groups protecting “The Office”]
Obviously the MAGA community supports both approaches. However, to no-one’s surprise the approach of the more confrontational outside group feeds a yearning for justice amid a 2020 election outcome that is filled with evidence of fraud and injustice.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, one of the outside group, Patrick Byrne, went on Twitter on Sunday and kicked-up a hornets nest of division which plays directly into the hands of the DC media who thrive on the division narrative.
While Mr. Byrne may have the best intentions in mind, saying President Trump is “lied to” by his advisors is not the best approach. Byrne may believe the confrontational strategy of the outside group is a better plan, and he may forcefully advocate for that approach, but going public with the content of an oval office meeting is never a good idea.
The content or context of a meeting in the Oval Office should always be kept private, and outlining conflict for the purpose of position advocacy never ends well.
The public airing of internal debate (or conflict) only leads to the principle officer (President Trump) having to draw distinct lines amid participants. Internal conflict made public only fuels the division narrative.
If Patrick Byrne feels the president is not being served by his advisors, apparently he had four-and-a-half hours to make that exact point. There is no value in taking an antagonistic approach public, and again it only feeds division…. which is what the media are seeking to exploit.
The conflict narrative is worsened by Mr. Byrne going onto Newsmax [SEE HERE] and podcasts [SEE HERE] to keep pushing his message that President Trump is not being served…. Byrne also gave interviews to Epoch Times:
— Patrick Byrne (@PatrickByrne) December 22, 2020
At a certain point enough purposeful animosity is simply enough. No doubt the most gleeful group watching Byrne at work are the same media who can take a backseat and appreciate the division of President Trump’s base of support.
There is a certain predictability to all of this:
- Wednesday Night – Michael Flynn recommended (Newsmax) impounding Dominion machines by order of President Trump; and noted military possibilities.
- Thursday – The DC media stirred up the controversy around the insurrection act by painting Trump supporters as unstable. Joint Chief’s General Milley said the military would not engage in any political effort.
- Friday – Sidney Powell and Patrick Byrne meet with President Trump in the Oval Office.
- Saturday – The New York Times framed the Powell/Byrne meeting as a radical effort to remain president.
- Saturday night – President Trump pushed-back against the Martial Law narrative.
- Sunday Patrick Byrne criticizes the White House advisory group, President Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, and the office of White House counsel.
Notice the fuel for division is from the outside group. What happens next is predictable:
- Monday (tonight) sensing the president is being boxed into a division narrative; which ultimately weakens him and fractures the base of support; President Trump’s campaign lawyer Rudy Giuliani has no other option other than to push back against Sidney Powell and Patrick Byrne.
The bottom line is people within the MAGA community must resist the urge to fracture and divide based on differing opinion of approaches. Everyone wants the same goal and nerves are on edge among patriots who have poured their heart and soul into supporting President Trump amid the face of four years of overwhelming adversity.
President Trump loves this country and is not a quitter amid adversity. No-one loves this nation more than President Trump and his base of supporters. Everyone wants the best possible outcome.
Bottom line: Let Trump be Trump!
Breathe…
There is no value in publicly airing private differences.
Never compromise leadership.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCz2GfB39Cc&feature=emb_logo
thats what i am trying to figure out. What was the value Byrne was seeing…
Drive more people to Jan 6th to get a bigger visual?
no one should hurt the message. i agree on one uniform one to win. don’t undermind the leader.
Patrick Byrne is coming from a good place. Trump has been ill served by numerous RINOs, rolcons, and stealth resisteance warriors. In many instances he was bamboozled, hoodwinked, Led astray, Run amok! Need I list them all? Session, Rosey, Barr, Coates, Wray, Mattis, McMasters, Bolton, Spencer, Omorosa, Mooch, Kelly. Neilson. Cripes! Way too many. Byrne may be trying to correctly motivate the base to step up and get nasty. Sometimes ya gotta get nasty!
Don’t forget one of the worst of all in Chris Christie
Agree. I was surprised when I heard Christie (along w/ Rudy) was supposedly “helping” Trump prepare for the first debate. That POS should’ve been long gone from Trump’s circle.
IMHO, you’re a sock puppet and WAY too interested in promoting Byrne.
Even if Byrne is believable here, one has to acknowledge Sundance’s words above. If he’s actually honest, then he’s a dangerous loose cannon. Simple as that.
I believe that POTUS knows exactly who/what Byrne is, and many of you are too naive to see his usefulness. (Either that, or you think WE are.)
Amen, PJ!
And what about Cipollone the leaker (and probably lier)?
Yes you got it. Byrne did not go rogue. He was responding to the lies being spread by Maggie Haberman. Gee I wonder who leaked to her??? The rolcons and Rinos are now popping up to spread their disinfo. ^^^^^^^^^
Not only is he a lier, he is a looser.
At the end of the day who will end up being more damaging to POTUS?
In less than 24 hrs. Rudy G seems go have walked back his statement relating to to the Powell Byrne meeting while Byrne has not. Very telling IMO.
He said he wanted the truth out. The head counsel Pat Cipionne (sp?) leaked lies to NYT and Byrne said he wouldn’t have said a word if not for that. Copionne lied to NYT about martial law being discussed and Byrne said it never was. Et Tu, Brutus? The enemies have been in the Oval Office and probably are the reason Wray was never fired.
I for one was happy to hear what makes sense – these people have been lying to POTUS, giving bad advice, because they have multi-million $ jobs waiting for them once they’re out of WH.
FYI Maggie Haberman is a lying bitch. We don’t know Pat said that… and Maggie played us.
You’re defending the lawyer who Byrne said he was ready to punch because he was so rude to POTUS? Byrne has no reason to lie – he’s an independent guy, has lots of his own money and will never be a politician.
My instinct tells me Byrne is telling the truth.
Perhaps, but it is also worth remembering the same guy was willing to run an operation against Donald Trump Jr. and the Trump campaign on behalf of his FBI handlers in 2016. (Via Maria Butina)
…. While simultaneously under SEC investigation that was being run by Peter Strzoks wife.
Well all that I can think about that is Byrne said he changed his opinion of POTUS after dealing with him – he said Trump is nothing like the media portrayed and he seemed surprised that he felt sorry for Trump having to depend on such scheming and disrespectful “advisors”.
But maybe i’m wrong…that’s always possible. 🙂
BTW, I love this site and the exchange of ideas here. It keeps me on my toes and up to date.
Also grateful that the transition worked so well – that had to be a pretty significant endeavor…especially on such short notice.
If Byrne was in the meeting, and let’s assume he was there, nobody has said he wasn’t, he would have been invited.
The President has always said he values a diverse range of opinions. Maybe Byrne has said what’s gotta be said.
Agree, but as SD opined, kept it within the 4.5 hours of meeting. Make your case there, not on Twitter.
Except, everyone makes their cases on Twitter now. EVERYONE. If you are not on Twitter you are a step behind- just the way it is. Not right. Not wrong. Just the way it is.
Never been on Twatter never will and I have not missed anything IMPORTANT.
But a damaging leak was done by Cippolone to the NYT. Cippolone was the one who didn’t keep info in the meeting.
So Byrne was obligated to correct that and say that martial law was NOT discussed, and that matched President Trump’s tweet.
Maybe Byrne … did ask PDJT b4 he tweeted this disclosure? If so, POTUS wanted this info out. If not, then I would view Byrne as suspect. Its too dangerous this late in the game to be running solo w/out PDJT’s ok.
Byrne said he was in the mtg with Powell and Flynn. This infers they are working as a close team. It is not out of the range of credulity that Byrne discussed going public with Powell and Flynn ahead of time and POSSIBLY agreement was reached to go public. Or maybe no agreement and he moved unilaterally.
Either way, Byrne was trying to get a msg to the President and to his supporters as to why insufficient movement to-date. The worse that could happen is that this gets Trump’s advisors back in line. Not seeing any downside.
Can a leopard change his spots?
Well, many people, including me, didn’t like what we heard about Trump before 2016. He ran in liberal NY circles. We have liked him in office since. So Byrne not voting for him in 2016 does not discredit him.
Agree.
I think that time is of the essence and Byrne had to debunk the NYT ruse. Doing that supports the president.
Good point on him being willing to run an operation against DJT and after all he readily admits he didn’t vote for him.
But as Scarlett rightly says, many people came around to supporting PDJT after seeing him in action.
I totally agree it’s unwise to air private discussions publicly, however due to Habberman’s article spewing lies and THAT causing the division, I’m viewing Byrne like Snowden- it’s ugly but it is a view into the truth.
I do have reservations about how Byrne seemed to waffle on Meadows but the heated confrontation by he and Flynn asking the WH council whether they thought the President won the election and their lack of response in the affirmative speaks volumes.
After all, ‘truth has no agenda’ is the motto here and a big if is whether Byrne IS actually telling the truth completely here.
The fact that Byrne self funded an effort to investigate the election irregularities and sounded the trumpet about it after admittedly not voting for PDJT makes me overlook his quirkiness and view him as one of the good guys sticking up for the President and the constitution. Ymmv.
But he then refused to participate in the operation to take down Trump, which is why the FBI finally dropped Butina. See this bombshell interview he gave last week (there are also others on other shows):
https://centipedenation.com/transmissions/overstock-ceo-patrick-byrne-gives-shocking-interview-in-trump-dc-hotel-detailing-his-role-in-fbi-operation-targeting-hillary/
Willing to run an operation is a bit different from the betrayal POTUS has dealt with.
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Cipollone’s advice against firing Barr and Wray has done FAR more damage than Byrne’s recent statements ever could.
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If Biden pulls off the steal it will be because of Wray and Barr, not Byrne exposing bad advice from people like Cipollone.
There has been sooooo much happen under the Trump admin that it is amazing he even lasted this long. I don’t care how they do it but never ever let Joe bidet mess up the big toilet.
Cipollone is leaking to NYT-Habermann and maybe even making up lies and Sundance is attacking Byrne and defending Cipollone…
Sundance is questioning Byrne’s actions. He is not defending Cipollone.
He nowhere even *mentions* that Cipollone leaked to the NYT and is probably the source for the lie about marshal law. He doesn’t mention that Cipollone doesn’t even recognise that Trump won (according to Byrne, which Flynn just confirmed on Twitter and was also retweeted by Powell). He also doesn’t mention that – according to Emerald Robinson from Newsmax (an excellent reporter), Cipollone convinced Trump not to fire Wray (and probably others like Haspel).
Byrne said he came out because Cippolone is leaking and lying about what was said so he came out to give the truth. I’m glad he came out and told us about these people. We need to understand all Trump has is us the people and if we don’t get off our asses and into the street to show public support NOW then we will lose. It is on us now.
Ya know what the problem is? We do not give PDJT enough credit to know what he doing?
The President has strategized superbly on so many things. He has accomplished so much in 4 years that the prior 4 POTUSES could not do in 40.
Somehow, as bad as it looks– and it does look bad– our lion of a president will pull this off in the 11th hour. The waiting and hoping is, however, quite exhausting.
There’s value to yourself – if you’re a desperate, nutty, attention-hoor.
SMH. Thanks, Sundance.
I would have done the same thing he did.
This is urgent, screw the rules.
Consider this, Byrne may still have the FBI- CIA as his master.
I’ m still leary of Carter Page and I’ m not 100% convinced on Cornpopadapolous.
Patrick Byrne seems sincere and on the level. However, there also may be a malign motive to create the sense that the President’s team is in disarray right before tomorrow evening’s critical meeting of the AZ legislature (per Rudy) to specifically address the issue of decertifying the election.
Consider that state and federal legislators will not be anxious to stick their necks out if Team Trump is not solidly behind the President to fight to the end. Legislators could go out on a limb and be sawed off.
Also, Donald Trump for President Inc has just now sued PA in the Supreme Court, and represents the very best and promising lawsuit I have seen (written by the excellent John Eastman) and my money would be on this case getting heard (at long last!). If successful, PA legislators would have to decide how far out to stick their necks.
The more dissension in the Oval Office, the less inclination any legislator will have to raise his hand to say, ‘yes, I object to the electors.’ Or to say, ‘yes, I vote to decertify the election results!’
For me, doubts about Byrne and Lin persist.
Good analysis
I don’t trust Pat Byrne. I only trust Trump at this point.
And Donald Trump may be perfectly happy and productive working within all this discord. We all know he’s the sole person who is going to make all the final decisions as we go forward.
At this point, President Trump must know who he trusts and Rudi and Sidney are both on his side without a doubt. The fact that they are working together with different ideas on how to attack shows us Trump has two valid options.
I think Trump trusts Byrne because he was a successful business guy when he came out a few years ago with his story about the FBI using him to get Trump . Trump is a man who tells it like it is and Byrne is too, I think.
General Flynn is the best,does not have political chops, but maybe has loyalty in NSA?
The only questionable character around him is Meadows, the politician, imo.
A preview of the roll call vote based on the outrageous “stimulus” bill senate vote 92 – 7
That’s a lot of senators who just put POTUS in a bad spot. If he vetos as he should the media calls him scrooge. If he signs it he will lose some support among his base and more importantly those leaning his way post election. I know the media attacks are nothing new but less than a dozen patriots in the senate is distrubing.
At the start of the Covid craziness, everyone received $1200.00. Now, it is $600.00 for the peeps with all sorts of money for Nancy and Chuck to retire on with kickback coming from foreign aid , We are on to this scam, thanks to Hunter and Joe. I could not have more contempt for Congress.
Trump has been a real breath of fresh air.
Patrick may well be a Deep State plant, saying what hes saying in order to hide that hes the actual leaker. Something ain’t right with that dude.
How do some people get so close to the inner circle?
Another thing- why is Our President Trump keeping such a low profile when it comes to addressing the American public?
I hope and pray that he gives a major speech for Christmas.
I have been wondering that myself. POTUS is not out and about like usual? As far as the Byrne guy goes POTUS invited him to the meeting. WHY? What purpose does he serve?
Byrne is a truth teller about what the FBI did to him and to Trump. There are not many truth tellers in Washington DC. about anything. It must be exhausting for our President. There are not many choices for Trump .
Proving coordinated election fraud to the general public is going to be a one-shot deal, given 2 months of social media and MSM conditioning of a Biden win. A half-true claim will be ripped apart, and set a tone of a sore loser. So I do not fault President Trump for managing a lower profile to get all the ducks in a row.
Also, imagine having to manage this, with all of the other attacks around the world — IT hacks of federal gov, COVID induced communism, China navy on the move, Iran emboldened. We are focused on keeping Trump in office, and he has to protect us from everything else.
Byrne has worked closely with the FBI and even the CIA in the past. That is true.
Hardly
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1341080402358919169?s=20
This guy Byrne has been in the spotlight twice. About a year ago he comes on Fox (out of the blue yonder) and tells us about his exploits with supposedly handling the Russian lady spy for the FBI. Then he disappeared until now… Now all of a sudden he is the tattle tale of a recent WH meeting. Not sure how he got invited? His tales of court intrigue are with little detail. So lets see if he stays in the picture over the next few intense days…? That will tell the story…
Byrne isn’t attacking the “office of White House counsel”, he’s attacking – rightly so – swamp rat, leaker and probably lier Pat Cipollone, who, as Byrne correctly says, only cares about his 2m/y contract when Trump leaves office. According to Byrne, Cipollone was asked by Flynn if he believes that Trump lost the elections and he and his associates didn’t answer. They didn’t even deny when Byrne told Trump that he can bring him at least 3 WH employees willing to testify that Cipollone is telling everyone to convince Trump to concede…
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/12/21/dark-to-light-a-meeting-with-the-president/
When Byrne dips his oars in the water, my boat goes in the right direction. Seeing as how we on this side are going against the current, my question is, “how is Byrne hurting if he is helping?”
No one can read minds and know private motivations. What do the acts say? In a world where the powers that be are presuming a Biden presidency, what sense does it make for Byrne to be their significant antagonist? He either believes Biden is in and wants to become a martyr…or what?
We need to hold the line and remain clear headed. The psyops are going to get even more intense as this goes along. Keep an even keel.
They will attempt to divide and conquer. Once done, we are done.
Agree. The voting machine stuff was going down a wacky path. IMHO it was stolen the ole fashion way. Flood the zone with mail ballots and have the harvesters fill them out and return them. Waive the signature rules and they are done. There seems to be psyops and disinfo campaigns going on that are meant to distract.
Sock puppet, How appropriate. IMHO you position fails to see the big picture.
The fraud by computer is a KEY part of the Steal.
Its why Hillary expected to win in 2016, and so ran an in the basement campaign, when she had no Covid excuse.
The Uniparty has been doing this, since 2004, at least. Its why R in Congress, don’t CARE what we want.
To ignore the computer fraud, is to ignore the big picture.
IMHO
Truth!
Computer fraud is the epicenter of the steal. It is directly linked to foreign interference.
The other unlawful actions are bad too and not to be diminished, but the computer fraud by foreign actors is the crucible element of the evidence.
The state legislators cannot overlook it on January 6. If they do, they overtly support fraud. Not acceptable.
It is obvious that Dominion computers/software have to be illegal in our election poicess and there are likely some politicians who do not want that to happen. Sidney Powell is doing us a great service by suing them.
No, computer fraud was the key to the steal.
You are just dismissing what you don’t understand.
They did all the old stuff. Ballot harvesting, voting the graveyard, double voting, destroying Republican absentee ballots and the routine changing the votes of deployed armed services members. But it was nowhere near enough. The red wave for Trump was too big.
This is why even the standard Dominion/Smartmatic vote shaving game wasn’t enough. They needed to force scanner errors that sent error rates from the allowed 0.008% to a stunning 68% or higher.
Why do you think that the corrupt polling officials in the contested states are fighting so hard to prevent forensic examination of the Dominion machines?!
Which is what Sydney has been stating happened from day one, “backfill” of ballot dumps since the algorithms couldn’t overcome the massive red wave, thus the ‘glitches’, all in coordination.
A conspiracy if you will. I for one am glad Byrne and multiple others have struck their necks out. Sydney showed them all courage.
I agree. The machine fraud is the smoking gun, but it’s also harder to prove (without expert analysis) AND concurrence by the authorities.
But there’s the sticky wicket; there are few–if any–“authorities” who will risk it to go on the record and make the claim the machines recorded fraudulent votes for Biden–and away from Trump.
Machine fraud is easy to prove, not hard. And in fact has already been proven over & over again. All the fraud has been proven. Fraud is a given. No “authorities” needed. The POTUS has more authority than anyone on earth. He needs to use it much more effectively. This will not be fixed with lawyers & courts. They are all corrupt. Can we count on Pence to do the right thing on Jan 6 & de-certify the Dem electors from the disputed states, AND recognize the R electors from the same state legislatures? If he does, President Trump wins, & congress doesn’t get a vote to stop it. We certainly can’t depend on congress to uphold any objections. To depend on politicians doing the right thing to save the nation, is not a winning solution. Use the Emergency Broadcast System & update the people every day. Bypass the msm & congress. Go full EO, burn it all down. Flynn is right. Sydney Powell is right. Parallel attacks. Rudy….when was the last time he won anything? jmho
The computer fraud puts treason center stage. It is key.
The 30 percent increase of internet traffic overseas to Frankfurt during the election clearly shows interference by enemy nations.
SP, the old fashioned way would require 10-30 MILLION ballots to be filled out and snuck in to make the numbers work.
That’s a lot of people working double time. I would think the computers had to be involved.
Precisely! And when the computers’ algorithms were found to be insufficient to counter the Trump landslide, they hit the pause button and reverted to the old fashioned and riskier methods. Pure desperation!
One man’s wacky path is another man’s logical presumption. If you told me that little green men were dancing around in your front yard, I would consider your statement a bit wacky. On the other hand, the circumstantial evidence supporting the voting machine fraud is both overwhelming and plausible. If you still believe that powerful, tech savvy agencies like the FBI and CIA are above stunts like this, you are being naive.
Yeah sure a wacky path… WTF
Fractional magic is how over decades they put people in elected office which allowed massive mail in fraud.
Any Treepers remember when Byrne fled to FL and supposedly married a Black street prostitute he’d known for about one day?
Or when he and this Black woman set sail on the high seas to escape the US Gov’t?
And yet he somehow posted pics of himself and her with semi-automatic guns, on the internet?
It was quite a story at the time. We talked about it here. Strangely, my search cannot pull up any of that now.
Now, articles pointedly claim he’s never been married. No references to his high-seas escapade. No pics of his gun-toting Black lady friend to be found. Strange, that.
Sounds suspiciously like the path John McAfee’s life has taken.
Yeah, I think Peoria is confusing the two
Just checked, and you’re right – that was McAfee. No wonder I couldn’t find anything about that in Byrne’s background! My apologies!
You’re confusing Byrne with John McAfee
Interesting
Well said Conservative Foundations! I’m not interested in fueling any notion of division and feeding the trolls that are infesting conservative sites with a vengeance precisely to split the Deplorables. They would not be doing so if they were confident POTUS Trump would not succeed. They aren’t confident, they are very worried.
Stay strong and do not allow yourself to be manipulated. MAGA.
Trump witnessed the election being stolen. There’s no denying that and “stolen” demands action The courts, elected Republicans, the DOJ and FBI, the entire federal bureaucracy wat to see Trump gone and are already figuring out how to maximize their positions and.or preserve their jobs under a Biden government. They don’t much care that the country will suffer a dramatic loss of freedom and liberty—they’re only interested in their own well-being.
The obvious solution is tor the president to use his powers to save his election and, thereby, save the natiion. General Flynn has suggested declaring martial law. I agree. The fate of our nation, our liberty and freedom, depend on what happens over these next few days. As he once said, “What have we got to lose?” We’re almost out of time.
Whatever it takes
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340523944680583169
And if I might add – Military Tribunals of American citizens (even ones owned by China like Biden) would be hyper-fake news.
The hard fact is that this election was stolen. At best Rudy Giuliani, who I admire, has shown just how dysfunctional our entire court system actually is. And this extends to the Supreme Court.
Basically, our entire government has shown itself to be in freefall—at all levels we see incompetence. With our government incapable of acting. Trump must act. I think needs to make Powell a special investigator and give her the power to demonstrate just how the fraud was conducted.
Yes, this is a radical act—although not as radical as declaring martial law. The bottom line, however, is simply that the president must use his office to save our country. There’s just nobody else out there.
I have to say that I wrote this with some reluctance. But, I know what’s coming. Our country has never been in greater peril than now.
Barnes Law broadcast with Richard Baris was interesting. He suggested if all else fails Senate should vote to.not take the electors and force Pelosi to pick Biden through the House.
The only Constitutional avenue is for the State Legislatures in those states to rescind the Biden electors.
Reports are that Antifa and left are threatening Republican legislators .
No, that’s Pence’s job. He decides what electors to certify. He could easily reject the Dem electors from the disputed states & accept the R electors sent in by the legislatures from those states. (BTW, it’s illegal for Governors to certify an election in dispute) Then, it’s over & Trump wins. That is the best case scenario. Anything else is less than 50% chance of success. The “objection” route has about zero chance. The House will never approve any objections, & I doubt the Senate would either. The other way, they don’t get a vote. Pence decides. jmho
I dont think Trump is foolish enough to prematurely announce to the Fake News Media his plans for Insurrection Act and possibly limited Martial Law in some states . I think hes gonna do it. Something may already have been done because his EO says at least some of it would be done in secret.
You think Trump would be foolish enough to prematurely announce to the Fake News Media his plans for Insurrection Act and possibly limited Martial Law in some states ?
Might that not be some Sun Tzu in the vein of not broadcasting your intentions? A dis-info counter psy-op?
And I believe there is a difference between martial law and enacting the Insurrection
Act as I posted
previously.
It’s doubtful such a topic would be discussed in a meeting of this type with so many people in attendance….but that does not mean it is not being considered.
Savvy?
Agreed!! NO Martial Law, just like eliminating the filibuster, the DEMs will use this when they are in power to create the nationwide COVID Lockdown from Hell.
Also, thanks to Obama and McConnell the deep state controls the Brass… the admirals and the generals and JAGs. So there would be nobody in “management” who will lead or give the lower level orders for martial law.
MY hope is that on December 23rd, One minute after Barr “retires”, PDJT VETOes the NDAA and the OMNIBUS COVID Monstrosity; Temporarily moves Ratcliff to AG and Grenell back to DNI. Ratcliff starts issuing indictments with the 2018 EO as the guide post.
Now President Trump can start negotiations on the outcome of the January 6th joint session as the deep state tries to get home for Christmas, and must perform at least 2 VETO overrides. And hide all of it’s election shenanigans.
My bet is always on Donald Trump to win any negotiations to get the best deal
The President MUST be willing to use every tool in his tool box. If he isn’t then he’s already lost. He cannot place limits on himself. If he really would rather lose the country than use Martial Law, then he’d done. Our enemies then know they can push him as far as they want & he won’t use force. Nothing should be off limits now, nothing. That was a bad Tweet for him to make. In fact, he should have Tweeted the opposite, that everything is on the table. Why give the enemy less to worry about?
Eventually, we need to face facts.
I say this NOT to be “downer” at all.
We are NOT fighting to preserve our Republic, it is GONE, and has been for many years.
We are not fighting to PRESERVE our rights, see above.
We are fighting to TAKE BACK our Republic, and our RIGHTS, from the usurpers who STOLE them from us, while we were sleeping.
We do not CURRENTLY ,…HAVE a Republic, and we sure as hell don’t HAVE our rights.
This significant difference if you truly accept it, leads inevitably to what I have referred to as the “Patriot moment”.
Very relevent to Sundances article, above.
IF you think we still have a representative Republic, you believe working THROUGH the system (voting, for instance) will preserve all you hold dear, while working OUTSIDE the system, such as peaceful protest and civil disobedience, ENDANGERS all you hold dear.
However, once you accept the reality that we have already LOST our representation, and our Republic, you realise that attempting to work through a system that no longer exists GUARANTEES you will lose everything you hold dear, and therefore you have no CHOICE, but to fight by any means neccesary, because to do otherwise means EVERYTHING you cherish, is lost.
The moment a Patriotic citisen becomes a Patriot. And, NOW is THAT moment. What Reagan called “A time for Choosing”.
So, ask yourself,…WHAT are you, a Patriotic Citisen,…or a Patriot?
LOOK at the previous article, on the Porkulas bill Congress is passing by Unanimous Consent, and you SEE why the Swamp is pushing “President-elect Biden”;
They are DROOLING, and can’t wait to get back to raping and pillaging our country and us.
THIS is “Representative government”???
Surrender to the Davos crowd, and CCP,…or FIGHT. They leave us no choice.
“They leave us no choice.”
So they have made our choice easy as they have made it for us.
When you’re the enemy, that’s what you do…
And that is all the Insane Left has done, all along.
And yet look at the division among us on recognizing that, even here.
Mr. President, Sidney Powell should be your “inside” group, having the hard truth, and the politicos advising you should be “outside”, trying to compromise that hard truth. (Hint: It is hard because it cannot BE compromised).
“War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want.”
~ William Tecumseh Sherman
Exposing Obama’s secret army SES is going to get us closer to revealing the deep state rot
What you say makes sense. This so called COVID bill is another punch in the face. When did we last have a budget? They spend the money we’re on the hook for to support the Smithsonian and Kennedy Center – places where they must love to hang out and party..more important to them than a waitress with 2 kids paying her rent. Then they hand out “foreign aid” when the aid is needed right here and we’re heading for 30 trillion in debt. We can’t afford no stinkin foreign aid! I have to suspect they gave away our money to people who gave them a cut. These congresspeople are monsters!
Human nature doesn’t change that much and we all know what works to get rid of them. As Patrick Byrne ,and many others, have said: arm yourself.
Please forgive but I am at the point at which I want to see force used. The past two months, no, the past four years, feel like we’ve been sitting around negotiating with burglars… I feel like we patiently waited for justice on so many things, kept being told that plans were in the works… no justice,.. lies…getting strung out… I want to “storm the Bastille”.
YES.
While we may have semantic differences, I don’t find anything in your comments that I would disagree with. I do think, in fact, that the government we thought we had was lost to us long before we realized it. It was the Trump presidency, much to the anger and dismay of the Deep State and UniParty, that revealed the truth to us. With that said, I fear that we are about to lose our country. What comes next is fascism and, with that, freedom and liberty as we have traditionally know it will disappear. The only thing standing between that reality and the America we know and love—is president Trump. And, of course, us.
This is why millions must show in D.C. on January 6th.
Trump won’t call the military to stop the January 6th rally in D.C. . . . but Biden will.
We are so very close to living in an openly totalitarian state.
biden won’t be President on Jan 6th. He isn’t calling in anybody.
Now I’m not sure that General Flynn suggested martial law, but rather use of the insurrection act, which has been commonly used by many presidents.
There is a big difference.
Washington Post – Today, 21 Dec 2020
Trump assembles a ragtag crew of conspiracy-minded allies in flailing bid to reverse election loss
It looks like the WaPo reads The Conservative Treehouse. Huzzah! Onwards and Upwards!
Conspiracy Theorist is the new N-word.
How do I know? Because it is used for the same purpose, in the same kind of way and by the same kind of people – to dehumanize opposition.
I am so stealing that!!
Washington had a rag tag army and won.
“Rag tag”? Hmmm. Seen that descriptor someplace before. Another shout out?
the goal might be to win via the consititution on Jan 6th with contested legislators. By Byrne making this public, he allows the FAKE NEWS to brand this legitimate path as conspiracy.
I’m going to say , Let Trump be Trump ! Remember that ? How come we trusted his instincts in 2016 and now we can’t ? He is not listening to “ conspiracies “ . He knows the foreign interference evidence Sidney has is impossible discount . It shouldn’t be an approach of either or . Let Sidney and Lee be the bulldogs , let Rudy and Jenna be the the velvet gloves . In a battle you have to have your divisions and teams working on different parts of the battlefield .
but the whole think is interesting.
Byrne basically thinking POTUS cant handle his future direction.
“In a battle you have to have your divisions and teams working on different parts of the battlefield “
George S. Patton –
.”In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because, while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms, whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it the better.”
Two days later he repeated his concern when he wrote his wife: “If we have to fight them, now is the time. From now on we will get weaker and they stronger.”
Either Patrick Byrne is frequently at the center of federal government intrigues or he is a pathological liar.
maybe byrne is making up this hacking crap – when the truth of the matter, the fraud was the machine design to push votes to adjudication. and the ability of the machine to count the same vote multiple times if ran through the machine.
meaning dominion created a system to be used by the workers, and generated hacking distractions?
just brain storming.
That’s exactly what the evidence showed in Michigan. The partisans counting the ballots are the other half of the problem.
He was just in a 4 1/2hr meeting with the President and other major players, so that answers your question.
Those who are at the center of federal government intrigues usually are pathological liars. See CIA.
“If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the campaign case; and if the DNI report can show foreign interference connection to the election; and if the Georgia run-off holds momentum toward the GOP; then it is more likely a Senator will object on January 6th to the certification of the electors and request a roll-call vote in the House and Senate.”
That’s 3 ‘Ifs’ there. If 3 ‘ifs’ must happen for success, I hope there is at least 1 alternate ‘if’ in case 1 of those 3 ‘ifs’ fail.
Perhaps that alternate “if” is a wild card named Patrick Byrne, obviously has a part to play after all, he was in a meeting with the President and the others; what that plan is, who knows? Whatever this wild card is all about would certainly be trumpian, wild cards are tricky things, can’t control them once let loose.
Only ONE if needs to happen.
If SCOTUS ,…OR if Ratcliffe,…OR if WE show up, on Jan 6th, in such #’s as DC has never seen (which is the if I am betting on) already two Senators have SAID they will object, and more Reps are saying it, every day.
By the rules of Congress and I think Constitution, IF ONE Senator and ONE Representative object, they CAN NOT certify the electoral college votes.
And THIS part of the process will be public.
They adjorn to own chambers, and behind closed doors they have two hours to resolve the dispute.
With a kajillion people surrounding the capital, demanding their heads in nooses.
And, with still more evidence coming out, and getting out, in thevinterim AND this odious porkulous bill.
If they don’t affirm PDJT as the winner, we have a decision to make. Drag them out by their necks, and hang em,…or lock them in and torch the building.
Frankly, I’m good either way.
But, Peace thru Strength.
Sufficient #’s will be a strong inducement, to do the right thing. So, maybe they’ll get to leave the building under their own power….
Are we Patriots, or are we sheeple?
I’m afraid Mitch and Pelosi will agree to have the session virtual, hiding behind the pandemic, but really from the millions of people
How exactly are they going to decide and agree on anything in 2 hours?
It will be McConnell’s decision. He will have to decide correctly.
Xi decided for him.
That is the best plan I’ve heard dutchman
Ditto.
If one Senator and one Congressman object ,They immediately go into two hour debate and discussion. They then vote on the contested delegations .
If the House and Senate disagree ,the slate of electors sent by the Governors prevail .
The only hope is for the Republican legislators to rescind the Biden electors and vote Trump.electors .
If all else fails the Senate should force the House to be the one who picks Biden
You’ve hit the insurmountable problem. The electors as certified by the Governors are presumed to be valid, and we know that those electors will result in a 306-232 Biden win. And if the House, which is majority Democratic, does not agree to disqualify any such electors, Biden wins and there is nothing at that point that anyone can do to stop it.
So, I’m sorry, but I think we all need to accept at this point that barring an extreme act by Trump to change the game, it’s over. There is no SCOTUS save coming. No Congressional save. An intelligence report isn’t going to move the needle. The Swamp isn’t suddenly going to change its mind after all this time and decide it’s just fine with Trump remaining in office. We must see this for what it is, not what we would wish it to be.
Wrong on all counts. The President of the Senate (Pence) decides what electors are valid, not the Governors or the House. IF it comes to the point where the House has to vote, it’s by State delegation, NOT representatives. Each state gets one vote. Currently, the Republicans have that majority & would presumable win that vote. Secondly, The Ratcliffe report was already given verbally. The 2018 EO is in progress. The report doesn’t have to “move the needle.” It’s purpose is to inform the President of foreign involvement and\or fraud in the election. We already know that was the finding. That there was indeed fraud and foreign involvement. The President is now clear to proceed with whatever remedies he wants to employ. I predict he will use the Jan 6th method first, & if that should fail, he will use other, more direct methods. I do not see President Trump walking away & leaving the country to the deep state mob. Whatever. It. Takes.
Your statement is correct however there is at least one item in the election code which may allow us a couple of ways out. The code states the electors must have been elected by state laws enacted prior to the election. Currently there is contention in several states as to if state laws passed by legislatures were transgressed by 3rd parties. Further an argument can be made that massive fraud does not comply with state law.
It won’t matter if a “kajillion people” go to DC if they go empty-handed.
Does anyone really believe that pelosi will allow anyone to approve any objections? Or Turtle? Not gonna happen. So these objections don’t really mean anything, as it gives the congress an opportunity to blow it out of the water. ONLY Pence (Trump) can save the Republic now. He can throw out the Dem electors & recognize the Republican electors from the disputed states that the legislatures sent in. The congress gets two weeks to respond to Pence. He gets to decide if he will go along with them. If not, Trump wins. So instead of depending on pelosi & turtle, we depend on Pence. Not a great choice, but it’s all we’ve got.
This seems appropriate……..
“If, its and buts were cherries and nuts, it would be Christmas all year long!”
But we all know the tepid approach will not work. IT’s a long shot in every way and the Congress is only playing with Trump now. That you could lay out the necessary steps to this just means his opponents can block him every which way.
I love Rudy and he tried to do this by the book, assumed courts would be reasonable. They haven’t been and they won’t be.
The stolen election has to be saved by us. the people. If we do not get into the streets then we deserve to lose. Drop everything and go to DC on Jan 6. President Trump has endured hell for us and he is tired. He has called on us to come to DC for a protest. Will you answer the call? Byrne is disgusted by the deceit and treachery among those who are supposedly there to support Trump. I’m sure he was shocked at the way they speak & lie to Trump. I will be in DC on Jan 6.
I am willing to do what it takes. But tell me, how will gathering in the streets, shouting “We’re mad as hell and we ain’t gonna take it no more” change the behavior of our enemies — who have no morals, no fear, no respect for law, and no respect for anything, including human life.
Unless there is quiet authorative decisive force, with a willingness to spill blood, the enemies who want to see this country destroyed will not retreat. Marching on Washington — why does he want us there? To do what?
Any speculation? Can someone point me to where POTUS is pleading for us to come? Does he explain why?
Maybe something like this?
jus wundrin- great video of Brave Patriots Fighting For Our Rights. Video shows gestapo Salem police assaulting innocent protesters attempting to enter court building the constitution gives them the right to enter. If we don’t organize and fight back against Nazi States and election steal we are finished.
NOW is the time to show up in the hundreds of thousands on January 6 in Washington DC. We must take our Republic back!
Some in the tweeter feed were saying that the state and local cops weren’t expecting this. That is key.
Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud ‘more than sufficient’ to swing victory to Trump https://washex.am/3nwaBCe. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!
This claim about election fraud is disputed
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1337782061722193924/6iUtoQsP?format=jpg&name=small
Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud ‘more than sufficient’ to swing…
Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy Peter Navarro published a lengthy report Thursday outlining several examples of voting irregularities that are “more than sufficient” to swing…washingtonexaminer.com
# of links…..
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340185773220515840?s=20
And this post by him.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1340362336390004737?s=20
Thank you Newsielady! Was hoping a treeper would repost that awesome video! I hope the DC rally will blare that song while we the people shout FIGHT FOR TRUMP till the walls of congress shake!
Countrydoc,
Have you scrolled over my posts, of the last several days, in which I answered your question, precisely?
Just when I start to feel like a broken record, and you post this.
So, I guess I gotta keep repeating myself.
But, getting tired, so cribsheet version.
What McConnell and Pelosi WANT, is to have a standard counting of the Electoral votes, Biden declared the winner, and the pork buffet is open again, after a four year hiatus.
Numerous Representatives have said they will join Mo Brooks, in objecting to counting the electoral votes.
Two incoming (and so not beholden to McConnel) Senators (so far) have said THEY will object.
If at LEAST one Senator, and one Representative object, they MUST set aside the electoral college vote, adjorn the joint session, withdraw to their individual chambers, and have TWO HOURS to detirmine who is POTUS.
IMHO, once this happens, it is game over for Biden. US, outside in numbers never seen before, will force McConnell to back down.
He will be in the same pickle he was in in the shampeachment. He SO WANTED to have his caucus vote to convict, but KNEW he couldn’t, with us watching.
And so he had to play it straight. Same pickle, different details.
Anyway, getting tired.
Just be in DC, on Jan 6th. and see what happens.
Booked a room in DC about 2 miles from the capitol a couple of days ago for $90. night + $30 bucks for parking. Reserved for the 5th + 6th, close to the Red Line train.
I suspect the hotels in the area will be packed.
Absolutely the last thing McConnell wants is his RHINO team exposed voting for Biden. He has to get it unanimous or it all falls apart.
I bet the pressure on Tommy Tuberville is enormous. May God be with him.
This…!
Amen.
You are incorrect. The two hour debate is NOT to determine who is POTUS. It is to determine if an objection to a given state’s electoral votes is defeated (votes stand) or upheld (votes are rejected). And in that scenario, if the two Houses disagree about whether to uphold an objection, then the objection FAILS and the original, certified electoral votes stand.
So game that out. You get an objection on record, fine. The Houses split and have their two hour debate. The majority (D) House votes to defeat the objection. It doesn’t matter what the Senate votes at all, though I would expect the Senate to also defeat the objection with the usual Decepticons lining up to say, “We must respect the will of the voters and the integrity of our electoral processes and not indulge in conspiracy theories about stolen elections,” blah blah blah.
Objection defeated. Electoral votes stand. 306-232, Biden. Game over.
You’re correct in the process, but here’s the rub: by FORCING the decepticons to go on the record against Trump, it will be the death knell of the Republican Party–and McConnell knows that.
There will be millions of people outside the capitol and they will NOT be happy if Xiden is given the green light by the Republicans. It is a nightmare scenario for McConnell.
McConnell “knows” no such thing. He & the GOPe believe, perhaps not without some validity, that Trump is a storm to be survived much as the Tea Party was. The GOPe will immediately revert to the same playbook that was used in the Obama years – “Vote for us to stop the Democrats!” – and place conservative voters into that wretched, terrible, lesser-of-two-evils box.
And McConnell truly does not care whether he’s in the majority or minority; in many ways he’s happier in minority. He & the GOPe continue to sell out America either way, And they will plot & scheme to get one of theirs into the big chair in 2024, just as they had plotted & schemed to get Jeb in for 2016, only for Trump to ruin their scheme.
While McConnell may WANT things to go back to the way it used to be, methinks things may not go back the way he expects them to–especially if Republican Senators are FORCED to make an up or down vote on Trump.
I don’t doubt that the turtle may be betting on the scenario you outline, but I’d also bet he’s sweating a bit.
Yes, the Dutchman is wrong in his analysis. If both houses disagree the electors presented by the governor stand.
There is however a potential out which is that the election code states the electors must be elected by state laws enacted prior to the election. There is currently a debate as to if third parties in several states transgressed state laws, further no one can argue that massive fraud reflects state laws.
Thank you – very helpful summary 🙂 Wish I had the means to be in DC 🙁
He said it in a tweet which was later taken down. It is the day that Congress votes to accept the electors, so I presumed he wants large numbers of supporters there to pressure Congress to do the right thing.
Yes, it happens at 1 pm January 6th. Be at the Capital Building.
If we have enough people driving in on that day, not only will the mall be FULL, but the I-495 beltway will be a traffic jam.
That would be a very great sign.
That would be a sign that D.C. is literally under siege.
I am hoping it will be the first traffic jam I will enjoy.
I am hoping to have to park on the interstate.
Please God may it happen.
Please God may the people understand that this must be the moment they TAKE their freedom.
One thing does not preclude the other. And, why are there not “sit-ins” in the errant legislatures…
And did he say it was going to be “WILD” simply because he wants us there or does he actually have a wild plan?
He is not pleading. He has requested our support. He has asked us to come and celebrate with him, because on January 6 it will be over, and President Trump will also be President-Elect Trump.
Please God that it is a celebration and not the beginning of the civil war.
We may not be able to stop what we did not start. But we can finish it.
Celebration is fine, but we should already be confirmed in our victory before we show up in D.C. A million-man mob will not change anyone’s plans, least of all politicians who have spent their entire careers playing political hard ball.
He wants us there to demonstrate the Court of Public Opinion, to all the wavery, uncertain types. You can’t use “authoritative, decisive force” unless Public Opinion is on your side, AND YOU CAN EASILY PROVE IT.
Unless there is quiet authorative decisive force, with a willingness to spill blood….
Yup!
Having millions of Patriots in the streets in D.C. on the 6th will bring moral support, but it won’t change anyone’s mind in the U.S. legislature. Many of these people may be armed, and without leadership on the ground, and inevitably things will devolve into mob rule. People may be hurt and killed. Patriots to be useful should be organizing themselves in small neighborhoods for local defense forces with leaders they know and trust.
Donald Trump would do better to use his considerable Presidential power to immediately seize Dominion machines and mail-in ballots directly for analysis. If he needs to use EO#13848, then do so, as time is a-waisting. Incontrovertible proof is what he needs to show the American people for co-ordinated DNC fraud and foreign involvement.
Could not agree more with your thinking. It’s time for US to show up on the 6th in DC. President Trump asked US to go to DC. After all he has sacrificed and done for Our Country it is our duty to respond .
It is a serious moment in our history.
January 6th will very likely be in the history books, and YOU — everyone who is reading this website — can be part of that history.
Wasn’t (isn’t) Byrne a CIA asset?
I am reminded of when byrnes went public, before.
Saying he had been an FBI CI, for years, and was asked to insert the russian gal into R campaigns.
At the time, there was speculation here, that he was a disinfo guy.
Either hevis, or he’s an idiot. Take his name off the WH list, no more meetings for YOU!
Beyond that, this is beltway chatter, media spin, and distraction.
I don’t CARE.
I recall he said he was asked to set up Hillary for a bribe and once accepted Obama intended to use it to manipulate her when she was POTUS. So of course Biden is Obama’s third term
He said in an interview a couple of weeks ago that it was his jet that the forensic team used to fly up to the Michigan investigation.
Also amid all of this, Jenna Ellis has tweeted several times tonight that employing the Insurrection Act to seize voting machines would be unconstitutional, which has a lot of folks interpreting her tone as concessionary.
Do we really know at this point that all of these counselors and advisors in President Trump’s ear really have his back? Or is it very possible that some of them see more personal benefit to cutting and running, and are ready to bail, and ready to advise our President to bail?
I don’t know who to trust anymore. Does President Trump know who among his counsel HE can trust?
That only one state, WI, allowed a forensic exam of a machine is outlandish.
How can democracy thrive w/out sunlight. A damn machine that is only supposed to count tabulate votes and they won’t turn them over?
Banana Republic.
I thought Atrim County was in Michigan, but could be wrong,…
In order to pull this off, ALL the officials in key positions, had to be “in” on it.
Look at Maracopa County board voting to REFUSE a subpoena from the legislature.
Legislature has legal AND Constitutional authority, and County board has NO authority.
But, we don’t NEED the stinkin machines,….we have a MOUNTAIN of evidence, AND our own liein eyes.
The only comfort I get, is in noticing how HARD the enemy is working, to block the release of this info.
Even in Atrim County, the Judge allowed the release of the report, but with the logs redacted.
Without thevlogs, detractors can continue to say “Wheres the PROOF”.
Sorry, you’re right. MI.
Obviously we live in neither a democracy nor a constitutional republic.
Those are just slogans at this point.
Slogans in which we have believed.
Just like we believed our votes were being counted.
And now we are AMAZED that they are refusing to let anyone look at the voting machines.
Our amazement shows how deluded we still are.
Obviously, these officials are part of the fraud.
Do they fear arrest?
Of course not.
The FBI is on their side.
The FBI is on their side.
And have been for quite a while.
Stealing an election is also unconstitutional.
The Constitution is a dead letter and I don’t feel so good myself.
Stealing votes is unconstitutional.
Stealing votes is also on video, and the FBI does nothing.
The Constitution is merely words on paper.
It is appalling.
Most lawyers are extremely risk-averse.
We are all on edge. Bottom line is that our President Trump will do things on his schedule, not ours. We just have to sit and hold our armchairs tightly and hope for the best. I will support whatever he decides as he’s done the right thing for the country for the most part so far. Still, I feel like the old joke of two buzzards waiting……
Plan on getting OUT of your armchair, and TO DC, for Jan 6th.
I hear its gonna be WILD!
A celebration of Trumps win, because on Dec 23 the tide will change and Biden will be forced to prove he won, and he can’t do that. Biden will will run out of time, and if those 7 states have not supplied valid, fraud free electors then the vote will go to Trump. President Trump knows that it all over but the crying for Biden, the Dems, and the CCP.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9077869/Feds-looking-making-legal-request-Rudy-Giulianis-emails.html
FTA “Sources tell the network prosecutors for the Southern District of New York have spoken about getting access to his electronic communications.
New York prosecutors need the approval of Washington before they can move forward with obtaining a search warrant for information potentially protected by attorney-client privilege.
It is not known whether Bill Barr’s Justice Department has granted that approval.
Giuliani has reportedly been under investigation by federal prosecutors in New York over his work in Ukraine, which became the heart of Trump’s impeachment.”
The Southern District of New York is on a witch hunt and it needs to stop! Some how these Democrat leftist attorneys in NYC need to be all fired! This is a political investigation of President Trump but none of Joe Biden or Hunter Biden? This is just infuriating, white hot anger!
Well, Trump could fire them tonight if he wanted.
No he can’t.
We are now a country that has political prisoners.
Assange.
Snowden.
Giuliani and Trump are next.
Then YOU.
Martin Niemoller’s famous quote comes to mind.
McConnell tolerated Trump while he had to. He no longer has to. Simple as that.
Bull roar. You have it backwards.
this makes me think could Byrne be a plant to cause division in the media??
You think wrong.
He has spend tons of his own money (he has a lot) trying to help with the data analysis to prove the steal and has given this info to Sidney and others. He thinks he’ll be in D.C for maybe 2 more months working on this and said although he didn’t vote for Trump (or Biden) he has come to really appreciate Trump and realizes he is way different from who the media described.
I believe him He has his own money and a CEO mentality like Trump.
Byrne has been helping Sidney with the numbers on this election. He may be a patriot, more than a politician.
I listened to Patrick Byrne’s interview with Tracy Beanz and wonder why POTUS tolerated these lawyers who apparently aren’t always even polite to him. Is he so beaten up that it’s become hard to defend himself? I can understand that after what they’ve done to him and his family. Unfortunately we have a country at stake because I don’t think we’ll end up a sovereign nation if Biden gets in.
Meanwhile Byrne kept saying that anyone who doesn’t recognize that there was tons of voter fraud is nuts. Hello, Mr Barr???
My heart breaks for our wonderful POTUS and I can’t blame him if he wants out. I feel like we’re hanging on a thread.
To answer your question. Trump is one tough SOB. He has lived his entire life in conflict. He is not at all ovearly influenced by hostile lawyers talling him conflicting viewpoints. This is in part-and-and-parcel who DJT really is. What he braings to the table is the skills of a negotiator, a deal maker—he is not intimitated by forceful comments that disagree with him. What he’s looking for are avenues of movement that will allow him to move in ways that will let him to achieve his goals. Never, ever, underestimate a man like that. If you do, he’ll hand you your head.
You state some of the reasons i voted for Trump. But I have become perplexed at some things and mainly it’s the various personnel issues. For instance why isn’t Wray fired? I’ve seen comments that Wray is still there due to bad advice from the lawyers. I don’t know the truth but it was a shock to hear from Byrne that Trump was putting up with some nasty behavior from subordinates. Byrne thought Trump was too nice – something that surprised Byrne (according to Byrne).
I know two people who know people who encountered Trump in his previous life and their stories confirm what you say – he’s tough and gets his way. But as difficult as the real estate development world can be…DC has got to be so much worse partly because logic is left behind. At least in business there is simple profit motive – in DC I think it’s way more complex.
same motive, follow the money.
The noise out there is deafening, with experts all touting sure paths to victory that reveal a modicum of knowledge of how the procedure goes, sprinkled with hopes for how we want the outcome to be revealed. While the state legislators have to submit a slate of electors, any conflict will be resolved by Congress and the bad news is that without both bodies being in agreement, it’s likely that the Biden slate of electors will be chosen by the House, leaving the best hope at the moment being the courts, as depressing as that thought is.
In the meantime, we can only watch and wait and see how all the moves, public and hidden, play out through year end. It could still be an unsettling time.
Pray.
I don’t see that Trump has leverage. He doesn’t use blackmail the way Obama did.
I say do it the unusual way. Unless he holds a public presser and demonstrates to the nation the cheating machines, nothing will change with the way the courts AND the pols handle this. NOthing.
Baloney. Biden’s electors in seven swing states will not make it to the house. So much negativity here. You people are not up to speed. Pence can refuse fraudulent electors, and then it is over.
Do you really think Mike Pence will do that.. You expect Mike Pence to rock the boat? and remember Mike Pence brother is in congress…
The Vice President does not have the discretion to unilaterally refuse electoral college votes. He has very little if any real power to do anything but announce the vote counts.
Biden-Pence.
Why is anyone appearing on the never Trumper Newsmax with Sean spicer who said this President lost a fair election ?
Marshall law and the insurrection act are completely different and if anyone thinks the path for the truth with the judicial system is gonna work better think twice.
the Courts are not going to save us and there are many paths without them
it will happen in the legislature
people need to look up the Electoral Count Act of 1887
its being called the Pence / Raiklin path
https://nationalfile.com/law-prohibits-pence-from-accepting-electoral-votes-from-fraudulently-certified-states-constitutional-lawyer/
Law Prohibits Pence From Accepting Electoral Votes From Fraudulently Certified States – Constitutional Lawyer via @nationalfile https://nationalfile.com/law-prohibits-pence-from-accepting-electoral-votes-from-fraudulently-certified-states-constitutional-lawyer/…
everyone seems to forget we have dueling electors in the electoral college
finally found the link I wanted to share
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/did-trump-just-win-electoral-count-act-of-1887/
In a case of dueling electors, Pence decides either to accept the alternates or deny all electoral votes. If pence accepts the alternate electors, Trump wins.
Or, if Pence does except any electors from the seven fraudulent states, Trump still wins 232 to 227 before it even gets to the house. Yeeha.
oops, does not except
I don’t know what the over and under is for Pence to pull such a stunt, but I do KNOW he is a company man (establishment Republican). Pence won’t go out on THAT limb.
Exactemundo, in the everlasting words of the Fonse.
The one thing you forgot to mention Sundance was Flynn and Powell have been called back to private meetings with POTUS twice since that big Friday blowout. Seems he has plenty to discuss with them…
How do we know how private those meetings were?
I understand Rudy doesn’t want to burn the bridge ….meaning the swamp creatures coming on board….But golly how long do we give it. There has to be a timeline. They …state legislator…courts look very unreliable. President Trump would like to get them over to his side to do the right thing but JMO it is going to be an all out battle no matter if the inside or outside is the way he goes. It would seem if PT is forced to implement the IA that has to be very well planned and the Milley’s have to be replaced. We are in for a “wild” ride and must be prepared to make as much noise as they do.
Seems to me seeing all this play out, one phone call from the man himself, Trump, could end it. Is he using this to any advantage by letting it play out? Ms. Powell was there again – 3/4 nights. Is there an optic play Trump is using as he usually does? Whipping the media up and letting it play out? Look over here, while over there is the real game? Seems to me that has always been the play and this is no different. I agree with the analysis, but is that the only thing really going on? I don’t think so…much of what is going on behind the scenes hasn’t been revealed and he looks awfully cool and calm.
That’s because looking cool and calm is part of his public persona and is an essential part of the game he’s practiced all his life.
See above. It is over on the Dec 23. Trump wins.
“Everyone wants the best possible outcome.”
Well, except for Bitch McConnell and all of his RINOs. They want Trump gone.
Sundance, you need to understand that while good, Rudy is old. He doesn’t understand computers or what it means that 68% of scanned votes ended up in adjudication. (Something that has never happened before). Because Rudy doesn’t understand, he runs back to what he knows, technical points of law about observers being blocked and unconstitutional changes to state electoral law regarding unsolicited mail in ballots. But his approach is pointless now. The SCOTUS has made it very clear that they will not do their duty.
This is where Sidney’s approach is better. She is highlighting the electoral fraud facilitated by the electronic voting systems. It’s solid. It’s real. And the evidence is already in the public domain.
Rudy can argue his technicalities and the judges can kick out his cases using their coward’s technicalities. And then it’s over.
But if judges, governors or legislators refuse to acknowledge Sidney’s evidence of electronic electoral fraud, it’s not over, and the evidence never goes away.
Clear evidence that Sidney was right: Michigan refusal to comply with forensic audit of Dominion machines in any county except the one (Antrim) where they were caught by honest polling workers.
Rudy’s truth is just as hard and good as Sidney’s; she has just vacuumed up all of it, being thorough.
It’s really simple: All the normal vote fraud was overwhelmed by Trump votes, so they criminally stopped the counting (in the critical states), shoved in millions of fake votes for Biden, and biased the machines to keep Biden in the lead they stole. All you have to do is look at it, which is why the enemy won’t look at it.
Going through the courts isn’t working, so why are we still doing it.
I agree. Same for Congress. If you believe the Swamp will drain the Swamp, why have you ever been on the Trump Train? There are legal ways to stop Beijing Biden, and the President doesn’t need the approval of his enemies for them.
It is NOT a swamp. I love our Bayous and Swamps here in the south. Lets just call it what it really is… a SEWER.
An abode of hell,
Dante’s Inferno…
Why? History.
This is historic and all Constitutional and political processes must be played out. Only when all normal avenues have played out without success must “politics by other means” kick in.
Coordination is obviously lacking. Egos are in the way. Tough to be President and fight election battles at the same time. Good that there are two fronts fighting. Not good they are attacking each other when coordinated attacks on the enemy would be better. Rudy’s strategy to convince state legislators to act good. Eggs in one basket not good. Linwood and Byrne too vocal and divisive. Sidney steady as she goes. Deep State unified. It’s the fourth quarter with still time to win. The quarterback has to take control, rally the team and score the game winning touchdown for four more years. Victory does not need to be pretty as long as the scoreboard spells victory. Let’s win!
During the entire Trump presidency, his gut feeling was right and his GOPe advisors have tried everything to talk him out of things.
“Let Trump be Trump” only works if these bad elements aren’t in his way. Because they’re the greatest roadblock to Trump being Trump.
The Russia hoax coup plotters are not in prison. The covid hoax coup plotters have destroyed the economy. Trump is not a lawyer or a doctor, and it would seem that these “experts” manage to thwart his initial good instincts (e.g. the glorious firing of Comey, e.g. hydroxychloroquine and open up the country in March 2020).
I also long for the days when quarterbacks called their own plays. When you are in the heat of the battle you know your opposition’s strengths and weaknesses better and know who is motivated enough to get to the goal line.
The person who appears to be doing the greatest disservice and act of foolish disloyalty here would be Patrick Byrne himself.
Is this guy for real?
Byrne is an enigma. On one hand he appears to be promoting division, while on another hand he could be playing the showman in order to keep whats going on in the background hidden from view while he has all of the attention. Perhaps that is his job.
Regardless, time is critical, and every moment cannot go to waste, nor can every move be telegraphed. Sidney, Wood, and the General have a different tactical battle than team Trump, but I also believe they are unified in their goal for a strategic victory.
The enemy must always be kept off balance.
“All warfare is based on deception. Hey, what’s that behind you?”
– Sun Tzu’s Great Nephew, Moon Yoo Tzu
Byrne is a very smart, intelligent and honest person, and integral to the team. He brings critical information and advice to the team. That should be his role. He is not a good spokesperson for the team, in my opinion. He says what needs to be said within the team but what is said in the locker room sometimes need to be kept in the locker room.
Agree Joe…..like trump he thinks like a CEO not a politician. Used to cutting thru baloney to reach goals. I for one appreciate his take on the present situation.
I cannot imagine what possibly could be “going on in the background” at this point. Seems like more hopium to string us out until too late.
FINALLY! I’ve been scrolling this convo forever and finally found a point I think is right on with my friend here ‘Just Wondering.’
Trump is 10 steps ahead. Did you notice the smiles all over? For all we know, they all were just enjoying dinner and having a laugh. Deception is key.
When in 4 years has The President been so quiet and off camera?
I think like mentioned above, plane and simple, Pence declines the votes.
Mitch may be a majority leader elected by his fellow senators, VP Pence is the F-ing President of the Senate!
I think it would be “appropriate” (hint-hint, nudge-nudge…) if there were 5 or 6, or 10, million Trump voters in Washington, just to grease the wheels of justice.
…and NOT empty handed. That’ll “grease” some wheels!!
I think this is the elegant and simple solution. Pence will reject electors from fraudulent elections, or choose the alternate slate, or reject them all. Thus the target date of January 6, when he officially becomes President elect. Or does he simply continue with the title of President?
No need of martial law.
There will be, I think, some special forces military action to snuff out the inevitable Antifa riots. That action should be quick and effective.
Also, President Trump does have leverage over the turtle because the turtle cannot let his Republicans be exposed as voting against Trump.
They are caught, as they can easily hear a huge crowd of Deplorables chanting Fight for Trump and Stop the Steal.
I need to pack ear plugs!
The evil ones in Washington DC are fighting President Trump because he is getting too close to exposing them for their corruption. Follow the money – it is all about control and money with these corrupt people. Most of the media are just a bunch of idiots who live each day to fill the air with lies! I thank President Trump for all he has done to bring back patriotism to this country!
Nothing would please the left more than to fracture and demoralize the MAGA movement by sowing seeds of division and discord among Trump’s most ferocious warriors and his most committed supporters. Don’t let them have it! Eye on the prize.
Is anyone factoring in the Senate almost unanimously approving that horrendous $2.4T attrocity? It fits the criminal Senate MO that they would leverage not vetoing a huge taxpayer money steal as a payback for letting Mr. Trump stay in office.
Then, everyone is happy, except the tax payers.
The gop doesn’t have it within their power to keep him in office.
Just read an interesting article in National File re: a constitutional lawyer named Ivan Raiklin. He claims vp Pence cannot accept electoral votes from states that held fraudulently certified elections.
But who decides the election was fraudulent when the legislature and those in charge say it wasn’t?
…Either the court(s) or the people…the Trump people, to be precise. Meanwhile, Pence can’t accept electoral votes, if he doesn’t know whether they are fraudulent or not.
Of course, he DOES know, as do we all.
A Uniparty roll call does not favor POTUS. If he loses the after a roll call that cements Biden’s steal. Romney, Sasse, Toomey, Murkowki, Collins, Graham and other RINOs won’t be on POTUS side. Meadows knows that so if the reports are true would explain his encouraging POTUS to concede.
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Supreme court is a long shot with a compromised CJ Roberts.
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DNI report of foreign interference still won’t help towards a favorable outcome in congress with so many uniparty members and a media yelling Russia. Don’t foresee any timely meaningful action from FBI or DOJ based on reports of foreign interference.
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Rudy distanced his legal efforts on POTUS behalf & POTUS, but I didn’t hear him push back on Powell, Flynn and Wood’s direction/advice. Powell was again reported to have met with POTUS tonight. If true you have to wonder why POTUS prefers face to face meetings with Sidney. While he’s using phone and or email to communicate with Rudy, Jenna and Boris.
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I think you of all people should know Trump’s base is not fractured and is going to act if Biden steals. The base is not going back to sleep, accepting a Biden administration, waiting for 2022 and 2024. A 4 year Red Pill combined with no justice is going to go hot. People feel there lives and the lives of the children are at stake so they will act.
So we have this covered, any way it goes. You’ve earned your pay for this month.
If Meadows is encouraging Trump to concede, then he is doing an injustice to Trump and this country. McConnell and his ilk MUST be forced to go on RECORD opposing Trump.
Exposure of Republicans as the cowards and traitors they are is a must if Xiden is allowed to steal this election.
https://www.ntd.com/this-countrys-fabric-is-being-torn-apart-exclusive-interview-with-l-lin-wood_543685.html
Good hour-long interview with Lin Wood who talks about Trump, the election, and even the young man who died in that fiery crash in GA. He says at the end of the day, we’d best be praying because, in the end, God is the only one who can restore this nation.
Thanks. Lots of good comments like that one.
I’m a little concerned that somehow Rudy is not giving Sidney Powell a full 100% thumbs up. It irritated me that she was apparently removed from Rudy’s team and now Rudy is telling Trump to concede and not play hard ball.
I’ve always been a fan a Rudy’s, but if he goes down this path, he needs to be hauled off to Gitmo like the rest of them. There is no compromise with the left.
Powell was never on Rudy’s team. She works independently.
Yet they are both on Trump’s team, and both quite successful, in upholding the truth.
The only uncertainty that matters, in the end, is Public Opinion. And judging just from the comments here today, I’d say we have that. We know; we all know.
I’m really pretty sure they are on the same team. You shouldn’t worry about that (and don’t listen to the media…I thought we had been all over that point already).
Sidney was not removed from Rudy’s team. I have never heard Rudy saying anything about conceding.
Knowing that Trump is well versed with “The Art of War”, I would say that he’s employing the tactics of “…appear weak when you are strong”.
The reason he’s asked us to be in D.C. on the 6th, IMHO, is to back up Pence’s refusal to accept the contested states Electors. I could easily see a million people in D.C. that day. And THAT would be a true show of power!
I feel in my bones the only way forward is via SCOTUS, once the PA vote is declared illegal (because the State executive order rules on mail ins and absentees were illegal), that’s not enough, where does it go then? Will the PA State Supreme act? Not a chance……. if the PA Supremes won’t act, how can SCOTUS avoid acting?
If the MSM think they can divide President Trump’s support they are terrible at reading the public mood.
If anything I think the support is growing harder everyday. The more information that comes out the stronger the support. There is no way there will be any division irrespective of what NYT and WP say or do.
Some are saying the Courts are a lost cause. While I can understand this point of view, the case put to SCOTUS is extremely important. If SCOTUS were doing their job properly they would not think twice about taking it. Their key job is to defend the Constitution and this case is, in my view, a simple case of up holding the Constitution. It also will be the first time Team Trump are able to layout all the detail they have on the fraud that occurred. If successful for PA, I believe the ruling will apply to the other key battleground states.
But Roberts will obviously understand all this so he will under pressure not to take the case, thereby ignoring the oath he took when appointed.
It is fairly obvious that the President is not relying on SCOTUS and is planning for all possible options. So I think it is a major positive he has two teams taking different lines of attack in their thinking.
I’m not much of a military historian, but I know there are many examples of wars where top leaders on a given team didn’t always see eye-to-eye. One person might go with a particular tactic in a particular battle, all the while being second-guessed by others. Later, another person may do something entirely different in another battle, with mixed support for his strategy. But assuming everyone really IS on the same team, and has the same ultimate goal in mind, then the end result of all these battles — even though there was a lot of internal conflict as it played out — will be that THE WAR IS WON.
His “fractured” base? Nah.
It’s tighter today than at any point in the last 4 years.
As usual, Sundance tells it like it is.
I hope EVERYONE here recognizes what both PDJT and Sundance have told you. It is important to re-elect the two GOP Georgian senators. To keep the federal government from being totally controlled by the globalist/Dems as well as help PDJT’s campaign when it is time to keep the Senate from certifying the electoral college votes on January 6th.
ANYONE who tells you differently is NOT serving the country NOR PDJT.
There’s a lot of second guessing about who’s still with Trump, who’s flipped etc. For me, it’s becoming clearer by the minute, anyone still standing by Trump, hasn’t yet been bought/corrupted, everyone else has, including Barr, John Roberts etc.
That’s why something seemingly so clear cut, so obvious, is proving so difficult to litigate.
We are wasting our time trying to do the right thing by fighting this in the courts, or putting our trust in the likes of Barr, Wray etc. Conventional process no longer exists.
Our case is rightous and just but the old rules no longer matter, digital media has changed everything.
No one has mentioned that GA may rescind their electoral college votes:
https://twitter.com/NvrRyan/status/1340875015063912450
I think Rudy hopes his hearing in AZ will convince their legislators to do the same,
As many have said, we can’t count on the courts or the GOP senate on Jan 6 when someone from the House challenges one of these states electors.
My take is Rudy is going after the state legislators. PA will be next on his travel itinerary
That is a pretty reassuring tweet thread. Lots of “vote this monstrosity down”, by actual representatives. The monstrosity being the 2.5 trillion “aid” bill. (The US Congress: A Finger in Every Pie — AFEP, American Federation of Elite People)
Kind of like seeing millions of Trump voters in Washington on January 6th would be MOST reassuring.
I downloaded the Georgia Final Report.
Anyone who believes that President Trump is somehow surprised by all of this, has not thought this through, and has some meeting where bedlam erupts between two opposing camps has not been paying attention. Sun Tzu says that one should project disruption within one’s advance to appear weak when he is, in fact, strong.
I believe The Old Man grasps this, has shown this on a repeated basis to China et al for a remarkable number of years, and is onto something that will turn this to his advantage.
The demoncrats have had 20 years of practice making narrative. Truth is all that Trump has, lets all pray that that TRUTH will win. eventually.
A general cannot disregard an order from the POTUS. Take the machines, we are at war. To defend and protect the constitution, against all enemies, foreign or domestic.
Trump can take whichever path he chooses. Results are all that matter. In taking this path Trump surely understands Byrne is a fraud and a deep state plant with exceptionally questionable questionable motive. Also, why the F is Patrick Byrne in the decision nix anyway? Who put him there?.
Consider this.
If Patrick Byrne is telling the truth and Cipollone IS leaking “Martial Law” LIES to the press while simultaneously trying to convince DJT to concede, the DJT has a much bigger problem than appearing to have a DIVIDED. administration.
Would DJT be better served if Byrne remained silent, allowing the Never Trump media to paint the President as some sort of deranged dictator?
Or would DJT be better served by an ally coming forward to REFUTE that narrative and replace it with a picture of a President who STILL has a chance to win but is beleaguered by Swamp Creatures STILL resisting him?
Let’s not over think this. Apply Occam’s razor.
I am all fine with talking different approaches to nuance different groups. I just have a problem with the people trying to get POTUS to concede.
It makes me wonder just how much action Cippollone and his crew have talked POTUS out of. Antifa and BLM should have been HANDLED this summer if it meant firing Esper and Milley then to bring about the insurrection act. Bush used it to stop the LA riots. There would have been nothing radical about it. POTUS would have had plenty of public support from citizens being forced to social distance and shelter in place while the communist goons ignored all such orders by their Democrat Governors.
In my opinion, we are seeing the ramifications of doing nothing about that now with the cowardice of SCOTUS and politicians who are afraid of these Leftist violent threats. They have no reason to believe anything will be done about these people if they come for them.
Others like Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser who was recently pardoned for being lied to the FBI, have made adjacent calls for Trump to impose martial law.
There, fixed that.
The larger goal by DC media is to isolate President Trump by fracturing his base of support.
Those in the media are trying to divert attention from the obvious split in the House between the AOC element and Queen Nanzi.
Importantly, EO 13848 and the Insurrection Act are 2 very different enforcement measures.
The media is attempting to conflate the 2 (looking at you Maggie!).
There is very likely elements of the EO being utilized. DNI Ratcliffe assessment and coming report, intelligence gathering on the 2020 election and live technical observations of the computer steal.
Don’t let the media confuse you, we are smarter then that.?