In a rather disconcerting sequence of events many of the west coast forest fires are now being attributed to intentional arson. One of the key aspects to the unnatural outbreak of fires is the proximity to homes and well established neighborhoods in California, Washington State and Oregon.
A twitter account by Katie Daviscourt has been tracking some of the fires and a recent series of events from the area(s) [SEE HERE]. The ongoing thread is updated with several points of evidence where people have been caught, captured or filmed in the act of lighting fires. There is some speculation, and some evidence, that some of these fires may have been ignited by Antifa activists as a method of further creating crisis in the region.
The FBI is saying there is no evidence Antifa or Joe Biden’s far-left base of support are behind the fires. However, given the internal dynamic within the FBI; and accepting the FBI carries a political agenda; and considering the facts on the ground do not support the denials; the downplaying of motive by the FBI is not very reassuring.
A statement by federal law enforcement to Law Enforcement Today is troubling and points to several ongoing investigations into these fires:
LawEnforcementToday – […] A federal law enforcement source shared with Law Enforcement Today that the feds are looking into whether some of the cases are linked together… and warn there could be more “attacks”.
“We are reacting to a coordinated series of attempts to start fires anywhere and everywhere in Oregon. Public and Private lands, incorporated and unincorporated areas.
By all indications so far in the preliminary stages of these investigations there is a coordinated effort on the part of these individuals to start fires in areas that are the least protected and most vulnerable then slowing working their way into more populated areas and neighborhoods.
Please take this information as an advisory for you own account and welfare and please act in good faith with due diligence to plan accordingly for your own safety and the well being of your community.” (read more)
Arson in Oregon. https://t.co/vPhz355VBt
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 12, 2020
https://twitter.com/nehdah/status/1304202802181230592
MSM – […] In Oregon’s Clackamas and Marion counties south of Portland, smoke was so thick that it was difficult to see more than 10 feet ahead Saturday morning.
Carolee Brown told CNN she has relocated twice this week because of evacuation orders. She’s been losing sleep, constantly monitoring her home’s security camera online to see if it’s still standing. As of Saturday morning, it was.
“It’s unreal. You can’t really fathom what is going on,” she told CNN in Marion County. “You take what you think (you should), and you just get out.”
While Oregon’s death toll was at least six on Saturday, the state is preparing for a “mass fatality incident” based on how many structures have been charred, Oregon Emergency Management Director Andrew Phelps said Friday.
Already, dozens are missing, the state’s governor said, mostly across Jackson, Lane and Marion counties in western Oregon. (read more)
If the FBI says it wasn’t antifa, you can know for a fact almost if not all of the wildfire arson cases were committed by antifa.
The FBI is corrupt from the lowest level clerk up to the Wray. Never forget that not only are/were they actively involved in trying to remove a sitting president, they routinely have said that terrorist attacks have an unknown motive when the perp is on film behind them yelling he did it for allah.
Lulu- right the hell on! Love it when the scumbag FBI says don’t trust anyone else’s information because they are the “trusted sources”.
It is so obvious that the BIDENTIFA is now spreading out to create maximum mayhem and chaos.
The entire DemonRat machine is all in on this. This is how they celebrate 9/11 with all out domestic terror.
Most Honorable Elder Sensei Seneca…#BIDENTIFA 😉 I’m borrowing this to replace #BLAMTIFA, as my new favorite.
TY
Dear God these bloodbags are EVIL! I was telling my houseguest last night that I suspected those fires were being set, and I was sure if it was arson, it would be antifa slugs doing it.
And then I remembered mention a few years back about a regular theme in “inspire” magazine (isis handbook) about wannabe jihadis being instructed to commit arson as much as possible. (Not only to kill ‘infidels’, but to exhaust municipal resources).
Anyone seen brennan lately?
I dunno. The federal law enforcement source who said “act in good faith with due diligence to plan accordingly for your own safety and the well being …” sounds like pure Chris Wray
What does that even mean?
Sounds a lot like “materials that have the capacity to become excited when introduced to heat or energy”
Within 24 hours of the Las Vegas concert slaughter, ISIS took credit, and the FBI said it wasn’t ISIS. And the American people didn’t know who to believe.
Well, they should have believed the FBI because FBI is Amer …
… no – wait …
its a job –
anyone wanting money – does what the Director wants.
hence if the TOP is corrupt the bottom follows or is at least bitterly silent.
THE TOP MUST BE CLEANED – Look at the cover up that Sundance has already pointed out!
https://4thamendmentrestored.com/
(CTH articles compiledd and promoted to inform – to share with strangers we meet to bring them here)
Lulu,
True. I’ve had the full weight of our crooked DOJ descend upon me and mine.
Long story. No self pity here.
America is too young to die! Thanks for doing your part to keep her alive.
???
If (fib) they (supposedly) quickly know its not chaos makers (blmarxists, anti-antifa (profacists))
that have been ‘peacefully protesting’ (actual illegal rioting and harming people and property)…for days, weeks, months unabated by their local mis-leaders…
…then whom did they (fib) say that they are?
(environmentalists wanting more money – selfishly to them – wasted on climate change,
so. to mis-help that to happen,
they become arsonists…a form of facism, unsatisifying desire to controlling property and otherwise free people. ? )
Don’t take any wooden nickels. (don’t believe their blames, nor their solution$)
“prove all things,
hold fast to that which is good. ”
Thess 5:21
The people setting Portland and other cities on fire for the last 100 days for the world to see would never set the rest of the state on fire.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is conspiracy theorist. No base for such accusation.
People who get paid to destroy everything and set things on fire would never set things on fire.
I don’t believe the FBI for a second but I do believe the people controlling Antifa and BLM behind the scenes know that if the mob wanders too deep into suburbia or damages the sacred forest they lose the crowd, even in a F@cked up place like Portland or Seattle. So I do wonder if BLM or Antifa really has anything to do with these fires. I also believe that the people running the mobs think they control them and I don’t think they can so it might be a case of mob out of control. Just something to chew on.
Bonney Lake, Sumner and Puyallup WA where Jeffrey Mcord, proven Antifa member, was setting fires ARE suburbia!
They are also Republican areas in WA…as well as Graham and Buckley WA where Katie also has reports of arson.
“… if the mob wanders too deep into suburbia …
yeah, about that:
theyve been clearing the land for “invasion”
standing globalist armies
Er,…um,..they were doing it to help the,ENVIRONMENT??
UM, not sure exactly HOW, but give lawfare,a day or two to turn logic into a pretzal, and we’ll show you, conclusively how,….THIS IS ALL TRUMPS FAULT!
They globalists can bring it. I’d rather go down in a blaze of glory, fighting to defend my country, than see continue the havoc and destruction of these terrorists.
They are burning out the “red’ sections of these states, and yes they have cleared out a great many people. Possible agendas are UN Agenda 21 whose maps show all of these areas designated as uninhabited.
Yes, it is much easier to invade depopulated areas, so perhaps Nancy has a thought to ask the UN and China to help dethrone Trump if he wins? Would have never thought that possible once, now I see it as fifty-fifty.
If you have ever traveled to China, after that whenever you drive anywhere outside the urban areas of the US and see the open fields and forests and the beautiful air, I suspect that to Chinese eyes, it looks a lot like “undeveloped ” resources ripe for the taking. Especially given that China has something like twenty plus percent of the world’s population but less than ten percent of the world’s arable land.
We have been blessed with so much. The Permian Basin (energy independent forever ), the Central Valley, rivers and the Great Lakes , the Great plains, (food independent forever if we are good stewards). Our Constitution and our Western heritage. We should be grateful. Our gratitude should show itself in our willingness to fight and preserve all of this for our children and grandchildren.
YES!
Joe Biden and Gaven Newsom and Jay Inslee are all saying the same thing – climate change
fires killing people – is a climate change conversation to them.
Hillary and Obama tweeted the same thing.
These people can go to Hell.
They have been given the word “Climate change”! Now watch media parroting it this whole week!
Yes, my climate has definitely changed from bright and sunny to smoky and low visibility and this is NOT our planet reacting to global warming. These are acts of terrorism plain and simple. My BS detector regarding comments by Obama, Hillary and the west coast governors and the news media is registering off the charts right now!
So are their ? ? popping and alcoholism..?????
They have been given the word “Climate change”! Now watch media parroting it this whole week!
Yes, climate has an effect … but it’s not the long-term climate change they have in their minds
Climate fluctuates on various time scales, decadal, multi-decadal, longer scales, shorter scales like 2-3 years
The most prominent time scale that affects west coast droughts and fires is on that 2-3, 5-6 year time frame
There’s an oscillation in where North Pacific storms come ashore, guided by the jet stream in the upper atmosphere.
For a couple years storms will hit the western US coast. It’ll be rainy and forests will get wet and stay wetter longer into the summer fire season. You’ll hear the phrase “Pineapple Express” on the evening weather, referring to storms near Hawaii’s latitude staying low in latitude and slamming into California.
Then the pattern will switch. A blocking high-pressure system gets set up in the eastern Pacific and it diverts those low-pressure storm systems up into Canada. As a result, western US gets very little rain. Like for an entire year. Or two. Or three.
Forests dry out and are susceptible to fire. Even worse, there are no rain storms to drift in and put the fires out once they’re blazing.
It appears we’re in that phase now. Canada is having much less fire trouble because it’s been rainier than normal up there for a couple years.
As much of U.S. burns, western Canada has quieter-than-usual wildfire season due to rain and COVID lockdowns
A third and important factor is weather. Hot, dry, windy conditions are a deadly combination for the biggest fires, according to Flannigan. In the western United States, it has been hot and windy, and there has also been unusual lightning activity in places such as California.
In British Columbia and Alberta, a lot of rain has reduced much of the wildfire risk this season. Karley Desrosiers, a fire information officer with the B.C. fire service, pointed to wet weather that soaked deep into the ground — the precipitation “really helped mitigate the number of fires.”
Flannigan explained this has to do with the jet stream air currents that led to dry weather in the western United States and Siberia, and a soggier summer in western Canada.
https://nationalpost.com/news/as-much-of-u-s-burns-western-canada-has-quieter-than-usual-wildfire-season-due-to-rain-and-covid-lockdowns
… slight clarification: those blocking highs tend to get set up and disintegrate within a single season
… but there are larger circulation patterns that work on longer time scales that can make them more prevalent for a couple years at a time
El Nino is an oscillation on a 3-5 year time scale that’s well known, it acts principally within tropical latitudes but has reverberations into higher latitudes, and those higher latitudes have oscillations of their own as well
true!!
There busy spreading Hell on earth.
Hell will wait for them.
I used to hate the concept of Hell. I embrace it now.
and the people who end up there, sadly, choose Hell. Because they hate God that much.
When hunting for a good audo book last night I came across this one: Witches Be Crazy,
By: Logan J. Hunder. A reviewer said it was light hearted and fun so I bought it.
In the first or second chapter I ran into Gavin Newsom only in the book he calls himself “Rain-child Earth-humper the Wise. And in the next chapter we learn about his magnificent hair and how he gets the closest shave in town so that nothing blocks the people’s view of his magnificent jaw line.
On a more serious note, although I hate to lose the mental picture,
do you trust Kimberly Guilfoyle?
She’s Gavin’s ex, which shows a huge deficit of good judgement, and she moved to New York, across the country from her young child,
and yup. There IS something wrong with that.
Not a big fan of Don Jr. to begin with and I can’t imagine his five children can be pleased…
Yes.
Gavin is stuck with his Family ..
Kim is stuck with hers..
Families influence.
She had her child with her second husband in nyc.
I think she’s needs an audience.
She is much older than don jr. she keeps him distracted from his angst,
This just my 2 cebts, but Don Jr and his wife broke just as she was hospitalized after receiving an envelope with white power ,delivered to their apartment. I’ve sometimes thought they agreed to visibly part to protect her and the children. Having said that, it’s odd the lady he’s with Gavin’s ex.
Maybe not. Pillow talk works both ways.
“just as she was hospitalized after receiving an envelope with white power”
white powDer, white powDer
please, they’ve already got enough trouble with accusations of white power
🙂
Opps! Auto correct being funny again?
yeah, and I just replied to make a wisecrack, I’m like that
I know! ?
Imagine trying to cope with the loss of your home, and all your possessions and having to hear a smarmy, grinning , pardon my omitted French. say that climate change debate is over, as Newsom has said, seemingly for a number of years. Climate change? When do they expect climate stagnancy?
they steal votes … they dont care about a democrat voter – they will just VOTE for that REGISTERED voter.
All are highly addicted to serotonin uptake inhibitors.
They have fried egg brains the lit themselves.
If it is revealed to be intentional now, imagine the damage it will do to their entire enviro movement. Another rope-a-dope?
More Bore,
I don’t think they care whether they burn it all down. This sociopathy resembles what I imagine it was like back during the witch trials. Crazed bloodlust.
Please Mr. President, invoke the Insurrection Act!!! Before it’s too late?!
?Praying for the innocent families and people, pets and wildlife, and for special guidance and blessings to our First Responders.
Thank you!
Maybe the FBI should investigate if the old incendiary balloons that Japan sent over here on the jet stream during WWII finally went off.
From the twitter link SD provided above;
This morning, there was a manhunt for Zachary Lange in Albany, OR.
Lange is a Portland Antifascist currently facing multiple felony riot charges. The manhunt came after reports of a “male in black starting fires.” Might be unrelated. But very coincidental. Details to come.
why would the FBI even respond to the ANTIFA comment?
why FLAT OUT come out and say ANTIFA DIDNT DO IT.
If POTUS finds any evidence they were involved – he should use that to CLEAN the entire FBI leadership out. full resignation – and rehiring.
The fbi is almost as dirty now as in 2016. Noting has changed there. Still working against PT. imo
Agreed. My only quibble is using the word “almost”. But that’s a judgement call.
The FBI has trouble with evidence…Even when it is delivered to them…
They are fantastic at ignoring real evidence while going after innocent people.
They only believe the evidence they create
I think they KNOW to especially not believe that crap either.
Well let’s say the only evidence they pretend to believe is their own.
Lack of evidence is not evidence.
Yes it is. Trust me.
If these leftist freaks did indeed start these fires, they need to all be executed for committing human rights crimes. Preferably on live TV (if you can ‘t watch in person).
My suspect list of who started the fires (in no particular order).
1) Antifa members
2) BLM members
3) FBI agents
4) Some of each
All of the above, OffCourse.
Just call them Democrat goons. We can’t prove they are BLM or Antifa unless they have a membership card.
Don’t forget BATFE – the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives (and really big fires – think Waco.)
As much as I would like to see Hams involved in catching the perps, there are no Ham Radio frequencies between 148 and 220 MHz.
The radio in the picture gets emergency channels and other traffic too. If you look up 155.430 mentioned above, it is Olympia WA of some sort. definitely plausible
The radio is the type used by hams – many of us have several of them. These radios ALSO have frequencies used by police and fire. Hams don’t transmit on these frequencies.
Can’t wait for Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch to FOIA the FBI investigation 🙂
Stein’s Law:
What can’t go on forever, will stop.
Excusing terrorism and violence as “mostly peaceful protest” only brings more violence. It can’t go on. Nothing could be more ephemeral than the willful blindness of Ted Wheeler and Lori Lightfoot. It must stop, one way or another.
Building bombs and igniting them is hard, very hard. Bill Ayers ceased being a terrorist, not willfully, but because his gang blew themselves up. Literally.
Igniting fires is easy, very easy. Let’s hope ISIS isn’t seeing this. The Palestinians have already figured this out. What’s mainly stopping them is, uh oh, a wall.
The # 1 dividing line between left and right, liberal and conservative, is their attribution of the cause of evil. The right says bad people cause crimes, the left says malign outside forces cause crime (the system, root causes etc.). When you cross the line to understanding that evil people do evil, you’re a conservative. The solution here? Arrest, prosecute and punish the bad people. Kind of an old idea.
Simple solution will not work when those in charge refuse to “arrest, prosecute and punish the bad people.” Guys like Warden Gavin Newsome of California will continue to blame climate change and other imaginary demons rather than the voters who put him into office.
I called this from day one. Reason, we in BC are just across the line from Oregon and Wa, and have the same heat wave yet fires are at a minimum despite millions of acres of tinder dead forrest from pine beetle infestation. It is a no-brainer!
I’ve read that about Canada and fires also. Odd Canada isn’t having problems with fires. In fact, they are here helping us.
We do controlled burns in BC.
We stopped for a while but thankfully, reality prevailed.
It is illuminating to see a map of fire locations showing they all appear to stop at the borders. The fires don’t seem to have travel approval for either Canada or Mexico.
one way open borders.
Arson is a polical movement now – subject to FCC? who? someone? seC?
Others on this thread have pointed out that that’s an artifact of what you’re looking at being maps of US fires
… not a universal map of all fires in North America
Depends on what agency is compiling the data
US has agencies to compile and report and are primarily concerned at this time in compiling US fires
We’re not seeing a United Nations map that includes fires in Canada and Mexico
Eventually, a US agency or an academic research group will use satellite mapping to produce such an All-North-America map … but it looks like that hasn’t been produce quite yet
Give it a couple days
That seems to make sense at a superficial level. However, if you are in fire management you would want to know where all the fires are located, regardless of national borders. When a wildfire is raging it doesn’t care where your borders are located.
Understood, and I’m sure there are fire-management groups who are working with all the data. It’s just that whoever made the map we’re discussing * didn’t *.
Here’s a map of western Canadian fires, so there definitely are fires up there
Note that it doesn’t include US fires
People who make maps like this for pop media think provincially. They’re not comprehensive fire-management tools. They’re graphic illustrations for pop press. As long as they’ve got a visual ducked up for the article, their workday is done
Like I said, we’ll see a comprehensive map once one of the comprehensive scientific or fire-management groups put one up. But the maps we’re discussing here aren’t that.
It’s fun to crack wise about “fires stop at the border” on the basis of that first map, but as others have pointed out that’s not justified and you’d just look like a fool.
Please disregard that map, it’s from 2018 – my fault for not vetting the date
I found a Canada interactive mapper that shows fire hospots as detected by satellite sensing systems
Here’s a map from couple days ago, Sep 11, there are fewer Canada fires since then, as perhaps they’ve gotten a handle on putting some out
Certainly far fewer in Canada, probably a couple reasons
– a Canadian here at Treehouse said they still do controlled burns in Canada, not so much in the US anymore, they’ve been fought by the environmentalists
– North Pacific storms often get routed up into Canada, making it wetter generally; the ‘Pineapple Express’ pattern that routes storms into Canada is more rare
but not NO fires across the border; I still suspect the James Woods map was compiled with no Canada data
Here’s the mapper site if you want to monkey around with it … if anyone knows of a US one, pls post
https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/maps/fm3?type=tri&year=2020&month=9&day=14
… click to enlarge
see the new map at end of this thread
Absolutely tragic. The list of victims is growing. The stories are heartbreaking. I was moved to tears earlier today reading about the boy and his dog who died together. Yesterday, I read about a one year old child who died in the fires.
I pray for the people and animals.
I am concerned about a senior citizen treeper whose wife was in a care facility in the western half of the state, 4EDouglas (sp?). Have not seen if he has posted.
I am absolutely sickened by this whole mess . . .
I don’t mean to be disrespectful but, Gavin Gruesome, to me, looks a bit on the effeminate side.
Now, as Jerry Seinfeld would say, “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
When you look closely at the picture of President Trump with Governor Loathsome, you’ll clearly see The Don has Gavin in the death grip handshake.
President Trump’s index finger is spaced apart from his middle finger, and he obviously is controlling the weaker hand gesture of Gruesome’s slower and limp extension.
President Trump got there FIRST! He probably ALWAYS does!
It’s a power shake. I hate it when that happens to me! I usually demand a reshake.
Governor Gruesome seems very comfortable with it though.
No surprise.
He’s definitely “yielding”, isn’t he? What a “chauncey”! I’ll cast no aspersions on Ms. Guillfoyle, but, really? What I wouldn’t give to drop him to his knees with the “vice grip”..
I love that, “What a ‘chauncey’ “
Definitely know how you feel, Skipper.
However, it’s a bit of a brutal thought affiliation to incorporate Governor Licksome, on his knees, WITH a “vice” involved.
Some already speculate that he’s involved in the “World Wide Ped.”
He certainly is kinda supportive of that crap in California.
And your comment reminds me of a traffic sign we used to have here in Cali, one I always felt a little uncomfortable about,
“YIELD PED XING”
Rumor has it that Governor Gruesome had them all removed from around the state and had them fastened on the entire ceiling and every wall of his chauncey cave, as long as they didn’t hinder the light from his fuchsia fluorescent fixtures.
Michael Fox,
HA ! “chauncey cave”! (Not to be confused with “prison pocket”!)
Okay, Skipper, you’re killin’ me!
Now you owe me for a Haagen-Daz Mango Sorbet I just sprayed all over my iPad!
Apparently, a couple of the fellows from the “special services” detail for Governor Winsome NEVER refer to it as his prison “pocket.”
Around the Capitol, in very wide circles, it’s known as the Grand Canyon of Sacramento.
In the very deep trenches of the service, some say it’s actually “his” vag.
I don’t know WHAT to think… People talk.
And I DO apologize for being so foolish in a thread about such serious consequences.
BUT, it was Governor Loathsome who just had to attempt a diversion from these horrific fires to “CRIMATE CLISIS.“
Oh wait, it was Joe Bite’Em who used those words.
I think he AND Loathsome both hold Orientals in contempt, since Bite’Em mocks their language use, and Loathsome had his aunt Nancy Lugosi encourage them to come out in China Town in San Francisco and party hearty, even AFTER the Kung Flu had already taken some lives.
Insurrection inferno. We were warned years ago. Seemed far-fetched then. Not so much now.
Before people get too excited, sift through the hype first.
As of 9/10/2020: “Douglas County Sheriff’s Office reported that antifa has not started any fires and rumors that six antifa members were arrested are false.”
https://heavy.com/news/2020/09/oregon-fires-antifa-arson/
There was ONE guy charged with arson.
“Michael Jarrod Bakkela was charged with two counts of arson.”
I’ve no idea if he’s associated with antifa or anyone else. Or if he’s just crazy.
Ad Rem…this shill needs to go.
If you are referring to me, you couldn’t be more mistaken.
Some of the data is not inconsistent with Antifa involvement: arsonists travelling from interstate, arsonists having criminal histories not associated with arson, age of arsonists, location of fires (ie. not in Canada or Mexico), use of fireworks to start fires.
It will be interesting to see if any of those arsonists arrested can be linked to protests/rioting of recent months.
All the usual FakeNews sources like The Oregonian are claiming that there is no evidence that anti-fascist protestors from Portland have anything to do with these fires that spring up. The newspapers claim that the mostly peaceful racial justice rioters are not involved in arson.
Yes, and they can point to mostly-not-on-fire forests to support their contention
well, except a couple more that I was able to find in just a few minutes:
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/09/man-arrested-on-arson-allegation-in-wildfire-west-of-eugene-deputies-say.html?fbclid=IwAR36Ubh6DvZC9Pe6xWYLpd7EqbvKsa-1f9WXyjHOMMrLeCZ0RLR04d7xtaY
https://nbc16.com/news/local/man-seen-starting-fires-at-oregon-state-park-local-fire-chief-says
It is the Sheriff’s Office of Douglas County, Jackson County, and the Police Chief of Ashland OR that says there is no evidence the fires are related to Antifa.
Not me. Me doesn’t know if they are related or not.
Anyone with proof of a relationship can present it.
The man arrested in Puyallup WA is Antifa. Arrested in 2014 for antifa-in. It’s in Katie’s tweets. It was on the Gateway Pundit the other day. He was seen by an off duty cop setting the fire in the median in Puyallup who followed and arrested him…while he was live-streaming.
btw, the Police One website, with 650,000 registered users, shut down its comments section about two weeks ago. This section was accessible only to confirmed current or former LEOs ( yes, some trolls occasionally snuck in).
we need to inform our country what American means – and REMOVE any propaganda that it means this color, that color, this person, that person!
American means you being individually respected and have individual rights, with an individual name! that can not be grouped and discared for any reason!
Then we END diversity by GROUP, and tell everyone you are not diverse! you are an AMERICAN with diverse ideas!
The FBI kneeling and not saving individual lives – is because of a perversion of an individuals life! they are allowing people to be NUMBERS and not NAMES — so their death doenst HURT THE conscious as much!
the young girl named ________was murdered by a flame that crossed her body and swallowed her air her skin, and shook her bones for what felt like eternity, because you the FBI neglected taking your job serious.
This is very interesting and just as I suspected. Who would turn down a request for Federal assistance especially financial, for people suffering such devastation? Especially when the state is shut down because of Covid, and is bleeding money, about to go bankrupt.
It’s a twofer politically…financial assistance and political narrative of climate change for the upcoming elections. Do I think the Dems would purposely set fires burning thousands of acres of land and homes, killing people in the process purposeful or not? Why yes. Yes I do.
There seems to be a lot of this similar type folks driving around with explosives in their trucks, shooting sheriff’s deputies and citizens. Happened right here in GA… a guy from Texas. I’ll link the story.
https://www.wsbradio.com/news/local/gbi-searching-armed-dangerous-suspect-accused-shooting-georgia-deput
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/officials-fugitives-stolen-trailer-explosives-inside-72906072
if he is a hero he should be interviewed and applauded.
if he is maliscious – he should be put out there for us to know the truth
he deserves the rewards of a War HERO, or the NOTICE like the Magabomber’s face was put all over the news.
FBI logic:
Just because antifa sets everything on fire it doesn’t mean they would set everything on fire, right?
Funny (not ha-ha) story. Read the above story, and went out to make a sandwich, and said “Turns out Antifa has been starting these Calif. fires.”
And she says “well I just read a headline that its these idiots having “gender reveal” parties, and shooting fireworks, blue for boy, pink for girl, and THATS whats starting the fires!”
“Er,…excuse me?” I say.
“I didn’t READ the article, but I guess expectant parents have a party, to announce the ultrasound results, and use fireworks to do it, blue/boy, pink/girl, and THATS whats starting the fires!”
Now, recently I saw a headline, that said a “gender reveal party” had led to a spread of COVID. I also didn’t read the article, but ASSUMED a “gender reveal party” is where people “come out of the closet” ; “I’m gay!” “I’m transgender!”
Frankly, I don’t know, nor do I CARE what,a “gender reveal party” is, but this gives some incite into what happens when people just read headlines, or ‘skim’ the news.
I see why the msm THINK they can convince people to vote for Bidem, or that Climate change, or Covid scam is real, etc.
Let us hope they are wrong,…
And I thought children determined their own gender now days.
Child Diddlers also try and voice their opinion on the gender tooo
Its “Gender Reveal parties”?
I don’t know, maybe its like a Satanic Bah Mitzva, when the childs 12, they recite memorised sections of “Rules for Radicals”, and then they “reveal” what gender they are,…er wannabe,…er want to be addressed as,..er um,..sumpin like at?
The Democrats figured out that the riots weren’t helping there poll numbers so they are distracting the public with these forest fires. They are sending out their foot soldiers to start fires on the West Coast. It would be nice if the US marshals would monitor these folks.
They also need to bust up the massive voter fraud rings that will be happening in November. If voter fraud is illegal, they should be able to investigate it.
The dim Dems have lost control.
Their voters are dying from smoke inhalation, lost their Livelihood, likely lost their homeowners insurance, and now their possessions and family heirloom.
What happened to the Egyptian army Ahern they tried to cross the Red Sea?
Never forget.
Pelosi et al, did long ago,
There are 3 types of people:
Those who watch things happen AND kneel
Those who wonder what happened.
THOSE WHO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN.
Which type is the FBI??????
Antifa has been attempting arson in Portland for months.
They recently escalated to Molotov cocktails.
BLM/Antifa is has been calling to “burn it down” for months.
We DID NOT have dry lightning strikes in the areas of Oregon which the fires are starting.
The strikes are pinpointed, and when there isn’t lightning the only cause is human.
We can do the math. This is a concerted arson attack on Oregon.
I can’t speak for WA or CA, but this is what common sense is telling all Oregonians.
Shoot to kill all spotted arsonists.
Math is my strong suit also, Ackman.
I posted the following comment further down the thread but it seems appropriate right here:
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My ire is UP !!!
If I caught someone starting a fire, what would I do???
The realization that people would go around starting fires INTENTIONALLY, and, that others would PAY THEM to do that, reminds me of a fellow I met many years ago.
I don’t remember the context of our conversation but, in it, he expressed his “rules of engagement.”
He said, “If you try to kill me, or someone else, other than yourself, I’LL KILL YOU FIRST!”
Right now, I think I understand his principle for the defense of life.
The “authorities” had BETTER take off the gloves and start going after these scumbags. Because if they don’t… yeah, cops will be the least of Antifa’s worries. Open season is THIS close to being declared.
If I am that 12 year old boy’s dad, or relative, or community member, and if that child died a horrendous death and his mother was burned beyond recognition because of an Antifa arsonist . . . Not sure it is “almost” anymore. If there is no law, if we are a country of men and not laws, then frontier justice is going to arrive for the very next man seen out in a midway lighting it on fire. Anyone going to turn in a deputy whose camera just happened to die a la Epstein? Don’t think so.
Yup, the President stated as much on Janine’s show tonight jello. Things are heating up all over the country like well, forest fires.
Oh man that obese female with the FBI vest in the middle of the picture.
These are the types of people representing today’s FBI. Freakin joke. Yeah she’ll save your life, after she finishes off a mixed box of Dunkin, heavy on the jelly and sugar. Pathetic, jeez not even a basic physical fitness requirement for these people?
If the FBI told me the earth was round I would join the Flat Earth Society
The Oregon Fire Marshall got replaced today
Can you elaborate – as to why, and who replaced him/her.
Replaced by Mariana Ruiz-Temple
Source: https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2020/09/oregon-fire-marshal-put-on-leave-amid-historic-wildfires.html
Thanks! I read the article but it doesn’t state the reason other than the Gov was apparently behind the change.
My guess (without any evidence to support it) is that the former fire marshal wanted to aggressively pursue the arsonists while the new female will bow to Gov. Brown’s leftwing “silk glove” approach to handling arsonists…er…ah…”peaceful protesters”…
Hey FBI, do we have a motive for the Vegas shooting yet?
elen dengeres ?
It’s a sorry state of affairs that we no longer have confidence in any statements coming from the FBI. Like when a new story about Lindsey Graham talking and promising to get tough with the corrupt special investigators. But that’s where we’re at now.
Putting all the facts together, we are in the midst of a global COMMUNIST takeover. Everybody reading this should prepare. I believe it is going to get a lot worse. We now know for a fact that the democrats plan to steal the election using phony mail in ballots. They have likely already had them filled out in China and shipped back all ready to overturn Trump’s upcoming landslide victory. What will be your response? Will you sit there and let them take over our country? What are your plans?
We’ve allowed the left to take over our government and institutions. We’ve allowed the left to take over our schools, and our media. We’ve allowed the left to neuter our law enforcement and our rule of law
There are zero consequences for corrupt and criminal leftist politicians and officials, just as there’s zero consequences for the criminal leftist scumbags who run wild on our streets while destroying everything in sight
So they made a few arrests. Just put their names on the file under all the other names of people who’ve been arrested that we’ll never hear about again
Leftist politicians / officials and their street trash thugs have been doing criminal acts for four years because of Trump but act with impunity
When the criminal, the top brass of law enforcement and the judicial system all play for the same team, you get chaos. You get lawlessness, You get destruction. You get apocalyptic insight into the future
People are killed and hurt. Lives are destroyed. Animals are left in a burned out shell with no food and nowhere to go. Taxpayers are on the hook for massive bailouts and the beauty of our natural earth, along with it’s ecosystems, are destroyed
And for what?
So the global elite can continue controlling the worlds wealth and it’s people
So politicians can continue to profit from their jobs
So officials can retain their power and profit from it
So brain dead leftists can virtue signal
So bored drugged out losers and criminals can amuse themselves by running wild on our streets
No consequences for one side. That’s what those who vote democrat have brought us
A lawless, corrupt and criminal third world banana republic. The destruction of the best system in the world.That’s the legacy of democrat voters
If the media and fed Leviathan are working overtime to tell us there is no evidence that its intentional, thats how you know its intentional.
Tragically, I am sure I am not the only one who suspected arson. The mentally ill, violent, vengeful human excrement of the Left are a danger to this country.
Why did I think a ham radio had a crank that you had to turn? ?? looks like a walkie-talkie in the pic above
looks like one of these:
I have been delaying buying one for my cabin becaus of the cost… the need to listen for mass murderers makes it a little more attractive, however
Yes – it is a ham radio. I have 3 of these.
I suspect fires caused by climate change , human driven by FBIdeology, and spread by large quantities of methane expelled from Democrat bs.
I don’t or didn’t need FBI to tell me these fires are arson. We had a very wet winter here in the West. We have years and years of undergrowth throughout California, Oregon and Washington due to environmentalist-controlled Democrats. Until last Monday we had a long period of no wind and a heat dome that sat over for for approximately two months – that brush from the winter along with the old uncleared brush is nice and dry. We’ve had zero rain this summer – we did not have a monsoon summer – thus as far as I know only one of the fires was started by dry-lightening. We know one was due to a very stupid gender reveal party – we are still under the smoke from that fire here in Arizona and Nevada, too. Haven’t seen blue sky for a week. I have some friends in Washington State who recently were telling me about the water damage from seepage into their home – due to water that has soaked the ground. They are in NW Washintgon. I have zero dobut 99% of these fires are arson – either homeless campfires gone bad in the wind earlier this week or deliberate. I know at least some were from illegal firewords, add in Antifa has all summer been firing illegal fireworks at police officers and 2 + 2 = Antifa.
I forgot what document it is, whether something written by the Weather Underground in the ’70s or a more current Marxists document, but it clearly says that once the cities are under siege “they” plan on starting fires all across the country. Woodlands of the north, mountain hillsides, wheat fields, etc., anything that will catch fire they plan on “burning down.”
Sorry I don’t remember the document. I’ll try to find it and post a link.
FBI lacks credibility and should remain in their normal role of not keeping Americans safe from terrorists and trying to frame a duly elected president.
Some Israeli firefighters – 6 iirc – just arrived to help on the fire lines.
We need to take those guys off the fire lines and put them on what they do best – terrorist hunting.
After all, Israel owes us a big one this time around.
Prayers for all those in harm’s way. May Our Lord grant them safety, and His Peace of Mind.
Clackamas County, Oregon just happens to be where the conservative truck caravan to Portland, OR staged up. Also, the Clackamas County Sheriff told Gov. Kate Brown that he wouldn’t send his deputies to get abused by antifa/ burn loot murder.
https://www.kptv.com/news/hundreds-show-up-for-trump-2020-cruise-rally-in-clackamas-county/article_e5112422-ea6e-11ea-a394-6f4d7667cd50.html
kgw.com/article/news/local/wildfire/large-fire-forces-evacuations-in-clackamas-county-40000-residents-without-power/283-2b940f1b-afe7-4bd1-a9f2-9440676d8e41
https://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/2020/08/clackamas-washington-county-sheriffs-rebuff-gov-kate-browns-request-to-staff-portland-protests.html
Heels-up’s dad is a Marxist —
https://nationalfile.com/stanford-newspaper-archives-reveal-kamalas-dad-to-be-a-marxist/
Still looking for the other document. . .
I know more friends & relatives who have been evacuated or have received warnings to evacuate than I know who had Covid, Fortunately they are safe & have not lost property or animals. One has been able to return just to feed the animals. Two homes in my niece’s neighborhood are lost homes. These homes are not up in the mountains but on the edge of the suburbs in Seattle, Portland & Salem areas. The air quality is horrible in the Seattle outskirts, but even worse in Oregon. I never where my mask outside or in the car, but am now due to the smoke. Two weeks ago I took a skyline picture of Portland, there was smoke but you could still barely make out Mt Hood. My daughter sent me a pic on Thursday from the same viewpoint that you can make out the downtown buildings but nothing beyond them.
I do suspect arson due to the close proximity to towns. We just returned from driving from Montana. It struck me odd that the fires there were not as bad. I did not see any going through areas that typically have a problem….
Praying for rain (forecast says Tuesday)and prayers for those in danger…
My ire is UP !!!
If I caught someone starting a fire, what would I do???
The realization that people would go around starting fires INTENTIONALLY, and, that others would PAY THEM to do that, reminds me of a fellow I met many years ago.
I don’t remember the context of our conversation but, in it, he expressed his “rules of engagement.”
He said, “If you try to kill me, or someone else, other than yourself, I’LL KILL YOU FIRST!”
Right now, I think I understand his principle for the defense of life.
We had a moto. It is not our job to die for our country and values. It is our job to make the enemy die for his!
O my word, I like that motto! It’s a keeper!
I’ll be borrowing that…
Many of the Fires in Australia were arson. The media did not cover that there and they will not cover it here. I wonder how much Carbon Dioxide and other things are being made by the forest mismanagement and arson.
When is enough enough? When? Are we to conclude we are on our own? If so its time to pray as we loadup our mags. Barr’s time to move is on very thin ice. If the silent majority roars.
He will be on the menu for lunch! And the rest of the filth in D.C.! And elsewhere!
I do not advocate violence, but there IS a line. Cross it and there will be no going back.
THAT is your new damn normal!
But I thought these fires were caused by “global warming,” excuse me “climate change”. I’m confused.
the day will come when the investigative, prosecutorial, and clandestine agencies will rue their throwing in their lot with the dnc and causing their natural allies in the republican party to turn against them.
Newsom, Brown and Inslee have been repeating the same mantra: the fires are caused by climate change. Obama and Hillary have been tweeting this too so the puppet Dem gov’s are doing the mockingbird thing – along with the MSM. Some of arsonists are known Antifa and have been arrested before for rioting. You have to assume someone is paying them to start the fires. Probably the same someone/people who pay them to riot. I can’t believe the FBI haven’t been able to track down the financial source, or are they in on it too?
These are CIA tactics. Used in other countries for decades. Now turned loose in America. Want to know why you cant find the source of the funding? – CIA know how to cover their tracks. Just imagine if the CIA wanted to cause havok in any other country. This is what they would do. The chickens really have come home to roost. Blaming dems for this is a waste of time, because many repubs are in on it too. Its CIA, it always has been and will continue, until we shut it down or hey get their puppet in the office. Even if it is closed down and defunded, then it will just go offshore. Gina Haskel needs to start taking some heat for this, so far she’s just sitting there smiling.
It is now left to the people to search for these people and keep surveillance on your areas and confront suspicious people.
The arsonists should be shot dead on the very spot.
I’ve been saying for some time now that conservatives have lost every major political battle in the past 40 years or more. It is because hey are the party of “no muss, no fuss from us”. We’re lazy, complacent, spoiled and expect good to magically triumph over evil.
Gentlemen… Get off the damn sofa already. The soyboys are winning this war for their keepers… Call them all of the names you want, they at least take action where we will not respond. It’s disgusting.