Back in 2013 and 2014 we shared the story of a man returning to Florida was stopped by police in Maryland who asked him for his firearm. When the Floridian asked the Maryland police how they knew he owned a firearm, things got sketchy. {Go Deep} The event kicked off a constitutional discussion.
A few years later in 2015 the Wall Street Journal reported on a national federal database that was using Automatic License Plate Readers (APLRs) to capture and store the travel of millions of Americans {SOURCE}.
Now we fast-forward a decade and that federal database is now being exploited by local police around the nation to keep track of ordinary persons of interest to their community who travel outside their jurisdiction. This is where the Flock Cameras come into the discussion. WATCH:
The same government interests who dismiss our concerns about privacy are the same govt interests who point out how horrible China and Iran are for monitoring their citizens on CCTV systems.
I will only put it part way in.
Lol. That’s definitely one way of looking at it.
Lol, you know you’ve gotten old when you (me) had to stop and think about that!
👉Too saw or not to saw, that is the question.
It only takes a “Minute Man”👈
With that in hand, he won’t have to “aim small, miss small.” 🙂
(sarcasm intended)
Someone forgot to where their vehicle license plate?
So, someone is safe? (to trim a bush, tree… )
(sarcasm ended)
As my neighbors are so quick to say … “Why would I worry, I have nothing to hide!”
No worries, they’ll come up with something.
the more digital collection methods, the more ways to frame the digitall version of you (that doesnt go to jail; only the physical version does as it defends itself from digital fabrication)
As I would say, why look if you have no probable cause? Is the Fourth Amendment worthless to certain people in law enforcement?
the word Effects has never been argued effectively
The more that they know about you, the easier for them to manufacture something that your neighbors (and perhaps even your own family) will believe!
Show me the man, I will show you the crime.
Hubs just educated me on the people behind these cameras, the kiddies, who I do not trust, never have and never will. Yeah, I could look it up, but why bother, it’s not going too well for their little biz venture as it is, they’ll be gone soon
When people respond with that I always ask them if they have curtains or blinds on the windows of their home?
Via Anonymous Conservative this morning:
https://xcancel.com/WallStreetApes/status/2086965692813992435
“The reality is, the evidence that Flock prevents crime is nonexistent. Cities that have been covered in Flock cameras saw the same crime reduction as cities with none, because crime fell nationwide everywhere at the same time.
“Flock simply stood in front of a falling curve it didn’t cause and called it proof”
“The data being referenced is from Council on Criminal Justice and it shows crime days through 2025
– Nationwide crime days showed a 36% decline since 2021
– Houston Texas which is heavily saturated with flock only saw a 36% reduction in crime during this same time period
“Meaning the crime rate fell at the same rate whether there were flock cameras or not
“Keep in mind there are 3,800 flock cameras in the Houston area so you would logically expect the decline in crime to be much greater, but homicides only fell at the national average.”
crime did not fall nationwide.
appropriate crime REPORTING fell.
When you deport illegals, send Ice out, block the borders; crime might just drop.
The millions of these Spy Cameras and the sudden, proliferation of Data Centres for storage and other nefarious purposes are not mutually exclusive I’m betting.
i’ve heard each camera contains ~3grams of gold and a significant amount copper
if true, and the tweeks/chronics aka meth heads catch wind of this, those devices will dissappear quicker than they can be installed
I think I read that a lot of the cameras were stolen awhile back in Pennsylvania somewhere.
<I think I read that a lot of the cameras were stolen awhile back in Pennsylvania somewhere.>
Get the flock outta here 🙂
Instagram is full of posts the last few days crediting flock cameras with recovering abducted children and catching criminals. Nice try diddy.
Yes, because there is simply no other way to catch criminals or recover abducted children than to violate people.
You can’t make this stuff up.
I have always felt the concealed carry permit was a nose under the tent to identify how many weapons someone owns. I think that is a need to know basis.
Person to person sales do not require paperwork in most states… no record on those transactions. In my state (Texas) that’s a LOT of sales
I am not talking about the background check that FFL are required to submit to the state police. I am talking about to legally be able to conceal carry in most states you need to file with the state for a concealed carry permit.
If the 2nd Amendment is for personal protection then, carrying weapons for my and my family’s protection is my business.
Related to personal sales and transactions with FFL that are no longer in business or no longer have a FFL. This Epoch Times (paywall) article has some interesting numbers. It says that ATF has 920 million forms. How many forms are for more than one firearm?
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/federal-government-has-records-of-over-920-million-gun-sales-report-4248720
I would say that if they anti 2nd Amendment folks have a lot of buy backs to make to every get what they really want.
Why would you want to put yourself on a government list of gun owners? I’ve never understood the thinking of getting a permit for something the Constitution already does not prohibit.
Well, that rather frightening. Whats next drones?
Well , funny you should ask. They are already being implemented. They can fly autonomously and use the GPS tied to police and fire vehicles and body cams. Many police agencies have had drones for years, but the autonomous are new
flock is coming out with a new series of drones….. oh yeah…. I saw a video of guys checking out the flock property….. saw the new drones…. funny… flock did not like them recording the license plates or the drones ……
Flock CEO says documenting the location of flock cameras is terrorism. Israel has cameras everywhere. Our government is controlled by the same people. We will have them everywhere as well.
This is no different from data centers. We do not live in a democracy, regardless of citizens preferences whoever has the most capital can steamroll all “laws” and get anything they want.
This was true under Clinton and has grown more true with each passing year. It is not slowing down but accelerating.
Israeli company per chance?
Flock was founded in 2017. It was co-founded by three Georgia-Tech alumni: Garrett Langley, Paige Todd, and Matt Feury.
Flock is a privately held American manufacturer and operator of surveillance hardware and software…………..
Maybe Tucker Owens has some classified inside info…….
Friend of Peter Thiel is my understanding.
The recent Supreme Court decision wrt geo-fence warrants seems that it may apply here.
Soon we’ll be just like China. License plate is only the beginning. Social Credit Score is coming as soon as the next Democrat is elected president.
Don’t I remember this from somewhere? Something about no one being able to buy or sell… hmm…
It’s in the Bible.
“The same government interests who dismiss our concerns about privacy are the same govt interests who point out how horrible China and Iran are for monitoring their citizens on CCTV systems.”
this is why i feel like, in some ways, our surveillance state is WORSE than china.
in china, you KNOW they are watching, they don’t put on any airs about it or gaslight you into thinking you are a nutjob for being worried, and you know what the rules are that will get you into hot water.
by contrast, we keep getting washed in propaganda about how free we are and everything is great, and anyone who thinks this is nefarious is a conspiracy theorist, and if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about. worse yet, half of us, even on this forum, seem to think that because trump is supposedly “in charge” or cops and mil are “mostly good people” that its not a big deal.
but “our” government IS watching and waiting.
“Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God”
~James Eastland
“…..how horrible China and Iran [and The United Kingdom] are for monitoring their citizens on CCTV systems.”
In Blighty they are on every corner, in every village, in every town, in every city.
More than 10 years ago, friends went to Ireland on vacation.
CCTV is everywhere, not just urban areas but very rural areas as well.
Same, Mom, yes.
Flock cameras aren’t for preventing crime or catching criminals. They are for surveillance and control of lawful citizens.
Funny how some of the old movies are coming true. Big Brother is watching. How long before they start feeding us Solvent Green (not sure if that’s right or not. Been a long time since I’ve seen it
Soylent Green is people. Good movie. We laughed at the idea of the government offing people intentionally. Then Covid hit. I don’t laugh about it anymore.
Canada has been intentionally offing people for awhile now (MAiD).
Sometimes, hospitals in the USA “harvest organs” before the “donor” is dead.
I think that is on about the same moral level as abortion.
It’s not just about convenience.
It is deliberate human sacrifice to Satan, the god of this world.
In the UK, there is a CCTV camera mounted outside the listed and historically marked home of George Orwell.
Irony of ironies….
👉You use the Solvent to reduce the bodies in order to get the Soylent Green👈
… “Soylent Green is people!” Perhaps we should look into “beyond meat” a little further! 😉
“Fahrenheit 451”, 1966, from Ray Bradbury’s 1950’s novel. It looks dated — until the last 15-minutes with the surveillance system and fake news State media that seemed impossibly dystopian in 1966. Great Ending!
Good ole boy Sheriff Grady Judd just loves him some cameras. Flock him.
Here’s how dumb some people can be.
If we follow the logic that some surveillance is a good thing, then total surveillance is the best possible thing. There’s simply no way around the logic if one is to be logically consistent and without being internally contradictory. So, someone who holds this position must be willing to say that all crime would drop to zero if only we had total surveillance and a digital panopticon. Does anyone really believe this?
flock em
LOL. I love your peaceful morning and evening photos, but this is one of your best! Cheers, friend.
There are videos online showing flock cameras pointing at shooting range driveway entrances.
I believe this in one Florida was later vandalized after this video went viral:
Here’s a story on one in Milwaukee:
https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2026/08/10/gun-range-removes-flock-cameras-pointed-at-entrance-to-parking-lot-n1233456
Now why would these cameras be there? Hmmm?
Flock of Seagulls?
Flock of geese?
Flock of ducks?
ah, Flock of sheep, yeah that’s it
“The same government interests who dismiss our concerns about privacy are the same govt interests who point out how horrible China and Iran are for monitoring their citizens on CCTV systems.”
If you want to see government outrage, all you need to do is seize Congress members’ phone records, eh? Meanwhile, screw the people, they stink on ice!
50 officers misused the cameras for personal purposes ..
Trust the government criticising China and Iran for monitoring their citizens on CCTV systems?
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2026/08/03/50-police-officers-accused-of-using-flock-license-plate-cameras-to-stalk-people/
Those are the ones they’ve caught so far.
“Person of Interest”
a “science fiction”crime series 2011-2016.
That was a prescient series.
Also posted in the covid-19 thread.
Re: “Safe and Effective” (jab) “Freeest and Fairest” (selection)
…and today, as flock cameras emerge across the landscape,
we hear officials say
‘its for public safety’
or
‘only to capture villains’.
Whom defines ‘villains’?
Whom defines ‘safety’?
Some will say, well, if you did not commit a crime,
then
there is nothing to fear about flock (license plate reading etc) cameras. ( that is a canard, baloney)
p.s.
Some thought in 2021, 22… that people gatherings of greater than 10 (like thanksgiving family meals, church etc.)
was an unsafe hazard and subject to fines etc. (unless it was a walmart, grocery store … etc.)
What if a flock camera (one of many dispersed across the country side / communities) was used to observe many vehicles parked at one building?…. where people are gathering… ?
hmmm…
via incrementalism,
the term its (flock cameras)
‘for public safety’
or
‘only to capture villains’,
then gets another nefarious meaning, over time…
[ whom do we know,
that keeps on changing the meaning of words, over time…to fit their changing desires ? ]
hmmm…
Love thy neighbors…
In a total surveillance state the only ones left to benefit from such an arrangement are criminals and government (or do I repeat myself?) Maybe that is the actual goal? If so, I’d say we’re very close.
Texas bought some state trooper vehicles equipped with Israeli surveillance equipment to allow it to act like a cell tower and intercept, record, and provide for the officers every sibgle cell call and text within range
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/texas-police-spent-4-5-165042682.html
these camera companies are nothing but tech start ups, and they are using the “ploy” of safety being their product. The product is information and data collection and … gasp… the sale there of. They say they get your tag, stickers and even dents…. do you think maybe they sell info to insurance companies so they can check driving habits (like that 3 mph over the speed limit etc)….
they sell your info to all kinds of places…. and can link it up with your phone and credit card. They are easily hacked and are not able to be used in court. You the tax payer are paying for them to be installed and for any suits from illegal/accidental stops …. oddly enough, you sign your right to sue them when you sign the contract.
I have simply had ENOUGH of all these tech bros making money off my life. This has to end.
oh yeah, they are only supposed to keep the video for a certain amount of time….. one of the cameras was hacked and it showed video of its testing at the factory….oops.. I guess that was an anomaly ???
Google literally does this every day. Google even wants me to critique companies I drive by.
As long as we as a culture build “men without chests” these systems will be misused and abused. All the rules and safeguards won’t stop someone hell bent on abusing the system. The only way to stop the abuse is to not have them.
re: under (enough) scrutiny?
Deputies, police are being instructed to not say that they have a flock camera in their vehicle etc.
i.e. if a police vehicle is following another vehicle,
it may be pulling up data about the vehicle / driver…
link:
Not advised.
Not advised.
For some odd reason, some (taxpayer paid) cameras are becoming coyly inoperable (by tax payer) ?
news article:
https://www.ktvo.com/news/local/wapello-county-sheriff-reviewing-flock-camera-policy-four-cameras-hit-by-gunfire/article_ccd7faf9-6e27-4347-82c0-9b83de19cd0e.html
“Oh, they are there to keep you safe “. There are no proactive measures for preventing crimes with these cameras. Only reactive, same as our Law Enforcement officers. Remember, they want no police.
Sounds like the shot (safe and effective and it’s to prevent infection).
Do not believe a word they are saying.
St. Petersburg, Florida has gone all in on using Flocks, but a citizen has gone all in on protesting it legally. He has a square piece of metal on a pole that he holds as he sits under the Flock Camera. The Metal reflects back on the Flock so the camera sees nothing to record. This is legal because he does not physically damage the Flock. He in turn enlists friends and acquaintances to do the same.
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2026/08/04/down-with-the-flock-florida-man-uses-simple-trick-to-combat-flock-cameras/
Or the case of Jacob Rockwell being fined for running a red light in Pensacola, Florida. Only problem he was in Alabama. No due process guilty by camera and have to prove one is innocent.
And now Flock is being flocked by a competitor, Axon. Axon is behind the “Axon Lightpole” — which uses already erected, everyday infrastructure to add AI surveillance components to keep an eye on Americans.
https://dailycaller.com/2026/07/22/axon-lightpole-ubicquia-flock-surveillance-artificial-intelligence-ai-privacy-technology/
We are already being surveiled. If you have a Smart phone, if you use a credit/debit card, if you venture online, etc., you are already in the databases. The Flock cameras are just an in your face thing that upsets people.
There is zero privacy.
Grrrrr… if they spent money filling potholes the way they have gone gangbusters for flock cameras… we would all be better off.
But since when is ANYTHING invested for the good of We the People anymore?
It’s all about geofencing us into our dilapidated 15 minute cities that they’re running into the ground.
In central Indiana on the freeways… there are warning signs that all speed is being monitored by camera now and the maximum fines are $150 per occurrence.
Based upon the HUGE number of offenders at $150 a pop… our craptastic government just found ways to feed their grift for many many years to come.
Amish mode of transportation wins out.