The New York Times (think DHS embeds) are not concerned about the building of a surveillance state using cross-reference artificial intelligence systems into various government agencies; no, the New York Times (think DHS embeds) are concerned it is President Trump triggering the building of the process, and the parameters therein.
I have outlined this seemingly inevitable construct with great granular detail, that is creating the surveillance state for almost a year. Culminating in a December 2024 recap [SEE HERE] along with my position in January of this year [SEE HERE]. I do not like it, but I understand the arguments behind it.
[New York Times] – In March, President Trump signed an executive order calling for the federal government to share data across agencies, raising questions over whether he might compile a master list of personal information on Americans that could give him untold surveillance power.
Mr. Trump has not publicly talked about the effort since. But behind the scenes, officials have quietly put technological building blocks into place to enable his plan. In particular, they have turned to one company: Palantir, the data analysis and technology firm.
The Trump administration has expanded Palantir’s work across the federal government in recent months. The company has received more than $113 million in federal government spending since Mr. Trump took office, according to public records, including additional funds from existing contracts as well as new contracts with the Department of Homeland Security and the Pentagon. (This does not include a $795 million contract that the Department of Defense awarded the company last week, which has not been spent.)
Representatives of Palantir are also speaking to at least two other agencies — the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service — about buying its technology, according to six government officials and Palantir employees with knowledge of the discussions.
The push has put a key Palantir product called Foundry into at least four federal agencies, including D.H.S. and the Health and Human Services Department. Widely adopting Foundry, which organizes and analyzes data, paves the way for Mr. Trump to easily merge information from different agencies, the government officials said.
Creating detailed portraits of Americans based on government data is not just a pipe dream. The Trump administration has already sought access to hundreds of data points on citizens and others through government databases.
[…] Palantir’s selection as a chief vendor for the project was driven by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, according to the government officials. At least three DOGE members formerly worked at Palantir, while two others had worked at companies funded by Peter Thiel, an investor and a founder of Palantir. (read more)
Every element of the U.S. surveillance state is contingent upon selling the ‘security’ message. With a comprehensive and interconnected database of identity for all Americans: •it makes illegal alien captures and deportations more efficient; •it makes eliminating fraud and abuse in the entitlement programs more substantial; •it can make voting more secure, and •it could protect the identity of Americans from theft and exploitation.
Peter Thiel (Palantir), Elon Musk (xAI, SpaceX), Larry Ellison (Oracle), David Sacks and a host of mutually aligned artificial intelligence builders stand to benefit financially from a technologically efficient Surveillance State. Their companies and their AI software products are the targeting tools within the DHS surveillance system itself.
Do not be misled by their ownership of different companies within this construct, they are all mutually allied; factually, they are all friends in the same tech sector.
The tools created by Palantir et al, are multifunctional. They can be used by the Pentagon and CIA for military application, and they can be used by DNI, DHS, FBI and TSA for domestic application.
Just as the Patriot Act redefined “terror threats” to begin sweeping 360 degrees, so too are the tools of the surveillance state designed for both foreign and domestic application.
There is no way to avoid being the target of a weapon once that weapon is created. However, unlike the mutually assured destruction within the nuclear analogy, there will be no threat of mutual application within the surveillance bomb. There are going to be castes or tiers of people not subjected to the outcome of detonation; therein lies my biggest point against it.
There are going to be tiers of people who are not subjected to the rules of the Surveillance State. There are going to be tiers of people, powerful, influential, some intensely rich people, to whom the application of the surveillance does not exist.
I have already seen this ‘tiered’ system starting to come into place. I have witnessed firsthand the outcomes of the software being deployed within the design of their building. I have witnessed real identities masked by the system as an outcome of their status. Facial recognition programs that black out search results based on arbitrary definitions and determinations of those who control the surveillance application.
Inside the surveillance system, supported by the policy team behind President Trump, there will be classes of people. Just as we defined “essential workers” within the COVID-19 pandemic. This essential group will be classed based on their administrative value to the government operators who control the mechanics of outcomes; perhaps “essential administrators.” This is a natural outcome of the mindset behind “continuity of government,” the baseline for the Patriot Act creation.
I have traveled throughout the East and West to gain perspective on what makes us different; what makes Americans different. What I can assert with clarity is that if we lose the Liberty argument then the ideological representatives behind Barack Obama will have succeeded, the fundamental transformation will be irreversible.
While the Declaration of Independence is long regarded as the greatest written declaration of purpose, the latter created Bill of Rights, the first Ten original amendments to the U.S. Constitution, is just as important. The first declared our intent; the second defined how our founders intended to retain the intent during our collective assembly. Together they outline what set the course to make America great.
This frames the cornerstone of my viewpoints on all of the characters in politics. It is not a matter of debate that on these core issues of Liberty and the concerns around the Surveillance State will impact us all. Everything else is a downstream consequence.
If the system is unavoidable, then what underpins my opposition? Well, the tiered system of constitutional protections only for particular categories of personage must be rebuked. On this matter there cannot be compromise, because every outcome that impedes our way of life is a derivative of this value, “all men are created equal.”
What is the value of national security, when the liberty that secures the values of America is destroyed in the process? Either the Fourth Amendment means something, or it does not!
Multiple elements are coming together now for the surveillance and control state.
Big Brother is moving to take complete control of the AI element:
https://amgreatness.com/2025/05/30/whos-programming-the-ai-mr-president/
We like to believe that the Bill of Rights will protect us. What happens when that is taken away due to “wartime necessity”, if (when?) the US gets involved in a major war?
Or taken away because of a “pandemic emergency”?
Did you think that the conflicts involving Ukraine and Israel were only for the reasons parroted by Mockingbird Media?
Or that the covid plandemic was accidental, and the resulting bio-tyranny framework was “for our protection”, nothing more?
The first overreaching WHO plandemic treaty failed, but the second one has just passed and few noticed it because Trump withdrew from WHO. When the next administration rejoins the WHO, we will see the machination that just occurred: Install Trump, pass WHO plandemic treaty, install next administration which adopts it. And yes, it includes Big Brother surveillance and control measures, including measures targeting “misinformation” (dissent).
Everything seems to be converging for the coming “multi-polar global governance”.
HIS TITLE IS “PRESIDENT TRUMP ” new York SCUMS!
Well this is good news.
The devil we’re going to know, is taking the power from the devil we already know.
Interesting times.
So we are basically stuck between pain levels. We have experienced a taste of the pain one devil really wants to assert upon us and there in the wings is the progressing nicely, devil that we hope isn’t going to hurt us as much.
Are we winning???
You can’t stop this train from rolling down this track.
We as a nation have already set off a series of events that won’t stop until the destruction of the digital age.
Frank Herbert’s concept of the “Butlerian Jihad” against sentient machines in Dune was all too prescient.
The digital age is alive and well and will not be destroyed. It is the greatest tool government and society have ever devised. OUR problem is to ensure that the tools provided digitally are for our benefit and not our destruction.
And in the event power changes hands, what prevents the new bosses from retooling the system? Or AI from rewriting itself?
The phony economy of digital illusions replaced the real economy of taking stuff from the ground and making things from it. We can thank the control freak campus commies of the late 60s who came to power in the early 90s.
Bubba granted license to tech-o-paths to get away with anything they wanted, so long as BigGov reaped the benefits of their digital surveillance control systems.
America was always about liberty. Tech-o-paths have never been about anything but control.
Control. Control. Control. It started with humiliation at the airport. It will end in Armageddon.
Just wait until they impose digital currency. They’ll really have you by the short curlies.
I think too many people will not play that digital game when they first find a purchase “unacceptable.”
The rest of us don’t need that alarming experience.
Get your affairs in order.
Be ready.
Be nasty when there is no other recourse.
Unfortunately, the genie is well out of the bottle.
Holy Cats!
Great article.
Louder, Sundance!
Brings to mind the saying that the only thing wrong with a circle, if you ain’t in it…
F these Crap Weasels.
Perhaps some popular songs, movies and plays can awaken the public to what is happening to our 4th Amendment.
Sundance warned us all long ago about yhese charlatans.
Because of aggregation criteria, EVERYthing (even an individual innocuous fact) will get a TS security stamp, along with several further Codeword program access restrictions.
One disheartening thing is when I read commentary about AI on line, virtually everybody recites the mantra that they “understand that this is coming anyway, so we need to control it or the Chinese will”.
This isn’t thinking for yourself. Repeating a slogan you’ve been fed it evidence of brainwashing.
I say let the Chinese have it. It’s a massive resource hog that provides little real for those costs compared to what the same resources spent on supporting genuine human endeavors.
The only reason the control freaks prefer AI to people is that computer algorithms don’t get their own ideas or call them out on their stupidity.
Clarion: The goal of the technocrats is to out-China the Chinese.
We hear Kristi Noem talk about how we will need RealID to enter a federal building, and we just blithely accept it.
does this mean I can’t go into a federal court to serve federal jury duty? hmmmmmmmm
Kristi Noem could not come up with the correct definition of “Habeous Corpus” when asked by a congress critter in a recent hearing. Like most of the other top bureaucrats she is there for reasons other than her ability to lead a large organization.
I didn’t. I refuse to get my real ID.
You probably already have and just don’t know it.
How about we need RealID to VOTE?
Lexis-Nexis was saying it out loud a the DOGE “hearings” but nobody was hearing it.
The thing with AI replacing white collar workers is, it can’t.
It will be a shoddy substitute, and you will just have to take it.
AI can’t replace most of the blue-collar workers either and NONE of the people who work off-the-books. I’m not going to worry about AI until YouTube can get their subtitles right.
Notice DOGE didn’t touch the FBI? It was never about efficiency, it was never about “savings”.
Those that fear most are those that have something to fear. Not saying we should be spied upon but, if they are going to spy (and we know they are) then make it for everyone. Of course there are levels of being equal. Not as people but of stations in life. A president should be treated equal to all other presidents. Not so with President Trump. Just like congress individuals. Inside the chamber they are lawmakers. Outside, they are individuals who should be held to the same laws as us. That’s just one example. Equal is the naked human.
True, one needs to have a “fatalistic” outlook and live one’s life to the fullest within the bounds of Christian Morality and take each problem as it comes at you.
The interaction between humans, grounded in I/T, is so totally compromised that one needs to essentially ignore it.
No president has been scrutinized to the level of DJT. That is not being “treated equal”.
There are glaring points that need to be added.
FIRST: Microsoft is not listed among the names. Microsoft is not only a major player in AI but is also the major name in: Operating Systems, Middleware, Interfaces, Wrappers and ALL the other “glue software” needed to integrate everything. That means the back doors to every thing … to include access to I/T defended by faux security blankets like VPN.
SECOND: Export Licenses, especially with China Inc., G7 nations, BRICS Nations, et al held by every name mentioned in this article to include: Microsoft.
THIRD: It is ALL hardware independent.
FOURTH: There is not a single APP immune and that is not interfaced to the “SYSTEM” emerging. That “interface” and associated software is the backdoor.
There is a bigger “GLOBAL” orientation to this that should send shivers down everyone’s spine.
What makes you think the new tech moguls intend to allow the old tech even a seat at the table? Literally everyone hates Microsoft. If they present a viable alternative it will go the way of other forgotten tech companies. I doubt anyone likes Bill Gates, so it won’t hurt anyone’s feelings if he’s gone.
The control grid along with their cutouts for the elites will be adopted completely without any protections. We now have an approximate 79% literacy rate in the U.S. A very large percentage of that group read at about the sixth grade level. We are a very weak country and are easily controlled by foreign interests. The elites’ AI control grid needs are why nuclear power is OK now. In contrast China has about a 98% literacy rate and Russia has about a 99% literacy rate.
The foreign rulers of the U.S. will pull out all of the stops to maintain hegemony. That begins with complete control over the U.S. populace. No opposition will be tolerated. All of the anti free speech proposals will most likely be implemented by an enthusiastic Congress. After all they work for them and not us.
I disagree, there will be no cut outs.
If there is one common element that says EVERYBODY will have their stuff collected … it is the human nature of mistrust among the maters at ALL levels.
Think of as the MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) condition that will exist because in the end … humans are the ones controlling the system and at its various levels of instantiation.
Besides MAD, there will always be some dissatisfied Human in the loop who wants more control and information is the key to moving up the food chain to the Apex.
Well I will believe it when I see the likes of the Rothchilds, Soros, Albert Bourla or Larry Fink held accountable for their myriad crimes against humanity.
Au Contraire, Mi Amigo. Cut-outs existed in the past, they exist now, and they will exist in the future. Think about it; what would YOU do if you controlled the entire government?
Digital currency will be a prime control mechanism. Wonder if there will be a Black Market in false identities or cutouts? Remember in Max Headroom there was a community of outsiders called Blanks?
Yes. To go along with the digital currency they will steal most people’s wealth. The laws, as they are on the books now, describe your real property equity as being a bank/financial institution asset. This as long as there is a mortgage no matter how small. In other words when the financial institution becomes insolvent the first payees are those backing the institutions. They get paid first and they will be paid with the real property of mortgage holders. The fact that you only owe $10,000, on a $500,000, home will not matter. They will be paid first.
What do you think will happen to those who own property in fee?
Sundance, a related question that I believe is important. Have you run into the issue of the FBI maintaining “Prohibited Access” files that do not turn up in searches (except for the elite few searchers) and therefore lead to Constitutional violations through failure to produce the documents to defendants? This turns out to have been done to President Trump in Jack Smith’s court cases. It would appear that this is still being done by the FBI. Margot Cleveland has an illuminating thread on X. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1928580853245898772.html
Threat posture and technology growth follow their own dynamics. The dynamic is global. It can be managed, to a point.
There are no risk free decisions.
What is needed, and has been largely co-opted, is robust, independent oversight and auditing. Accountable leaders who act with integrity and fealty to the law is a fundamental requirement. Absent these attributes, it doesn’t really matter how pervasive a technology becomes. Track a problem to its first causes.
The Tholian Web surveillance state is being weaved around us all.
When its complete there will be no escape.
Creating another FakeBook, META, or Goggle scenario where citizens are the easily manipulated product..
If the above is true and I believe Sundance only writes the truth, this may be the last time Americans have a chance to stop the steamroller that has been dismantling our Constitution since World War II. What is at issue is that if any part of our government is allowed to keep secrets from the people, it functions outside of our Constitutional framework. It was made legal by the National Security Act of 1947, but the CIA, and the OSS before it, started the process of destroying the sovereignty of we the people. Once we the people are no longer sovereign, but a federal agency is sovereign over us, that is the beginning of the end of our republic.
What has resulted from the IC having stolen our sovereignty from us? Hundreds of assassinations of foreign leaders and the assassination of JFK, RFK, and the attempted assassinations of Donald Trump. Hundreds of thousands of lives lost in Laos, Cambodia, and Thailand, as well as during the Vietnam war. And as if that were not enough destruction around the world, including election rigging, destabilization of many governments, and insertion of puppet dictators so US corporations could extract natural resource wealth from many countries, there was 9-11, which is now viewed as one more false flag event which resulted in the Patriot Act and the decision to use the national security apparatus against Americans, not just foreign so-called terrorists.
It is important to note that when the “supercomputer” program the NSA uses was put in place, those who developed it offered it to the government with the ability to screen out the names of American citizens. Under George Bush, Jr. (the son of a former Director of the CIA) and General Michael Hayden, the answer came back: “The names of Americans must not be screened out.”
This is as at the same time President Bush went on TV (old videos of his stating this which I have seen recently) to assert that it was only going to be used to find foreign terrorists, and no Americans would be targeted. Then Clapper testified in a bold faced lie to Congress that no American data was accessed by the NSA.
Now since Obama we know how bad the system can be, because if any President wants to use these supercomputers to access information on any American, including political opponents, it is not only possible but has already happened, in the case of Donald Trump.
We also have a Republican Speaker of the House who started off as being against renewing FISA and who was brought into a SCIF and when he emerged, he was in favor of renewing FISA.
There is no end to what the government can or will do using the excuse of “a danger to national security.” In addition, the CIA can use the “State Secrets” issue to prevent any employee, no matter how justified, in consulting with an attorney if an employee workplace issue arises.
We are being boxed in increasingly, by one government after another, no matter whether the president is democrat or republican, so that our every move is potentially tracked and could be used against us, no matter how innocent we might be, because various government agencies have begun to use Ai for “pre-crime” determination.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2025/05/no_author/the-algocracy-agenda-how-ai-and-the-deep-state-are-digitizing-tyranny/
But more and more of us are aware of the truth of what the CIA and the intelligence agencies have done to our freedom and liberties, and the more we know, the more we can tell that these agencies and the use of Ai can and will be used to deprive us further.
The one thing I think of is that a government that needs increasing surveillance over its people is not a strong government, it is a weak government.
In addition, governments that use surveillance and stealth to destroy their people’s liberty, end up falling eventually.
Just think about the Soviet Union for example. The reason the Soviet Union fell is that no one wanted to support it anymore. In East Germany, there were so many informants to the Stasi, everyone knew about it and them. In the end, these governments became a subject of ridicule.
That is how governments fall. They expose enough of their hand that the people realize what they have in mind, and they lose more and more support until the facade crumbles.
We are living through a time when exposures of these totalitarian efforts are coming thick and fast. It is upon us as citizens to do everything in our power to wake the whole country up to the dangers hiding in plain sight of government agencies, much as I support President Trump, that is increasingly resorting to Orwellian tactics to box us in by smartphones, smart appliances, smart cars, etc. so that there is no escape or liberty left.
If we cannot change the CIA and the surveillance state by ourselves, we can publicize the reality of their history and their plans for the future, and by exposure the support for the surveillance state will eventually dwindle and die. We must in the end do what we can and join with members of our military who are patriots, along with the patriots who might actually work within the CIA and IC to see that the surveillance state is brought down.
It is interesting to note that at any point in time, there are an estimated 4 million Americans who have access to either top secret or highly classified documents.*
*Twilight of the Shadow Government, Epilogue, Kevin Shipp and Kent Heckenlively, JD
Sterling, absolutely EXCELLENT comment. Thank you.
I don’t want a surveillance state, but such tools are absolutely going to be developed, period. It is inescapable. So, if such tools must exist, then at least they’re coming to fruition under the pro-America Trump administration. If some god-awful turd like Biden or Hillary was in charge, then I’d tell you to look out for the upcoming systematic persecution of right-wingers, white people, and Christians. With the Trump admin able to set some ground rules early on like this, maybe such communist-level persecution can be avoided for the foreseeable future.
As evidenced by the last four months of DOGE revelations, the only way we’re ever going to get a handle on where our money is going is to get all these govt systems talking to identify and eliminate the fraud, waste, and abuse that happens every minute of every day.
The problem, as y’all are well aware, is how to do that without weaponizing it against us.
As with everything, the system is only as good as the people in it. To paraphrase Gunny Hartman from the film, “Full Metal Jacket:”
“The system is only a tool. It is a hard heart that weaponizes it against us.”
Our collective experience with the Patriot Act should be a warning of where all this is headed. I personally feel marginally safer with a republican in the White House because the republicans are so inept, but the next time we get a president like 0bama, there will be trouble.
“…the only way we’re ever going to get a handle on where our money is going is to get all these govt systems talking to identify and eliminate the fraud, waste, and abuse…”
So, why the is the biggest abuse, the military, exempted? Willy Sutton spins in his grave.
Oh, well. The next champion of the people will be the one who can put the cat back into the bag.
Don’t credit reporting agencies already exist? There are three big nationwide providers of consumer reports: Equifax, TransUnion, and Experian. Their reports contain information about your payment history, how much credit you have and use, and other inquiries and information.
I have heard you may have to use evil to defeat evil. As long as we retain control…..but control itself is impossible.
And what of our newfound activist judicial royalty? When they dictate who and what shall be infringed who is left to stop them from hijacking history? The confluence of power is unsettling. I trust that PDJT understands the stakes, but not those that surround him. When he is done what then?
Christoforou reported as one of the items today that Trump himself signed an Executive Order in March 2025 to further integrated data across government databases. What could be construed as “another step in the advancement of the surveillance state”. Palantir was the company signed up to do this.
This Executive Order issuesdby Trump specifically to build out Government Database / Surveillance goes to show that on topic of Surveillance state, the Red team is not that much better than the Blue team.
Even if you think that “Oh Trump is just building it he will never use it against US citizens”, then isnt it reasonable to also say the same thing will happen as with the Intelligence / DHS and Obama weaponizing. Whatever Trump builds now has a high chance of being weaponized in 3,5 or 8 years by someone you might not like that much as Trump.
I also have not heard Trump about rescinding or stopping any Digital Currency initiatives by the Federal Reserve.
Have you?
It shows me that no matter who is elected you still get the same Think Tank global control policies down your throat and the only thing that changes is the person holding the pen, not the content of the documents signed. But that one is able to make a better show and story of it, than the other.
I can recommend watching Brian Berletics videos of The New Atlas, I found he puts a lot of puzzle pieces into place.