In one of President Trump’s best speeches he asked made the following statement: “This election will determine whether we are a free nation, or whether we have only the illusion of Democracy but are in fact controlled by a small handful of global special interests rigging the system. This is not just conspiracy but reality, you know it and I know it.”

Ten years later and there is more evidence of the illusion of democracy than a free nation.  The latest example comes in the form of CNN’s Dana Bash defending the right of illegal aliens to destroy our nation.   Video and Transcript Below:

[Transcript] – Dana Bash: Here with me now is White House border czar Tom Homan.

Thank you so much for being here this morning, sir.  I want to start with the case of Milo Yiannopoulos. There is a lot we don’t know here. What kind of visa was he under? And did he apply to extend that visa?

TOM HOMAN, WHITE HOUSE BORDER CZAR: Look, it’s my understanding, looking at the Department of Homeland Security press release, that he overstayed his visa. I believe it was a visitor visa, but I’m not sure.

But he overstayed the visa. He was ordered to appear in immigration court. He didn’t show up. The judge ordered him deported. So, once ICE gets an order of deportation from a federal judge, their job is to execute that order, and that’s what they did.  He had his due process, ordered removed by a federal judge, and ICE removed him. It’s that simple.

BASH: Homeland Security said he was arrested Thursday. We understand he was deported the next day. That seems like a pretty quick turnaround. Was he given preferential treatment to leave, instead of remaining in an ICE detention facility longer?

HOMAN: No, we have been working steadily the last few months on getting people out quicker, that way to save the taxpayers money in detention space.

The quicker we — once a judge orders them out, rather than being in detention, waiting for travel documents and flight arrangements, we — ICE, along with the CBP and Department of Homeland Security, working really good on the efficiencies of the removal process.

Get them out quick, open those beds up for more detainees to be held.

BASH: So that’s standard now, or that’s the goal? HOMAN: We track the average length of stay, and we want to get the average length of stay, average length of stay in detention down. We want to execute those orders as soon as we can get them.

BASH: Laura Loomer, who is a Trump ally, far right political activist, said she tipped ICE off to his illegal status. Is that true?

HOMAN: Well, several — a lot of people tipped ICE off. There are a lot of people who’s calling ICE, and she says she’s one of them. She probably was.

But bottom line is, it doesn’t matter. He was ordered removed by an immigration judge, and ICE’s job it to execute that order.

BASH: This is someone who had publicly praised immigration crackdowns, and yet Homeland Security chose to publicly publicize his arrest, rather — put a rather unflattering mug shot out there, and wrote that, “He chose to overstay his welcome in violation of our nation’s laws,” and warned other immigrants to take control of their departure by self-deporting.

Did the Trump administration choose to make an example out of him to send a message?

HOMAN: We don’t deport people based on political affiliation.

Again, as soon as we get an order removal, our goal is remove them as quick as possible, regardless of who they are.

BASH: Right. I’m not talking about the deportation. I’m talking about the publicizing of it, the way that it was put out there. You don’t put public — press releases out about everybody you deport.

HOMAN: Well, I think the press release is in response to press inquiries.

Again, I don’t work at the Department of Homeland Security, but I saw the press release. I think it was based on press inquiries.

BASH: OK, let me turn to a “New York Times” story out this morning, an account of 10 deportees who said they experienced or witnessed abusive or violent treatment by ICE officers.

When some resisted deboarding a plane in Liberia, a country they had no ties to, they said they were — quote — “forced onto the tarmac by ICE officers, who yanked and twisted their handcuffs, pinned them to the ground and pressed their knees directly onto their necks.” Another said: “They treated us like we were wild animals, like beasts.”

Are you comfortable with this treatment?

HOMAN: No, and I don’t — I don’t — yes, I don’t think that treatment occurred. It will be investigated, but we get allegations a lot. Every law

enforcement agency in this country gets allegation of mistreatment. But, look, we know that threats against ICE officers are up over 9000 percent. Actual attacks are up for 1400 percent.

So, ICE officers are trying to protect themselves while enforcing the law. A lot of people just don’t want to comply with law enforcement. They want to fight. So I don’t know these specific instances, but if they filed a complaint, it will be investigated by internal affairs.

BASH: So, just to be clear, the — what I just described, and there’s a lot more in this “New York Times” really harrowing account, you’re saying this is not standard operating procedure?

HOMAN: No, we use a minimum force required to make an arrestee comply.

So, if someone acted out of line, it will be investigated by internal affairs, but the policy is minimum force necessary to make an arrest or to get compliance of an arrestee.

BASH: So there will be an investigation in internal affairs, and if found that this is accurate, there will be consequences?

HOMAN: I’m sure there will be. I mean, that’s the policy.

I leave that question to the Department of Homeland Security, since they work for the Department of Homeland Security, but that is the policy, yes.

BASH: The Department of Homeland Security sent two deportation flights to Haiti over the past two weeks. Haiti is a country that a Trump administration official this week said is in a dire state, saying that, for months, terrorist gangs have murdered civilians, terrorized communities, burned homes, and destroyed families.

Why is the Trump administration knowingly sending Haitians, including many who’ve lived in the U.S. legally under Temporary Protected Status, into the danger that they describe?

HOMAN: Again, we’re returning deportees to their home country. Many times, if the home countries don’t accept them, we send them to a third country.

I’m not in the loop on this specific incident, but, again, that’s a question for the Department of Homeland Security. But when people are ordered deported, they can’t stay here. They’re going to go home.

BASH: I understand. You are the border czar, and this is happening because of a policy the Supreme Court held up, but a policy by this administration to end Temporary Protected Status for these Haitians.

And now this administration is sending them back to a country that the administration describes as overrun with gangs and not safe to be.

HOMAN: Well, look, the Temporary Protected Status is supposed to be temporary.

And, as long as I have been around, for over 40 years, it seems like it’s never temporary. It gets extended and extended and extended, even if the conditions in the home country have changed. So this is an order of the court. They were ordered removed, and ICE is removing them.

They’re going home. And if we send them to a third country, we — people would be complaining about that. So ICE did their job. I’m not — again, not involved in the specifics of this, but they lost their DPS status. They’re ordered removed. They have got to go home. They have no status here anymore. They can’t stay here.

BASH: Just you, as the border czar and as a human, do you feel comfortable sending them back to a country, a country of origin perhaps, that your administration is describing as so dire?

HOMAN: Look, bottom line is, they have been ordered removed. And I don’t know the conditions in Haiti. I have never been in Haiti. I don’t know if you have.

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But, look, the judges made a decision they must go home. And they need to go home. I mean, I — I’m not familiar with the country conditions in Haiti. I have never been there, but we’re just enforcing the law. And we’re doing it in a way that the American people voted for.

President Trump’s the president of the United States because he promised to enforce immigration law, and that’s exactly what we’re doing. We’re sending a message to the whole world. The border is no longer open. You can’t come here for a free pass and expect to stay forever if you’re here illegally.

There are millions of people standing in line wanting to be a part of the greatest nation on Earth. They’re sitting in the back seat because millions of people came across the border illegally under Joe Biden under fraudulent pretenses.

That’s why the Trump administration is taking action. If you’re in the country illegally, we’re looking for you, and we find you, we’re going to remove you.

BASH: Yes, I hear what you’re saying about Haiti. You haven’t been there, I haven’t been there. And I’m just quoting your own ambassador, Jennifer Locetta, who is a representative for special political affairs at the U.N. Those were her quotes.

I want to turn to what’s being reported in Connecticut. Senator Chris Murphy said ICE officers targeted parents at school bus stops this week. He said — quote — “In Danbury, they are just targeting parents sitting at school bus stops just to terrorize little kids.”

Are ICE officers detaining parents at school bus stops?

HOMAN: ICE isn’t in the business of terrorizing children. That’s — that’s just — that’s just political fire.

ICE is out there enforcing law that was enacted by Congress. Then we arrest illegal aliens? Are some parents? I’m sure many are. But we’re not out there to terrorize children. We’re out there to look for illegal aliens with final orders of removal, those who overstayed, those that are criminals, and we’re out there looking for them and arresting them.

ICE has no intention of terrorizing children. That is just a political statement made to enrage the American people. In the last two years, I constantly hear the attacks on ICE and what ICE is doing. They think it’s a winning message to know to vilify ICE.

And I have said for a long time all these hateful words against ICE and what ICE does, that’s a reason assaults against ICE officers are up over 9000 percent, the threats. It — and no other law enforcement agency in the world has that percentage of increase in threats.

And I say most of it is based on hateful writer and mischaracterization what ICE does, just like the Delaney Hall, right? Delaney Hall was a big story. Everybody’s protesting up in Newark on Delaney Hall, said there was a hunger strike.

I went there. There was never a hunger strike. People weren’t eating at the cafeteria, but they’re eating in the commissary. And there — no one was missing medication. They said one person, one father was arrested while buying diapers. No, he was arrested at a jail, and he was there for domestic violence charges.

But all these false stories come out, and people buy off on them.

BASH: Well…

HOMAN: But you notice, when we prove those stories are fake, no one ever covers that. No one ever says, OK, we were wrong. There actually wasn’t a hunger strike. There wasn’t actually mistreatment at that facility.

BASH: Yes, well, that’s literally why we have you on, and we appreciate you coming on. Three detainees did die at that facility.

But I want to stick to bus stops, because I — my question is, even more broadly beyond Connecticut, are bus school stops fair game for a place where parents can be arrested?

HOMAN: Look, we — the ICE policy is — it used to be what we call a sensitive location policy. We don’t have that policy anymore.

But I have pointed out, for the last two years, you — no one can point to one single incidence we arrested anybody in an elementary school. We haven’t arrested anybody in a hospital. We haven’t arrested anybody in the church. ICE is real good at their job.

Now, did they — somebody arrest somebody at a bus stop? I’m not aware of that. But ICE is out there to enforce law those that have been ordered removed by a federal judge. And if the — especially if they’re a criminal or if they’re a national security threat, there’s no safe harbor for them in this country. We will go where we need to go.

But to this day, ICE has not made arrests in one of those three sensitive locations I’m aware of. But you read a lot of stories they have, but no one’s giving me one instance…

BASH: Yes.

HOMAN: … one name, one date where somebody’s arrested at one of those three instances. As far as the school bus, I’m not aware of that incident at all.

(CROSSTALK)

BASH: Will you look into this incident in Connecticut? Because it’s not just the senator. It’s the mayor, it’s the governor who are saying it happened there.

HOMAN: I will — I will make an inquiry to the Department of Homeland Security, yes.

BASH: OK.

Last question. You are a big proponent of body cameras. You said in July that ICE was going to require body cameras and that — and ICE actually subsequently said that every field officer would have one by the end of August. We are at the end of August now. Has that happened?

HOMAN: I don’t know. I know ICE is — the camera purchase was held up when the government was shut down. I mean, there’s millions of dollars to buy those cameras.  I’m a big proponent of cameras…

BASH: I know.

HOMAN: … because the cameras — I want the American people to see what the officer sees when he makes a decision.

Whether it’s a hands-on decision or a shooting incident, I want the American people to see what that officer saw when he took that action. I’m a big proponent. I know they have got the cameras purchased. The last I knew, before I was on the road a few weeks ago, the trainer happened.

That’s where they send trainers to each field office to train somebody on the use of body camera, how to turn them off, when to turn them on, what did we do with the film and keeping the record someplace. That has happened. I know they’re being deployed. Are they 100 percent deployed today? I’m not sure.

But I know the plan was to get them deployed by the end of August, but I do not know if that has been completed yet or not.

BASH: OK. Well, if you find out, get back to us. I appreciate it, and really, I’m grateful to you for joining us this morning, Tom Homan.

HOMAN: All right, thank you.