According to numerous media reports the Minnesota jury has reached a verdict in the trial of former police officer Derek Chauvin. Fourteen days of trial and approximately 9 hours of jury deliberation (last night and this morning). The verdict will be announced momentarily….
UPDATE: 5:06pm ET…. GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS
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Those who follow politics closely know there’s very little chance of a not guilty verdict. Too many political operatives and big interests at stake.
There is no “epidemic” of police shootings against black males.
he who controls the devices we access with our eyes – control the reality.
lumens- light.
This was a RAT Political Show Trial … the Officer is INNOCENT.
Although I think Chauvin was overcharged and railroaded, I wouldn’t call him “innocent” in the moral sense.
Assuming Chauvin is 100% correct through to the first 5 minutes with Floyd on the ground, Chauvin’s actions necessary/reasonable with a fiesty, huge, drugged up gorilla, the last 4 minutes when Floyd is unconscious were disturbing and really need better explanation.
The last 4 minutes are where innocence fades, even if not guilty (on appeal).
Incompetence has nothing to do with a “moral sense.”
Watch the videos you will see more incompetence than any intentional harm brought on by moral degradation. Botched arrest. All of the officers involved look more oblivious to Floyd’s dangerous health condition (middle-aged man addicted to hard drugs and smoking with a serious heart condition).
Morals should be questioned when we have to lock our doors 24-7 from CRIMINALS not the police yet the entire country is taking the side of criminals.
I’m wondering just how immoral our country has become to expect law enforcement to have to bend over backwards for drug addicted criminals resisting arrest.
I don’t disagree but….
I do believe he was overcharged. He contributed to Floyd’s death by not getting the proper medical care to the man when there was ample opportunity (last 4 minutes of video). Chauvin is guilty of negligent homicide or manslaughter not murder.
This is nothing but politics on steroids and the Napolean the pig is getting what he wants- pretty soon only one rule will be on the side of the barn. We are very close to that point now.
The hostile crowd caused this problem. They had more to do with Floyd’s death than Chauvin. The video does not record well what that was really like — anyone who has dealt with that knows it is highly problematic and volatile and that it took his attention needlessly — those people are total scum as we saw with the woman who showed up in a uniform to try and prejudice the trial and actually was forced to admit harassing and threatening– she made the situation much worse of course and contributed to Floyd’s death, she should have been charged — they interfered in what was being done and caused the result in great part. He was doing his job in a very bad situation and got no break — anyone remaining a cop in any of these cities who works in good faith needs to quit — the bums/Leftist tools will then be put in place — which is the plan of course.
The crowd was harrassing him and the other Cops, threatening as the vicious woman was forced to admit… — they were the cause of the extended time Chauvin was holding Floyd and caused great problems, anyone ever dealing with hostile crowds knows they are very bad things — the problem with video is that it does not give a real sense of the tension at a scene and many other factors and people then use it to make false judgments, as was done in this case — this thing of everyone having a camera pointing 24/7 is destroying society along with the lying Globalist NWO Mainslime Media of course which is a cancer.
And there’s this that came up when Harris’ niece started opining on demographics of shootings in a presumptive but evidently inaccurate way:
“At least one legacy media outfit figured out, however painful it was to report (and bury in the middle of the jump), that three quarters of mass shooters are black. That was the New York Times.“
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/the_lie_that_will_not_die_and_the_truth_about_black_mass_shooters.html
When the powers that be choose to deal with the actual criminals — especially the repeat offenders — in a forthright manner, that’s when actual progress may occur, to the benefit and safety of people from every background.
Exactly! Black males between the ages of 12 and 35 make up 5% of the population of the United States and 75% of mass shooters! You got that right, TMonroe!
Daily Mail had an article today about two Black kids in California … 11 years old and 14 years old, went on a crime spree last week…..with a loaded gun.
They held people up at ATMs, robbed convenience stores and tried to hijack several vehicles. They were caught a couple of times, let loose in parents custody, then went out and used a gun again to commit more crimes.
They were caught after an attempted car jacking. Still free….turned over to “parents” again, but the powers that be are thinking of charging the kids.
The last car jacking attempt resulted in one of the kids getting beat up by the driver, while the other kid screamed to the driver to stop because the driver was hurting his crime buddy. Yet they put a gun in people’s faces.
Was that the scrawny twerp that got body slammed and squealed like a stuck pig? He’s a real tough guy. Those two need all the ass whippins they missed when they really were kids AND the interest accrued.
not as long as the Xiden cartel and Fascist Supper Club are in charge.
Good data, thanks
How many of these “unarmed” black males were PCP, methed up or sheer out-of-their-head muscle bound thugs like the Miami Face Eater?
It drives me absolutely Bat-Shit crazy that people don’t know the statistics!!!!!!
BLM, ANTIFA, politicians and the media pushing lies, lies and more lies! How hard is it to do the research, but, no! Just spoon feed the pubic with race pablum…
“There is no ‘epidemic’ of police shootings against black males.”
And the fact that they can get away with that kind of lie as well as the administrative state getting away with the numerous “Gate” scandals against Trump resulting in the seating of an increasingly senile pervert in the WH show what kind of easily manipulated idiocracy we live within. Meanwhile, that idiocracy continues to purchase expensive e-toys from virus-spreading China using debt-based money printed from thin air to such an extent that it creates shipping logjams.
Ok, here’s what I have to say after hearing the rhetoric spewed after Chauvin was charged on all counts including public perception of systemic racial injustice and how the next goal is maximum sentencing as the only reparation for making things just or paid back.
It’s not only the perceived injustices of George Floyd, it’s how Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown etc etc are receiving justice through this case of GF. For those of us who know who the true assailant in those cases was, its jarring, its so unfair…
I’m so galled by their claims of being so galled!
I just can’t repeat all the falsities spewed in press conferences, social media, international media – its agonising…!!!
In my opinion, there is only one way the narrative will be broken and for the reality to set in, and that is for law enforcement to leave or move from the situations that has become impossible to police or too risky for their lives and families.
I suggest they Quit or Request Transfer to any peaceful community – Alaska, fly over, any small town – just leave! !!!
Just get out of urban problem areas!!
Apparently (sarc) there is an army of BLM activists who are ready and able to step in and rectify the injustices – I say let them!!!”
You’re not obliged in any way to risk your lives and orphan your children for people who assume you are racist since you’re not a person of colour (obsession with skin colour is the ultimate sign of racism)!
Why risk being put on trial for 40 years by jurors who would not have made a better choice (quite possibly worse!) in the same actual chaotic situation or risk being killed in the line of duty by some drugged criminal coz you were giving them the benefit of the doubt. Just quit!!! Just QUIT!
Hash tag it and quit!!!
For lack of better suggestions:
#I-cant-police-and-stay-alive
#u-police-violence—here-I-cant
#im-out-of-here-this-cant-be-done-according -to-the-law
#prove-to-me-angels-exist-to-do-this
#im-out-of-here-you-fix-it
Somebody suggest a good # tag and start the exodus …
Maybe then …
They will just hire BLM and ANTIFA thugs to be “community” cops and let the REAL persecutions begin.
That’s my point – it might backfire with BLM/ Antifa “community” thugs persecutions – people might (hopefully?) begin to see them for what they really are?
The only problem with waiting until BLM and Antifa replace the police is that we’ll have BLM and Antifa as the police.
Didn’t Obummer want a ”National Civilian Police Force” to replace local police? Oh that wouldn’t be corrupted would it?
That proposal scared me, but he was never asked about. Obama wanted an internal security force just as well funded and armed as the military.
Now that I’ve been posted, I need to emphasise that when I mention “law enforcement” I mean – be you black, white or blue – all officers who wish to uphold the law and and be a positive force in their community- not if you are corrupt or a bully officer – they should stay behind – be you black, white or blue! I have no sympathy for “bad” officers regardless of your skin colour.
I hear Chauvin is corrupt (tax evasions) and has a history of complaints (likely he should have been removed as a police officer) – still – in the case of GF I do not see he displayed excessive force…
I can imagine a bunch of worse situations – Floyd got tasered in the car and died – Floyd fell on his head while fighting the officers out of the car and died (luckily they caught him before he crashed onto the ground) – the officers let up when Floyd subsided on the ground but he died anyway due to the adreneline, blocked heart arteries or fentanyl meth overdose etc (so no compensation) – the officers let up and Floyd recovered, Floyd ran away and got hit by a bus (and died, and no compensation) – Floyd kicked the officer (Lane?) in the jaw breaking his neck and putting the officer in a wheelchair for life and permanently destroying a family – or 6 months later (for the 3rd time) Floyd died of an overdose anyway coz he ingested enough fentanyl to kill a horse when approached by police officers – or the officers released the cuffs and proceeded to apply CPR but some maniac came out of nowhere and shot them all or they and the medics were unable to resuscitate Floyd or the officers got hit by a bus… Thats a lot of IFs that might have happened … and they are actually reasonable to believe could have happened …
What about situations where Floyd might have lived – he did not ingest lethal amounts of drugs – he did not resist and complied – the bystanders did not heckle (but provided assistance in creating a safe environment so either officers or EMT could provide full health services?
FACTS: Floyd, a middle-aged smoker hooked on fentanyl and meth with a serious heart condition was on his way to death. Very few like him ever make it out of their 40s. He would’ve never seen 47. His botched arrest just made it a little sooner. But it was coming. If he didn’t have a heart condition he might have made it to his 50s, but with his bad heart he’s lucky he even made it to 46.
@Karina
The real reason Chauvin is now in jail.
I totally agree – so frustrating!
I still think the message from law-abiding officers has to be I QUIT cos I’m damned if I do or damned if I don’t try to apprehend the bad guys (who are f-ing up your neighbourhood)
I would agree a 100% with that sentiment, had Chauvin injected, and forced Floyd to ingest a large lethal cocktail of very dangerous narcotics. A volume of drugs I may add, that frequently kills habitual abusers.
That is a Multinational Corporate fascist objective, don’t wish too hard for a LE stand down. They will eagerly fill the void with “Community” Blackshirts/ Brownshirts. This is their plan.
I’m not suggesting LE flees or abandons all areas, only those where LE is disregarded / disrespected. If they leave Portland, Minneapolis, Chicago and other (democrat-run) areas etc won’t law-abiding people and cops move to other areas and establish safe areas where the law is respected? I don’t get why cops just don’t move! People are moving from Whitmer’s Michigan NY and Cali to places like Florida due to covid restrictions and loss of business opportunities. Why don’t cops move from high-crime and high-scrutiny volatile zones where they risk losing their lives or livelihoods due to impossible demands? Let them fill the void with “Community” Blackshirts/ Brownshirts – see how long Americans, even “liberals” put up with that …
For reference, one actual goal mentioned by this UN London ISD was to protect Islam from Right-Wing Extremists. Live links below.
The US Has Ceded Control of Major Cities to the UN President Obama & AG Lynch introduced this at the UN. It appears we are in the midst of this ongoing implementation of UN precedence over our US Constitution.
Stop the Strong Cities Network! – American Policy Center One view from the time of initiation which describes the goal of the founding organization in the UK, the ISD (Institute for Strategic Dialog). Give this a skim at least.
That city should be abandoned as the ‘No go’ it is. Every NORMAL American citizen of ANY color should abandon these reprobates now. Let them enjoy the Ghetto of their own creation
I wonder where are police recruits going to come from, & indeed, why they’d want the job?
Maybe those who swore to uphold the Constitution against all enemies, foreign & domestic, but don’t, are the resource pool.
All kinds of ways for honest people to lose, & no way to win!
Newsmax Greg Kelley supports the verdict. Glad I deleted that app.
On all three counts which are contradictory.
Exactly. You’d think it would trigger some sort of cognitive dissonance in Mr. Kelly?, but no.
yes, seems only OAN is reliable now,
Thanks! I will download that app. Happy to pay for a subscription, as I think it’s subscription based? (And I would be happy to pay for a CTH subscription as well, while on the topic).
OANN was ALWAYS the only reliable news channel.
Newsmax TV never got my viewing. I was turned of by Chris Ruddy’s pro-corporate political bias years ago when I visited their website and subscribed to their newsletter for awhile. But they were always pushing financial products on their subscribers that seemed a bit too good to be true. …
Donating thousands to Clinton (Ruddy) is always a giant red flag as well.
Considering the climate we live in right now (hopefully temporary), people need to be careful. Don’t commit a forced error. I don’t think Chauvin killed Floyd but by pinning him down for an extended period of time he set himself up to be a target. Floyd probably would have had his heart attack while standing up with his wrists cuffed behind his back. It’s a shame Chauvin didn’t just let it happen. I’m not blaming Chauvin, he was unlucky, but people need to learn from his misfortune.
The other side has more power right now. Be careful.
On to Kenosha.
Looks like they’ll stop in Columbus on their way to Kenosha. ?
Theres still some cleanup for chicago.
I’m trying to separate the facts of this case, as I know them, from all the total BS from the media and the racist rats.
Seems to me the officer used excessive force for too long. Unfortunately he probably had good reason at first what with a large drugged hostile guy to deal with, but the police are supposed to somehow separate themselves from their human nature and just administer justice per the law. From what I can tell Chauvin could have relented and had the guy hauled off to where he belonged.
All this glory to a drug addicted porn movie criminal whose life apparently wasn’t worth anything even to himself given his overdosing but now he’s some sort of saint of the left. It makes me sick.
He was waiting for the EMT?
I don’t know but since GF died there had to be a point where he could have taken his knee off the perp’s neck.
These cops have to go through so much crap with these lowlifes that I just don’t know how the cops don’t go beserk on a regular basis. Our society has come to the point where it celebrates criminals IF they’re black. We’re at a boiling point – just like the Marxists like it,
Excessive force is a kneel on the shoulder?
Was just asking myself the same thing.
People should try it using a double pillow as a shoulder substitute.
The predominance of the policeman’s weight was on the knee that was on the pavement, not the knee and weight that was on the shoulder.
If the predominance of the weight is on the shoulder (or double pillow), you lose your balance and stability. Chauvin didn’t do that. If the defense did not raise this point, they were grossly remiss of this obvious point.
When I look, America is standing there
I can almost breathe her in like summer in the air
When I look at her, America is touching me
I would reach for her, but who can hold a memory?
America is stuck in the corner of Martin Luther King Boulevard and George Floyd Alley.
America left MLK Blvd years ago. Dr. King would be appalled at the racist garbage pushed daily by the DemoCommunists. It’s totally antithetical to his dream for his children.
But he’d sure love the orgies they have now.
MLK was one helluva swinger!
Fornicators are NOT “reverend”
God picks imperfect men to do His work on Earth. MLK was certainly a sinner. But he delivered a decent and honorable message about racial equality, not CRT or white supremacy or any of that garbage. Just a call to be “skin color-blind”.
I, a sinner, have no place to cast stones on Dr. King. Let those without sin cast stones on him.
Repeat Evil White People! Repent!
Bow to your new Black Overlords!
White People need an Emancipation Proclamation from their Black Royalist Class.
Per Gateway Pundit. Mobs attacking trucks already.
And the ones most likely to hold TV sets and other mechanize.
They got ’em all already – there gonna have to start looting each other’s apartments!
In Florida, they have approved legislation that would absolve a driver continuing on course and if necessary, running over these thugs. Personally, if I were a driver, I wouldn’t need such, because that would be my plan, if I saw a mob approaching my vehicle. Start resurfacing the streets with them, and let’s see how many choose to do this. It will likely stop it or for the ones who have a comprehension problem, they will meet their demise. A win-win
The look of horror on his face as the jury’s verdict was read by the black robed cuck is mute testimony to the realization that he has been in service to a heartless monster for his entire police career.
This is horrible.
Mike Savage says we are already into the second Civil War.
Michael Savage is on drugs. If we WERE in a Civil War, this crap would not be happening. Leftists, Democrats and ALL their enablers, supporters, promoters, defenders and benefactors would be leaving this country like rats on a burning ship; or swinging from trees and lamp posts at the end of a rope–or worse.
What we are in is a mop-up operation by the left sweeping the nation of their ‘perceived’ enemies. We’ve already lost the war….we just refuse to accept reality.
https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1285658304937689088
Living in northern Minnesota where liberalism is a virtue, I’ve found it very interesting to hear leftists talking about this trial over the past two weeks.
When the closing statements were made and people learned via live TV what really happened before George died, they were shocked. They wanted to know “WHY?!” they weren’t told the truth about what happened!
Today one leftist friend called just to tell me the verdict would be announced in a couple hours. She was extremely concerned about what the verdict would be — after just learning that Georgie wasn’t the saint they’d portrayed him to be.
That same friend called a couple hours later and all she said was, “Guilty on all three counts.”
She was heartbroken, and I am hoping this situation has shown her what useless scum the “media” is.
Liberalism a virtue.
The Range passed liberal 100 + years ago and went straight to socialism. Bet your town has a local Socialist Hall even today.
I love “Minnesota Nice” and the beautiful small towns, but I have never met a more naive group of people in my life.
My wife is originally from Hoyt Lakes and Aurora.
You can’t reason a liberal out of an opinion they did not reason themselves into.
For liberals, its ALL about emotion. And emotion is the beach upon which reason dies.
How the Left repeatedly jeopardized Chauvin’s trial: Biden and Rep Omar said the white cop was guilty before verdict was delivered despite judge warning Dems to STOP talking about case
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9491079/How-Left-repeatedly-tried-derail-Chauvins-trial.html
…does the tactic ring familiar to what was publicly messaged by a pres.
prior to a SC ruling, 9 years ago, on obamacare?
…the mandate was used to sell and narrowly pass the legislation to gather votes (avoided the ‘tax’ word)
after that, years later,
…then the mandate was called a tax during arguments with the SC. (what?)
On Thursday June 28, 2012 the US Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in a 5-4 ruling. The majority opinion was written by Chief Justice John Roberts and joined by Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan. Justices Samuel Alito, Anthony Kennedy, Antonin Scalia, and Clarence Thomas dissented.
p.s.
seeing some truth being revealed, is good both here,
and http://www.lindelltv.com
Let it grow…
Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
We are at a point in America when not just 3 months ago a president was *impeached* for telling protesters to ‘peacefully’ make their voices heard, but now we have top Democratic figures — Obama, Biden, AOC, Tlaib, Waters — doing their worst to incite race riots. It’s astounding.
9:33 PM · Apr 20, 2021·
The hypocrisy is no longer surprising. The left can do whatever it wants because they know the gutless GOP has no guts to stop them, and the few people on the left who do have a conscience and know what the Democrat Party is doing to the country is wrong, are too afraid to speak up for fear of personal and professional retribution. The American left is turning out to be the greatest enemy this country has ever faced!
Most of us are already convinced that there is only a Uniparty; GOP means nothing for the most part.
Don’t expect them to rise up and do anything to stop it.
We don’t have the number of conservatives required to make a difference. Also, the dem fascists
control all branches of government by whatever means possible.
Furthermore – I’m no attorney, but I’m pretty sure the laundry list of murder charges is not “all of the above.” If he’s guilty of one then he can’t be guilty of the others. The lesser charges preclude the greater charges.
The dude died of an OD. He was dying before he was put in the cop car. Before he threw himself on the ground. Before he had to be restrained on the ground.
four words
beyond a reasonable doubt.
I watched the entire trial
some multiples times.
the prosecutors did not prove his guilt…not on any of the charges.
the defense DID provided accurate and true information that strongly demonstrated chauvins actions was not the contributing action for cause of death.
this established reasonable doubt to anyone watching the trial and the facts established.
this trial was a disaster.
I am anxious to hear how this judge will respond and what actions he will take. the judge is directly aware of this result, the complications of the influence of politics, the threats of violent mobs, and the fraud result that punted reasonable doubt.
this case is not over.
it’s a given this goes to appeal.
but first, I would like to see this judge take some sober action.
The prosecution did NOT have to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
All they had to prove was the cop is white and the dead guy is black.
Nothing else matters and no doubt it never will in the future.
Every black thug in the nation believes they just got a free “Stay out of Jail Card” based on skin color.
Arm yourselves Patriots – this is only the beginning.
I do not believe the police pension systems are funded enough to support all the police retirements soon to happen – probably starting tomorrow.
This also happened about a year ago.
Not seeing much media coverage. (as it should be, so as to avoid tainting the jury)
(but, is it because a true story does not match the hidden, divisive, marxist, media narrative(s) (in the interest of mis-controlling people and / or their mis-opinions) ?
What do you say, Ms. Waters? (Ans. selective silence … no plane ticket…))
hmmm….
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/us/st-louis-man-arrested-shooting-retired-police-officer-david-dorn/index.html
One of the taints to the jury was the city awarding the family millions of dollars.
It will be a continuing “matter” until the judiciary starts supporting law enforcement……….or
ourthe revolution begins………………..This jury was intimidated and scared to do the right thing in this case. That POS Maxine Waters and the rest of the left made sure they got the message that they had to return a guilty verdict or else they and the rest of America were going to suffer.
It was so obvious that Chauvinist both voluntarily and involuntarily murdered Floyd, that the jury had to convict him of both or risk living in the witness protection program for life.
Do you have your St. Fentanyl idol yet? If not, you can get one for three easy installments of $74.99 sent to your local BLM chapter. All checks written to cash. Roaming groups of peaceful protesters will be conducting random checks. Don’t forget, if St. Fentantyl were still alive, he’d get the vaccine.
And don’t forget that immediately after Floyd’s death was reported and BLM was activated, MAJOR CORPORATIONS started to commit millions of donations to BLM. Probably many of the same corporations declaring a boycott of Georgia due to voter reform legislation.
Corporations are not your friends.
did Xiden call off the riots?
Nanzi said time out.
So sad, even people on this forum have no facts, are pawns of the media. We are doomed as a country if people don’t know enough to at least get the truth somewhere……..
OY
If you think there are no facts here, the obvious question is, why are you here?
This verdict didnt surprise me, and I mostly expected it. George Floyd was no saint, and prior to this incident, Chauvin had several prior complaints lodged against him which all of the Minneapolis & MN marxist governing bodies didnt do a thing about.
What does concern me is all of the talk by the marxists about reforming police after the verdict, and passing the sacred George Floyd law. I havent looked into this law, but these insane blanket proposals are very bad for towns that dont have this problem like mine. The real problems lie in the BIG blue cities where a vast majority of these incidents happen, and the keys to the problems are the marxists who head up each of those departments.
DEMS are the problem, but they dont want to admit it. They just want to throw a blanket on it and blame it on the elusive white supremacists that seem to be hiding behind every tree. I believe the critical race theory will be the first addition that the feds will try to force on the locals, then diversity hires, and downhill from there. Federal funding will be the carrot on the stick to force compliance.
Much of this comes from the reports issued by Obama’s “Taskforce For 21st Century Policing”. The policies set forth therein come from BLM’s Deray McKesson and CAIR, among others.
I didn’t know he had a history of complaints. That is a real problem. The police force should have put him on leave and ordered counseling. If no improvement, resignation should have been forced.
Other people here also do not know if Chauvin had a history of complaints either. That is stuff that has been passed around in BS stories that have no evidence that it is true. If it had any historic affirmation it would have come up in the trial, or it had no effect on the events leading up to the death of GF and could not be included in evidence in the trial. It is just a wild hare to chase.
Chauvin did not take the stand possibly because the prosecution would have been allowed to bring up his history, whatever that may have been. It was widely discussed on local news but no details given.
…and who issued the complaints? Criminals in the community? Probably!
I suspect most police officers have some history of complaints. Complaints and lawsuits by the nut jobs they are either trying to protect or protecting the population from the nut jobs themselves.
Prior history of complaints have nothing to do with this specific incidence. If there was a complaint, it had only to do with that specific incidence and none others. Most judges will disallow historical stories of complaints because they are not germane to the trial issue at hand.
A couple of complaints doesn’t mean the guy can’t do his job well.
And these idiot mayors and councils were elected using Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) that is coming to all your neighborhoods if the left gets it’s way.
The corruption of the US justice system is beyond belief.
Where else in the world are jurors names RELEASED to the public by the system?
That’s a jailable offence in UK/Australia/ NZ.
In this case the jurors knew that was going to happen while the trial was in progress!
That’s a straight up coercion of the jury to give the “correct” verdict, no question.
The judge all but told the defense what the verdict would be. Waters should be charged with jury tampering.
Poor guy. So much injustice. We are being ruled by mob, zealots and terrorists.
It was inevitable that there would be a guilty verdict.Once again these leftards have won.If I was a cop,I would run a mile as soon as someone broke the law.These government officials will never have the spine to stand up and defend a cop NO MATTER WHAT.
Now we know why the cops in Chicago let them kill themselves.
I’m wondering if the judge in this case will have the courage to set aside the guilty verdicts, the evidence does not support them all. How can he be guilty of crimes that are mutually exclusive? Intentional murder and unintentional manslaughter for the same act? Not possible IMO, but I’m not a lawyer.
What should be a part of this discussion but has not been even mentioned here is the fact that the United States is now a nation under judgment by God Himself. For many years now we have been in the process of murdering over 60 million unborn babies that are part of God’s creation. Many other heinous evils are visited on us day after day in which evil is described as good and many other values are now turned upside down. The leftist in this county and many from the supposed right are deeply involved in actions that are just blatant evil, and now is a time of reckoning. The chickens have come home to roost and are leaving their dropping all over us. Payday someday has not arrived and God has sent a strong delusion upon many in our land who believe lies are truth. Just as God sends rain on the unbelievers just as He does on the righteous, God’s judgement is going to be unpleasant for the righteous ones as well as it will be for the evil ones. Get used to it; we will be under judgment for several more years before the Redeemer comes again!
“the United States is now a nation under judgment by God Himself.”
Alas, your evidence is void…. correlation with your world view is not causation.
Don’t feel bad, it’s a common error.
Alas for you, your unbelief will not have the last word on this subject, and you should feel very bad even though your lack of wisdom is the most common error.
My question about this interpretation of events is: if America is under judgment, why is it that the people most hostile to God and his Laws are ruling it with impunity while those praying for the nation and keeping the faith get to watch injustice and do nothing but mourn?
The people most hostile to God are not ruling with the total impunity which you seem to believe. They rule in a way that God permits for a time; but He is still in control. It is yet a time for redemption until God’s patience plays out. While I admire those who pray for our nation, I think it is more fruitful to pray for individuals, but without a massive national spiritual revival the time for making America great again is probably past. As I previously stated, the chickens have come home to roost, and the massive sin, that is evident to those with spiritual perception, will inevitably bring the resulting judgment to pass and the chaos we are seeing is just the beginning.
Even if they crucified Chauvin on a cross on Appian Way it will not make George Floyd noble or honorable. Middle-aged drug addicts who smoke cigarettes with heart conditions rarely live past their 40s.
In any case, the botched arrest wasn’t racial; that’s the media’s narrative and only the ignorant and easily fooled are falling for that. A shame they still live in circa 1950. Is the MSM still running the Rodney King beating on a loop and clips of Toby in chains from ROOTS? Whipping up Americans into a frenzy over race.
I believe that police officers should be given GREAT latitude in these situations irrespective of the color of the person they put into custody. Police Officers are put into situations that most of us will never have to deal with and they have to make quick life or death decisions. In a way they are kind of like doctors or surgeons making decisions that could prove life altering.
Having said that I watched the video and believe the jury came to the right decision. I wouldn’t come to that decision for the rookie cops that were with him at the scene.
I also agree with those down thread who say there is no “epidemic”.
So much evil afoot! Please, Lord, keep this policeman safe. Why would anyone be a cop in Minneapolis after this!?
It’s done, it’s over. just STOP Pelosi, Harris and Biden from DUNKING….WE/USA don’t need a replay, play -by-play from them and NO blacks are NOT gunned down everyday in the USA.
Floyd’s death has turned the USA at least 30-40 degrees AWAY from common sense, being agreeable to disagree, full 100% cancel culture and the premise ALL whites are privileged and must PAY to BLM, ANTIFA, blacks with their lives, souls, businesses, dollars, etc.
And I don’t think Chauvin was innocent; not by a long shot. But the world didnt’ have to change. He was likely going to be convicted and the world didn’t have to burn, be looted, murdered, etc.
The Junta’s knee is on the neck of every single American right now.
It is pressing down harder with each passing hour.
Pro-2A activist Maj Toure has the best response to the Derek Chauvin verdict. Listen:
There is supposed to be a separation of powers between the judicial, legislative and executive branches of both the state and federal agencies.
The blurring of that built in intent of separate powers occurred prior to the 2012 SC 5-4 decision to uphold the Obama care mandate (not sold as a tax to get it passed by legislature, then sold as a tax at SC ).
As such, that incident and others of a similar vein that mis-influence or leverage inequities ( politician$ verbally or otherwise getting in the way of justice )
upon people is harmful to we the peoples normal pursuits of happiness and lawful due process towards equal justice for all….
The US government handing out (c-virus?) money to states and a city handing out money to a family before a legal trial looks to be pre- meddling or prejudicing with due process, justice.
We have done better in prior years and can again with the fortitude and virtue of seeking and sharing whole truths ( not narrow or biased or mis-hyped perspective of mis-reality).
We have done better..
We can do better.
We should do better.
( quiet foreign influence$ and selfish, oppressive mis- ideology ( marxist) and interferences on separation of powers are a huge hindrance upon somes morality… see the background of some elections for another sample)
Imho
Faith and good works…
Love thy neighbors
Then: “… a grand jury would ‘indict a ham sandwich,’ if that’s what you wanted.”
Now: A jury would convict a loaf of white bread if that’s what you wanted.
Flying at 30k feet, one can see the desire to create chaos and divide our Country.
Facts don’t matter, false narratives are never corrected and criminals are held up as heroes while those we make swear to uphold laws and protect and serve cannot take actions against those who do not cooperate?
Lawful citizens will become vigilantes or form their own communities and laws.
Until the military comes.
I have learned from a health care professional, that, when a suspect is suffering from a life-threatening condition, he has no legal obligation to inform the authorities of any factors that got him to that condition. (I welcome confirmation of that). It would seem reasonable that, if someone is dying, they ought to tell the cops and/or ems something along these lines: “I mixed alcohol with my medicine” or “I just took some meth.” In a life-threatening situation, the authorities would welcome anything to narrow the scope of possibilities. Otherwise, they are frantically scrambling to try things randomly. It is unfair that the cops only heard “I can’t breathe,” while GF resisted arrest and pushed himself out of the vehicle (to the ground). I wish there were laws requiring patient compliance in an emergency. Yet, I have heard no one mention this issue.
Chauvin guilty on all counts. Maxine Waters & US President cross dangerous line
What I don’t get is how a jury can say “unintentional” manslaughter but also “intentional” murder. You can’t have it both ways, can you? And only 10 hours to review and debate 3 major charges? Like all the things the left touches it is likely someone on the jury scammed their way in to conduct another false narrative and convinced the rest of the jury. I would bet anything that one of them trying to get a book deal will blabber something. Can’t remember which trial but wasn’t there a democrat activist on some jury not too long ago that bullied the rest of them and bragged about it?
I think the multiple, overlapping verdicts are intended to make appeals more difficult.
Mob rule
Having just watched the Geo. Floyd arrest body cam video for the first time, Floyd left the police little choice . . . he was completely uncooperative and posed a danger to himself as well as the officers trying to control him. What we have in the Chauvin verdict is nothing short of ex post facto law . . . heretofore lawful police conduct is ruled criminal activity . . . this cannot and it will not stand. If you have never watched this, be warned, it is distressing.
Minneapolis police will be resigning en-masse and the city will devolve into chaos and misery. Thank Ranked Choice voting for one reason. I will not go anywhere near Minneapolis for the foreseeable future. I did enjoy Kramarczuk’s, Surdyks, the farmers market, and an excellent stained glass supply store, but no more.
All the liberals who even think about moving out should stay the F in their own S hole. I hope they like what they have wrought. Ranked choice voting brought in the clown council and the soy boy mayor and that horrible voting method is coming to a town near you. They think it is so nice to have so many idiots on the ballot but all it does is take votes away from any respectable candidate and favor the fringe freaks.
Cripes. Listening to this verdict makes it seem like Derek Chauvin killed that dope fiend SEVERAL times.
I don’t like this system that lets prosecutors make MULTIPLE charges for the same act.
Why not tell the jury: “You may convict the defendant on one charge only, and that should be the most severe one you find him guilty of, as described by statutes.“?
Why even police the neighborhoods that don’t want to be policed? These neighborhoods are called blighted for a reason. The residents clearly prefer to live in lawless no-go war zones aka s-holes so make it official.
Save money and let them keep on killing, raping and robbing each other, they seem to prefer it this way. No 911 calls, no patrolling police cars, no nothing. Set the barricade around the perimeter to keep ferals inside, allow the few sane ones to flee/relocate and send the police to the more civilized areas where their service is appreciated. Win win.