According to numerous media reports the Minnesota jury has reached a verdict in the trial of former police officer Derek Chauvin. Fourteen days of trial and approximately 9 hours of jury deliberation (last night and this morning). The verdict will be announced momentarily….
UPDATE: 5:06pm ET…. GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS
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Those who follow politics closely know there’s very little chance of a not guilty verdict. Too many political operatives and big interests at stake.
Wow.
I dunno – anything less than “Guilty” would incite riots and they sure do love riots.
Even “Guilty On All Charges” will incite riots
These animals are going to tear up stuff, burn and loot no matter WHAT the verdict is
They’ve literally had WEEKS of media-fed, Democrat-led, and racist-initiated provocation building up a rage that has to go somewhere
And it’s coming out one way or another, no matter the verdict
They will riot regardless
Apparently the MSP has been very busy along with busses bringing in rioters. These people are insane. Why do they walk among us?
They wouldn’t “love riots” if they started stacking them up for the morgue.
Did Nike and Apple giving ransom money to BLM save their stores? A guilty verdict will just justify their right to violence.
Money theses 2 companies netted from oppressed and cheap Chinese slave labor is used to pay falsely oppressed minority Americans so they can buy more Apple and Nike products. I know it is a vicious cycle but is it economic of societal?
The “ransom money” won’t make one bit of difference…
They don’t need “justifiction” they are incited, funded and protected by their masters, the demonc rat party & their coconspirators. The ISSUE is never the ISSUE. The ISSUE is always the R E V O LU T I O N…..
They’ll riot anyway. Has nothing to do with Mr. Floyd.
If the verdict is guilty there will be riots because it is proof that the police are biased, dangerous and should be defunded. If the verdict is not guilty there will be riots because the social justice warriors have shown us that the police are biased, dangerous and should be defunded and this is what justice demands.
And if the Dodgers win the Superbowl there will be riots.
No reason needed, really.
I read between 3:30 and 4 local time…not sure if that is central time?
Minnesota is central time zone.
Legal Insurrection says between 4 and 5 eastern time.
Have you been following Andrew Branca’s daily dissection of the trial?
Absolutely fantastic!!
Branca has his own website: the law of self-defense.
I love Legal Insurrection! Such a fantastic site! Professor Jacobson is doing amazing work!!
Can the judge declare a mistrial right after the verdict is read? He suggested that could happen yesterday?
No, the Judge had his chance before trial was over. Not 100% sure an appeal court will give him any standing.
Yes, he would have had to declare a mistrial before the verdict, unless the mistrial was based on jury behavior while arriving at their verdict.
This judge was a coward IMO, to suggest a mistrial for an appeal, when he was the one currently in charge.
Agreed. He was also a coward for refusing to sequester the jury knowing full well the danger to the jurors.
Similar to Roberts being a coward over hearing election suits.
Didn’t this same judge deny a change of venue as well?
Judges have the authority to set aside verdicts.
and to suspend sentences.
will he?
I dunno
but this trial goes to appeal for sure
for dozens of reasons…
nothing about this trial was normal
Poor man.
Never thought this kind of stuff would be happening in this country, let alone happening so often and consistently.
Watch your backs and your fronts everyone. Avoid any entangling disputes of any kind.
Yep OJ goes free, nothing happens to Smollet, and now this! At what point will we say “enough”??? The mayor of Minneapolis has a news conference and throws Chauvin under the bus. How is that allowed? We are not feared. Time to change that!
The African Americans are being used like pawns by BLM and their pay-Masters
Many have finally figured that out, and are speaking up. Believe I just saw a headline that Breyona Taylor’s Mom is one of them. The dems have held these powderkeg cities, , hostage and used them as cash cows, destroying them in unimaginable ways. Innocent kids destroyed by them. BLM have actually made life WORSE for these innocent people caught in the middle of the violence. Their lives don’t matter at all to these violent morons destroying lives, they SAY matter……… Disgusting
The only way they are used is because they let it happen.
How else they gonna gets dere free chit.
We have regressed back to the Dark Ages.
pun intended?
I got that!
Even worse…its a mix of feudalism and communism. Taking the absolute worst aspects of each and making a devil’s cake.
and always carry one in the pipe, with at least one spare mag.
If you are white, you need to avoid other races. You are only safe if you avoid any interaction because you can be targeted as a racist at any time. And you have zero right to self defense.
Asians and most Hispanics and Blacks are cool.
It’s the disgusting millennial white SJWs we can’t turn our backs to,
It doesn’t matter. As a white person, you will always be the guilty party if something occurs.
Self hating white SJWs, you know the kind that hold up signs like “I hate white peepo,” should be run head first into a woodchipper.
I disagree. The best course of action is to make friends with the best people of other races.
Based on my experiences, absolutely agree with you Lulu!
I live in an area where the three S’s apply.
Are backhoes allowed?
Unfortunately, it’s not just disputes. I live in Las Vegas and, as you know, we get tourists from everywhere. I’m a petite mid-60’s woman. Since last year, I no longer go anywhere alone. This week alone – even with my husband with me – I’ve been given hateful looks twice. Both times I was sitting in the passenger seat of our car minding my own business. One man was a tourist … the other a local… both young men.
If they all agree he is not guilty it is one thing, however, to decide on a man’s guilt resulting in imprisonment needs more than one day of deliberation.
They were never going to deliberate. Every person on that jury knows if they acquit they and their families face immediate violence – possibly death and the inability to ever hold a job again.
Was the jury sequestered?
How does the public immediately get the IDs of the jurors?
My guess is the propaganda media already has them.
The jury was not sequestered, as I understand, although the defense requested it.
They were completely, totally sequestered. No contact in or out….
In any way.
Except….
They could talk with family.
From a known location.
Within a “Guaranteed” time frame.
On approved devices.
Totally legit.
No, the jury, despite pleas from the defense, was not sequestered. There is NO WAY any judgement against Chauvin will stand, especially in light of the judge’s many requests for politicians not to get involved, and his very strong criticism of MaxiPad’s fomenting of burning, looting, and murder.
The jury will be sequestered as planned only during deliberations, which are expected to begin by April 19.
Supreme Court wouldn’t touch it with someone else’s ten foot pole.
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Generally speaking fast deliberations end up be guilty verdicts.
Never going to happen. He was guilty to the jury from the get go. This is OJ in reverse
Free TVs in 3,2,1…
I laughed out loud. And that’s a pathetic commentary on either my character, or the times in which we now live.
No, it is an observation of a barbaric behavior that only one group in America revels in. Any opportunity to burn, loot, and murder. It is what it is. You can blame the Rats for creating this but in reality, the Rats had plenty to work with.
Most of us on treehouse would be shocked if Chauvin wasn’t found not guilty.
What was the jury out for? It was quick turnaround.
Good comment and I agree, but I will be shocked if some false justice is not imposed. I am certainly shocked that our legal system is now this hosed up.
I will be shocked if he is aquitted.
Absolute Interference….
Just in time to preempt the
WATCHING of…
“Absolute Interference”
@ 4PM & 8PM (Central) on “Frankspeech”
https://frankspeech.com
Biden, Waters, MSM, etc.
Step 1: Incite the mob
Step 2: Appeal for calm during riots.
Step 3: Blame systemic racism and white supremacist cops.
The left would just as soon have the argument over a fair trial.
Step 4: Dementia Joe announces he wants the “right” verdict, just before jurors end deliberation.
If the fake POTUS announcing what he expects a juror to do isn’t intimidation, I don’t know what is.
Aren’t jurors in deliberation kept in a ‘cone of silence’: no contact with the outside world? How would they know about horrid Biden’s remarks?
You really believe they don’t know what the hell is going on?
Rules…what a quaint idea.
How does every leftist nooz organization get access to confidential and classified info from the fed’s?
When I was a juror (2nd degree murder trial), we were instructed to avoid newspapers, radio and tv news, etc., but it’s the honor system when they are not sequestered.
Yes, and think how impossible it is to avoid the news – I often try to avoid it when it is depressing/and or enraging me, and it isn’t possible unless you stay home and turn off all your electronics.
You read the tea leaves….
Isn;t the rule usually a quick verdict indicated, Guilty, a longer time for verdict indicated not guilty or hung jury?
No, there’s no rule in that regard. A fast verdict can mean overwhelming belief in guilt or clear-cut case of legal burden not being met.
Jonathan Turley was just on and said from the perspective of a long-time defense attorney, a shorter deliberation is usually not a good sign for the defense….
I don’t know, that’s just what he said.
I really do not think it matters anymore. I’m waiting for the guillotine in the middle of the city to be erected soon.
History keeps repeating itself.
Andrew Branca from the “law of self-defense” blog said the same thing
See Casey Anthony.
The (so-called) president can declare what the “right verdict” is in a murder trial, while court cases detrimental to his political interests are thrown out without being heard at all.
There is no justice in this country anymore.
BTW, any kind of justice with a qualifier in front of it is not justice.
His head must be off and in about half no time!!!
The brief on appeal has gotten about ten pages longer in the past couple of days….
The grifters and hucksters want a not guilty verdict so they can continue to coerce their shake downs.
shake down of Corporate America. The same Corporate America that demands states restructure their voting laws in leftist libtards favor?
America’s legal system now has all the moral authority of fly excrement.
The jurors will find him guilty so their families won’t be threatened and to keep their homes from being burned down.
The conviction will rightly be thrown out on appeal after the mob disperses.
Likely scenario. Then the conviction getting thrown out will be a good excuse for the next city to burn. We all get to play the “which city will they burn, will it be the one closest to me” lottery every couple months.
Portland is an everyday “winner”.
And it keeps up the lie of the Left that the Justice System is “racist”…they need to keep repeating that until EVERYONE gets the message. How else are they going to force through their Reparations Bill? (BTW – does Kamala have to pay into that since her family owned slaves or does she get to collect on it because she’s a “Woman of Color”? It’s all SOOO confusing!!)
She pays in with her left hand and gathers with her right.
The IRS gets it’s cut in between.
The mobs will not disperse this time.
We just were handed a lifetime of burning, looting, murdering, and constant shouts of racism…even worse than it has been
AMMO UP!
The mobs are revving up in every major city in the US tonight. If they get tired of burning their own communities, and reach out to adjacent suburbs, there will be many deceased former looters and rioters.
If it goes to the Supreme Court remember that John roberts was afraid of riots.
John Roberts might be the most offensive of them all. If he was innocent wouldnt he demand a retraction from Lin Wood. In my mind he is in charge of Americas Justice system and he has betrayed us all. He is the worst kind of traitor
So, more gaslighting.
There’s zero justice in this country. I have zero respect for anyone in law enforcement or any judge or prosecutor. At this point, I assume that most people in prison were railroaded or are political prisoners.
This man had a mock trial it should have been moved, the jurors should have been sequestered, and a mistrial should have been ruled when Maxine opened her mouth.
I agree. I haven’t, for the life of me, been able to understand why this wasn’t given a change of venue?!?!!? If any situation is suited for it, it is this one?
Or, do only non-whites get that option?
I agree with all three points in your last paragraph, but I’d go further: An unbiased AG would have never charged the officer before the medical evidence came in, and would have had no reason to after the autopsy results.
Remember who MN’s AG is. No help there. There is no one visibly in charge of anything in the US right now that isn’t insane.
Stand strong and steadfast. This era is our Normandy.
Methinks: the jury decided it’s better that this man be lynched, even if there’s no reason for it whatsoever, rather than watch the entire nation burn down.
The facts here cannot be denied. Floyd was a Dead Man Walking. He had an aorta just about completely blocked, which meant he was due a triple bypass surgery; he had the China bat virus, and had meth and fentanyl (deadly) in his system.
Pick a health issue, any health issue.
He would have died that day anyways, cop or no cop.
As for the cop, was he negligent? Perhaps. Homicidal? I doubt it. Murderous? No.
But the cop has to be lynched, because the Gods of BLM demand it.
And the nation will burn down anyways.
This is truly the Dark Ages run amok.
At this point even the early middle ages (Dark Ages) was more enlightened that our nation today.
Sadly, yes. Cities will burn and the corrupt administrators of those cities will rake in federal monies to pad their pockets.
I’m very glad I live in an area that is not subject to that sort of lawlessness.
Yet.
I’m sure there will be destruction, whether from riots or celebration. The riot junkies need their fix.
Chauvin needs our prayers. It sickens me what is happening to law abiding citizens and this man was just doing his job. Dear God, please save us soon!
He’ll be lucky not to be dead in prison within a week. See what’s happening to people that were at January 6th protest.
One was beaten and permanently blinded in one eye by prison guards.
And there’s another that never even entered the capital that has been held without bail and denied his cancer treatments while catching COVID.
Chauvin is a dead man walking.
Political prisoners, most of whom are guilty of nothing more than being in a building they weren’t supposed to be in.
Another nail in America’s coffin.
Here’s the bottom line folks –
Whether Fentanyl Floyd would have died from his overdose had the cop not restrained him that way is unknowable and that FACT ALONE constitutes reasonable doubt.
The state did not make it’s case and we can only hope there is at least one juror who can still employ basic logic.
Given the quick finding….I’m not optimistic.
No matter how they come back, shoot to kill looters should be the order of the day.
I’ve been on a jury, and honestly this seems quick to me. We were in longer for a much less important crime.
If the verdict was “not guilty”, I suspect they would have called for the mistrial they had Maxine set up. Gotta keep this going and as long as possible, no? While that depends on them knowing how the jury will vote, given all that’s happened in the last year, a rigged jury seems like child play.
They didn’t need to rig the jury. Who is going to risk their lives and their family’s lives by acquitting? I’m ashamed to say it but I have minor children and would not risk their lives for an unknown man.
I would not have served. I would have to answer that “no, I can’t be fair because of intimidation by murderous mobs.
No rule of law in this country. They will riot and destroy Democrat cites . This whole case has been compromised. The jury in my opinion is scared what will happen with a non guilty verdict . Derek will be found guilty, and the celebration with riots will begin. NG has already been called for several cities
Stay safe Treepers
I don’t care if democrat cities get destroyed.
Me either.
The only problem is the left tard cowards that created this are so afraid now, they move to my state and screw it up.
Oh goody. Now we get more crappy cars with crappy people. No job. No money. But they sure can tell all us locals how we need to live.
Get the insurance adjusters on speed dial.
The smoke is gonna get out in a lot of cities tonight.
Regardless of how this verdict goes down, it’s the looting season.
This fiasco makes me feel very sad, and I thank God my children don’t work in law enforcement.
That’s exactly their goal: to break down morale and public interest in LEO positions so that only their brutal, anti-white thugs will then take the jobs. Then they go hunting for whites.
OR, they don’t take the jobs and just know that they can go hunting without any LEO to stop them.
It is really brilliant, actually, because its a lose-lose for normal people. Who would accept their kids or family to go in to LEO in this environment? That is crazy. However, the resulting loss of LEO structures is also crazy.
Put simply, they’ve already won this battle before most people even realized it was being waged, which is absolutely the best way to fight and win a battle.
great comment
Wife of LEO who is going on 28 years of service with 2 years to retirement and counting the minutes. Two sons 18 and 22 and refused to allow either one to follow in their father’s footsteps. My sleepless nights are two years away and I am not starting all over with my sons! Unfortunately standards have been lowered and law enforcement as we know is gone! God help us all!
Interesting bit of information from Breitbart:
“About the Chauvin Jury: WCCO [local CBS stations] reports none of the jurors had seen the entire tape of George Floyd’s death. They’d only seen clips before the trial.
Jury is 5 men, 7 women. 6 are White, 5 are Black and 2 are multiracial – more diverse than most juries typical of that county.”
I still think the jury will find him guilty of something. Manslaughter would be a compromise verdict, but I suspect that the jurors are so worried about doxxing, threats, vandalism, harassment at home and at work, not to mention physical violence that it would take a brave bunch to come in with “not guilty” verdicts.
The juror’s names will be released in like 5 seconds after the verdict is read. Someone in the prosecutors’ office has already leaked the names I imagine.
Whatever the verdict, the jurors’ names should never be released, and they should be secreted out of the courthouse somehow.
And Donald J. Trump should be in the White House.
The ship has left the barn.
That horse has sailed.
😉 You can’t put that toothpaste back in the bottle!
I agree, but they always are
Unless they own their own businesses their co-workers know who they are and for the right incentives will out them.
If someone from the prosecutor’s office doesn’t do it, the jurors each might have a snitching neighbor who would alert the media that the guy across the street was a juror…
There are a few court staff who have the names, too.
I pray for that jury. Lord have mercy on this nation.
Amen.
I AGREE!! CAN you even imagine serving on that jury?
I naively hope that jurors might actually do their job even in this awful environment in which no person should be required to stand trial.
9hrs and IIRC they did not have replay of something, they had to refer to their notes. I’d never make it on one of these juries – I wouldn’t get picked in the first place.
Did they know what trial they were being questioned for? If so, I am thinking one or more candidates would have thrown up unacceptable answers.
The judge has already stated the verdict is likely to be overturned due to Biden and Waters comments…
Yes, although I wonder by which court. MN has a court of appeals and a supreme court. Then Chauvin can go to federal court by way of habeas corpus, claiming his rights under the US Constitution were violated. He’ll be spending years in jail while this goes on, and most of it in solitary confinement for his own safety.
Meanwhile, riot instigator-in-chief Maxine Waters walks around free as bird.
We have some very serious issues in this world, and as long as demonic creatures like Waters, Pelosi and their ilk walk around sucking in oxygen, those problems will continue to fester.
The liberals overtook education, the courts, big tech. They knew exactly how to destroy this country with no fear of retribution.
Satan protects his own. Notuce how they all live to a ripe old age.
My prediction is guilty on all charges. Why?
Not only does a fast verdict usually indicate a guilty verdict, but especially in this case:
If you had several choices, one of which which might put you and your family in physical danger, and one would just result in a guy you don’t know going to prison, which would be the easier option to choose?
And hence: the faster option?
Especially in this case, hesitation about the verdict would indicate a not guilty finding.
A quick decision, especially in this case, means “We surrender, Burn Loot Murder. Here’s the racial scapegoat you wanted to lynch. Please don’t burn our houses down or kill us.”
Mad Max got her way.
The lesser charges, such as manslaughter, are subsumed into the more serious charge, at least in most states. If one is convicted of murder, that includes manslaughter, and he would serve the sentence for the more serious charge. I doubt this spineless judge is going to give him anything but the max in sentencing.
Burn baby burn…………….. either way
The opportunity zones need some more damage to make them more affordable to the big money. There’s big money to be made off racism.
I think the verdict will be read momentarily
They’ve been talking about heading into the affluent ‘burbs.
Somebody is going to defend their property and somebody is going to get shot.
Then, it’s off to the races.
It’s what the commies want.
Well, they’ve already looted downtown and the poorer neighborhoods. I wonder if the suburban malls are closing up. They would be wise to do so.
Those affluent burbs voted for this and support BLM so they are getting what they said they wanted. I feel bad for little kids in those neighborhoods – adults not so much.
https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/34940
Minneapolis Police dispatch. I don’t hear much yet
I thought verdict was to be read at 3:30 central, now reading that it will be 4.
They have to clear the courthouse and make sure everyone is out of the building except people involved in this trial. Apparently downtown Minneapolis is emptying like there was a blizzard warning.
I already thought it was 4pm. Probably getting some more assets in place
4 pm central.
I wonder if they’ll be able to get anyone to serve on a a jury in the prosecution of the policewomen for the death of Daunte Wright. The mobs won’t go away. They’ve learned that violence works.
Every single media station that has not totally given over to the CCP needs to emphasize that a rush to judgment is nothing but a LYNCHING.
Do we still believe in the Justice system in this country, at all? Not referring to the DOJ obviously; no one sane thinks that they are nonpartisan.
For Waters to say that we need to “Fight for Justice,” I believe that that is exactly what the social justice people have been taught. There is an entire “Social Justice” Building at St. Louis University, and many other places.
If we don’t get away from Justice as a “social” construct for which one needs to go to the street and FIGHT, we will never return to Justice as a legal concept, as an important pillar of Western Civilization.
And to be honest, a lot of these “fighters” don’t act very civilized.
During the 20th century, Democrats held kangaroo courts for blacks often convicting them of crimes where the evidence clearly proved they were innocent. Now, the Democrats are holding kangaroo courts for whites making certain of convicting them of crimes where the evidence clearly proved they were innocent. Our nation is in steep decline, and it has been orchestrated non-stop by Democrats.
And Republicans have been ineffectual. With few exceptions they haven’t served a purpose since the 1860’s.
Chauvin needed a better defense attorney in my opinion. I was not impressed with the guy he had. Hopefully if he gets a new trial he will be able to get a better defense attorney. Hopefully I have to eat my words in a few minutes, but this quick verdict can’t be good.
It’s likely no one would take it except this guy. And he was all alone – the prosecution had about a dozen attorneys, each taking a particular issue (use of force, medical, etc.), and unlimited resources.
The police benevolent fund was paying Chauvin’s bills.
Meanwhile
– From the daily thread
And that was another totally expected conclusion!
She’s got all the boxes checked: Black, female, old.
Play that Black Female Privilege card, Maxipad. Play it, guuuuul! Slay, Queen! Preach!
? ? ? ? ?
Remember this is how they think of “We the People”…
I can no longer consider or think of anyone who votes or calls themselves a Democrat/Communist/Socialist/GOPe(RINO) as Family, Friend or Ally…
You call me and treat me as an enemy…
I hear you and see you…
Of course they did…
Outside the courthouse screaming burn it down
They’ll riot in protest; they’ll riot in celebration. They don’t need a reason any more.
Black Privilege is now even greater than Royalty of old could have dreamed of.
Police snipers should be on top of the buildings ready to fire at the first sign of looting.
Where is Dick Cheney when you need him?
Hahahahahehehehaha
Ya right. In Minneapolis. Sure. What are they going to do, have the Social workers throw water balloons?
Law enforcement should never have allowed the crowd to assemble.
BLM is funded by Jamie Dimon, and other big bankers, Delta, Coke, Amazon, AT&T, Facebook, Twitter, Target, NFL, MLB, LeBron James and Major League Basketball, American Express, CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, Hollywood leftists, etc.
Now that President Biden, Minnesota Governor Walz, and Congress woman Maxine Waters have called for a guilty verdict for Derek Chauvin the jury complied.
In the aftermath of the guilty verdicts BLM activists are riling the crowd using bullhorns. Will BLM burn more cities to the ground? Will BLM financial backers pay for damages?
Hannity is a jackass.
“Those who follow politics closely know there’s very little chance of a not guilty verdict.’
Juries can be unpredictable all it would take is one person like me and it would be a hung jury.
The question is, is it a rigged jury?
Although they are sequestered, I wondered if somehow the jurors got messages that were somehow slipped in: “We know who you are, we know where you live, we know where you work, and we know where your kids go to school…”
Same messages that are probably being sent to the Arizona Senate and auditors.
They were not sequestered.
They weren’t sequestered during the trial, but were during the deliberations. The judge told them on Friday to pack a bag for Monday, hope for a short stay, but be ready for a long one.
Exactly – the jury was sequestered for ONE night.
The jury will be sequestered as planned only during deliberations, which are expected to begin by April 19.
I am wondering about a hung jury – if it was a clear split and the Not Guilty folks said they would absolutely NOT budge, could this be an announcement to that effect. I honestly expect guilty on all charges – the question will be if his attorneys immediately file an appeal based on the threatening, highly prejudicial remarks made by Mad Max.
People like you were screened out in jury selection.
No matter what the verdict will be today, these people will riot because they know they can and not be charged with destroying their town! Why would anyone go into law enforcement after what is happening in our nation today. It is not worth giving up your freedom to protect these people from themselves. This trial was a sham with all the race baiters in town protesting outside the courthouse. Biden and Waters remarks were grounds for a mistrial. Giving the family $27 million during jury selection was wrong. No way could Chauvin have a fair trial in Minneapolis.
EXACTLY RIGHT. THE COP NEVER HAD A CHANCE.
It’s enough to make you wish you could buy tactical nukes at a local store. Get them all in one city and solve a big part of the problem.
Would you like the kiloton model or our new megaton big bang model?
I feel so sorry for this man. I will tell you this. Either way this is the end of good police in the cities. God help America. If you think “so what, I don’t live in a city.”
Of course this will bleed over to everyone.
Like a spill beginning to spread after the glass of red wine gets knocked on the carpet.
Illinois Gov Pritzger called up 125 Nat Guard earlier today