There has been considerable debate and discussion about the next steps for President Trump in contesting the election outcome. According to media reporting on the discussions it appears the White House is listening to several opinions including a group containing Sidney Powell (outside campaign) and a group led by Rudy Giuliani (inside campaign).
Despite the common objective amid the two groups, there have been some stories written by media intended to diminish and/or marginalize the ongoing effort. In this interview with Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s campaign lawyer outlines the formal approach underway by the inside campaign team. [The audio/visual isn’t great but it works]
https://youtu.be/XK1CwcIPpck
In addition to the information provided by Giuliani, there are three distinct data-points that could align in favor of supporting President Trump’s ongoing effort:
- Acceptance by the Supreme Court of the request by the Trump campaign to hear arguments against the Pennsylvania election outcome.
- A pending DNI report by John Ratcliffe outlining foreign influence in the election.
- The outcome of the Georgia run-off election on January 5th.
If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the campaign case; and if the DNI report can show foreign interference connection to the election; and if the Georgia run-off holds momentum toward the GOP; then it is more likely a Senator will object on January 6th to the certification of the electors and request a roll-call vote in the House and Senate.
These three positive outcomes would align with congressional meetings reported today within the White House.
Everything above tracks with the known direction of the preferred “inside group”, and their advice toward President Trump.
However, the independent “outside group” containing: Attorney Sidney Powell, Attorney Lin Wood, Lt. General Michael Flynn, and now former CEO Patrick Byrne, appear to be advising for a more forceful approach with use of the 2018 executive order safeguarding against foreign interference in the election.
The narrative engineering media have accused the outside group of attempting to stimulate interest in use of the U.S. military via the Insurrection Act.
(Politico) […] But that hasn’t stopped the act from becoming a buzzword and cure-all for prominent MAGA figures like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood, two prominent pro-Trump attorneys leading efforts to overturn the 2020 election, and even one North Carolina state lawmaker. Others like Michael Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser who was recently pardoned for lying to the FBI, have made adjacent calls for Trump to impose martial law.
The ideas have circulated in pro-Trump outlets and were being discussed over the weekend among the thousands of MAGA protesters who descended on state capitols and the Supreme Court to falsely claim Trump had won the election. (more)
In essence the DC media is attempting to isolate, ridicule and marginalize the entire effort of both groups by weaponizing a dictator Trump narrative open to use of the military via the Insurrection Act or Martial Law.
Into this fray any meeting with President Trump by the outside group is being weaponized by anti-Trump media. President Trump was pushing back against this narrative effort by media over the weekend:
It is important to remember the White House counsel would be providing legal advice from the position of “The Office of the Presidency.” The White House counsel’s job is to uphold the concentric circles of legal protection that surround President Trump or any U.S. President. There are some topics of conversation that White House counsel would not allow to take place inside the oval office.
The distinction between White House counsel (Pat Cipollone) and Trump Campaign counsel (Rudy Giuliani) is the former looks out for the “office” while the latter looks out for the political interests. The distinctions are narrow, but the distinctions are very real.
The difference between the two sets of advisors is a distinction the media enjoy exploiting to give the appearance of division. This creates friction and leads to turmoil. The DC media know this game well, and any time there is a republican president in office they use this marginalization and isolation narrative to stir up trouble.
As a direct outcome The New York Times published an article on Saturday morning attempting to create division and pushing a narrative intended to create trouble amid two aligned groups: Inside Campaign group and Outside Campaign group.
NEW YORK TIMES – President Trump on Friday discussed making Sidney Powell, who as a lawyer for his campaign team unleashed a series of conspiracy theories about a Venezuelan plot to rig voting machines in the United States, a special counsel investigating voter fraud, according to two people briefed on the discussion.
It was unclear if Mr. Trump will move ahead with such a plan.
Most of his advisers opposed the idea, two of the people briefed on the discussion said, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president’s personal lawyer, who in recent days sought to have the Department of Homeland Security join the campaign’s efforts to overturn Mr. Trump’s loss in the election. (more)
The larger goal by DC media is to isolate President Trump by fracturing his base of support. The outside group (Powell, Wood, Flynn, Byrne) are fighting a different type of confrontational battle, while the inside group (Giuliani, Ellis et al) are attempting to bridge their legal effort with congressional and political support.
[NOTE: White House counsel is between both groups protecting “The Office”]
Obviously the MAGA community supports both approaches. However, to no-one’s surprise the approach of the more confrontational outside group feeds a yearning for justice amid a 2020 election outcome that is filled with evidence of fraud and injustice.
Unfortunately, for whatever reason, one of the outside group, Patrick Byrne, went on Twitter on Sunday and kicked-up a hornets nest of division which plays directly into the hands of the DC media who thrive on the division narrative.
While Mr. Byrne may have the best intentions in mind, saying President Trump is “lied to” by his advisors is not the best approach. Byrne may believe the confrontational strategy of the outside group is a better plan, and he may forcefully advocate for that approach, but going public with the content of an oval office meeting is never a good idea.
The content or context of a meeting in the Oval Office should always be kept private, and outlining conflict for the purpose of position advocacy never ends well.
The public airing of internal debate (or conflict) only leads to the principle officer (President Trump) having to draw distinct lines amid participants. Internal conflict made public only fuels the division narrative.
If Patrick Byrne feels the president is not being served by his advisors, apparently he had four-and-a-half hours to make that exact point. There is no value in taking an antagonistic approach public, and again it only feeds division…. which is what the media are seeking to exploit.
The conflict narrative is worsened by Mr. Byrne going onto Newsmax [SEE HERE] and podcasts [SEE HERE] to keep pushing his message that President Trump is not being served…. Byrne also gave interviews to Epoch Times:
— Patrick Byrne (@PatrickByrne) December 22, 2020
At a certain point enough purposeful animosity is simply enough. No doubt the most gleeful group watching Byrne at work are the same media who can take a backseat and appreciate the division of President Trump’s base of support.
There is a certain predictability to all of this:
- Wednesday Night – Michael Flynn recommended (Newsmax) impounding Dominion machines by order of President Trump; and noted military possibilities.
- Thursday – The DC media stirred up the controversy around the insurrection act by painting Trump supporters as unstable. Joint Chief’s General Milley said the military would not engage in any political effort.
- Friday – Sidney Powell and Patrick Byrne meet with President Trump in the Oval Office.
- Saturday – The New York Times framed the Powell/Byrne meeting as a radical effort to remain president.
- Saturday night – President Trump pushed-back against the Martial Law narrative.
- Sunday Patrick Byrne criticizes the White House advisory group, President Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, and the office of White House counsel.
Notice the fuel for division is from the outside group. What happens next is predictable:
- Monday (tonight) sensing the president is being boxed into a division narrative; which ultimately weakens him and fractures the base of support; President Trump’s campaign lawyer Rudy Giuliani has no other option other than to push back against Sidney Powell and Patrick Byrne.
The bottom line is people within the MAGA community must resist the urge to fracture and divide based on differing opinion of approaches. Everyone wants the same goal and nerves are on edge among patriots who have poured their heart and soul into supporting President Trump amid the face of four years of overwhelming adversity.
President Trump loves this country and is not a quitter amid adversity. No-one loves this nation more than President Trump and his base of supporters. Everyone wants the best possible outcome.
Bottom line: Let Trump be Trump!
Breathe…
Byrne is there to send a persuasive veiled message to Hillary Clinton for Biden to concede before January 6th. Before the election Hillary Clinton instructed Biden “not to cocede under any circumstances.”
Byrne has evidence that can be used to prosecute Clinton by the Durham Special Counsel regarding evidence Byrne holds of an 18 million dollar bribe Clinton accepted. Biden will only concede if Clinton allows it.
No one discussed Martial Law, or using the Insurrection Act during that meeting, the media is the one’s lying and that POS WH counsel started it all.
Patrick Byrne- what happened in the meeting with the President.
Biden has plans on bringing in UN Troops. The people must fight
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/12/21/dark-to-light-a-meeting-with-the-president/
I agree: the only thing we can do is let Trump be Trump. Let him free – I know the consequences are the most serious we shall ever face – but let him have some peace so his brain can optimally function. I don’t find much comfort personally in prayer, but we have to get out of his head. I respect these advisors, but he knows what they think, and needs the quiet to know what HE thinks.
The rest of us must try our best not to interfere. Try to just trust.
OK, so I am thinking I need a road trip from Texas to DC. How many here are planning on being in Washington to support our president? Let me ask How many of you are glad to know that its Trump in the lead and not someone else? No other person alive, would be better prepared for greatness than PDJT.
I would never consider making a trip to DC in January for someone like say, Mitt Romney. But this man, President Trump is a once in my lifetime leader, who has completely earned my admiration and trust. I have been in mourning since Nov 4th. I think its time to get off my keister and actually do something. This seems like such a small thing, but by small means – great things are achieved. Please join our president in Washington as he has requested. Use the $600 from the Covid debacle to buy a ticket, and maybe some Mace for the BLM/Antifa thugs who will inevitably be there to greet us. I may be sleeping on the interstate, but that’s just fine. January… ugh…
Looking for a UNIPARTY STATISTICIAN to REBUKE the data that President Trump won this election BY A LANDSLIDE. I don’t even hear Crickets. But I’ll bet once the trolls from the NYSLIME’s and The WPosthole’s digging their own graves will find A ROCK STAR who is willing to fake themselves to the 9th degree.
Even in these THREE DAYS where the Sun stands still in the Darkness (the Solstice) President Trump is a BEACON OF SENSIBILITY. CALM. SAYING IT MIGHT BE ME!
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/trump-kicks-covid-bill-back-congress-demands-2000-stimulus-shreds-congress-over-mountain
“Speculation” is that things will happen prior to and on the day of Jan 6th (Pence Card?) that will lead the Deep State/DNC to react by sending out their Brown shirts to riot and try to remove Trump from the White House. Another stage of their attempted coup. Trump didn’t say “Come to DC” simply for a rally. We need as many able-bodied and “equipped” Patriots to show up–not to commit violence, but actually to quell potential violence by the Left.
Sean: “So do you have the access now, Mayor, do you have the access that you need to prove it?”
Mayor: “It’s like I’ve been living in the Iron Curtain.”
It sounds like ‘no’. Sean finally gave up asking.
Byrne is a loose cannon.
Hopefully you all understand that Trump can only win if the state legislatures in the contested states reclaim their certification of the Biden electors. Then, Pemce has a basis to reject them when counting the electoral votes. The Congress can only reject the Biden electors if both houses vote to do so. With a Democrat majority in the House, that will not happen.
Yes. Pretty much been up to the GOP State Legislatures for quite some time. If the fraud is left to stand, the GOP State Legislatures is where the lions share of the blame will reside (as it should). It will be the thing that lends support to a growing secession movement. Thanks GOP.
This is exactly as would be expected…
(50) Diana West on Twitter: “Not good. Sidney Powell accuses White House officials of blocking her access to Trump https://t.co/MV8KurLtFj” / Twitter
I like the fighting words..even though i am half the world away right now, i can understand exactly how you and many others feel.I have split the last 20 years between living in the US and at home in India..Never in my wildest dreams would i have come across a day where corruption in the US would become far worse than what it is in India.
For all our corruption even we didnt have two stolen national elections like what you have had in the recent past.1960 was stolen too, even if people find it hard to admit.
After JFKs assassination it seems that your intel services have taken on the role of the Praetorian guard deciding which candidate they can put up with…in the last 60 years it looks like JFK, Reagan and Trump seem to be the only 3 people they had a problem with.
They took care of JFK ..with Reagan they got their man George HW Bush as Veep as they couldn’t do much to directly confront a popular man like him.
With Trump, they got nothing…Hillary would have been the ideal candidate to control and blackmail but Trump won somehow the first time..this time around no chances were taken and outright FRAUD was committed.
Although i dont discount the Chicoms, none of this would have happened without the actual conniving of your Deep state powers to be who have watched this blatant attack on US sovereignty go unchallenged and may also be directly involved even if you believe half of what Sidney Powell says is true.
This is not the America that i lived in. When Obama won in 08 i knew that something was deeply wrong.I packed my bags and left for home 2 years later.While i had personal reasons to go back i was glad that i was escaping from his regime.
Obama ended up being the proverbial straw in the camels back.Every thing that has happened since Trump announced his candidacy leads back to him and the damage that he caused for 8 years and continues to do so.
Its pretty naive to think that this was all about Trump ..not even close… you may very well need to get back to the spirit of 1776.
GOOD LUCK!!
Considering what went on the last 4 years, culminating in this incredibly fraudulent election – the notion of “Dictator Trump” sits just fine with me – though I never thought I would say that for any president regardless of my support.
We wuz screwed – plain and simple.
The fact that our Judicial branch REFUSES TO HEAR legal arguments to remedy the situation (or at least allow CLARIFICATION) due to “fears of riots” – or even their own personal safety (understandable, but cowardly nonetheless), is typical of the extreme leftist M.O. in other countries. Nullify the judicial, take over the legislature, then the executive is free to do whatever they please to the people – regardless of constitutional authority. Hell – in pretty much every case – the dictator SIMPLY WRITES A NEW CONSTITUTION.
When you watch the pattern of behavior and actions, and how it duplicates exactly what we’ve seen elsewhere in the hemisphere (and the world) – and then say “it can’t happen HERE” – while WATCHING IT HAPPEN HERE…
As we look to GA – for those two seats to be taken with impunity. We let them get away with the PRESIDENTIAL – couple of seats in congress are even easier to steal.
When you balance what they are trying to do with a (so-called) “COVID RELIEF PACKAGE”, against what they WILL DO with unrestricted power – then the “best possible outcome” – is to nullify the 2020 election – keep DJT & the current congress in power – and RE-HOLD THE ELECTION with .mil and (disgusting as it sounds) OUTSIDE OBSERVERS.
Sad that the nation that SET THE STANDARD – and assists everyone else on the planet in holding a fair election – CANNOT HOLD ONE THEMSELVES ANY LONGER. And if we can’t get this CLEANED UP NOW – WILL WE EVER? Will 2022/24 be ANY BETTER?
I dunno – you tell me…
I sense weakness in Giuliani”s position, and strength in Sidney Powell’s. If Arizona AND Pennsylvania don’t retract their certification of Biden, after actually, officially seeing the evidence of fraud, then it’s release the Kraken time (!)
We know, Mr. Giuliani. We don’t have to beg the courts to look at what we know, of the fraud we have all seen.
The entire system is denying the President, AND his unprecedented number of voters, DUE PROCESS OF LAW. THEY ARE ALL CRIMINAL.
The American Revolution was NOT started by radicals, but by a newly-enlightened (!) middle class.
The Sons Of Liberty were radicals.
WeAreBorg says: “Stop with the “if-if-if’s”, it’s game over folks; it’s time we deal with this and start planning for the coming darkness.”
Serious question: What difference, at this point, does it make, to “throw in the towel” now; instead of fighting through January, and then do the “planning” (if applicable)?
Why are you advocating that now; instead of then?
How do we know the “chaos” isn’t orchestrated by the man who LOVES to create chaos to distract everyone from his actions?
Also, Trump would have to have Sidney Powell as separate from his team in order to make her a special prosecutor, no?