Many people have requested polling deconstruction similar to CTH accurate analysis in 2016. Let us be clear, there really is no value in doing that in 2020.
The media effort in 2020 is indeed very similar to 2016 in that current narratives are a psychological effort to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
BASELINE 101: Everyone naturally wants to be on the winning team.
The media effort, and that means all media including social media and big tech, is to push down Trump support and elevate the appearance of Biden support. I really wish people would deeply consider this…
…If ABC (G. Stephanopoulos), CBS (L. Stahl), NBC (S. Guthrie/L. Holt), CNN (writ large), and FOX (C. Wallace/M. Kelly) are willing to stage audience plants (demonstrably done) during town-hall and broadcast television events,… then what exactly do you think those same media outlets are doing with their election polling?
Think about it.
I do not mean casually think about it; I mean really think about it.
Your intellectually honest answer is the answer you need unto itself.
Everything you are witnessing right now is about psychological control to create the false illusion of reality within your own mind. Essentially, professional media gaslighting with an agenda and purpose. This is not a conspiracy theory, those who are coordinating the effort have admitted exactly what they are doing:
♦ Google executives are on camera, outlining what their organization is doing. HERE and HERE and HERE. Google has admitted to using algorithms and their control over the internet search engine to influence the election. Again, stop and think about that.
♦ General Stanley McCrystal is working with a SuperPAC to use psychological warfare against the American electorate. Even the Washington Post admitted:
[…] The group, Defeat Disinfo, will use artificial intelligence and network analysis to map discussion of the president’s claims on social media. It will seek to intervene by identifying the most popular counter-narratives and boosting them through a network of more than 3.4 million influencers across the country — in some cases paying users with large followings to take sides against the president. (source)
♦ The national U.S. media has been caught numerous times constructing a false reality, lying about events and attempting to manipulate the election. As you read this you have the concrete example of all national media hiding the explosive issues around Hunter and Joe Biden. Again, these are not conspiracy theories, these are demonstrable facts.
So what do you think all of these aligned interests are trying to do with the media polling examples they push and promote so heavily? Answer: they are trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
However, the actual facts on the ground… the stuff you can see around you, with your own eyes and ears,… is entirely different from the false reality they are attempting to create in the internet and false reality of television.
Take the example of Kamala Harris in Asheville, North Carolina today:
This is Asheville, North Carolina, a regional pocket of the most far-left of the furthest left moonbats in the entire South. And yet despite being in that left-wing enclave, Harris can only draw a crowd of around a dozen supporters.
See the disconnect?
Kamala Harris leaving the events to a stream of cheers and boos. @asheville pic.twitter.com/rXaP1mHSC2
— David Thompson (@daveth89) October 21, 2020
A smattering of support and opposition in the town that should be the most pronounced support group for the efforts of the Moonbat coalition. The reality is entirely disconnected from the false media narrative…. brutally and transparently so.
This bizarre dynamic is why it was important to CTH readers for me to write about the media polling immediately after winning the 2016 election. At 5:00am on November 9th, 2016, I had to put this in writing because I realized the opposition would weaponize this fake polling with increased severity in 2020.
Here is exactly what I wrote then:
2016: Before we begin the arduous process of holding our political representatives accountable for the mandate we require, there is a very important detail which must be forever etched in the psyche of our republic to ensure it is never forgotten.
THE MEDIA DIDN’T GET IT WRONG – The pollsters did not work from the wrong data set; the media pollsters, consultants and professional political class did not work from the wrong assumptions, or use the incorrect baselines….. THEY LIED.
The professional media polling agents knew exactly what the truth was.
They lied and manipulated their data in a concerted effort to intentionally falsify reality. There should be no doubt, EVER, in the mind of any political observer as to what took place within the expressed and broadcasted polling which fueled over two years of broadcast news. The media intentionally lied.
They knew the truth. The same tools available to us, and to those who were ridiculed for truth-telling, were available to them and many more. They did not get it wrong. They chose to lie to you the American electorate. So let’s name the liars so their names can forever be dispatched from the land where credibility is of value:
- Fox News, pollster Daron Shaw, Shaw Research and associates and the Wall Street Journal. Rupert Murdoch.
- NBC News, pollster Mark Murray, Hart Research and Associates.
- Monmouth University, pollster Patrick Murray.
- CBS News and New York Times writ large.
- ABC News and The Washington Post.
- CNN News Network and ORC Polling.
- Reuters Polling Operations.
These individuals along with every single corporate national media polling outlet, which in turn contributed to -and skewed- the larger aggregate of the Real Clear Politics average of polls, were complicit in their intent to deceive the American electorate in an ideological scheme to manipulate the psyche of the American voter.
There is not a single shred of credibility that should remain with any of the above mentioned polling entities.
They did not make mistakes; they did not operate from the wrong assumptions. These organizations, as part of the larger corporate objectives from those who fund their endeavors, lied. Allowing them to say they made a mistake is only dooming ourselves to the continued cycle of battered electorate syndrome.
These entities are our abusers. They have been gaslighting the American electorate for years, and have been able to remain unchecked because no-one has ever called them to task before.
Throughout the last two years we have identified and exposed this corrupt endeavor while being ridiculed and marginalized at each undertaking. There should be no quarter provided and no amount of forgiveness ever offered.
The entire construct of their operational business model is corrupt from top to bottom. This moment in history should forever separate their influence from our national political discussion. PERIOD.
Lies.
All of it.
Intentionally so.
Break the cycle.
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1319074923202002944?s=20
He stole the loudspeaker from Reverend Al.
Ha!
Back to his days as a community agitator.
How far the mighty have fallen!
I really wonder what they must be thinking when they have these rallies and like only 10 people show up. They have to be saying inside their heads: What the F is going on.
I’m in complete shock. It’s not like his voice is not unique (I know it immediately and mute it myself). I would expect people out on the sidewalk to hear it and at least come over. Not only are people not clamoring to be around him and take his picture, the 5 young people look completely bored. They thought he walked on water. WTH is going on?
This is a God thing happening before our very eyes. O’liar and Hiden Biden don’t stand a chance.
That they should’ve hired more extras than 10!
mighty, smh. Really the waste of skin and it is just horrible that he is breathing good air that other good people could be breathing.
Yep, almost impossible to re-enter the political Nexus Ribbon once out of it.
Don’t think he needed that loudspeaker!! Good Lord!
He needs a megaphone for 5 people?
NC is also counting after election like PA then it will not be decided on Nov 3rd. Democrats will find tons of ballot on Election Day or next day after election.
There are enough Trump voters and enough enthusiasm that if we asked for 50,000 people to stake out and constantly videotape every single mailbox, post office, and election office in those two states for two whole weeks to prevent fraud . . . we could probably do that. Just saying.
Unless we make it mathematically impossible to produce enough mailed ballots because those, plus in person votes, would outnumber registered voters, or plausible number of legitimate voters.
PDJT’s re-election is going to be close……………..real close.
The Senate really has me worried.
Did the “polls” tell you it’s going to be close?
The media intends to take this election from us in plain sight. That’s why Jeffrey got so hot and bothered on zoom. No legitimate news organization conducts election simulations for honest purposes. They will take the ruse further this year, announcing the winner is Biden, ignoring all facts to the contrary,rousing the rioters to physically expel the President from the White House. “As long as Joe doesn’t concede, eventually he will win.”
You understand that the individual states announce the results themselves in national elections? That channel is hard to overcome with fake news reporting.
After the NYP censorship debacle, most Americans don’t trust anything the corporate media or big tech has to say. The reported approval rating of mainstream media is currently lower than Congress.
They definitely are not journalists but rather are actors on infotainment shows. The simulattion your mentioned was one of their rehearsals for the big play on Nov.3, except they have almost certainly rehearsed their ‘this is only the first day of ballott counting’ shtick.
I don’t pay much attention to polls.
I pay more attention to my gut instincts.
You sound profoundly concerned.
I am.
And coming here to express those worries in two sentences …………….accomplishes what?
Two sentences made “me” feel good. That is an accomplishment.
Headine in the Daily Mail:
Here we go!
I believe nothing the Bureau says and actively did trust their actions and motives.
Diatrust.
DISTRUST
Sigh
KellyAnne Cpnway has retired from President Trump’s staff and Brad Pascale had a meltdown and quit and now he’s in legal trouble. Both of these people are respected data scientists. Who is running the internal polling and statistics for Trump these days?
Also, is it legal to place a bet on Trump’s election? Could someone please link the website?
I’m sure the Trump campaign is fully staffed with good people to run the show.
Brad was set up by his wife, and Kelly Anne was sidelined by her teenage daughter. Too bad, great talent there.
His wife participated in the told plan. Ironically she loves him. Hence him removed prior.
It’s close enough to tell.
Prepare for no election. At the same time we need a real election. Just prepare in any way u feel appropriate
I was not following CTH in 2016. I thought PDT was going to lose, but that it would be close. I think it will be close (not with true votes) and PDT will win.
2016, I was in the same boat Amy,.
by election night so disturbed hid in my bedroom & got updates from my son and husband. They both predicted President Trump would win, and feel the same now, ❤️
Good for you! I watched and waited until 2:45 for PA to be called!
Amy,
The complacent attitude of people towards openly corrupt elites is mystifying.
Pascale: Wow: https://www.thedailybeast.com/former-trump-campaign-manager-brad-parscale-resigns-due-to-overwhelming-stress-after-breakdown
Agree – really nothing in media or current events, or news, or debates, or plagues, or famines, or riots, or really strange global temperature changes, will change our votes – that w/b cast in our local precinct down at the end of the street at the Elementary School gym, on Tuesday November 3rd, for President Trump.
Our media no longer exists to give the public information, it exists solely to deliver a specific public opinion as required by whoever the highest bidder is. The problem is we have adjusted our filters to account for the slanted news, and (as a result) we don’t form the opinions they want to deliver.
But, as is said, when you only have a hammer, all problems look like nails, and they have upped the ante. They daily attempt to force the matter through fear, but it no longer works.
I got sick of seeing the media pretend that everyone hates Trump and love Biden, so I tallied up their social media followers to show which candidate actually has the support of the masses
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/i-got-sick-of-seeing-the-media-pretend-that-everyone-hates-trump-and-love-biden-so-i-tallied-up-their-social-media-followers-to-show-which-candidate-actually-has-the-support-of-the-masses/
I really wonder what they must be thinking when they have these rallies and like only 10 people show up. They have to be saying inside their heads: What the F is going on.
I’m revelling in the Schadenfreude:)
Great article, thanks for the link!
The MSM never talks about bidens accomplishments because in reality there are none in his 50+ years as a gubment leach to gloat on about. What they do report is a very questionable negative Trump story from a “source close to the matter”, and then set it up to tie in a poll showing biden ahead.
Your missing the joke completely, they are putting a corpse up as a joke saying they would rather have a corpse than Trump for President. Then an imbecile (kamala) , then a drunk (pig lousy). They HATE Trump that much.
It was a stupid plan… (as always)
General McCrystal, you do have the same reporting obligations and responses. Consider your tool ours now and respond accordingly. Thank you for your service.
I’m seeing enormous melt downs on social media. Unfortunately seeing lefties spouting the party line and unwilling to even consider they are wrong.
Many pretty benign comments by conservatives are being met with vulgarity and attacks by friends of 40-50 years. Lots of relationships are being destroyed.
Gov of Nevada Is corrupt
SD preaching to the choir.
Don’t want to sound harsh here, but I’m sure SD’s energies could be better spent in a different manner.
I hate to see Our stud researcher rehashing and burning oil with a minor return.
I could be wrong.
God Bless and guide you SD
You know what makes me furious? Let me tell you. Every one of the past few Presidential elections has involved anguished, nail-biting worries about election fraud! Oh, the FEAR! They’ll CHEAT! They’ll STEAL the election! WOE IS ME!
Then, as soon as the election is over, no effective solution is reached regarding voter fraud! Not even prioritized by the Party that was biting it’s nails!
It’s all swept away, until THE NEXT BIG ELECTION! Then, it’s back to anguished nail biting again! I, for one, am TOTALLY SICK OF THIS!
When I order my pet food and other items I cannot access locally online, from the moment I place my order, I can see my specific order number, and a little truck with wheels turning lets me monitor every step of the delivery! In the case of other online deliveries, not only do I see very long, very detailed numbers specific to my order, but I can track those orders by specific freight shipment areas and times. I even get a picture of the delivered item sitting on my porch!!!
If this system is possible for a box of dog food, why in the world hasn’t it been harnessed in a secure way to make voting fraud nearly impossible???
you answered your own question (final paragraph)
it’s available
it’s just not used
@nimrodman:
Thanks for your input! It was strictly a rhetorical question. I was trying to get more people, who are also sick of voter fraud, to realize WHAT IS POSSIBLE, in the hope that voters will finally begin bringing great pressure on our elected officials to actually FIX THIS!
Now, I know that we Treepers are more informed than just about any persons I have ever encountered, but sometimes they copy or forward things of interest, and I never cease to be amazed at people who rely strictly on tv and newspapers to keep them informed!
I read a comment today where someone was absolutely stunned at first viewing of a particular Trump ad! I had already seen it all over the place (none via tv or newspapers) several days ago. Perhaps they also are unaware of possible voter fraud measures, and, like you, I do what I can! Best wishes!
Asheville fall foliage is rather lame this year.
The Art and Science of Polling
In 2016 Democracy Institute correctly forecasted the 2016 US election (the electoral collage victory) and Brexit referendum. DI’s latest poll showed Trump beating Biden 46% to 45% and winning almost all battleground states by a healthy margin. I think this polling entity is one of the positive exceptions.
Almost 3 hours of ‘explaining’. Luckily there is no real need to watch it as it mostly confirms what a lot of treepers already know, see and feel.
”Trump is winning. The Democracy Institute’s Patrick Basham explains why.”
(Almost 3 hours of ‘explaining’. Luckily there is no real need to watch it as it mostly confirms what a lot of treepers already know, see and feel.)
(the next and final DI poll will be 1 november)
One thing I’ve come familiar with over the years, is that these people don’t think out of the box when something doesn’t work.
They just double down and triple down to save their egos.
One thing I’ve come familiar with over the years, is that these people don’t think out of the box when something doesn’t work.
They just double down and triple down to save their egos.
I was not reading on the CTH in 2016 either. But so grateful I’ve found a twig or a branch here. When I know know something doesn;t make sense to me I have strived to find person’s and places that make sense of it to me. Thank You Sundance!!!!!
Up too late last night reading, but once I went to bed I thought of the movie “Wag the Dog.” Not a blockbluster, but a very old movie that shows one of the first attempts at how the media has been hard at work to SELL their stories to the humans they believe are GULLIBLE and deign to be STUPID enough to believe them.
Expecting news platforms to spread truth instead of FICTION has pissed off more people than I can count this week. Some don’t even know they are pissed off. But as it was in my youth, they turn on their TV’s and expect it to be non-fiction. Used to be that way.
From what I’ve been hearing in voices on the phone this week, people are starting to doubt their own perceptions. I told one friend its like people are walking on broken glass, at a seminar where you walk on hot coals, or you are told to expect a psychopath loaded with emotional bear to just unload a shotgun.
What a travesty that the media have even even PLANNED THIS PSYOP and squeezing people hard for years now and going NAKED in their drive. Banning sights etc.
End of RANT.
Trailer from WAG THE DOG
“I was not reading on the CTH in 2016 either”
I’ll catch you up just a little:
Sundance would look behind the poll results on their face
He’d look at who was polled
One poll, Arizona I think it was. had Hillary ahead, +4 %
Looking at the innards, Sundance found that they had to overweight (over-poll) lefty respondents by 8% in order to show that 4% ‘lead’ by Hill
She was actually 4% behind, even by the poll’s own numbers
Trump took Arizona
In this post today, Sundance mentions he’s getting requests for similar analyses (as a result of many people being concerned and a bit frenetic about the seeming doomsday poll numbers – my words, not his)
He’s telling us it’s not worth his time and effort, we already know the big picture
… and the big picture is a sham, a flat out lie
they lie
the end
Bravo, Sundance! Fantastic post
Thank you, danke, gracias, merci
I will be emailing it to all my family, ‘cept for a couple hopelessly commie nieces
Meet NBC News’ Brandy Zadrozny — The Woman In Charge of Doxxing and Destroying Trump Supporters
https://www.revolver.news/2020/10/brandy-zadrozny-dox-trump-supporters-glamorize-pedophiles/
Interesting. Thanks.
Nuts!
Never forget Bastogne.
We have actual thought police in America who are using threats and intimidation to force a groupthink oness, people are afraid pollsters are agents of this evil fascism who will use any negative information to rob them of a job, home life and liberty. Nobody with any sense will ever level with pollsters again
Reporting is one thing, shaping biased opinions during an is Election Interference.
The lied and their idiot base believed them. Hence all the videos of liberals crying at Hillary’s rally on election night.
But like most democrats they are too dumb and can’t think through anything. They are lying again expecting different results.
A key factor is covid. Lets take the fear mongering first. Many democrats are afraid to go to the polls and have requested mail in ballots, but in some states the numbers show only half have been sent in. If that continues and they don’t show up on EDay, they lose.
Also, the early numbers show that the 18-29 year old vote, especially college students, is down over 2016. Duh, stupid democrats shut down in person college and removed any incentive for them to vote. No vote rallies, parties, or on campus organizing.
Finally, think about parents who have a child at home doing online school. Are they going to get a babysitter or take the child away from class to go vote? When the kids were in school, parents were able to just drop in to their polling place.
The left is so stupid they continue to think these polling lies help them but in reality, it is their doom. You thought screaming at the sky and wearing pussy hats was something, just you wait!
The democrat party needs to change their name to “Prevaricats”
Not just the opposition; but on our own side as well.
For example. The guys at Powerline quote these polls all the time. As if the polling is honest data points for us to consume. They learned nothing from 2016. And apparently nothing since. Of course they use the obligatory, “if accurate” qualifiers, as if it absolves them of pimping phony polling.
The braintrust at Powerline is suppose to be smart guys. But in reality, they are not.
And if you call them out, they will ban you.
Constantly blocking news outlets on my Android news feed. Any semi pro Trump story or anti Biden story is surrounded by 8 counter discrediting stories all fabricated by a CIA methodology and echoed today by FBI. No doubt a matrix reality construct is what is afoot.
Solution. Big tech trancieves / operates 98 percent of its contents over public airwaves. No different than a voice sinusoidal wave in the town Square, are digital 4-5g signals carried over public rented licensed airwaves. Said censorship and fakery can simply be denied on public airwaves. Ie.. a tranciever platform is..twitter fbook etc must allow everything within the laws of free speech just as one may shout obscenely in the town Square. But one may not yell fire in a Crowded theater. Use only 1st ammendment limitations . Super simple. Fixed!!
I wholeheartedly agree that the polling is false, and that it’s being conducted by the same groups who nightly try to deceive you. Polling is worse, though, because it’s a black box: You’re allowed to peer into it a little to see some of the demographics of the datasets polled, but there’s no way to vet whether they’re presenting real data. It thus brings with it an even greater opportunity to deceive — much greater than what they selectively choose to present (and not present) with their so-called news coverage.
But, this time is different. Here’s what I mean:
In 2016, they were trying to convince everyone that they should be on the “winning team.” Hillary’s obviously going to win. So, you should either vote for her, or don’t even bother to vote because voting for anyone other than Hillary would be futile.
They tried that and failed. This time, they have no intention of letting voters get it wrong.
The polling now is not being falsified with the same goal. The goal this time is to convince you that the false result is legitimate: Joe Biden won, which is what the polls were telling us all along. You won’t see much about all the vote-rigging that is underway right now. They won’t show any news about it and, to the extent it is even acknowledged anywhere, it will be minimized and cast as something that wouldn’t have changed the outcome.
This time the fake polling is in service to convincing you that their rigged outcome has some legitimacy. We do see that no one goes to Biden campaign stops and that there is no enthusiasm for his presidential bid. But, too few of us see this. The vast majority just see these polls. They will be used this time to convince the majority that the stolen outcome is legitimate. They will not be risking another loss; the vote-rigging began many months ago.