Many people have requested polling deconstruction similar to CTH accurate analysis in 2016. Let us be clear, there really is no value in doing that in 2020.
The media effort in 2020 is indeed very similar to 2016 in that current narratives are a psychological effort to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
BASELINE 101: Everyone naturally wants to be on the winning team.
The media effort, and that means all media including social media and big tech, is to push down Trump support and elevate the appearance of Biden support. I really wish people would deeply consider this…
…If ABC (G. Stephanopoulos), CBS (L. Stahl), NBC (S. Guthrie/L. Holt), CNN (writ large), and FOX (C. Wallace/M. Kelly) are willing to stage audience plants (demonstrably done) during town-hall and broadcast television events,… then what exactly do you think those same media outlets are doing with their election polling?
Think about it.
I do not mean casually think about it; I mean really think about it.
Your intellectually honest answer is the answer you need unto itself.
Everything you are witnessing right now is about psychological control to create the false illusion of reality within your own mind. Essentially, professional media gaslighting with an agenda and purpose. This is not a conspiracy theory, those who are coordinating the effort have admitted exactly what they are doing:
♦ Google executives are on camera, outlining what their organization is doing. HERE and HERE and HERE. Google has admitted to using algorithms and their control over the internet search engine to influence the election. Again, stop and think about that.
♦ General Stanley McCrystal is working with a SuperPAC to use psychological warfare against the American electorate. Even the Washington Post admitted:
[…] The group, Defeat Disinfo, will use artificial intelligence and network analysis to map discussion of the president’s claims on social media. It will seek to intervene by identifying the most popular counter-narratives and boosting them through a network of more than 3.4 million influencers across the country — in some cases paying users with large followings to take sides against the president. (source)
♦ The national U.S. media has been caught numerous times constructing a false reality, lying about events and attempting to manipulate the election. As you read this you have the concrete example of all national media hiding the explosive issues around Hunter and Joe Biden. Again, these are not conspiracy theories, these are demonstrable facts.
So what do you think all of these aligned interests are trying to do with the media polling examples they push and promote so heavily? Answer: they are trying to create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
However, the actual facts on the ground… the stuff you can see around you, with your own eyes and ears,… is entirely different from the false reality they are attempting to create in the internet and false reality of television.
Take the example of Kamala Harris in Asheville, North Carolina today:
This is Asheville, North Carolina, a regional pocket of the most far-left of the furthest left moonbats in the entire South. And yet despite being in that left-wing enclave, Harris can only draw a crowd of around a dozen supporters.
See the disconnect?
Kamala Harris leaving the events to a stream of cheers and boos. @asheville pic.twitter.com/rXaP1mHSC2
— David Thompson (@daveth89) October 21, 2020
A smattering of support and opposition in the town that should be the most pronounced support group for the efforts of the Moonbat coalition. The reality is entirely disconnected from the false media narrative…. brutally and transparently so.
This bizarre dynamic is why it was important to CTH readers for me to write about the media polling immediately after winning the 2016 election. At 5:00am on November 9th, 2016, I had to put this in writing because I realized the opposition would weaponize this fake polling with increased severity in 2020.
Here is exactly what I wrote then:
2016: Before we begin the arduous process of holding our political representatives accountable for the mandate we require, there is a very important detail which must be forever etched in the psyche of our republic to ensure it is never forgotten.
THE MEDIA DIDN’T GET IT WRONG – The pollsters did not work from the wrong data set; the media pollsters, consultants and professional political class did not work from the wrong assumptions, or use the incorrect baselines….. THEY LIED.
The professional media polling agents knew exactly what the truth was.
They lied and manipulated their data in a concerted effort to intentionally falsify reality. There should be no doubt, EVER, in the mind of any political observer as to what took place within the expressed and broadcasted polling which fueled over two years of broadcast news. The media intentionally lied.
They knew the truth. The same tools available to us, and to those who were ridiculed for truth-telling, were available to them and many more. They did not get it wrong. They chose to lie to you the American electorate. So let’s name the liars so their names can forever be dispatched from the land where credibility is of value:
- Fox News, pollster Daron Shaw, Shaw Research and associates and the Wall Street Journal. Rupert Murdoch.
- NBC News, pollster Mark Murray, Hart Research and Associates.
- Monmouth University, pollster Patrick Murray.
- CBS News and New York Times writ large.
- ABC News and The Washington Post.
- CNN News Network and ORC Polling.
- Reuters Polling Operations.
These individuals along with every single corporate national media polling outlet, which in turn contributed to -and skewed- the larger aggregate of the Real Clear Politics average of polls, were complicit in their intent to deceive the American electorate in an ideological scheme to manipulate the psyche of the American voter.
There is not a single shred of credibility that should remain with any of the above mentioned polling entities.
They did not make mistakes; they did not operate from the wrong assumptions. These organizations, as part of the larger corporate objectives from those who fund their endeavors, lied. Allowing them to say they made a mistake is only dooming ourselves to the continued cycle of battered electorate syndrome.
These entities are our abusers. They have been gaslighting the American electorate for years, and have been able to remain unchecked because no-one has ever called them to task before.
Throughout the last two years we have identified and exposed this corrupt endeavor while being ridiculed and marginalized at each undertaking. There should be no quarter provided and no amount of forgiveness ever offered.
The entire construct of their operational business model is corrupt from top to bottom. This moment in history should forever separate their influence from our national political discussion. PERIOD.
Lies.
All of it.
Intentionally so.
Break the cycle.
The unfair treatment of Conservatives is predictable, yet infuriating…but I believe Trump is counting on it to be “motivating”…despite everything they throw at us, we’ll beat these fools…again
Don’t worry Sundance. We got this!
We have learned well from you, the Master teacher!
All Things Are Possible!
In President Trump’s second term, I hope he can do something to rein in the military industrial complex, total freaks. I am wearing something Red to the polls and suggesting all Patriots do the same. Our great President needs to see that sea of Red.
Alli—-Great idea! Thanks!!!
All the stories predicting extreme violence and even revolution are attempting to terrify people from going to the polls. All I can say is that there better not be rioters blocking access to polling places.
Democrats are trying to scare people into voting for Joe or there’ll be violence.
They keep pushing the “this is Trumps America” when all of the violence is from the Left.
There’s a 50/50 chance of that happening…..in Republican strongholds only.
I disagree. It will happen in Democratic held areas. In Republican areas the police will be allowed to their jobs. Arrests and the certainty of prosecution will deter many of the band wagoners. The hard core will not proceed alone if they can’t hide in a crowd.
So if there are riots and destruction, it will destroy the leftest stronghold. Talk about blow back
Hope so!
BREAKING…
Fox reporting– FBI will hold news conference within the hour.
Hmmmm…
Wray better not.
I firmly believe the polls are set-up cover for the massive cheating that will happening on an absolutely huge scale. It’s all about cheating and their willingness to resort to it is the very reason they must lose and face consequences. When you let a child get away with anything you are only ensuring more of the same. These people are souless evil incarnate.
The pictures say a thousand words about the polling.
Correct.
At first it was to signal to the primary voters that Joe was leading in the polls
and would be the candidate. Otherwise the “Trump is using his office to bribe Ukraine into fabricating something about his political opponent” wouldn’t carry enough weight to initiate an impeachment.
I can tell you what’s better than any poll for testing the waters: comments sections. Not on news sites or sites that lean one way or the other, but places like Facebook. (Yes, you heard me right.) For some reason, recently FB has been thinking it’s cute to be putting UN, NYT, and various more-or-less local Democract PACs pages on my newsfeed.
I’ve made it a personal mission to make a snarky and/or informative comment on each post. I’ve received some huffy emojis/reactions, and I’ve picked up a troll or two, but no one has ever been able to refute my facts. And any Leftist is waaaay outnumbered – especially on COVID-related posts, people are so tired of this crap.
Another very surprising place where I’ve seen a swelling of support is YouTube. Used to be, I was the only Trump supporter in the YouTube comments section. Not anymore, and in fact, one person tried to use the generals to attack PDJT and didn’t find a single ideological ally – I wasn’t the only one destroying them with facts, though. Pro-life is becoming more popular, too, and I shocked a whole bunch of people the other day by proving that late-term abortion does, in fact, still happen.
Definitely go vote, but take heart – there are definitely more of us than of them. And people are being less and less afraid to speak out. (I even found another Trump supporter in the wasteland of Reddit.)
Thank you for this info, TreeClimber.
TreeClimber: Great New, I see this on twitter too.
Check out the AARP page. It’s awesome. 😀
No kidding? I thought AARP was a total lost cause. This is great!
Oh, the organization itself is. It’s awful. They’ve endorsed Jaime Harrison. But the comments – whoo boy. No one really likes AARP.
I’m very active on several reddit subreddits, so now you found 2!
Oh cool! Can I ask which ones? So far I haven’t really ventured off my tiny “politics banned” island of Christian subs, but I’d be curious about dipping my toes into the treacherous sea that is the wider range of subs.
LOL yeah sure. I mean I doubt you’d be interested.
I sort of like horror fictions, so r/nosleep is one I frequently read and comment on a lot. There is a lot of garbage but a lot of great writing too.
I like Dragon Ball a lot (see my avatar here), ever since I was a very little kid, so I contribute on r/dbz. It is my indulgence as a non-adult thing in life. Plus my boys love it too.
r/buildapc is another one I try to help people out on a lot. I build my own computers and associated things. Always have. I try to encourage people to build vs. buy pre-made and help them with issues when I can (the whole community there is really, really great).
Those are probably the ones I check out daily. Pretty specific interests though.
Reddit is no place for a good Treehouse visitor to discuss or event get anything related to politics or news. It is basically China/North Korea/USSR insane for those things. Stay away! Far, Far, away!
Good for you TreeClimber! Good for you!!!
TreeClimber there are many platforms like fb where people go not for politics but for fun. Twitch a gaming platform with regular nightly viewers of 300,000 to 400,000.. Last night their gaming guests were AOC and Ilhan Omar. (over 435,000 viewers last night) Pretty much assuming the viewers are non political and like to view or play or watch host gamers, in comes invited politicians looking to influence. Democrats are sneaky smart and Conservatives need to learn from them. So this kind of goes back to Sundance’s post. […] The group, Defeat Disinfo, will use artificial intelligence and network analysis to map discussion of the president’s claims on social media. It will seek to intervene by identifying the most popular counter-narratives and boosting them through a network of more than 3.4 million influencers across the country — in some cases paying users with large followings to take sides against the president. (source) ….I would say a platform like this could be part of the paid 3.4 million influencers across the country with a large following. This is just platform can you imagine how many other platforms they can draw votes from? Conservatives, Republicans and the WH need to start attracting a younger generation now. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/aoc-and-ilhan-omars-wholesome-among-us-stream-did-huge-numbers-on-twitch/ar-BB1aeSwh
just one platform
They’ve been turning the games regularly more SJW for years, with mixed success. Some of the more impressionable ones they’ve managed to influence, but by and large the gaming community is bawdy, competitive, foul mouthed, independent, and deeply politically incorrect. I married into it and hang out on the very fringes, but I get a glance in every now and then. I believe they were watching the AOC/Omar streams, but I doubt politics had much to do with it.
I am a mod on a twitch channel for a streamer. I love twitch. FYI- The President’s campaign has a channel and they stream every single rally, every one, on twitch.
I have noted the viewership. Almost every really fluctuates between 700-800 viewers. I thought that is actually not bad for this demographic and platform.
“Everything you are witnessing right now is about psychological control to create the false illusion of reality within your own mind. Essentially, professional media gaslighting with an agenda and purpose. This is not a conspiracy theory, those who are coordinating the effort have admitted exactly what they are doing:”
Amen, Amen, Amen, Amen, A-M-E-N. I have been saying this for weeks now. I don’t know how many times I have told people. This is one gigantic gaslighting effort. It pains me so much to see people falling for it.
Thank you so much for this post Sundance. Hope people will read and as you said “really think about it”.
It works on the ‘weak of minds.’
Now, pair that fact with the decline of education standards over the past thirty years, and ponder if that decline was (is) intentional, to produce the results you indicated, and that we see all too frequently, screaming at the sky.
“Raise ignorant Americans, and before long you’ll have an ignorant America.” Soft, and easily pliable.
I couldn’t agree more with Sundance here.
Pollsters are experts—which means they render an opinion based on what their client pays for.
Happens in every single trial, civil or criminal, if each side has enough money to hire an expert. Each expert says exactly what his client wants him to say and it is just the opposite of what the other expert says on the same subject on which they are both supposed to be experts.
In every trial 50% of the experts are deemed wrong by people operating on just plain old common sense—unless the jury is packed, as occurs with metronomic regularity in corrupted places like the District of Columbia.
Why wouldn’t CNN hire an expert pollster who gives them results they desperately want.
Same for Fox which is currently turning a large ship around from Truth to join the Globalist Tribe. Paul Ryan and the others in control can’t immediately run off Hannity, Carlson et al…but they can hire a pollster who will give them what they want—and they want the same thing as CNN.
The corruption is stupefying, its scary as Hell…but these polls aren’t scary—they are compiled by people like Jeffrey Toobin.
my dad always used to say”an expert is any a-hole 50 miles from home”.
In my industry we use from the Latin “ex” a has-been and “spurt” a drip under pressure
And, in those days, carried a brief case or attaché case.
But, in court the experts are not lying or manipulating facts. They just present the material in a manner that is more beneficial to the one paying them. BUT TGEY ARE NOT LYING. Good cross exams get the clarification needed.
What’s happening to Us, U.S. citizens is gaslighting and lies. A big difference.
Rasmussen. Interesting. I have been using them since 2004. Scott Rasmussen as running it back then.
I still trust them. Correct the past 3 out of 4 Presidential elections within 1point if the popular vote. Ever follow their twitter?
They really take on the trolls and bias polling.
Seems their state polling could be a little off. They didn’t poll the Midwest in 2016. Makes me wonder if that’s their reason. GOP support seems a little lower in their cross tabs but minority a little higher.
I don’t think i agree with Sundance on Rasmussen.
Agreed. SD’s post is fantastic — except for, in my opinion, the inclusion of Rasmussen. Appears to have a top quartile track record over the last half-decade.
He seems to have removed Rasmussen. I don’t see it anymore in the article.
According to Martin Armstrong’s report that has no human interaction, projects on a technical basis fir President Trump that there is resistance for the electoral vote starting at 297, 310 and 315. Support lies at 276.
Also says that we should see a 61% voter turnout.
It’s a fantastic report BTW.
I don’t know what to think and have to believe that others like me who search for news in an effort to ascertain the truth feel the same way. Compare that to all the recipients of progressive news feeds who take what they get as dogma in their echo chambers. And now Pennsylvania and North Carolina and soon to be another half dozen swing states won’t have to report their election results until a week after the election.
The good thing is that we can look forward to all the left wing media anxiously reporting state wins for Biden on election eve while holding their quiver for the ballot harvesting from red states to come. I suspect Biden may actually have a 200 to zero electoral lead when we go to sleep that evening. Small favors.
Perhaps some moderates and independents may eventually get the message.
Fox Channel was on in home and Obama started to speak…yikes I barely got to the mute button fast enough before our smoke and carbon monoxide alarm was about to go off!
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I tell people The can’t get crowds, and thought this up to cover it. As informed here.
Don’t let “big Mike” stand too close behind you.
Miller tearing it up on Lou Dobbs now. With the changing demographics of the country and the educational and cultural indoctrination perhaps the best we can hope for is to make the truth our primary campaign issue rather than issues which divide us. I am convinced that if we can actually determine and stand on the former and get the word out… that we will end up winning on the ladder.
SD,
This tells me- Barry doesn’t like what Rudy is about to release. This, this is desperation.
Everyone seems to think Big Guy is Biden. I’m sorry, Bug Guy just tried to speak.
Interesting theory. Hmm…
Obama would draw a few more than Biden but that can’t be allowed.
Here is a side-by-side comparison of the two campaigns in NC –
https://twitter.com/janetburke27/status/1319054754706698240
This picture of former President Obama sure is a far cry from when he entered the arena through Roman columns!
Is it a political rally or Eleanor Rigby’s funeral? All the lonely people, where do they belong?
..where do they belong???? to the….MENTAL HOSPITAL……..
Putting believe in polls Is an exercise in futility for several reasons.
Almost all election polls oversample democrats. Quite often they do not disclose the breakdown by party but when the data are presented, Democrats are usually oversampled by 5 to 12%. This skews the results as was readily evident in the 2016 election.
Many people refuse to participate in polls and others simply lie to the pollsters. There is some evidence that suggests Republicans do this. Democrats and pollsters insist that they can correct for this, but never quite explain how.
Some people just give answers that they think the pollsters want to hear or without really thinking about what they are saying. This can be corrected for with follow up questions but this is rarely done. An example is poll asks “How much money should be spent to control pollution?” Many people respond with ridiculous amounts or “no amount is too much”. Asking them a follow up of how much their taxes should be raised or if they are willing to write a check immediately usually gets them to change their response.
The number of Trump supporters who deliberately subvert the pollsters is greatly underestimated. Isn’t this one of the main reasons for the shock result in 2016? Noone, apart from ‘educated’ insiders saw a Trump victory coming. People do get the fake news and it has become a badge of honor to not answer the phone, refuse to answer or lie.
Pollster says ‘hidden shy voters’ will assure Trump win
And then there is enormous ammunition available to help motivate and turn out Trump voters, with thousands at the grassroots working overtime in support:
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I also wish people can see that Bernie Sanders tells the truth, that’s why his base is truly organic when it comes to communism/Socialism. They will not turn out to vote like some may think. They have been screwed twice now. The Anarchist only want destruction, they also will not turn out to vote! Common sense can see through this ruse with mail-in ballots. Plus so much more.
MAGA/KAG 2020
Black Lives MAGA
Pollsters have abandoned the Law of Large Numbers. Instead, they poll a small group, then torture the hell out of their raw data. It’s thinly disguised fraud.
We, the public are not the pollster’s customers; it’s the news media giants. Produce satisfactory results or else. He who pays the piper, calls the tune.
I wonder if pollsters call the same old group of voters over and over again.
I have never once been polled and I have been eligible to vote for about 50 years.
FYI the odds of PDJT winning the popular vote have gone down. A bet on him to win was paying $400 on a $100 bet (and you get your $100 back). Now it’s down to $330 on the $100.
I’m not a big gambler, but if you were getting 4 to 1 odds on Trump winning the popular vote before, but now can only get 3.3 to 1 odds, doesn’t that mean they thi k it is MORE likely he wins the popular vote, not less?
Maybe footballfan shouldn’t bet so much huh?
Of course it does.
I got 3:1 or more in 2016 on him winning… so there’s that. He was down 2% in the polls with a 3% margin of error ?
Yep
VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE
I keep reading in various quarters people hoping for a landslide. Well guess what, sunshine? That is up to YOU. It doesn’t matter if you live in MA, CA, OR, IL, etc. You go vote. You wave your Trump “Make Liberals Cry Again” flag. You tell your friends take nothing for granted. Millions of Americans are caught behind enemy lines in blue states. If you are one of these people, you need to VOTE. You need to destroy Biden’s margin in blue states and make him run ads in places he didn’t think he would need to run ads.
This is our race to win.
As I said before: We VOTE. We WIN. On a side note, the President will overperform in Blue States as well and can will the popular vote because of this. Here in MA, we will surpass 2016 numbers. We WANT to be on record as voting for the Greatest President ever in the most important election in our history.
Yes to blueMA’s red minority stepping up stronger than ever…
And the other 11,600 (approximately) members of my private FB group of MA women for Trump, which was only at 3,000 or so when I was invited to join about 5 weeks ago, agree!
And Singer (hey, I’m one too if you mean vocalization), if you’re in Seth Moulton’s district don’t forget a vote for John Paul Moran. It would be awesome to put the first MAGA R in the solidly socialist MA delegation to Congress, wouldn’t it?
I think a lot of his voters in blue states realize (and are tired of hearing about) Hillary “winning” the popular vote caused problems for the President. You also have the fact that in some of the close states in 2016 even some Republicans sat that one out thinking Clinton was going to win MN, WI, MI, PA, etc. All of those fence-sitters have reason to go out en masse and pull the lever for Trump too.
The Democrats’ strategy is basically rope-a-dope. They’re not holding big rallies or drawing attention to Biden in any way. My (D) friends on social media are unusually quiet this year whereas my Trump voting friends are active on social media. Such a strange year.
I think they think that the only way they can win is if they do not talk at all about their policies or make any waves at all. A (D) friend of mine who voted against Clinton in 2016 (he’s not a Trump guy, he just hated Clinton more) even remarked after a Biden speech that Biden should talk less about his policies…he knows the policies stink and wants the election to be about Trump’s personality.
Such a strange year.
Absolutely true! Since the ‘Progressives’ want to discard the electoral college, and use the popular vote to define legitimacy, every vote counts… so we really need all the blue state votes as well as red state votes. When Trump wins the popular vote as well as the electoral college vote, liberal tears will be a flood.
FYI the odds of PDJT winning the popular vote are going down. It was paying 4:1, now it’s only 3.3:1.
Ok…and?
This great; meaning they realize Trump will win the popular Vote.
The payout on the bet is going down, his odds of winning are going up.
The payout on the bet is going down, his odds of winning are going up.
I hope you don’t bet on football because you don’t see, to know how odds work!
20 to 1 is a longshot. 2 to 1 is the favorite. jus sayin’…
10:9 is even money with the bookies taking their cut. 2:1 is you bet 100, win 200 and get your hundred back; for a total of 300.
I’ll stop there as this thread is not about betting it odds.
My point is, Vegas thinks PDJT’s odds of winning are improving.
I very ineloquently trying to support SD’s argument that all the polls are BS.
Every News Papers or Network’s’ website I check say—“Democrats Crush Republicans in Early voting.”
Can anyone guide me some other sites to look for the true?
I don’t believe them!
It’s fake. Most thing I’ve seen show Republicans ahead or keeping pace with the Dems.
Larry has great granular analysis.
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I’ve been tracking the NC stats. Dems got out to a large lead thanks to vote by mail and then showing up to vote early in person as they usually do. Unfortunately they have been turning out new voters…nearly 300k who didn’t vote in 2016. But there have been 200k new R voters too. The good news is that trend is showing that Dems have exhausted their ammo. Yesterday just as many Rs voted as Ds, and the independent/unaffiliated vote is roughly 55% R, meaning we won the vote tally yesterday (that doesn’t happen normally, esp this early in the early voting period. R voting has been very strong too, and if this trend holds along with the trend of waning D votes, we win NC easy. We’re down about 350k now, but we won election by 300k last time and so far both Rs and Ds have pillaged about 100k votes each from Election Day vote, so unless there is any substantial difference in the internals, I would expect a 300k net gain on ED. In the meantime, we will have to watch how fast the Rs can catch up in these last 11 days of early voting. We won by 173k in 2016. It’s too early to predict this go around, but it does appear both sides will draw a larger vote total than 2016.
Correction…we won Election Day by 300k
The problem is not that they all lie; the problem is that they actually believe their lies.
Whether they wanted Hillary to win or hope for Biden to win, their wishes drive their reality. There’s no devious vast scheme in place to plot these outcomes, it’s a culture of like-minded true believers. When polling is done and comes back with undesired results, there is disbelief that amounts to a feeling that the data must be wrong, so it’s done over until the proper result is achieved. The result of a society of true believers is a fantasy web of beliefs that reinforce each other.
Of course it’s not all innocent; all it takes is one or two initial polls put out by those engineering the narrative and all the true believers fall in line. And come election night 2020, the shock will be just as great as in 2016.
And then that explains all the interest putting in place late receipt and counting of ballots (aka ballot harvesting). Anything to make the results match the hoped for outcome.
Don jr dirtied up at the Tower meeting to offset the known to come Hunter issue.
Every event to trump connected to matching a biden issue.
Indeed, WhiteBoard.
That’s why I’ve been unable to get this image out of my head of Hunter Biden playing a messy game with some ladies of the evening on a bed in Moscow… It just makes sense!
Of course, that said, I have no evidence of any sort – just a wild theory… which is way too sort of Adam-Schiffty-speak, so no one should go away buying this.
At all.
/s
Tonight (7:30 pm) I’m flipping back and forth between cnn and fox news…
“Everything you are witnessing right now is about psychological control to create the false illusion of reality within your own mind. ”
cnn = obama as the GREAT BLACK HOPE for creepy joe!!d now comes the FBI
fox = frank fahrenkopf (debate commissioner) as a “fair and (un)balanced” guest…
and now comes the FBI on fox…2 minute warning before an “announcement”.
Everyone one I’ve spoken with says they are either dropping their ballots off or voting in person on November 3, 2020.
Of course the early voting favor the Dems right now because we haven’t even begun.
26 Million have voted early so far.
We must hold the senate, that is key.
Also key to get rid of Speaker Nancy. That would really go a long way to get the Trump agenda fulfilled.
Excuse me, ma’am, ma’am . . . your feet are on the white line.
Real Clear Politics 15 years ago was still a useful tool. The data was still influenced by good polling and statistical practice. That all ended shortly thereafter, and by 2008 Obama’s handlers knew favorable data would be flooding their way, and our way. Today, I see no value in clicking on RCP, nor Drudge for that matter. It’s all been bought and coopted. Rasmussen was good for a while longer but like Drudge, he took the money and sold his soul, and now those once solid institutions are pure gaslight houses. It’s sad.
Doesn’t matter though. Calling Trump a nazi worked 4 years ago, and depressed his vote, but now only a real dummy would believe that. So I’d expect Trump’s vote is 1-3 points greater on that alone, that those 1-3 points are now comfortable that Trump’s not a nazi even though the gaslighters are still shrieking so.
Now add (even minor) increases in the black vote, hispanic vote, various economic groupings and you have a Trump win almost certainly. The gaslighters are claiming that Trump’s bleeding the senior voters and women voters, but the above incremental increases counter any such effects, and I don’t believe the effects are real in any event. I think Trump will win this going away, and there’s a chance he wins it going FAR away.
And the gaslighters should be swinging from lampposts shortly thereafter.
Sundance: YES!!! They LIED! I enjoy Mollie Hemingway but I cringe when she says things like “the gullible media” “ran with” the Russia story. Wrong. They were not GULLIBLE! They were part of the coup. Period. The gullible people were the mainstream media consumers, if anyone was gullible, Other words would be stupid, cowardly, lazy and foolish. But the media do not have those excuses.
She covers for her peers just like the crooked politicians cover for each other.
This year they played themselves.
Back in 2016 Hillary was a believable prospect. Sure she had her health problems and she could be irritating but she actually made an effort to appear as though she was something people could vote for. Her campaign appeared as though her victory was plausible. In fact the polling was designed to make DJT’s victory to appear improbable.
Fast forward to 2019. Even though the Democrat Primary was a mess the trends were that in the Democrat field of candidates was destined to be the Democrat version of Jeb! that the Republicans saw four years earlier: the sure-fire establishment party favorite that had the backing and the money to make the choice a fait accompli, but just couldn’t get delegates. Even then, just like Jeb! (please clap), Biden had loser stink all over him. But unlike the weaker Republican establishment, the Democrat establishment would not be denied. They steamrolled all the other candidates to drop out according to their script and Biden emerged victorious and somehow weaker.
After the wrongness of the polls in 2016 and the games played in the Democrat primary anyone with half a brain knew not to trust the media, even if it presented a version of “reality” that you agreed with. The media does not present the actual news of the day, with the facts and context that assist you with understanding what is happening in the world. It presents a “narrative”, where information is revealed, omitted, minimized, amplified, prioritized, folded, spindled, and/or mutilated to manipulate you according to their agenda. Anyone who ignores this after noticing it is a fool.
Poets, priests and politicians
Have words to thank for their positions.
Words that scream for your submission,
And no one’s jamming their transmission.
Because when their eloquence escapes you
Their logic ties you up and rapes you.
-Sting
Edit: Biden is the Democrat’s Jeb!.
I’m sorry I made a mistake. I meant to say the FBI stated that Iran and Russia are interfering with our elections !!!!!!
It is absolutely unbelievable what the FBI just did. Interrupting television stations to announce that Iran and the FBI are interfering with our elections. This is just to try to convince people who are ignorant that all the stuff coming out on Joe Biden and his son is all lies and coming from Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia, the Democrats are never going to stop. It is not Russia, Russia, Russia it’s the Democrats the Democrats the Democrats !!! How stupid do they think we are ???
It’s pure Alinskyism. They’re not really concerned if people believe it. It’s agitate, agitate, agitate. Always keep the pot boiling, keep poking and jabbing, never let up, never a moment’s peace.
Biden Vs. Trump Poll Shows President’s Support At New High In Tight Race: IBD/TIPP
Urge ALL TREEPERS to check daily IBD/TIPP Poll Updated 9 AM ET daily through Nov 3…IBD/TIPP & Trafalgar were the ONLY two polls to call DJT’s win in 2016.
http://www.investors.com
FTA:
Head-To-Head Biden Vs Trump Poll
In a head-to-head Biden vs. Trump poll, the Democratic nominee leads by 1.8 points, 48.7%-46.9%, his smallest lead to date.
Biden’s support has slipped 4 points since Oct. 12 in the one-on-one matchup, while Trump’s support is up 4.6 points.
Biden’s head-to-head lead is slightly narrower because Trump sheds a bit more support to the Libertarian candidate in a four-way race…..
(SNIP)
Trump Poll Comeback May Reflect Issue Focus
Recent presidential elections have been fought mainly over which candidate’s economic policies are better. This year features a broader issue landscape, with a once-in-a-century pandemic, nationwide protests against racial injustice and a Supreme Court nomination that promises a major ideological shift.
The latest IBD/TIPP presidential poll finds that the single most-important issue for voters is the economy (named by 32% of likely voters), followed by the coronavirus response (19%), health care (13%), law and order (12%), race relations (9%) and the Supreme Court (6%).
There’s a clear divide between Biden and Trump voters over which set of issues matter most, notes TIPP President Raghavan Mayur.
Voters selecting the economy as the top issue back Trump, 57%-17%. Trump also leads among voters most concerned about law and order (68%-14%) and the Supreme Court (58%-23%).
Biden leads among voters most concerned about the coronavirus response (70%-12%), health care (54%-21%) and race relations (74%-6%).
“The number of voters who think Trump issues (economy, law and order, and Supreme Court) are important exceeds those who think Biden issues are important (COVID, health care, and race relations),” Mayur said.
The IBD/TIPP presidential poll shows that voters’ priorities have shifted over the past 10 days. Now Trump issues are the No. 1 issue for 50% of voters, while Biden issues are the top concern of 41% of voters. On Oct. 12, that split was 47% Trump issues and 44% Biden issues.
That shift “is propelling the change” in the Trump vs. Biden race, Mayur believes….MORE:
https://www.investors.com/news/biden-vs-trump-poll-donald-trump-new-high-in-tight-race-ibd-tipp-presidential-poll/
Even Barack Obama didn’t trust Stanley McCrystal. THAT should tell us something!
If I was Obama I would stay out of public, his demise would rally their troops. He’s not that smart.
How does the future improve if our media, celebrities, politicians, corporate masters are aligned with foreign powers and hostile systems (communism)? I can’t see anything but war or worse…a slow boil collapse of the country with balkanized, endless, IRA style conflict and assassinations/bombings everywhere. Although I guess even the UK moved on to Islamic terror so things do “change”. Ugh.
Bring it on:
https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/status/1319049175661686784
Here in Asheville NC, local leftist newspaper report on Kamila’s visit:
https://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/2020/10/21/kamala-harris-visits-asheville-critical-fight-nc-voters-protesters-unca-election-campaign/6005266002/
ASHEVILLE Vice presidential candidate Sen. Kamala Harris was greeted by a small but enthusiastic crowd in Asheville Tuesday, urging local voters to cast their ballots early and painting a stark comparison between her running mate, Vice President Joe Biden, and President Donald Trump.
….
Allison was one of nearly 50 supporters who waited outside Sen. Harris’ event, looking for a chance to cheer on the first Vice Presidential female candidate of color.
A slightly smaller, but vocal contingent of President Trump supporters stood on the other side of the street, holding signs focused on the recent extramarital affair of Democratic U.S. Senate candidate Cal Cunningham.
Cunningham admitted earlier this month to sending sexual text messages to a California strategist who is not his wife.
…..(imo, this is precious…)
Campaign staff said the crowd was intentionally kept small and the event site private for COVID-19 safety reasons and in an effort to stay under North Carolina’s 50-person gathering limit.
Approximately 40 people attended, including Stephen Roach King, who missed the planned event last week but tried harder to make Tuesday’s…..
And here is the local ABC affiliate reporting on it (shows and interviews Trump supporters:
https://wlos.com/news/local/supporters-opponents-gather-in-hopes-of-seeing-sen-harris-during-asheville-campaign-stop
Hi everyone, back in 2016 we always got intense polling scrutiny in the comments from a poster named floperog or something like that…haven’t heard from then since. Anyone know who I’m talking about?
I do. He gave daily updates on Florida and Ohio’s voting numbers. I wondered where he went, too.
F lepore blog
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they are going to lose.
and they are going to lose…BIGLY.
you know it.
i know it.
they know it.
and that is why they are telling lies.
turn them off.
and Trump is going to flip california red.
remember the 4th of july fireworks.
thats not a prediction.
thats a spoiler.
if i’m wrong…i’ll own it.
BIG night.
HISTORIC night.
NOVEMBER.
IS.
COMING.
Oh, Eric if CA flips red there won’t be enough champagne in this state for the celebration. From your fingers to God’s ears. Impossible? Nope, all we need is a supreme convergence of all allied forces, worldly and heavenly.
It would be a dream come true, but I cannot imagine CA going RED. POTUS could very well get more votes there than last time because of the draconian C-19 rules imposed by Newsom, but there are just way, WAY too many crazies there — Bernie Sanders won the primary, after all. That said, I hope you’re right ?
To Sundance’s point, here’s a fabulous piece by Daniel Greenfield:
Conservatives MUST fight Big Tech or we will lose everything.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/10/conservatives-must-fight-big-tech-or-lose-daniel-greenfield/
All this poling info is suspect.
Use the poll that’s actually and honestly called three correctly out of the last four.
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/10/13/…
You really don’t need anything more.
Could not agree more Sundance. It is a massive exercise in voter suppression!
Harris has to be one of the all-time stiffs ever to run for political office. There’s no appeal there whatsoever. The wisdom. No appearance of wisdom. No intellect on display. No reason for existing as a candidate. We are talking all the time dud. Watch this. It’s only a couple minutes long. You will wish you didn’t.
star – all the reasons you give for Heels Up being the worst candidate makes her the perfect candidate, IMO. She should keep doing what she’s doing, we will happily reap the rewards of PDJT’s second term.
Would say these crackpot polls are about consistently about 7.5 points off.
To make it easy just drop 4 clicks from sleepy Joe and add 4 to Trump.
So where some polling outfit shows Biden up 49 – 44 in some state;
the true number is most likely Joe Biden down 45 – 48 to Trump.
Had to buy Creamer for my coffee today. Expiry date of November 3. I’m taking it as a positive omen! Gotta make it last!
I would like to add to Sundance’s comment : The MSM narrative has another purpose – to convince everyone in the DS that they are doing the right thing and will win. As George Constanza said in Seinfeld “It’s not a lie if you believe it”. If the DS people though they were definitely going to lose, they wouldn’t be doing what they are doing. If Strozk and Page etc knew Hillary was going to lose in 2016, they wouldn’t bothered with operation Crossfire Hurricane. The only reason they went ahead with it is because they thought what they were doing would guarantee an already probable Hillary win. The same applies now. If the DS’ers thought Trump would win big, they wouldn’t be doing any of this. The MSM narrative is there not only to shape public opinion, but to shape DS oppinion.
The one thing they got REALLY wrong was they refused to listen to their best (POS) candidate (liar) Bill Clinton and ignored the majority of the electorate. They have also been caught in a perpetual lie for four years. The best position to be in as a candidate is a slight underdog. They have always positioned themselves as way ahead and everyone hates Trump. They haven’t been able to get out of this lie in four years. As a result their voters assume the election is in the bag and don’t show up! What they started with Biden up 12-16 points has already taken hold in the minds of their voters and they will stay home on election day.
I’m not worried about the actual voters and the results…it should be a Trump victory easily. It is the truckloads of newly found ballots that have me concerned.
The morons at “The Lincoln Project” along with many other fakers and poseurs in the MSM fell for the Iranian hoax email purporting to be from the “Proud Boys” — anyone with a brain suspected a hoax immediately, but The Lincoln Project grifters were happy to amplify the Iranian disinformation.
Maybe they are glad someone finds them useful.
All this is understood by us. Half the country believe the propaganda.
My greatest concern is again reading on a private blog that most of us UNDERESTIMATE the corruption behind this election and the real potential to steal the election. It’s a private blog so I’m not going to say the source except that he is HIGHLY, HIGHER reputable worldwide, with AI forecasting that has also forecast the presidential winners. Trump might “win” but if it’s stolen, he ‘loses’. It’s very volatile.
I am highly concern. The in-persin vote has to be so enormously high that they would be unable to steal in.
All we can do at this point is vote and make sure other Trump and GOP voters turn out. There is nothing much we can do about any of the other stuff.
MAGADJT—-We can help others get to the polling stations and such, and, most importantly, we can, and MUST, pray! And repent and change our own lives!!!!
The right answers. All of them.
Maybe some of you are rolling your eyes about my comment here. This crap just drives me to the edge sometimes. Please just remember that I’m not perfect, but I am forgiven.
Praying will not affect election results. That is not the way God works.
Six geese, don’t do that, you are not God by any means and prayer is not limited by any means, none. The infinite answers cannot be grasped by any mind in this body on this earth. It’s our Lords will to pray, he cannot lie, so pray. Pray what your heart desires in the word (Jesus name).
You must have a different God than I do. My God does in fact answer pray request daily with NO restrictions, My God heals, creates, loves, comforts and disciplines. My God looks after us all. In Jesus’ name I praise him and give him thanks for all things.
And yes sixgeese, he appoints leaders of nations even the United States.
I love love love that picture. Reminds me of my goofy dog.
I am and have been going on the assumption just by the crowds that attend our President’s rallies and the fact even Harris can’t fill up the men’s room at a truck stop that Trump is going to win bigly. To contemplate otherwise is too horrible and the stuff of nightmares.
And the Trumpster is going to do a rally in Asheville. They must know something is happening there for him to even go to that Leftist shithole.
>>most of us UNDERESTIMATE the corruption behind this election and the real potential to steal the election
MaineCoon:
I believe that you are sooo right. The recent exposes in (some) conservative media concerning “color revolution” tactics and the “Transition Integrity Project” wargaming ways to steal the election are frightening in their audacity. Particularly when one looks at the powerful players involved, and knowing that they’ve already tried to undo the 2016 election and impeach a President on fabricated grounds — so would have no compulsion about stealing the election.
THAT is why the allied media is jiggering the polls — for the color revolution and (fabricated) challenges to the re-election of Donald Trump, the public has to believe that the race was indeed close, and that Biden was genuinely in the running.
It is also why they keep asking Trump if he’ll peacefully leave office — setting up to allege that his valid legal efforts to protect his victory are actually him trying to steal the election.
We’re confronting Satanic evil here, and people doing that bidding (some knowingly, many useful idiots).
We must never give power to these lunatics. Spread the word if DT wants a soldier then tell him to click his heels together and I am there. We need organization. But that’ll come with pain. I have always known this was our fate. We have a limited window to strike after the election if we will lose. I’m actually not a soldier; just a man who believes in America who is ready to die for her.
We’re not going to lose but after 11/3 gloves come off. Anyone who is caught with large scale fireworks or Molotov cocktails needs to be put down. Get ready now.
MaineCoon,
In my best Diceman dialect :
“Two words!!!”
Smith-Mundt
https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/smith-mundt-modernization-act-2012
I share your concern. Although we all know Trump would win in a landslide if the vote was fair, unfortunately it will be anything but. And given the stakes, I cannot see the Left losing this election. The Enemedia has exposed its hypocrisy, as has Big Tech. They did that for a reason–the same reason a card player shoves all his chips to the middle of the table.
Except I do not believe they are bluffing. Hope and pray I am wrong.
There IS something much bigger going on here from the beginning of Trump’s campaign. If you look at the Natural odds of Trump winning the nomination, the efforts against Trump to even qualify as a republican Candidate, the defeat of 16 other candidates for the Republican nominee, first Article Impeachment to Trump was 17 minutes after his inaugural speech, the General Flynn inditement, the Muller Probe, Schiff’s phony play for pay scheme when Schiff thought he was auditioning for a part in the re-run of “Schiff; GODFATHER Of CONGRESS” “eight times” Shiff stated in the phone call Trump wanted Play for pay from Ukraine, it is interesting that in Biblical Numerology 8 means “New Beginning.” Is Trump the “New Beginning?” The end to status quo? Then we have another Article Of Impeachment that went to Vote, then to the Senate, all this time Trump has outperformed any President in History as to keeping his promises. He has totally turned the “Washington Clinton/DNC Machine” on it’s head. Now the very timely discovery of Hunter’s laptops, the REAL “play for pay,” the selfies of Hunter’s Junk, pictures of child abuse and disgraceful pedo acts, and tortures of Chinese children along with a 14-year-old girl, a Biden relative. The forces, Good versus Evil, have collided, the ‘vector’ is established, the “direction” or “resultant,” has definitely changed the paradigm. Next will be the General Flynn stuff to drop before election day. How sweet would that be? Gen Flynn knows all about the Iranian deal and Joes Biden’s connection to the deaths of Seal Team 6. It was all set up for Obama’s political theater for re-election.
All the blackmail material now used against them for good. “The wealth of the rich is laid up for the just” huh!
“The US government said Iran was also responsible for spreading disinformation about voter fraud through a video linked in some of the emails.”
Is this the same video that caused Benghazi? Obama? Anyone?
Of note amongst all the predictions & fakery…. A co worker of mine, about 48 yrs old, voted yesterday for the very first time in her life, here in NM, early voting, and proudly announced it this morning. Trump & all Republican.