The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

For the past week CTH has been outlining some lengthy research, highlighting key issues to help understand the background of what is evident.  If you’ve followed along, in this outline the individual pieces will all come together.  Bill Barr has a very big problem…

Andrew McCabe cannot be prosecuted in 2020 for the same reason James Wolfe could not be prosecuted in 2018. When we understand why we realize the problem that Michael Flynn now represents to U.S. Attorney Bill Barr.

United States Attorney General Bill Barr was not around in 2017 or 2018 when the DOJ was faced with the issues resulting from an investigation of intelligence leaks and Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) Security Director James Wolfe.

When the prosecution of SSCI Director James Wolfe was being considered, AG Jeff Sessions was recused; the Robert Mueller probe was ongoing; and as a consequence Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein and U.S. Attorney for DC Jessie Liu were decision-makers.

I’m not going to repeat all the issues, you can re-read them HERE; however, the baseline is that Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government. The consequences of a Wolfe prosecution were beyond the capacity of Rod Rosenstein, or the DOJ to handle.  There would have been massive constitutional crises created and the literal definition of ‘sedition‘ was at the center of it.

Accepting the 2018 objectives from Rosenstein; and factually I doubt Jeff Sessions would have made a different decision even if he was not recused; when AG Barr takes the helm in February 2019 he is forced to carry-over those same objectives.

In essence, regardless of Bill Barr’s outlook or opinion of what took place, he had no alternative except to defend the previous decisions.  As a result Barr has no option except to protect Rod Rosenstein.

If former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe was ever to be prosecuted the same issues that surfaced with James Wolfe would surface again.  The actions by DAG Rosenstein in 2017 merged with the objectives of Andrew McCabe at the same time. {SEE HERE}

It can be debated whether Rosenstein collaborated with McCabe purposefully, or whether he was blind to the prior year corrupt activity within the DOJ/FBI and fell into a trap.  It doesn’t really matter what Rosenstein’s 2017 motives were; the facts show Rosensteins’ actions facilitated the goals of McCabe and the corrupt actors within the DOJ/FBI.

Those actions had consequences, very serious consequences, and those consequences are what matters.

There is no way of prosecuting Andrew McCabe without putting Rod Rosenstein into the same crosshairs of consequence. {Go Deep} Rosenstein facilitated the FBI operations being run by Comey, McCabe, Baker, Strzok, Page, Clinesmith, Pientka and eventually culminating in Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissman et al.

When you truly understand this context you also understand why Joseph Pientka III has a blanket protective order over him.  The all-encompassing protective order is as much about preserving and protecting the institution of the DOJ as it is protecting the fulcrum of corrupt activity Supervisory Special Agent One, Joseph Pientka III, represents.

The DOJ had to throw a bag over Pientka or eliminate him.  Thankfully, and not surprisingly, they chose the former and now he’s under protection.

DAG Rosenstein could not prosecute James Wolfe without exposing ‘seditious‘ activity within the U.S. government itself.  Not pretend sedition or theoretical sedition, but an actual pre-planned subversive operation with forethought and malice.

Likewise AG Bill Barr cannot prosecute Andrew McCabe without exposing the same ‘seditious‘ activity; which also encompasses the activity of Rod Rosenstein.  Whether Barr wants to protect Rosenstein is moot; if Barr wants to protect the institutions from sunlight on two years of actual seditious activity, he has to protect Rosenstein.

It’s the underlying activity that cannot be allowed to surface; the institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap all three branches of government. [ex. read former questions]

However, that said, now AG Bill Barr is facing a downstream and parallel issue within the prosecution of Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.  How can Michael Flynn be sentenced for lying to the FBI when the DOJ is necessarily refusing to prosecute Andrew McCabe (at least what has been made public) for the exact same behavior?

Against this dynamic, the DOJ has two options: (Option A) go even harder at General Flynn using additional charges that are not as comparable to McCabe.  (Option B) find a way to drop the prosecution.

This dynamic is why the McCabe prosecution was not resolved in 2018.  This issue explains why there has been such a delay in the McCabe issue(s) since Bill Barr came into the picture in February 2019.

If Flynn just took the plea, everything would have been easier for the DOJ.  There would have been nothing to compare between the two, and time would have created distance to avoid any real comparison.  But Flynn reversed position and backed away from the plea.

So what do we see?

We see McCabe given an institutionally necessary free pass, and now Barr bringing in another federal prosecutor from St. Louis to reevaluate Flynn’s position.  The two options are again being debated: Crush Flynn on other matters; or drop it.

Take the totality of all these issues together.  Think about them for a while…

…Now do we see why AG Bill Barr needs President Trump to shut up?

Rod Rosenstein essentially protected James Wolfe because he saw no way the institutions of the U.S. government could survive the potential evidence in a trial.  Setting aside opinion on Rosenstein’s enabling of the sedition; enabling underpinning seditious activity; the decision makes sense.  [Consequences too big to jail]

Bill Barr is essentially protecting Andrew McCabe, and as a consequence Rod Rosenstein, out of a similar necessity.  From AG Barr’s perspective, there’s no way the institutions of government could survive the potential evidence at a McCabe trial; and McCabe would call Rosenstein as a defense witness.   [Consequences too big to jail]

At the heart of the matter, in the real activity that took place, there was a multi-branch seditious effort to remove President Donald J Trump.  From the perspective of those charged with the actual administration of justice – there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive.  What we are witnessing is a dance between increasingly narrowing rails and the DOJ trying to find an exit.

All of this 2020 angst is a downstream consequence of the 2018 decision not to prosecute James Wolfe; and the specific reason why they made that decision.

Those who framed the sedition recognize Bill Barr’s outlook on institutional preservation is an opportunity to weaponize against him. That is why four prosecutors could so easily defy his authority and set Barr up with the Roger Stone sentencing recommendation.

The Lawfare team know Bill Barr is trying to navigate away from exposing seditious  corruption the same Lawfare team helped facilitate.  The Lawfare group know Barr cannot prosecute McCabe; and they know exactly why. The Lawfare group can also see Barr protecting Rosenstein; and again, they know the reason why.

The corrupt crew saw what the DOJ and FBI did when they had the opportunity to expose it all in 2018.  DAG Rosenstein was afraid.

In 2020 AG Barr’s value for the institutions is also why AG Barr is afraid…

The seditious group filled the DOJ fire truck tanks with gasoline, and then they lit the House on fire.  General Flynn is trapped on the roof…. The neighborhood is shouting at fire Chief Barr “put out the fucking fire you idiots“, and wondering why everyone is just watching the House burn. Meanwhile, there’s several firefighters who know what’s in the tanks, and they are standing, smiling, hoses at the ready, cheering-on the angry shouts from the crowd…

Washington Post Article Here

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President Trump says: Point the compromised firehoses at the smiling firefighters while making them hold the Zippo’s… then watch what happens.

The only way I can see out of this mess; the one crack in the current lock box; is the FISA court order for the DOJ to present the identified downstream consequences from fraud upon the court.  The FISC might actually be the ladder truck here.  With the DOJ and FBI currently assembling the investigative consequences, ie. the sequestration material, Flynn’s current legal status might be identified as an outcropping of fraudulently obtained FISA warrants.

Let’s hope those on the sequestration mission can return the information prior to the flames reaching the roof…

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1,327 Responses to The Sentencing of Michael Flynn Represents a Very Big Problem for AG Bill Barr…

  1. Pete says:

    It’s TRUE – real change can only be achieved through violent means.

    Liked by 1 person

    • zekness says:

      I agree….

      but let me give you another way to consider it..

      real change can also happen when you can re-arrange perceptions about trust and produce a society that does nothing about it’s own self interest.

      that the real change that worries me.

      that the current installment of americans will be led by the corruptors and will do nothing to stop them.

      that would be real change..and it would likely be final.

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  2. zekness says:

    the game

    a pandemic disease is cutting a large and deep death scar across the planet.

    government understands the reality of this threat. They cannot contain it.

    It IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT IS INEVITABLE.

    government/officials look upon this crisis and see the situation demands some kind of action but all of them represents one kind of risk and unintended consequence

    a. do nothing and let the pandemic burn its way through to the end.

    b. invoke controls and inform the public, but realize the panic will imbalance the entire structure and economy of the world creating an effect likely to be far worse than the natural result of the disease itself.

    c. misinformation/misdirection about the disease so that the public is not aware of the existential threat until there is a certain level of deaths that makes it impossible for anyone to ignore a real threat is upon them.

    Here is where we are: we are somewhere between the very first days of this pandemic that has not been called out for what it is and the people are not being informed. The government’s argument right now rests on the theory that a greater risk beyond the massive deaths exists…that people will depart from the economy, seek a depressionary state, isolate themselves and thus the powers of government will decline. The governments does these things because of these threats both internall and for the threats that exist externally. In one aspect, they respect the responsibility to provide protections to the “institutions” but also the “nation” itself because the two must exist with solid level of mutually assured benefits. Kill the people, the government fails…kill the government the people fail. they see no best outcomes by informing the people of the crisis…so they take the higher responsibility to do the unthinkable: we must lie to the people, to protect them, from themselves. We cannot have faith that the people will understand what to do in this crisis, so we will hide the realities from them about it. We can handle this crisis, knowing that over the course of time, that many people will die. Our higher moral duty is to allow that to happen in order to save the one and only thing that allows continuity….the faith and the trust of people must be maintained…even if by fraud.

    the difference here, is that this pandemic is man made. And there are just a few super-spreaders that can be eliminated and contained to prevent a full blown world ender. A cure IS KNOWN. The people CAN BE saved. A vaccination does exist.

    the problem is that the state is arguing that a vaccination cannot be allowed to be known and available. The problem here is that in order to treat the symptoms of this man made disaster requires that the doctors themselves, not only admit they have created this disease, intentionally, but also that they have continued to spread it KNOWINGLY…only so that they can have bigger houses, exotic cars in the garage, and mistresses for hire at every stop, and the excesses that can only be accomplished by the routine abuse of trust and power that is afforded to them by their assumed positions of responsibility…the oath they take to protect and to save the patient….has been broken…by them…for a base appetite for power and enrichment.

    we are right now in pandemic….the knowledge of this disease has become known in the smaller corners….we see the inner conversations as the corruptors are engaged in the misinformation campaign to protect themselves.

    they resist calling it a disease, but rather a simple cold, because that would invite the questions of what about a vaccine

    they have no intention of having even that conversation…

    take this pill…a placebo…and get back to work.

    as we watch the world burn.

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  3. TwoLaine says:

    Yes, the whole ruckus about President TRUMP.s tweets about INJUSTICE is that they don’t want him talking about James Wolfe. Or the Awan Brothers. Or Roger Stone. Or Mike Flynn. Or Crowdstrike. Or the Biden’s. Or the Corrupt Clinton’s. Or the Korrupt Kenyan. Because then they might have to defend their actions, and they know that THERE IS NO DEFENSE, for ANY of them.

    It’s OK for DIM Presidents “If I had a son”, “Not a Smidgeon” to talk about Injustice and blow up cities across the country by inserting themselves like parasites for YEARS. It is not OK for Republican President’s to talk about it. They must be SHUT UP and SHUT DOWN.

    #WhenIsTheBigUgly

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    • TwoLaine says:

      AND, they don’t want you talking about Seth Rich either!

      Last week in one of the Presidential Open Threads I posted two links of new FOIA materials obtained through lawsuits by Judicial Watch. In one of those are are communicatioms between the lovebirds, Peter and Lisa, about Seth Rich.

      Judicial Watch is sueing for any records related to Seth Rich:

      Stone Fiasco by Deep State DOJ, Judicial Watch Sues for Seth Rich Documents, & MORE!
      14 Feb 2020
      TOM FITTON’S VIDEO WEEKLY UPDATE

      “I know many Americans remain concerned about the murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich.

      We know that the Seth Rich controversy came up in Peter Strzok-Lisa Page emails we just uncovered. In a heavily redacted August 10, 2016, email exchange, Strzok sends Page a forwarded message from unidentified agents from the FBI’s Washington Field Office (WFO) discussing Rich.

      A public affairs official whose name was redacted opens the WFO email chain, writing:

      Various news outlets are reporting today that Julian Assange suggested during a recent overseas interview that DNC Staffer, Seth Rich was a Wikileaks source, and may have been killed because he leaked the DNC e-mails to his organization, and that Wikileak’s was offering $20,000 for information regarding Rich’s death last month. Based on this news, we anticipate additional press coverage on this matter. I hear that you are in class today; however, when you have a moment, can you please give me a call to discuss what involvement the Bureau has in the investigation.

      An unidentified WFO agent responds: “I’m aware of this reporting from earlier this week but not any specific involvement in any related case.”

      An unidentified WFO agent subsequently writes deputy assistant director in the bureau’s Counterintelligence Division Jonathan Moffa and Strzok: “Just FYSA. I squashed this with [redacted]”.

      Strzok then forwards the email chain to Page.

      Now, seeking the full truth, we have filed a FOIA lawsuit against the FBI for all records related to Rich, who was the Democratic National Committee (DNC) Voter Expansion Data Director.

      Rich, 27, was murdered on July 10, 2016, according to the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia. The DC police reported that Rich was killed at approximately 4:19 a.m. in the 2100 block of Flagler Place NW, Washington, DC.

      No one has been charged in connection with Rich’s death. The DC police are offering a $25,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible.

      We filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia after the FBI failed to respond to our July 26, 2019, FOIA request seeking all records related to Rich and his murder (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Justice (No. 1:20-cv-00385)).

      There is significant public interest in the Seth Rich murder, and the FBI’s game-playing on document production in this case is inexcusable.”

      https://www.judicialwatch.org/videos/stone-fiasco-by-deep-state-doj-judicial-watch-sues-for-seth-rich-documents-more

      https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/man-shot-killed-in-northwest-dc/2074048

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      • Dwayne Diesel says:

        It gets murkier and murkier as it is trying to be drained.

        Liked by 2 people

      • Amy2 says:

        I don’t understand why Assange doesn’t just come out and say Seth Rich was the leaker. Is he protecting Wikileaks? Because at this point, do they need protecting? It’s not like he’s able right now to participate, so why not get the info out there and save himself, his sanity. I get that you don’t give up sources, but this particular source is dead.

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    • Zippy says:

      NOTHING has been done about any of this and never will be:



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    • Xena Laminak says:

      Is there an up-date to this. Gosh it seems like Jeffrey Epstein didn’t kill himself years ago. But it was only on August 10, 2019!

      Liked by 2 people

    • Emma S says:

      Question: Is what McCabe, et al, did be considered sedition?
      Question: Can sedition be tried in a military tribunal?

      If the answer to both above is “yes”, this is out of the DOJ’s jurisdiction.
      Bring on the military trials.

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2018-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states/

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      • TwoLaine says:

        Good luck with that. They won’t even touch Vindman, et al.

        Liked by 1 person

      • susanremer says:

        McCabe, Comey, Rostenstein, Mueller or Lynch & Holder for that matter, CONTROL NOTHING. They follow orders – from whom, we can only guess, but it’s not Bush, Obama, and the Clintons, as they are willingly following orders, too. None of them will ever see the inside of a courtroom or Gitmo for their crimes as it will reveal the upper reaches of the Food Chain. The whistleblowers have been effectively neutralized and shut down by Mueller’s snitch hunt and now Barr is holding the line. TPTB are waiting out our short attention span by whatever means necessary, including a horrific Wag the Dog events and Psyops. I don’t know whose side Trump is really on, but he has helped us see just how rotten it all is. Is this to dishearten us and wear us out running down the various rabbit holes and still no prosecutions occur? Hey, man, I did what I could … just keep voting and paying those taxes because you need to feed the Beast! Get right with Jesus – that is the only real solution left.
        CONTROL THE NARRATIVE
        CONTROL THE OPPOSITION
        CONTROL EVERYTHING

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  4. Patriot1783 says:

    All roads lead to the Obama, can’t have the fact known a previous President tried to take out the incoming President.
    Nope, must disregard facts how Obama came out of basically nowhere, jettison to the position of President, stay for 8 years and try to overturn the US via debt, zero economy, high unemployment and overrun it with illegals to ultimately get away with spying on the incoming president before and during his term without having repercussions to the reputation of the United States.
    One answer (if any) that could help resolve situation so scenario never happens again? A re-election term limit of x amount of years for member of Congress similar to the Presidential term limit. Ridiculous that some have been in
    Congress for 40 years +….makes a breeding ground for corruption and bad actors.

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    • DeWalt says:

      The protectors of the system ( swamp rats) spent decades setting up a system of wealth ( the institutions) that could be pillaged once you were in and were a ” Made Man”. Then along comes Trump like a thief in the night and starts putting locks on the cash boxes and shinning a light on all the rats in the building. The Swamp sees this as protecting their investment. To them it’s their building and their cash boxes. Trump is the thief.

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      • Orville R. Bacher says:

        The DOJ has a metastasizing cancer from within itself, a cancer that is likely terminal to all the institutions that participated in a Coup against an elected President.
        And that leaves a pretty clear choice. Cut the cancer out of the DOJ/FBI/CIA, et al, or lose the country.
        Country first, lying, corrupt bureaucrat Mobsters lanced out.

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        • rojobirds says:

          Exactly! Trust in the DOJ has already gone to sh.. 2-tier justice is already in play. So Barr needs to prosecute Wolfe, McCabe, and all coup plotters…and burn it down. BURN IT DOWN!

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    • George Dixon says:

      Brennan confirmed CIA participation. Comey confirmed FBI participation. Clapper confirmed NSA participation. Comey also confirmed DOJ participation. The ‘Dossier’ was paid for by the Hillary campaign and the DNC. The Obama DOJ, the Obama FBI, the Obama NSA and the Obama CIA did not do this while Obama was President without Obama’s authorization.

      To believe otherwise is to believe that those agencies acted on their own and coincidentally found each other working on the same goal. There was only one person with the authority (means), the desire to see Hillary beat Trump (motive) and control of the necessary Federal agencies (opportunity) and that is Barack Obama.

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      • plane of the ecliptic says:

        They will not charge President Obama, so why continue with the pony show? Why keep going? To confiscate Nellie Ohrs shortwave radio? I have to be mentally prepared to move on just like others who live under corrupt Governments.
        Choices are 1) Rebellion- Don’t see it happening 2) Do like the Pilgrims and bug out (but I don’t think there is any territory left on the planet) 3) Suck it up and try electing another Disruptor after PDJT.

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        • 2zymos says:

          THIS disrupter, PDJT, __IS__ the rebellion. It will be relatively well supported from my vantage point (high confidence level).

          We will probably NOT get a good shot at “electing another Disruptor” if Trump is (in general terms) unsuccessful and eliminating a lot of corruption, Corruptors, and the lies that have welded them in power positions for at least a couple of decades.

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        • Stephen Hernon says:

          What is say is the UNVARNISHED truth!! We cannot waste our time looking for justice with Hillary, Obama and the DOJ. The Obama people have gotten away with it but we now know what they tried to do and a new Congress can help a lot in preventing a recurrence for several decades. No matter how painful that is, it is much better to progress on an issue the majority wants than to butt heads and lock horns like two bulls in the field
          The President CAN weaken the deep state structure within his 2nd term by continually changing organizations at the margins initially and eventually more deeply. His battle experience would be an asset in moving more quickly. He would not have to wait until Jan 20th 2021 to act especially if he won the House and retained the Senate.
          It has always been true that decentralization of government is the only SURE way to prevent corruption and maintain freedom. The bean counters pulled the wool over our eyes based on money. Look at what has happened to education since the government grabbed the purse strings and control. It let loose people like Bill Gates and his evil Common Core. It is not enough that he has continuously screwed business, this unelected shmuck now intervenes in the lives of 350,000,000 people.

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      • Amy2 says:

        “Opportunity” (or opportunist) the key word here. He was either in on it, or inept. Both actually.

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    • Alano says:

      Obama is the real Manchurian candidate is the only explanation.

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    • Linda K. says:

      If Barr won’t prosecute, the corrupt Senators, IG’s and military must be forced out somehow. It seems he has to prosecute.

      Liked by 1 person

    • Melanie G Melancon says:

      I totally agree that term limits for Congress would stop the power building that corrupts 99% of the members. Two terms for senators and 6 for representatives would give them 12 years. The n they could go back home and work for a living. It will never be done exactly for the reason it should be done; because power has completely corrupted those who would have to change it. Until the American people rise up and demand change, corruption will remain.

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      • YvonneMarie says:

        Term limits for Congress 🇺🇸

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      • Marko Mendoza says:

        The Founders knew that entrenched government officials eventually wound up serving their own interests at the expense of the country. They saw government service to be more of a duty, an onerous task not unlike jury duty where at the completion of one’s service the citizen returned gratefully to his regular job. Like you, I don’t see this happening. Maybe the government need to collapse, and let the chips fall where they may.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      I believe it is worse than Obama attempting to take down an incoming President. The on-going Democrat Party primary points directly to the plan of the democrat party, which Hillary Clinton was supposed to continue.

      Move the US to being a “peoples democracy” and away from being a Democratic Republic by undoing the constitution.
      Move the government to being essentially a parliamentary government with a President ruling by pen and cell phone but mindful of ability of the party’s ability, via impeachment, to remove him.
      Growth of an elite class ruling the US economically and politically.
      Continued erosion of rights to ensure control of the populace.

      Listen to the platforms of ALL the democrat party candidates, even the two Billionaires.

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    • WSB says:

      Should all be the same for the entire government.

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  5. Bob Parker says:

    Call me over-simplistic I do note really care.

    It is PAST time to tear down those institutions (e.g. DOJ) that are now mortared in corruption!!

    Afraid that the SEDITIOUS behaviors/activities be uncovered? Damn the torpedoes & full God-damn speed ahead!! And of course, re-build it stronger than ever before.

    GITMO is not longer big enough? OK, build some more outside US pens elsewhere. Bring on the trials & let’s see the guilty verdicts. And for those requiring execution: Pay per view! Count me as a subscriber to it.

    Honestly gang, what good is our DOJ if it is evolving into a 2-tiered judicial system? And being weaponized for political revenge to boot!!

    Enough already!! Tear it down. Out with the trash!! Off with their heads!

    You get the picture.

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    • Jd says:

      Thanks for this response. I’m on my phone and not relishing typing. Who cares if the gov is strong enough to withstand. We the people are and AR yearning for the whole damn thing to burn to the ground. Start over. The patriots outnumber the criminals.

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      • LFOD603 says:

        Not buying the Col. Jesup ” you can’t handle the truth” … We The People certainly can … Dont listen to Barr Mr. President. If it all burns to the ground so be it.

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      • Sugarhillhardrock says:

        Damn straight, Jd.
        Either AG Barr cleans it up or patriots clean it up.
        If patriots have to do it, it will happen at a velocities of over 3000 feet a second and there will be no appeals process in this world.

        Do your damn job, AG Barr.

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    • inspectorudy says:

      “I’m not going to repeat all the issues, you can re-read them HERE; however, the baseline is that Wolfe could not be prosecuted without running the risk of collapsing key institutions of the U.S. government.”
      I strongly disagree with this statement from Sundance. The American people EXPECT that criminals at every level of government should be prosecuted! We ao not think that “Key institutions” will collapse. We know that there are good people in every agency that will step up and do their jobs. NO institutions will collapse if justice is done! Try it, you’ll like it!

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      • Jd says:

        I strongly agree! Bring the pain and watch Americans shine. Quit playing 4d chess Barr. JUSTICE IS SIMPLE.

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      • Orygun says:

        You either have a nation of laws or you don’t. Zero showed us it was a nation of man and proved it by ignoring laws and creating unconstitutional laws everyday.
        You have to follow the crime where it leads you and root it out.

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      • kleen says:

        “The American people EXPECT that criminals at every level of government should be prosecuted!”

        The American people decides NOTHING. We have a DOJ inside a DOJ being run by the deep state who goes by different set of laws.

        The crooks were investigating the crooks, the crooks want to keep on being crooked forever. If we the people found out how crooked the are we would demand justice. So the crooks are hiding the truth from the people because they like being crooked. If their sanctuary crooked DC swamp is finished then their fun is over. Why would they want that?

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    • Minuteman says:

      These commies and opportunists are cockroaches. If the DOJ, FBI, CIA, Senate, Courts are rancid bags of garbage they must be taken out.

      If the U.S. Government falls, so what? If it is so corrupt as to deny the American people its liberty, it must fall.

      What is unconstitutional becomes anticonstitutional in order to protect itself. It must be removed.

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    • doohmax says:

      Once I realized the coup involved the heads of every branch of government at the very highest levels, it became obvious that the Trump election was Armageddon for the bureaucratic/Intelligence state that developed in the vacuum of power after World War 2. To unwind the tentacles of this malignancy in 4 years would certainly destabilize the workings of all phases of government. I’m not optimistic that 4 or 8 years is enough. They only have to delay, obfuscate, and confuse the voters long enough to outlast the Trump phenomenon. Then it’s back to business as usual. Shut up. Get back to work. Pay your taxes. We’ve got everything under control. Hey. How bout that Super Bowl!!?

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    • Linda K. says:

      They will be harder to catch next time.

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    • Robert Ted Zach says:

      Totally agree. So much concern about protecting the institutions of government. If they were seditious, prosecute them. The American people can handle this. Clean it up!

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  6. Paul Gallant says:

    1Jn 5:19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.

    I shouted out,
    “Who killed the Kennedys?”
    When after all
    It was you and me

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  7. Kaco says:

    How does removing and prosecuting bad people from the DOJ, CIA, FBI etc., constitute “tearing down institutions”? What is the consequence of such actions re the institution itself? Replacing them with patriots?

    My opinion is Barr is destroying these institutions by not doing what is just and letting the bad people remain unpunished.

    But apparently, he only cares about the wrong opinion of Democrats, because he is ignoring the seething outrage of conservatives. We feel doing what ought to be done would be restoring these institutions. Democrats don’t care about the evil they have committed, they only care the end justify the means in order to gain and maintain power.

    We should have a massive mailing campaign to the DOJ addressed to Barr.
    “Stop protecting Rosenstein and Mueller by letting these people off the hook. By not applying justice to the wrong doers you are actually destroying these institutions.”

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    • Jederman says:

      The practical result of “protecting the institutions” is a (likely) doubling down of INSTITUTIONAL corruption. There has been not one whiff of contrition or acknowledgement of wrongdoing, from anyone.

      All indications are the lawfare/dem/DS “crew” will learn, adapt and attack with renewed vigor. The “resistance” will be strengthened. Why not. Nothing will happen to them because someone knows something that will get a heavy breather in trouble. Wow, that’s BS.

      In effect, bondo’s protection scam provides the resistance breathing room and burns into the consciousness of half the aware people in this country that there is indeed a two tiered justice system in America and he is protecting them so they can continue to attack us (through PT).

      Eventually mr. bondo, with half the country alienated and despising the LE institutions they are forced to fund, they will go too far and the chain reaction begins. He will have failed even at his protection scam.

      Barr has a job description, a written, formal, lawful job description. My guess is there is nothing in it specifying a task to protect corrupt institutions.

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    • James Felter says:

      The problem is that power corrupts. Power, government, is a necessity. Anarchy impoverishes all who are caught in it until some combination ends it. Successful self government builds wealth and more power, which requires more power to defend against theft (war) by other governments. We have concentrated huge power so successfully that generations have taken that success for granted and minded their own private business while their public business has been corrupted by self interested actors.
      We are now so divided that if we take down these institutions, no one knows what will emerge from the scrum. The agencies of power we have developed are like the rings of power in Tolkien. Our public officers are like Ringwraiths. We have to throw these instruments into the fire, but how, and with what do we replace them? [Google/NSA’s symbol might more accurately be the eye of Sauron] Our best option is to prune back our government until it more resembles the tree of liberty than a giant thorn bush full of poisonous spiders.

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    • 7delta says:

      My opinion is Barr is destroying these institutions by not doing what is just and letting the bad people remain unpunished.

      I agree, Kaco. The institutional guardians have it backwards. The ship to protect the institutions has long since sailed and is now taking on water. It’s sinking because of its own rotted hull. Only those with something to lose and ill-informed partisans will scream and yell that exposing the rotted wood will sink it. It’s too late to convince anyone else that its trustworthy, as is.

      The long list of irrational behavior by the Dems and never-Trumpers has been the best public exposure of corruption anyone could ask for. They’ve already lost the public relations war. Too many people know there’s something deeply wrong, even if they don’t know a lot of details. Trust is dependent on what’s done to rectify these wrongs. 

      The institutions haven’t failed. People within those institutions have. These people aren’t the institution itself, but they have vandalized it from within.The framework is still good and will hold, if equal justice is upheld and handled appropriately. If the guardians really want to preserve the institutions, they have to rip out the rotted wood and replace it with good wood with the integrity to keep it afloat. It must be done to restore public trust and to restore their genuine mission. If no one is above the law, then no one is. Equal justice. The institutions are built on this foundation and cannot support the framework without it.

      If it’s not done, the guardians will be the weak men who let the ship sink under the pretense of protecting it…or protecting the corrupt. Doesn’t matter which or both. You are absolutely right. They will be the ones who sunk the ship.

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      • Kaco says:

        “The institutions haven’t failed. People within those institutions have. These people aren’t the institution itself, but they have vandalized it from within.The framework is still good and will hold, if equal justice is upheld and handled appropriately. If the guardians really want to preserve the institutions, they have to rip out the rotted wood and replace it with good wood with the integrity to keep it afloat. ”

        I don’t know if you’ll see this but, thank you! That’s what I was trying to say. Just able to get back.

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  8. howie_roak says:

    Anyone that ever worked at the USDOJ, and understands how the “Praetorian Guard or as others call it the mandarins” thinks and acts, knew that Barr’s job was to preserve and protect the institution of Justice. I’ve posted this for over a year and now its coming to light.

    No one will be prosecuted for the coup — it would destroy the USDOJ as an institute of Justice. The country can not allow that…..

    “We are the law, the law is whatever we say it is; besides who is going to stop us we are the law”

    “How dare anyone think that a political leader should oversee them execute the law”…..Pshaw!

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    • Yeoman says:

      Sometimes the Preatorian guard has to take out that which they protect because they are the only ones capable of doing it without civil war.

      Just as Brutus took out Ceasar, it’s up to the AG to take out the DOJ and FBI. He must also take the corruption out of Congress. The executioner is never responsible for the crimes of the convicted, and Bill Bar is not responsible for the damage which has already been done; unless, he covers it up.

      The DOJ and FBI are already damaged beyond repair. The left has never respected the rule of law, and the right no long trusts that the DOJ and FBI are enforcing the rule of law. The FBI and DOJ are gaining the support of the left, but it’s the fleeting support of your enemy attacking your enemy; it’s good for awhile, but at the end of the day, they both remain your enemy.

      Either the the corrupt institutions are cleansed, or the country is doomed. If they are corrupt, they cannot serve the country because the corruption will remain until it is cleansed.

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      • Orygun says:

        Our President is hoping enough people see the corruption in our Government and vote the criminals out of office. That is our job and his job is to see we get a fair election to do just that. If we can regain the House and Senate then the real cleanup can commence.

        This election is going to make or break this country. We have to vote the scum out of office.

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        • antiqueiron says:

          This election has little to do with crushing the deep state. Those of them that are in government are at the top. They don’t get voted out. Ever. Do you think pelosi will lose? Schumer? And how do you “vote out” obama, brennan, clapper, val jar etc? How can we vote out the clintons? The podestas? The rices? The powers? No, this cannot be fixed via conventional means. We are waaaaayy past that now. There is no going back, unless…

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      • Rex says:

        Like a poor soul suffering from gangrene…

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  9. Bogeyfree says:

    The tweet I want to see from PT is………

    How is it possible that with ALL of this…………

    Russian Collusion
    Mueller Investigation
    Spygate
    Wiener Laptop
    Leaking Classified Information
    U1
    HRC Server and Emails
    DNC Server Hack
    Wikileaks and the DNC Emails
    Seth Rich
    Awan Brothers
    FISA Gate
    Impeachment Gate
    Ukraine Gate

    That our DOJ hasn’t found one crime or indicted anyone involved in any of this?

    And by the way, maybe it is time to take another look at the 82 page FISA leak and it’s connections.

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  10. Chiefco says:

    No one has the guts to go after Obama. “To big to Jail”

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    • texannie says:

      That is the crux of this whole thing….Obama.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      And yet many who profess integrity have zero problem with them going after President Trump.

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    • Melanie G Melancon says:

      The institutional corruption and cover-up didn’t start with Obama. I agree that it got worse, but it has been there since before the Kennedy assassination. J. Edgar Hoover started it and corruption has only continued to worsen since then. It will never be fixed because those in power don’t want it fixed. I can only hope that the last 3 years have shown us, the silent majority, exactly how corrupt it is. Until we get rid of the Richard Burrs, the Senator Warners, the Nadlers, the Pelosis, the Schumers, the McConells, the Grahams, the Maxine Waters, the Fienstiens, the Shiela Jacksons, and I could go on for pages, NOTHING will change. We either accept it or vote them out. There are a few honest congressmen, but they are so far in the minority that their voices are completely lost. We need more like Devin Nunez, Elise Stefinick, Senator Kennedy, Steve Scalise, John Ratcliff, Jim Jordan and a few others. That said, who wants to run for office in the current environment? Sadly, very few honest people. That’s my rant for the day.

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  11. George Dixon says:

    “there’s no way the institutions of government could survive the potential evidence at a McCabe trial”
    That alone says that those institutions should not survive as they are now. It also sounds like some people see themselves as the institution which makes protecting the institutions more of a self-service than a national necessity. All of this says that the lack of consequences for those who put the institutions at risk means that there will be no change. The preservation of the institutions becomes a flag which future McCabes can wrap themselves in with premeditation as they do what they want to from within those institutions.

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    • Right to reply says:

      I agree, but I am also aware of what happens when you “rage against the machine”. They take ALL of your rights away. Not once has anyone on the right organized a demo for this. We sit in silence while our anger hammers out on keyboards. Only WE can solve this, but everyone I know is happy to turn the other cheek until they too become brain-dead punch drunk!

      Why are we afraid to organize for justice and truth?

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  12. Right to reply says:

    Hand on heart, if Trump now knows Obama was a pretender to the throne, he should say so, and release the evidence/Birth Certificate.

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  13. OhNoYouDont says:

    The Church Committee (formally the United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Activities) was a U.S. Senate select committee in 1975 that investigated abuses by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Chaired by Idaho Senator Frank Church (D-ID), the committee was part of a series of investigations into intelligence abuses in 1975, dubbed the “Year of Intelligence”, including its House counterpart, the Pike Committee, and the presidential Rockefeller Commission. The committee’s efforts led to the establishment of the permanent U.S. Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI).
    _____

    On August 17, 1975 Senator Frank Church appeared on NBC’s Meet the Press, and discussed the NSA, without mentioning it by name:

    “In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air. (…) Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies. We must know, at the same time, that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left: such is the capability to monitor everything—telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide.”

    “If this government ever became a tyranny, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity that the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know. Such is the capability of this technology. (…)”

    “I don’t want to see this country ever go across the bridge. I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss. That is the abyss from which there is no return.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee
    “The Intelligence Gathering Debate”. NBC. August 18, 1975

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    • Orygun says:

      It is hard to believe that is a Democrat. I used to be one! That party is not even remotely associated with the thieves and scoundrels running it now.

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      • OhNoYouDont says:

        tyr·an·ny – cruel and oppressive government or rule.
        ______

        Don’t Forget: New Hampshire Winner And Dem Frontrunner Bernie Sanders Has A Lot Of Crazy Plans

        Here are just 19 of the insane policy proposals and radical ideas Bernie Sanders would champion as president.

        FEBRUARY 12, 2020

        1. $34 Trillion Socialized Health Insurance Overhaul
        2. Mass Bailout of Student Loan Debt
        3. Making Higher Education ‘Tuition Free’
        4. Implementing ‘National Rent Control’
        5. Instituting a Moratorium on Deportations
        6. Effectively Abolishing ICE and CBP
        7. Enacting a Green New Deal
        8. Approaching Abortion as Population Control
        9. Admiration for Dictators, Communists, and Bread Lines
        10. Banning Hydraulic Fracking, Which Would Cripple the Economy

        11. Issuing ‘Dozens’ of Sweeping Executive Orders to Implement Major Policies
        A campaign list of “potential” Sanders executive orders obtained by the Washington Post “includes unilaterally allowing the United States to import prescription drugs from Canada, directing the Justice Department to legalize marijuana, and declaring climate change a national emergency while banning the exportation of crude oil.”

        “Other options cited in the document include canceling federal contracts for firms paying workers less than $15 an hour and reversing federal rules blocking U.S. funding to organizations that provide abortion counseling,” the Post revealed.

        The report further said Sanders is considering “lifting the cap on the number of refugees accepted into the United States and immediately halting border wall construction” in addition to reinstating Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA.

        12. Hiking Taxes, Even on the Middle Class
        13. Making Taxpayers Fund Political Campaigns
        14. Allowing Convicted Felons to Vote
        15. Eliminating the Electoral College
        16. Legalize Marijuana in the First 100 Days with Executive Action
        17. Eliminating Nuclear Power
        18. Nationalizing the Internet
        19. Eliminate Billionaires

        https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/12/lets-not-forget-bernie-sanders-has-a-lot-of-fringe-crazy-plans/

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    • Zippy says:

      “Congress responded to the committee’s findings by passing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) of 1978, which created the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) to issue warrants for domestic eavesdropping. In recognition of national security imperatives, Congress allowed the proceedings of the FISA court to be kept secret.”

      How’d that “reform” measure from a sincere attempt at reform (unlike ANYTHING we’ve seen now) work out?

      April 16, 2019
      While at the CIA, William Barr drafted letters calling for an end to the Agency’s moratorium on destroying records
      Decades before he was Attorney General (twice), Barr served in the Agency’s Office of Legislative Council in the wake of the the Church Committee hearings

      https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2019/apr/16/cia-barr-crest/

      “A memo uncovered in the Central Intelligence Agency’s declassified archives shows that during his time at the CIA’s Office of Legislative Council, current Attorney General William P. Barr drafted letters calling for the end of the moratorium on destroying records imposed on the Agency ahead of the Church Committee hearings.” [image of the memo at the link – Z]

      Also, sometimes one can find some truth from ones adversaries like the far leftist Common Dreams:

      January 16, 2019
      William Barr’s Deep State Resume: Cover-Ups, Covert Ops, and Pardons
      A close examination of Barr’s legal career indicates a high tolerance for presidentially sanctioned law-breaking

      https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/01/16/william-barrs-deep-state-resume-cover-ups-covert-ops-and-pardons

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      • Xena Laminak says:

        Thank you! I had seen elsewhere that Barr is just as crooked as everyone else and his ties through his father to the parents of the other crooks is scary. George Webb covere this in several of his videos.

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      • OhNoYouDont says:

        Aftermath

        R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr., editor of the conservative magazine The American Spectator, wrote that the committee “betrayed CIA agents and operations.” The committee had not received names, so had none to release, as confirmed by later CIA director George H. W. Bush. However, Senator Jim McClure used the allegation in the 1980 election, when Church was defeated.

        The Committee’s work has more recently been criticized after the September 11 attacks, for leading to legislation reducing the ability of the CIA to gather human intelligence. In response to such criticism, the chief counsel of the committee, Frederick A.O. Schwarz Jr., retorted with a book co-authored by Aziz Z. Huq, denouncing the Bush administration’s use of 9/11 to make “monarchist claims” that are “unprecedented on this side of the North Atlantic”.

        In September 2006, the University of Kentucky hosted a forum called “Who’s Watching the Spies? Intelligence Activities and the Rights of Americans,” bringing together two Democratic committee members, former Vice President of the United States Walter Mondale and former U.S. Senator Walter “Dee” Huddleston of Kentucky, and Schwarz to discuss the committee’s work, its historical impact, and how it pertains to today’s society.
        _____

        Note: Walter Darlington “Dee” Huddleston (April 15, 1926 – October 16, 2018) was an American politician. He was a Democrat from Kentucky who represented the state in the United States Senate from 1973 until 1985. Huddleston lost his 1984 Senate re-election campaign to Mitch McConnell in an upset by about 5100 votes.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_%22Dee%22_Huddleston

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  14. PCS says:

    The thing is, this is such a massive list of crimes and criminal actions that it cannot be buried. There are hundreds of people involved. At the least. Possible the participants across all of the many schemes numbers in the 1000’s. That cannot stay buried. There are so many loose threads. All it takes is pulling on one of the threads and the whole mess unravels.

    That is what perplexes me. How this has stayed relatively intact in the face of such obvious evidence for as long as it has.

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    • nananelson says:

      The corrupt media.

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      • thedoc00 says:

        You short comment speaks volumes. I call supposedly educated citizens, the “willfully ignorant” or “headline only literate” . Their very first retort to any listing of on-going crime is “why isn’t on the news”?? They do not take advantage of the fact there are sources of information at their finger tips, even though they claim to be computer literate.

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  15. Brock says:

    Barr may think he’s protecting the institutions, but he’s doing just the opposite. What would have happened to the country if Operation Crossfire Hurricane had succeeded (eg they developed evidence of crimes against one of Trump’s sons and forced him to resign)? So what if Rosenstein was indicted? No one knows who he is. So what if Senator Warner was implicated. Did anyone care when Senator Ted Stevens was tried and convicted? On the other hand the damage to the US system of justice caused by the sedition/coup attempt and the use of police state tactics with absolutely no accountability is irreparable.

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  16. I would like to know what his lawyer thinks about it; that interview with Hannity was so bad she had no chance to talk. Sidney, please let us know what you are thinking about this.

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  17. Mike M. says:

    “…there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive.”

    I think this means they will ultimately die anyway. The very effort to keep them alive will insure their death.

    Get rid of them now. Break it down now. Tear off the bandage. It will hurt much more later.

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    • Jederman says:

      If there are actually, conscientious, ethical Do”J” employees why would they want to work in an organization half the country knows is corrupt? I would think they would want to be proud of their work.

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  18. Grant Hodges says:

    I disagree with those who say the Republic cannot withstand such revelations concerning sedition and treason. The Republic is engineered to accept such revelations and deal with them. It’s like those who said Trump could do nothing about the wall. Most of them didn’t WANT anything done about the wall hence their plaintive protest. Right now nobody trusts the FBI. Why would they? If the bad boys to be rooted out. We need a mandatory sentence for withholding exculpatory evidence of 20-life. And it won’t do to just pass such a law. The only such a wall fixes the Republic and restores confidence in our institutions is if we have people in the big house doing time for sedition and treason.

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  19. Ken Maritch says:

    What would have to happen, or come out, that would cause the Dems/libs to also want to dismantle the FBI and cia?

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  20. joe henderson says:

    We desperately need to buck up and do the right thing and prosecute these criminals. Let the chips fall where they may. If we let these deeply damaged agencies get away with what they’ve done they will never stop.

    We are witnessing the most corrupt government our country has ever endured and it started with the Clintons. America has had it’s scandals over the years but this one tops them all. We must do the right thing and burn the house down and rebuild it on a solid foundation before it manages to bring down the Republic.

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  21. Remember, Lawyers are for the most part running these Bureaucracies….UN-elected Lawyers….Roughly 80% of these Lawyers are Democrats…Almost half of Congress are Lawyers…..Virtually all of the exposed corruption, criminal activity and unethical behavior at these Institutions has been willfully committed by Lawyers….and not one has lost their Law License…..

    Imagine how are Government would function with a 95% reduction of Lawyers??? How is it possible that a profession that represents a .3% of the U.S population represents 40% of Congress and that same profession overwhelmingly holds key positions in most of our Bureaucracies???….

    Term limits are great….However, a 30 year moratorium on Lawyers holding public office or working in any high capacity within the various Bureaucracies is what’s needed……

    Bill Barr has proved the Law Profession can not patrol or hold itself accountable…..Yes, unfortunately some good, ethical Lawyers will be affected…Too bad….They should have spoke up and raised issues about the massive corruption within their profession…They were silent…

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  22. CNN_sucks says:

    After Donald Trump reelection, we need audit of DOJ, FIB, and NSC. Trim the redundant agencies, fire all who participated in a coup and fire all federal employees who spend time watching porn during office hours.

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    • Orygun says:

      We need the House and Senate for a good clean up. That means everyone has to participate in this coming election. We need a tidal wave of honest politicians to make this happen.

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      • 2zymos says:

        Yes necessary… but not sufficient (elections alone). There will be prosecutions else there will be street and field fighting.

        The Constitution called the militia “necessary” and only the militia was called necessary — as in the necessary institution/constituency in our checks and balances:

        TIME has arrived for some checking and balancing of ALL THREE BRANCHES.

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  23. George 1 says:

    In a nutshell Barr thinks the entire system could not survive prosecutions involving all three branches of government. It is important that the holy system go on as it is, you know, for the children. IMHO that is complete crap. The only thing important to Barr and the Swamp is that none of THEM are brought down.

    Barr suffers from corrupt DC thinking, as in we are ever so important and if a popular President and some worker bees are sacrificed well, it is all for the good of the people. In fact the only thing that will preserve the precious “system” is showing the public that a coup d’ tat will not be tolerated in America.

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  24. Michael Hennessy says:

    Protecting the institutions means emboldening the institutions. If there are no consequences the traitors come at you twice as hard next time. Not an acceptable excuse!

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  25. LadyChurchill says:

    Unfortunately the lesson learned by the public in all this is to never cooperate with any of these agencies because they cannot be trusted. I never thought I would say that but the fact is they are liars and worse they are treasonous and are no longer guardians for the American people. I hear more and more that they are all untrustworthy when I used to hear it is just a few bad apples.

    I am really not sure where we go from here but the democrat/communists seem to be winning as far as trying to cause as much distrust and chaos as possible. However I fear that unforeseen consequences of their plans are not ones that they will benefit from in the end. The level of distrust and anger at this clearly double standard justice system is reaching a boiling point, Until someone actually goes to jail for sedition i think we are in for very big trouble.

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  26. What Barr should have said r.e. the 4 that ‘quit’ the DOJ over the sentencing of Stone… “don’t let the door hit your biased as$e$ on the way out. And, the rest of you in this department that want to play NAZI prosecutors please go find another venue, preferable in North Korea.”

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  27. dustahll says:

    A lot of BS, not buying the DOJ is too big to fail or the FBI, its like saying the mafia or drug cartels are too big to fail ,as some posters are saying.
    Its giving in to corruption and Bernie sanders might as well take over and complete the massive corruption.
    Burn it down an erect a new institution with greater safe guards and accountability to the People.

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    • You are 100% correct.

      But to win we need to be smart and do it in the right sequence. Top priority is to first re-elect President Trump in a landslide and have a Republican House and Senate with comfortable margins. Then let’s get rid of swamp protector Barr and replace him with Judge Jeanine and disassemble and rebuild DoJ outside of DC.

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      • texannie says:

        The problem here is that we did this before and when we held all the institutions, they did nothing! Nothing!

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        • cattastrophe says:

          That’s because we didn’t have a president like President Trump. We had go along to get along and worse. We now have a president willing to confront anything. Nothing is to big or to difficult. We will not see this kind of intellect and courage again so we’d better do what we can to help him because it could be our last chance.

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        • Yes, but the “we” was Bush, Boehmer, etc. Globalists, before, and Ryan who is corrupt to the core.

          Now we have President Trump (Very Stable Genius), and we have people like Jim Jordan, Ratcliffe and others who are very big and visible supporters of the president.

          Also, we can’t undo everything that’s gone wrong in the last hundred years overnight. But with a big win on November 3rd we can make much more progress, the least of it is that the House will no longer impeach our president.

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      • Melanie G Melancon says:

        I agree. I think once Trump is re-elected, it will be “Katy had the door”. We just need to re-election him, get back the house, and increase our Senate majority. People are missed now, and I believe are ready to do this.

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  28. Fake Deptartment of Justice
    Really – Department of Democrat Lawfare

    It needs to be completely disassembled, it is beyond repair.

    But first things first. Let’s get landslide wins for President Trump and a big majority of Republican House and Senate with as few Rinos as possible. And then, release the Kraken!

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  29. Bogeyfree says:

    Bravo Sundance,

    You have helped millions of Americans to see the big picture….

    And to see that All of these are interconnected….
    The Database
    Russian Collusion
    Fake Dossier
    Mueller Investigation
    Spygate
    Wiener Laptop
    Leaking of Classified Information
    U1
    Hammer Hard Drives
    HRC Server & 33k Emails
    DNC Server
    Wikileaks & DNC Emails
    Away Brothers
    FISA Abuse
    FIB Contractor Abuse
    Impeachment Gate
    Ukraine Gate

    Via one common element……….

    Leverage & The Domino Threat – (Blackmail & If I go down, you go down)

    THIS, the database used for gather the leverage and the Domino threat of the many ratting out their peer, their buddy and this becoming an out of control virus epidemic is IMO why we have not and will not see anything serious other than a couple of wrist slaps coming forward.

    So imagine who would immediately be under the microscope:
    if the Wolfe case was fully prosecuted
    if the 9 Nunes referrals had been fully prosecuted
    if the Awan Brothers had not been given a deal
    if the Wiener Laptop and those 33k emails were declassified and exposed
    if the American could hear from the two U1 WB’s, from the Hammer WB, from Jullian Assange
    and had there been a full audit done going back to 2009 on FISA and NSA Contractor Abuse.

    It truly is MASSIVE and I’m shocked that ALL of this has been buried but in the end it all came down to LEVERAGE and the Domino effect that has kept the lid on this coup.

    IMO, PT should either declass and use his legal team to educate the American people on all of this ASAP or insert a Justice Czar with full authority to read and review everything while shadowing and asking Barr and Durham key questions related to all of this.

    Because the problem will be come Spring or Summer, when the Barr report, IMO will say none of this is connected, that procedures weren’t followed but there were no crimes and no indictments and no there there and thus the media closes the book on all of this right before the election.

    If PT tries to reopen the books post Nov with a new AG (hopefully Sidney) the media will crucify him as just more retribution from the crazy orange man who can’t let it go.

    The DS worst nightmare IMO is PT moving to declass or insert a Justice Czar or Special Council of his choice NOW.

    Americans could help by tweeting and chanting at all future PT rally’s saying…..

    Reopen the Wolfe Case

    We want Sidney Now

    Where’s the Wiener Laptop?

    They may be able to shut PT up from tweeting but they can’t shut up 100M very angry Patriots who want to see the rule of law upheld.

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  30. Flight93Gal says:

    AGREE. AGREE. AGREE and a thousand likes.

    This is THE BEST comment that captures the essence of the issue and it’s from Bogeyfree, who suggests that POTUS tweet below:

    HOW IS IT EVEN REMOTELY POSSIBLE THAT NONE OF THESE BROUGHT
    A SINGLE INDICTMENT.
    • Russian Collusion
    • Mueller Investigation
    • Spygate
    • Wiener Laptop
    • Leaking Classified Information
    • Uranium 1
    • HRC Server and Emails
    • DNC Server Hack
    • Wikileaks and the DNC Emails
    • Seth Rich
    • Awan Brothers
    • FISA Gate
    • Impeachment Gate
    • Ukraine Gate

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  31. DeVan says:

    Wow! Way too much overthinking. Just charge the traitors and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise, think what they’ll do in the future. Answer: anything they want to whomever they want.

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  32. Rick L says:

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? “”Who will guard the guards themselves?” Roman Poet Juvenal
    For over 2000 years and most likely longer the same problem exists that we see today.

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  33. itsy_bitsy says:

    The deep state in this country resembles the old Soviet Union more and more! Corrupt to it’s core and willing to kill and/or destroy anyone who would expose it, if that becomes necessary. In the meantime they are untouchable. How did this happen? Was it only one very corrupt African born President who managed to turn our government into a criminal operation? Probably not, Clinton began it and Obama refined it until it’s core festered in corruption.

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  34. Rick says:

    If truth and integrity do not execute justice, our republic is toast.

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  35. Fiction: “The whole place is full of gasoline, and if you attempt to prosecute us or even to expose us for our sedition, the whole place is gonna blow!” Therefore you can send a decorated General to prison for ever, but you have to give us a free pass.

    Fact: “These government institutions are not the problem – you are.” The thing that’s the gasoline is not that you might be guilty and deserving prosecution, but that it hasn’t happened to you yet. The tens of thousands of people who work for these agencies are not the problem – the problem is literally less than forty people(!) sitting at the top. And their belief that they are above the law.

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    • bertdilbert says:

      There are tens of thousands of people working in these agencies and a huge number of them are democrats. You would have to send all the democrats to retraining camps to clean this mess up.

      Think of it. Hillary was the biggest political criminal ever. Current front runner in dem circles is Bernie, a communist.

      Democrat should be an instant red flag that they do not belong at the FBI or DOJ.

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  36. bertdilbert says:

    How can you charge McCabe for lying when he might have to be a witness in the Flynn case if it goes back to trial? Flynn is the big fish in Russiagate. That was what gave the ball momentum.

    There is not just the McCabe/Rosenstein aspect of this but the McCabe/Flynn aspect.

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  37. rah says:

    “We see McCabe given an institutionally necessary free pass, and now Barr bringing in another federal prosecutor from St. Louis to reevaluate Flynn’s position. The two options are again being debated: Crush Flynn on other matters; or drop it.”

    Maybe I missed something but I can’t recall any “other matters” the DOJ could legitimately charge Flynn for. Can someone please explain what those “other matters” may be that could lead to further charges against the man?

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    • jbowen82 says:

      The FARA registration issue regarding lobbying for Turkey and trying to conceal the origin of the funds through a Dutch company. The DOJ dropped those charges as part of the plea bargain.

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  38. youme says:

    NYT claims they vetted the names. No mention of McCabe or James Wolfe or the Obama Justice Department lawyers who deliberately lied to Judge Hanen of the 5th Circuit

    DOJ Alumni Statement on the Events Surrounding the Sentencing of Roger Stone

    View at Medium.com

    Judgae Hanen:
    “The United States Department of Justice (“DOJ” or “Justice Department”) has
    now admitted making statements that clearly did not match the facts. It has admitted that the lawyers who made these statements had knowledge of the truth when they made these misstatements. The DOJ’s only explanation has been that its lawyers either “lost focus” or that the “fact[s] receded in memory or awareness.” [Doc. No. 242 at 18].2

    These misrepresentations were made on multiple occasions starting with the very first hearing this Court held. This Court would be remiss if it left such unseemly and unprofessional conduct unaddressed.3”

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  39. rayvandune says:

    That photo of Barr, Rosenstein, and Sessions celebrating needs a caption contest!
    My entry,
    Rosenstein: “And the best thing is, they STILL think WE work for THEM!!”

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  40. Orson says:

    Awan Case. So, the DOJ’s failure to comply with a set date to provide Judicial Watch with Court Ordered FOIA documentation takes on a new light. The DOJ shows up and says…”Nope, the records you are requesting are sealed. Have a nice day.”

    Makes you wonder what was in the email files they acquired and sent to a stand alone server. Likely related to the scenario as a whole.

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  41. FTP:

    “From the perspective of those charged with the actual administration of justice – there is no way to put this in front of the American public and have the institutions survive. ”

    I STRONGLY DISAGREE

    This line of thinking assumes that the American public is unable (too stupid?) to make the distinction between the INSTITUTIONS, themselves, and the actions of the MAGGOTS now feeding off the body politic.

    WE AREN’T

    It also assumes that Bill Barr is trying to preserve the aforementioned “Institutions” rather than the pestilence that permeates them.

    HE ISN’T

    Bill Barr’s REAL problem isn’t whether he can prosecute McCabe, Rosenstein, Strzok, et al without endangering the agencies they infested. His REAL PROBLEM is that he can’t prosecute them without implicating the HIGHEST level of government (Obama) and the people who pulled HIS strings. You know… the TRUE kingmakers and power brokers behind the “e” in GOPe and the “uni” in UNIPARTY.

    IF HE DID “want to preserve the Institutions” he WOULD go after every one of them. Anything less means that he’s defending the status quo by propping up the POTEMPKIN VILLAGE currently erected in the District of Columbia.

    GO BILL!

    DON’T UPSET THE APPLECART!

    DON’T “MAKE WAVES!”

    DON’T KNOCK OVER THE MONEY CHANGERS’ TABLES!

    There are Trillions at stake…

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    • woohoowee says:

      From my pov the institutions have already burned down. IMHO that’s why Sydney Powell wrote License To Lie – the DOJ is functioning more like a gang of street thugs than a legitimate professional institution. Then there’s FIB…..need I really say anything else about them? The judiciary has been a cruel joke, but PT45 has ameliorated the issues as fast as he can appoint legitimate judges instead of partisan nutjobs. And Congress? Nothing but a pack of liars and thieves who stole our money to pay for our invasion and demise.

      So, what is still standing other than a myth about what the various institutions were supposed to be?

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  42. farmerren says:

    …so what do we do?…

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    • antiqueiron says:

      Very good question. The list of possibilities is short. It all depends on what President Trump is willing to do, & how far he’s willing to go to fix this. He seems very reluctant to go after obama. If he won’t go there, then we may as well just pack up our tents, because there are two additional ex Presidents that would have to be prosecuted as well. This is an all or nothing game. We win big, or lose the country.

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  43. jbowen82 says:

    The other problem Barr has to navigate around is, as we’ve seen in the Roger Stone case, the DC jury pool. There is no way to empanel a jury that does not include at least one die-hard Trump-hating Democrat. I know some have fantasies about Gitmo and military tribunals, but those aren’t happening for the same institutional reasons that Barr had to let McCabe go on this charge. PDT is trying to prevent a civil war, not instigate one. As a result, in many cases the process is going to be the only punishment.

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    • antiqueiron says:

      No, Barr must get over it. It either all comes down or he resigns. There is no longer an option of “saving the institutions.” Can’t Barr demand a change of venue? This is not complicated at all. We either have a country or we don’t. The criminals must be prosecuted no matter the consequences. And tribunals overseas would be a good way to go. Use the NDAA.

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  44. Will Hunt says:

    “Institutions” are inanimate objects incapable of thought or action. I propose the we always prefix this term with “the people running these..”

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  45. maxxheadroom777 says:

    The institutions of our Constitutional government are vested in We The People. We will survive. What will not survive in the trial of these political animals are the animals themselves. Every one of them know they should be hanged by the neck until dead. The animals don’t care a fig about “the institutions.” All they care about is continued well-being in their reeking lives of luxury. Public trials and executions of these monsters would strengthen the institutions, not weaken them.

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  46. Pew-Anon says:

    Almost 1000 comments as of this post. That’s a lot for a standard article that’s not coverage of a live event. After scanning through the responses, one item in particular stands out:

    The furor appears to be focused on the general assertion that the “institutions of government are not strong enough, nor are they set-up to handle, prosecutions that overlap all three branches of government.”. It seems everyone — myself included — is making certain assumptions about the what is meant by the word “institutions”, and reacting, as well they should, with righteous indignation at the notion. After all, it is the corrupt people within the supposed institutions that will fall, and not the institutions themselves. Right? However, I wonder whether SD has in mind a definition of “institutions” that most of us are missing. Yes, I have read the embedded links above, though the answer to this question is still unclear to me. Perhaps SD can elaborate on what specifically is meant by the word “institutions” in this unique context.

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  47. vlparker says:

    It never ceases to amaze me how conservatives can twist themselves up in knots defending the indefensible in order to supposedly accomplish some greater good. This article has it 100% backwards. It is 180% out of phase. This article could not be more wrong if it was written by Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

    Neither the office of Attorney General, nor the Department of Justice was created by the US Constitution. The office of AG was created by the Judiciary Act of 1789 and the Department of Justice was created in 1870. AG Barr’s attempt to preserve these institutions is not avoiding a constitutional crisis because neither of these institutions was created by the Constitution. If they were to go under because AG Barr started swinging a sledgehammer and lighting a torch to burn the place down, then so be it. That would not be a constitutional crisis. I don’t for a minute believe that either the office of AG or the DOJ would not survive such a necessary purge, but if that were the case, so what?

    The constitutional crisis is the usurpation of the executive authority of the President of the United States by the seditious, corrupt attorneys and bureaucrats running the DOJ. The first sentence of Article II of the US Constitution is : “The executive power shall be vested in the President of the United States of America.” Period. According to the constitution the President IS the executive branch. Any office or agency under him exists ONLY to implement his agenda.

    Bill Barr’s oath of office was to protect and defend the Constitution, not to protect and defend the DOJ or the office of AG. His ONLY job is to clean up the DOJ and make sure that it operates under the rule of law. His job is not to protect the institution. If he doesn’t have the courage to clean house and take out the trash at the DOJ then he should resign.

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    • Bogeyfree says:

      I wish I could put this……

      “Bill Barr’s oath of office was to protect and defend the Constitution, not to protect and defend the DOJ or the office of AG.”

      on a huge billboard outside the DOJ building so it is seen by all, EVERYDAY!

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  48. Rockindubya says:

    I want to quote a little something from 1776 here,
    “… Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security….”

    These fine fellows had it right then. I am ashamed by what we have let it become.

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  49. ed357 says:

    So it’s ok for the FBI, DOJ, CIA, the Senate Gang of 8, and other intelligence agencies of the US….otherwise known as the Swamp….to maliciously and illegally conspire against a duly elected President…..?

    We’ve survived one Civil War, a Depression, and two World Wars…..we’ll survive some governmental corruption…..

    Release the unredacted transcripts on everything…..the only redactions should be to protect US intelligence assets that are in foreign countries that are at risk….. (that might be a good way of getting these traitors to self deport)….

    Let the citizens of the US have all the information……we’ll make a good decision…..

    I’d rather have an honest government……than a corrupt government that protects criminals because of the political climate and because it would be to hard to abide by the rule of law.

    “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others…”

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