Nuclear – Devin Nunes Questions FISC Judge Lack of Candor – Again Calls For Dismantling of FISA Court…

During a stunning interview last Sunday Devin Nunes called for the FISA court to be deconstructed.  In my opinion it was that statement, not the IG report, that spurred FISC Presiding Judge Rosemary Collyer to make a public order today.

Today, hours after Judge Collyer released her order, Devin Nunes responded to the review of the FISC by stating, accurately, Judge Collyer doth protest too much.

In this interview Devin Nunes outlines his February 2018 notification to the FISC about the specific fraud upon the court; and as a result of that (and a follow-up) notification, Nunes again takes the FISC to task for saying they were not aware.  Collyer was aware because Nunes told her.

Accepting the totality of the FISC obfuscation, HPSCI ranking member Devin Nunes again calls for the dismantling of the FISA court process. WATCH:

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Despite the media ignoring the scale of Nunes prior statements, this is not some just some arbitrary representatives’ opinion.  Nunes was Chairman of the HPSCI when he informed the court of the abuse; and he is currently the ranking member of the same committee.

It is not a signal flare from the ranking member of the HPSCI to call for a structural removal of FISC authority.  This is a nuclear blast from the primary person who previously guided the FISA re-authorization that permits the court’s existence.

Here’s the February 2018 letter from Nunes to Judge Collyer:

It is arbitrary and capricious for FISC Presiding Judge Collyer to say today she has concerns about fraud upon the court after being notified two years ago about the issue.

♦ In 2018 House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes held primary oversight authority over the aggregate Intelligence Community (IC).  Chairman Nunes informed the court about flaws in the FISA application and requested the transcripts (if any) from the FISA Court during the DOJ/FBI Title-1 surveillance application over their target, U.S. person Carter Page.

♦In 2018 House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte held primary oversight authority over the Department of Justice -including the FISA court- and requested the actual FISA Title-1 application as submitted by the DOJ/FBI for surveillance of Carter Page.

Judge Collyer responded to both legislative branch chairmen from the position of “never previously receiving such requests.”  Here was her response in 2018:

To Chairman Nunes (seeking transcript):

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To Chairman Goodlatte (seeking documents):

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434 Responses to Nuclear – Devin Nunes Questions FISC Judge Lack of Candor – Again Calls For Dismantling of FISA Court…

  1. Moe Grimm says:

    Rudolf Contreras: “Hey Rose, this ain’t goin’ the way we planned. Better give the normies something to run with before this schidt really gets out of hand and they start backin’ up on my Flynn recusal.”

    Rosemary Collyer: “Don’t worry Rudy. I just got off the phone with Christopher and he’s down with the letter I just sent, so it’s all good. This should give ’em something to chew on and buy us cover.”

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  2. hokkoda says:

    Quick “timeline” question for those who follow this more closely than I do. Collyer states that the DOJ/NSD was provided false information. Was current ICIG Michael Atkinson the director of the NSD at the time the FISA applications were submitted and approved? I remember he was at NSD, but not the timeline.

    It would be fun to email the judge and point this out to her, just to tweak her a bit more. “Hey judge, guess what, the same guy who made a last-second change to IC “whistleblower” rules to allow for unsubstantiated hearsay evidence against President Trump/Ukraine is the same guy who you claim was misled by the FBI. Smoke–>Fire.”

    Anyway, I just don’t remember when Atkinson was at NSD and if he was part of the review chain for that FISA application.

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    • Alan Reasin says:

      From Sundance’s reporting Michael Atkinson was part of the FISA team. Another recommendation to Trump, for ICIG, that was not vetted properly. The same with FBI director Wray who was recommended by Rosenstein. That is the problem with any outsider becoming an executive for any position; they don’t know the political landscape and have to rely on others for guidance. Notice Trump has done very well with his economic team; a field he has knowledge of and people he knows..

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      • hokkoda says:

        That’s what I thought, but wasn’t certain. I would like to see him fire Wray and put Sydney Powell in as the FBI Director.

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      • Moe Grimm says:

        Exception: Gary Golden Slacks Cohn… now said to be “working on his short game” in between the rigors of writing (GULP) “his memoirs” in of course… the hamptons.

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      • doohmax says:

        Trump was hampered in selecting leadership in the Intelligence and Investigation community because every one of the candidates to be considered was Deep State and dirty. It seems there is not a single person in the upper levels who is not contaminated. I only hope I’m wrong about this in regards to Barr.

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    • Despicable Me says:

      According to Atkinson’s Senate questionnaire for the ICIG position, Atkinson held two different positions within DOJ NSD. The first one was as Acting Deputy AG for National Asset Protection which he held March 2016 to June 2016 and the second one (germane to this sub-post) was as Senior Counsel to the AAG of NSD which he held from July 2016 to the then present (November 24, 2017…the date of the signed questionnaire.

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      • Despicable Me says:

        Sooo, based on John Carlin’s archived bio from DOJ, Carlin was AAG of DOJ NSD April 2014 through October 2016 which means Atkinson overlapped as Senior Counsel to Carlin for three to four months. Carlin’s bio further reflects that he also served as Chief of Staff and Senior Counsel to Mueller during Mueller’s time as FBI Director and was also an Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA) in the District of Columbia office of the United States Attorney (USAO-DC) as were both Atkinson and Mueller. Mueller worked homicide cases whereas Carlin worked homicide and sexual crimes to white collar, cyber and public corruption. Atkinson’s senate questionnaire reveals that he worked Espionage, FARA and Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) investigations while at the USAO-DC.

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        • ann says:

          What entity is the designated authority that places fellow travelers within different divisions and departments ?
          Some committe, or does an actual head sign off?

          What decision makers approve this sketchy process of interagency migration to and fro? The purposeful personnel transfers indicate intent. To kick awkward extralegal “matters” into recruits for sanctimoniously titled internal or intradepartmental task forces circumvents chain of command’s direct culpability as the law was and still is interpreted.

          Seems to me DoJ’s procedures, protocols & rationale is far attenuated, void in application from the founders intent in composing the Sixth Amendment .

          In practice, the DoJ declares their created system is sanctified by lineage to the 6th Amendment. In practice they have built a legal school that operates without any scale of justice for certain castes of individuals.

          . Legal immunity is virtually guaranteed for peers, colleagues and “public” prosecutors. The public is well aware of the Clinton’s scale and scope of abuse of rule of law.
          Curiously, Meuller’s Bureau was unscorched, invulnerable.

          In my lifetime, Not one “connected individual’, or Fed LE agency in this swollen herd of targets punished, incarcerated or ostracised.

          My point is, DoJ monopolises our power to punish & control hi status predators .
          Yet no one insists on the obvious: the urgency of structural, procedural reform , and revision of legal codes.

          To address this in a responsible, controlled manner, an outside supra branch fixer is needed. That overrides judicial stops, inert bureaucrats, Establishment Resistors international donors, etc.

          President Trump’s bold candour of our broken system got him elected. We agree! Its irrational to expect him or a couple allies to fix it.
          Only citizens have the potential raw power to do a massive overhaul.
          We can hold public referendums.

          Just one example:
          Nonpartisan reform: goal: elections of grass roots candidates free of Union, Wall St, Corp, International bribery,
          Means: equal very modest individual campaign fund caps. De commercialise campaigns.

          No televised extravaganzas w Hollywood weirdos crooning in risible adoration of Notoriously Corrupted Couple. Remove the sexy productions, bring back substance.
          Re engage with a thoughtful electorate rather than conflict by tribal collectives .

          Change the laws, change the rules! average candidates who are independent, moderate, and of no great wealth can run.

          . No hierarchical intrusion MCConnel , Romney , Clinton style. Dirty tricks & war chests that muscle out independent moderate candidates of modest wealth,
          Rid ourselves of the Party safe seat crap. .
          De monetise CONgress.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Excellent, thanks!

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  3. Originally, Congress was unhappy with what Richard Nixon had been doing. His “snooping on the opposition” required his personal authorization. Someone thought, innocently enough, that “a ‘court’ would be better.” Which would be true if the Government did not deliberately lie to that court! Which of course they did … with the result that Obama was able to carry Nixon’s offenses into the stratosphere and never have to sign his name to anything.

    I think we’re going to have to scrap FISA and go back to … actual, accountable, Presidential authorization. And at the same time we should scrap PATRIOT, which in the name of “protecting” us actually exposes us all … and does so in secret.

    Just as the Second Amendment addresses “national security” in a physical sense, the Fourth Amendment addresses it in a legal and an information sense. These two statutes seem to assert that we can’t have the Fourth Amendment and national security at the same time, but I disagree completely. Since “a nation is made up of its citizens,” we can’t have national security unless those citizens are meaningfully protected against “unreasonable search,” and are entitled to know when searches take place.

    Today, we know that millions of searches are performed every month … tens of thousands of searches a day … by minions. And PATRIOT is what enables it all.

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    • Alan Reasin says:

      It has been said and I agree, the FISA court needs a professional arm of the DOJ to be formed to act as a defendant’s advocate in any secret hearing with strong powers to challenge the governments case.. We now know we cannot trust the FISA court or the FBI to perform due diligence when violating someone’s civil rights under the Constitution.

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      • dimbulbz says:

        But couldn’t the FBI just still do the same thing? Not provide exculpatory information to the Defense? The FBI cannot be trusted to follow rules/guidelines or even their own “policies”. They are a law unto themselves. The people discovering – or inventing (in this case) the information still totally control what gets seen – even if a defense team were there, the Honest and Moral FBI – or CIA would have no issue with fibbing to the defense too.

        The REAL red flag here that no one is mentioning is that the FISA judge was so willing to go along with this. Wouldn’t a normal Judge have some kind of skepticism when dealing with “THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES is a soviet spy…”? Just asking for the ability to spy on a candidates close associates or the president family doesn’t set up some kind of red flag? This court was intended for Terrorists and criminals. Not political efforts.
        Now look at the shitestorm this has caused in America… ABOLISH THE DAMN COURT!!! You have to be one naive idiot not to at least think this doesnt look good. Even to a pompous-ass, arrogant judge. You gotta be one stupid hammerhead dufus not to understand what’s going on. The fact they ignored Nunez’s letter tell you the judge was also complicit. The Dems poison everything they touch, and their fingerprints are all over this. This judge was/is Hillary’s Biz-natch.

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        • Despicable Me says:

          The FISC was created for SPIES (foreign or domestic) and terrorists.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          By “normal” judge, you mean an honest judge who has a court reporter, and protects the integrity of the judicial process by disciplining liars (fines, jail, disbarment, referral for perjury prosecution…), and by immediately withdrawing improperly-obtained Orders “nunc pro tunc” to remove “legality” of behavior under the wrongly-issued Order? That kind of judge is an anethema to the FISC….Even though the only purpose and duty of the FISC is to protect against abuses of Constitutional Rights because the defendants are not represented to stop DOJ/FBI lies.

          The FISC should be investigated by Durham for potential aiding and abetting of denial of civil rights under color of law, 18 USC 242.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Alan, a defendant’s advocate is needed, but not as an “arm” of the the DOJ, where it will be co-opted (DOJ job application: “you will not get the job or get a raise or be promoted if you oppose corruption…”). . A Public Defender Office appointed and fireable by the Office of the President General Counsel, with authority to examine DOJ witnesses and subpoena records, move for discipline of DOJ/FBI counsel and evidence-swearers, move for withdrawal of improvidently-granted FISAs (eg, based on subsequent evidence or misuse of the FISA), appeal to the FISCR and petition for cert to the Supreme Court, and report FISC judicial abuse or incompetence to the President, Congress and Supreme Court for potential removal of bad judges.

        This creates a competitive dynamic, with distribution of power, which is the Constitutional design to prevent secret Star Chamber abuse which we have now.

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        • ann says:

          Like an ombudsman?

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          • Beau Geste says:

            Ann, no, not an ombudsman. More like public defenders in criminal cases, providing constitutionally-required adversary representation loyal to the defendant.
            Like the military defense counsel in courts martial, who vigorously represent the defendant.

            There is currently no representation against FISA issuance, to examine the alleged evidence for accuracy or flat-out lies like happened in the “use phony carter page to authorize political spying on the entire Republican party by “2-hop” rule. There is no appeal, and no-one to appeal, against an improperly issued FISA Warrant. There is no-one to move for censure and discipline of lying DOJ/FBI attorneys and false evidence-swearers.

            A Public Defender Office, separate from the DOJ, practicing in the FISC with cross-examination and other normal defense powers, is necessary to protect civil rights in a secret Star Chamber FISC court which has repeatedly proven its refusal to protect civil rights. Secrecy corrupts, and unchecked absolute secrecy corrupts absolutely.

            Public Defender:
            So, tell me about this carter page who is the spy “target” here. He went to Annapolis. How did he become a russian spy? News reports show he was an FBI asset, testifiying against russians. Was he ever a CIA or other government asset?

            Also, tell me about this “pee pee” dossier. Did you verify it? Who paid for it? Who is this russian “sub-source”? Do you have any information on the bias or reliability of Mr. Steele? Wasn’t he trying to get the pee pee dossier published right before the election? Did the FBI employ or communicate mr. steele or Fusion? Are they still employed? why not…..
            Tell me about mr. Papadopolous. do you ahve any recordings of conversations with him? Didn’t Papadopolous say on recordings you have produced in response to my subpoena for this hearing, that there was no possibiity of russian influence? Did the FBI give him $10,000 to entrap him, which he avoided? Who as Azura Turk? Our subpoena to the FBI shows reference to a Professor Halper, who is a long-term CIA spy. Why was Halper contacting Papadopolous? At whose direction? Who is Joseph Mifsud, referred to in your affidavit? Did the FBI or CIA give Professor Mifsud these cell phones I hand you as Defendant’s exhibits #1 and #2?

            Our subpoena also shows some communications between a Mr. Strozk and McCabe’s lawyer, describing an “insurance policy” against Donald Trump. Is the reason you want a “2-hop” spy warrant on this low-level carter page “target”, just an excuse to spy on a different, real target, Donald Trump, as an insurance policy to harm his election and Presidency?

            et cetera. The whole lie would unravel with a Public Defender.

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            • ann says:

              Beau,
              Much better, you, other Treepers understand the particulars ismagnitude Treehouse chose Sundance’s site exactly this reason.
              Treepers high quality of Treepers

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            • ann says:

              Ignore the above,
              my tremor hits send, inadvertently.
              Result is incoherent, unedited & embarrassing responses .

              👉🏼Obviously you have a better grasp of the particulars . Convinced me. ❤️🙋🏼‍♀️🇺🇸

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      • LEET says:

        Alan

        Anything that is done to protect American citizens from spying will be co-opted and corrupted by progressives in gov’t. They find a way around everything. Their motto is the end justifies the means and by any means necessary.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          LEET, that is true, but that is the next fight.
          This fight is to protect defendants in the crooked FISC, remove crooked rubber-stamp judges, and prosecute those DOJ/FBI liars, perjurers, and false-evidence-submitters for denial oc civil rights under color of law 18 USC 242. This stature applies to crooked judges, too, who fied their SOLE DUTY on the FISC, which is to protect civil rights. The FISC completely failed its duty multiple times, and continues to be complicit with the DOJ/FBI perps by refusing to discipline them, and refusing to withdraw the falsely-granted and falsely-extended FISA warrant covering the entire Republican party.

          The FISC surely knew this was political spying, deceptively extended to the entire GOP by its obscenely unconstitutional “2-hop” order. The FISC was informed multiple times that the FISA was wrongful, yet have continued to deprive the unrepresented defendants (carter page, PDJT and the entire Republicaan Party) of their civil rights under color of (secret) law, in violation of 18 USC 242. ( consciously or unconsciously…hillary would win, and their secret help would never be disclosed…)

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    • Despicable Me says:

      MR – I really hate to say this is and NEVER thought I would but I have to agree with you re scrapping FISA and going back to presidential authorization. The chief executive must be charge of the executive branch.

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    • WSB says:

      Ask William Binney. His very inexpensive program allowed for privacy and for govenment agents to cut through the noise of too much private info being weeded through, but Casey at CIA wanted more money. Then all of it got flipped on its head.

      https://www.hannenabintuherland.com/usa/our-totalitarian-democracy-means-end-of-freedom-for-the-people-william-binney-herland-report-tv/

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  4. J.Thomas says:

    There is so much irrevocable damage done to the country by these people that you have to wonder if it was done intentionally. They continue to damage the country. They refuse to acknowledge and assimilate information that runs contrary to this set of ridiculous narratives that they wish to be true. Then they paint people who learn from new information and adjust to it as being idiots who need to be shunned from society. They don’t see what they’re doing to themselves.

    It’s time to start auditing FCC broadcasting licenses. If the FCC cannot be adjusted, it needs to be dismantled. It clearly cannot manage the licenses that it approves.

    It’s also time to audit the federal court system for law license standards and issuance. Those who abuse and weaponize the legal system for political purposes cannot be allowed to practice law in this country. The cost to justice that this practice extracts is way too high.

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  5. SharkFL says:

    Collyer is obviously corrupt and dripping with swamp muck. Her late hour mea culpa holds no honesty in it. She is a liar by this statement. She is guilty and needs removed and prosecuted for putting our Nation through this witch hunt over 3+ years. Jail Rosemarie Collyer in a Federal Prison and throw away the key.

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    • ann says:

      The actual holder of responsibly is Roberts.

      Collyer is no better or worse than the others.
      FISC operates as a panel, not solely as individuals.

      Her restraint I cannot explain , but COLLYER pulled no punches in her scorching review .

      Read closely, she alludes to a deep background of cyclical abuse, renegotiation and reoccurring repetitive dysfunction

      . For that I am grateful.

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  6. Pokey says:

    Rosemary Collyer did not do her job as a FISA court judge. All she is playing for is to keep the FBIs favorite Court alive and supporting them. She is nearly the sole reason for the excesses of the Obama nightmare and the treasonous behavior of the FBI that is preposterous for any Republic.

    I say eliminate the unconstitutional FISA court and eliminate the most corrupted of all of our corrupt bureaucracies, the FBI. We should sunset the provision for every new bureaucracy and attach an immediate renewal vote and sunset for all of the existing bureaucracies. We can not afford to forget that all of these culprits are traitors!

    By the way, I am a geophysicist and global warming has never been anything but a collectivist hoax. Not only is the science not settled, it was never even a science. If you have ever believed environmentalism is based on science, your only excuse could be that you are likely to be stupid.

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  7. dwpender says:

    I’d like to see Graham’s Judiciary Committee call Collyer in for some searching questions about how the FISA Judges EVER granted any of the Page applications, and about her contemptuous treatment of the House Committees. Remind her (and other judges) that Congress has oversight responsibility over not only the Executive Branch, but the Judicial one. And the Constitutional standard to impeach and remove Judges is MUCH lower than that applicable to Presidents.

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    • ballgame17 says:

      Bingo ! This witch needs to be exposed on national TV. For 2 years she played dumb; now exposed she uses the classic lib response and she demands review of existing policies and retraining. We’re sorry we f-d up, violated numerous laws, illegally prosecuted citizens, undermined the President , but we plan to lessen our corrupt practices… unless, of course the Dems control all 3 branches , then all bets and promises are off!
      BTW , where is John Roberts’ oversight ? Crickets from ” …there are no Clinton judges , Bush Judges , Obama judges ….” Right?

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      • ann says:

        Its not Collyer, have you read her DoJ compliance review? She pulls no punches.

        FISC judges sit in panels, obviously her response is typical of a committee.

        The target is Roberts

        I agree dismantle the FISC, but displacing blame onto Collyer bypasses the problem

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        • justlizzyp says:

          I think she has been, at best, complaicent and willing to hide behind the ‘secret court’ status. She may not have written the entire letter but she signed it, knowing that it was not correct to say or imply that they had no idea about any of these issues before the IG report.

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          • ann says:

            Ok. You have a point.
            And I’m Not a lawyer or LE person.
            But it was lifechanging to read her Review,
            Maybe I’m biased 🙋🏼‍♀️🌸🇺🇸

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            • justlizzyp says:

              I am actually confused because her writings ARE very good and direct and pull no punches, but there doesn’t seem to be any action behind those writings. 5 days after she authorized the first Page warrant, Adm Rogers briefed her on the about query issues. She said nothing, then wrote the scathing Memo of Opinion. Her court then authorized 3 renewals. I can see where they were given bad info by the FBI but after talking to Rogers and seeing what she saw in her review the level of skepticism should have gone way up in that court. Then she got letters from Nunes and Goodlatte and nothing happened. She got letters from Mark Levin. Nothing happened. She got advanced ‘warning’ from the FBI before the IG Report came out. Nothing happened. She reads the actual IG report and NOW she’s angry?

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              • ann says:

                Oh I get you alright, Lizzie, & concur,

                Our parallel communication may be becaus3
                i don’t see this through a legal mindset.

                I think in functional terms, the skillsets don’t migrate well across fields.

                I d a vague notion her hands were tied, wo substantive basis,
                akin to Bureau’s supposedly good field guys.
                in U One, and all other cases the Bureau grants individual absolution by requiring gag orders. That’s frightening,

                I also assumed DOJ Judge shops.

                Recall Strock referring to his FISC buddy, I read as being a man . “He”

                Yes many stood by, inc Comey, who whined that Lynch intimidated him.
                I thought This is who we have safeguarding our most critical functions!
                A wimpy poseur? 👀⁉️
                Page, Strouck, Howard, Yates,
                the interviews of staffers attorneys by Congress were very disturbing, both in terms of character and intellect.
                Its bad, very bad.

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  8. Bob Parker says:

    In addition to Congressman Nunez’s letter + Comments, Mark Levin opined on his radio show last night that HE TOO submitted formal papers to Judge Collyer aboutr the same issues that Niunez brought to light. If only Judge Collyer had been more diigent in her & her FISC judges FISA examinations at the time of their submittal, just think of all of the Left’s sh*t that could have/SHOULD HAVE been avoided via the FISC judges’ REJECTION of those FBI FISAs!!

    It has also been pointed out that the FISC has only rejected 2 FISA submittals (including the FBI’s 1st effort) out of the hundreds that had been submitted.. Question: Is this extremely paltry record of FISA REJECTIONS not proof positive that the FISC judges are simply “rubber stamping” the FISAs that they receive?

    It is my understanding that SCOTUS Chief Justice Roberts is in charge of the FISC, so this begs the question: where in Sam HIll has Justice Roberts been throughout all of this??.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Yes, collyer appears to be complicit in protecting the DOJ/FBI political spying operation. She has not withdrawn the Fake FISA she signed. (hillary was sure to be elected, and this political spying would never see Justice Brandeis’ disinfecting sunlight…). She has not disciplined the DOJ/FBI lawyers and evidence-signers, which is strong evidence of continuing complicity. (the FISA Warrant is used as a defense for prior illegal spying). Refusing to discipline DOJ/FBI liars, withholders, swearers and misrepresenters intentionally degrades the integrity of the FISC “nonjudicial) process. Collyer’s only Duty, and the sole reason for creating the FISC and her appointment as a judge, is to protect civil rights of unrepresented defendants from DOJ/FBI overreach. She and the FISC have failed miserably. In fact, they have aided, abetted and approved illegal political spying on the entire GOP Presidential Campaign and its elected President, based on an obscenely-unconstitutional “2-hop” rule to any Republican.

      The CIA likely recruits and promotes the placement of judges and DOJ/FBI and State Department personnel. No judicial appointment should ever be made to anyone ever recommended by or connected in any way to the CIA.

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    • ballgame17 says:

      Over the entire 33-year period, the FISA court granted 33,942 warrants, with only 12 denials – a rejection rate of 0.03 percent of the total requests. This does not include the number of warrants that were modified by the FISA court.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        And one of them was the first “spy on all the Republicans through 2-hops from low-level carter page” FISA application. We need to see that application, to see the additional lies needed to make even a compliant FISC rubber stamp it. .

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  9. Beau Geste says:

    Collyer “lacks candor” by suggesting there are no spy-proceeding records. Ristvan and others “lack candor” by suggesting badly-overworked FISC judges have no staff and work their poor fingers to the bone turning pages. In fact, the DOJ/FBI submit a “read copy” to a whole team of FISC-staff lawyers and others for review, who are authorized to ask questions, and formalize problems for revision. This review is of record in the FISC, AND AT THE DOJ/FBI. AG Barr can produce these records.

    All honest Federal Courts have a court reporter, and record their proceedings. Only dishonest courts would not want a court reporter or other recording of their crooked proceedings. The FISC demonstrates its structural dishonesty by hiding evidence of its behavior.

    Do not believe any of the BS the FISC puts out to “burnish its image” and limit scrutiny.

    The secret FISC stealthily issued a phony FISA warrant on CIA/FBI agent carter page (hillary would win, and no-one would ever know..). The FISC knew low-level carter page was not the “real target”. The FISC and its team of staff lawyers KNEW the phony FISA was to dishonestly spy on the entire Republican party and its President by an obscenely unconstitutional “2-hop” rule to millions of people in a Presidential Campaign and their voters. A secret spy court should not ever collaborate with the DOJ in dishonest “2-hop” fakery to get at a “real target”. That is a denial of due process and a 4th Amendment violation on its face. Nevertheless, the FISC and its lawyer-staff effectively actuated political spying and 2016 election interference for hillary, clearly violating the civil rights of the GOP campaign and its elected President.

    The sole duty of the FISC is to protect civil rights of unrepresented defendants. The crooked DOJ/FBI perps rely on the false-FISA to insulate themselves from prior criminal spying. By refusing to withdraw its falsely-issued FISA Warrant, the FISC continues to willfully protect, aid and abet the DOJ/FBI evildoers in depriving civil rights of large numbers of innocent US Citizens, in violation of 18 USC 242 which applies to crooked judges. The FISC, in hiding its records, may well be trying to protect itself from investigation for deprivation of civil rights under color of law. They need to be investigated.

    Every day that the FISC refuses to withdraw its Fake FISA, and every day the FISC refuses to discipline the DOJ/FBI lawyers who perpetrated this Fake FISA, adds to the evidence if FISC complicity, IMHO.

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    • justlizzyp says:

      “In fact, the DOJ/FBI submit a “read copy” to a whole team of FISC-staff lawyers and others for review, who are authorized to ask questions, and formalize problems for revision. This review is of record in the FISC, AND AT THE DOJ/FBI. AG Barr can produce these records. ”

      I’m intrigued by this – didn’t Goodlatte request just such documents and was told none existed? It may have been someone else, but I’m sure that I remember someone requesting them and receiving a response that there were no notes because there was no Q & A.

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  10. positron1352 says:

    Sundance called Rosemary’s culpability a long time ago.

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  11. WSB says:

    If Nunes knew about this continued egregious behavior, how did the reauthorization occur?

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  12. Zippy says:

    “No Individuals Have Been Held Accountable”: WSJ Editorial Board Slams FISA Circus
    18 Dec 2019

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/no-individuals-have-been-held-accountable-wsj-editorial-board-slams-fisa-circus-theatre

    “Judge Collyer’s order demands that the government, no later than Jan. 10, inform the court “in a sworn written submission” what it has done and plans to do to make sure future FISA warrant applications aren’t tainted. This is useful and is the first public evidence we’ve had that the FISA judges believe they were deceived.

    Yet it also underscores how the FISA process dilutes political accountability. The FBI has tried to say its applications were kosher because a court approved them, while the court now fingers the FBI for deception. But so far no individuals have been held accountable, and the abuses would never have been discovered without the digging of former House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes.” – WSJ

    Indeed, the only person that might be held accountable was an FBI attorney – Kevin Clinesmith, who fabricated evidence in the Carter Page FISA app to say he wasn’t a CIA source, when in fact he was – with “positive assessment.”

    And while Clinesmith was slapped with a criminal referral by the IG, he is far from the only person within the agency whose hands are dirty. Yet – as the Journal notes, nobody else has been held to account.

    In closing, they write “Congress created FISA in the late 1970s to protect against previous FBI wiretap abuses. Clearly it hasn’t worked, and more bureaucratic hurdles won’t stop FBI officials who lie or alter email evidence. Injecting judges into secret executive-branch national security decisions was always a mistake, and now we know it abets abuse more than prevents it.”

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    • Beau Geste says:

      So what if there is a “sworn written submission”? Until the FISC disciplines liars (fines, jail, disbarment, referral for perjury prosecution…), this is just for CYA.

      To my good friends at the DOJ/FBI: “thanks for the sworn submission recommending more online training about lying to my court to get illegal warrants on millions of unrepresented Republicans and an elected President. I’ll read IG Horowitz’s executive summary when I get a chance after I retire.”

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  13. richard verney says:

    It is quite clear that there is a fundamental problem with the FISC because, even giving it the benefit of the doubt that it was not aware of matters before the IG Report was published, or genuinely considered that it should await the publication of the IG Report, before acting, it ought, within a few days, of the publication of that Report (ie., latest by 13th Ddecember) called in all the lawyers who signed the Application(s) and/or presented the FBI/DOJ case, seeking the Warrants(s), to show cause as to why they should not be held in contempt of Court and/or for perjury, and why the Court should not also refer them to the Bar Council for disciplinary sanctions.

    The issue as to what should be done to prevent future occurances, is a different and separate matter, but just holding those responsible for misleading the Court fully accountable, in itself renders it far less likely that there will be repetitions of this ‘lax’ conduct, amnd the likewise the failure by the Court to hold these people fully accountable, in itself makes it more likely that there will be repetition of this egronious conduct.

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  14. Appalled says:

    If a judge is informed that a fraud had been perpetrated on a court, and someone’s civil liberties violated as a result, and the judge takes no action, then the judge should be disbarred.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      Not only disbarred, but investigated for complicity in denial of civil rights under color of law 18 USC 242, which applies to corrupt judges.
      Every day that goes by in which the FISC does not withdraw its Fake FISA (used to protect the perps from past illegal spying), is evidence of ongoing complicity.
      Every day that the FISC does not discipline the DOJ/FBI liars and misrepresenting perps, is evidence of complicity.
      The evidence of complicity is even stronger because the only purpose of the FISC is protecting civil rights of unrepresented defendants, which the FISC is willfully refusing.

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  15. iwasthere says:

    Hey everybody the FISA Court is hiring a law clerk! Yeah! Oh, and you need to hold a current TS/SCI, so only deep state counsel need apply. No outsiders please. http://www.fedbar.org/Image-Library/Sections-and-Divisions/Jud-Division-/Legal-Advisor.aspx

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  16. Rachelle says:

    Such a mealy-mouthed comment from the judge I have to wonder if she was in on it. Maybe she wasn’t fooled by the FBI at all.

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  17. SSI01 says:

    A good friend still in the intel community lamented some time ago about how they just could see no other outcome for the FBI’s lying and meddling with the FISA process than the complete dismantling of the FISA process. It would appear it’s going to happen as he predicted. If the FBI lied on one of those applications for a warrant, there’s a good chance they lied on quite a few if not ALL the rest. Then you have the judges who, by all appearances, never denied a warrant request or a resubmission of the request (only one was in fact handled this way, according to the press and testimony), which means the FISA court became a rubber stamp for the FBI and the political entities controlling the FBI. For the process to have worked properly required human beings to behave like angels, which is an impossibility. The human heart is indeed deceitful, and desperately wicked.

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  18. SSI01 says:

    A little late for second guesses, Mr. Nunes. Disappointed you pushed for reauthorization. The program was a prime candidate for termination – with all records being made available to the Barr/Durham investigation for detailed review.

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  19. Hebo Sabe says:

    “Crossfire Hurricane”

    They wanted to get POTUS caught up in it. The name says it all.

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