President Trump China Strategy: Death By a Thousand Paper Cuts…

The New York Federal Reserve made a quiet admission two days ago that was missed by almost all financial media.  In the NY Fed economic blog they admitted everyone was wrong, President Trump’s 2017 tariffs against China did not lead to increased U.S. consumer prices [Read Here].  The Fed also said imports of the Chinese products affected by U.S. tariffs have fallen by an annualized $75 billion. That’s a huge chunk of business U.S. purchasers have shifted to Japan and other Southeast Asian countries.

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Within this dynamic lays the real reason why Beijing cannot wait for a 2020 election hoping that Biden or Bloomberg can stop their bleeding.  Before going into more depth, this brief explainer from Charles Payne will help establish a framework.  WATCH:

What Payne outlines is correct; however, the internal Chinese ‘tariff-offset’ dynamic is actually even a little deeper.  Overlaying the NY Fed research we can see that Beijing has attempted to offset the Trump tariffs in four majority ways:

  • A devaluation of their currency by roughly 10% since the tariffs were implemented.  This makes the dollar a higher value when purchasing.  The U.S. dollar purchases more stuff.
  • Direct subsidies by the communist control authority.  That is a direct payment to the exporting Chinese company to offset the drop in prices they may need to be competitive.
  • Indirect subsidies.  Remember, China is a communist system.  Beijing can tell a province to cancel the electricity bill to a company within that province.  Beijing absorbs the cost.
  • Incentives for enhanced end-product delivery.  As Payne noted in the video the Chinese company just give the purchaser more stuff at the same price.  That additional stuff offsets the tariff cost.   This free stuff shows up in new contract terms.

All of this is an effort by China to diminish the impact of U.S. tariffs against their exports.  However, all of this cumulative effort, while small in the individual pieces, when added up is a big economic cost to Beijing.  Thus the overall economic loss is starting to snowball as the accumulation of offsets is beginning to aggregate.  They cannot continue indefinitely.

China is suffering a slow death by a thousand paper-cuts.  The bleeding of cash in combination with the direct loss of $75 billion in annualized exported products that U.S. companies have now sourced from alternative ASEAN nations is biting hard.

The direct outcome is also a drop in China’s purchasing of industrial goods they would normally use in the manufacturing process.  This lack of Chinese purchasing is one of the top reasons for the stall in the European economy.

There is a natural lag as supply chains reorient.  The ASEAN nations that have picked up U.S. manufacturing contracts first go through a process of increased productivity, expanded utilization of existing manufacturing, before they need to expand to new facilities.    Machines operate 20 hours daily – instead of 16 hours; more shifts are added, etc.  Until production reaches 100% capacity no ASEAN group is going to purchase the warehoused industrial machinery, not purchased by China, and being stored in the EU.

In this investment, lending and financing dynamic, is where the current Wall Street multinational corps and banks are stalled and watching closely.  No-one wants to drop $100 million to help expand a textile company in Vietnam, if Mexico -via the USMCA- ends up being a more cost efficient location.  This status is why passage of the USMCA is an important next step for President Trump’s global trade reset.

A final word on a question often asked.  What is President Trump doing with the trade negotiations with China?  What’s his end?

The answer to that question is actually where one must overlay Trump’s history of energy policy, with the visible signs of his China trade reset that began with his visit to Southeast Asia in November 2017.

President Trump is famously impatient in achieving a financial objective.  He is known to have well thought plans, but he is also known to not pause long when executing his plan. This economic impatience may seem to be at odds with the majority of the financial media who say President Trump is playing a long-game with Chairman Xi Jinping.

ERGO the dichotomy is explained thus:  If President Trump is famously impatient, then why is he being so deliberate and painfully slow in achieving a deal with Chairman Xi?…

Here’s the ‘ah-ha’ moment.

….The current status with China was the final objective.

President Trump looks like he’s being stunningly patient because President Trump achieved his goal when no-one was paying attention. We are already past the success point.

The goal is essentially achieved.

There is no actual intent to reach a trade deal with China where the U.S. drops the tariffs and returns to holding hands with a happy panda playing by new rules.  This fictional narrative is a figment of fantasy being sold by a financial media that cannot fathom a U.S. President would be so bold as to just walk away from China.

That ‘walk away’ is exactly what President Trump did when he left all of those meetings in Southeast Asia in 2017; and every moment since has been setting up, and firming up, an entirely new global supply chain without China.

President Trump is not currently engaged in a substantive trade agreement in the formal way people are thinking about it.  Instead “Phase-One” is simply President Trump negotiating the terms of a big Agricultural purchase commitment from Beijing, and also protecting some very specific U.S. business interests (think Apple Co.) in the process.

The actual goal of President Trump’s U.S-China trade reset is a complete decoupling of U.S. critical manufacturing within China.

President Trump does not express angst, frustration, or even disappointment over the U.S-China trade discussions because the decoupling is well underway.

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Happy Thanksgiving !

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158 Responses to President Trump China Strategy: Death By a Thousand Paper Cuts…

  1. sundance says:

    The article above explains why President Trump doesn’t care:

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    • alonzo1956 says:

      GAME ON!
      Oustanding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Liked by 9 people

    • JMP2 says:

      The question is: what will be the circumstances when Chine realizes that PDJT has reached his final objective?

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      • JMP2 says:

        Oops! China

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      • Fubu says:

        Jim Rickards’ position is that trade wars lead to currency wars lead to actual wars.

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        • Revelation says:

          The way China has been tooling up its military I think it was planning on one regardless.

          Taiwan has always been in its sights.

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          • Dutchman says:

            I have seen many posit this, frankly I think its a foolish notion.
            People feared, when Reagan triggered the collapse of the Soviet Union, by CHALLENGING them ECONOMICALLY, that they would resort to war.

            They didn’t.

            Wars are VERY expensive, you can not start a war, if your bankrupt.

            Second; China is a bully. Look at how much weoponry they have pointed at,Taiwan. Enough to obliterate it, 20 times over. Same think with Norks (China by proxie) pointed at S. Korea.

            Such overkill in weoponry is a THREAT.
            I never take threats seriously, unless the person is truly a nutjob.
            Someone says “I am going to punch you,..if.” If they REALLY intended to punch you, WHY in the WORLD would they WARN you, first?

            China uses threats and bluster, saber rattling, to intimidate other, smaller countries. To BULLY.

            Finally, the last military engagement was the Korean war, and they weren’t very impressive. Perhaps SOME units in Viet Nam.

            Meanwhile, the U.S. has been in wars for the last 20 years. And, given the shoddy quality of products from China, why would the products they produce for their military be any better?

            I knew someone would suggest China might resort to war, but its IMHO, an unfounded, and unrealistic fear.

            Their central problem is they are totally dependant on selling products to the U.S. market, in order to keep their system functioning.
            Going to war,with the U.S. does NOTHING to address that problem.

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            • RePete says:

              China produces quality products, but Americans do not import them. Americans import cheap products instead.

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              • Dutchman says:

                Well, possibly. However, the nature of the conmunist system, is to produce low or poor quality products.

                USSR was well known for this. Its not a reflection on the people, heritage, race or culture, its in the nature of the system.
                So, I am,…sceptical, frankly.

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      • FrankieZee says:

        A full blown revolution in China.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        What I would do if I was a person of means is GTFO with my money. NAO.

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      • Jan says:

        This is cheating because it’s several hours later, but China just called in the U.S. Ambassador to China to rip him a new one….and there might be “unanticipated consequences.” If China won’t live up to what it agreed to w/Hong Kong, who the H**L needs them for a trade partner? They’ve made their intention of world domination very clear.

        Thank you to all our previous administrations who had NO CLUE about China, communism or anything else except as to how it affected their personal bank accounts and who they could pay-to-play next, including our esteemed members of Congress.

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        • nuwildcat1977 says:

          Jan…exactly! If China will renege on promises made with respect to Hong Kong, why should anyone believe that they will live up to promises made on trade? In my opinion, decoupling is inevitable but must be done gradually so that US manufacturers can reposition their supply chains.

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          • Keith D. Rodebush says:

            A while back, Trump openly called for American manufacturers to look away from China for future production. Some people just don’t listen. He plainly plans to bankrupt China to PREVENT war. They have been ramping up for years. Now they will have to work just to keep their own population from defenestrating the lot of them! VSGDJT

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  2. Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

    All of those dire predictions that costs of things here would increase substantially … has anyone noticed any increase in prices? I have not. And I’ve been buying plenty and also hunting around for new not-so-cheap things for my home which I will be buying soon.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      I just remembered that the last thing I bought, a bedroom bench for $268, was made in VietNam. Wish it had been made in the US but better VietNam than China.

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      • hokkoda says:

        Lol, yeah, that was never gonna happen. I remember mocking people on the financial blogs that China does not have the ability to raise prices to “pass on” the costs of tariffs to consumers. Importers would just find new suppliers outside of China…which has happened.

        Btw, I think Commodore Covfefe has a better ring to it…

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        I want to add that the workmanship on that bench was superb. Way nicer than I expected for that price.

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        • Mo says:

          Death by a thousand cuts . I call it a slow frog boil. When the day comes that you can go buy something in Walmart and you have an 80% chance of it Not being made in China we will be decoupled from the CCP. Keep those supply chains moving, get the USMCA enacted, and remain vigilant in the South China Sea.

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      • Chuck says:

        My wife just bought a living room end table. It was made in India and very, very well made and packed well with heavy duty cardboard. Far superior to what the Chinese deliver. I’d much rather my dollars go to India, VN or Mexico.

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      • Dutchman says:

        The woodworking and furniture business in Kentucky, etc. was DECIMATED by the exfiltration over the last 30 years, and it is such a shame.

        Beautiful, quality products produced by companies that had been in business for 100+ years, made with pride and attention to detail,….GONE.

        America has a tradition of fine woodwork, going back to our founding.
        I hope we can get it back.

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        • Conservative_302 says:

          Me, too. I want to buy things made in the USA only. Products made in China, India, Vietnam are crap. I’d rather pay a higher price for something instead of a lower price and have to keep replacing it because it falls apart. If we are talking furniture, you have to look away from the parts of the piece that don’t line up properly or the rough spot on the table top where the finish is bad. Just bring it all back to the USA.

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          • genjake says:

            Bought a couple of pullovers at the golf pro shop last spring. The cuffs on one started to fray and get holes in them right away. WTH?? I checked where they were made, China…. Now every time I’m buying something I check where it’s made. No more China stuff. I have some Kuhl pants that I love. Started to get a hole in the seat where you’re billfold sits. Checked tag and yup, made in China. Emailed the company and told them I won’t buy any more of their products if they continue to make them in China. Got a snippy reply so I guess Kuhl slacks are off my Christmas list…

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          • DFinley says:

            Yes, but . . .

            I’d like to buy everything made in the USA. One of my grandsons, working as he goes to college, recently made a sales pitch to my wife and me for cutlery (knives, etc., for the kitchen). We already had a very nice set made in Germany, several years old but very good quality, that cost a little under $200. For Cutco’s smallest set, plus shears and peeler, we paid $750. Had the salesman been anyone other than our grandson, we would have laughed them out of the house. The peeler alone was $44; I can buy a decent peeler for $2, and if it lasts only a couple of years, it’s still a better deal than the USA-made peeler.

            Whether furniture or knives or anything else, there’s a limit as to how much more I’m willing to pay for Made In America. Sure, everyone says they’d pay more, but when it comes time to pay up, it had better be very little more.

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          • Dutchman says:

            I believe, in stages, thats the plan. Ultimately, truly fair trade means each country competing with every other, without tarifs, subsidies, etc.

            China, for instance, under CCP rule, can NOT compete. All their innovative thinkers are forced organ donors, as innovative thought is reeducated out of the populace.
            And, corruption is endemic in the system, so short cuts in the manufacturing process, and raw materials being diluted not only results in no negative consequence, but is rewarded.

            Its the POLITICAL system, ultimately that is competing.
            Conmunism MUST cheat, because it can NOT compete.

            While saying “No more regime change”, by which he means not attempting to force regime change thru invasion, fomenting rebellions, etc., PDJT’s Doctrine of “Economic Security IS National Security”, “America First” and Reciprocal Trade, will inevitably,….strongly encourage all countries to adopt Democratic and Free market systems, because such systems are inherently the most competitive.

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      • woodstuff says:

        Could that bedroom bench been made by a cabinetmaker or furnituremaker in the USA? Many cabinet shops (especially smaller ones) take on small jobs like what you bought. The quality of materials and workmanship is higher if you do some homework. Only big shops advertise and have web pages. One has to pick up the phone and maybe visit some shops. It is not a “get it now” thing to find and procure high-quality luxury products.

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      • The Plutonium Kid says:

        Actually, I’ve thought for a long time that we should be cultivating closer economic and political relations with Vietnam. It wouldn’t hurt for China to realize that their political, economic and military situations is not exactly rosy. They’ve been stepping on a lot of toes and not just in the United States.

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    • MTeresa says:

      Everything the pearl clutching economist predicted (that means you Thomas Friedman, Charlie “Gasbag” Gaspirino, and you Neil Cavuto) has not come to pass. They were hoping they could manipulate a self fulfilling prophecy to tank things for President Trump. They’ve been waiting and hoping for a recession before the end of this year. Do you think they care about little old YOU and your stupid little 401K? They don’t. When SD shows the meme of PDJT in a yellow vest saying “they’re not after me, they’re after you” should resonate with every freaking American citizen.

      POTUS has done a magnificent job of exposing the #CorruptCorporateMedia for the sh*ts that they really are. We all see it now and cannot unsee what’s behind the curtain. They live in the big city bubbles and think everyone thinks like they do. They hate people like me who voted for President Trump. They honestly think we’re all dense smelly toothless deplorable WalMart shoppers. I say, keep it up media. You haven’t begun to see your downfall. Cold Anger? You betcha.

      Of course this news has been on the Q-T. To report the any news accurately showing success for our President? Perish the thought! The MSM are worse than pond scum.

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  3. frank field says:

    Seems foolish that the EU is supporting Chinese 5G in light of what you have brought to light. They have been warned!

    Trump for Rushmore 👓

    And oh…Happy Thanksgiving Treepers.

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    • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

      Yah that’s crazy. Let China have control over your crucial networks, Europe. Really great idea there. (smh)

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      • Super Elite Lt. Col. Covfefe999 says:

        I see Merkel is the big proponent. What kind of kickback is she getting from China? How do they do it over there? Vacation home? GoFundMe?

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        • zorrorides says:

          Hellooo Light Colonel Covfefe, you give us thoughts on Merkel…

          Talk about holding a ticket for passage to resell at a higher price – when the ship has already left the harbor; that is Merkel.

          Cabal, which is eurocentric, believes they can gain complete earthly power by ruining their own middle class in a conspiracy with communist China.

          All they need for success is for the United States to fall from strength: AKA defeat Trump by a coup and his patriotic millions will not have sufficient inner character to oppose the new government.

          That’s all Merkel and the cabal need to usher in the regime to construct the NWO. They are confident that China can be handled and contained, no worries on that.

          Instead, England with break off into Trump’s gravity field, Mexico will lead the second-line nations into a new and better belief system, US military and economic power will over-match all the opposing powers, and…

          China will monetize/ militarize all communications against Europe, the ME, South Asia, the Pacific, and South America. I expect China to lose that contest, tho it will take many years.

          MAGA KAG KMAG KMAG Trump 2024

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        • The Devilbat says:

          Merkel is a communist from a family of communists. Of course she will deal with communist China.

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          • rah says:

            If she has the resources to. In case you haven’t noticed Germany’s economy is starting to circle the toilet bowel and Merkel and her Greens are helping to speed it up with the EU nailing farmers on fertilizer use and Germany continuing down the “renewable energy” path. When you get down to it, Vehicles and machine tools are Germany’s key economic modes and the US has long been the biggest single consumer of both.

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    • Bert Darrell says:

      Seems like some European countries are playing the losing Pelosi game (that is, not giving PDJT a win even if they catch on fire).

      Let them buy everything from China in order avoid sending Euros to the USA. Good luck with that! China will sell to Europe the same cheap junk that we used to buy while they exported it to the USA tariff free. Haven’t the Europeans learnt that cheap garbage ends up costing twice or thrice as much as the good, durable stuff we make?

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    • Dutchman says:

      frank,
      Its cause the E.U. is conmunism lite, about 10 years away from being just like China,…and next on the chopping block.
      I don’t think PDJT has any intention of actually making a trade deal with E.U., any more than he does,with China.

      WHY would he? JUST like China, the,EU has been screwing us big time, on trade for 30 years.
      JUST like China, the E.U. always rennegs on any deal or promise they make.
      JUST like China, the E.U. is Conmunist, its government by a committee of unelected and unaccountable buerocrats.

      And, its a ‘trade block’; PDJT like BI-lateral Trade deals, NOT multilateral.

      So, WHY in the HELL would he make a deal with the,E.U.? Individual countries, like Poland, Hungary,..sure. But Germany can suck eggs.

      And he will collapse the E.U., just like he,will China, and nothing can stop him.

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    • bruzedorange says:

      I wonder if some in the EU see the situation in which Trump has put China, and think they can exploit (reach out to) a weakened, decoupled China to get better short-term deals for themselves?

      Europe has historic precedent for that pattern of engagement with China. I’m sure the ol’ dragon has forgotten, though…

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  4. hokkoda says:

    Kinda puts those trade deals with South Korea and Japan in an interesting context, doesn’t it?

    It also explains the pressure applied to Pelosi this week by the various USMCA trade reps. There are billion$ perhaps trillion$ on the line here.

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    • Jan says:

      She said she could chew gum and impeach the President at the same time. Of course she can’t, she’s on her way to meet little Gretchen in Spain at a climate crisis conference with her fellow Congressman junket people. We have a “Constitutional crisis” that dictates putting the country thru an impeachment of a duly-elected President and the House has only 8 work days when it returns next Wednesday or so, but what’s good for America is at the bottom of the list.

      IMHAO, she went on this junket to try and avoid having to put the USMCA out on the floor. ‘Course right now, the trade negotiators for the US, Mexico & Canada are trying to work out the amendments the Dimms demand, but my honest belief is that the USMCA will not come up for a vote this year. Not enough pressure from us Americans. And we all know rural areas shouldn’t be allowed to vote, according to AOC.

      Nasty can’t give Pres. Trump a victory on anything since the impeachment “process” is a dud. The USMCA is a no-go this year, thanks to our fabulous Dimms and the “resistance”. Orange Man Bad. America Bad…..WE gots to vote these people OUT!!

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  5. Trump’s China trade deal is actually the terms of surrender. I expect one day a deal with China will be made. But, not before trade deals are in place with others: USMCA, India, Philippines, Brexit-complete Britain, and others.

    God bless, President Trump.

    Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

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    • Robert Smith says:

      The most likely thing is a losing trade deal will be signed with China as soon as MAGA departs the white house.

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    • No China deal before
      * Chinese Fentanyl production is SHUT DOWN.
      • Chinese IP Theft is SHUT DOWN through functioning and proven mechanisms.
      • POTUS has DECOUPLED our High Tech, Industrial and 5g Sectors from China.
      • China’s Trade Surplus has DISAPPEARED, putting us on a “Level Playing Field”.

      At that point, we can talk “RECIPROCITY”.

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      • GB Bari says:

        I think you’re correct. POTUS has no intention of half-baked deals based on promises of future compliance and/or that leave us exposed for IP and tech theft, or that don’t achieve a significant reduction in Chinese fentanyl movement into this country.

        No, I agree – he will only accept the whole deal or there’s no deal.

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        • China doesn’t yet realize that “Phase 1” was simply a stage of negotiation, not a reduction in Trump’s requirements for a Deal.🤣

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        • “Gee, Xi, we’re just not seeing those Ag purchases you committed to make.”

          “Looks like President Xi is trying his hardest to come up with the cash for those Ag purchases he promised.”

          “If President Xi decides to take 2 years to complete those Ag purchases needed to make a deal, I’m happy to collect $ Billions in Tariffs while we wait.”

          “My good friend President Xi has worked so very hard to convince his party that I meant it when I said the Tariffs would be going UP if they delayed a deal. Guess they’ll believe it when they see it.”

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      • Dutchman says:

        BKR,
        Funny. You and I both know for China to comply with PDJT’s quite reasonable terms, would be suicide for the CCP.

        Conmunist can’t compete, so they cheat.
        If they truly comply, with enforcement mechanisms with teeth, their dead.
        If they don’t, its death of a thousand cuts.
        Its NOT a win/win PDJT is presenting China with, its a “Heads I win, Tails you lose” proposition, and the outcome was detirmined at the outset.

        And BKR,…Ain’t it GLORIOUS!

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        • Ba da BOOM.
          Smiles all day long!

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          • Dutchman says:

            Yeah, my cheeks are grinning, although I did get a little frustrated at the nattering nabobs, either totally ignorant, or whatyacallit, psyops.
            Anyway, the schedenfrude is GLORIOUS, as both in the U.S., in EU, in China and worldwide we see conmunism destroying itself.

            Thank you God, for allowing me to live in and witness such GLORIOUS times!
            A special Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, BKR.
            And to Grandma Cofeve, and all the other loyal treepers, too numerous to name, that make the Treehouse the ONLY place to hang,…and of coarse our wonderful host Sundance and crew!

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  6. sarasotosfan says:

    Genius Sundance. Trump’s occasional pause in tariffs has flumoxed everyone who think nothing has been accomplished. In this ‘we want it now’ society, anything that takes more than one minute breaks the attention span of the masses.

    Trump and his team have been a godsend.

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  7. Mike says:

    Every day with this President is a blessing!

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  8. cantcforest says:

    Wolverines applying common sense instead of POWER!,GREED!, CONTROL! Doing the right thing for America.
    The last 20 years of CoC, the Uniparty, and Soros machinations make me sick.
    For God’s sake Pelosi, Schiff, McConnell, Comey, BRENNAN, CLAPPER, Strzok, OBAMA. etc., do you not realize that I have children and grandchildren that I deeply care about.

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    • Dutchman says:

      The most important, impactful doctrine ever implemented by an American President;
      “Economic Security is National Security”
      So simple, elegant and with such far reaching consequences, they will be talking about it, when we are all dead and gone.

      Pair it with “America First”, and it is reshaping the World. To heck with Rushmore, he’s not even thru his first term yet, his reelection is assured, just imagine the world in 4-5 years!

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  9. James Carpenter says:

    Feeling pretty good about the reset of supply chains concept. Am totally willing to accept some pain in the whirl and chaos of reset.
    Because then…. Then comes the day when we have choices again at Home Depot. American made. Or Chinese origin.
    Yup. We’ll pay more for the American, I get it.
    We’ll also get better quality and not need to keep buying the same inferior cr*p over and over that adds to total cost long term. (leaving out the existential national security implications)

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    • vikingmom says:

      I have been contacting every American based company with whom I am considering doing business, to let them know that as soon as they bring the actual manufacturing of their product back to the US, I will be happy to buy their product, even if it costs me more. I have actually heard back from several companies that they are in the process of doing just that!

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      • Mary Wilson says:

        I’ve also been asking store managers for American made products. The stores need to know that the demand exists before they will order different products.
        (by the way, I’ve been doing this for years. It was obvious in the 80s that the job I save would eventually be my own.)

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  10. Mike in a Truck says:

    “On bright side China concentration camps running maximum capacity!” -Reeducation Minister Wei No Noh.

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  11. Will Hunt says:

    Trump and his team are hard charging, first stringers in practical, goal oriented economics – none of our “global partners” have seen anything like this from the US ever. Trump knows well that the American market is what they’re all after and they’ll pay dearly (and farirly) to have access.

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  12. Elric VIII says:

    The Chinese may have invented the game of “Go,” but President Trump is beating them at their own game. Sooner or later Wall Street will wake up to the new paradigm.

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  13. litlbit2 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours Sundance! I never get tired of reading your in-depth explanations made simple. You also have perfect timing as it is a love pat to the heart in face of the 24/7 chaos objectives of the MSM/GOPe/DNC/Soros organizations. As they are trying to keep a lid on the massive advancements made to date by American Citizens and the USA! IMHO, Christmas will we once again since 2016 a very joyous time indeed. MAGA/KAG Godbless all.

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  14. bluenova1971 says:

    I’m not tired of winning yet…how about you?

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  15. BarclayMtnMan says:

    With all due respect, That Glorious Bastard. We are so lucky to have this man running our country.

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  16. Perot Conservative says:

    Things will become clearer, especially when USMCA passes and Boeing overcomes their manufacturing woes.

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    • vikingmom says:

      Boeing is in a world of hurt because they allowed far too much of their manufacturing to be moved to China, along with vast amounts of their technology. It worked out well in the short term for the CEO, Board of Directors, and the politicians who happily gave away our defense capabilities but in the long run, they have done immense harm to a once great company and it’s going to be a long time, if ever, before they regain the trust of the flying public!

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    • Why would we do USMCA? I see Pelosi slow walking it and Mexico backing out. It was originally bilateral so we just do that and tell Canada when they grow up, they can have a deal too.

      Does it not seem like we are also already at the goal for USMCA – no deal, no jobs, no union coffers getting cash influx. As a result those people “walk away” and vote Trump. When he cancels NAFTA and just does bilateral deals that actually help working Americans.

      Which brings me to a question: What is the point of Congress passing the HK law? An attempt to take power from POTUS? If the majority of them are getting dirty money from China which is about to dry up, why poke the bear? What is the corrupt uniparty’s thinking?

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  17. JohnCasper says:

    Hey President XI! In the practical art of economic war with Donald Trump, you must be prepared to fight at any time in the future. In the impractical art of economic war with Donald Trump, you should have been prepared quite some time ago, and it’s probably already too late. You’re screwed.
    – Sun Tzu’s Great Nephew, Moon Yoo Tzu

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  18. Bert Darrell says:

    The very, very stooopid interview that Bloomberg gave recently, in which he (ridiculously) lauds China as being a democracy beholden to the will of the people, and President Xi as not being a dictator, plus the conflicts of interest created by his investments in China, will be anchors tied to his political neck that will heavily weigh against his chances to win the Presidency in 2020 (if he were to be the D-Rat’s nominee). However, he may still be pouring $millions into the coffers of congressional D-Rat candidates who might do his bidding … if they managed to get elected.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/27/michael-bloomberg-chinas-communist-leader-xi-jinping-not-a-dictator/

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    • Dutchman says:

      So, what did Bloomberg say,..that the documented stories of Political prisoners as organ banks, were “Right wing Conspiracy stories”?

      He is as out of touch as Pelosi and Joe, if he thinks anyone is going to buy the crap he is selling.

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  19. TreeClimber says:

    So… where do we stand with NoKo?

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    • Bert Darrell says:

      TreeClimber: to answer your question with another question: have you heard of any NoKo rockets flying towards or over Japan lately?

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      • TreeClimber says:

        If it’s not a Treehouse headline, I’m totally ignorant of it. I don’t have time for more than that, or inclination to visit other “news” sites.

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  20. John Hyland says:

    The best thing about Trump’s foreign policy, in general, and his trade negotiations, in particular, is that he’s doing it all at the same time, for all of the parties to see as it unfolds. The trade negotiations have all the benefits of a multi-lateral deal with none of the downside, while having the benefit of each deal being tailored to that country without the negatives of a one-size-fits-all deal. Also, what really makes it work is that each country sees in real time what he’s doing with the other countries and is encouraged to go along with Trump in order to gain advantage vis-a-vis other countries…China, mainly. Japan was amenable to a fair deal because it could see taking business away from China. Similarly, South Korea. Mexico, even more, could see an increase in its business by becoming a strategic trade ally with U.S. Canada, because it’s led by an idiot, will be lucky to tread water. If Boris wins bigly(big league), the UK stands to cash in immensely, leaving the EU to play the role of Canada(aw, so sad). It’s brilliant. You’d almost think that Trump was preparing for this for 30 years or so….oh, wait.

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  21. Comrade Mope says:

    In essence, President Trump working philosophy on China is “Let China be China”. This works for the EU as well. Or as Maggie Thatcher once said “The problem with socialism is you run out of other people’s money.

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    • Dutchman says:

      While not,….presenting himself as an anti-conmunist, PDJT is engaging in a consistent, well thought out and executed program to cripple conmunism in its new iteration of “Globalism” around the World.

      China is just the current State,sponsor of conmunism. E.U. is 10 years behind China, currently ‘Conmunism-lite’.

      Brexit has exposed how both parties in U.K. are infiltrated, and same here, and the exposure IS being noted, by voters.

      And he still has 4 more years!

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  22. Buck Turgidson says:

    Sundances columns on Trump/US global trade and economics dynamics are the best. This is better than anything from cnbc, the economist weekly, anywhere. Superb insightful analysis, well done! Only thing missing is a clip with Kudlow or Navarro!

    Happy Thanksgiving to all–enjoy reading comments from the educated and patriotic (and witty) crowd that posts here. First website i check every morning.

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  23. USA First! says:

    “There is no actual intent to reach a trade deal with China where the U.S. drops the tariffs and returns to holding hands with a happy panda playing by new rules. This fictional narrative is a figment of fantasy being sold by a financial media that cannot fathom a U.S. President would be so bold as to just walk away from China.“

    What a wonderful, well written paragraph. Made me laugh smile from ear to ear!

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  24. Deborah Fehr says:

    Shhhhh! quiet!!! we can’t have any good news leaking out about PDT. If it was bad they would scream it from the roof top. Good….not a chance.

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  25. burginthorn says:

    Hong Kong Protest, US China Trade War & China’s Inevitable “Disintegration”—Dr. Arthur Waldron.

    Why is Hong Kong’s special status most likely permanently over, in the eyes of preeminent China scholar Arthur Waldron?

    What key mistakes have US leaders, such as Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, made in regards to China over the past five decades?

    Why does Waldron believe the Chinese communist regime is entering a phase of disintegration? And how does the situation parallel that of the Soviet Union?

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    • jeans2nd says:

      This is an excellent vid, thx for including it.
      Dr Arthur Waldron is one of the foremost China experts, right up there with Dr Michael Pillsbury
      Dr Waldron is Canadian, iirc.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      As someone else said on CTH yesterday, if China won’t abide by the HK terms they agreed to why would you think they’d abide by any agreement? Have they willingly followed by any type of agreement they signed?

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    • Dutchman says:

      Well, I’m no China expert, but I have been making the parralel between what PDJT is doing with China, and what Reagan did with USSR, for awhile now, and saying what Sundance says,above, that PDJT’S goal is NOT a trade deal with China, but to bring about their collapse. And, not the only one who’s been saying it.

      Hong Kong may be Chinas equivalent of the,Velvet, or ‘singing’ revolution, which presaged the collapse of USSR.

      Dictators gotta dictate. When they can not brutally supress a populace, in blatant disobedience, they are finito.
      Its what they ARE, its,what they DO.

      NOT to downplay what China HAS been doing to the Hong Kong protesters, in any way,…but its HARDLY a Tienaman type responce. Dictatorships, whether individual or collectivist, know they can NOT countenance disobedience or insubordination from the people.
      They MUST brutally crack down, to not only suppress the protesters, but to send a clear message to others.

      “THIS is what,we do, to any who challenge our authority!”

      Otherwise, the people may realise they outnumber the government, and you can’t shoot ALL of us.

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      • burginthorn says:

        I have been thinking over the last year or so if this entire point in history was Gods plan to save America in order to save China. Is there any other nation that could bring down Soviet Russia, resulting in that country and many of its satellites to embrace their roots of Christianity. Could China be the next, and maybe the last nation to hear the gospel before the end times and Christ’s return?

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        • Dutchman says:

          Its hard for me to fathom, those who DON’T see this as a spiritual battle, between God and Satan.
          I LIKE your suggestion, your thought, and hope its true.

          Much better than America has, collectively turned away from God, and embraced Satan, in so many ways,…and God is giving his willful, disobedient child one last chance (PDJT) to see the error of ways, repent and turn towards God and reject Satan, before engaging in some major chastisement.

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    • Buck Turgidson says:

      Fascinating. How wonderful it would be to sit in on one of Dr Waldrons courses. Had never heard of him. Many thanks for posting.

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  26. 335blues says:

    I submit a video from Epoch Times/American Thought Leaders of a discussion with
    Dr. Arthur Waldrom, “China on the Brink”, wherein Dr. Waldron feels Communist China
    is rapidly heading toward drastic change vis-a-vis its communist system. And like with
    the Soviet Union’s disintegration our disfunctional CIA and State Department apparatus
    will be surprised and caught unprepared. Dr. Waldrom describes the CCP “as the most evil
    regime since the third reich”.
    It is an excellent discussion from one of America’s few China scholars who seems to have a clue.
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/hong-kong-protest-us-china-trade-war-chinas-inevitable-disintegration-dr-arthur-waldron_3158110.html

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    • 335blues says:

      Burginthorn, great minds think alike!

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    • Robert Smith says:

      While I believe in breaks in history, I think China will employ extreme violence before they disappear.

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      • Dutchman says:

        RS,
        No, see my post above. They won’t go to war, nor, I suspect will they engage in large scale acts of violence against their own people.
        They will simply,….collapse as they are no longer able to pay for the INTERNAL security forces, (the budget of which is greater than their military budget).

        And, no longer able to afford the Trillion $ /year tab, for the CCP members and their families.

        They are a dead dictatorship walking, its only a question of time.

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  27. Pale rider says:

    “The LOVE of money is the root of all evil” not money-Putting your focus or your ‘love’ on money or gathering wealth. BUT, money is the equalizer in many regards. When someone, let’s say ‘china’ has a love for money, they are predictable. WHen your love is God you cannot be predictable because Isaiah 55:8 “for my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are my ways, declares the lord”.
    Communism is love of gathering or “mammon” it is easily manipulated and controlled. Focus on God and his provision you are ‘out of this world’.
    Our system of government is unique in so many Godly ways, it would be a travesty to loose it.

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    • Doppler says:

      “Capitalism” as defined by Marx, is basically the love of money, or biblical Mammon. Free markets, on the other hand, are one of the blessings of liberty, where anyone can be a buyer or seller, hard work and innovation are rewarded and the complacent, and the unseen hand of market forces deliver abundant choice and optimal prices. But Marxists are much better at defining the terms of intellectual debates and subverting establishments in order to seize power than they are at actually doing anything.

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  28. alliwantissometruth says:

    “The New York Federal Reserve made a quiet admission two days ago that was missed by almost all financial media”

    Missed, or intentionally ignored?

    Another thing, China, and their totally corrupt oligarchy, would be wise to go along with President Trump’s dictates if they want to continue their commie game of enriching themselves while oppressing their people, otherwise they’ll upset their communist applecart

    China became a world power only by partnering with totally corrupt American politicians and using the corrupted system they put in place, which allowed them to steal or buy the technology they needed to advance

    I’m never in favor of hurting the people, yet at times I hope China plays hardball so they can eventually go bankrupt, which could be exactly what the Chinese people need to finally rebel against the communist con game their elite use against them

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    • 335blues says:

      If the free countries of the world were right thinking, we would band together to completely stop all trade with communist china to drive their economy to bankruptcy, and drive the CCP from power.
      Communist china is the scourge of the world, and the CCP should be driven from power before a war starts.

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  29. sundance says:

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  30. Robert Smith says:

    I’d also like to point out that since the Chinese economy is a strange mix of market and government they don’t really know the true cost. So I have no doubt people/companies are getting shafted all up and down the production process and the economy. The inefficiencies in the Chinese economy will become even worse as companies get used to that governmental payment.

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  31. Gabriel says:

    Im a very glad that at last ,some clever writer has nailed the MrTrump strategy, which I see crystal clear from the beginning.
    MrTrump are a real stable genius indeed.

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  32. Bill Henslee says:

    Trump is breaking China from its plan to control the world economy. Read the 100 Year Marathon by Michael Pillsbury. He is possibly the most knowledgeable scholar about China in the US. and documents the plan that the more aggressive factions of the CCP have been following for decades. But the Trump strategy is to break them through withdrawing our massive economic trade with them and spreading it around the world to other countries.
    He knows that China’s bureaucratic system is not able to quickly adjust to changing economic times and redirect the massive central planning. You only have to look at those ‘ghost cities” they built to realize they are not superhuman economists who are never wrong.Put them on their back foot and they are less able to adjust than the more nimble free enterprise system. The elites scoff, but would you rather have Paul Krugman running our economy? I didn’t think so.

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  33. jus wundrin says:

    Thank you for your analyses, SD. It helps me have more understanding about global finances when my current understanding is rough at best.

    China doesnt play by the rules, and like you said, they never have to since the leadership is the upmost authority over everything. We can see the same situation here with what passes as the post modern democrat (marxist/fascist) party over this impeachment fiasco. Both China and the marxist/fascist dims should NEVER be trusted.

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  34. jambo says:

    Let’s hope that Shanghai 2050 looks like Detroit 2010

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  35. RJ says:

    I’ve heard people tout how great it is to import from China because it helps keep product costs down. My reply is since they pay their workers a few dollars a day, why are the products so expensive? Thirty bucks for a dog leash, fifty dollars for a jacket, etc. Shouldn’t these things cost 1/3 the list price because of the cheap and many cases forced labor? Who’s pocketing the difference?

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    • Robert Smith says:

      And the US postal service is subsidizing them.

      Ever buy anything on ebay from China and you get free shipping? I always wondered how…

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    • JDubb says:

      GREAT observation, RJ !

      I have been saying for YEARS that multi-nationals want to MAKE American Dollars but not PAY American wages ( or put up with pesky safety laws)

      MAGA President Trump PROVED it when he kept 1,000 Carrier A.C. jobs in Indiana in late November 201

      Surprisingly (to Obama and others with no ‘Magic Wand’ or common sense ) Carrier was going to BENEFIT from the MUCH LOWER wages they wanted to pay Mexican factory workers but MAINTAIN the same cost-per-unit , so that they could pocket more profits.

      Thank God Almighty that since Satans’ Daughter lost the election, we actually have a POTUS that rpresunts Blue-collar AMERICAN workers.

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  36. jeans2nd says:

    Doug Weade, Presidential historian (legit), wrote a book on the Trump presidency.
    Weade described Pres Trump and Jared Kushner laughing and being grateful for the Russia Collusion Hoax, as it gave them the opportunity to right our economy while no one noticed.

    Today’s Ukraine Hoax is doing the same thing. Xi just fell into the same trap…again, as are all the financial media, except Charles Payne and his economist.

    When the bottom finally falls out, which it will, Xi is going to be in a worse world of hurt. Rumor is, Xi’s communist hardliners are out for blood – Xi’s blood, hear tell.

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  37. Another work of art on our Geopolitical Economics, Sundance!

    “December to REMEMBER”

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  38. dufrst says:

    The constant thought that has always come to my mind throughout these negotiations with China has been why are we trying to make a deal with the ChiComs? The issues set in these negotiations and the need for Phases, in of themselves demonstrate why we should not be making a deal with this country! Those issues include intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers, fentanyl, state run industries, currency manipulation, and product dumping. I believe Peter Navarro called these the 7 deadly sins. Trump knows all of this. An objective observer seeing these dynamics would conclude that one nation is absolutely at war with the other country. What type of trading partner does all of those things and thinks that it’s completely unreasonable to have those things brought up in a negotiation?

    So, the only solution is to decouple and seek other trading partners (India, Brazil, ASEAN). I will only slightly disagree with Sundance about Trump’s patience. Trump is being patient, but only for our companies to wise up and get out of China before he really lowers the boom! These last couple of years have been a lesson in demonstrating tariffs can be applied and not result in a global depression ala the 1930s. That’s a myth. For most of US history, we applied tariffs in trade and they had positive effects on our ability to grow our industries. It’s frankly the reason we were able to become the industrial powerhouse of the world (and for that matter the reason China was able to do so too!).!

    Trump wants to reestablish the industrial might of the US that has been lost over the past few decades to China and Germany due to their unfair trading practices. In the case of China, their unfair practices stem from an overzealous communist party with global supremacy in mind. While in the case of Germany, we have a nation still milking the favorable terms extended to them after WW2 to rebuild them, during the Cold War to keep them align with us and post-unification to aid them in integrating East Germany. All of those things are in the past and accomplished! It’s time for Germany, ahem the EU, to start to stand in their own right and stop leveraging off the US economy!

    So Trump’s patience is to allow US corporations to move back home and to other competing nations in Asia. He is slowly turning up the heat on China and like the proverbial boiling frog, China believes they are in an actual negotiation, until they are cooked.

    Only Trump could have the foresight and courage to do this. The only way I see Trump shifting is if China gives up North Korea. I don’t see that happening, so we will see a decoupling before too long. The only impediment is the Democrats keeping USMCA shelved for so long. It prohibited investment from flowing into the US from China, but investment is starting to trickle in any way, seeing the latest durable goods orders. When USMCA is implemented, China become eminently expendable! MAGA!

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    • Critical factors that limit the pace & severity of POTUS action on China:

      How long it takes the USA to create the CAPACITY to reindustrialize by overcoming
      • Our skilled labor shortages (apprenticeships, upskilling & reskilling)
      • Our workers-in-workforce shortages (welfare staters, wasted college, opportunity zones)
      • Our materials industry and supply chain gaps

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      • Prediction: Once the USA has restored our manufacturing capacity for Tech, Industrial and Communications industries, POTUS will redirect trade-fire to the next-worst trade abusers, including ASEAN nations that picked up business during the exit from China.

        Note that he has already fingered Vietnam for trade abuses as bad as or WORSE than China’s.

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      • dufrst says:

        Excellent as always BKR. I will say that Trump is on top of that too if Congress would work with him. Ivanka Trump’s initiative on job training is having an impact, but if Congress could get onboard, it will be even more effective at job training.

        The opportunity zones clear the way for investment into our most vulnerable areas, but again bad liberal policy such as higher minimum wages are making those areas less competitive than they would be versus Asia.

        Lastly, merit based immigration reform, that would bring in skilled workers would hasten the rei-industrialization of our nation. It would allow foreign firms that move their manufacturing to the US, to bring their worker with them! If a plant in Germany must move to the US because of USMCA rules, it will layoff workers in Germany to come here. If there is merit based immigration, instead of giving those workers no options, that same firm can offer them visas to move to the US if that firm cannot find the skill labor they need in the US. This will be a boon for the US as those skilled workers will be taxpayers and not tax takers like many of the illegal low skill workers from Mexico and central America often are.

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    • zorrorides says:

      Dufrst, I just wish the South American nations would step up to take their place as US trading partners, and as partners of American liberty.

      The Free Hemisphere, the New World Arrives…

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      • dufrst says:

        This will happen. USMCA is a precursor. To follow will be a big trade deal with Brazil that will like Mercosur with USMCA. The US already has free trade agreements with Central America (CAFTA) and most Caribbean nations. And we have free trade agreements with the Pacific Alliance Countries (Mexico, Columbia, Chile and Peru).

        The only impediment to a hemispheric free trade area (FTAA) has been Brazil and Bolivarian revolutionaries in Ecuador, Cuba and Venezuela. We already see what has happened in Ecuador with the ouster of Evo Morales. Venezuela is bound to expel Maduro and with the collapse of Maduro in Venezuela, Cuba will be on very shaky ground.

        So in due time, the Americas will be free and trade and investment will flow from Canada to Argentina, making Latin America a strong competitor to Asia for US exports.

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  39. bad bob says:

    trump is weirding me out…i dont put my faith in MEN..but this guy surprises me constantly with his insight…

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    • neal s says:

      While I am sure that PDJT has some natural God given talents and has worked hard in many ways to hone his skills, I am also sure that the prayers of many for him and the USA are being answered with Gods hand of protection and blessing for PDJT. God has often spoken to leaders in various ways both directly and indirectly. I have no doubt that God is also informing PDJT in some way or ways.

      I also don’t put my faith in men, but I put my faith in God and he is using PDJT. And our prayers are helping, so don’t stop praying like it is all up to God, and don’t stop doing whatever else we can do, like it was up to us.

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  40. permiejack says:

    Genius! It’s a “Look squirrel” moment. While everyone is sooo concerned with China trade policy, America is leaving China in the dust. Meanwhile other exporters are reaping rewards from his trade policies, China is blind to reality.

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  41. JackB says:

    The Chinese Communist Party will just move their US export production to Vietnam, Thailand and Malaysia among other SE Asian nations.

    The US should end financing the Chinese Communist Party by banning investment in any entity associated with CCP. That will put the squeeze on all the USD & Euro & Yen debt that the ChiComs have taken on. Collapsing their banking system should be our goal.

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  42. mr.piddles says:

    “There is no actual intent to reach a trade deal with China where the U.S. drops the tariffs and returns to holding hands with a happy panda playing by new rules.”

    If accurate, what’s particularly hilarious is the thought of Xi and crew sitting around with their thumbs up their butts, watching CNN, and waiting for a new Administration to take over in January 2021.

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  43. luke says:

    Payne, Dobbs, Clarke Howard…..listen to these fellas.

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  44. GB Bari says:

    Excellent article and expansion of analysis from the NY Fed article…..

    Thank you Sundance! 😉

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  45. TradeBait says:

    So China disintegrates without a shot being fired by us. I can sure enjoy watching that. Well before his candidacy PDT said all it would take was some of his shark buddies on the street that could fix America and reset global trade. He’s had a plan with MI backing for quite awhile it appears.

    Tim Apple is part of the plan and the biggest winner on the tech front. So that tells me the demise of the traitors and seditionists in that industry is already well underway.

    The plan I want to see executed is the one that takes the Soros criminal organization down.

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  46. Maserman says:

    Shortly after Trump was elected, I was approached by a group of individuals close to the President and Donald Jr to help in the formation of what they called a ‘Global Strategic Reserve’. At this time, the China reset activities had not yet begun but this group spoke of essentially this strategy. Their pitch to me was that the oversized influence of China had to be countered and it could only be accomplished by ‘like minded countries’. Trump had apparently decided that the US, Japan and India were the strategic triad that could accomplish this. I held a part of the puzzle that they wanted to be a part of this. I asked a lot of questions but in the end agreed to help. The strategy was to have a one-two punch with US policy being one side and commercial trade with the ‘ideologically aligned partners’ the other. The point I am making is that this strategy of a China reset is much wider than and more thought out than almost anyone (except Sundance of course) gives Trump credit for. At the time I did not grasp the immensity of this plan but now that time has passed I sit back and admire its simplicity and brilliance.

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  47. gnadfly says:

    Even Jim Cramer, a hardcore Dem, is starting to wake up.

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  48. dr. D says:

    Sundance, first of all thank you so much for what you do. It’s greatly appreciated and I hope you’re having a very happy Thanksgiving.

    Secondly, reading this makes me extremely happy and the crazy thing is, it’s about the 3rd or 4th thing that I’ve read or seen (e.g., black approval, etc.) in the last 20 or so hours that make me so happy and optimistic about our great country.

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