There is a very strong likelihood the documentary material that FBI Lawyer Kevin Clinesmith falsified was actual communication from Carter Page to the FBI where Page was seeking their help in 2017. This revelation would explain and reconcile two seemingly contrasting points:
- Point one – The media have asserted, based on leaks from the principal reviews, the woods file manipulation by Clinesmith did not impact the validity of the original FISA application on October 21st, 2017.
- Point two – The material Kevin Clinesmith did manipulate was so egregious and unethical, it stands as one of the most clear examples of corrupt FBI abuse of power in recent history.
This outline will highlight a VERY disturbing picture:
Start by remembering the timeline of the Carter Page targeting through the use of a FISA application to the FISA Court (FISC). The original application was submitted on October 21st, 2016. The first FISA renewal was January 12, 2017 (84 days from origination). The second renewal was April 7, 2017 (85 days from prior renewal). The third renewal was on June 29th, 2017 (83 days from prior renewal).
Avoid the spin, and let’s focus on the facts. According to all reporting on the falsified evidence created by FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, the manipulation of the woods file, happened during one of the renewals.
Michael E. Horowitz, uncovered errors and omissions in documents related to the wiretapping of a former Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page — including that a low-level lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, altered an email that officials used to prepare to seek court approval to renew the wiretap, the people said. (NYT Link)
The renewals were: Jan 12th, April 7th, June 29th, 2017. However, we know from the redacted release of the FISA application there was no material added in the first renewal in January 2017. So that leaves either the April ’17 renewal or the June ’17 renewal.
We know from the Washington Post and the New York Times leaks, again based on principal reviews of the IG report content, that FBI Lawyer Kevin Clinesmith modified an email:
…Horowitz found that the employee [Kevin Clinesmith] erroneously indicated he had documentation to back up a claim he had made in discussions with the Justice Department about the factual basis for the application. He then altered an email to back up that erroneous claim… (link)
That means Kevin Clinesmith modified an email, which then became part of the woods file evidence (citation by FBI FISA warrant lawyer Sally Moyer) to support either the April renewal or the June, 2017, renewal of the FISA application.
Now we look to Carter Page’s reaction to the reporting on the Clinesmith manipulation:
(Source)
The stunning likelihood here is that the email Kevin Clinesmith edited and falsified as part of his FISA renewal manipulation was email communication from Carter Page himself.
It is also important to note the phrase: “and his colleagues“; and then overlay what Carter Page says there with an earlier leaked explanation: “Mr. Clinesmith took an email from an official at another federal agency that contained several factual assertions, then added material to the bottom that looked like another assertion from the email’s author, when it was instead his own.”
It is jaw-dropping to think about the FBI team manipulating communication from the target of an unlawful investigation to continue targeting that individual. Yes, this speaks to stunningly criminal intent…. and that criminal exposure would extend to any individual or entity participating in such an egregious, unlawful and unconstitutional violations of Page’s fourth amendment rights with a falsified application to the FISA court.
UPDATE 5:45pm: Techno is in contact with the background participants; he is able to relay information. Carter Page is confirming he emailed with the FBI including Kevin Clinesmith at 07:43:51 EDT on April 6th, 2017, the morning of the day before the second FISA renewal:
(source)
This April 6th date confirmation and contact timeline now makes additional sense.
Considering NOTHING was ever changed in the January renewal; and considering the DOJ/FBI legally had to have *something* change in order to get the April renewal; there would have been a great deal of pressure on FBI lawyer Clinesmith to create something if nothing existed.
Important context: The FISA application (and first renewal documentation) was delivered to the SSCI (via James Wolfe) on March 17th, 2017, as requested by democrat Senator Mark Warner. We know this from the release last year. This SSCI delivery is three weeks before the second renewal on April 7th. This SSCI FISA delivery was also leaked by SSCI Security Director James Wolfe to journalist Ali Watkins at Buzzfeed. Keep this in mind.
Carter Page emailing with Kevin Clinesmith on the morning of April 6th prior to Clinesmith manipulating the content of an email to support his falsified documentation for the next renewal, April 7th, highlights the lack of evidence the FBI was able to discover in the seven previous months. However, the FBI team wasn’t going to be deterred by the lack of evidence; instead they just made it up.
The timeline here is critical.
Clinesmith likely manipulated the FISA renewal in April because by law extending the FISA surveillance must be based on new evidence gathered. In the following month Clinesmith transfers to the newly created Mueller probe. According to the New York Times and Michael Horowitz: “[Clinesmith] was among the F.B.I. officials removed by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, after Mr. Horowitz found text messages expressing political animus against Mr. Trump.”
The manipulated evidence FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith fabricated was then used by the team of Peter Strzok, Andrew Weissmann, Robert Mueller and Clinesmith for the objectives of the special counsel.
Again, another overlay, keep in mind that Robert Mueller asked Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein to extend the scope of his investigation twice more after the original appointment of the special counsel.
That means Special Counsel Robert Mueller used a falsified FISA warrant as part of his investigation; and that material exploitation continued after team members within the special counsel became aware the FBI members were compromised and likely the FISA warrant application itself was falsified.
Yeah, depending on what people within the Mueller knew and when they knew it, this IG report on FISA abuses could be much more consequential than the media would currently like to admit.
Within the FBI Kevin Clinesmith was responsible for material evidence that underpinned the FISA warrant. Clinesmith then hands that material to Sally Moyer. Ms. Moyer is responsible for the legal compliance within the FBI counterintelligence operations that generated FISA applications.
Sally Moyer was FBI unit chief in the Office of General Counsel (counterintelligence legal unit within the FBI Office of General Counsel). Her assembly of the FBI material is to ensure the citations are in place to support the Woods File requirement. Then she hands it off to Main Justice, the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD).
Receiving the FISA warrant application in the DOJ-NSD is Tashina Guahar, Deputy Assistant Attorney General (DAAG) in the Department of Justice National Security Division (DOJ-NSD) with responsibility over the assembly of FISA applications in Main Justice. In essence, Tashina Guahar is the working Main Justice FISA lawyer.
Shortly after IG Horowitz delivered the draft of his investigative report to AG Bill Barr last September, not only did Kevin Clinesmith leave the FBI but also Tashina Guahar quietly leaves the DOJ-NSD {Go Deep} and is reported to have taken a job with Boeing Corp.
In hindsight the reason for Tashina Guahar’s mysterious exit also makes sense.

















So, will this be another “Declined to prosecute” by the DOJ?
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I don’t think so. This is HUGE! Falsifying evidence and lying to his FBI superior (possibly) lying to DOJ (most likely) AND lying to the FISA Court (FISC – definitely!) are so very far removed from the Mickey Mouse charges brought by the special counsels office that they can’t even see each other. Lying to your boss is one thing (not something I advocate by the way) but presenting falsified information as “evidence” and thereby lying to DOJ (if they didn’t know) and a federal judge (on the FISC) is on a whole different plane with clearly serious implications. When this guy faces a judge, I doubt he will be shown much mercy. Wow, wow, wow, extreme malevolent intent.
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Also wanted to add that the media will more than likely (if they ever get around to reporting on it) will spin this as a rogue lawyer acting in his own.
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On his own
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Likely, but he’s Strzok’s albatross.
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The Walrus is immune to spin.
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This omission, if allowed by DoJ, will signal the end of the constitutional republic and the beginning of another Socialist Communist society.
DoJ, are you there?
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This is all so RIDICULOUS!
The Claim?: This guy falsified the KEY Document Necessary to renew the warrant and his superiors DIDN’T even Bother to Validate/Verify or question this new evidence???
If you can’t see where this is going you’re willfully Blind or just completely out of touch!
There is NO WAY you give Mueller and/or his Henchman a free pass because some “low level” flunky ALLEGEDLY took it upon himself to falsify a Warrant on The President of the United States of America!
If this is a warrant on a Campaign, a Transition Team AND A President, you make DAMN SURE it’s F’N VERIFIABLE!!!
Also, as someone noted earlier, the article claims the original renewal was the same as the original. How can that be if there must be NEW Information for ANY renewal???
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Even more “wow” if he was acting on orders from Strzok. The fact that they pushed Clinesmith out of DOJ suggests they got what they needed from him…implication of Strzok and Page who were part of it. They all texted each other all the time. How long until we get the texts that say, “Did you see my edits? Let me know if that’s sufficient.” Something like that as they went back and forth on the renewal application. Kinda like the 302 “edits” on Flynn.
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Carter Page always seems unable to get to the point when interviewed. He beats around the bush which leads me to believe he is just a useful idiot. He always seems like a guy completely in over his head. He does not seem to have the ability to argue on a path of logic that makes any sense.
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that is why they picked him he is weak and confuse and scared…so his weakness
well he did not see them coming
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Seems to be some sort of profile; someone a bit eccentric that has contact with the people FBI/CIA want to spy on. Patrick Byrne seems to have some of the same personality traits.
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That goofy bastard is a spy. Former naval intelligence. His goofy affection is an asset. Remember that the Russians tried to recruit him and concluded he was an idiot? We know that because it was in their communications when they were arrested and brought to trial by the idiot Carter Page. Back to the topic at hand…. if Mueller used fraud to get warrants then they should be springing Manafort now and dropping charges against Stone. Even that dummy Cohen should get a pass.
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Buzzfeed published the “Steele Dossier” on Jan 10, 2017. Why is Carter Page communicating directly with FBI/DoJ coup plotters on April 6, 2017? Dullard or dull tool who thought he was an insider?
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Ask the FBI for help? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha……….effing bunch of incompetents….
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not incopetent ut corrupted
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The FBI is dead to me for my lifetime.
I encounter them periodically in my line of work and treat them professionally as I expect them to act. I don’t make any political comments and we’re good.
But if I were on a jury I would summarily dismiss their testimony as false.
Yeah Mr. Wray it’s gotten to that level.
Congratulations
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Remember when we used to think that someone arrested by the fbi probably did something wrong?
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{Okay class . . . All together. . . what have we learned. . .?}
“Never ever never ever never ever ever never talk to the FBI – absolutely N E V E R !”
That’s right! Good job everyone!
{class dismissed}
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However, the FBI team wasn’t going to be deterred by the lack of evidence; instead they just made it up.
And wouldn’t the FBI have to repeat the process in order to get the June 2017 FISA renewal?
And how many people are sitting in jail because this is standard operating procedure?
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I keep asking myself how many innocents in jail because they didn’t like the look of them etc
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OK legal eagles, Kevin corrupted the file and then all the people up the line relied on that file, so what statue applies, and what is the punishment? Lying to the FISA Court is the obvious one, but are there more?
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flyboy46,
There are several possibilities, such as tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice, interference with a government investigation, subornation of perjury because his falsified evidence was relied on for the FISA surveillance warrant, perjury, conspiracy, abuse of authority under color of law, and about a dozen other charges I would think on the criminal side of the issues…but more information is needed about exactly what he did before a conclusion can be drawn, such as how this was coordinated with others.
Let’s not forget that sally moyer worked with him on this issue and that she was allegedly his girlfriend, a la shades of the strzok and page affair.
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It sounds like Klinesmith went fishing.. My guess ( because of the timlyness of the CP email) the email chain starts with Klinesmith requesting known information from Carter Page ànd then editing the response and possibly the header (removing the chain trail).
A big red flag and unanswered question about our idiot savant naval academy graduated military intelligence career guy is ….WTH since when was Carter Page working counter terrorism??
CP.is an intentional enigma. He is still trying to maintain (some kind) of cover. It may be years before we know the truth about CP
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Is there any evidence any of these conspirators have flipped? Surely someone will turn to save their ass years in prison.
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So Clinesmith falsified the renewal. Did I miss the part on why they had the Original on Page?
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CP is a little befuddled. Probably on CIA/FBI payroll wondering why they made these false allegations then did not indict. So you used me before for intel and now you used me for dis intel.
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Caroline Atkinson was Head of Global Policy for Google, where she advised Google’s leadership on policy issues and led Google’s work with policy makers, government officials, and key political stakeholders.
Prior to joining Google, Caroline served as President Barack Obama’s Deputy National Security Advisor for International Economics.
https://www.cgdev.org/page/caroline-atkinson
fbi woods is moyer (sleeping with clinesmith) and inside DOJ woods is Tashin Guahar…
the fabrication was the April renewal…
why didnt the Jan renewal need new evidence?
it appears Rod rosenstein may have pulled a sting operation on them..
as in, lets see if Muellers team falsifies the fisa to do this so called insurance plan we stumbled upon.
plus this information is only public after a second insurance policy coup act has taken place { the whistle blower change form for hearsay and Ukraine sequel).
Question – who was atkinson most closely related to in this group?
we have Clinesmith sleeping with Moyer (FBI side); and Tashina (DOJ side..
Where does the NEW IG Atkinson fall in this? (we know he was NSC but with who?)
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That makes Atkinson senior legal counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord who were the former heads of the DOJ-NSD in 2016 when the stop Trump operation was underway.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/04/sketchy-inspector-general-michael-atkinson-admits-whistle-blower-never-informed-him-of-contact-with-schiff-committee/
and Mary McCord’s husband Sheldon Snook is assistant to Chief Justice Roberts on the Spy court
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheldon-snook-a4750513
follow the wives.
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“one of the most clear examples of corrupt FBI abuse of power in recent history.”
What, this week?
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It’s about time to start planning a 63 million man march on the DC mall in support of President Trump.
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A great service you have done for your country SD. I was very fortunate to find this site about 3 years ago and have followed your post ever since.
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Again, of all the investigations likely to lead to criminal charges being filed, the FISA abuse is how it will happen. Serious felonies have been committed, by agents of an organization sworn to uphold the law. The fabrication of evidence to unleash T-1 warrants is the most egregious crime that can be committed by a federal agent or agency. The subject has no idea what’s happening to him, has no recourse to stop the immense collection effort being executed against anyone he’s in contact with, and since the warrants are all classified at the highest levels will never know how badly his constitutional rights have been violated….unless the orders are declassified entirely.
The Horowitz report is great, but useless without the declassified warrants and background information. Once those are released we will get a much clearer picture of “what happened”.
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