Sunday Talks: Doug Collins -vs- Maria Bartiromo – Interview Brushes Up Against FISA Reauthorization…

Representative Doug Collins appears with Maria Bartiromo and points out a position on FISA reauthorization that is hopefully carried by the majority of Republicans.  Collins states an approach where he, perhaps others, would advance a “short-term” FISA extension pending a full review of the upcoming FISA report from Inspector General Michael Horowitz, prior to any longer term reauthorization.

FISA-702 authority, bulk U.S. person metadata collection, storage and surveillance, is set to terminally expire December 15th.  The last FISC report from Judge Boasberg stated that all violations of FISA law are still ongoing and there have been no substantive corrections by the intelligence community to fix the abuse issues. The Judge Boasberg report was written in September of 2018 but not released (redacted) until last month. {Go Deep}

The Intelligence Community (writ large), the FBI and the DOJ are all seeking a permanent reauthorization.  In my humble opinion this FISA reauthorization is the cornerstone motive for an IG report delay.  There is an alignment of interests.

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We know what the FBI and “contractors” were doing in 2016; and given how invested the intelligence community is within the current stop-trump operations (writ large); and given the political stakes for the intelligence community; well, would there be a reason they would just stop electronic surveillance in January 2017 when President Trump was inaugurated?

Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein authorized Mueller to investigate the Steele Dossier in the second scope memo (August 2017). If my suspicions are accurate, the reason Mueller wanted the dossier included would be to maintain Mueller’s investigation as a counterintelligence operation. [An extension of Crossfire Hurricane] More importantly, as a result, all previous FBI exploits using FISA(702) database searches would be authorized.

FISA Court judges Rosemary Collyer (declassified 2017) and James Boasberg (declassified 2019) both identified issues with the NSA database being exploited for unauthorized reasons. We have a large amount of supplemental research to see through most of Collyer’s report and we are now starting the same process for Boasberg. However, an alarming possibility makes it important to outline a rough draft of what appears present.

Boasberg notes the “about” query option that NSA Director Mike Rogers halted, technically didn’t stop. Instead operators used the “to and from” option almost identically as the “about” queries for downstream data review and extraction. The FISA Appellate Court appointed amici curiae to review Boasberg’s opinion and reconcile counter claims by the FBI. Boasberg was never satisfied despite the FISC-R amicus assurances. His opinion reflects valid judicial cynicism within his reluctant re-authorization.

The violations that Boasberg is identifying (March 2017 through March 2018) must also include FISA database searches conducted by Mueller’s FBI team. It is all within the same system of electronic surveillance. The pattern, frequency and specifics of the Boasberg report are identical to the 2017 Rosemary Collyer report. Same violations. Same processes.

Against what we see more visible every day; and thinking about how corrupt we already know the Mueller investigation to be; now consider that without going to federal courts to gain legal authority, warrants, taps etc…. using their database access Mueller’s team could continue to exploit the FISA(702) process.

They could gather material for their criminal cases through the NSA database and then transfer those results to their spun off prosecutions.

That’s why the Steele Dossier would be so important. The Dossier formed the basis to continue making the Mueller investigation a counterintelligence operation, Title-I authority. Without the Dossier creating the foreign construct, Mueller’s team would have had to follow Title-III.

There is a better than strong possibility the Mueller team monitored all of their targets, extracted the evidence they needed, transferred it to prosecutors and proceeded to construct cases. They didn’t need too much actual investigation because: (a) they knew the Russian-collusion/conspiracy was false; and (2) they could just access the NSA database and pull all the material they needed.

My hunch is all of this exploitation is why ODNI Dan Coats sat on this Boasberg ruling for a year. Boasberg presented this FISC opinion in October 2018, but it wasn’t released until October 2019. That could also be a motive why Dan Coats left right before Boasberg’s opinion was released. Perhaps IC interests did not want anyone putting 2+2 together if this judicial review was released during the ongoing Mueller probe.

Keep in mind ICIG Michael Atkinson has dirty hands here.  Within the ongoing OIG FISA investigation by Michael Horowitz and John Durham, Atkinson has a conflict of interest that has not yet been disclosed and could very likely be influencing his decision-making.

The CIA ‘whistle-blower’ Eric Ciaramella had no first-hand knowledge; everything within his originating complaint was based on hearsay. The CIA operative never informed the ICIG about prior contact and coordination with the House Intelligence Committee (Adam Schiff). The CIA operative never disclosed congressional contact on the complaint form; and the complaint forms were changed specifically to accommodate this CIA operative.

ICIG Michael Atkinson never reviewed the Trump-Zelenskyy call transcript and facilitated the complaint processing despite numerous flaws.  Additionally Atkinson ignored legal guidance from both the director of national intelligence (DNI) and the Department of Justice Office of Legal Counsel that highlighted Atkinson’s poor decision-making.

This makes the activity of ICIG Atkinson very questionable.  What exactly is his purpose within this enterprise?  Well… given the nature of Atkinson’s background, it appears his prior work in 2016, during his tenure as the lead legal counsel for the DOJ-NSD, likely played a role in his decision.

The center of the 2016 Lawfare Alliance election influence was/is the Department of Justice National Security Division, DOJ-NSD. It was the DOJ-NSD running the Main Justice side of the 2016 operations to support Operation Crossfire Hurricane and FBI agent Peter Strzok. It was also the DOJ-NSD where the sketchy legal theories around FARA violations (Sec. 901) originated.

Michael K Atkinson was previously the Senior Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General of the National Security Division of the Department of Justice (DOJ-NSD) in 2016. That makes Atkinson senior legal counsel to John Carlin and Mary McCord who were the former heads of the DOJ-NSD in 2016 when the stop Trump operation was underway.

Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NSD players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting.

Yes, that means Michael Atkinson was Senior Counsel for the DOJ-NSD, at the very epicenter of the political weaponization and FISA abuse.

If the DOJ-NSD exploitation of the NSA database, and/or DOJ-NSD FISA abuse, and/or DOJ-NSD FARA corruption were ever to reach sunlight, current ICIG Atkinson -as the lawyer for the process- would be under a lot of scrutiny for his involvement.

Yes, that gives current ICIG Michael Atkinson a strong and corrupt motive to participate with the Pelosi-Schiff/Lawfare impeachment objective.  Sketchy!

ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort – An alignment of interests

The people defending President Trump against impeachment are also people who do not want the intelligence apparatus to lose their bulk data collection (FISA-702) authority.

This is an interesting situation…

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159 Responses to Sunday Talks: Doug Collins -vs- Maria Bartiromo – Interview Brushes Up Against FISA Reauthorization…

  1. Tall Texan says:

    This highlights – yet again – the stupidity and absurdity of the “Trust The Plan” zealots. The only plan involved is the one to undermine President Trump and endanger our freedoms.

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    • Dee says:

      This just sickens me more every day. Oh who are the current joints chiefs? Yes too many people but I want to write them about Vindmens insubordination and why nothing is being done and do they think they are pulling the wool over the eyes of Americans. enough is enough. Journalists so called wont inquire but I will daily as I do with Barr weekly.

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      • CW says:

        ) OIG Report CONCLUSIONS a bust, regardless of findings.

        2) No indictments.

        3) And no, there will be no violence or “civil war” cuz our side just doesn’t do that stuff.

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        • warrprin1 says:

          If your premise is correct, CW, then you have concluded that we are all just a bunch of hot air pontificators.

          Yah…. I don’t think so, Buddy. What you don’t understand about us is that we see Donald Trump as one of us. He has become family. Since he announced his candidacy he has proven himself to be of like mind, willing to take action, and positioned to defy everyone who attempts to abridge our God given Rights. And CW, you cannot overestimate the importance of Constitutional Family to us.

          You want to see some action on the ground. I get that. But this is one of those moments in the history of humanity when it is prudent to keep our powder dry until we see the whites of their eyes. This is not a game to us.

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        • Roland Woltman says:

          Agreed…
          19 FBI agents were taking bribes from the media. For a normal person, prison. For DC FBI the get turned over to the Office of Professional Regulation… Nothing happened.
          4 DNC front companies were searching through the illegally collected NSA database (thousands of illegal searches in the small time audited) working as subcontractors for the FBI…. heck Obama oddly gave one of the 4 a million dollar check from leftover campaign funds late in his time as POTUS… Nothing happened.
          This IG report will list shocking things about the CIA operating inside America… And just like when the CIA got caught spying on the only few people in the world allowed to give them oversight (our own Senators)… NOTHING WILL HAPPEN.

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        • JL says:

          I can guarantee the IG report will contain no indictments. No IG report has ever contained indictments, because the IG doesn’t have the power to indict. What there will be is criminal referrals.

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      • Patience says:

        OFF TOPIC: Nunes is on Life, Liberty & Levin right now

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    • The Phantom Stranger says:

      Trump is just one man even as President. The president has played some things very well considering the level of opposition against him within the intel community and within his own party.

      But the game was rigged in advance against him. He never had a fair shot and likely never will. Even a reelection victory in 2020 changes very little on the chessboard.

      The most important move the opposition made was knocking LT General Flynn out of the game so early in Trump’s administration. They made that move knowing Flynn could gut the National Security Council and give it a radical makeover, reforming its deeply rooted policy direction. That is something the CIA and the Deep State were never going to tolerate.

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    • Daniel says:

      At every Trump rally there are large numbers of Trump supporters with their Q related messages (clothing, signs, etc). The mainstream media absolutely characterizes those people badly but when Trump was asked about them, about Q in particular, he stated he thinks they are some very good people.

      Why on Earth do you want to factionalize and fracture fellow supporters of the president? Not a single ‘Q’ person has done any harm to anyone. What’s the hate about? You don’t make any difference with your point of view and neither do they. Popularity of view points does not change reality — it only places emphasis on aspects of reality to which we have no clear view or evidence.

      Sundance has his perspectives which make loads of sense but has also stated some things in the past which were wrong (such as his assertion that the NSA data collection program is an important tool of government ‘in the right hands’ or that Nationalist Socialism is ‘the far right’ and that the political spectrum is a ‘circle’ rather than a line).

      It serves no useful purpose to place yourself above others in the way you do. It only serves to marginalize and ostracize people who support the president and his agenda. Good work that… right? How is this OFF TOPIC line of commentary even within the policy of this board? It’s not. Nothing in Sundance’s article even talks about ‘trust the plan’ people.

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  2. Angel Martin says:

    Watch previous Democrat “opposition” to 702 reauthorization collapse when they realize that a temporary reauth gives Trump leverage against Deep State abuses.

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    • ann says:

      Angel,
      Given we know from FIS Court found findings the DOJ & ‘contractors ‘ and Intersectional entities abuse our surveillance capability and have since at least 2012: ,

      reasonable to deduce Congress, judges & high status colleagues assume Creep State has or can comprise any individual that challenges their control.

      In the last six years, multiple positive indicators we have no functional firewalls or safety checks operating between these immensely powerful unaccountable and thoroughly untrustworthy entities: DoD, DoJ, NSA, Blob of 17, CIA, SCOTUS.

      Empirical reasoning. .

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    • WSB says:

      That could be why SD mentions that those who want to help President Trump want to reauthorize.

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  3. ThriveOn35K says:

    The short-term re-authorization should be advanced because the citizens that are paying attention should demand it. I share your opinion that the delay is designed to allow the FISA re-authorization. The IC claims how vital this program has been so they should treat it with reverence. If they have created to tool for domestic spying or prone to abuse, it should be dismantled.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Judicial Watch probably said it best, they rubber-stamp the warrants with a reference to the FISA judges.

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      • Tl Howard says:

        All FISA judges should be replace. By damn, I wish POTUS could replace CJ Roberts…or that he’d resign so he could be replace.

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        • Tl Howard says:

          Roberts is either Alan Alda or Phil Donahue, a complete wimp.

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        • wlbeattie says:

          How easy would it be for the “coup plotters” to dig up dirt on Roberts or anyone else for that matter. The NSA data base is like the internet – it’s forever and it seems like it’s been collecting data for at least 8+ years!
          How many skeletons has it dug up?

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          • CM-TX says:

            Roberts is controlled having something to do with the foreign adoption of his kids.

            The only way to start cleaning this mess up– exposing the blackmail on anyone who deserves that reveal. Let the chips fall… & any power over is eliminated.

            At the same time– it’ll show the abuse of data collection by our intel, & what it’s really being used for. That includes profiting off insider info & biz dealings.

            They are NOT using it to protect national security (see the Southern Border invasion). Also any & all training material deemed Islamaphobic/profiling was eliminated for the relevant agencies.

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        • Roland Woltman says:

          Or someone with access to the NSA illegal database has leverage on Roberts….
          That would explain him making sentences in English mean something completely different then what they mean in English.

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          • MelH says:

            His children were adopted from ireland at a time when adoption from there was illegal. I’m sure it’s a tear-jerker story I just haven’t researched yet.

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            • Perhaps it was a “tear-jerker story”, but his “children” are adults, and have been for a few years

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              • MelH says:

                I thought his kids were toddlers! Then what kind of black mail is he anticipating with such dread?

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                • I have no idea, and that’s why stories about Chief Justice Roberts’ ‘kids’ ring as hollow as Joe Biden’s 50 year old ‘kid’, Hunter, who was born in 1970. (Can you imagine Hunter having to pay child support till he’s 68? That’s a minimum; Hunter may be responsible for the child till he’s 72, if college is in the child’s future.)

                  Justice Roberts’ children would probably fall under the protection of DACA (seriously), and since they were brought here as young children, through no fault of their own, they should be entitled to an automatic termination of guardianship upon majority, which they’ve achieved, with incumbent U.S. citizenship.

                  The Roberts are protective of their children’s privacy and there are few articles available about them, but this New York Times piece from July of 2005 describe Josephine as 5, and John, as 4 years old. Add the 14 years difference between 2005 and 2019, and the kids are at least 18 and 19.

                  “Mr. Coffin said that after the Robertses (sic) married nine years ago when they were both in their 40’s, they tried to have children. After a several failed adoption efforts, he said, they “got lucky” with two children, Josephine and John, now 5 and 4.”

                  As to what sort of extortion might be propelling John Roberts to make the decisions that he does, I have no idea what people may be holding over his or his wife’s head. He may not be so much compromised as he just has streaks of liberalism coursing through him.

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                • MelH says:

                  Wow, interesting article, not vitriolic like anything written about Brett Kavanaugh. It truly was a different world, just 14 years ago. Thanks for posting!

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        • JL says:

          There is a possibility, although remote, that this could result in Roberts’ resignation. If there’s good evidence that the FISC conspired with the FBI and they did it under Robert’s watch, he is responsible. He cannot oversee a Senate Trial of a president when he bears culpability in the persecution of that same President.

          The Senate could demand Robert’s recusal from the Senate Trial if it gets to that point. He cannot be impartial if he was providing oversight of the secret court that abused the FISA. I’m not positive, but I think if the Chief Justice were to recuse from a Senate Trial, the job would be passed to the Justice with the most Seniority.

          That Justice would be Justice Clarence Thomas.

          🙂

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          • WSB says:

            Could the President not demand recusal? And in my mind, Justice Thomas should have been Chief Justice, not Roberts. That was also a scam.

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            • JL says:

              The Senate could demand recusal, I would think.

              I agree. When a CJ retires/dies, the President should nominate someone to fill the seat, but then the Chief Justice title should pass to whoever the President chooses. It doesn’t make sense to put a SC newbie in the position without seeing how they perform first.

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    • Toenail says:

      IMO there is no doubt they have created a tool for domestic spying. Americans will not remain a free people unless the system to completely destroyed. The bad this system creates is far more damaging than the good it brings. We know the IC is corrupt and cannot be trusted to use this tool correctly.

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      • Roland Woltman says:

        Much less when DNC front companies have access to it as “subcontractors”.

        Banana Republic much?

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      • The Demon Slick says:

        How can a special counsel be used in a counter intelligence investigation when the special counsel statute says clearly that it is only for criminal investigations? How can all the lawyers in Congress not be able to understand the first line of the statute? How can the whole government pretend that Mueller is allowed to do counter intelligence investigations? When the law that creates a special counsel says no way?

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    • warrprin1 says:

      It MUST be dismantled.

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      • Dutchman says:

        While I agree this system of spying on Americans should be dismantled, I have to ask, HOW, exactly would that happen, and WHO would do the dismantling?

        “If this goes South, we’ll wrap up Balackbriar, hang it (blame) around Pamela Landy’s neck…and statr over again”…

        I really question the alleged value of the system, as touted by many.

        They can’t give any concrete examples, of HOW the FISA system/NSA database has actually been essential in stopping Terrorism, or foriegn espionage ,…
        Cause “its Classified”, but take our word for it..

        OR, they point to Terrorism prosecutions that have been publicised, in which its clear the ‘Terrorists’were treated just like PapaD.

        An ‘informant’, coerced into working for the FBI, so with motive to produce to avoid criminal charges, ‘sets up’the ‘terrorist, then the FBI comes in, posing as sellers of explosives.

        NO indication Fisa or NSA database played ANY role in “keeping us saf”, or any SIGNIFICANT role in setting up,…er I mean ‘catching’the terrorist.

        I suspect these setups were done, expressly to justify the NSA database, to the,American people,…AND were as phony as PapaD’s set up.

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    • IMO the Orwellian Big Brother NSA Beowulf Cluster Supercomputer should be dismantled and every criminal who has perverted and subverted its “quasi-justified” former use should be fired and criminally prosecuted.

      Edward Snowden appears to have been one of thousands likeminded, with his troubles arising for not keeping his mouth shut about what was occurring at the direction of what is a de facto “shadow government” that has been engaged in an Orwellian scheme with surveillance that has escalated for decades.

      The original legitimate signals intelligence analysis has morphed into a retasked corrupt apying monstrosity too easily used for illegal general SPYING that has ZERO to do with ANY legally justified counter terrorism activity. Big Brother is EXACTLY what that NSA system has become. Pull The Plug and Lock Up all the CRIMINALS who have illegally misused that system.

      That would be DoublePlusGood until any reliably certified non-Orwellian personnel could be ever trusted to operate such a computer system, and NEVER as individuals but only as crew teams who watch each other, and have more watchers layered over the watchers to prevent abuses.

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  4. bullnuke says:

    Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts must not have had a problem with the FISA abuse. He is in charge of it all. Not a peep. If he was a principled man he would stop all FISA warrants until the dirt is cleaned up.

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    • Boots says:

      Roberts is up to his eyebrows in compromise. Completely neutered when it comes to stopping the criminality of the US government’s agenda to eradicate the Republic and all Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

      If this were 1797 he’d have been removed long ago from the bench. Or waylaid in his carriage enroute home.

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      • islandpalmtrees says:

        I agree Roberts is complicit. By way of ignorance, indifference or as a plane partisan.

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        • Dee says:

          And that same man will decide if Trump is guilty and proceed to have him removed. Looking more like a military/deep state coup everyday

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          • c ward says:

            I”m not insider, but my 72 years of observation lead me to a couple of things. I’ve heard too many times about O tapping phones of heavyweights…. that Roberts is compromised because of abuse power in an adoption Probably true. John Wayne need not apply for any job in DC – you MUST be compromised.

            Now –

            ) OIG Report CONCLUSIONS a bust, regardless of findings.

            2) No indictments.

            3) And no, there will be no violence or “civil war” cuz our side just doesn’t do that stuff.

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        • Roland Woltman says:

          Or by some NSA database leverage that proves he’s a criminal (or a family member).Often times to me he seems to make decisions that lack coherence with the obvious or his past decisions.

          And if your in the Deep State what a better way to protect your secret court.

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    • litlbit2 says:

      Agreed, so thankful I do not have to address him as Father! IMO another who missed adulthood.

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    • I pray that Roberts retires and Trump names his successor. He was foisted on us by Dubya under dubious pretenses, and has frequently screwed America and the Constitution

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      • littleanniefannie says:

        Had he not had a crooked adoption, he would not have been completely compromised.
        He knows what Obama’s crooks were doing and he not only turned a blind eye, he was complicit in the coup. Granted, he was trying to keep his dirty laundry in the bathroom hamper but that was an epic fail! He has aided and abetted the Democrat coup to impeach the President or at least neuter him. Fortunately, President Trump is extremely strong (after all, God is on his side) but in the process, the Democrat coup has thrown roadblocks down to keep him from accomplishing all of his agenda. The economy is roaring And, no matter how much Obama tries to take credit for the boom, it was a bust until November 8, 2016 (and we all know what happened then)!
        Republicans need a goon squad just like the Democrats have. I never believed in revenge until I witnessed this crowd of immoral, intellectually deficient, soulless, criminal cabal. I will ask forgiveness for my feelings. I would like to hear the Lord say “Vengeance is mine” to these radicals!

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      • warrprin1 says:

        CJ Roberts should never have accepted W’s nomination to the SCOTUS – let alone as CJ. Inability or unwillingness to tell the difference between should and shouldn’t delineates the difference between a weak and a strong man. That goes for us, the women, too.

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      • Excluding the two justices that PDJT appointed, the only justice on the Supreme Court that’s younger than John Roberts, is Elana Kagan. It would be much more likely that Thomas, Alito, Sotomayor, Breyer or Ginsburg were to die or retire before Roberts.

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    • trapper says:

      He’s not in charge of anything, except in name. Clueless. Never been red pilled. Immune to red pills. He’ll never get it. Doesn’t want to get it. Refuses to admit there is even an “it” there to get. Smart as a whip, and dense as a concrete wall. The personification of “empty suit.”

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  5. JohnCasper says:

    FISA means American citizens, who are not ‘Deep State’, are presumed guilty until never proven innocent.

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  6. “When a law is broken, you must fix it.” The FISA system, conceived after people didn’t like what Richard Nixon was doing, was easily and repeatedly abused … an abuse that no doubt continues to this day. When two Judges of that secret court, and the former Director of NSA, are describing these things to you … documenting thousands of illegal acts … and when today we know that millions of searches are being made each month (hence, tens of thousands per day …), you are faced with “a national security issue of an entirely different kind.” A nation consists of its People.

    Both FISA and the PATRIOT Act need to be scrapped and re-engineered based on the wrongdoing we have discovered concerning them. These are fundamental security holes which expose the nation itself – by exposing its People – to never-contemplated dangers that were literally enabled by the legislation itself. “When a law is broken, you must fix it.”

    Release of the Horowitz report should be expedited as much as possible to allow some time for public comment and review of the FISA and PATRIOT Acts based in part on the abuses that the IG will have uncovered. The private sector contains many qualified security professionals who can and should contribute to how Congress should move forward with new laws and policies. “We, the People don’t work for you – you work for us.”

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  7. Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

    My hunch is all of this exploitation is why ODNI Dan Coats sat on this Boasberg ruling for a year.

    Why did Coats authorize the release either of them (Boasberg or Collyer) at all?
    When so easy to claim “national security” for both.
    Doesn’t FOIA specifically exclude FISA?

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  8. Elric VIII says:

    It seems there are more Black Hats than White Hats, and the WHite Hats are either pulling their punches or are powerless. And what is that book that ICIG Atkinson has his left hand on while apparently taking his oath of office? It sure doesn’t look like a Bible.

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    • billrla says:

      Elric VIII: Good catch. That book is the U.S. Tax Code (Abbreviate Version). Everyone in government swears by it.

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    • billrla says:

      Elric VIII: Good catch! That book is the U.S. Tax Code (Abbreviated Version). Everyone in govenment swears by it.`

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Was there a single white hate in the 8 years of Obama? Who? HilLIARy? Holder? Brennan? Comey? Clapper? Yates? Biden? McCabe? Rosenstein? Lynch? Rice? All black hats!
      Let me hear Obama say again “not even a smidgeon of scandal” and Biden nod his bobble head. Scandal was a big deal in the Obama administration. A big F#@k!n8 deal!! Intelligence Criminality, not intelligence community! Maybe intelligence Communism!

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Was there a single white hate in the 8 years of Obama? Who? HilLIARy? Holder? Brennan? Comey? Clapper? Yates? Biden? McCabe? Rosenstein? Lynch? Rice? All black hats!
      Let me hear Obama say again “not even a smidgeon of scandal” and Biden nod his bobble head. Scandal was a big deal in the Obama administration. A big F#@k!n8 deal!! Intelligence Criminality, not intelligence community! Maybe intelligence Communism!

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  9. JohnCasper says:

    I doubt the Founding Fthers could have even imagined something as un-patriotic as the so-called “Patriot Act”.

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  10. islandpalmtrees says:

    You have got to be crazy to re-authorize FISA. The intelligence community have shown themselves to be totally incapable of using the FISA process legally. Plus the FISA act is already known to be unconstitutional.

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    • warrprin1 says:

      Human nature has proven itself to be totally incapable of using the FISA process, or anything akin to it, legally, justifiably, or morally. It is unconstitutional because our Founding Fathers were particularly wedded to the concept of morality in governance.

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  11. joebkonobi says:

    Knowing what we all know it is only logical and prudent to do a short term FISA extension. However that is exactly why they will not do it and push through a permanent authorization because FISA abuse = political power abuse and they know if the FISA report comes out before authorization the public will demand those abuses be addressed.

    I assume the President has to sign off on the authorization. I think he could make a good case to “we the people’ that he will not authorize it permanently until after the FISA report is released and Congress has the opportunity fix the identified abuses. At least I hope he is getting that message out behind the scenes.

    The problem is we have too few people in Congress & Deep State doing the right things for the right reason for the right people and far, far too many doing the wrong things for the wrong reasons for the wrong people.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      The internet has shown us that the IC has been fixing this FISA abuse for the last 50 years. How do you think that has worked out.

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    • dwpender says:

      Our constitutional system never contemplated that legislators should be in the business of keeping secrets from their constituents. Anything shared with one legislator ought to be equally available to all (no Gang of 8, super secret intelligence committees, etc). And anything shared with legislators ought to be available to us, their constituents, so we can form our own opinions and judge our legislators’ performance.

      Our system certainly did contemplate that the Commander in Chief and his military subordinates could and would keep some secrets. There is no other way wars could be fought.

      We should get the legislative and judicial branches entirely out of the business of keeping secrets.

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    • ann says:

      I have no evidence that infdicates the DoJ is actually under Barr’s control. Ditto for State Dept and Secretary Pompeo.

      The spectacle talking place in Congress, and the total lack of PUNISHMENT for BLATANT CRIMES indicates Resist is in charge at operational levels.

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  12. @ChicagoBri says:

    l’d rather take my chances with terrorism versus having un-American scum digging up dirt on whomever they please, whenever they wish, for whatever purpose they propose.

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    • The Boss says:

      It may not be that bad a chance we’d take. If we actually had people who cared about the country rather than ideology and political correctness, it’s likely that 9/11 would have been averted, not to mention the Boston Marathon bombing and countless shootings (Parkland HS, Pulse Nightclub, Virginia Tech etc etc etc). Additionally, money saved from curtailed domestic spying could be redirected to securing the borders and developing HUMINT sources around the world.

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      • RobInPA says:

        Philip Haney, one of DHS’ top terrorist hunter’s at the time, had excellent intel that something was amiss within the Muslim/Mosque community in the San Bernardino, CA area.

        As soon as the hadji-in-chief found out about Haney’s work, that he was hot on the trail of possible terrorists operating out of the S-B mosques, hadji’s ilk ordered Haney to cease his operation there and destroy all records and evidence that he and his team collected.

        It possible that if the hadji-in-chief had not terminated Haney’s work there that 14 lives could have been saved and 20 or so injuries could have been avoided.

        Yeah –

        FBHO x 1000!!

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  13. islandpalmtrees says:

    One last thing, dismantle all of the hardware connected with the NSA Database. And, destroy all of its component parts. Let no data of any kind be transferred or remained, in any manner.

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  14. All Too Much says:

    I wonder if Atkinson thinks people are not aware of what he’s done.
    Collins said Schiff will be witness number one.
    Atkinson fits nicely as witness number two.
    Actually, thinking through a longer list is fun, but putting it here might eat up too much band width.

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Totally agree!

      Like

    • dwpender says:

      Perhaps Atkinson will be Durham indictee (to coin a phrase) number one!

      Liked by 1 person

      • ann says:

        When? Why does it take so long? Why can’t they arrest individuals on the many littler crimes we see happening every day?

        I’m not in LE or an attorney, but find it very difficult to invest in restoration of control of our rogue government when there are no changes to their staff
        Additionally, it’s unrealistic to posit the DoJ is under Barr’s control when it clings to their stupid protocol that decrees cases must go to DC, NYC, Virginia, etc.

        Those are contaminated offices and tainted jury pools. . (obviously).

        I Reciprocate their complete lack of respect for me.and fellow citizens. I want major defunding, deconstruction, decentralisation and firewalled parallel agencies staffed by recruits from outside DC that are not millionaires.

        Not willing for my country to continue to be the butt of their charades & sick jokes.

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  15. JBS says:

    At some point Trump confront his own party. If FISA is reauthorized before the FISA IG report is out, veto it. Stop putting derp staters in charge of the FBI and CIA.

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  16. JBS says:

    At some point Trump confront his own party. If FISA is reauthorized before the FISA IG report is out, veto it. Stop putting derp staters in charge of the FBI and CIA.

    Liked by 2 people

  17. Boots says:

    Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius.

    Liked by 2 people

  18. Craig Furlong says:

    On a side-show note, PDJT’s tweet on Friday’s demented charade was CLASSIC TRUMP!

    So, he doesn’t get a fair hearing…
    Hmm… Well, what does he do?

    BOOM!
    He AGAIN tells America THE TRUTH about what’s really going on in the country (GOOD FOR HIM!)!
    Thank you, Mr. President! Keep up the good work!

    And what about the diminutive dems?
    He basically told them to GO POUND SAND!

    Psalm 23:1
    The Lord is my Shepherd,
    I shall not want.

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    • coolmamie says:

      Trump confounds me. Suppose he send different tweets than the one he did:

      “Two first first witnesses ask what crime Trump committed. Neither could name one.”

      “Third impeachment witness asked if Trump had committed crime on phone call. Said ‘No'”

      “First impeachment witness said millions in US Aid disappeared during Obama administration.”

      and so on…

      He could be tweeting every point made in his favor.

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      • GB Bari says:

        So he would be essentially giving credibility to the DemonRATs fraudulent process. By detailing and responding point by point what transpires in the clown chamber.

        IMO he’s better off doing exactly what he’s doing.

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    • coolmamie says:

      And…

      “IG report may be delayed to get renewal of 702 law which has allowed thousands of unauthorized searches into private American citizens.”

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  19. Kent says:

    …interesting situation!?

    More like incredible….

    As is this website and the information presented here.

    Thank you Sundance and all who make CTH what it is……..

    (now to read this seven or eight more times)

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  20. susanphd says:

    Great article, Sundance. What this implies is that the Mueller group used the NSA database to get illegal evidence on: Manafort, Flynn, Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, Papadoupolus, etc.; Then passed that knowledge of illegal evidence on to FBI, who raided their homes (to get the hard copies.)

    In normal situations, this would be “fruit of the poisonous tree.”

    If they can do it to them, they can do it to us. Must be reformed, otherwise we will surely become a dictatorship / police state (as if we aren’t one already?)

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    • littleanniefannie says:

      Calling Judge Sullivan. Calling Judge Sullivan. Anyone seen or heard from Judge Sullivan? We know he wears a black robe, just waiting to see what color hat!!

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  21. trapper says:

    “ICIG Michael Atkinson is the link that connects Spygate to the Schiff Impeachment Effort – An alignment of interests…
    The people defending President Trump against impeachment are also people who do not want the intelligence apparatus to lose their bulk data collection (FISA-702) authority.
    This is an interesting situation…”

    Yes!! And because it is ALL connected, it is difficult to present any single aspect of it without opening the door to introduction of evidence establishing the interconnectedness of all of it. Say, for example, an actual impeachment trial in the Senate on any of the matters the House is trying to tie impeachment to. Oops! Here comes Atkinson on Trump’s witness list, and here we go back to the FISA warrants and his involvement, and all of it comes tumbling out onto the floor of the Senate, a big steaming pile of corruption and treason and illegal spying and coup d’etat plots. And the democrats are too damned stupid and singleminded to see it coming and stop themselves from going over the cliff with it.

    As the target, Trump stands in the absolute center of it. And because he is at the center of the corrupt attempts to overthrow a duly elected president, he has all the participants by the short hairs. Any thread they pull. he ropes them all in. In other words, he single-handedly has them surrounded from the inside. Everyone get it now?

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    • Boots says:

      he single-handedly has them surrounded from the inside

      “No, no, no! I got ’em just where I want ’em. Surrounded from the inside!”
      ~ Jerry “Mad Dog” Shriver, ‘Nam 1962-1969, 5th SF group, MACVSOG, replying to 6’s plan to use air support against the VC force that had Shriver and his band surrounded.

      With suppressed M3 (Grease Gun)

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    • Dixie Sugarbaker says:

      I have wondered if in the Grand Jury materials in the Mueller Report, one of the get Trump witnesses gave some false testimony that links Trump to Ukraine, which is why the Dems are trying to access Grand Jury materials and why IG Atkinson green-lit the bogus whistleblower complaint.

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  22. I agree 100% with Kent’s statement: “Thank you Sundance and all who make CTH what it is……..”

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  23. Heika says:

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  24. Bogeyfree says:

    I know the FISA Reauthorization is a legislative issue but surely…………

    Barr is aware and has seen the 47 hard drives that Montgomery gave the FBI of that spying.

    Barr is aware of the Adm Rodgers & Collyer FISA Abuse audit/report

    Barr is aware of the massive FISA FIB Contractor Abuse

    Barr is aware that in 2017 via the FBI Contractor conducted over 3,100,000 searches in one year

    Barr is aware and has read the upcoming IG FISA Report

    So with all this first hand knowledge and a man who has 100% authority to declass ANYTHING and he says NOTHING to Congress of his concerns and that maybe they might want to consider some legal changes???

    Why wouldn’t the man who spoke so passionately at South Bend and then earlier this week not be screaming at the top of his lungs that changes need to be made.

    Not a peep. A HUGE tell IMO and I’m surprised Sundance didn’t include this lack of speaking and stepping up by Barr in this thread.

    This is why IMO Barr is going to do NOTHING to any DOJ or FBI employee with regard to FISA abuse or the coup to take down PT.

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    • Roland Woltman says:

      The previous IG Reports have been beyond alarming.
      Little to nothing has come from them.

      I too fear more lip service and a lifetime of wondering if people like Chief Justice have been compromised by our clearly out of control intelligence/Justices apparatus.

      Liked by 1 person

      • ann says:

        A reasonable person would assume, based on FIS Court found findings & pattern of conduct, that the Creep State compiles & holds compromat on every individual.

        Its also reasonable to assume the Creep State will create material if necessary,.

        Finally, any person that challenges their control (Flynn, POTUS, Kavanaugh, etc)
        has a full scale witch hunt unleashed on them.

        Ask Mr. Stone if he still wonders or agrees with me that Judge Roberts has no testicles..
        Notably, Podesta and the hundreds of other fixers waltz free.

        Its up to us,

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  25. JustSomeInputFromAz says:

    For what it is worth just sent this to my CongressCritter:

    “Dear Congressman Schweikert,

    Certain elements of the FISA system face sunset or a re-authorization before the end of this year.

    Also we have a DOJ IG Report regarding possible FISA abuse during FBI operation “Crossfire Hurricane” supposedly coming out.

    I urge you to not vote for any permanent re-authorization of anything related to FISA until we the Citizens have had the opportunity to carefully review the DOJ IG report regarding “Crossfire Hurricane” and FISA.”

    Liked by 5 people

    • ann says:

      You are polite. Mine are a solid block of career safe seat Resist

      interactions with my Senators and their staffers is like discourse with a mental mushroom

      New input is categorically denied. Facts are dismissed on the basis that the DoJ & Bureau had no problem with Biden & , Clinton’s extortion of foreign governments, and profiteering

      Ditto re Persecution of Kavanaugh , Flynn conviction , and Mueller 17 Blob creation that refuses to admit Trump did not steel the election and is not an eminent danger to the globe. .
      In each case, the inaction of the tip top Bureau & DoJ is cited to nullify reality .

      Resist is on autopilot. In their view the output is predetermined: no quarter war. . . .

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      • JustSomeInputFromAz says:

        Hi ann,

        Rep. Schweikert is actually pretty good.

        Member of the Freedom Caucus. His forte is spending/revenue which is why he rarely appears on any national shows.

        Coincidentally he was on a local radio program this morning and did a great job laying out how the Tax Cut has helped EVERYONE contrary to the “crumbs” narrative.

        BR

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        • ann says:

          AZ,

          I’m astonished. Thank you. A bright spot.
          ,
          My mind gets too flooded by Resist’s oppressive use of law to crush dissent .

          Need to balance w the positives.

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  26. snellvillebob says:

    FISA needs elapse. Make the IC community earn it back, by putting their own in prison. They are more an extreme danger to us and our families than foreign terrorists are.

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  27. Raptors2020 says:

    The essential enterprise here is to destroy all distinctions about how the evidence was actually obtained. The totalitarian state has the absolute right to all information. Hey, the totalitarian state has the absolute right to anything it wants.

    We see Margaret Brennan’s insistence that evidence acquired by eavesdropping is “first-hand”.
    Its the totalitarian logic that accusation is evidence of guilt. The Mazie Hirono insistence that you must prove your innocence.

    The worship of Government can lead no where else; the assertion we’re hearing now at Schiff’s show trial that CIA/FBI/State Department officials must be believed because they are the Government officials. Evidence of innocence is required from the accused, but offering that proof is an offence to the State.

    The provenance of the proof of guilt becomes trivial if proof is an afterthought. The proof of guilt was produced by illegal spying? The proof of guilt was obtained through perjury? The proof of guilt was obtained by torture? Unfortunate, but not compelling. The accusation is the proof. We move on.

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  28. Sherri Young says:

    I usually dislike it when people repeat posts ad nauseum, but today’s your unlucky day.

    1) “Former FBI agent Mike German talked about his book, The Disrupt, Discredit, and Divide: How the New FBI Damages Democracy, in which he argued that the FBI has shifted its focus from law enforcement to domestic intelligence agency in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.” He speaks quite openly about how parallel construction is not a rarity at all, but SOP. He also talks about the FBI culture. Not a Trump guy, but seems to object to America being a police surveillance state. The FBI would not clean up itself, so he has put it into a book for We The People.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?464265-1/disrupt-discredit-divide

    2) While we are waiting for the FISA abuse report…

    This FOIA request letter from the ACLU went to the domestic intelligence community in mid July 2016 just before Crossfire Hurricane (X-FIRE Hurricane) was said to have been opened. A description of “parallel construction” begins on the lower part of page 2 with the heading of “Background” and continues with relevant examples. Read through all of page 5.

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/files/field_document/parallel_construction_foia_request.pdf

    As always, there is red meat in the footnotes, such as:

    FBI Hides Its Surveillance Techniques From Federal Prosecutors Because It’s Afraid They’ll Become Defense Lawyers

    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160423/20522034256/fbi-hides-surveillance-techniques-federal-prosecutors-because-afraid-theyll-become-defense-lawyers.shtml
    ——————–
    The FBI seems to be very certain that they do not want their “sources and methods” exposed when it is illegal surveillance and parallel construction.

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  29. Heika says:

    This would be interesting and somewhat ‘proactive’ for a change

    Liked by 2 people

  30. Heika says:

    Nice summary by Ratcliffe

    Liked by 1 person

  31. A2 says:

    There seems to be confusion about the FISA “ reauthorisation”. Actually it was reauthorised in 2018 and signed by the President. At that time, four provisions in the Act were amended subject to periodic oversight review at that time, not the Act itself.

    What is up for ‘permanent’ reauthorisation are four FISA provisions: the “roving wiretap” provision, the “business records” provision, the “lone wolf” provision, and the Call Detail Records (CDR) program, the latter being the most controversial.

    The President’s Administration was actually arguing for the CDR that allowed the agency to collect certain telephone metadata, known as call detail records. “Technical inefficiencies, defects and irregularities with the program, however, meant that NSA collected more records than it was legally authorized to obtain. This caused the agency to decommission the CDR program and to delete all the data collected under it. In a letter to Congress this August, Dan Coats, then the director of national intelligence, urged the legislature to reauthorize the program despite its having been decommissioned.”

    There was a meeting in the Judiciary committee on 20 September 2019 on these issues and other issues relating to provisions in the Act. Then nothing happened because of the clown show in Congress.

    What Mr Collins is suggesting is a temporary reauthorisation of the four provisions until further hearings can be held to continue the debates over the flaws or merits of these issues, and the IG report may help bring evidence forward to highlight that. All in good order.

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  32. vikingmom says:

    I am wondering if the President’s exchange with William Barr last week, prior to heading to Louisiana, was about the pending re-authorization of the FISA. If the AG was telling him that no major indictments were coming from the Horowitz report, maybe the President is taking the weekend to mull over finally using the Zippo and letting it ALL burn down…

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  33. Sherri Young says:

    I expect the Horowitz FISA report to either include or be followed by a report on other unlawful domestic spying by the FBI. From item 2 of my comment above, The FBI even bugs the environs of a target without using proper process. So now…

    A) Employees and contractors of the FBI have committed crimes that should trigger criminal investigations of these same people and lead to at least indictments, and

    B) (The big one) As has been pointed out before, the FBI has infected an unknown number of criminal cases with evidence that is fruit of the poisonous tree. That could lead to inmates having their cases reopened, and possibly exposing the government to big $$$ damages.Even worse, it could cause a wave of predators to be released back into society because of legal problems with sting operations.

    What the heck has the FBI wrought?

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  34. Nan says:

    I am tired of hearing politicians, pundits, and prattlers say the plots to remove President Trump from office are because they “hate” him. It doesn’t matter who Republicans elected, these people hate period. They hate the policies the President implements, they hate America and its godly heritage, and they hate that their evil machinations are going to be exposed!!

    I do like Congressman Doug Collins, but I think he is missing an important point.

    Liked by 6 people

    • vikingmom says:

      Thank you! Until the Republicans actually bring up that point in every single interview most of the voters are not going to grasp the level of vile corruption that has infiltrated their government…these people do not give one da*n for the average citizen and we need to start making that point explicitly clear!!

      Liked by 3 people

      • ann says:

        Play offence. Our GOP leaders suck. Lurkers who run and hide as if ashamed to really fight for the people that put them there,

        Less than 10 I can think off that are willing to stand up and stay in the fight. They still don’t hit back. Can’t win on points. Resist declared no quarter war on us.

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  35. Appalled says:

    I don’t know who vetted Mr. Atkison, but they did not serve President Trump.

    Liked by 1 person

  36. dave casper says:

    As long as the C.I.A runs everything, nothing will change.

    Liked by 1 person

    • vikingmom says:

      Never liked James Carville but he was definitely correct when he pointed out that most Presidents remain popular when the economy is doing well and right now, ours is going VERY well, across ALL sectors!! Hard to vote against a President who is bringing back high paying jobs in order to elect someone who promises higher taxes on people who work and more benefits for people who don’t!

      Liked by 1 person

      • livefreeordieguy says:

        For President Clinton, it was: “It’s the economy, stupid”
        For President Trump, it is: “Economy? What economy?”…
        And, to the extent anybody reports on it — it’s “Obama’s economy” anyway, Vikingmom…
        PDJT gets no wins… So it is written, so it is done. I pray that fair-minded Americans see through this nonsense.

        Liked by 2 people

        • vikingmom says:

          I think they are starting to see the desperation of the MSM – and they are also seeing their job prospects improve and their 401K going up…I think it’s starting to click for quite a few people!

          Liked by 2 people

          • livefreeordieguy says:

            “Are you better off than you were four years ago?”…. Seems like an easy ‘click’ to me, Vikingmom… I sure you hope you are right and people see it.

            Liked by 1 person

  37. davidberetta says:

    Sometimes – I need a lover who won’t drive me crazy! Good Gosh!

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  38. Sherri Young says:

    Judge says, “Nix” to “because we felt like it” searches of digital devices at ports of entry.

    Federal Court Rules Suspicionless Searches of Travelers’ Phones and Laptops Unconstitutional

    https://www.eff.org/press/releases/federal-court-rules-suspicionless-searches-travelers-phones-and-laptops

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  39. Richard Whitney says:

    Has there already been a FISA warrant on Pelosi and/or Schiff? There may have been probable cause for one.
    That sudden, unannounced trip to Jordan and Afghanistan (if those were the real destinations), meeting with whoever they met with, might have produced some interesting comms.
    Maybe that SCIF isn’t so S.

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    • ann says:

      St this point, I’m unsure AG Barr is in control of the DoJ.
      Ditto w Secretary Pompeo at State
      & DoD, NSC are backstabbing.

      Why no major personnel reorganisation? Citing “rules” & administrative “Laws “ as justifications for Creep Staters Resistance is an Orwellian denial of reality. These people are nullifying our right to govern the country, to have borders, to have control of our foreign relations, to have secure intelligence.

      This is grave, and meekly colouring inside their little prefab boxes is equivalent to surrendering our country to a despotic police state run by a permanent closed caste of invulnerable plutocrats .

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  40. islandpalmtrees says:

    Why is the Lawfare Group not prosecuted by the DOJ’s FARA Unit for violations since the Lawfare Group clearly represents the interest of China. As we all know, China funds the Lawfare Group through a proxy?

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  41. islandpalmtrees says:

    Could this be the reason: why the Lawfare Group is not being prosecuted by the DOJ’s FARA Unit for violations.

    AS PREDICTED: Corrupt Mueller Hack Attorney Van Grack Slid Back into DOJ’s FARA Unit — And Is Now Leading FARA Probe Against Rudy Giuliani
    by Jim Hoft November 16, 2019

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/as-predicted-corrupt-mueller-hack-attorney-van-grack-slid-back-into-dojs-fara-unit-and-is-now-leading-fara-probe-against-rudy-giuliani/

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  42. islandpalmtrees says:

    If the Lawfare staff used by the Judiciary (Eisen & Berke) and HPSCI (Goldman) committees are derailed by FARA violations. Then Schiff will need to do his own work or find a different funding source. Right?

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  43. CM-TX says:

    I have a theory that the use of a VPN, thus appearing as a random IP address from a foreign country– is all they need to then monitor/access your devices/activity WITHOUT any warrant.

    Case in point:
    During my personal experience with an obvious invasion, a bright “hacker” acquaintance I’d consulted for help… advised on reviewing my phone, the issues/events I described (which had no monetary or other purpose in hijacking– past my torment), had to be “coming from somewhere high up.”

    But whoever it was (visibly) lurking, soon became adamant I use a VPN. Being suspicious, I refused. Not long after this I got a wrong number (auto-recording) from Mexico.🤨 I don’t know anybody in MX, nor do I communicate with anyone who lives abroad. I’d also received some random ad-texts in Spanish.

    Further, I later discovered my caller-ID was coming up as some Hispanic dude… 9 months after I’d changed my ph#. This was having already tried AGAIN changing my icloud acct info (making att let me use main store pc to do so!)… buying new phone… etc. But each effort failed to alleviate the issue!

    So my point is, when I refused to use a VPN, they found another way to continue accessing– under the guise I was foreign, a/o had foreign communications.

    Also note: “Airplane Mode” is NOT secure. Whoever was able to still access, making it known.

    I could be wrong, but given the lax requirements allowing for… I’m pretty sure all they need is you showing either a foreign IP (VPN), or some communication (call/text) originating from. That’s a problem.

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    • islandpalmtrees says:

      Different rules, different countries – you have to assume that you and your family are always under surveillance. Run encryption in side of encryption, expect performance to be impacted.

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  44. Theckman says:

    I only watched clips of the impeachment hearings, however, Schiff’s behavior is beyond partisan showmanship. Schiff looks truly possessed using that gavel like a crazed person that is beyond rational thinking. The entertainment industry would be having a field day at his expense, ahhh, if only he was not a democrat.
    Schiff appears to be a complete fanatic; the McCarthy hearings comparison should be considered. I found myself laughing when Schiff threatened to “gavel down” Jim Jordan. Unfortunately it’s almost 2020 and I soon realized, the joke is on the American people. How did we let all these bozos take over our country. Clearly Pelosi, Schiff, McConnell, Graham, Comey, Barr are all frontmen for the very few that are running this country.
    It’s so insidious with the players switching sides playing each other to the point they have to keep in constant contact to know what their next move is. I mean I picture McConnell speaking to Pelosi after they hear from the more powerful who has control over them. All these politicians look crazy and don’t make sense half the time. Of course they don’t; they are just doing what they are told. In their spare time they need to drink to chase away any conscious that may remain. It’s a mess. No wonder Trump was at Walter Reed Hospital on Saturday having some health tests done.
    The whole government is corrupt. It’s not about exposing one group. This is about a complete over haul, throwing them all out, life time bureaucrats and those elected. This is why the left has become so radical. They know if this all gets exposed the left have a very legit chance of rebuilding our government from the corrupt ashes it could become. Look at the rational examples the left will have at their disposal. All the corruption with a simple reason it got that way GREED and POWER. Obama is preaching against the far left because he is part of the corruption. If this gets out he’s going down. Does Trump have the power and protection to expose all this, I doubt it. I am grateful he was elected and upset the applecart, but this can’t be cleaned up easily, it’s systemic. Brennan. Clapper, Clintons, McCabe, Rice, Pelosi, Know they are untouchable. Yes they are criminals but, they know too much.
    Pelosi was told to pull the plug on impeachment and literally given a script. It’s disgusting. The democrat operatives are now doing test groups and changing quid pro quo to bribery because the Lawfare operatives believe this sounds more appealing to the public and will give them a better shot at getting the public behind impeaching Trump. You can’t make this stuff up. Not even hiding the fact that the law firm and lawyers behind Mueller Impeachment are now running this impeachment show. They should all go to prison. Anyone involved in this is not an American. They sold out and are beyond redemption.
    It may sound idealistic, I am sure they laugh at how easy it was to steal the country right from under the American people’s noses. Schiff is jamming this down American people’s throats and took to Twitter when he heard the viewers were down some 7 million compared to the Kavanaugh Hearings. Schiff did was he told and begged more of his followers to watch him bang his gavel. Schiff makes my skin crawl, I would bet his mental health assessment would correlate quite closely with Hitler’s.
    To say Trump is dangerous is such propaganda. Just watch the democrats and all the intelligence community that were chased out of their jobs those are the ones that appear unhinged.

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