Phase #2 – With Newly Authorized: “Heard From Others”, Lawfare Group Circles Back To Trump-Kislyak Meeting…

Predictable in the extreme.  Now that the Lawfare Alliance has successfully advanced the new legal authority of claims “heard from others”, they shift into phase #2. Revisit prior claims that now have additional legislative usefulness amid constructed IC leaks.

It’s the transparency trap. Here comes the next demand for HPSCI investigative material:

(Lawfare via Washington Post) President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.

The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.

A memorandum summarizing the meeting was limited to all but a few officials with the highest security clearances in an attempt to keep the president’s comments from being disclosed publicly, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The White House’s classification of records about Trump’s communications with foreign officials is now a central part of the impeachment inquiry launched this week by House Democrats.

An intelligence community whistleblower has alleged that the White House placed a record of Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukraine’s president, in which he offered U.S. assistance investigating his political opponents, into a code-word classified system reserved for the most sensitive intelligence information. (read more)

See where this is going?….

That’s why this happened earlier today:

All of the headline names around the seditious conspiracy against Donald Trump assemble within the network of the Lawfare group.

Not enough people understand the role of the Lawfare group in the corruption and political weaponization of the DOJ, FBI and larger intelligence community.

Three days after the October 21st, 2016, FISA warrant was obtained, Benjamin Wittes outlined the insurance policy approach.

FBI Director James Comey, FBI Legal Counsel James Baker, Comey memo recipient Daniel Richman, Deputy AG Sally Yates, Comey friend Benjamin Wittes, FBI lead agent Peter Strzok, FBI counsel Lisa Page, Mueller lead Andrew Weissmann and the Mueller team of lawyers, all of them -and more- are connected to the Lawfare group; and this network provides the sounding board for all of the weaponized approaches, including the various legal theories as outlined within the Weissmann-Mueller Report.

The Lawfare continuum is very simple.  The corrupt 2015 Clinton exoneration; which became the corrupt 2016 DOJ/FBI Trump investigation; which became the corrupt 2017 DOJ/FBI Mueller probe; is currently the 2019 “impeachment” plan.  Weissmann and Mueller delivering their report evolved the plan from corrupt legal theory into corrupt political targeting by Jerry Nadler in the House Judiciary.  Every phase within the continuum holds the same goal.

The current “impeachment strategy” is planned-out within the Lawfare group.

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311 Responses to Phase #2 – With Newly Authorized: “Heard From Others”, Lawfare Group Circles Back To Trump-Kislyak Meeting…

  1. menolikekoolaid says:

    There’s a God in heaven, and nothing happens that He doesn’t allow. Donald Trump is His man for the presidency at this time in history. And all the powers that may be arrayed against Donald Trump and this country (and make no mistake, the country is under attack) pale before Him and His Son Jesus.
    Pray for the president. Pray for America. Pray for her people. May God heal our land.

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    • Coast says:


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    • Shelley Childs says:

      Heavenly Father, we thank you and praise you for our country. Please thwart the evil plans of men, and expose the evil deeds of men so that they will not escape justice, and rescue from destruction the innocent, the helpless, the unwary, and the unsaved. Protect those facing persecution, blessing and shielding them, and touch the hearts of their persecutors, lifting the veil, so that they will recognize their sin, repent, and trust Jesus Christ as savior.

      Father we pray that you would give us politicians who have clarity, integrity, and passion for what is right. Give them great intelligence to solve problems, but please give them great strength of character, to stay away from anything corrupt or sinful as well.

      Bless all who love us and all whom we love. Bless and protect Donald Trump, Mike Pence, all incoming Cabinet Members and Aides to the President, all lawmakers who uphold Biblical principles, law-keepers in all branches of the military and in all law enforcement agencies and ALL of their families, and work your good and perfect will in their lives this day, so that they will lead spiritually fruitful, spiritually productive lives, and as happy, healthy, and long as you have appointed with your good and perfect will, free from malevolent interference.

      Protect us from a slow agonizing destruction we pray.

      In Jesus’ name, Amen.

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      • Bill says:

        He will not save us if we do not work to save ourselves.

        Liked by 5 people

        • Jedi9 says:

          That is a good point!

          I amat the point that I have moo Russia fatigue! This latest development smells worse than a decomposing road kill left exposed in a Florida hot sun on some obscure highway somewhere. That being said, an interesting analogy came to me moments ago as I tried to search for answers for identifying the true motive behind this farce! I wonder if anybody has every read a Chinese fortune cookie and put the phrase “in bed” at the end of each fortune told when sharing a laugh with intimate ones or family members after enjoying some take out? Well I can’t help but think of putting China at the end of these narratives of whistle blowers, declassified calls etc., as the real reason for the motives behind impeachment. The connection is Wall Street and their exposure to Chinese fraudulent companies operating in our stock markets and their rising acquisition of pension and retirement funds. The same set up with the short game being played betting against the average American has already bilked American retirements and savings to the tune of 14,000,000,000 and is still happening as we speak. Trump knows about this problem and his biggest weapon is to kick out the Chinese from US markets which is seriously being considered by his Advisors should the perfect storm that has been brewing since 2011 present itself. Don’t get me wrong, this is not necessarily what I think is going to happen it’s a thought that is crossing my mind currently due to an overwhelming feeling that something big is about to happen! I believe it’s the global markets that is going to be the bigger issue soon. This is my theory at this time and I think it has a lot of well connected financial people currently freaking out that Trump is going disrupt their gravy train soon especially as the trade issue with China continues unresolved!

          There is a perfect Storm brewing and this charade of impeachment is merely a distraction. The Washington political class are trying their best to sweep this issue under the rug even though there are people trying to warn them about the US’s exposure in financial markets in relation to China is a very serious crisis that is quietly playing out and growing larger by the day the ruling elite are simply are trying to ignore it by creating the cover first before this storm arrives!

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        • Shelley Childs says:

          What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can his faith save him? Faith, if it doesn’t have works, is dead by itself. Foolish man! Are you willing to learn that faith without works is useless? Wasn’t Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? You see that faith was active together with his works, and by works, faith was perfected. So the Scripture was fulfilled that says, Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him for righteousness, and he was called God’s friend. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

          – James 2


    • Contrarymary says:

      What’s interesting is how many of these people are taking a break for the holidays which includes a day of repentance before GOD. Wonder how many of them take it seriously and actually do any soul searching. From all their lying, manipulating, conniving, etc, don’t really see much of that going on with the likes of Nadler, shiff, cicilline, wittes and most of their lawfare group.

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  2. Bogeyfree says:


    If there is an impeachment trial in the Senate, who represents and questions any witness for PT?

    Is it AG Barr or WH Council?

    Does it speak to this in the Constitution?

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    • Wethal says:

      No. It wouldn’t be Barr. It would be whatever attorney Trump chose. IIRC Clinton was represented by private lawyers he chose. The attorney would have to be a good trial lawyer, and WH Counsel might not have that experience.

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    • evergreen says:

      Does it matter?


      • Wethal says:

        Oh, yes. A good trial lawyer can shred a witness like coleslaw and leave credibility in tatters. I expect the Dems will have one of the old DOJ lawyers hired by Pelosi that Sundance has mentioned as their lawyer. They will likely run the proceedings (If the GOP could have an experienced sex crime prosecutor question CBF, then the House can have a non-Member do their evidence). I expect the GOP and Trump will hire some high class talent, too.

        The whistleblower will eventually have to come forth, even if to testify in closed session. He would have to give enough personal background to establish some basic job experience and how he came to be in contact with his informers. This would likely be enough to ID him. (After all, Halper was eventually outed.) Sundance has already suggested Michael Barry as the whistleblower.

        And since the whistleblower’s complaint was partly rejected because of his political bias, he is going to have to overcome this weakness in his credibility, along with the problems with the factual inaccuracies. The inaccuracies bring into question the informers’ knowledge, as well as their political biases. “How do you know what these people told you is true? Are they in a position to know?” If he answers those questions, he’s may out his informers/leakers.

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        • Redzone says:

          How can hearsay be inadmissible in every court in the country, but be admissible in a U.S. Senate trial to remove a sitting President?

          Liked by 5 people

          • LW says:

            Great question. I was wondering the same thing.


          • bodieisland says:

            Redzone, this tidbit has just been outed. I knew a day ago with a little sleuthing who it was. The 1st IG stated the whistleblower (report) was “credible and urgent” Who said that, if it was 2nd hand info? Michael Atkinson. MA escaped from the Ohr floor to the new IG last summer. He was appt by POTUS….HUH??? sworn in by Coats right B4 he was fired. Now it appears MA made up new rules that ANYONE can file a whistleblower complaint with ANY RUMOR! Lawfare’s “insurance policy” at work.

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        • gsonFIT says:

          If we get this far down the impeachment road then everything is coming out. Strzok’s European itinerary and extramarital sex life. Brennan politics and religion. Certainly Hunter Biden’s abandoned rental car with 2 i.d.s left behind from different government agencies and a bag of cocaine. They may even call Corn Pop to testify

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        • MustangBlues says:

          All the communist cultist democrats are whistle blowers, always whistling in the dark, and blowing somebody. Useless tools, miseducated fools, the first to lie, the first to cry, mama’s boys, hiding under mama’s skirts. Inmates awaiting the gulag.


        • jd says:

          The Blower has to answer questions like: “Who told you”. When it gets down to it, we may find that it only an Agent working with Clinton attorneys making up something that can make a fuss with. Or, there might not be anyone there other than lawyers concocting stories.


      • Sidney Powell and Joseph diGenova would seem to think so… both would be excellent choices for representation, btw.

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    • CarolynH says:

      John Roberts sits in on the Senate trial.


    • Niagara Frontier says:

      The Constitution gives both the House and Senate the right to make their own rules governing their procedures on impeachment, and the right to change those rules. Here are the Senate rules:


      • ChampagneReady says:

        It would be ecstacy to have a trial in the senate because the beatdown would be so bad under the rules of evidence in a trial, that it would be written about forever in the annals of history as one of the worst mistakes ever made by any party.

        But you will never see a trial in the senate because the senate will call it ludicrous and dead on arrival. In the constitution, there is no requirement that the senate hold a trial, they can reject it out of hand. And as useless as McConnell usually is, this is what he’ll do. It will just be a vote that majority rules there will be no trial.

        And Trump’s approval will shoot up 15 points over night if they’re stupid enough to even vote Articles out of the House. The only thing dumber would be to recruit Clinton to run again in 2020.


    • Addison Gooding says:

      If there is an impeachment trial in the senate. the swamp creatures are going to push for a secret ballot. People, we are close to the point where the second amendment is our only liberty preserving option.


  3. spoogels says:

    And The Ukraine Whistleblower Is … Oliver Stone

    “We already know that the individual is being represented by Andrew Bakaj of Compass Rose Legal Group. Bakaj has worked for some of Washington’s most powerful Democratic Party politicians, including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton, and the late Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, as well as for the State Department — in, what do you know, the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine.

    Interestingly, the bio of the whistleblower’s co-counsel, Mark Zaid, boasts that “He currently possesses TS/SCI eligibility and has had Q level access” — the very highest level of Top Secret clearance. That not only indicates legal expertise in dealing with espionage matters; it means he’s got plenty of friends within the intelligence agencies and the congressional intel committees, and no doubt at the State Department and the Pentagon as well.

    When the whistleblower relates that “Over the past four months, more than half a dozen U.S. officials have informed me of various facts related to” the communications between Trump and his attorney Rudy Giuliani with Ukrainian officials, was it really “me,” or his or her legal representatives utilizing their Rolodex?”

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  4. spoogels says:

    Is Hillary Gearing Up For Late-Stage Do-Over Against “Corrupt Human Tornado” Trump?


  5. Kaco says:

    WSB mentioned the other night that he/she heard the person from the State Dept who asked Rudy to meet with the Ukraine person was part of the soft coup. Well, Kurt Volker resigned as Ukraine ambassador today, which also doesn’t look good either. They’ll say it makes POTUS guilty. If he was true, he should have stood his ground. I also see he worked for the McCain Institute in Arizona.

    Just looked at his Twitter, nothing about his resignation. But as an O/T, here is their new this year class of National Security & Counterterrorism fellows for the 2019-2020 academic year. So now the McCain Institute is training future FBI/CIA agents it seems. And looking through the list, only 2 of the 11 are men.

    And here’s his last tweet, nothing about his resignation.

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    • Kaco says:

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      • WSB says:

        Kaco, thank you for the follow up today. Much appreciate the shout out.

        There is so much here, it hurts.

        I have always had a suspicion that the McCain Institute is responsible for so many criminal things. I posted a few years back that there were a lot of Eastern European girls, kids, being supported to take summer field trips through US Senators’ offices to ‘learn abput American Democracy’. Always wondered why these were not our own domestic kids.

        Then the website was overhauled and these postings deleted. Really weird. The Volker relationship stinks as well.

        I no longer have the time for research, so many thanks for the follow up!

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        • Kaco says:

          Hey, WSB, what you said bugged me but then Rudy finally discolosed on Ingraham’s show and showed his phone stating from Volker asking him to meet with the Ukrainian guy. Then I heard today about his resignation.

          That is really creepy, and potentially sad, about what you said about them importing the girls. Aside from the suspicions, why only girls?

          I had saved a few bookmarks before the election about the McCain Institute, here’s one:

          I have a whole bookmark folder I created just for McCain started during the
          16 election. In fact, my whole politics section was started then!. Just looking through again, that man was so corrupt. He was on a Ukraine advisory board to help Ukraine in “reforms”, in ’14, His institute was funded by Soros. It also took money from Saudi Arabia, the prior regime. I believe it was his aide that retrieved the Steele Dossier. And now we see Volker was the ambassador to Ukraine?

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          • Kaco says:

            I should say, most of my bookmarks were saved from postings here from people like you! You’ve all been a wealth of information and I have saved quite a bit, try to keep it separated and organized, sometimes it’s hard to find things when there’s so many in one folder, you only remember the last few. The “FBI” folder is a mile long.

            I haven’t visited the McCain folder in quite a while, but anyone tied to that man, has got to be knee deep in it. And POTUS despised McCain, knew who he was, I think one of the biggest pitfalls of this administration is trying to find decent staff that will be approved by the swamp.

            I keep imagining there are trade-offs behind the scenes for everything, like trying to get his trade deals through. I do remember Bannon (still sore about Alabama), saying during transition, they realized the pool of experienced people was very small, they had to basically start in the swamp.

            Honestly, I have wondered even, how good these judges are that POTUS is appointing and how they are vetted. Judges are the only thing McConnell praises about POTUS but most of Congress are so corrupt, why do they want conservative judges that will rule against dirty dealings? Things that make you go hmm.

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            • WSB says:

              So true, Kaco! Mitch may be rubber stamping Heritage Foundation tools who will just be blackmailed like Roberts, IMHO.

              However, we must keep up the fight and continue to uncover all of this!


              • Kaco says:

                I thought Heritage Foundation was a pretty okay organization. I have not the time or energy to begin to look into the judges. I’m just hopeful for the best,, that it might be the one thing done right by the RINOs at least. But it has made me wonder considering, and with that, I’ve wondered if anyone here’s kept up with the appointments.

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          • WSB says:

            As I remember there were also young boys on one trip…so hard to remember. Posted a few photos I think.

            Such corruption.

            Not sure if Rudy is on to Volker or not, however there is a reason Volker up and quit. TY for your post!


          • Julian says:

            Volker is a Trump mam though.

            Appointed in 2017 with no Senate approval required. Trump could have appointed anyone that role and handpicked Volker.

            Volker was appointed in 2017 to help resolve the war against Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine’s east. He also directs the McCain Institute, a think tank on Arizona State’s campus.


          • WSB says:

            PS Kaco…I wonder if Volker resigned so he could not be interviewed by any IG? I hope Durham taps on his door.


      • Contrarymary says:

        Wasn’t it reported, at one time, that soros was giving money to the McCain institute?


    • Drogers says:

      It was FOX news (?) said he resigned because he got a case of the a$$ over PDJT using Rudy Giuliani as the go between w/ Ukraine.

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  6. JoeMeek says:

    I have heard from others, numerous others, that it was the CIA, not Oswald, who murdered JFK.

    Liked by 3 people

    • Coast says:

      You need to fill out the new whistle-blower form. Make sure it’s the new one.

      Liked by 14 people

      • Grassleysgirl/Breitbartista says:

        And be sure to push #1 for hearsay
        #2 for embellishments
        #3 for Fabrications
        #4 blatant lies
        And if assistance is required press $ for Lawfare.

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    • Raghn Crow says:

      It was a KGB operation. (Notice how John Paul II’s attempted assassination so closely parallels it.) Supposedly, had the CIA info on the upcoming attempt, they could have kept quiet about it and let it go forward.

      “Jack” Kennedy had a plethora of faults, and a bad character (do to his awful father, old Joe Kennedy), but Jack was at least a true Cold Warrior. And he wouldn’t vote to sanction his friend Joe McCarthy. For Jack, loyalty was paramount, and he detested the “military industrial” (and spy) complex that made him look a fool over the Bay of Pigs. We’ll never know the truth (in this life) but from what we’ve seen since, it is easy to believe the worst of our “gubmint”.


    • Troublemaker10 says:

      Giuliani should file whistleblower form on this. 😁


      • The Deplorable Tina says:

        Wouldn’t it be awesome if *every* Trump supporter filled out one of the new whistleblower forms with the info we hear from Hannity & John Solomon & Tom Fitton etc.? Wonder what would happen 😊

        Liked by 6 people

        • WSB says:

          GREAT IDEA!!!! We only need one person from every abc agency. I am sure we can find one…maybe?

          Liked by 1 person

          • gsonFIT says:

            Where is the IG for the taxpayers? Taxpayers as in you and me WSB

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          • The Deplorable Tina says:

            Do you have to work for the govt to be a whistleblower? Seems to me if they changed the rules to “hearsay”, we can change the rules to “taxpayer”? Submit emails or letters to Congress with “I am a taxpayer & a whistleblower – you work for me” then layout the whole Hannity spiel. Would be hilarious if they ended up with a million or two of the letters. Maybe THEN they would listen?

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            • WSB says:

              Tina, I wish…I am tending to think this civil war may go hot…IMHO.

              I will definitely show in DC for a siege, though!

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              • highcarry says:

                Too late. I used to think that all the people on line saying they would fight to take it back were serious. I no longer think that. How far do they have to be pushed? When is the limit? We’ve allowed the left to go too far. There is no stopping it. I have heard so many times that conservatives won’t take to the streets because they’re being responsible and going to work. What a crock. A revolution requires one thing. Sacrifice, And no one is willing to go that far. If they were it would have already happened. I don’t take any joy in saying these things, but I believe they are true. I’ve simply lost faith that anybody is willing to fight for our freedom.


      • glissmeister says:

        The rules on whistleblowing have changed!

        Anybody heard rumors about Schiff and Ed Buck? Surely there’s a parody or two that could be read into the Congressional Record.


  7. Troublemaker10 says:

    One of the early things Trump did after taking office was to try to repair the relationship with Russia and to try to get them back towards the alignment with the West instead of China. This is extremely important from a geo-political perspective. Trump wasn’t interested in further punishing Russia because the goal was larger than that . So he may have, indeed, said things to Russia to put them at ease. He’s a deal maker, not a politician, after all .

    This was before the Mueller investigation re Russia interference was completed.

    However, what interference did Russia do? The groups Mueller indicted for ads, etc were determined NOT to be connected to the Russian government according to the court. Right?

    Hacking dnc computer? Perhaps. But I don’t trust the FBI just taking the word of a Democrat connected organization (crowdstrike). And, we found out from Roger Stone discovery requests…..that’s all the FBI had was some draft report by Crowdstrike. WikiLeaks said it wasn’t Russia that gave them emails.

    So, imo, Trump was right to try to move past this with Russia. Regardless of what Trump said, doesn’t mean he trusted Russia. In business, you can be very friendly on the outside while trying to out-manuever, outsmart, or manipulate a business opponent to get what you want from them .

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    • Troublemaker10 says:

      ….in politics it only is about appearance and political correctness. In business it is about results . Trump has a business mind.

      Liked by 7 people

    • Pale rider says:

      I factor in that Russia is not about globalist agenda, they very much opposed globalists ideas. IMO the only ‘collusion’ is Russia and President Trump against the globalists.

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    • jeans2nd says:

      Good point. Not to mention, the Pres is under no obligation to tell the truth to Russia, or any other country, not to mention Fake News, for that matter.
      Who wouldn’t lie to a Russian ambassador, or Fake News, who was out to do you harm?


    • gsonFIT says:

      You are right on. Military Industrial Complex was scared candidate Trump was going to obsolete NATO with an ultimate goal of ending wars in favor of dialogue. Brennan was a communist, muslim buthhurt over the travel ban and here we are.

      When and if PDJT made these Russian interference comments to Kislyak he was prepared to let election bygones be bygones. He is going to be scorched earth now.


  8. TEWS_Pilot says:

    Since “hearsay” or 2nd and 3rd party evidence is not allowed in U.S. courts, and since the Senate acts as the jury and the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS acts as Judge for impeachment, could they toss out all such evidence being gathered by the “expanded” Whistle Blower rules?


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  9. Lordhawhaw says:

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  10. WIVoter says:

    I heard a guest recently, I believe, on the Lou Dobbs show, in the last few days, say that the difference between a whistleblower, a leaker and a traitor is motive. We have so many traitors in the midst of our nation that it feels like a chapter out of the bible where the Pharisees plotted to have Jesus killed. No, I am NOT comparing Donald Trump to Jesus Christ but I am comparing the spirit of the Pharisees to the spirit of the deep state. Their father is the devil and they will have Hell to pay for their wicked deeds.

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  11. JoeMeek says:

    Can anyone here come up with a way to get the CIA and FBI to go to war against each other, the more viscous the better? Maybe send some letters to the FBI calling them mother-you-know-whaters and put CIA agents return addresses on them. And send send some other letters to the CIA calling them mother-you-know-whaters and put FBI agents return addresses on them. . Wouldn’t it be a God send to America if they destroyed each other?

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  12. Thankful for Americans Outside of DPRK says:

    I think we need be ready for an unthinkable answer to the question “when will they stop?”

    Answer: they won’t

    What were these people doing all over the world under Obama? (Arab Spring, Ukraine, tamping down the Iranian Green Revolution)

    Meaning: No one gets the power of governance unless approved by Lawfare Alliance, CGI, UniParty et. al.

    Soros has said the main obstacle to the world he envisions is the United States.

    Think about all of the different tools used by these traitors under our colors to topple and replace governments around the world.

    No one can deny, now, that the end goal is to topple this President and our make our election irrelevant.

    The only question is will they topple the country to do it (see Soros above for my answer) what tactics will they hold short of employing (if any)

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    • WIVoter says:

      There are no tactics they won’t use. They are sons and daughters of the devil and only God and his Son Jesus Christ can and have defeated their father. The question is what is the Lord telling us to do in this wicked hour? All of the powers that be in the United States don’t believe in God and think they are invincible. These are the times that try men’s sous. I think reading Patrick Henry’s Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death speech seems to be in order.
      If these wicked foes are not defeated they will kill all of us and we know it. They hate us with a passion of a thousand suns.

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    • Zy says:

      If the CIA wants to run a covert operation against someone then Soros is their man.


  13. fred5678 says:

    New sources for information of concern when submitting Whistleblower form:

    1. Overheard at the water cooler.

    2. My daughter brought a note home from kindergarten.

    3. Found it on my car windshield in The Company (CIA) parking lot.

    4. I saw it on History Channel’s “Ancient Aliens.”

    5. My Scrabble partner scored a 58 with this message..

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  14. MARK G RYAN says:

    Adam Schiff’s activity with this “whistle blower” presentation is the lowest hang fruit I have ever seen. If republicans do not have him recused for ethics violations by next Friday, then they are complicit. Democrats tied up Nunes for a year with virtually nothing. But I personally do not expect any big volleys from the administration against any of the offenders until just before the primaries. They will be timed such that Trump will virtually pick his opponent for the 2020 election. Maybe that is why Trump has not commented on any of Hillary’s recent clamorings.


  15. jason r says:

    read the twitter feed of Stephen McIntyre

    changed WB pdf is only two days old

    Here is something seriously strange. The Disclosure of Urgent Concern Form located earlier today at DNI is only two days old according to its pdf properties.

    time to FOI documentation of form revision. To be precise, it’s possible, even likely, that form was not “revised” as no evidence of previous form. The footer “Revised” might be camouflage.


    4/ Under WB law “WB” wasn’t allowed to contact Congress directly unless his complaint had either been found not credible or not forwarded to DNI.

    Neither of those criteria were fulfilled. “WB” wasn’t allowed to contact Congress.

    So why was WB complaint addressed to Schiff?

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  16. Cathy M. says:

    Why is the Dog whistleblower hiding, the coward. He’s obviously a dem, i.e. he won’t be held accountable.

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  17. Jase says:

    I see that the latest Fusion production run by the MSM mentions phone calls the President had with Russia and Saudi Arabia: next stop for the Dems will be to demand transcripts of ALL presidential conversations.
    I was fairly sanguine about this sham a few days ago, but I admit I’m worried a little more now, partly because they have clearly had a spy operation in the White House for some months, but mostly because Republicans always seem so woefully unprepared and caught by surprise.
    Surely they know that the Dems are ruthless scum for whom no low is ever too low?
    They want to get impeachment done and dusted by end of October: are they trying to rush Barr and Durham into hasty action?

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  18. Speaking Truth to Groupthink says:

    Under the new classification of whistleblower, couldn’t any “reporter” with a direct source now be fashioned into a whistleblower?

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  19. loteal2014 says:

    Here is my opinion… Obama and his team were recording everything going on. The have weaponized the White House to make trump turn on his own people. Again, it’s suggesting Trumps own people turned on him. It is psychological warfare. They have the house, phones, etc bugged. That’s my opinion.


    • WSB says:

      I wonder what the Trump Hotels’ security cameras showed when democrats were staying at any of those properties when they thought Donald Trump was a democrat?



  20. neev1031 says:

    Question: During the McGuire testimony, did any lawmaker or the DNI ever say that ‘hearsay’ evidence was acceptable given the new ICIG developed whistleblower form? If not, why not?

    Answer: They did not know such a form revision had been implemented. It maybe that the ICIG can make such changes without any oversight but that is doubtful. Congress would not like changes to something like this without their knowledge. I mean, the ICIG could go the other way & make five independent witness as the minimum rule.

    My guess is that the ICIG did this as CYA & maybe that is where the weakness lies in this plot

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    • BitterC says:

      Pretty sure no one brought up the hearsay exception to the urgent concern procedure.

      The Repub Congressmen were woefully unprepared for that hearing, but they didn’t have the advantage of having the complaint since 8/12 like the Dems on the commiitttee did.

      Nunes was a huge disappointment with his closing remarks. He mumbled a few words and yielded. Schiff presented a closing argument.

      It makes me very uncomfortable that so many GOP Congressmen preface their comments on Ukrainegate with “the president shouldn’t have said that”, instead of the fact Trump was asking Zelensky for assistance in an ongoing criminal investigation. Not sure if they really believe that or the Uniparty is closing ranks vs Trump because they fear what Barr has unconvered

      Everyone goes right to the Biden part of convo and don’t mention and hammer home the fact the favor he asked for was Ukraine co-operation with our DOJ’s ongoing investigation into the genesis of the Russian hoax. Even the Fox folks that support the president did a lousy job after the hearing,


  21. oldersoul says:

    Without going into too much analysis, my bigger concern at this point is how some may attempt to leverage all of this into a short-term fund raising bonanza.

    Elements in the Political Fund-Raising Industrial Complex may overdramatize the immediate situation to extract maximum contributions over the next week or so. In a couple weeks, there will be some new manufactured outrage to re-hype the public’s attention, and cajole their wallets. Just like there was last week. And the week before that. And the month before that. Because first and foremost, it’s always about the money in politics. Keeping a long view helps. We are still a full year out from the big event.

    I just don’t see a terminal impeachment path as politically or legally feasible at this juncture. Not that they may not try. They now know they cannot beat PDJT electorally. The globalist multinationals group and their Uniparty employees have very few cards left to play. Sundance does a terrific job in drilling down into the attack strategy and participants in their lawfare group. Thanks for doing the hard work.

    But I don’t see these current schemes maintaining the level of popular traction that the Russian hoax did, precisely because of the Russian hoax. PDJT survived their best shot. They missed. Now PDJT is politically stronger — and politically smarter — than ever. Too strong to depose without destroying all the participants along with him. Cowardice is a wonderful deterrent. Or MAD if you are old enough.

    Because too many truck drivers and soccer moms have now seen this movie before. Now they see it as mere partisan politics. I still believe in American common sense. Public rejection of the MSM is at an all time high. The Russia hoax helped with that, too. Main Street is coming back, “We’re Hiring” signs are everywhere, and they don’t want that stolen from them by Beltway elites working a petty scam.

    It remains discouraging that the sedition plotters may remain on the run for a while longer. And that they will continue to concoct these sedition schemes. But I am buoyed by the fact that their ability to seriously harm our President has been substantially neutralized. And by their own failure. Justice can catch up with them after 2020, because I believe PDJT will still be there after 2020 to administer it.

    PDJT seems to remain focused on the bigger substantive picture: reconfiguring the entire global economic trade system, addressing the Chinese geopolitical threat, border protection, establishing American energy dominance, re-energizing the American industrial economy with brilliant regulatory and tax policy; and restocking a large section of the federal judiciary, to cement that legacy for decades to come. So should we. I’ll bet you large swaths of America are doing the same. The results are obvious to everyone.

    In the meantime, we keep fighting for him, as he fights for us.

    The next failsafe point is the upcoming China negotiations. So we will see.


    • WSB says:

      Well, PT raised about $5M in about 24 hours…so there is that.


      • oldersoul says:

        Hopefully, he gets it all. That is often not the case.

        Many of these fundraising solicitations are split assignments, with the GOP state or national orgs. getting a cut.

        And we all know what they squander it on. Their circle of ‘consultants’ (i.e., cronies and friends) that do little or nothing but get rich. Many are never-trumpers. It’s a cottage industry in that town.

        I refuse to give one penny to support the RINO Circle of Friends, directly or indirectly.

        And I must get 20 solicitations a day from these bums. More during weeks like this.

        That is why I mentioned it. They are capitalizing off of PDJT being attacked, and they want him gone, too. Many fall for it.

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  22. Speaking Truth to Groupthink says:

    With Schiff and Hillary in the spotlight, it’s interesting how epstein died and Ed buck was arrested. (Predeceased)


  23. Tiffthis says:

    This is getting to be a sick joke. These people are the worst

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  24. neev1031 says:

    Sundance – wouldn’t PDJT need approval from other foreign leaders or delegations he met with, before he can declassify conversations with them? I do not mean a legal requirement, rather a diplomatic one. What if Kisliyak asks PDJT not to declassify & release? Or Putin? Or Merkel? … Most will probably insist on confidentiality, especially after the Ukraine spectacle. Does congress have the power to override that?


    • BitterC says:

      They got Nixon’s tapes but I don’t remember if they had a probable cause kind of reason.
      I suppose if they tried to make these alleged remarks to the Russians an article of impeachment…..

      I don’t think it’s a big deal if he DID say the Russian meddling didn’t bother him. It’s all part of diplomacy.

      McMaster has already publicly denied it,

      As far as I am aware, the bit about him sharing “classified info” with the Russians in the Oval is nothing more than a rumor. Has that ever been acknowledged or verified on the record? There weren’t many people in that room


      • jx says:

        What Russian interference? The interference Crowdstrike alleged?


      • In the case of both Nixon and both Clintons, textbook cases of illegal acts existed, according to law as interpreted every day by the Courts.

        With Trump, none.

        Yes, the Oval Office story is rumor, but rumor is what the Democrats have been reduced to now. “If you said it happened, it must be true! Let’s impeach!!”


  25. Another Scott says:

    From the article, “President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries”. This is being spun as treasonous but wasn’t he just being honest?

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  26. striket1977 says:

    It’s getting bad out here. I have never seen a time in my life where there is such a disconnect between the 2 parties. This really is a scary time in our history but I firmly believe we are on the right side. The Dems are circling the wagon whereas the Republicans are where they usually are. With the Rinos casting doubt and the true Rep. Patriots calling it for what it is, a circus. The Republicans need to get dirty. It’s time to flip the script and go after them. I hope Giulani did some good digging and has enought fire power to throw this back at them. Right now, this looks like a Tyson fight in his prime with the republicans being his opponent. The sad thing is, we all see this for the lie that it is. I just wish I had more hope.


  27. ChampagneReady says:

    This is getting so old it’s like watching reruns of As the World Turns.


  28. Jenevive says:

    Response when they go after Kiyslak repubs need to start
    asking if this guy is such a big spy for Russia why did the Dems
    invite him to sit with them during on of POTUS SOTU addresses


  29. coolmamie says:

    I am sad to say I think it is over for Trump, and if so, he has no one to blame but himself. He should go on offense. Require every sitting member of congress to be investigated for income from China and Russia, including spouses, adult children, parents and siblings. Assess influence from these countries on our elected officials.


  30. One thread which continues to appear in all of these Lawfare-initiated stories shows up here again: “the President is a loose cannon, so valiant efforts by underlings who Nobly Refuse to do his bidding, or who Nobly Cover-Up what a loose cannon he is, is the only thing that saves our Nation from him.”

    These stories continue to be proffered to support grave wrongdoing… or at least, intent… on the part of a man who hasn’t fallen for a single one of their endless provocations.

    Now, they’re simply making up lies, and trying to change the rules to conceal the liars. The moths are spinning ever closer to the candle flame. Nothing can stop them from flying into it now.


  31. Artist says:

    speaking of “ heard from others”….
    This is the SAME form the “whistleblower” used against President Trump. It used to be that you needed evidence, no more! Check it out, now you can say, anonymously, other people’s words!!!!!!

    fight back if ……fill out the ICIG WHISTLEBLOWER FORM that now allows you to say you heard it from someone else, no evidence needed… the guy cheats on his taxes, conspired with a terrorist, gave info to a foreign govt, hangs around playgrounds….make up your own hoax!!!!!
    ICIG Whistleblower form


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