Trey Gowdy Discusses Upcoming Fiasco of Mueller Testimony – “Corn Kernel Questioning”…

The smartest man in the world once explained a metaphor apropos to this moment in time when Robert Mueller will testify before congress.  It goes like this:

In front of you sits an ear of corn. You are trying to prove it’s an ear of corn to a room of corn cob deniers. Instead of trying to prove the true nature of what it is, focus your laser inquiry on one specific kernel and hit that single kernel with laser intensity. When that single kernel pops, you will have proved it’s an ear of corn.

In a rare moment CTH agrees with Trey Gowdy, as he discusses the upcoming Mueller testimony:

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Back to the corn cob metaphor.  Here’s how to make a single Mueller kernel pop.

QUESTIONS:

♦ When exactly did Rod Rosenstein first contact you about becoming special counsel?
♦ Did you immediately agree to become special counsel when asked?
♦ How much time transpired between Rosenstein asking you to become special counsel and your acceptance of the position?
♦ When exactly did Rod Rosenstein contact you about going to the White House on May 16th, 2017?
♦ Were you aware of the possibility of being appointed ‘special counsel’, prior to May 16th, 2017?
♦ On May 16, 2017, when you traveled to the White House, were you applying to become FBI Director?
♦ Other than Rod Rosenstein, did you speak to any members of the DOJ or FBI prior to going to the White House on May 16th, 2017?
♦ Were you aware President Trump was under investigation prior to your conversation of May 16th, with President Trump?
♦ Were you aware of the nature of the Trump investigation, prior to May 16, 2017?
♦ Did you take any recording devices into the Oval Office meeting?
♦ Did you own the cell phone you left in the Oval Office on May 16, 2017?
♦ Between the afternoon Oval Office meeting (4:00pm) and the next day announcement to the Gang-of-Eight by Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe (after lunch), when exactly did you agree to become special counsel?
♦ Accepting you were without “your cell phone”, how did Rod Rosenstein contact you between the evening of May 16, 2017 and the morning of May 17, 2017, about becoming special counsel?

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[Backstory for This Line of Questioning]

There was less than 24 hours between the time Mueller and Rosenstein were in the Oval Office (4pm, May 16th), and the time Rosenstein told the Gang-of-Eight that Mueller was appointed Special Counsel (May 17th).

Occam’s Razor – A former FBI Director… meeting with the president of the United States… in the oval office…. in the middle of one of the more consequential time-periods in history… immediately after the firing of the former FBI Director… with family and a network of friends curious as to the outcome…. who is also communicating with the Deputy Attorney General… doesn’t *accidentally* leave his cell phone in the Oval Office.

I’ll bet you a dozen donuts the entire purpose of the Oval Office meeting with Mueller was part of the FBI investigation…. and Mueller’s cell phone wasn’t actually Mueller’s cell phone… it was an FBI phone set up so that McCabe’s investigators could listen to the conversation with the target of the investigation, President Trump.

…. but that’s another kernel.

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241 Responses to Trey Gowdy Discusses Upcoming Fiasco of Mueller Testimony – “Corn Kernel Questioning”…

  1. MDNA I says:

    “In front of you sits an ear of corn. You are trying to prove it’s an ear of corn to a room of corn cob deniers. Instead of trying to prove the true nature of what it is, focus your laser inquiry on one specific kernel and hit that single kernel with laser intensity. When that single kernel pops, you will have proved it’s an ear of corn.”

    I love philosophical jokes & jokes that make a philosophical point.

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    • MDNA I says:

      A “Free Speech Joke” from the German Democratic Republic under Communism

      “A German worker gets a job in Siberia; aware of how all mail will be read by censors, he tells his friends: ‘Let’s establish a code: if a letter you will get from me is written in ordinary blue ink, it is true; if it is written in red ink, it is false.’

      “After a month, his friends get the first letter, written in blue ink: ‘Everything is wonderful here: stores are full, food is abundant, apartments are large and properly heated, movie theaters show films from the West, there are many beautiful girls ready for an affair—the only thing unavailable is red ink.’”

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    • 335blues says:

      Ask Mueller when he knew about all of obama’s listening bugs
      left in the oval office.

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    • “Here’s how to make a single Mueller kernel pop.”

      IF the republican members really want answers they should ALL yield their time to ONE (or a tag-team of two) member(s) who knows how to aim that laser and not blather on in self indulgent soliloquy.

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  2. WSB says:

    OK. My favorite question, Sundance!

    I knew you would come up with the best kernal of exposure!!!

    “Accepting you were without “your cell phone”, how did Rod Rosenstein contact you between the evening of May 16, 2017 and the morning of May 17, 2017, about becoming special counsel?”

    🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿

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  3. freepetta says:

    Wonderful report. 💁🏻‍♀️

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  4. justlizzyp says:

    I’ve never understood why anyone is allowed to bring cell phones into a meeting with the President. But I guess that’s because I have respect for the Office of the Presidency and would consider a meeting with him to be the most important thing going on at that time. The rest of the world can wait or find someone else for that brief period.

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    • WSB says:

      I just don’t think Bob wanted a Presidential selfie, either.

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    • MaineCoon says:

      I don’t understand why all loose items (like cells, razors, rope, batons, recording devices, stuff like that) are allowed inside the Oval Office. Nothing of that nature should ever be allowed in the Oval Office. These swampsters aren’t to be trusted.

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    • jbowen82 says:

      I wouldn’t put too much weight on the cell phone story for that reason. Occam’s Razor is that the White House has normal security precautions and you have to check your phone and then pick it up when you leave the secure area. If Mueller really did leave his phone, it was because he forgot to retrieve it from the security checkpoint, not because he left it in the Oval Office on “record.”

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      • MelH says:

        Is the “security check point” where his phone was found? My understanding has been that it was actually in the Oval office.

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        • jbowen82 says:

          We actually have ZERO facts on whether this story is even true. ZERO. There’s nothing to understand. Be from Missouri on any rumor that gets repeated that you really want to be true.

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          • MelH says:

            There’s been so much discussion about the phone being left behind in the Oval office, it didn’t seem like something one person dreamed up.

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            • jbowen82 says:

              All of that discussion and no facts, so it must be true anyway? There’s been a lot of discussion about collusion with the Russians. Does that make it true? I’ll believe there was a cell phone left in the Oval when PDT tweets something like, “Why did Mueller leave his cell phone in my office?” The President has actually said nothing about the meeting that contradicts the official version that Mueller was trying to get hired. Maybe the President’s holding back because it’s all part of the Durham review and he doesn’t want to compromise grand jury material. Or just maybe, if there’s any grain of truth to the story, it’s that Mueller left his phone at security, and it’s been blown way out of proportion. We should know not to believe a story is true just because we really, really want it to be true. Insist on facts.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      IIRC the SEP 2018 Article in NYT about RR wearing a wire and invoking the 25th Amendment
      Rosenstein is alleged to have said it would be easy to record POTUS because the WH doesn’t require him even to check in his cell phone.

      I can no longer access the article and yes I know it’s the NYT which isn’t the point.
      This article was clearly a leak by McCabe who is also the source of the “left behind cell phone” story (his book).

      It’s very possible Mueller got in there with A cell phone.

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    • CaptDMO says:

      If The President of the United States has a question, and you don’t have an immediate answer, you’d BETTER know who does, have their number, and KNOW they’re “on call”.
      Leave a (I ASSUME) “smart” phone behind, like a lap top in a taxi, in Washingon DC? Well. sure, we all make mistakes.
      Oh by the way, you’re fired. You have NO further connection to ANY of THIS administration, ALL security clearance is immediately terminated, and here’s the envelope with the grinder dust from your “old” phone.

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  5. AH_C, Boofer says:

    Load up on popcorn, folks!

    Liked by 2 people

  6. Betty says:

    I am so sick of this shit.

    Liked by 33 people

  7. GSparrow says:

    Those are great questions. I hope the Freedom Caucus reads this article and all of them are asked.

    Not likely to get any straight forward answers in the 5 minute segments from Mueller however. “Classified, can’t recall….”,

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  8. 🍺Gunny66 says:

    The thing about making popcorn is: It always seems we get a little impatient for it to start popping.

    Then we hear that “First Pop”…..you always hear that”First Pop”

    Then it starts….another pop….Then another…..Then a great hole bunch….

    Then you start shaking / moving the popping pan……Then the smell….

    The smell of fresh popcorn……never gets old……

    Soon it will be popcorn time……Everything has been built on lies……

    Then the fun begins……

    Popcorn……get your popcorn here

    “My ex-wife divorced me and drove me to drinking”
    “But I never had the decency to Thank her”

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  9. Gregory Sherman says:

    Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like there will be time for many questions from Republicans, so one of the Republicans should put on a Groucho face and simply ask Mueller if he is an honest man. If he says he is, you know you are dealing with a crook.

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  10. glissmeister says:

    “Accepting you were without “your cell phone”, how did Rod Rosenstein contact you between the evening of May 16, 2017 and the morning of May 17, 2017, about becoming special counsel?”

    My my my. Herein lies the biggest laser pop of all.

    How, indeed.

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    • DJ says:

      The thing is, that question is easily answered…

      “It was my work phone that was left behind. My buddy Rod has my personal cell phone number and he called me on that.”

      I mean look, even Stzok and Page had both work and personal phones.

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    • mj_inOC says:

      He had a another personal cell, or called his wife’s…

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      • glissmeister says:

        Yep. All good points. See how it opens up? And what does Trump know about the phone that we do not?

        All leading to more questions that run from the professional to the personal involving prospective insider dealing, corrupted personal relationships and pernicious networks worthy of deeper digging to expose more information about personal agendas and “private” agendas operating on the other side of the professional boundary of polite service and the workplace firewall.

        Was the abandoned phone just an accident? It anchors a fact pattern, whatever it turns out to be. And what an odd nexus of intersections that might be found if not “just an accident.”

        This is looking like one of those species of weird fact that won’t go away; that champions a kind of “Why” that more aggressively begs an answer as it teases and threatens to reveal yet more cryptic motives that ultimately expose the wrongdoing and the wrong doers.

        There’s definitely been a lot of wrong doing. Some apparently to bring down a lawful government and overthrow a duly elected presidency.

        It’s such a stupid little thing, this cellphone left behind.

        Just perhaps the kind of stupid little thing that changes the fate of the all involved.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          Just perhaps the kind of stupid little thing that changes the fate of all involved

          Kinda like
          the way a “taping system” installed in the Oval Office that recorded everything did in the 70s?

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    • MelH says:

      If that’s the ONLY question asked, I’d be happy.

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    • Pa Hermit says:

      Really, I would expect that our WH would be able to monitor ALL BROADCASTS EMANATING FROM THE PREMISES! That would be picked up immediately! Intel Community would cover all bases!

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  11. Bill says:

    The trick to getting the truth out of any suspect is not forward sequential questions. This is a common mistake. If you ask questions in sequential order the suspect can easily think ahead to what the next question might be and map out his answers. The way to trap Mueller is to ask the questions starting at the end and working backwards.

    For example: Ok, so let’s start when you stabbed the victim. Just before you walked in the house and the stabbing took place what were you thinking on the porch? What made you angry like that by the time you got to the porch? And so on…

    Believe it or not, By asking the questions in a backward format making them use recollection, it makes it extremely difficult for the suspect to come up with an answer that doesn’t jive with the end result. It takes away their ability to plan or make an excuse. I truly hope they ask the questions in this format.

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    • “The fly in your ointment” is obviously going to be that this person continues to represent himself – and, “to be so represented, by immensely powerful ‘external powers that be’ …” – as “a legitimate Special Counsel,” operating (of course …) under the applicable parameters of law and judicial procedure.”

      The blunt truth of the matter – clearly apparent to one-and-all of us – is that this is an utter and complete lie. However, from Mueller’s position, he has a choice: he could either satisfy William Barr, his ostensible boss, or he could satisfy Hillary Clinton, his true master. It’s really up in the air which way he might go: “under the bus, or over it?”

      Offhand, I’d say that he will probably back-stab William Barr’s expectations of the situation – (after all, he doesn’t work for him anymore) – and serve his true master: the well-established “Washington, DC apparatchik.” So long as there remains even the faintest hope that any of them “will one day wake up in the morning and find that Hillary Clinton is actually the President,” I don’t think that their wellspring of hope will ever run dry. In Mueller, Barr, Comey, Hillary, etc… I know that I will only find sycophants.

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      • Robert Smith says:

        It could be that whatever interference Barr is running for Mueller evaporates if Mueller deviates from the Mueller SC report. Perhaps that is their deal, if there is one.

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      • underwhelmingposter says:

        I seriously doubt Ms. Clinton is on their minds now. This is apparently a huge CYA effort.
        I just find it curious that if all this collusion and deep state threat is about to be uncovered and disclosed, and thinking that Nadler and Schiff were “in the know” all along, why are they continuing to push this? Their latest supoenas are targeting obstruction.
        Where is the sense of personal honor that Robert Mueller was supposed to have. How do people live with themselves while doing this?
        Until heads roll, I will be frustrated.

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        • Will Hunt says:

          Why indeed do all of the alleged miscreants and felons merrily carry on BAU without a seeming care in the world. It has never made one little bit of sense. The behavior of all of these alleged nefarious minions (RR, Comey, Brennan, etc. etc. etc) has never comported with the purported mountain of damning evidence just waiting to be publicly released. Either they are not in their right minds or they know something we don’t.

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    • Dutchman says:

      If they had the option, the Repubs should do like they did with questioning blasey ford; bring in someone who KNOWS what the F they are doing.
      Most in Congress are clueless on how to question someone, and way to cognisant of the cameras.
      The woman who questioned 2 door was EXCELLENT; she’s not a POLITICIAN, she is someone who questions people for a living.
      And yes, the technique you describe is one of several, that go far beyond the hackneyed “good cop/bad cop” from hollyweird.

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      • underwhelmingposter says:

        Neither Nadler nor Schiff will allow anything that might rock the boat. I suspect there will be many “out of order” gavel banging by the Chairmen of the combined committees towards the Repubs. Remember, these Chairmen have been meeting with Mueller for some weeks to agree on the testimony. No Repubs in the negotiations. This will be a completely scripted session. I believe that a blistering attack by the Repubs will not happen. Neither committee Chairman will allow it. More frustration.
        If possible, questions should be asked (by the Repubs) in such a way that no answer from Mueller will be a good answer.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Oh, I know. I’m not sure with the limited value of Republicans being able to do anything, if they wouldn’t be better yielding there time.

          Don’t even show up. “Hey, look we are going to be over HERE, caucusing on infrastructure and the border crises, (important stuff), but you clowns go ahead with your clown show!

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          • 🍺Gunny66 says:

            Dutch,

            This is exactly what they, the Republicans should do.

            Don’t even show up. hey, he spent two years and millions of dollars and submitted his report.

            What is left to ask? It’s over. Done. Finished.

            The President was not found to do anything wrong.
            What other questions need to be asked?

            Mueller stated the investigation was over.

            Ha……..C’mon man…….Everyone knows they are trying to “invent” guilt……

            Yep….don’t even show…..

            It’s Over

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            • Dutchman says:

              Apperently Mueller got Barrs subtle hint, as they are now saying HE may not show.
              Tee hee, with Dems like this, who needs enemies.
              Also, the Trump/Pence 2020 can save a LOT of $ on “op research” against the Dems.
              Its all right there, in the headlines,…

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        • Raptors2020 says:

          Questions about Mueller’s phone will be ruled out of order because they’re not germane to the Mueller Report. Ask about Mifsud: he’s been physically hidden by them for many months. There’s a neon sign reading cover-up.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            Konstantin Klimnik – US Department of State

            Carter Page (3rd Renewal/No charges by Mueller) based on Steele Dossier
            “Is Steele Dossier “Russian disinfo” as reported by the NYT?”
            “Would ‘Russian Disinfo’ qualify as ‘Russian Interference’?”
            “Weren’t you specifically charged with investigating ‘Russian Interference’?

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  12. The operative question, though, is going to be – indeed, as Trey Gowdy himself observed – is this career-Washington bastard going to “step out of his four corners?” Probable answer: “why should he?”

    Basically, this guy has engineered himself to “sail off into the sunset,” having tried to position all of his pages as consisting (somehow …) as “a legitimate Special Counsel work product.” (Even though it very clearly is not, and even though Actual Accused Russians(!) are now Actually Fighting Back In Court(!!) (gasp!) to that effect.) This is probably gonna be this guy’s story, and he’s probably gonna stick to it.

    And his co-conspirators(!) in Congress are going to do their best to “jimmy the rules” and to dearly hope that nobody notices. *(Heh …)*

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Let him be seen NOT answering simple questions.
      Let it be seen Nadler/Schiff NOT allowing basic questions to be asked or answered.

      Moves the football not an inch and maybe even loss of yardage.

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  13. Devil in the Blue Drapes says:

    I think Gowdy is giving Mueller more credit than deserved, and for the wrong reason.

    He implies Mueller is sooooo clever, having worked for the FBI, he’ll hold his cards close to the vest.
    The only cards of importance to Mueller right now are the flash cards Weissman is grilling him on over the weekend. 😂

    This is going to be entertaining for certain. When the Mueller angle fails what’s the next genius move, subpoena Putin?

    The democrats of the 115th Congress have managed to make The Jerry Springer Show appear sane.

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Mueller will get rattled. He’s not used to being challenged.

      A while back I posted a video of Mueller stammering through a question someone asked about the FBI and parallel construction. And he wasn’t being interrupted either.

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      • Will Hunt says:

        Mueller was weak, awkward, nervous, shaky, etc at his recent “press conference” reading a prepared script. It should be, at a minimum, an entertaining performance to see him “cross examined”

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      • Matt Hay says:

        Look no further than how rattled Mueller was when he was approached by that reporter on his way to the car with his wife. He was so rattled he couldn’t even use his keys to open the drivers door, and had to hand them to his wife so she could open her door, and unlock his for him. I get the impression that his mental acuity isn’t quite what it used to be.

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Trey Gowdy is a smart man. When hosts want him to leap over the edge, he doesn’t bite. He dislikes what is going on as much as we do. He just doesn’t go where we would like to see him go.

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      • Devil in the Blue Drapes says:

        I didn’t mean to imply his intelligence and certainly not his competence.

        It’s his swampiness that precludes placing faith in his motives.

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  14. Richard Whitney says:

    Was it early 2018? VSG goaded them, when they believed he might fire Mueller, into rabidly defending Mueller. So Trump had them where he wanted them. About a year later, the report comes out, can’t be spun in any way, no collusion. And on the way Mueller gathers evidence against that plant Manafort. So far Mueller hasn’t worked for them as they imagined. They so anticipate Mueller’s testimony being a victory for them, it could backfire wildly.

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      the only victory will be if Mueller varies from the script. That would be the open door to walk through.
      How about this for a question: Christopher Steele said in an interview with Horowitz that he told (name 1, name 2, name 3 et al) that the dossier was unsubstantiated in date early 2016. These people were on your team. When did they inform you of this?
      This would of course only be able to happen if parts of the Steele interview would be available to the Repubs.
      A bombshell like that would be eye opening to all.

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  15. MDNA I says:

    Jim Jordan is probably tied w/ Doug Collins as the best Cross-Examiner on the House GOP side. This is an extended 1 on 1 b/w Jordan & Muller during the IRS Scandal

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    • beachbum31 says:

      after answering ZERO questions Jordan should have approached the babbling boob half wit in a crouch, and full nelsoned his shovel face right into the carpet til he answered every one.

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    • livefreeordieguy says:

      You can see that Congressman Jordan wants to scream “Mr. Director, do you freakin’ know ANYTHING?”…. This doddering, pathetic, corrupt old fool deserves to be shredded next Wednesday… For SO many reasons… Not the least of which is he let four men in Boston ROT in jail for crimes Mueller knew they did not commit in order to cover for FBI corruption. And when the men won a massive verdict granting them many millions of dollars, only two of the four were still alive to spend a penny of it. Oh, and Mueller also helped destroy America’s faith in its Justice System… So there’s that… Mueller is vermin.

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      • And that was 7 years ago!

        If Mueller dodders the first bit, I would ask him questions regarding his mental competency including recent medical history and diagnosis. Did he have the mental capacity to sign the report and understand its contents, or to even run the investigation?

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    • Robert Smith says:

      Robert Mueller, Former Head of FBI gets asked a question about Parallel Construction (note jack@ss Head of CIA Brennan introduces Mueller) — relevant section starts at 21:10 with a question from a dude who knows his stuff:

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  16. Kejocala says:

    I just want someone involved in this to go to jail. Then and only then will I be satisfied!

    Liked by 6 people

  17. emeraldcoaster says:

    SD, great list of questions designed to expose Herr Mueller and the un-American swamp critters. I’ll be stunned if the applicable GOP representatives ask them.

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  18. boogywstew says:

    Can your brain comprehend it’s own stupidity? Does it make your head hurt?

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  19. littleanniefannie says:

    Question: Did James Comey contact you before he leaked classified information and reveal what he was going to do and why?

    Question: How many members of “your” team did you actually select and how many were already working on the Trump Investigation when you were named Special Counsel?

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  20. Dems/Lawfare run the real danger of over coaching this guy.

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  21. Steve in MT says:

    The only thing I would change in your questions is that I would use leading questions. What you have will let a competent witness not interested in telling the truth to run away with their answers. Instead, state a fact and make him agree with it. This requires supporting documentation, but there is plenty of it. This is far more effective for getting out the information and making the witness agree with you than open ended questions.

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  22. Hmmm... says:

    Game changing if true. It would be a good strategy to get Mueller and Co locked into testimony before declassifying. We’ve seen this theory lead to nowhere before though.

    One aspect that I think is very under rated is that the MOU is likely going to be CIA and FBI getting NSA access that would eventually lead to NSA holding the bag in court. Colyer’s brief found the NSA was the agency that “lacked candor”. They took the heat while the other agencies reaped the reward.

    The bad blood between the agencies was almost certainly a factor at some level in the events of 2016. Personally I think the inter-agency dispute escalated wildly and completely out of control. I don’t think it is hard to imagine that in response to rogue actions by the FBI and CIA that other agencies went rogue on “our side”. Certain leaks and information seem to just drop from the sky at key times throughout this saga.

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    • Kleen says:

      If true.

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      • Hmmm... says:

        Unfortunately Paul Sperry is not one that I consider overly reliable. I like him but he sometimes seems to include speculation in his tweets rather than facts.

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    • Dutchman says:

      There is that. SD hasn’t posted anything on it in quite awhile, nor have I commented on it, (have in the past) cause theres really nothing to say,…but yes certain material that SD has ‘picked up on’ is official releases, not leaks, but unattributable, as to WHO released them. Info that helped to fill in blanks, and increase our understanding.

      It may be as you say, or it could even be people below top level, ‘white hats’ keeping heads down, but doing what they can. Its all speculation, except that this material IS getting out, somehow.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      “the improper access granted to the (REDACTED) contractors…..seems to be the result of deliberate decision making”
      Apr2017 FISA Court Memo Opinion Order PG 87

      IOW: They knew it was improper when they did it.

      and if FusionGPS is one of those contractors given that “improper access”

      hiding Christopher Steele and HRC funding in the footnote in Carter Page’s FISA application may be the least of FBI’s worries.

      “The FBI speculates the IDENTIFIED US PERSON (Glenn Simpson, FusionGPS) was likely looking for information that could discredit Candidate #1’s campaign”

      IOW: FBI specifically hid from that same FISA judge that they KNEW what FusionGPS was up to since THEY gave them the “improper access” deliberately in the first place
      OR
      We simply haven’t seen “speculation” that accurate since CNN’s “hunch” Roger Stone would be arrested.

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  23. The Gipper Lives says:

    “it was an FBI phone set up so that McCabe’s investigators could listen to the conversation with the target of the investigation, President Trump.”

    And what was said after Mueller left the room. Essentially, this was Rosenstein wearing a wire–he wasn’t “joking” at all.

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    • WSB says:

      Could we assume that someone saw the phone…and breathed heavily into it?

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Or moved it out of the Oval office into some secretary’s desk to be held until claimed?

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        • Dutchman says:

          Actually, if you KNOW your bugged, you can USE it, in a number of ways.

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          • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

            First texts Bob read when he picked up his phone the next day:

            Hiya Bob…..sorry you forgot your cell phone.
            Your grandkids sure look alot like their grandad.
            I assume that was them in those pics from the big soccer game….(Hope they won)
            Thanks for stopping by to interview for the FBI Director job……again.
            Unfortunately I’m gonna have to pass on you.
            I really need an FBI Director that can keep track of his cell phone, among other things.
            (We sure don’t need another email fiasco in the country…ha ha.)
            -Don

            Oh…..your wife texted you several times asking you to bring home a quart of milk
            (hope your mashed potatoes weren’t too dry and lumpy)
            and Jim Comey texted
            “Call me”
            multiple times.
            -Don

            You’ll have to stop by another time…..
            I’ll show the remodeling I did and the gold I found in the walls of the White House.:)
            Say hi to Rod if you see him.
            -Don

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          • Linda K. says:

            Yes, an open phone accidentally left in the oval office, might seem suspicious and difficult to explain . Hmmm. Like an open grenade….I would put in in the toilet.

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        • WSB says:

          Would like to have been a fly on the wall for that one!

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  24. Mike says:

    Well done SD.
    I hope you have sent the repubs your questions. We can’t assume they will read CTH.
    They have an excellent opportunity.
    I will pray they don’t screw it up.
    Thank you SD.
    I disagree with Goudy in that I don’t think Mueller is all there. He looked weak and afraid in his previous “statement.” I hope, given the opportunity, the repubs show Mueller the same mercy that team Mueller showed PapaD, Flynn, Stone, etc.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      I keep wondering just WHY Muellar agreed to front for Weissman and Clinton and Obama.He had to have been convinced that they’d force Trump screw up so badly impeachment would be a snap. Still, at his age, I’d have thought this would be too stressful an assignment as things can always go south in life.

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      • jbowen82 says:

        They truly believed that they were going to find “collusion” between the Trump inner circle and the Putin inner circle. They were going to be heroes who saved America. When they didn’t find it because it didn’t exist, they doubled down on obstruction of justice.

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        • Dutchman says:

          jbowen82,
          Sorry but no. Have you not read here, not followed whats been written, or just totally disagree with whats been written on these pages, including Sundances posts?

          They KNEW, from day ONE that Trump had NOTHING to do with Putin or Russia.

          The goal, from day one was Impeachment threat, to force resignation, and Russian collusion hoax was NEVER going to produce that result.

          Obstruction, like goading PDJT into firing Mueller and team, would have got them there. When thaat didn’t work, in desperation they tried the perjury trap, didn’t work, either.
          One of the reasons the report was such crap is they never expected to have to write it, as such. Because they expected these other actions would,suffice. So no, IMHO they NEVER WERE seriously investigating muh Russia; it was a HOAX.

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          • underwhelmingposter says:

            Great comment!!

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          • Will Hunt says:

            Agree. There is substantial public evidence to support this contention. An obstruction charge was the objective vigorous, aggressive pursuit of the non-existent collusion hoax was the means.

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          • In essence, their MO was to try to make conditions so intolerable for Trump that he would “react.” It didn’t matter how he “reacted,” only that he did. Even to demand that the special counsel be replaced by one who wasn’t conflicted would have been enough for his enemies to scream that he was obstructing their precious witch hunt.

            But “the Orange Fox out-foxed them all.” He did the one thing that they never counted on: nothing but cooperate. They wanted 1.4 million pages(!) of documents. He gave it to them. Then they wanted to interview everyone on his staff, including his lawyers, for thirty hours. He let them. They threatened his children and his wife. He did nothing. All while “Tweeting” his righteous anger and frustration, and leading them to believe what they all wanted to believe – that he was an impetuous man who was “about to do it.”

            We don’t entirely know who asked William Barr to return as Attorney General. (He’s only the second person in history to have served twice.) But we saw the witch hunt proceedings stop immediately thereafter. Except that it hasn’t stopped in the House Committees, who want to hold their own [illegal …] trial of a man who faces no Federal charges nor accusations at all.

            I think that what these Committees are doing now is Unconstitutional for two reasons. First, Congress was not given law enforcement power. Second, the Impeachment clause unquestionably contemplates that the impeached person would face subsequent criminal charges regarding the offense, and here the Judiciary, applying the interpretation of the law that is actually used in court, found no offense at all.

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            • Dutchman says:

              Their unceasing desperation, is in itself a give away. WHY NOT just back off, and try to work with PDJT where they can, oppose where they must, and wait him out?

              It is this, as much as anything, that convinces me we have a one-party system, masquerading as a two party system.
              If somehow Rubio, Cruz or Jeb had won, they would have been villified in the normal way, to fool the rubes.

              But NOTHING like this; no soft coup to attempt to take them out, no unrelenting personal and legal attacks on anyone who associates with them.
              We all see how,THIS full assault on DJT is different. Why? Cause unlike the others, he is NOT corrupt or compromised, it seems pretty obvious, to me.
              IMHO

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          • jbowen82 says:

            I disagree. I think they believed their conduct was necessary because VSG was a Russian stooge. Just like dirty cops plant evidence to make the prosecution easy, these dirty cops knew they were cutting some corners, but only in the short term, because the investigation was going to prove that they were right. They just had to get the investigation going.

            A good 30% of Americans STILL believe our President is working for Russia. It’s not hard to believe that a “small group” of DC Swamp Democrats also believed it. In fact, I’d be shocked if they didn’t.

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            • Dutchman says:

              Prepare to be shocked, then. Oh, some like the gal who said “we needed to get this info out, before it disappeared” no doubt believed.

              But, should it all come out, Obama, Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Stroxz KNEW it was manufactured B.S.
              Its even in the texts; from their own mouths; there is no “there, there”.
              It was a HOAX, and those that perpetrated it KNEW it, from day one.
              IMHO,…

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              • jbowen82 says:

                I don’t disagree that they manufactured a hoax. However, hundreds of people were involved. Some were just Democrat dirty tricksters. Some were careerists who wanted to demonstrate their loyalty to the winning team (because everyone knew Hillary was going to win, and the Clintons are famous for rewarding their friends and punishing their enemies), and some believed the spin that everyone inside the DC bubble “knew,” which was that PDT was working for the Russians.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        He thought with Sessions recused and RINO Senators support
        that he would be able to carry on as long as he wanted and they would get Trump on obstruction (or find something else).

        First thing that screwed things up: Strzok/Page texts that could not be hidden
        Second thing: Sessions was “resigned” and Whitaker (outsider, not RR) temp assigned
        Third thing: Barr shut him down, stole his narrative and released the report

        Been flailing ever since

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  25. John55 says:

    There is nothing preventing the GOP Senate from calling Mueller to testify and from asking him all these questions at their leisure ….. assuming they actually want to pop the impeachment balloon. Their failure to do so signals their cooperation with the House Dems and with Mueller.

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    • Dutchman says:

      John55;
      2 things; Mitch McConnell, as Majority Leader, and Lindsey Graham, as head of Judiciary.
      And yeah, there is a LOOooong list of things RepubliCON leadership COULD have done, if they were on our side, but they ain’t.

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    • underwhelmingposter says:

      Hannity asked Lindsay Graham tonight if he would bring Weissman over to his committee and put him through the questions. Graham said he would wait on Horowitz, Durham, and Barr before considering that. I am not sure it is within their (the Senate’s) purview to do that.

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  26. Re; “I’ll bet you a dozen donuts the entire purpose of the Oval Office meeting with Mueller was part of the FBI investigation..”

    Maybe that is another kernel, like you say, but to me it brings up the potential Elephant in the room, namely: is it really okay for an employee or agent of the Executive to investigate the President Elect or President without informing him that he is being investigated?

    Even if Mueller wasn’t up to what you infer, given what we pretty much know by now, many others were (investigating without notice or correct due process etc.).

    Now maybe intelligence investigations and suchlike, including anything authorized by FISA Courts, have been given powers superseding due process in lower jurisdictions, but if so, perhaps this isn’t constitutionally kosher and should be revisited.

    In any case, something about all this stinks. You have been on it very well all along, Sundance, but I am still quite cynical as to anything being resolved in any sort of normal, decent and fundamentally lawful way.

    Two things give me hope, though:
    1. People have continually under-estimated Trump. Whether it’s because of his skill or the depth of support he has from backers whom we don’t get to see (military intelligence?) who comprise the network behind his election and ongoing protection, he has overcome everything thrown at him thus far, which is truly astonishing.
    2. The unrelenting ferocity of the attacks against him suggest that he represents a threat, in which case perhaps he is more than yet another Reality TV President they trot out in front of the cameras. (Of course this statement begs a challenge given he had a 14 year successful run as the star and owner of a successful Reality TV show.) So either the attacks are so unrelenting because they are essentially staged, or he and his network present a real threat, and if they are a real threat, presumably they have some real power, most likely access to information. If his backers are Senior Military Intelligence as I suspect, and it’s true what I’ve read that Military Intelligence trumps the civilian alphabet agency intelligence and moreover ‘sees’ anything those beneath them see, then this might explain how he keeps outfoxing them. And in turn, this suggests that there might indeed be a REAL conflict between REAL protagonists and finally some sort of resolution, i.e. victory for one side over the other rather than the whole thing ending up as some sort of inconclusive mud-wrestling context where both winner and loser remain covered in Swamp Mud and doomed to remain there in perpetuity.

    Hopefully, time will tell…

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Next question….

      Who has clearance higher then the president thereby giving that person the ability to listen to information that is classified ….. Presidential…..???

      Yeah nobody, launch codes are changed all the time. Spying takes place.all the time. President’s receive for your eyes only briefings and info all the time.

      No one can be legally authorized to spy on the president NO ONE. These cucks idea of a listening device was.probably as secure as Hillary,s server.

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      • The “lost cell phone” story is … ahh … “highly doubtful, at best.”

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      • “No one can be legally authorized to spy on the President.”
        Well, that’s why I asked. First, we have separation of powers with each having their own domains, or in legal parlance: jurisdictions.
        Does the FISA Court have jurisdiction to authorize spying on any citizen of the USA including an elected President? And I presume they already have the power – as do lower level police officers – to initiate investigations into possible criminals without their knowledge or consent up until the moment they need a warrant to search or arrest.

        So is the President under some jurisdiction somewhere where that is okay, and if that is true, can that Agent be from within the Executive of which he supposedly is the Chief Officer?

        I would appreciate if Sundance – or someone here who knows – could explain all this in a clear article about it. I suspect that many now in Congress need that education as much as I!

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    • mj_inOC says:

      …that’s why ‘they/deepstate’ call it “counter-intelligence.”

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  27. GB Bari says:

    One would hope that POTUS now has the WH areas in which he moves and works swept regularly for bugs.
    I agree with disallowing cellphones into meetings with POTUS. Seems incongruent with standard security practices to not do that as a rule.

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  28. mr.piddles says:

    “Other than Rod Rosenstein, did you speak to any members of the DOJ or FBI prior to going to the White House on May 16th, 2017?”

    Also: Other than Rod Rosenstein, did you communicate with any members of the DOJ or FBI concerning any Special Counsel appointment prior to yourself being appointed Special Counsel on May 17th, 2017? If so, what timeframes were those communications, with whom did you communicate, and by what means?

    I have a feeling the true answer to the first question is “yes”. And we can probably reasonably guess a few possible answers to the second question.

    I believe, but I’m not absolutely certain, that a “Bob” was mentioned in the Page/Strzok texts. If so, could have been a different “Bob”, of course. And you just know Weissman and Mueller were chit-chatting.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      did you speak to any members of the DOJ or FBI–current or former–or their staff, associates or representatives……

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  29. Phflipper says:

    Stop and consider for a moment. Nothing is going to change outside of change.

    So what is going to bring change? If it helps one to find the answer, look to history for those times of real change.

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  30. bour3 says:

    Corn isn’t the only grain that pops. All grains puff, some pop similar to corn, such as sorghum. Amaranth pops even quicker than corn does. So does quinoa.

    (Sometimes Huffington Post isn’t the worst site on the internet)

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/puffed-grains-popped-corn_n_6107716

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  31. Troublemaker10 says:

    Mueller won’t answer any of those questions. He will said that he will stay within the four corners of his report, and only the four corners of the report.

    I wonder if Trump and Barr already know the answers to those questions though. Rosenstein knows the answers to most of those questions, afterall.

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  32. AnotherView says:

    Being Southern and all, Howdy Gowdy does come up with a good line or two sometimes. I used to be fond of watching him at hearings. He was a good prosecutor once upon a time. Pity he’s now just another chicken sh*t RINO who sold out. Big buddies with Wray.

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  33. jus wundrin says:

    Will mewler even show?

    The way the MSM has unhyped this makes me wonder,

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    • 🍺Gunny66 says:

      And you know what else……think about this one….

      ..I would bet you a donut that these people “forgot” a “whole bunch” of cell phones all over the place…….

      “Hey I just had a meeting with the Chief Justice”

      “Hey….let’s meet with Gen Flynn…..

      Whole lot of forgotten cell phones……Just sayin…

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    • DaughterofLiberty says:

      I’m with you on this — my bet is he’ll be a no show – some excuse will materialize.

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  34. Trey Gowdy, yeah the possum haired, ineffectual former congressman who had Hildy under oath for 12 hours and got nada? Yeah, right. I’m not sure what’s wrong with this guy nor why he can’t figure out which way to part his hair at this advanced age…possibly a metaphor there, wonder at what temperature his head might pop?

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  35. pete says:

    bla bla bla bla Sick of it…this whole never ending investigation with nothing to show for is getting too old for my taste!

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  36. dayallaxeded says:

    The kernel that should be easiest to pop is the muh Rooskie “hack” of the DNC server–Mr. Meuller, the FBI didn’t examine the DNC server to determine whether or not it was “hacked” by muh Rooskies, did it? Nor did the Special Counsel’s investigators examine the DNC server, did they? You are not able to establish a documented law enforcement chain of custody for the DNC server and all data thereon, including any alleged evidence of hacking by muh Rooskies, correct? So the genesis of your entire investigation is based entirely on inadmissible hearsay from a paid DNC operative, CloudStrike, isn’t that right? And you have no first hand knowledge, whether yourself or in your capacity as special counsel to verify whether Cloudstrike’s allegations of hacking were true, false, or even plausible, do you? When a person under investigation tells the truth to investigators and to the public, that truth-telling cannot constitute obstruction of justice, can it? (I’d be waiting with bated breath for him to try to hedge on that one).

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    • Will Hunt says:

      The mishandling/non-handling of the DNC servers is a clear and present problem for the deep state. There is literally no justification for the investigative use of ANY information tied to this hardware. I suspect that the response will be much like that for the “dossier” – it played no role in our investigation. They have no problem with laying this type of nonsense out there.

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    • We do not have any evidence whatsoever that the “DNC Server” actually existed. Occam’s Razor has no need for it whatsoever. All that we have is that information was “leaked.” And, that someone needed a pretext to call it counter-espionage in order to “justify” everything else that we now know they were doing.

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  37. mg says:

    The loathsome Trey gowdy couldn’t find a pan to pop corn in.
    Benghazi was one of his epic failures. Probably works for the Clinton crime family.

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  38. Quint says:

    “doesn’t *accidentally* leave his cell phone in the Oval Office.”

    Hmmm…. a pointless lot of accusations and timelines, because it’s not provable malice.
    What do you expect Mueller to do? Confess?

    Much better to examine the propaganda Mueller ran as an investigation compared and contrasted to the complete silence on Hillary’s / Democrat confessed felony behaviour and the Russian BS..

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  39. Sammy Hains says:

    Don’t forget the question “did the phone monitor, record, or transmit any audio or video from the Oval Office during or after your meeting?”

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  40. Mark Wothe says:

    I can’t help but believe that not only will most of these questions not be asked, but a total of none will be answered. Doesn’t matter if he says he can’t recall, it’s not in the report, or it’s classified. Then the Democrats will lie about what was said. There will be no record, so the media will report it as fact. Any Republicans will be portrayed as being on a witch hunt against Mueller. This will be bolstered by tons of commentary from dbags like allahpundit, popehat, etc.

    It sucks to be cynical but I think this will be nothing good for Trump or America.

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    • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

      Mueller’s testifying in pubilc….on TV.

      Let him evade basic questions about the investigation US citizens paid for.

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  41. Charlotte Powell Brooks says:

    I’ve never seen any upper echelon people, whether government or otherwise, go anywhere hand carrying a communication device unless they’re using it. Why would he have his cell phone in his hand in the first place to be “placed somewhere” and “innocently” forgotten?
    After leaving, how long was it before you realized you left it? Should’ve been immediately if you hand carry one everywhere you go.
    Considering the literally tens of thousands of text messaging that we know occurs and the need for people of this position to be in constant contact, one would think that the “naked feeling” of not having your “binky” (cell phone) with you would be omnipotently important.

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  42. jambo says:

    “One person familiar with McCabe’s account said Rosenstein brought up the idea of recording Trump on two separate occasions that day.” (May 16th)

    Do we know if those two separate occasions happened to be just before the meeting in which the phone was left behind?

    Panicked men often act on impulse.

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    • Genie says:

      It appears one occasion was before the Mueller visit to the White House and the other was after the visit later that night. I’d like to know if Mueller was with Rosenstein on either of those occasions when “wearing a wire” was discussed.

      I hate to cite CNN, but below is something it wrote about those FBI meetings of May 16, 2017, a day which at some point will live in infamy:

      https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/22/politics/divergent-stories-may-16-rosenstein-mccabe/index.html

      There were at least two different meetings at the Justice Department that May 16 that have now landed Rosenstein in hot water.

      During what as been characterized as the first meeting, Rosenstein raised the prospects of wearing a wire and of the 25th Amendment, according to sources familiar with McCabe’s contemporaneous account — though people disagree about Rosenstein’s intent and McCabe’s motivations. Later that day, McCabe went back to the Justice Department and this time then-FBI lawyer Lisa Page, with whom he worked closely at the time, joined him.

      According to text messages reviewed by CNN, just after 7 that evening, Page texted then-FBI counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok, saying, “Headed over with Dd now,” their typical reference to McCabe as deputy director. Strzok wished her “good luck” and over the course of the next hour, he eagerly awaits her return “for an update.”

      At what has been described as the second meeting, McCabe, Page and other Justice officials were present and Rosenstein again raised the prospect of a wire, but did not mention recruiting Cabinet officials to invoke the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from office.

      A source who was in the room for the second meeting told CNN that the wire comment was “non-serious,” “sarcastic and was never discussed with any intention of recording a conversation with the President.” Another source familiar with the matter told CNN that Rosenstein was joking.

      Nevertheless, Page memorialized the conversation in a contemporaneous memo herself, which corroborated McCabe’s version of events and remained at the FBI when she left the bureau in May 2018.

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  43. warspite2 says:

    The best strategy and use of tactics would be as follows. Secretly, telling absolutely no one outside a very few Republican Reps, pick the single most capable person to ask questions and handle responses. Keeping that secret, send the Reps out to work with staff on preparing 5 min of question. Have those questions submitted & shared 24 hrs before the hearing. The Rep actually asking the questions needs to cull through and determine questions to ask in addition to whatever he/she may have prepared. Immediately prior to the hearing Jordan should instruct all Reps they are to yield their time to the single designated Rep. No other way to have 45-60 min of effective questioning.

    Unfortunately there will be selfish, grandstanding pols who just can’t keep a secret.

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    • A simple way for them to try to do it is to limit the proceeding to one hour, give each respondent ten minutes, and arrange the schedule so that Democrats come first. If there are more than six of them, Republicans never get to ask questions [in public].

      But even Congressmen do not live completely in a vacuum, and right now I have my doubts that Articles of Impeachment, if actually introduced, would at this point pass the House. If you voted for them, you’d be signing your own political death warrant.

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  44. Pyrthroes says:

    Circumstances and timelines here have definitively exposed Mueller’s bad faith, ill-willed, false pretense agent-provocateur “process” over some two years. All this endless legal-schmegal, hyper-politicized charade has done, or can do, is stamp “Official” on facts that “would make a sailor blush” (Lowe’s ‘Enry ‘Iggins).

    Go get ’em, Trey, now safely behind the Beltway line-of-fire. For your information, objective, rational observers –particularly those frequenting Sundance/CTH– grasp Rats’ stalled coup d’oeuvre without etching holograms in curly-cued detail. As Keats once put it, “That is all ye know on earth, and all you need to know.”

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  45. Brenda says:

    Ah but if only these questions could get to the questioners.

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  46. gnome says:

    Mr Mueller – you have said your testimony here will not go outside the contents of your report, which is your testimony. I respect that.

    On Pages x, y and z of the report you report that there were 110 points of intersection between the Trump Campaign and persons with connections to Russia. On Pages u, v and w you refer to 140 contacts between the Trump Campaign and persons connected to Russia. Can you direct me please, to the numbers which refer to similar intersections and contacts between the Clinton Campaign and persons connected with Russia?

    Can you direct me please, to the pages and passages where you provide and evaluate the evidence you collected, that “Russia” preferred Trump over Clinton to win the Presidential election?

    It’s your report – are you sure you had any part in producing it or that you have even read it?

    I yield my time.

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  47. gsonFIT says:

    One item China has beat us on is in the political arena. The majority of their representatives are of an economic background and not made up of lawyers.

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  48. Sammy Hains says:

    Nice how Gowdy reminds the audience that Biden eulogized segregationist Storm Thurmond. He slyly stirred the pot while passing it off as totally sincere.

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  49. sarasotosfan says:

    Great questions that could be asked if the witness shows up.

    The move to subpoena additional people should tell you the Dems don’t expect the spectacle to occur and they will certainly make their fake outrage known after the DOJ signaled they would support Mueller should he not appear.

    I am hoping this will be one of the few concessions that Barr makes, but until we have evidence to the contrary, there may be no savior of justice waiting in the wings.

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  50. Nessie509 says:

    You are traveling in another dimension.
    The air feels hotter than ever before. It’s as if every word is a bullet. If you don’t duck, bullets might wound-even kill you.
    Suddenly, you realize the bullets are passing right through you leaving just a slight whiff of gaslight.
    All the corn kernels on the ear of corn you are holding refuse to pop.
    You have just arrived at a Congressional Hearing Zone.

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