Trey Gowdy Says He Has Seen Exculpatory Transcripts of FBI Spies Engaged With Papadopoulos…

In September 2016 the FBI used a longtime informant, Stefan Halper, to make contact with George Papadopoulos, pay him $3k and fly him to London for consulting work and a policy paper on Mediterranean energy issues.

As part of the spy operation the FBI sent a female intelligence operative (a spy) under the alias Azra Turk to pose as Halper’s assistant and engage Papdopoulos.  A month later the FBI used Papadopoulos as a supplemental basis for a FISA warrant against Carter Page.

Former Chairman of the House Oversight Committee, Trey Gowdy, tells Maria Bartiromo that he has seen transcripts of the Halper/Turk operation, and those transcripts exonerate Papadopoulos.  WATCH:

[Transcript Video 01:10] Bartiromo: I’m really glad you brought that up; the FBI agents’ discussion with George Papadopoulos. Because when the FBI sends in informants to someone they’re looking at, typically those conversations are recorded right? Those people are wired?

Gowdy: Yeah, I mean if the bureau is going to send an informant in, the informant is going to be wired; and if the bureau is monitoring telephone calls there’s going to be a transcript of that.

And some of us have been fortunate enough to know whether or not those transcripts exist; but they haven’t been made public and I think one in-particular is going – it has the potential to actually persuade people.  Very little in this Russia probe I’m afraid is going to persuade people who hate Trump, or who love Trump, but there is some information in these transcripts that I think has the potential to be a game-changer if it’s ever made public.

Bartiromo: You say that’s exculpatory evidence and when people see that they’re going to say: wait, why wasn’t this presented to the court earlier?

Gowdy: Yeah, you know, Johnny Ratcliffe is rightfully exercised over the obligations that the government has to tell the whole truth to the court when you are seeking permission to spy, or do surveillance, on an American.  And part of that includes the responsibility of providing exculpatory information, or information that tends to show the person did not do something wrong.  If you have exculpatory information, and you don’t share it with the court, that ain’t good.  I’ve seen it, Johnny’s seen it, I’d love for your viewers to see it.

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308 Responses to Trey Gowdy Says He Has Seen Exculpatory Transcripts of FBI Spies Engaged With Papadopoulos…

  1. littleanniefannie says:

    Now let’s see if Sen. Burr has the anatomical parts to go get what Trey Gowdy says he should seek. I am willing to bet when he says Mother May I to Warner, Warner smacks him down!

    Liked by 15 people

    • But will Warner be able to stop Burr?

      Liked by 5 people

      • Bill G says:

        Burr doesn’t need to be stopped. He doesn’t want to see it. Senate Intel has done jack shit to investigate spygate and just blew their cover entirely with the Don Jr. subpoena. Totally corrupt.

        Liked by 1 person

    • bertdilbert says:

      But 17 agencies have confirmed the Russians….

      Liked by 9 people

        • chipin8511 says:

          Obama’s illegal initiative labeled “Operation Hammer” was in full force in March 2016, via American Report:

          FBI Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division Peter Strzok and his supposed paramour, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, exchanged a cryptic, indeed coded, text message on Sunday, March 19, 2017, twenty-six minutes after retired U.S. Air Force Four Star General Thomas McInerney read our exclusive “Whistleblower Tapes” exposé over America’s airwaves, revealing “The Hammer.”

          Liked by 5 people

        • stripmallgrackle says:

          chipin8511, thank you. This is the first direct reference I’ve seen to the unimaginable scale of the Obama operation. Putting things into sharp relief, with many details yet to come, places the urgency with which Pelosi and her generals speak into a whole new context. Sort of like somebody is putting a gun to their heads. What did they know, and when did they know it? Clearly, somebody has a vested interest in gumming up the gears until election time and hoping democrats take over in 2020. This ain’t just about Trump Derangement Syndrome.

          Not sure how long this has been out there, but is this reporting signaling an imminent “leak”? Or a rupture? How about tsunami?

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        • wlbeattie says:

          Interesting reading. Thanks for the link.

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        • spoogels says:

          Obama should go to GITMO

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    • Burr is Warner’s hand puppet.

      Liked by 11 people

    • Justin Green says:

      Burr’s “anatomical parts” have been escrowed in Warner’s purse for the time being.

      Words really don’t express how sick this is, and just how many people are complicit. We haven’t really gotten into accusing Congressmen of crimes, but they’re guilty, too.

      The English language, short of a litany of vulgar expressions, can’t begin to describe their behavior. They are human refuse, and I’ll leave it at that.

      But we’re all mad. They should know this.

      Liked by 21 people

      • Mark L. says:

        What did the FBI do by the book? Am I missing something

        Liked by 9 people

        • Rhoda R says:

          The first question should be: Which book?

          Liked by 17 people

        • trumptea says:

          “By the book” is the investigation that was the “legal” investigation into Trump. Not the illegal one but the legal one.

          The “legal” one is the “by the book” one and it is the reason that Sally Yates wrote herself the memo, literally 15 minutes before Obama left office that contained the “by the book” reference.

          It is based on the premise that the IC (Comey/Brennan/Clapper) thought that Trump was an agent of Russia. It is the reason that they could spy on him and lie to him and keep things from him and his transition team.

          The “by the book” investigation HOWEVER, was instigated because an “off the books” (illegal) spying operation occurred first.

          THAT is WHY it is IMPERATIVE, that when seeking the origins to the spying operation, you MUST go back to March of 2016 and BEFORE.
          Everything afterwards, falls into the “by the book” … everything before falls under “Go to jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200”

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          • mike says:

            Actually it’s a tapestry of crime and conspiracies by faithless government employess massively violating Americans rights, including DJT’s rights. Before November 2016 there were various treasonous and criminal plots against the American people and the Constitution. Either after 8 Nov 16 or 19 Jan 2018, it became a coupe d’état.

            F’g hang em all.

            Liked by 7 people

            • Dutchman says:

              Mike,
              Yes it was many assaults on our Constitution; IRS/Lerner, right to assembly, and tobpetition govt to seek redress of grievances.

              An assault on the Constitution is an assault on WE, the People.

              Hang them, hang them high. The lower downs are already to squeal, McCabe and Comey have already indicated as much.IF they give EVERYBODY, up to Obama, and ALL criminal activity, fine.

              Throw em in jail, and HANG the rest. I am not sure even the Secretary of Agriculture has clean hands, in the Obama admin.

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            • chipin8511 says:

              Dan Bongino

              @dbongino
              Take it to the bank, the FBI/FISA docs are devastating for the Dems. The whole image of a benevolent Barack Obama they’ve disingenuously tried to portray is about to be destroyed. The real Obama, the vengeful narcissist, is going to be exposed for all to see.

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              • DJ says:

                “The real Obama, the vengeful narcissist, is going to be exposed for all to see.”
                ————————————————————————————–
                Those who worship BO will never “see” anything of the sort. It doesn’t matter how bad the info is, they will never abandon their defense of the FBP (First Black President), because, well, BLACK. Anything that paints him in a bad light will simply be deemed racist.

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          • westray hazzard says:

            Susan Rice wrote herself an e-mail telling how it was mentioned in a meeting that Obama said to ” do it by the book.”

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            • Rachel Guess says:

              westray hazzard,

              And strzok’s main squeeze wrote that ‘POTUS (obumbles the clown at that time) wants to know EVERYTHING’, so this definitely moves up the ladder all the way to the top.

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            • chipin8511 says:

              The problem for Brennan and Clapper and Comey and Baker and all of them now is, is that the FISA court has already communicated with the Justice Department about its findings. And their findings are that for more than four years before the election of Donald Trump, there was an illegal spying operation going on by FBI contractors, four of them, to steal personal information, electronic information about Americans, and to use it against the Republican Party.

              There are going to be indictments. There’s going to be grand juries. John Brennan isn’t going to need one lawyer. He’s going to need five. . .

              . . . The Obama administration, for more than four years before the 2016 election, allowed four contractors working for the FBI to illegally surveil American citizens, illegally. The FISA court has already found that.

              I LOVE REVENGE

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          • jeans2nd says:

            tea, it was Susan Rice, not Sally Yates, that sent herself the “by the book” email, and it was 20 minutes after Obama left office, iirc. Rice was actually a private citizen at that time and had no authority to be sending an email on gubmint puters.

            As the Progressives and Democrats do nothing but lie, it is important we keep the facts correct.
            Cheers!

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          • PBR says:

            trumptea, it was Susan Rice not SallyYates who wrote the email to herself about the by the book reference.

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          • Maquis says:

            Susan Rice wrote the “by the book” email.

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        • lydia00 says:

          Don’t trust Gowdy. He has a clever way of twisting so he is always right. Basically says nothing.

          Liked by 1 person

      • Sherri Young says:

        The word “treachery” keeps popping into my head. Sinister is close behind.

        This has the dystopian, outraged feel of “Rob Roy” or “Braveheart”. You want the good guys to win simply because their opposition is soooooo despicable.

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      • clipe says:

        The English language, short of a litany of vulgar expressions, can’t begin to describe their behavior. They are human refuse, and I’ll leave it at that

        https://www.nosweatshakespeare.com/resources/shakespeare-insults/

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        • clipe says:

          Jeez! It’s almost as if the Bard new Jim Comey personally.

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          • clipe says:

            23. “Thine face is not worth sunburning.”
            Henry V (Act 5, Scene 2)

            24. “This woman’s an easy glove, my lord, she goes off and on at pleasure.”
            All’s Well That Ends Well (Act 5, Scene 3)

            #23 Adam Schiff?

            #24 Kamala Harris?

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          • chipin8511 says:

            Justice Scalia was obviously murdered. Every single official that should have looked into his death was on vacation or unavailable. Every single thing was done wrong on purpose. I believe Scalia was cremated before his body even left Texas, in order that not even hair could be examined for deadly drugs.
            His family said nothing; I’m thinking they were warned not to contest the ‘official version’ of Justice Scalia’s death. I would damn sure like to get to the truth of THAT matter, too!

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      • Sue Fowler says:

        So glad others see this for the farce it is. This is The Swamp folks.

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    • glissmeister says:

      Some think Burr is dirty; worse that Paul Ryan ever was. That entire committee seems to be more a copperhead infested cesspool than a treasure of the people.

      Liked by 13 people

    • Dutchman says:

      Anytime we hear anything, we need to consider the SOURCE.
      Anyone else think its STRANGE, that this ‘revelation’ (that A) confirms there ARE transcripts of FBI informants and agents interactions with PapaD, and B) that at least ONE of these transcripts, that he has seen is exculpatory, and a potentual “game changer”) should come from purple tie trey gowdy?

      Consensus for some time has been he’s compromised, so whats up? Has he changed sides,,(in which case he should throw out his tie collection) or, is he ‘putting this out’ to get ahead of it, and control the narrative?

      Another burning question,….

      Liked by 5 people

      • bertdilbert says:

        Gowdy never thought it would go this far, they have always been able to sweep it under the bus before.

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      • RLTW says:

        Exactly. Gowdy is absolute pond scum floating on the Deep State Swamp. Now that he sees where this is headed he suddenly reveals that he has seen the evidence and has totally changed his tune. Why didn’t you bring these facts to light before Trey?

        You’re trying to save your azz that’s why. You were on the wrong side all along and now you are scrambling to make yourself look like a white hat.

        Gowdy is one of the smallest and most poisonous snakes in the swamp.

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      • RoninInCA says:

        Thank you Dutch.. Been waiting for someone to ask this question.. Here is a better question.. Why does dear little Trey ask “his friend” Devin Nunes or Senator Burr to take a look into this matter? Remember Trey was asked by Devin to Review ALL materials for the intelligence committee.. Guess he forgot to mention this piece of the puzzle..

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Has he changed sides,,(in which case he should throw out his tie collection) or, is he ‘putting this out’ to get ahead of it, and control the narrative?

        Dutch….I think the explanation may be something that Kim Strassel alluded to in the speech SD posted here:
        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/18/kimberley-strassel-the-mindset-of-the-coup-is-more-alarming-than-partisanship/#more-163920

        Kim claims she had the name of Stephan Halper as a CI but her and her boss Paul Gigot were concerned if they printed it…..
        the DOJ would come after THEM for possessing classified information.
        Simultaneously, the FBI/DOJ were themselves leaking classified material to own the narrative.
        She was adamant that NO Republican source would confirm the name (caring more about national security than Dems) and she worked Halper’s identity out on her own.

        The DOJ is now firmly in the hands of Barr (or at least more so)
        He appears to be serious about pursuing the “jejune” predication of the investigation including “spying” (his chosen word).

        Perhaps Gowdy, Ratcliffe,Collins and Co. feel more confident they can now reveal these tidbits without retribution and counter the “Barr is just Trump’s attorney” narrative full court press.

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      • tozerbgood8315 says:

        Gowdy changes his opinion about as often as his stupid hair-do-overs

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  2. “ready – take aim – FIRE”

    Liked by 7 people

  3. SpotTheSpook says:

    Should be a pretty eventful week ahead…

    Liked by 6 people

  4. margarite1 says:

    Those dirty SOBs!

    Liked by 2 people

  5. Nigella says:

    The plan is to drag this out as long as possible and daily attack the President to try and stop his re-election

    Liked by 4 people

    • SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

      It would’ve been better for them if it was all revealed 2 years ago.
      Democrats would already be over it with new faces.
      This way it will be much better for Trump when it all happens right before 2020 election. Even better if Biden wins the nomination and Obama is implicated(what did Biden know?)

      Liked by 7 people

      • Raghn Crow says:

        Alas, Joe Touchy-Feely won’t win — he’s a first-class joke, a creepy joke. But I can’t imagine any of the current degenerates, harlequins, and merry-andew commies getting the nod.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Biden isn’t the true candidate of choice. They’ll hide the true candidate as long as possible to avoid/delay the criticism and investigations that the RNC is sure to lead. When they think it’s the correct time, the DNC will suddenly all go in a wave towards the ‘true’ candidate. It’ll be female, a minority, and most like the wife or ex-wife of famous Democrat. Someone THEY feel is untouchable.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Nigella;
      Yes, that IS, clearly the “Plan”.
      Problem is, Uniparty has had a long string of plans not working since,…

      Hmmmm,…since DJT took the escalator ride,….actually! Funny coincidence that!

      Liked by 2 people

  6. chojun says:

    Barr will no doubt have access to these.

    Liked by 3 people

  7. Sandra-VA says:

    So, there IS proof this was all a hoax! Gowdy & Ratcliffe have seen it… and when was that? Why have we been going through this nightmare for so long?

    I am so angry and so sick of this.

    Our tax dollars being used for nefarious spy operations to make sure that someone “they” don’t approve of is slimed and put down. Kinda like “his kind can never rise again” type of operation as per David Plouffe.

    It is time for the “small group” to be taken down and made examples of so THEIR kind can never rise again!!!!

    Liked by 25 people

    • bertdilbert says:

      Who pulled off the better hoax? Jussie Smollett or James Comey?

      Liked by 1 person

    • David Plouffe…very danger vicious bulldog(with even better mask than BHO)…who wanted go after DJT and his kids..

      Liked by 2 people

      • lydia00 says:

        “And some of us have been fortunate enough to know whether or not those transcripts exist; but they haven’t been made public and I think one in-particular is going – it has the potential to actually persuade people. Very little in this Russia probe I’m afraid is going to persuade people who hate Trump, or who love Trump, but there is some information in these transcripts that I think has the potential to be a game-changer if it’s ever made public.”

        Typical Gowdy. I guess they’ll just have to invite him back for another paid media gig. LI don’t trust him.

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    • sundance says:

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      • Sandra-VA says:

        Ah yes, a year ago… almost… Gowdy & Co could have put a stop to this charade. They didn’t.

        He never said he had seen that exculpatory evidence back then…

        DESPICABLE!

        Liked by 12 people

        • Sherri Young says:

          Without AG Barr in place, if Gowdy had spoken up last year, he would have accomplished nothing. Paul Ryan would have further obstructed efforts to investigate the Swamp and make effective criminal referrals.

          Liked by 4 people

        • GSparrow says:

          Sandra-VA
          Exactly what I was thinking.

          Why didn’t Trey ( and “Johnny”) speak up while Papadop was being smeared and indicted as a lying Trump supporting criminal? Trey was bound not to reveal classified info of course but he must have been able to make a general statement to the media about exculpatory evidence that be believes is not being released by the prosecution and then let Papadop’s defense team pursue the facts and subpoena the evidence.

          If I’m wrong i would like to know how it is illegal to make such a statement if fair Justice is to prevail.

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      • The Demon Slick says:

        I didn’t like 4x is bad but 5x is really bad. Moving the goalposts? I don’t trust Gowdy for a second. He’s like the rest of them. Like the Spartan senator in 300, when she cut his purse open it spilled foreign gold.

        Liked by 3 people

      • Sherri Young says:

        When I hit your tweet link, it took me to the House Oversight Committee but gave me a “Page Not Found” notice.

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    • Peoria Jones says:

      “Very little in this Russia probe I’m afraid is going to persuade people who hate Trump, or who love Trump, but…”

      Well then Skippy, how’s ’bout you get off your ass and make people persuaded? Enough of Gowdy playing both sides of the field. We know what he’s been about. He’s not that stupid, and he’s had access.

      Hey Trey – when you go into your next money-making endeavor, you have a choice. You can go there as a run-of-the-mill hack, or you can enter the private field as a prescient hero on the right side of history – always remembered as rewriting the definition of maverick. Do it for you progeny, if not for your country.

      Liked by 11 people

      • Tl Howard says:

        Hey, Trey, I want the nation to know Barry was/is a criminal. He shall forever be tagged, “Richard NIxon 2.” He couldn’t get anything done unless it was done underhandedly.

        Liked by 3 people

        • mike says:

          Nixon was an errant boy scout next to O the communist/fascist lackey muz, agent of Chaos.

          Liked by 6 people

          • Dutchman says:

            Year 2050 Jeopardy Question;
            The ONLY person to benefit from the failed coup attempt in 2016.
            Answer; “Who is Richard Nixon?”

            He will hardly be mentioned, after this.
            Richard WHO?

            Its like “Who is Rutherford B. HAYES?”

            I THINK he was a POTUS, but no idea if he did anything of consequence.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Nunes, Gowdy, Ratcliff and anyone else who have seen this ‘classified’info can NOT reveal it, without serious legal consequences,….except.
        If a Congressman reveals it while on the House floor, under speech and debate clause, he can’t be prosecuted.

        However, he CAN be sanctioned in all sorts of ways, by House ‘leadership’, as we saw with Ryan giving the nod (probably the order) to throw ethics investigation at Nunes.

        So, NOT ‘Defending’ howdy gowdy, but there is little they could do, before now.
        In fact, seems to me what gowdy said may, TECHNICALLY have been revealing classified info. He was SPECIFIC; Transcripts of PapaD’s conversations with FBI C.I.’s, and telephone calls with PapaD and FBI agents, were recorded and there are transcripts, at least one of which is exculpatory.

        PapaD has been saying this all along.

        Maybe, Gowdy is not so black hat, or has turned. Maybe, since he isn’t in the House anymore, he isn’t concerned with political retribution, and feels safe from being charged with revealing details of classified info?

        Is it possible Nunes told him not to run for reelection, so at least SOMEONE who had seen the classified documents, would be out of office, and so sble to talk?

        Still think its strange GOWDY is the one revealing this!

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        • Peoria Jones says:

          I’ve never thought of Gowdy as a “black hat,” but more of an opportunistic, self-serving placeholder (at least since Benghazi).

          May your proposition be true. It would be a welcome twist. He talks a good game, and knows team chess. Let’s hope he picks a side, and it’s ours.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          Maybe Gowdy did not even see the exculpatory evidence until after PapaD did his several days in prison. We may be using false assumptions while pounding on Gowdy.

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        • jebg46 says:

          Remember that Nunes had Gowdy go to the Scif to read classified information because Gowdy had the legal background required to understand some of it. So Nunes may not have been told every detail.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          Thinking about what the “game-changing” info might be…….

          Has PapaD claimed in interviews or in his book that HE HIMSELF contacted authorities
          FBI, DoS, etc

          to WARN THEM about “suspicious activities related to Russians”?

          That definitely would be “game changing”

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      • He and Paul Ryan have both gone over to Fox News. Paul is now a board member, although Lou Dobbs still speaks ill of him, and Trey as a contributor to talk expertly on certain subjects when called.

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    • Perot Conservative says:

      And how about fire 50-100 FBI employees who Leaked and took Bribes from the press?

      Liked by 12 people

      • Baby El says:

        I’ve been watching this BS since the 90’s… Wrongdoing identified – investigation – then nothing.

        If this does finally cook off, I really want to see it go deep. From everything we’ve seen here at CTH, there are room for hundreds, or even a few thousand prosecutions.

        – Leaks, bribes, slow walks, embarrassing redactions, conspiracy,. FBI, DOJ, CIA, State, lame stream, social, and print media. UK, Aus, NZ.

        This is way beyond epic. Please let there be hangings.

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      • That could be done tomorrow morning. What a start to the week it could be.

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      • Burnt Toast says:

        Strip them of their clearances for character* issues then loan them to Border Patrol in Alaska at the NW Territory pending appeal.

        *No Secret, not even ‘confidential’ would keep them from doing much of anything beyond mopping floors at FBI, but what fun is mopping floors when they could be doing border patrol in snow shoes.

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    • Tl Howard says:

      I will ask again: Barr is the FBI Director Wray’s BOSS. He can order these docs produced, can’t he?

      Actually, they belong to the DOJ, don’t they?

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      • Dutchman says:

        I am not absolutely sure what the chain of command is, between A.G. and FBI director. Hoover would have wanted as much autonomy as possible,…so would his successor, Mueller.

        Certainly PDJT could fire Wray, but that means dealing with Mitch, on a replacement. PDJT presumably figures its not worth it.

        How much pressure Barr can put on Wray is unclear, as is how much Wray can obsfuscate.

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      • Rachel Guess says:

        TI Howard,

        From what I have read, the answer would be no.

        It has to go through a lengthy declassification process including numerous agencies before information can be declassified. Only the POTUS has something of a short cut on that, but even he has to jump through certain hoops before information can be released.

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        • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

          Search warrants and subpoenas are pretty good at getting documents………

          Document production and document declassification are 2 different animals

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  8. Kleen says:

    Papa-D said the 10k cash used to try to entrap him is being flown back to the US from Greece.

    Dan Bongino went to LA and shared a picture of him with Papa-D

    Bongino used to be a SS agent and worked on counterfeit cases and knows all about marked bills.

    Something is going on but are being secretive about it.

    Liked by 21 people

    • Justin Green says:

      That 10k is important evidence. SOMEONE had to sign for it, lol. One more little piece of evidence.

      Liked by 5 people

    • Lee Moore says:

      Papa D keeps on suggesting the bills may have been marked (ie the numbers noted) by the FBI before being used to try to catch him out. I’m afraid I can’t conceive of any reason why they would do that. They only thing that would prove is that they were running a sting. Why would they want tto create any evidence for that ?

      That particular bird is not gonna fly.

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      • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

        They wanted to hang a money laundering charge on him. They needed to arrest him for something to shut him up…as we have seen they did.

        Till now.

        Liked by 12 people

        • Sportyclays says:

          You’d think these FBI super spy shitbirds would be creative enough to pick a less obvious dollar amount…

          Liked by 5 people

          • Sherri Young says:

            Arrogance™ is a potent drug.

            Liked by 7 people

          • DJ says:

            It takes an undeclared 10 grand to create to create the sting. Under that amount is legal. The reason I saw for it not being an amount OVER 10 grand – and I have no idea if it is true – is that this was the max amount the “stingers” could appropriate w/o a whole lot of paper work and an even larger possibility of the sting being discovered.

            But, yes, the bills were “marked” or otherwise recorded in some way. Otherwise PoppaD could have blown a couple grand on wine, women and song and only brought back, say 8 grand – an amount under the limit. But if the money could be identified back to the source, then perhaps they could have tried to turn it into some sort of “accepting a bribe” situation. I don’t know if that would work, but there must have been some sort of plan for the fact that he might not bring back the entire 10 grand.

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      • Ready Steady Go says:

        Let me help you out with that. The goal was to get the month to pappy and then arrest him at Dulles with the Cash. They wanted to get him on money laundering. Now, did the FBI take it out of their own piggy bank? If they did, there would be a chain of custody. Remember, they want to appear like there are going by the book. Or did halper put up his own money making it untraceable? Hmm. They never thought they would get caught. So it’s possible they conducted it like a legitimate case and there could be a paper trail. I am guessing they used FBI money as they used halper and Turk so you want it to appear like a normal investigation. Otherwise, they have to explain who was the source of the Cash. Pappy and his attorney are both confirming witnesses. They have a lot of problems explain why they went off book for 10,000 if the operation was legit. This is a whole level of new problem.

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        • Lee Moore says:

          I’m sorry, I don’t understand. Which is to say I understand perfectly why they might want to plant $10,000 on him, so that they could catch him with it at Dulles. But I don’t understand why they would want to keep a record of the bills. All that would do is prove the money came from them, and so wasn’t anything to do with Russian spies or dodgy dealing by Papa D. Which would – if it ever got out – defeat the whole point of planting it on him.

          As for wanting to make planting on him look like a normal investigation, I’m struggling with that. Framing someone isn’t a normal investigation. You can’t do planting evidence on a mark “by the book” – it isn’t in the book in the first place.

          Now it’s conceivable – though unlikely – that the bills could be traced to the FBI. But that would just be bad execution, it wouldn’t be deliberate. Much more likely the money just came out of an Israeli bank, drawn by the guy who gave it to him. Any FBI or CIA reimbursement would go by a different route.

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        • farrier105 says:

          CIA has money stuffed everywhere. They run it through foundations like Soros’ foundations, they have proprietary companies, some of which run profits or used to launder money from other sources, etc. It was probably CIA money, not FBI money.

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        • Bill says:

          What would they have done if he declared the $10k? It’s my understanding that all he has to do is declare and then make sure he pays taxes on it with his quarterly estimated taxes. Then they would have had nothing. Something doesn’t add up.

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          • Amy2 says:

            I remember reading here (last week?) the George’s attorney said the bills were marked.

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          • Sherri Young says:

            If the person who handed the cash to PapaD and refused to take it back was ready to testify that he was working undercover in a money laundering investigation, marked (or recorded) bills may have been incriminating even if declared.

            Just thinking.

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      • emet says:

        If the numbers were not sequential, going to be a very long chain of custody.

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      • Krashman Von Stinkputin says:

        Don’t put it past them………this whole thing is KEYSTONE COPS…….

        “Chlld-like and naive” as Barr called it.

        I wouldn’t be surprised at all if they didn’t pull a Smollette and pay by check.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Whoever is bringing it in better declare it! Better yet, 2 couriers bringing 1/2, each.
      I think the reporting requirement is $10,000?
      It is for banks.

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  9. Brant says:

    It would have been helpful……, oh, nevermind. Or, as much as this timing is aggravating, I wonder if there have to be precise paths to travel. Maybe Sessions to lull everyone into sense of security. Sessions resigns. Interim AG. Mueller report said to be near complete. Barr nominated and confirmed. Barr uses the spying term and his recent interview. Left going nuts.

    Change the order of any of those and it doesn’t work.

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  10. Kleen says:

    George Papadopoulos Retweeted

    George Papadopoulos
    @GeorgePapa19
    ·
    20h
    Big week coming up!

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  11. SAM-TruthFreedomLiberty says:

    Not unexpected. But still big!
    Gowdy knows this since a long time??? Only reveals it now..
    Gowdy is getting ahead of something!

    This basically means Papa-D did go to prison for no good reason.
    Crazy how him going to prison actually will make it worse for them.
    I remember Papa-D pondering what to do before his prison time..

    This is cooking since a long time.
    BIG SCANDAL!

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    • Rhoda R says:

      One thing that going to prison did for him – he can now freely talk about what happened. If he had not gone it is entirely possible that the threat of prison would have kept or forced him mute.

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      • Sherri Young says:

        Dan Bongino was one of the first to interview PapaD in a long form. Bongino let PapaD do almost all of the talking. PapaD got to tell his story and Bongino let us hear it. Wow.

        Bongino’s listening skills must have served him well during his time in law enforcement. Besides that, since the interview was early and stunning, it must have set a standard for other people who have since interviewed PapaD. I personally have listened to two subsequent lengthy interviews in which PapaD was able to lay out his story in sequence with minimal interruptions by the hosts. Made for interesting listening.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Rhoda;
        Like say,….Flynn? Is THAT why they have kept Flynn in a very unusual limbo? Cause AFTER sentencing, he could talk?

        Thats a whole seperate case unraveling; Just as their have been so many ‘threads’to this story, that its difficult to keep them all straight, now that they are unraveling, its equally difficult to keep it all straight!

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  12. WeThePeople2016 says:

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  13. Dr.Jay says:

    That doesn’t sound that those transcripts are about Azra in September, he is talking about the period prior to opening of the investigation, prior to July 31.
    Woopsy?

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    • WSB says:

      Yes, and they had had those all of this time? Dry ice anger.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Direct some of that anger at Gowdy and the others who knew about this before hand. Why didn’t they say something THEN?

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        • Dr.Jay says:

          Ratcliffe did, even when speaking in hypotheticals (yeah right).
          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trey-gowdy-fbi-withheld-game-changer-transcript-material-from-fisa-court

          Gowdy said one still-secret transcript could be a bombshell. “I think one in particular is going, it has the potential to actually persuade people. Very little on this Russia probe, I’m afraid, is going to persuade people who hate Trump or love Trump. But there is some information in these transcripts that I think has the potential to be a game changer, if it’s ever made public,” he said.

          Gowdy agreed with Bartiromo’s suggestion that the FBI had concealed relevant details about Papadopoulos from the FISA court, echoing the concerns that Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, has been expressing for months. “Yeah, John Ratcliffe is rightfully exercised over the obligations the government has to tell the whole truth to a court when you are speaking permission to spy or do surveillance on an American,” Gowdy said. “And part of that includes the responsibility of providing exculpatory information or information that tends to show the person did not do something wrong.”

          “If you have exculpatory information and you don’t share it with the court, that ain’t good.” Gowdy added. “I’ve seen it, Johnny has seen it, I’d love for your viewers to see it.”

          In October 2018, Ratcliffe said he had seen all of these documents and calling for Trump to declassify them. “I can tell you, as a former federal prosecutor, my opinion is that declassifying them wouldn’t expose any national security information, wouldn’t expose any sources and methods,” Ratcliffe said. “It would expose certain folks at the Obama Justice Department and FBI and their actions and their actions taken to conceal material facts from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.”

          “The underlying pretext to the entire Trump-Russia investigation, is this idea that George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign associate, had a conversation with an Australian diplomat about getting Hillary Clinton’s e-mails from the Russians,” Ratcliffe continued. “Hypothetically, if the Department of Justice and the FBI has another piece of evidence that directly refutes, that directly contradicts that, what you would expect is for the Department of Justice to present both sides of the coin to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to evaluate the weight and sufficiency of that evidence.”

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          • farrier105 says:

            The first story about the start of the investigation was that it was the JULY 2016 trip to Moscow by Carter Page:

            “There was a reason why Trump and his allies worked so hard to distance themselves from Page toward the end of the election and into last year: He had come under scrutiny for traveling to Russia in July 2016, at the height of the election, ostensibly just to deliver a speech at Moscow’s New Economic School.”

            https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/carter-page-is-a-very-unlikely-gop-hero/570655/

            This idea that Carter Page was the start of the investigation was originally published in the New York Times, which seems to be the Deep State organ for making public claims about when the investigation began.

            “The disclosure is the latest to shed light on Mr. Page’s extensive contacts with Russian businessmen and government officials. A former Moscow-based investment banker for Merrill Lynch, Mr. Page joined the Trump campaign last year and traveled to Russia in July to deliver a speech to the New Economic School, a Moscow university.

            The trip caught the attention of United States intelligence agencies. Later that month, the F.B.I. opened a counterintelligence investigation into Russian attempts to influence the presidential election and whether any of Mr. Trump’s associates were involved in that effort. American businessmen who visit Russia, even those who are not advising a presidential campaign, are frequently targeted by Russian operatives trying to collect information about the United States.”

            Note that the TIMES is telling us that the FBI Counterintelligence investigation was opened in JULY 2016 because of CARTER PAGE and his trip to Moscow. That was the FIRST PREDICATE for the investigation.

            The next New York Times article from December of the same year now claims it was the ALEXANDER DOWNER meeting that started the counterintelligence investigation. Same paper/ two different versions of the predicate. BIG PROBLEM NOW. Only problem is, Joe Sixpack and Jane Soccermom need to be convinced that this is a problem for the government. That will be hard to do since they have not been paying much attention.

            The TIMES is the official paper for recording the changing FBI predicates. Apparently there are more since the latest version suggests other predicates along with Georgie Porgie Papadopoulos.

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            • bertdilbert says:

              The 702 audit started March 9, Page started working for the Trump campaign in March. Would be interesting what the exact date in March that Page entered into Trump campaign. Page’s ‘claim to fame was delivering binders with microphones to the Russians..

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              • farrier105 says:

                I tweeted Victoria Toensing about that since Papadopoulos was first contacted by Mifsud on March 14, 2016, but the list of Trump foreign policy advisors was not made public until March 21, 2016. Sam Clovis was a client of Ms. Toensing, so I’m hoping I can get some background on when the list was completed, discussions about it as it was compiled, and who had “need to know.” No answer yet. Could indicate mole in Trump campaign working sometime prior to March 2016.

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            • farrier105 says:

              Carter Page is mentioned throughout the STEELE DOSSIER, but George Papadopoulos is never mentioned in the dossier. This is the likely reason for the change from Carter Page as the predicate for the counterintelligence investigation to George Papadopoulos.

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        • CNN_sucks says:

          They could not. SC was in place. Nunez was frozen, too. Probably TGowdy is compromise. Not his hill to die for. Other words, coward.

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        • WSB says:

          This is just outlandish! Time to have Gowdy testify to his own obstruction of justice!

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        • Wit's End says:

          Timing

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  14. The purpose of the FISA warrant was not to listen in on Goofball Carter Page. The real objective was that FISA Title I surveillance “second hop” – the communications between Trump and everyone he is in contact with.

    Are Wray and Coats still listening in on Trump’s communications?

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    • WSB says:

      I am wondering the very same thing…

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    • Maquis says:

      Actually, the two-hop scheme implies a second and third hop from the initial target, very expansive.

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    • dwpender says:

      IF there were FISA warrants on Manafort (before he left the campaign) and/or Flynn BEFORE the Page warrant, why would the “small group” need Page to spy on Trump?
      Manafort and/or Flynn spying would catch many direct communications with Trump, and easily get there with one hop. We’ll have to wait to see what and other warrants (if any) there were (and when issued) in order to sort this all out.

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      • Dr.Jay says:

        Because if you have just a single FISA warrant you can’t spy beyond the target. You are limited to his/her communcations and the other parties (1 hop) need to be minimized.

        HOWEVER, if you have a Title 1 FISA and you can prove a conspiracy (say by having yet another FISA (Page) and claiming a conspiracy (as they did in Carte Page’s warrant), the you may need to go beyond the 1 hop to two hops and unmask Americans involved.

        Just read the statute on this, focus on the ‘need to understand the nature and extent of the conspiracy’ or similar words.

        Simply put: ONE is limited, TWO related = conspiracy. And provide cover to do surveillance anyone up to two hops away from either of the two FISA targets… which is most of the Trump campaign in this case.

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      • Linda K. says:

        dwpender, you are right. If they had a warrant on Manafort or Flynn, they wouldn’t need Page or PapaD. Unless more is better. But they were using PapaD and Page to try and plant evidence of Russian collusion into Trump’s campaign. Maybe Flynn and Manafort were getting them nowhere.

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    • spoogels says:

      Didnt someone recently tweet Dan Coats is an Insider spy?

      1. Who is the TRAITOR in the White House?
      [THREAD]
      Who is the Traitor who has been conspiring all along against President Trump, and still conspiring?

      and what is worrying, is that this TRAITOR is still in charge today…

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  15. FL_GUY says:

    I have hope that FINALLY, FINALLY, the Weissman and Mueller frame machine is shut down and they receive a long, long prison sentence for fraud and abuse of power.

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  16. ristvan says:

    If there are exculpatory transcripts, then either there was wiretapping or someone wearing a wire. In neither case could there have been a warrant, because there was at that time no substance on Papadop to present to FISA. Means a rogue CIA operation overseas. Brennan is toast.

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  17. BigTalkers says:

    Yeah, a great example of Mr Cya Gowdy in a belated attempt to remain relevant.

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  18. Greg1 says:

    Why does it seem Gowdy has such a history of flip flopping on all of this if he’s seen exculpatory evidence?

    How does one know when to take him seriously?

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  19. youme says:

    I wonder what Brady material, if any, was requested by George Papadopoulos’ attorney.

    The government is obligated to disclose all exculpatory evidence to the defense. There are no exceptions.

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  20. litenmaus says:

    Gina Haspel has an opportunity to clean out an organization that went rogue and be a legendary American heroine. What will she make of the opportunity?

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  21. Just something to keep in mind going forward (and if my info is wrong as it applies to this, let me know). Whoever prepares the actual application for these FISA warrants is the affiant. The other three or four superiors who then sign off up the chain are not necessarily responsible for the veracity of its contents, but are acknowledging and approving that they are aware of what’s going on as far as how the overall case is progressing (Rosenstein touched on this during one of his appearances before Congress).

    Everyone who signs off on the warrant application are Officers of the Court and are assumed to be attesting truthfully, but the onus for the actual details of the basis as contained and “VERIFIED” in the application falls on the guy who put the thing together (Strzok et. al.).

    The point I’m trying to make is that those up the chain who signed off (Comey, Yates, Rosenstein etc.) may skate on this aspect because they have the defense of claiming that they were given false information and lied to by another inferior Officer of the Court.

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    • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

      “I’m not the affiant” :Rat Rosenberg
      It’s my hope the underlings throw under the bus don’t take it lying down.

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    • Baby El says:

      “I am not the affiant”..
      Is this like the superior blaming an underling for the error? As the person signing the application, Rosendirt has the responsibility to be reasonably assured the information is accurate. He can’t claim ignorance for falsehoods he should have known or suspected.

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      • farrier105 says:

        “I am not the affiant”.

        This is a matter of Agency Law. Rosenstein relied on Strzok and the rest of the mob to tell him the truth. However, Rosenstein is responsible for oversight of his agent, Strzok. If signing off without any DUE DILIGENCE on Roddy Boy’s part, which is a key principle in agency law, Rosenstein is guilty of NEGLIGENCE. Rosenstein is not off the hook by blaming the guy who filled out the paperwork, and, if he was involved in any scheme, he could be ratted out anyway.

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        • farrier105 says:

          I kind of forgot here, but this matter of agency law and supervisory DUE DILIGENCE is important since we are dealing with altered investigative reports in this matter, are we not? Someone conducts and interview, or finds evidence and documents it. The paper flows uphill through Squad Supervisor, etc., each one exercising editorial authority over the paperwork, such as FD-302 reports. This is part of the due diligence process to ensure that the investigative work of the agent submitting the paperwork is reasonably accurate and complete. “Reasonably” meaning the supervisor performed DUE DILIGENCE over the work product submitted. As we have seen, this due diligence process can also be used to illicitly alter the work product instead of a reasonable attempt to ensure accuracy and completeness.

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    • Tom H says:

      Unless it can be shown to be a conspiracy…then they all go down. Proof is difficult; they will need to squeeze Strzok. Plus they can show (at least ) that Comey knew that the contents of the FISA application was BS. More proof of conspiracy.

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    • Honest Abbey says:

      If the superiors who sign off on the FISA warrants aren’t liable for the veracity of its contents, then why are their signatures even necessary?

      Oftentimes, the signatories assume liability, including the consequences of being an ignorant participant.

      Even if they ALL plead STUPID, I don’t think it will be to their benefit this time. [Keeping fingers crossed]

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    • Ready Steady Go says:

      Well they do have a problem. Comey and the affiants knew the dossier was unverified. They also knew it was illegal and against woods procedures to include unverified material. They were also denied early fisa warrants without the dossier. so the dossier tipped the scale to get the successful fisa warrants. Ergo the knowingly used unverified material to get a fisa that they could not get with other ” evidence”. Rosey is interesting. Did he set up his own affiants? Before he signed the fisa he would have been briefed. Are there notes or recordings of that meeting??? Who briefed Rosey and what did they tell him? In his Congressional testimony he clearly stated that what has been reported and what he was told were different. Rosy covered himself and put the affiant in harm’s way. Brilliant play.

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    • Concernedcitizen says:

      Yes, the affiant (Strzok?) is the one on the hook because he swears before the Judge that the information in the affidavit is true. However, if Strzok rolls on Comey, McCabe, Yates etc. by revealing that they were aware that he was swearing to a false affidavit. then we have a criminal conspiracy to violate Carter Page’s civil rights under color of law.

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      • bjackson says:

        Bingo!!! Title 18, USC , subsection 242

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      • Burnt Toast says:

        What’s the statute of limitations on this?

        Until NeverTrump Congress shuts there yaps about there still being something there, the effects of the conspiracy are ongoing, and will be ongoing until the conspirators are convicted of come clean to everyone’s satisfaction…

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  22. rmnewt says:

    I still dont understand that if the Russians or anyone else had “dirt” on Hillary that could sway the election, wouldnt they (the FBI and IC) ask what it is and is it true? If the dirt was true then it would put Hillary and more importantly the US in a very vulnerable position when she was elected.
    They admit the pee dossier is fabricated, yet have had no problem using it and spreading that story to weaken our Nation via POTUS. It sure would be telling if the Hillary dirt and ghost emails that are true actually come out.

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    • Redzone says:

      rmnewt- you’re being way too logical and assuming these players are honest.

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      • rmnewt says:

        perhaps, but there are some very good investigative people and organizations out there that haven’t brought this up ….yet.
        Wouldn’t you just love to hear someone like Comey answer this question. OK, maybe not, I get nauseous just listening to him and his self righteous drivel.

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  23. JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

    I would encourage everyone to watch this video of Lt Col Tony Schaffer discussing authority protocols for FBI sending human intel against AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    This whole charade SHOULD scare every American. Unfortunately, the Neo-Marxist are redefining what that is.

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    • Mark Wauck says:

      I watched it the other day. It’s excellent. Shaffer exhibits IMO the best understanding for how the Intel Community works that I’ve seen in readily available commentary so far.

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      • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

        He worked inside the belly of the beast. The DIA tried to destroy him because he blew the whistle on them for their lapses with Able Danger.
        He’s no tick tocker. A real American Hero.

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    • Coast says:

      This guy needs to be part of Barr’s team.

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    • Annie says:

      great interview….

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    • CM-TX says:

      What I got from this seeming most important… that Candidate Trump as a US Citizen, & his campaign (also seen as a citizen)– should have been notified that George P. a/o Carter Paige were suspected of being foreign agents. There is no way of getting around this detail in cases of a counter-intel investigation.

      So once Candidate Trump or his campaign were in some way approached by GP or CP, the FB¡ then becomes obligated to inform him as an Am. Citizen, of who that person might be, & any potential threat.

      That PDJT was NOT, thus protocol ignored– further gives the impression that there was no proper, or existing counter-intel investigation being conducted on CP/GP (initially).
      That in fact, it was a case of the FB¡ attempting to CREATE the circumstances that would necessitate the conditions needed for one to be started.

      Further, it looks as though they were already surveilling them, & then resorted to using entrapment schemes overseas to accomplish opening any counter-intel investigations (after-the-fact).

      And while FB¡ is primarily a Domestic LE agency, abroad operations do happen– but not without a lot of high-up, red-tape, prior authorizations.

      But at whatever point those “investigations” began, PDJT/campaign should’ve been briefed. Hence why they still cling to the Russian ties narrative.

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      • 1hear2learn says:

        They’ll claim they couldn’t inform Trump because he was “asking the Russians” in his rallies for Hillary’s 32,000 lost emails. Absurd, yes, but this is the ridiculousness we’re in – or were in…

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  24. Genie says:

    Bless your heart, Trey. Do also tell us about Strzok’s September 10, 2016 text “there are VERY inflammatory things in the 302s we didn’t turn over to [Congress]…that are going to come out in FOIA and absolutely inflame Congress.”

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  25. Sparky5253 says:

    Begs the question as to why Gowdy didn’t reveal this months ago and any other pertinent info he has. Were it not for AG Barr, this would be Benghazi all over again. Growdy was a high paid place holder doing the bidding of his donors. I am not holding my breathe waiting for any indictments, let alone perp walks.

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    • Proud American from Texas says:

      Until interim AG and/or new AG (Barr) were in place, what effect would there have been if Gowdy had made this known? Rosenstein could have brushed this off pretty easily.
      Now, AG Barr will not/can not ignore. I think that is what has the Dems so “exercised”.
      Not taking Gowdy’s side, just asking the question.

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  26. ann says:

    I’ve never understood the contorted logic of assigning blame to Americans, or Russia for :
    1. Hillary Clinton’s years of intell breaches
    2 the total failure of natsec/counterintell to promptly detect and stop the breaches.

    The DoJ ignores findings incongruent with obsessing about Russia,, as if we are a sequestered jury which is not allowed to consider facts the DoJ deems inadmissible.

    Did we put the Bureau in charge of determining reality?

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  27. rmramerica says:

    House cleaning? Gina Haspel? Wray? And Horiwitz and the IG Report? You really think people will suddenly come clean? I very much doubt it. My mind is still in Missouri. I expect the IG report to be somewhat disappointing. IG only reports on evidence that is conclusive and fact based. He does not indict. This only begins to end when there are indictments and people consider coping a plea. Carlin or Simpson, if they were to turn, then maybe some people could finally be held responsible. Other than that, this is just theatre and a lot of noise. What are the odds anything is discovered before the election? British bookies would like to know.

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  28. dwpender says:

    I hope they can locate this “Azra Turk.” After George joined the campaign, he was acosted by several “honeypots” — courtesy of what then passed for the Government of our Republic, with assistance from our “allies.” Although George was not impressed with some of the “lures,” he described Azra as “very beautiful.” Let’s get her in for some public testimony.

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  29. Perot Conservative says:

    February 06, 2019

    Mueller hauled before secret FISA court to address FBI abuses in 2002, Congress told

    BY JOHN SOLOMON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

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  30. Mark Wauck says:

    Is it too soon to be asking, Is there a prosecutive theory that fits the Russia Hoax? A lot of conservatives are frustrated that treason and sedition are probably too legally limited to fit the facts of the Russia Hoax, and think that Barr may have to go with nickel dime feeling “false statement” type charges. At the link I argue that that’s not necessarily so. There may be a legal path to prosecution of the overall conspiracy that involves a rather delicious turning of the table.

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    • Dr.Jay says:

      Even multiple false statements done by multiple people in a conspiracy is:
      Multiple federal crimes from the limited list
      Any such crimes, when more than one are done by multiple people in an organized way means: RICO charges.

      And they have much more than just false statements, lying to the court, corruption, leaking of classified information…. Some of those crimes do not fall under RICO, but several of them do.

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      • Mark Wauck says:

        The only two predicate crimes that I see that fall under RICO are fraud and obstruction of justice. You need a minimum of two predicate crimes for RICO, so my thinking is that RICO could be difficult to apply to the entire group of conspirators. Read my blog–I find it a more elegant legal solution, and more “adequate” (h/t Bill Barr) because it addresses the substance of the conspiracy head on.

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        • Dutchman says:

          Mark,
          My understanding is when you charge 2 or more with Conspiracy, every affirmative act which furthers th conspiracy can be a seperate charge.

          So, plenty of individual felony charges, in order to invoke rico?

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          • Mark Wauck says:

            Right, but with the Fraud against the USG, no restrictions. And there are not, IMO, plenty of individual felony charges available. Check out the list of predicate offenses and then ask yourself–which would realistically apply? Tx.

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  31. Treehugger says:

    Again every time I see laughmans photo I think of Christine Blasey ford set up

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  32. burnett044 says:

    Gowdy huh….one would have never guessed a rooster could wear flip-flops

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  33. k4jjj says:

    Trey Gowdy had a moral and ethical duty to at least go to the judge in the Papadopoulos case.

    Contrast Gowdy, the weasel, with Admiral Mike Rogers who went to Trump Tower to warn the incoming President.

    There is no excuse for a sitting member of congress AND an experienced prosecutor to hide what he knew when it could have made a huge difference to George P. Even publicly divulging the exonerating evidence would have been justified to keep an innocent man’s life from being destroyed. Gowdy, if he had any courage, could have DARED the Department of Justice to put him on public trial for divulging classified secrets when those secrets were hiding a monumental injustice and probably multiple federal felonies.

    What we are short of in America are moral heroes like Admiral Rogers. Gowdy is as bad as anyone engaged in this conspiracy. Sins of omission, when you can stop an injustice, are every bit as bad as sins of commission.

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    • It seems like Jordan and Nunes spoke of exonerating evidence about a year ago, but only Gowdy saw it.

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    • InAz says:

      k4jjj
      👍

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Gowdy is as bad as anyone engaged in this conspiracy.

      That’s an irrational statement. The severity of the Gowdy-bashing here is completely out of line. I understand that many of you are no fans of his, I totally get it. But when it comes to Spygate he’s been more of an ally than a foe. The same is true of Graham. Sundance mentions Gowdy’s quick response to Horowitz’ first report … if you read it you’ll see he completely trashes the traitors, it’s the best response he could have given, so I don’t understand why there is any criticism of him for that.

      Some of the Senators and Representatives have seen classified info and they are not allowed to repeat it. Ratcliffe has apparently also seen the same evidence that Gowdy has seen but I don’t see any of you bashing Ratcliffe.

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  34. Rhoda R says:

    One minor thing that surprises me about this mess is that the conspirators didn’t try to dirty up Adm Rodgers. Who has kept a very low profile.

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  35. Curt says:

    We know that the exculpatory evidence is going to absolutely clear Papadopoulos and front out the FBI as lying about what information they had. Wray knows that the FBI is culpable and exposed here, and being the DC swamp rat that he is, will cover this up any way he can. The level of frustration for those of us who want full disclosure is horrendous. This is sickening. “The insufferable transparency of controlled opposition (UniParty intents) shows again.” This quote says it all! I wonder why Trump has not declassified, at least, some of the classified documents? Would Barr have asked him to hold off pending their investigation?

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    • Tl Howard says:

      Geo.P’s “big week” just might be that he knows the exculpatory evidence clearing him is coming out this week.

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    • I believe the DOJ under AG Barr is working very close with the White House now that the Mueller cabal is over. I also think after AG Barr clears out the corruption in the DOJ/FBI and IC he is going to do the same with corrupt members of Congress.

      Me thinks they all know it and that is why Wray, Coates, Haspel, et all are dragging their feet. Politicos are doing likewise and they all know if PDJT is defeated – everything ends.
      If, Lord forbid, he is impeached and removed from office 99% of it would go away under Pence.

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  36. Self-preservation is Gowdy’s number 1 priority. Second is accumulating data/info/dirt to be saved for a “rainy day” if needed. His last priority is justice. He’s all yak and no shack.

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  37. gary says:

    why isn’t gowdy screaming at the top[ of his lungs about the evidence? mystifying.

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  38. Barnestormer says:

    The end of the clip has Maria B. saying, “Jim Comey calls it the Crown material.” Papadopoulos and other assorted internet sleuths are confident the reference is to Arvinder Sambei, the former “Crown Prosecutor” (for England and Wales IIRC), who set GP up as director of a shell offshoot of the International Center for Law Practice in London, and maneuvered him to Mifsud at the Link Campus in Rome.

    Sambei is a shadowy, partially U.S. trained (Yale) international lawyer of sorts, who has insinuated herself (himself? “Arvinder” roughly translates to “John” ) into any number of trials, investigations and other intrigues involving suspected terrorists and foreign agents, and has been involved in the prosecution of cases where convictions were overturned due to manufactured evidence.

    Her/his M.O. is ultra low profile, sometimes altering the spelling of her name, but she is connected through dozens of organizations (real and straw) and countries to every Western spook of any prominence, and has a history with Mueller.

    It’s a good bet that where Spygate went offshore, Sambei played a major role.

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  39. nccosmiccurmudgeon says:

    So between our Beloved Mensheviks having selective bouts of “morality” in disclosing suggestions that they have seen evidence that would have shut down the “Russian Matter” right from the start combined with the renewed reporting on “Obama’s Database” so eloquently described by Ms. Waters in 2013 (AKA Operation Hammer); I believe that we as a country must decide what it is worth to “drain this swamp”.

    I think Sundance has touched on this previously, and took a bit of grief over his opinion. Yes, exposing the depth of this “New World Order Plan” will certainly take us back to Bush41 at least; if not to LBJ himself. Our faith in our Government may well be quite damaged. And most assuredly, many foreign governments, both “friend” and foe alike, will make concentrated efforts to take advantage of our momentary vulnerabilities.

    But in the long term, if we truly desire that a United States of America continues to exist and thrive on the foundations laid down by the founders, as imperfect as they may have been, then we have no other choice but to make public the multitude of misdeeds, Constitutional transgressions, and seditious behaviors that have been committed over the years that have led to our current circumstance. Included in that list would also be individuals like Mr. Gowdy that claim to have evidence of the wrongdoing but did not present it.

    Let us all hope that the Jury Box will prevail in the end rather than the Cartridge Box.

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  40. jmclever says:

    All this time and I still feel like the guy in the bathtub in The Truman Show.

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  41. JoD says:

    Thanks for the tip, Harold.

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  42. Gary Lacey says:

    Giddy-up howdy, Bartiromo knows the ends and outs of the corrupt scheme perpetrated on Trump and Administration.
    Glad to see someone in the MSM gets it….Sharyl Attkisson too!

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  43. California Joe says:

    Howdy Gowdy is the perfect political barometer and knows exactly which way the wind is blowing!

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  44. James says:

    I support Trey Gowdy but isn’t he revealing classified info?

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  45. splat! says:

    In addition to swearing to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, his lawyer’s oath contains the following: I will assist the defenseless or oppressed by ensuring that justice is available to all citizens and will not delay any person’s cause for profit or malice. (See scbar.org oath)

    Seems to me that Mr. Gowdy has broken that oath, if he did not communicate in some way to PapaD’s attorneys that this evidence existed.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Then what about Ratcliffe? Gowdy says Ratcliffe has also seen the evidence. Why not bash him too? Do you know when they saw this evidence? All of the Gowdy-bashers are assuming he saw it while he was still in government. Well maybe he saw it recently. Do we know? Gowdy didn’t reveal that fact in the interview, did he?

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  46. Dutchman says:

    So, put aside all the outrage, for a second, to consider this, ‘compare and contrast’;
    Obama hires/promotes the ‘3 idiots’, Comey, Clapper, Brennan to the top positions for U.S. Intelligence.

    Meanwhile, CANDIDATE Trump campaign ‘hires’ as a very low level advisor, a 28 y.o. kid who is SMART enough to figure out that running a pipeline through Turkey is a bad idea (supported by Obama admin), smart enough to NOT fall for the ‘honey traps’ or bring the $ back to U.S. or even spend it.

    Quite striking, when you think about it!
    Just goes to show you, in ANY Organisation, the person at the Top sets the tone!

    Excellence, even at lower levels, vs. Mediocrity at the highest levels.

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  47. bkrg2 says:

    Hey Trey, why don’t you wait two years to start letting Americans know the truth

    Im really starting to hate this guy

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  48. Magabear says:

    Would’ve been nice of Gowdy to stick around in congress and help his buddy Ratcliffe out with this mess if he’s so exercised about it. Then again, considering his so-so performance in congress, maybe it’s better he’s on cable TV.

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  49. covfefe999 says:

    A lot of you love to bash Gowdy. Well Gowdy says Ratcliffe has also seen it, why are you not bashing Ratcliffe? And when did they see this material? Gowdy doesn’t say, but some of you are assuming he saw it a year or two years ago and never did anything with it. Well then neither did any of the other people who saw it. Maybe they saw it recently. If it’s classified they aren’t supposed to talk about it, right? It seems like the desire to trash Gowdy is so strong it becomes almost irrational. I think people need to ratchet down the emotion level a few notches, emotion is clouding rational thought. Stop hating and just assess the facts as they come out. Instead of bashing Gowdy why not discuss the ramifications of exculpatory evidence on Papadopoulos’ case? Can he re-plea or have his case thrown out? Can we assume Barr has this info?

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    • Julian says:

      Is that you Trey? Mrs. Gowdy?

      Must be at least a dozen posts of yours sticking up for the Roosterhead.

      Do you recall what Hillary was doing through Benghazi? Running guns to Syrian Islamist rebels – ie ISIS & Al-Qaeda. Remember September 11?

      Gowdy could have exposed this illegality on the floor of Congress about the US running guns to AL-QAEDA.

      Did he though? NO. Unforgivable and spat on the graves of 3,000 Americans that died at their hands.

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