“Unofficial Channels” – Reconciling Mueller’s Strategically Worded Origin of Operation Crossfire Hurricane…

Early May 2016

After the third reading of the strategically worded Weissmann/Mueller report, we are able to reconcile some issues. This outline reconciles the oddly worded Weissmann/Mueller claim to the origin of the FBI counterintelligence operation known as “crossfire hurricane” on July 31st, 2016.

It must be first noted that Devin Nunes has outlined the two-page “Electronic Communication” or “EC” from CIA Director John Brennan to FBI Director James Comey was not from official intelligence channels. Meaning the intelligence used to originate Crossfire Hurricane did not come through officials Five-Eyes intelligence communication.

When we reviewed the documents recently released by the Australian government, there was a disparity between the dates of George Papadopoulos meeting Australia’s High Commissioner Alexander Downer. The Weissmann report seemed to put the meeting as May 6th, 2016, but Papadopoulos and Downer (Australian docs) put the London meeting on May 10th.

Here’s the excerpt from Special Counsel Weissmann/Mueller report that describes the events.  Note Weissmann assigns a meeting date of May 6th, 2016:

[Page #89, Muller Report]

The paragraphs and the footnote direct the reader to assume a meeting between Papadopoulos and Downer on May 6th, and later the communication from Downer on July 26th, as the impetus for Crossfire Hurricane.  However, there’s some strategic conflation in the presentation because Downer and Papadopoulos didn’t meet until May 10th.

Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller carefully word the paragraphs because they don’t want the background of the May 6th, 2016, event attached to western intelligence.

Sneaky.

When Weissmann/Mueller write: “On May 6th, 2016, 10 days after that meeting with Mifsud, Papadopoulos suggested to a representative of a foreign government“… they are not writing about Alexander Downer.

They are writing about an aide to Downer, Erika Thompson.

As noted in Papadopoulos’ book:

After meeting with Downer’s aide, Erika Thompson on May 6th, she sets up a meeting between George Papadopoulos and her boss for May 10th.  The meeting is put on the official schedule for the Australian Ambassador to the U.K:

[Note in the meeting schedule the dates/times are listed in both Australian and U.K. time zones.]  On May 10th, 2016, Ms Erika Thompson and Mr. Alexander Downer then meet with George Papadopoulos.

After the meeting, Ambassador Downer reports back to the Australian government on his conversation with Papadopoulos. [As noted in the recent document release]:

The details of the conversation, and how Alexander Downer viewed the information from Papadopoulos is heavily redacted.  Essentially, he writes out what the Trump foreign policy seems to be from the perspective of George Papadopoulos.  This would be typical for any government to assemble the views and perspectives of a potential presidential nominee.

Additionally, Downer was a major supporter of Bill and Hillary Clinton; but in general terms, any personal bias is irrelevant for the purposes of outlining information from the Trump campaign that might be useful later on in understanding how the relationship between Australia and the U.S. might evolve.

As noted in the Weissmann/Mueller report, it is from this May 10th, 2016, meeting where  later communication from Ambassador Downer, July 26th, 2016, is referenced as the origin of Crossfire Hurricane.  However, here’s where it gets interesting.  Notice how Mueller presents the May 6th conversation as confirmation of the information from Joseph Mifsud, and not May 10th.

Weissmann and Mueller are saying the information: “that the Trump campaign had received information from the Russian government that it could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton”, came from Erika Thompson on May 6th, 2016.

Weissmann/Mueller are NOT saying that information came from Alexander Downer, despite the connection to the footnote that now appears to be intentionally conflating the origin of their claim.  They are “technically” saying the information came from Erika Thompson.

This makes sense, because Downer has denied that Papadopoulos ever brought up anything about Clinton “dirt”, or Clinton emails with him in the May 10th meeting.

Now the origin of this set-up takes on a new understanding.

Remember, a large portion of the CIA’s foreign agents work overseas as members of various U.S. embassies.  The U.S. State Department is the cover for a lot of CIA work; reference the “Benghazi Consulate” etc.

Rather than keep writing “U.S. intelligence officers”, and/or “U.S. intelligence assets”, let us just use the word “spies” to make things more honest and easier to understand.

Also consider “unofficial channels” as useful to a set-up; and “official channels” as part of a needed legitimacy for this operation.

George Papadopoulos was contacted by two members of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA),Terrence Dudley and Greg Baker, working out of the U.S. embassy in London.  Two American spies working in London put Papadopoulos in contact with their ally/counterpart in the Australian Embassy, Erika Thompson. [ie. ‘unofficial channels’]

Erika Thompson takes it from there… and sets up the meeting with Alexander Downer which will later be used to take an ‘unofficial channel’ and turn it into an ‘official channel’.

Now, which one did the CIA/FBI use: “unofficial” or “official”?   For the answer look at what Weissmann and Mueller say in their report.

The May 6th, 2016, Erika Thompson’s unofficial channel is cited for the quotation as to what Papadopoulos was claimed to have said…. as Papadopoulos is referencing information from Maltese Professor Joseph Mifsud, another unofficial channel.

See how that set-up was played?

And then there’s this:

The FBI Director of Counterintelligence, Bill Priestap, just happened to be in London on the exact same dates the ‘unofficial’ operation was happening… Now things really come into focus.

Remember, this is all happening in May, long before the official launch of the “official” FBI counterintelligence operation known as Crossfire Hurricane, July 31st, 2016.

What happens two days after Crossfire Hurricane is launched? …back to London: On August 2, 2016, Special Agent Peter Strzok and another agent at the Federal Bureau of Investigation met with Alexander Downer in London to discuss his conversation with Papadopoulos further. Strzok then received reading materials, which he texted about to Lisa Page.

Now does this make sense (April 2018):

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384 Responses to “Unofficial Channels” – Reconciling Mueller’s Strategically Worded Origin of Operation Crossfire Hurricane…

  1. Johnny says:

    The devil is in the details. I feel the big ugly building steam.

    Bring on the zippo lighter, please.

    Liked by 6 people

  2. Johnny says:

    The unofficial channels used to aide our corrupt government in the attempted unofficial coupe of the elected President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.

    We have Sedition, Treason, and for all intent and purposes an act of war, in the attempt to topple our elected government.

    Get The Rope!

    Liked by 16 people

    • Marygrace Powers says:

      Hang em HIGH/
      force media coverage.

      Hanging was chosen
      for treason – the reason/
      DETERENCE.

      Liked by 1 person

      • Marygrace Powers says:

        Deterrence Law and Legal Definition –

        Deterrence refers to the act of discouraging or preventing something. For example, in criminal law, the punishments assigned to the commission of crimes are designed to prevent criminals from committing the acts out of a fear of punishment. In order to be effective, the deterrer must have the capability and the will to carry out the threat, and the threat must be communicated to and understood by the potential perpetrator.

        Do we have the will to carry out the punishment for TREASON?

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    • dbobway says:

      Anything less than treason is a miscarriage of justice to 63 million American voters, 85% of every county in the United States.
      Thousands of people have threatened my life as a ninth generation American citizen with hundreds in my family serving my country in the military. They have declared war on me. As a devout Christian and a Patriot of our Republic, I stand down as my country is being poisoned from within.
      Why do I stand down? Because I staunchly believe in our form of government.
      If and only if, I see there is no alternative, I will stand and give my life for my freedom and my children’s future.
      The most conservative estimate, is there are between 20 and 30 million citizens, I stand with. Diligent, caring humanitarians who value life and liberty over all. We are here to protect our families and our country from tyranny. We will not give up our liberty.
      We have had it too long. It is a large part of who we are. No shell game or insentient lies or pied pipers will deter us from defending liberty with our lives.
      If you are brave enough to cross that line, we will be here to greet you.
      For we want the same thing, Freedom and peace.

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  3. Akindole says:

    I bet Brennan, Clapper and Comey can’t guess why I’m posting this…
    (Hi guys…)
    :::wink, wink:::

    Liked by 8 people

    • loisplane says:

      Time to. . . . . say goodbye. . . .

      Liked by 1 person

    • SJM says:

      Bravissimo, maestro!!!
      Il messaggio è nessun dorma !!!….None shall sleep !!!!

      Liked by 3 people

    • loisplane says:

      Time to. . . say goodbye . . . .

      Liked by 1 person

    • woohoowee says:

      Molto bello 🙂

      Liked by 1 person

    • noswamp says:

      Akindole,
      Thanks for the Bocelli vid. One of my favorite singer of all time.
      And yes, I know why you posted this:
      “When the dawn comes, we win, we win.”

      Liked by 1 person

    • margarite1 says:

      My God!!!! Impossible to describe in mere words…

      Liked by 1 person

    • ladyliberty11 says:

      Thank you for this beautiful song; just played it for my 99-year-old Mother who is dying and will be gone by Easter. Bless you.

      Brennan, Comey and Clapper, et al., based on their evil deeds. will be long forgotten by history.

      As they chorus sings: “No one will know his name
      And we, alas, will have to die, to die!”

      Brennan, Comey, Clapper, and all of the treasonous members of the evil cabal who tried to overthrow our duly elected President will only be remembered as traitors to their country, their names soon forgotten in the sands of time. while the hero they tried to bring down, President Donald J. Trump, will be celebrated as one of the greatest men of our time.

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    • Bill W. says:

      None shall sleep None shall sleep! None shall sleep! Even you, Oh Princess, in your virginal room, watch the stars watch the stars that trembling with love and hope! But my secret is hidden within me, None will know my name! Oh no, On your mouth I will say it when daylight shines forth! And my kiss will dissolve the silence that makes you mine! No one will know his name… and we will have to, alas, die, die! Vanish, oh night! Set you stars! Set you stars! At dawn, I will win! I will win! I will win

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  4. TwoLaine says:

    I’ve asked all along, What was Priestap doing in London?!!!!! Now we know.

    He had just put a wrap on the language for the completion of the MYE (ILLary’s matter).

    Liked by 10 people

  5. AmericaFirst says:

    If everything they wrote had to be carefully written to hide the truth while pretending to present what happened – obliquely – then we know why it took them two years to finish the report.

    Liked by 14 people

    • Sentient says:

      Barr should indict Weissmann and Mueller for conspiracy.

      Liked by 8 people

      • Tl Howard says:

        You bet. I hope someone has pointed him to the archives of this blog. How in the world can Barr be expected to know all this stuff unless there’s a small group of good guys in the FBI and the DOJ who’ve been putting all the pieces together for the last two and half or three years.

        Liked by 6 people

      • FrankieZee says:

        I am starting to get the feeling that Barr is going to go above and beyond what we all first expected. You could tell by his reactions at the press conference on Thursday. Never poke a sleeping bear.

        Liked by 1 person

    • graphiclucidity says:

      It took them two years to write this report because they spent eighteen months trying to provoke the president into firing somebody or into commitng some other act (FISA declass) that would qualify as obstruction of justice.

      Rosenstein, Mueller & Wiessman, LLP left the trap open as long as they possibly could. The SWATing of Roger Stone arrest was the final provocation.

      When that pathetic attempt failed it was all over, because…

      Trump & Barr, USG made a hostile takeover of their firm and closed down the shop.

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  6. Gee – the dynamic duo of Mueller & Weissmann slipped up? I wonder how many more are in that report that AG Barr will “evaluate”?

    Liked by 7 people

    • Tom22ndState says:

      Hell, two pages in they conclude that the Russians remotely hacked Clinton’s server in summer of 2016. It’s certain to me that every cyber enemy, and ally, had tapped into her homebrew server as soon as it was operational.

      It’s also certain to me that someone copied her data to a thumbdrive or some such medium rather than being remotely hacked over the internet.

      So yes, this “report” is chock full of lies, innuendo, and unproven allegations. 30 million don’t buy what it used to.

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  7. “Remember, this is all happening in May, long before the official launch of the “official” FBI counterintelligence operation known as Crossfire Hurricane, July 31st, 2016.”

    Liked by 8 people

    • CopperTop says:

      There’s some mention too by LP/PS in text about Baker/Priestap in March as (P) Trump is announcing his ‘foreign’ experts. They also note they were asked about their political affiliations. So Baker/Priestap may have initiated the early targeting and then check for members to add who could be on the same side.

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    • Sammy says:

      This happened before any ” hack” DNC , that they’ve conveniently use now to justify making this a federal crime of the century and we stop all DC business to investigate for last 3 years .

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  8. sundance says:

    Liked by 23 people

    • Johnny says:

      Deprivation of rights under the color of law.

      No prosecutor should be able to target a family member just for coercion purpose. That in my opinion is prosecutor abuse of the law. My opinion only, being I am no lawyer.

      The lawyers and judges are the 80 percent reason our laws are so subverted today. We need to clean house.

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    • Sammy says:

      Did you read the bottom part, the FBI opened up a investigation into Sessions lying to the Senate, and Ronsenstein authorized the special council to take over the investigation, just crazy these people are ruthless.

      The leverage the used to keep Sessions in the dark and docile.

      Sundance Papp, said he knew of no Russians so what’s with the emails going about a meeting with with Putin before his meeting with Misfud, after his meeting and then again in May … Does he say why he was emailing them this.

      Are we sure Papp isn’t a plant, just seems to convenient to be associated with all people . He was first in Carlson’s campaign maybe if Carlson had gon further in the election they would have used Papp to take out Carlson. He only got 10 days in jail, when guys are ruthless, Stone’s looking at years.

      I notice they don’t report anything about the responses from camp Trump, that all of them from Steven Miller to Paul Manafort declined and said no meeting with Putin and no discussions with Russia without European allies input.

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      • woohoowee says:

        That’s what I figured happened to Sessions. Dang.

        Liked by 2 people

      • farrier105 says:

        Campaign people like Sessions, who was the “supervisor” of Papadpoulos and Page, didn’t pay any attention to Papadopoulos’ emails because they knew Papadopoulos was a FAKE foreign policy advisor. His inclusion on that list of foreign policy advisors is one of the things that put the plot to dirty up the Trump campaign with Russia in motion. Comey thought the list was real, so he called a National Security Council meeting about everyone on the list. Shortly after, Mifsud is pursuing Papadopoulos. Later, Halper would be leaning on Carter Page.

        This thing was planned well in advance of Crossfire Hurricane.

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      • jnr2d2 says:

        I noticed and thought the same thing as to Pappa and Carson’s campaign — and his going directly to that London Law group just after leaving Carson’s. That’s where he met Halper at same firm — as well as his future wife!!!! Que suspicious cat.

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      • Rosenstein was Sessions best buddy while he was convincing him that he should recuse himself and Rosy would handle the investigation. I wonder how much $$ Rosy received from the Crooked foundation for his duplicity.

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    • sturmudgeon says:

      Sickening…YES! Hasn’t Mueller operated this way before? AG Barr calls him a friend, so I am still not happy about Barr. Barr is supposed to be “about the LAW, so how can one be friends with someone who isn’t? Troubling.

      Liked by 2 people

      • law4lifeblog says:

        Starmudgeon, you don’t understand what the term “friend” means in these circles. They have been in the same DC Republican legal circles for decades, including in and out of DOJ. For you to describe nefarious motives to Barr based on that is ridiculous.

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        • Adorable deplorable says:

          Did you forget that Barr’s wife and Muellers’s wife are in the same bible study??!!! I’m sure Bob and Bill nevvvvvvvver spoke or hung out! 🙈🙉🙊

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  9. gretaherndon says:

    Nuland, Winer, Chalupa, Ukraine, NABU, FBI

    Liked by 2 people

  10. John55 says:

    >>”Weissmann and Mueller are saying the information: “that the Trump campaign had received information from the Russian government that it could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information that would be damaging to Hillary Clinton”, came from Erika Thompson on May 6th, 2016.”

    That rests on the fiction that Mifsud was a Russian agent. And there is a huge body of evidence to indicate he was and is not that. Several months after the FBI heard about “Russian agent” Mifsud from Downer, Mifsud showed up in the US to attend a State Dept conference in Spring 2017. He was allowed into the US, met with persons unknown (so far as we know) and was allowed to depart the US. The FBI conspicuously did not treat him the way they were treating Page and Papadopoulos at this time. He was not detained and questioned. He’s never to this day been subpoenaed or indicted, in spite of his seemingly central role in what is being treated as the crime of the century. And of course photographs exist showing Mifsud in the company of several senior people in the British intelligence service and Foreign office.

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    • JIM COMEY IS A WEASEL_DOUG says:

      If Mifsud was Russian agent, why would he be hiding out all this time at the LINK spook school?

      Liked by 2 people

    • gsonFIT says:

      The FBI interviewed Prof. Mifsud in February 2017, 2 weeks after taking to Papadopoulus FBI claims that Papd lies about Mifsud caused Mueller team to let Mifsud go even though they thought the professor was a Russian spy and they were conducting a Russian spying investigation at this time. Malfeasance or cover up? You decide.

      How inept is our intel community!

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      • John55 says:

        The FBI’s story with respect to Mifsud does not pass the laugh test. Somehow this alleged ‘Russian agent” was granted entrance to the US .. to attend a US State Dept conference, no less .. and then allowed to leave again.

        It might be worthwhile for Judaical Watch to file a FOIA asking for all records of contacts between US government officials and Joseph Mifsud. There’s clearly something very hinky going on there.

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      • Tom22ndState says:

        At least we can be thankful that analysts like Brennan think they have the chops to be an operator. His ham fisted fingerprints are all over this mess.

        Liked by 1 person

    • margarite1 says:

      I haven’t looked into every nook and crany the way Sundance and some Treepers have but seems to me that if using a foreign government to trash your political opponent is a crime then it’s Hillary who belongs in jail – and as has been proven not Trump.

      Hillary used Australia, Britain etc….to get what she wanted which was spreading lies to influence an election.

      Right? Isn’t it this simple???

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  11. “Finish MYE” ?

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  12. alliwantissometruth says:

    This entire charade is becoming tiresome. It’s more than obvious on what these scumbags were doing and their intent

    Only idiots and Hillary voters can’t see the obvious, but I repeat myself

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    • all I want- TOTALLY AGREE.

      As I said the other day, Sundance is like a one man CIA/ FBI. He has provided enough information to hang the whole traitorous lot of them from the yardarms, yet we just keep waiting and waiting for even a hint that the Powers that Be are going to do something to take down these criminals.

      Comey, Weissman, Mueller, RosenRat, the Hag, Hussein, and the entire crew of criminal thugs should have been hauled off to Super Max prison long ago, if there was any justice in this world.

      How much more evidence do we need before something substantial is done that will stop these bastards and their ilk from even THINKING of trying a stunt like this again?

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      • Marygrace Powers says:

        “Comey, Weissman, Mueller, RosenRat, the Hag, Hussein, and the entire crew of criminal thugs should have been hauled off to Super Max prison long ago, if there was any justice in this world.”

        Super Max prison is too light
        a sentence and they can remain
        operational in prison.

        All have earned/deserve the
        death penalty, Doesn’t matter
        if it’s lethal injection or hanging.
        No way is this JV operational
        stuff. It’s not their first rodeo,
        and we need to destroy them.
        Your above list is a great start.

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        • Marygrace- we can all dream…….

          I can barely stand to read the evil that Sundance exposes on a daily basis. It is overwhelming. Long past time for something extreme to be done about these Servants of Satan.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Only idiots and Hillary voters can’t see the obvious

      The problem is: it’s not obvious. And Dem propaganda media is not reporting it. People would have to do a lot of research on their own, find this site, watch certain Fox News shows, and basically spend 2+ years pouring over documents, engaging in deep discussions, and putting off many other things in order to piece this all together. Dem voters had little incentive to know the truth. It’s just like the Traythug debacle, people who wanted to believe that Traythug was an innocent victim had no compulsion to seek out the truth, and it certainly wasn’t presented by the media..

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  13. son of liberty says:

    As always Sundance is in top of this. Now I wish there was someone working on the media’s complicity so charges can be brought against the complicit CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS hell – all of them!

    Liked by 6 people

    • mark says:

      Barr needs to get up to speed on all of this. I have to admit….following this stuff starts to get confusing and I find myself rereading passages. I don’t how SD does it. I’m infuriated that its taking so long because of muellers fake investigation and DOJ and FBI doing everything they can do to slow walk and not cooperate. There is no reason now that ANY OF this stuff can’t be exposed. I don’t give a SHIT about the 5 eyes etc and preserving relationships. Foreign governments were being used to take down an elected President.

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  14. George 1 says:

    So Israel, Britan, Australia, and probably others we don’t know about yet, helped the CIA and the FBI in the get Trump operation. What great allies we have.

    I have to believe Merkel was in on it as well.

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  15. Carson Napier says:

    It would be so much simpler, and a much quicker read, if someone just listed the things that the FBI, DOJ and “The Intelligence Community” did that weren’t like those of a crime syndicate or a band of fascists.

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  16. sundance says:

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  17. Inca Hoots says:

    All of this coming from the deep state, so corrupt so evil… Let’s all trust God.
    Tomorrow is Easter! Redemtion, victory over evil. Thy will be done 🙏

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  18. mr.piddles says:

    It’s official then: Australia’s “confirmation” the other day was a misdirection. It FELT like a misdirection in its timing wrt. Mueller Report release and the total lack of any substance in what the released documents were supposedly “confirming”.

    Everybody has been brainwashed with the PapaD-Downer Fantasy: PapaD meets Downer, they chit chat about emails.. et voilà!… FBI opens an investigation. Simple, tidy. If you repeat it enough in FNYT articles, you really start to believe it.

    Problem #1: PapaD met with U.S. and Aussie intelligence operatives several days BEFORE meeting with Downer.

    Problem #2: Downer himself had already publicly admitted that he and PapaD didn’t discuss Clinton/DNC emails.

    So given #1 and #2, Team Mueller has both a.) a lot to hide (don’t look here…), and b.) a lot to make up (… look over there). Unfortunately for Team Mueller, as far as Artful Obfuscation goes: this isn’t a very good one. The dates don’t match up, PapaD is too smart, Nunes is a P.I.T.A., etc. etc.

    So… how to directly support Mueller’s unenviable task of just making up a bunch of sh*t to hide the real truth? Why… go back to your ol’ Five Eyes pals, of course… they’ll be happy to help. It’s in their best interests, after all.

    Indeed: “Australia ‘ready to confirm’ key meeting that led to Mueller probe”

    https://nypost.com/2019/04/18/australia-ready-to-confirm-key-meeting-that-led-to-mueller-probe/

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    • G. Alistar says:

      May be some tough and very embarrassing questions for Mueller and NOT from the democrats who subpoena him to testify about his $ 25 million opinion piece called a report.

      Liked by 3 people

      • mr.piddles says:

        Shaping up that way, ain’t it. Let’s hope House Repubs are tuned in. In fact, THEY are the ones that should be demanding Mueller appear ASAP. They’ve seen all the classified info, and they (presumably) have been following along. they should easily be able to see what does and does not make sense in The Mueller Dossier.

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      • JackB says:

        Maybe if treepers come up with some killer questions to ask Mueller, he won’t show up before Nadler’s comittee.

        Liked by 1 person

        • mr.piddles says:

          No no.. you WANT Mueller to show up. The Pro-Trump Repubs will grill him on the contents of his “report”, and the Dems aren’t gonna like either the questions or the answers. Dems don’t know what can of worms they’re opening up here… Mueller testifying about the report potentially EXPOSES THE FRAUDULENCE of the report. Irony!

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      • Sherri Young says:

        I had to read your comment twice because $25 million is the amount of Australian taxpayer money Downer gave to the Clinton Foundation for HIV/AIDS.

        Pay to Play.

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    • farrier105 says:

      Papadopoulos’s WIFE is the one who is too smart.

      Liked by 1 person

      • mr.piddles says:

        She’s pretty sharp, for sure. I’m sure he was shellshocked… I mean… talk about The Corrupt Hammer Of The Law comin’ down on your head. I do believe what she said insofar as she saved his ass (my interpretation) at the end of the day…

        TBH, I need to get his book. It sounds like a hoot.

        “Congratulations, Mr. & Mrs. Smith!”

        Too much.

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  19. Carson Napier says:

    I seem to remember decades ago the FBI had pictures of the “Ten Most Wanted” at post offices. That should be replaced with a “Ten Most Wanted”, not by the FBI, but of the FBI.

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    • Chieftain says:

      Mueller, Comey, Strzok, Priestap, Ohr, McCabe, Kortan, Rybicki, Page,Wray
      That’s 10.
      Horowicz should probably be there as well if Sharyl Attkisson has a say.

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      • I’ll repeat myself. Arrest/charge/discipline/fire the fifty FBI agents who accepted gifts from the media. A couple of them will flip to save their pensions. At the same time, start arresting those “in government” that illegally unmasked people. And do the same to those who illegally leaked classified documents to the press and those that lied under oath. Some of those will flip too.

        You can always go back and build a RICO, sedition, treason case against those higher up the food chain. But, it has to start somewhere. Might as well be at the bottom. And it better start well before election season kicks in full blast.

        MAGA – I feel better.

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  20. Sedition Sleuth says:

    I’ve always believed the feds knew Hillary’s server was compromised and they had to intercept anyone from getting the compromised emails because the whole bunch were sending things through the unsecured server and using pseudonym, non government emails. Obamas’s was i_luv_myself@gmail.com.

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    • thedoc00 says:

      Just align the dates of all the foreign “break-ins” to key industrial I/T as well as several government data bases, which we know of because of the news, with the dates of operation for the Clinton Server. Then there was the report that the list of classified items found on her server that included links to classified NATO I/T. lest we forget, Obama also used his official White House I/T to cross Hillary’s server. Plus, recall that Kerry was complaining, during the Iran Nuke negotiations, that it seemed like the Iranians were reading the State Department’s Mail.

      The “no intent” proclamation, by Comey, boggles the mind when considering some of the actions taken by Clinton:
      1. Clinton set up a clandestine server to conduct government business and avoid scrutiny.
      2. Clinton e-mails, released during the election, included instructions by her staff (with CC Hillary) to remove classification marking from materials before transmitting them.
      3. Clinton lied publicly 4 times about her server containing classified materials, when there is a self reporting option in US Federal Codes, to avoid legal issues. She publicly lied up to the point lists of classified document titles and initial counts of classified documents were made public.
      4. She would only meet with the FBI, if not done under oath nor “officially” and questions were known ahead of time to avoid the perjury trap.

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      • rmnewt says:

        Sundance is a master of reading between the lines and filling in the gaps as you and sedition keenly step back and hit on what may be the bigger picture. Consider what I’ll argue is at least a half objective view of the whole Russia threat to the election. Namely, what info would be dangerous to Hillary and maybe others (like the agencies, IC and deep staters)?
        Think about it, they claim that its wrong for Trump to seek compromising info on Hillary from the Russians. What could they have? The Russians supposedly had the dossier B.S on the POTUS which hit the mainstream media before the election so wasn’t that influencing the election? It could have, but didn’t because it wasn’t true.
        On the other hand, everything we’ve seen from WikiLeaks re Podesta and DNC was true and confirmed the democratic nomination process and other collaboration with MSM was biased to Hillary. Perhaps there is more damaging information that ties back to FBI and other agencies? What better way to hide those indiscretions than to divert all attention to a common enemy in Trump?
        If you had been tapping Trump’s campaign for years, don’t you think there would be some chatter coupling back to DNC and Hillary? Perhaps there wasn’t direct emails from FBI or other sites, but second hand discussions of inside Trump campaign strategy and redirection or changes in Hillary’s plan could easily confirm gov/IC insiders passed info to Hillary so as to keep her a step ahead of Trump.
        A simple place that could be traced is her debate prep. We already know Donna Brazile sent her the questions that would be asked, so how far of a reach is that she would have heard how Trump was being coached to respond? If you were prepping for a debate, wouldn’t you like to know what the counter points would be?
        Does anyone think that if Obama and his band of corruptocrats had wire-tap info, they would just sit on it? Its vital to know what they did with the info.
        Mueller report infers they had inside info just to ask the questions of McGahn, Flynn, Manafort, and all the others. Would love to see the transcripts. So out of the blue Mueller’s gang ask McGahn, leading questions that Trump asked him to fire Mueller or many other inside what ifs and concerns that they then can emphasize and argue is obstruction.
        The report makes the case that Mueller was fishing with inside, ill-gotten eavesdropped info. Its good that Barr is focused on the predicate. However, the rest of us should look at what Sundance refers to as the Occam’s Razor, or most likely explanation of what transpired. Sure the deep state (and Russia) wants to undermine Trump’s presidency, but the devil is in the details on how they’ve done it. Those details is what needs to be understood so that it wont happen again and so that we can hold those responsible into account.
        Sorry for the long comment. At some point the gov needs to really step up and explain the rest of the story. To even argue that Trump could be wrong for attempting to investigate potentially damaging dirt on Hillary is ridiculous, unless it was true, then not getting that info out would be even more damaging. If she had won, Russia (and/or the deep state) could hold her hostage and then were would we be?

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      • gnadfly says:

        Don’t forget Hillary’s crew”lost” 23 email capable devices: Blackberrys, iPhones and laptops. Don’t think every device was “accidentally” destroyed. BTW, where is Weiner’s Hillary laptop?

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    • Marygrace Powers says:

      Sedition Sleuth re:I’ve always believed the feds knew Hillary’s server was compromised…”

      Feds, McCabe and Hillary Server – I believe it’s worse/they were complicit.


      December 1st, 2017. NNSA, Hillary, And McCabe With Hillary’s Server In Chappaqua


      December 2nd, 2017 Andy McCabe’s House in Chappaqua – Fuel Rod Mueller NNSA Outpost?
      (GO TO 4:52 – shows the home McCabe lived in down the road
      from Hillary/ look at the SIZE of the WIRES going into the home. Did McCabe
      and the FBI set up and oversee Hillary’s server? Would not be surprised.)

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  21. Lmwinger says:

    Can’t believe Papa-d, our lowly coffee boy, will be the one to bring down the house of cards.

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    • ILOT says:

      The fact he smelled a RAT with the $10,000 payoff impressive, leaving it in an attorneys safe before departing for the states was more impressive. Prompted me to buy his book.

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      • AloftWalt says:

        I’m sure that the money was marked. I would be curious to see where that money surfaces

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        • Clinton Foundation (coming and going)?

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        • Anonymous says:

          Papa has had a year to have the currency markings confirmed. Just take the bills to some detective agency or the like. He throws out stuff like this (theories) and then does no work to confirm it. For that matter, why would they need to mark it (just recording the serial numbers would be sufficient).

          When Papa throws out stuff like this, you have to watch him. He really was a coffee boy (trying to act important and getting himself in trouble). And not very smart.

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        • Sherri Young says:

          PapaD has said several times that he wants to be able to hand over that cash directly to a trusted person in congress to have it examined. Probably not real interested in flying in unescorted with the cash, especially since he was detained before he even got to customs last time.

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          • Anonymous says:

            Sherri: He could just hire a Greek detective agency to do some forensic examination. It wouldn’t prove everything, but might find some common markings (even bringing to the states might not show all marks). But has he bothered? No. He tweets. And tries to sell his book. And posts pictures of his wife mugging for the camera. He’s just full of hot air. And not bright.

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      • WSB says:

        Interesting that George was THAT savvy.

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Well it’s kinda the 3d chess theory. But….. Did PDJT down play Papa D to avoid them building additional cover stories.

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  22. Bogeyfree says:

    I wonder if Barr were to review and audit the SC investigation, how many actions would he find that Mueller and the gang took that would be considered outside or in violation of FBI rules, policy and procedures and if any steps were in violation of laws?

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  23. Zorro says:

    As someone wrote the other day this is Medal of Freedom quality reporting, forget the discredited Pulitzer.

    Compiling this info takes great analytical and organizational skill of a rare level. We can’t be sure Nunes or any other white hat is seeing the same thing.

    How do we get this material to the attention of the right people ?

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  24. The Boss says:

    Remind me why the dems want to subpoena Mueller to testify? Just asking Mueller about this tidbit will be good for hours of fun for the GOP committee members when it’s their turn to ask questions.

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  25. ~Memo to DOJ A.G. William Barr : Seems your long time friend Bob Mueller and his protege Andrew Weissman aren’t as Clever as they think or the Public is as Stupid as they Assume.—Surely you noticed Mueller and Weissman’s “Sleight of Hand” Lawyerly DOUBLE-TONGUE Rhetoric. Make NO Mistake Mr. Barr, the Public [IS] aware of what Mueller and Weissman were CONNIVING and Attempting.~
    http://www.justice.gov/contact-us

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    • dignity316 says:

      I believe Mr. Barr is an honorable AG but he is still going to cover for certain people. If he wanted to get to the bottom of this coup he would indeed appoint a new SC.

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      • ILOT says:

        I think assembling a Grand Jury is in order, there certainly seems to be enough there. Plus we already know that Nunes lit a fuse and of course there are the other referrals that would apparently go along with the Greg Craig indictment. I don’t think it’s that difficult, time of the essence but perhaps I’m missing something.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Oh, for,….PETES SAKE!
        NO,NO,NO Special Council!
        This has been hashed out countless times, so I won’t repeat all of the reasons why Barr should not, and WILL not, appoint an S.C.

        Iknow we all express opinions here, but come on!

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        • ILOT says:

          Just read Mifsud surfaced in Rome. NOW is the time to get the party started. I agree that a SC would muck this up in both politics and timing. If in fact there are 11-12 referrals stemming from the Meuller debacle (where Mr. Craigs indictment originated), dovetail that with Nunes referrals and squeeze a couple folks that will turn on a dime. Mifsud just had a child if not mistaken so no doubt he would save his rear end. I want to know who he worked for and WHEN that all commenced an if a CIA asset why. That detail is on the 7th floor in the DOJ somewhere, even if he wasn’t a CIA asset someone knows how and why he became involved.

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      • GB Bari says:

        Appreciate your eagerness to get the entire coup exposed.
        A Special Counsel will muck things up for another one to two years, possibly longer. We don’t want that. The AG has enough prosecutors under his authority to be able to simultaneously investigate multiple people who have committed crimes in the time since Muh Russia began.

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  26. simicharmed says:

    Subpoenas or arrest warrants should clearly be issued for several people involved in this coup d’é·tat…starting with these SJW’s named Ms Erika Thompson and Mr. Alexander Downer!

    The foreigners involved is troubling and could very well be construed as an Act-of-War!

    The Social Justice Warriors plaguing society are (sadly), a worldwide problem and truly destructive to mankind.

    Time for some EXPELLING of Foreign Diplomats on US soil!

    Jug Ears did it to the Russians because of a Known-HOAX

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  27. Carrie2 says:

    Oh, what a web we weave when first we deceive still fits all this under cover illegality to kick out a legitimate President. Yes,more and more of us want each and every one involved to be hanged for outright treason and sedition. They must be erased from the planet and never allowed even the smell of doing the dirty any longer. I think we should also confiscate all their assets here and abroad and that no one in this ever long list be allowed to leave the States to run away and hide from real justice for what they have done. It is now brought about the question of the Obamas being out of our country, but so what, they will be brought to justice because we will not allow them to hide. They have property here worth millions, so will they leave it or are they trying to sell it? Hmm.

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    • Peppurr says:

      Well, I would agree there has to be some accountability here. It can’t all be swept under the carpet. Examples need to be set so this never happens to another President, as Trump has voiced, many times.

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  28. doofusdawg says:

    Didn’t read much of the thread but the logical question to me is did Pap tell Downer’s girl that Russians had dirt. Probably not but I’m sure they had hoped he would. Even if he did tell her it’s still obvious that this is all staged. I can’t believe people keep ignoring the fact that Dearlove??? resigned the day after Trump elected. Where is that story.

    Obvious now that Misfud is the key and that Halper was brought in to wrap things up after his Flynn set up years earlier. Just imagine the things they have done that we don’t know about… damn. Get those two under oath and let’s see where it leads.

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  29. Mncpo(ret) says:

    I honestly think both Downer and Misfud were wired. All of a sudden there are “transcripts” of conversations with PapaD.

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  30. paulmafinga says:

    As of 9/2018, Joseph Mifsud is supposedly living in an undisclosed location under an assumed name. His lawyer, Stephan Roh, denies that Mifsud told Papadopoulos anything about the Clinton emails. They are so desperate to bury this.

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  31. CopperTop says:

    PAPA UPDATE: (not really sure where to post): Grand Jury was presented with how Clovis determined Papadop…”Energy” credibility.

    p82
    After receiving Papadopoulos’s name from Lutes, Clovis performed a Google search on Papadopoulos, learned that he had worked at the Hudson Institute, and believed that he had credibility on energy issues) FN407

    FOOTNOTE:
    407 [GRND JURY] ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■; 3/3/16 Email, Lutes to Clovis & Papadopoulos (6:05:47 p.m.).

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    • CopperTop says:

      I haven’t thought it through but asking why a section about energy bona fides and the email associated with that and communication between person introducing GP to SC made it to grand jury. Is there dicussion in GJ about where GP got his energy experience …how this relates to Israel????

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  32. mr. deacon says:

    All well and good in the world of historical fiction spy novels. But Papadoupolous was a nobody in the Wide Wide World Of Sports and all the switches between him and Trump were set to the OFF position. In other words he was there for show. Papadoupolous had no more insight into Trump’s plans or foreign policy than a parking valet at Trump Towers. So why did the Shyster-drive Con-o-matic machine try to paint him as being in with the in crowd? Why would they hook him up with Downer? Downer was twenty stories higher on London’s social pecking order and just being seen with Papadopolous in public, especially after he said what he said two days earlier on the 4th, would be tantamount to Downer getting caught ”No, I’m not buying it. None of the versions of this story holds water. Papadoupolous was working on a deal with Israeli oil and gas, not Russia. Who did the cat daddy cool breeze, Cantor, work for that introduced them? One article says; “Downer reportedly told Papadopoulos to “leave David Cameron alone.”

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    • JMC says:

      Why? So they could get FISA warrants to bug the entire Trump campaign, that’s why. Papadopoulis was moving around in Europe and the ME. Convenient. They had to keep the dirtying up off shore and the actors off shore where they couldn’t be reached..They didn’t need a big name to get the warrant. Just a big dirty lie.

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    • III% says:

      I think what we will eventually see was PapaD was merely one of many attempts to entrap Trump and his people to torpedo any chance of him winning. When that didn’t work they used bits and pieces to string together and bootstrap the political spying going on all along. PapaD presented a good opportunity as a naive young man who could be set up to take Trump down. Think about it….what if he had that 25K on him when he flew back?

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    • Sherri Young says:

      PapaD was able to set up a meeting between Trump and el-Sisi. That’s not worthless.

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  33. Streak 264 says:

    Everything keeps changing.
    All I know is some people did some things!

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  34. Max De says:

    DIA? Hmmm Any chance Carter Page w a DIA asset? IF so, any chance Carter Page was a assisting the FBI one way or another and/or that Carter Page was a willing FISA target?

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  35. It seems that this is a Brennan directed sting from early 2016 to do what ? Get a pretext for sanctioned spying on Trump campaign and then they are off to the races . Did they hope to derail his candidacy somehow? If true as SD and Papad. says then ironically the Mueller /Weismann team has committed conspiracy and obstruction and ironically VSG Trump’s tweets about corrupt Mueller team would be tellingly accurate as well . One can only hope that the truth is untangled from this intentional coverup .

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  36. BestBets says:

    On a shallow note, isn’t Maria B. one of the best interviewers in the business? She actually listens, allows her guest to talk even when she tried to go on to the next topic, asks follow-up questions that make sense and seems to have some knowledge of the subject at hand. How refreshing!

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  37. thedoc00 says:

    The entire Mueller report reads like a Democrat Media script, with narrative engineering done with unrelated or out of context sound bite, video clips and twitter messages.

    The Mueller did not gather a single bit of new “evidence”. It all appears to be nothing more than Media and democrat party narrative engineered talking point.

    Wonder if there is a fraud, waste and abuse violation that can be hung on these clowns.

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  38. bakocarl says:

    I’m missing something here (probably a lot) concerning the flow of Mifsud’s info to PapaD about Russia and Hillary emails.

    Given that I don’t have PapaD’s book, then from the Mueller report, Mueller is saying that PapaD discussed Mifsud’s info with Christian Cantor and Erika Thompson. That would seem to me to be highly inappropriate, and I haven’t seen where PapaD says he did that.

    PapaD and Downer agree that Misfud’s info was not discussed at their later meeting.

    So, if PapaD didn’t discuss Mifsud’s info with Christian and Erika, how did Mifsud’s info get inserted into those meetings to make it, then, into the info that Mueller says was discussed . . . from Terrence Dudley and Greg Baker?

    What am I missing?

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Ask and you shall receive😋

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    • JMC says:

      It may be this. First, I have read that Mifsud’s lawyer is now claiming that Mifsud never mentioned Hillary’s emails and the Russians to Papa D. And Downer confirms he never discussed anything like that with Papa D. So now there is only once source remaining for the supposed Hillary Emails – Russia conversation with Papa that resulted in the FISA warrant. That source is the very minor player Erika Thompson, who is the unnamed person of May 6 referred to in the red box in the Mueller document post above.

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      • JMC says:

        I take back what I said about Downer saying that Papa did not mention Hillary’s emails or the Russians. A poster lower down has quoted Downer as saying they were mentioned by Papa.

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      • Chewbarkah says:

        My guess is that Erika Thompson was tasked with creating a plausible excuse to report that “P discussed dirt on Hillary in form of emails in possession of Russia”. She knew Christian Cantor knew P via Israeli oil business. So she used Cantor to set meeting with P, who wants to network. Over a drink, she steers the conversation around to the US campaign, Hillary, emails, etc. Whether P engaged in the subject, or blew it off with “who knows?”, she had her excuse. Does it appear that the SC even interviewed Thompson or Cantor about who put them up to this?

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  39. sundance says:

    …”Weissmann/Mueller are NOT saying that information came from Alexander Downer, despite the connection to the footnote that now appears to be intentionally conflating the origin of their claim. They are “technically” saying the information came from Erika Thompson.”…

    Two U.S. spies set up Papadopoulos with an Australian spy. It is the information from the Australian spy the CIA used in the construct of the EC.

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    • CopperTop says:

      This ‘feels’ related: Thinking it’s why an Israel connection was used…why else have the energy confirmation by Clovis redacted or utilized rather in a GJury testimony. What helped Clovis decide Papa was indeed a good energy source for the campaign?

      After receiving Papadopoulos’s name from Lutes, Clovis performed a Google search on Papadopoulos, learned that he had worked at the Hudson Institute, and believed that he had credibility on energy issues. (p 82) FN407

      FOOTNOTE:
      407 [GRND JURY] ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■; 3/3/16 Email, Lutes to Clovis & Papadopoulos (6:05:47 p.m.).

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      • Dutchman says:

        I’m thinking the set up goes a step further. Pepper the Trump campaign with questions about “Who is Trump going to have, as his foriegn policy advisors?”( this, after a # of ‘well known, credentialled people stated, without being asked, that they would NOT work for “Trump”.)

        Then, either Clovis was ‘in’on it, or whoever fed him the names was. Campaign is in a rush to ‘vet’the names, so they can get them out to the press. List includes people they already ‘know’ they can use. PapaD, cause he,was already on their radar, due to pipeline work he was doing. They wanted to get him for that work, seperate from anything Trump-related, cause that pipeline was deemed counter to Obama/Hillary interests.

        Carter Page, cause again they KNEW him, from earlier work.

        So, a part of the set up was to get people THEY ALREADY KNEW, named as “Trump Campaign Officials” and then set them up, by first having one spy tell them “Russia has dirt on Hillary”, and then having another spy subsequently ELICIT the same information FROM them.

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    • bakocarl says:

      Thank you. I was trying to see if PapaD ever said he discussed Mifsud’s info with Erika. Maybe I just missed it somewhere.

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    • JMC says:

      It would appear that the bad guys like to use minor players to get the dirty work done, and keep the “bigger names”, like Downer, free and “untainted” They goofed with Mifsud, though. He is not a small fry. That’s why Miffy’s lawyer is now claiming Miffy never said anything about Hillary’s emails and the Russians to Papa D. So the whole weight now lies with female agent Erika Thompson’s accusation from May 6th. This gets Mifsud free and clear. And Downer. But now we have two major players, Mifsud and Downer, claiming there was no mention of Hillary’s emails and the Russians in their talks with Papa D..

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      • JMC says:

        Oops! Downer does mention in the quote below that Papa talked about the emails and the Russians. My bad.

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      • Anonymous says:

        Mifsud is a grifter second rater. He has lost jobs several times with arguments about overcharging expenses. Downer is at a whole nother level (has led a department, been elected, etc.) I’m not even sure that Mifsud was actually being used by the players here. He might have just been doing his usual grifting.

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    • Doug says:

      They used Downer to put a legit face on the info ala Chrissy Steele
      Priestap was there to brief them on what to pull out??
      No wonder Priestap didn’t discuss dates locations and subject matter of his foreign trips

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “It is the information from the Australian spy the CIA used in the construct of the EC.”

      Human asset version of Reverse Targeting?

      Hmm… shifty shifty.

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  40. trumpmemesandreams says:

    Aside from the obvious set-up aspect, Downer appears to be stating that all of this information (re: “russian information”) was conveyed with Erika present (thus, May 10) based on his interviews otherwise. Details follow for anyone not familiar.

    Alexander Downer interview, The Australian. His own words:
    https://archive.is/Sg5xW

    Characterization of the meeting:
    “We had a drink and he (Papadopoulos) talked about what Trump’s foreign policy would be like if Trump won the election. He (Trump) hadn’t got the nomination at that stage. During that conversation he (Papadopoulos) mentioned the Russians might use material that they have on Hillary Clinton in the lead-up to the election, which may be damaging”

    Q: Did you realise you were one of the first people to have known about this dirt?
    A: “He didn’t say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her. No, he said it would be damaging. He didn’t say what it was.’’

    Further characterization of the meeting:
    “We didn’t know anything about Trump and Russia and we had no particular focus on that. For us we were more interested in what Trump would do in Asia. By the way, nothing he (Papadopoulos) said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton. It was just that this guy (Papadopoulos) clearly knew that the Russians did have material on Hillary Clinton — but whether Trump knew or not? He didn’t say Trump knew or that Trump was in any way involved in this. He said it was about Russians and Hillary Clinton; it wasn’t about Trump.”

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    • JMC says:

      Thanks. This means I have to revise my statements made above that Downer said Papa D said nothing about Hillary’s emails and Russia. I think, though, that Downer is lying or being disingenuous.

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      • ILOT says:

        Actually in the FULL context it could be completely innocent. It doesn’t appear based on what I’ve read he did more than confirm that the Russians had information they “might use” that is damaging to HRC; ie disinformation campaign. Well informed know for a FACT Russians have been playing games with our electoral process for decades with the specific objective of creating mistrust, not so much to support a specific candidate. To be kind anyone that says PDJT won with the help of Russians is ignorant. It’s all about disinformation to undermining the process. Given that, I can see where Pappa D might be thinking he would be giving Downer a “heads up”. It’s not like the kid flew to Moscow to get files, dossiers or pictures. Might be more to it, but I’m not sure…

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      • trumpmemesandreams says:

        Agreed, Downer is a snake. Downer’s portraying that the PapaD/Russian Dirt information was conveyed on May 10 (in his Australian interview) points to his total duplicity. The May 6 date noted in the Mueller/Weissman report is likely MORE accurate and true to the fact — especially given PapaD’s subsequent book and lots of solid details. The “Russian dirt” information planted by Mifsud was extracted on May 6 from PapaD by Erika. Everything else is cover.

        Downer stated he was present for the information exchange when he never was — it took place before his May 10 meeting. He was simply furthering the conspiracy and giving it the gloss of officiality via his position.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Downers a snake, just from this snippet of an interview.
      “Material that could be damaging to Hillary”? That would be opposition research, something EVERY campaign does.

      Then, further down he clarifies PapaD never indicated DJT knew, etc. about Russians. Conflating things, and obsfuscating; he’s scum.

      Unfortunately, our laws on Treadon have not been updated to reflect changes in international relations.

      Treason laws are written at a time when there were enemies we are at war with, and allies. Doezn’t take into account allies who are at war with us, or enemies we may have common ground with.
      For instance, is Iran an ‘enemy’?
      Then why did we ship them pallets of cash?
      Is China an ‘enemy’? Then WHY are we engaged in massive trade with them?
      How about changing Treason law, to reflect reality?
      Either that, or take it off the books.
      So, working for ANY foriegn government, TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE U.S., would be Treason?
      IDK,..

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    • Rhoda R says:

      I’m getting the impression that this whole “Russia has information on Clinton” thing sounds more like gossip than any kind of substantial information.

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    • Anonymous says:

      By this point there was already public speculation in the commentariat that Russia might have something on Hillary. All these people like Papa, Page were doing was just acting important gossiping about stuff they had heard elsewhere (and not from real sources). It’s like us chatting about a twitter rumor.

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  41. Phil aka Felipe says:

    Those fools ought to know they can’t hide from Sundance!

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  42. JMC says:

    So the government’s whole case for the Papa D. FISA warrant now appears to rest on info supposedly passed on by Erika Thompson. Pretty thin, indeed.

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  43. WSB says:

    So, from what we are reading here, are we to believe that $30M later, Mueller just screwed himself and EVERYONE else participating in the coup by making the Mother of all Mistakes in his own report?

    Well, then there now…maybe the $30M was worth it…but maybe it’s best not to ask your unofficial ‘girlfriend’ to do the heavy lifting.

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  44. covfefe999 says:

    Those particular Strzok-Page texts always interested me. Why would there be sudden new pressure to finish the Hillary fake investigation just because Cruz dropped out of the GOP primary and Trump was then the de facto winner? Did they think Hillary could easily beat Cruz but not easily beat Trump? Or did they already have a plan in place to open the investigation on Trump if he became the nominee but they couldn’t devote their full attention to it until MYE was wrapped up?

    I think it’s the latter. It makes me feel a little bit sick to come to that conclusion.

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    • covfefe999 says:

      Yah, it’s definitely the latter. That Strzok-Page conversation happened on May 4. By May 6 they were trying to entrap Papadopoulos. Big hurry there.

      Someone was in charge of this operation. Too many parties involved, too much coordination, for it to have been just random groups of Trump haters.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        That last sentence has the ring of truth about it. And yes, it is sickening.

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      • spoogels says:

        George Papadopoulos @GeorgePapa19

        I repeat: the British and Australian governments were illegally spying on the Trump Campaign by April 2016. Let that sink in.
        21.5K
        4:12 AM – Sep 21, 2018

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    • pocaMAGAjunta says:

      Good point about urgency. If MYE was all about the Clinton “exoneration” , it seems the urgency to clear HRC should be constant. I wonder if there are other aspects to MYE beyond just clearing HRC.

      The April 26 date of the PapaD Mifsud meeting indicates the frame up was already underway prior to Cruz dropping out of the race. Perhaps it makes more sense to apply the urgency to the PapaD frame job and all the other ridiculous crap that went in the summer of 2016.

      Prior to calling it Crossfite Hurricane this crap was going on during the Republican primaries. Could MYE have been an umbrella term that included more than we have thus far assumed?

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      • covfefe999 says:

        You’re right. The framing of Papadopoulos was already under way, and then as soon as Cruz dropped out of the GOP primary and Trump became the nominee the traitors hustled to move their plan forward. They had to get MYE out of the way, they basically phoned that one in, so they could focus all of the efforts on spying on Trump. It’s amazing. I really do hope Barr, at the very least, brings all of this to light. He seems to be an honorable man, I pray he is one.

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        • pocaMAGAjunta says:

          Me too. Honor is lacking in this whole mess, so AMEN to having someone other than PDJT actually being who they seem to be.

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  45. H. Hawke says:

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  46. simicharmed says:

    Isn’t strange that we continue to use the name “Mueller-Report” when we know that it is actually the Andrew Weissmann-Report?? Mueller was the “brand-name” to use..much like the Chinese use for the junk we once thought was reliable product…

    The Deep State AND Public Unions is the ONLY reason Andrew Weissmann was not terminated years ago. The Devil in disguise is this Weissmann-Creature.

    This Weissmann animal has caused tremendous damage to this Nation throughout his/it’s “sanctioned career” by the Federal Government!

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  47. Coast says:

    The only way for there to be justice, is for our DOJ to do an honest aggressive job. I won’t hold my breath…because Barr praised and thanked Mueller, Rosenstien, and the garbage report. The report should have been a one page document that read “we spent a ton of resources, used a bunch of corrupt FBI agents, staffed the SC with biased anti-Trump lawyers, and found NOTHING. Instead we got a 450 page anti-Trump dossier. When…WHEN with the DOJ do its job? Doubtful when Barr praises the criminals, including their product.

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    • Coast says:

      Meanwhile…I’ll see you at the next Bible study meeting.

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    • mr.piddles says:

      They may very well be honest and aggressive. I’m starting to get a little “fuzzy feeling” about Barr. We’ll see.

      The problem is: will they be TRANSPARENT.

      No tTansparency, no Trust. No Trust, no Peace.

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  48. mr.piddles says:

    And don’t forget…

    Erika “Wannabe Honeypot” Thompson says: “Downing Street hates him.”

    Now do that math equation…

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  49. Bill W. says:

    If all these traitors were profiled on CRIMINAL MINDS TV series, they might have grist for 5 years, or more. Hochner and Rossi could retire very well off, lol. What a sick show this would be, replete with whack jobs and rub outs, and twisted sex aplenty. And the staggering mental derangements, psychos and more. WOW! What a reality show.

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  50. All Too Much says:

    “Andrew Weissmann and Robert Mueller carefully word the paragraphs because they don’t want the background of the May 6th, 2016, event attached to western intelligence.

    Sneaky.”

    I would love to see Jim Jordan and others ask Mueller about this when he testifies before congress.

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