New Mueller Court Filing Highlights Trump Investigation Will Continue Deep into Year Three…

Voices selling a pending conclusion to the Mueller investigation of President Trump were dealt a set-back today as Robert Mueller files a motion with the court extending the 2016 Russian interference investigation deep into 2019.

The Associated Press is citing court documents filed within the Rick Gates case where the special counsel is requesting additional time for sentencing as an outcome of ongoing cooperation that has expanded the investigation.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Robert Mueller isn’t done with former Trump campaign aide Rick Gates.

That’s according to a new court filing from the special counsel’s team. Prosecutors say they’re not ready for Gates to be sentenced because he is continuing to cooperate with “several ongoing investigations.” And they’re asking a federal judge to give them until mid-January before they have to give another update about his case.

The filing confirms that the investigation will extend into next year as Mueller continues to probe Russian election interference and any possible coordination with President Donald Trump’s associates.  (read more)

Fortunately there is no direct notification of President Trump as the subject of the expanded inquiry, which will allow the “trust the plan” folks the opportunity to claim a magnanimous Mueller is only being diligent; and there’s no need for concern with the investigation going deep into next year.

My initial read on this is that it appears to be a counter-move by the administrative state, in response to the appointment of Matt Whitaker as Associate Attorney General.

My hunch is the Special Counsel ‘small group‘ is using court filings to extend the calendar, and thereby the usefulness of their investigation as a shield.  This “ongoing investigation” blocks any unfavorable investigative inquiry which might expose the DOJ/FBI corruption.

However, I’m far more cynical than most when it comes to the intents and interests of DC, Robert Mueller, DAG Rod Rosenstein and the Machiavellian administrative state.

I personally believe Mueller’s investigation always held an ulterior purpose:

♦(1) Create an investigation – Just by creating the investigation it is then used as a shield by any corrupt FBI/DOJ official who would find himself/herself under downstream congressional investigation.  Former officials being deposed/questioned by IG Horowitz or Congress could then say they are unable to answer those questions due to the ongoing special counsel investigation.  In this way Mueller provides cover for ideologically aligned deep state officials.

♦(2)  Use the investigation to keep any and all inquiry focused away from the corrupt DOJ and FBI activity that took place in 2015, 2016, 2017.  Keep the media narrative looking somewhere, anywhere, other than directly at the epicenter of the issues. In this way, Mueller provides distraction and talking points against the Trump administration.

♦(3) Use the investigation to suck-up, absorb, any damaging investigative material that might surface as a result of tangentially related inquiry.  Example: control the exposure of evidence against classified leak participants like SSCI Director of Security, James Wolfe; and/or block IG Horowitz from seeing material related to the FISA abuse scandal and “spygate”.  In this way Mueller provides cover for the institutions and the administrative state.

In all of these objectives the Mueller special counsel has been stunningly effective.

However, the ‘trust the plan’ crew believes Rosenstein and Mueller are working on behalf of President Trump to confront the deep state; and everything that appears to be bad news is really just good news we haven’t discovered yet.

You decide which is more likely…

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605 Responses to New Mueller Court Filing Highlights Trump Investigation Will Continue Deep into Year Three…

  1. The Boss says:

    FTA: “My initial read on this is that it appears to be a counter-move by the administrative state, in response to the appointment of Matt Whitaker as Associate Attorney General”.

    As they say, your first guess is your best. And I agree with it.

    But stepping back, what relevance could Gates’ cooperation have with anything related to Muh Russia? I’m viewing these filings as a sign of weakness after the “quiet period” preceding the midterms has ended. Is this all they’ve got? Typical lawyer stall tactics? I sense an opportunity.

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    • ladypenquin says:

      Why can’t Whitaker simply shut Mueller down? I’m sure he has been around the DOJ long enough to have learned the ropes.

      There is a reason why POTUS appointed him Acting AG, and not RR. Not only was the appointment a particular move, but his removing oversight of Mueller to Whitaker has to mean something.

      Look, I’ve given up on plans, or whether POTUS knows everything (though I think he does) – what I don’t get is the fact that we jumped off the cliff. Somehow I didn’t see that coming.

      I’m simply asking – is POTUS that weak? Has he been irreparably weakened? Has he no power? Acosta? – sure let him go to court, and he can keep appealing if it doesn’t get thrown out – but he loses because the “Press” isn’t being denied access to the President, although it could be done differently. It’s simply, finally, that POTUS and the WH realize Acosta crossed a line that – and it can no longer be tolerated.

      No need to spend energy mocking those of us who thought POTUS had a plan – obviously we’re wrong. But neither can I buy that the man is completely helpless, hopeless and going to abandon ship.

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      • spoogels says:

        Fox News aka Faux News is supporting CNN and Acosta’s lawsuit
        Definitely time to boycott and LET THEM KNOW

        https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/fox-news-announces-support-for-cnn-lawsuit-over-jim-acosta-being-barred-from-white-house/

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      • Sayit2016 says:

        Ok take a deep breath…..

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        • ladypenquin says:

          Yes, I will. Mostly I’m feeling bewildered this evening. I’m sure everyone can figure out what I don’t want to say – but the 800 lb gorilla in the room is when we throw in the towel. Didn’t know we were at that point.

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          • Deb says:

            We never throw in the towel. Like Richard Geer in An Officer and a Gentleman, “I got no where else to go.”

            Liberty or death.

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          • jello333 says:

            We’re NOT at that point! One thing (good) parents do when their kids start getting a little older, and able to think for themselves rather than just be told “Do this! Don’t do that!” is they step back once in awhile. Let the kid try to figure it out on their own. Rather than saying, “It’ll be okay, here’s what you should do now, let me help you”… they’re just like “YOU figure it out.” And then they watch to see how the kid responds, how much they’ve LEARNED from what they’ve been given before.

            “You’re insane, Jello… what are you talking about?!” Hmm… 😉

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          • Sayit2016 says:

            I know how you feel sweet one. I am trying to keep a lid on things myself. I am angered by what I see happening regarding the votes, and probably 20 other things.

            Not sure what you mean by the gorillia- please explain..

            This too shall pass. Hang in. hugs !

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            • ladypenquin says:

              As in: we’ve realized our worse fears, the ship is lost, it’s over for POTUS – the gorilla is that thought, that conclusion, that throwing in the towel moment.

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              • montanamel says:

                WHEN I throw in the towel….
                It will be followed by a full mag of 5.56mm zingers!
                And, the Stone’s will be playing near painfully loud…
                “can’t get no satisfaction”; and, I tried and I tried…
                The Red Commie’s aint’ getten’ none neither!

                In the meantime, let’s all gather at the river and prep a suitable welcome for the wetbacks.

                Check-6

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              • Lady P- I am surprised at you saying such things! We are nowhere NEAR giving up on anything!. Life is all about change. Nothing stays the same, especially in the 60 second news cycle that exists today. Don’t ever get fooled by what you read and hear in the media. Most of it is propaganda. Even we Treepers sometimes forget that. We all have to adapt, change strategies as the war continues.

                Did you ever expect the Evil Ones to just put down their weapons because we won a major battle electing our President Trump? Of course not. They are going to fight us like the hounds of Hell that they are, rather than give up their power. We knew that going in. As SayIt2016 said, this too shall pass.

                As far as our President Trump- I am reminded of the words of Marcus Aurelius: “when a bunch of known corrupt people unite against one man and spare no attempt to assassinate his character, blindly follow that one man.”

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                • ladypenquin says:

                  No, Seneca, I didn’t expect the bad guys to roll over, though the enormity and depth of their evil machinations surprised me. It’s this post-election downward trajectory I’m been reading here that’s getting me down. SD’s own posts indicate that not only are we faring poorly now, but that the future looks bleak. It’s understandable to be realistic and honest, but then George Washington would have quit early on in the war. Thought about him the last few days. He didn’t give up against enormous odds.

                  I want to fight, I want to believe – we simply need a way forward, not downward. Perhaps I did believe POTUS had more power than he has shown. Also thought he knew what he needed to know about the bad guys. The election outcome indicates he came up short on that.

                  It helps that there are Treepers like you and Sayit2016, montanamel, and others, we’re good – it’s the “we’ve lost” that’s getting to me. Neither do I see that Donald J Trump would abandon the ship in 2020 because it’s been too hard.

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              • Sayit2016 says:

                honestly that thought never entered my mind not for one second. This swap has had decades to develop and it’s not going to be resolved in 18 19 months…

                The president is working 24/7 and there are probably 20 plates in the air. Patience is a virtue and while that’s difficult while we are seeing what we are seeing eat simply cannot give up to me that’s absurd. Until the president tells me there is no hope we fight on.

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                • ladypenquin says:

                  Good morning, Sayit2016. Yes, I’m feeling better this morning. A good friend reminded me that George Washington lost all his but one of his 17 battles – the last one, Yorktown – gave the Revolutionaries victory over Great Britain. He also mentioned that Washington had to fire a number of his generals before he got the ones to get the job done.

                  Another way to think our way forward here is to remember that Donald J Trump, the businessman, spent decades among the mafia swamp of NYC – he’s never been without a B, C, D, E, plan. Knowing that about Donald Trump the man, has to keep us going forward and believing in is strength as POTUS.

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                • Sayit2016 says:

                  That is correct as I stated in an earlier post , Yorktown was the turning point in the Revolutionary War

                  The fact that we won that war was truly a miracle as we were, were outmanned, outplanned, outgunned and on top of it all Washington was dealing with a mutiny, as a thousand soldiers died because of the Heat. He had retreating generals that were unwilling to fight, it was one crisis after another building up to that defining moment.

                  Yes President Trump is fighting tooth-and-nail everyday but he is one man and cannot do it alone we the people, need to step up and start supporting his efforts in every way we can in ways both big and small.

                  We must fight every single day in every way we can to fight the forces that threaten to defeat us, whoever is left standing wins , we must be that committed.

                  We win they lose. Take heart, stand strong, fight and pray for Divine Providence.

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      • briwas101 says:

        Unfortunately Trump really is as weak and impotent as he seems.
        The impeachment threat COMPLETELY PARALYZED HIM. Trump has the constitutional authority to fire whoever he wants in the executive branch, but the combination of dirty DOJ + corrupt Congress + mockingbird media = Trump either thinks he would lose or doesn’t have the stamina for that battle.
        For one reason or another Trump has 100% abided by the threats that have been made against him and has been hands-off. Either way Trump loses, and that is the nature of the deepstate and the “games” they play.
        Trump fires Rosenstein and/or Mueller, a big issue arrises about impeachment. If Trump does nothing, Mueller keeps working towards impeachment or at least crippling Trump and keeping the deepstate out of prison.

        Honestly, the only way the deepstate was ever going to be taken down was with swift action that likely includes the military.

        When Trump took office, he extended his hand for a sportsmanlike handshake, and the deepstate took a cheap shot and broke his nose. Is he down for the count? No, but he’s fighting with a broken nose, his eyes are all watery, and he’s losing blood.

        That’s what we’ve been watching for 2 years

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        • Firefly says:

          Yep. The FBI didn’t lose any time starting up the investigation on the paten company where Whitaker used to work. I doubt Whitaker will rock any boat.

          Once Florida or Texas goes left where through corruption or idiology change, the globalist own the elections. It’s bizzare the voting problems have been going on so long without either party doing anything about it. There’s still no one held accountable for the malfeasance/fraud.

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          • Do you have a link to the old company and the FBI?

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            • churchmouse says:

              Hot Air has a post about it and why this came to light (to discredit and cow him). Excerpts follow:

              https://hotair.com/archives/2018/11/09/company-formerly-advised-matt-whitaker-criminally-investigated-fbi-accused-defrauding-vets/

              ‘The media is paying attention today to his paid-advisory role with World Patent Marketing, not because Whitaker himself is accused of wrongdoing but because the less legitimate he seems in his new role as AG the less likely he is to do something bold to scale back Russiagate …

              ‘World Patent Marketing, based in Miami Beach, shut down last year after being accused by the Federal Trade Commission of scamming customers out of $26 million. The company charged would-be inventors thousands of dollars to patent and promote their inventions, but provided almost no real services and threatened those who complained, the FTC said…

              ‘Mr. Whitaker was paid a total of $9,375 to serve as an advisory-board member of the company, according to court documents, and appeared in at least two promotional videos the firm posted on its website.’

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        • ladypenquin says:

          Perhaps Whitaker will fire Rosenstein and Mueller. He looks like his shoulders are broad enough to take on some of those swamp creatures. Mueller is under Whitaker for a reason.

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        • Julian says:

          ???

          Trust Trump.

          Trump controls the DOJ.

          Trump controls the FBI.

          Trump controls the CIA.

          Trump controls the NSA.

          Trump has access to everything.

          Trump knows what he’s doing. It’s ridiculous to suggest otherwise.

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        • msAnnThrope says:

          Don’t like but afraid I have to agree. He fell into Resensteins trap by firing comey. That set all this up. Sad. Trump is a good.man. But he sacrificed himself for nothing. America got cancer when Reagan didn’t unload Globalist Bush 1 in 1984. She went into her death throes when she elected a Marxist in 2008. How.long she has only God knows. Not Dr Trump can only hold back the grim reaper but so.long.

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        • lftpm says:

          I disagree. Trump was chosen by G-d. We don’t know what G-d’s plan is, but I trust His Wisdom. He did not give us Hillary, for His reasons.

          Two, Trump too this challenge to help America and Americans, and we see this has born good fruit thus far.

          Three, he is patient. It took him decades to build his business. He weathered many setbacks. He doesn’t give up. He arrived to DC naive to the depth and breadth of the corruption there, but he proved to be an astute observer. He and those behind him and with him have a very difficult row to hoe, but they are making progress. Look at the Kavanaugh nomination. Trump picked a brave warrior who didn’t fold under the monstrous libel campaign hatched by the Donks. Trump himself didn’t fold. Together they inspired Lindsey Graham, of all people, to stand with them. Now we have a Constitutionalist SCOTUS majority–a sea change–and that majority will grow.

          Four, Trump’s adversaries are cunning, ruthless, and evil. But G-d prevails against eve.
          These people trade in lies, debauchery, bribery and blackmail. They deceive, AND ARE DECEIVED. They can be defeated.

          Five, Trump is not dependent on his adversaries’ bribes and other payoffs. Unlike the Swamp denizens, he has not made his fortune on corrupt “public service”, whereby people working careers in government have acquired their ill-gotten wealth by overtaxing Americans, creating money flows of taxpayers’ hard-earned dollars to their cronies’ government-contracting businesses, “nonprofits”, NGOs, even foreign governments, et al, and receiving kickback shares for themselves.

          For example, who believes that the “public servants” who set up the $1.5 B cash delivery to Iran’s mullahs didn’t negotiate a kickback for themselves and their friends? Why do you think the transaction was in cash, rather than in the form of a wired bank transfer, that was traceable, and whose post-deposit redistributions were traceable?

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          • Incisor says:

            I’d upvote this 1000Xs if I could. Well said!

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          • ladypenquin says:

            “Three, he is patient. It took him decades to build his business. He weathered many setbacks. He doesn’t give up. He arrived to DC naive to the depth and breadth of the corruption there, but he proved to be an astute observer. He and those behind him and with him have a very difficult row to hoe, but they are making progress. Look at the Kavanaugh nomination. Trump picked a brave warrior who didn’t fold under the monstrous libel campaign hatched by the Donks. Trump himself didn’t fold.”

            Thanks for the very astute reminder. I’d like to believe the President has some cards still to play.

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          • lftpm- LOVE your post 1000 times. Just what I needed.

            I hope everyone who’s feeling down reads it too!

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        • wolfrom1 says:

          Have Faith// “As there shall be demons, so there shall be angels. And as the war within the world is not the war within the soul, there are those whose demonic strength shall cast terror into the innocents. Yet there shall be warriors, those granted life and breath, to do battle. Therefore, have ye strength, have you faith, have ye courage. Ever and eternally, such a battle will rage, for if there is darkness, there is light, if there is love, there is hatred. So shall they rise, by the strength and goodness of His love and mercy, those who were warriors, and where there is despair, they will bring hope. Thus they fight the eternal battle.” Vatican 12th century

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        • With all due respect, your assessment is far from the truth and should be seen primarily as fearmongering. There were many of these type of assessments in Trump’s first few months. They tended to characterize Trump as a naive “baby man” who required supervision in the same way a baby would. They painted a picture of someone so innocent they believe everything told to them and saw everyone as a potential friend.

          Trump was weighing up Presidential runs since the 1980’s, he has watched, researched and discussed this position for over 30 years.I won’t even begin on how the ‘helpless baby’ assessment is incompatible with a New York real estate billionaires life.But I guess it must give certain individuals some positive return to write such garbage.

          Rest assured, this is not a dress rehearsal for a Trump Presidency.Those who continue resisting the lawful Trump Presidency will eventually face a point whereby in order to continue they will cross into illegality or break regulations. At that point they will run directly into a newly weaponized Justice Department where rule of law has been re-established.

          For example, Trump, Nielsson and Sessions all made public statements before the election specifically warning that election fraud was being monitored and will be pursued to the full extent of the law. Does anyone believe that was a hollow threat? Justice can at times move a glacial pace. The lack of visible activity doesn’t prove lack of activity. Would you invest in building in the path of a glacier? Election fraud looks to me like low hanging fruit to a new AG keen for early success.

          As far as Mueller goes, my opinion on his target and purpoise differs to 90% of people. Regardless of that, having a new AG in oversight of Muellers activities should put paid to anyone thinking Mueller is ‘off the rails’, looking for a crime any crime, about to provide evidence to allow impeachment etc etc. Think about this in the mean time – Muellers shield can also shield investigations beneficial to Trump.

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        • Sadly, I think you’re right. Maybe he can rally back and destroy everyone. Indictments, lock people up, etc., but when you have people like Kellyanne Conway saying she “hopes” Hillary runs in 2020 like that is an easy win, then it seems that Trump is surrounded by the Uniparty who all think this is just some game, playing Chess with our lives while never enacting justice on their own.

          Maybe he’s realized it too.

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      • mikeyboo says:

        I never thought that the President had a PLAN but I do think he is formidable in battle and has NOT stopped fighting and is NOT defeated.

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      • Mike says:

        Bigger question is when will Trump release the unredacted FISA application, the Ohr 302s, and the more extensive Page-Strzok text messages? No doubt the timing has something to do with the Mueller investigation’s end date. Is the rumored Trump written response to Mueller’s questions the sign that the end is near or is it the first salvo in a contentious battle to subpoena Trump. Whitaker can block such an action. Or is the delay in the Gates’ sentencing a ploy to wait out the Whitaker appointment until a permanent AG is confirmed?

        IMO Trump struck some sort of deal with Rosenstein. It is the only explanation as to why he is still there after being humiliated by the appointment of Whitaker as acting AG and taking over supervision of the Mueller investigation from Rosenstein. And self-respecting bureaucrat would have resigned due to these actions.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Muh Russia was NOT the njustification for appointing Mueller. Firing Comey was. The muh Russia investigation is supposedly what POTUS was obstructing, by firing Comey, after ‘pressuring’ Comey to go easy on Flynn.

      Hence, muh RUSSIA investigation gets ‘folded in’ to muellers investigation, but it was NOT the predicate, at least thats my understanding.

      All a sham, of coarse. Create an ‘insurance policy’, by as S.D. says, being able to use ‘ongoing investigation’ as a block, to prevent malfeasance from being investigated.

      And, Rick Gates doesn’t have ANYTHING to do with muh Russia, or phoney obstruction charge, either.

      And, there is no cooperation; like with Flynn, its just a ploy, to maintain an ‘investigation’, so they can continue to use it as a cover or block to any inquiries.

      And Gates, just like Flynn, is going to ‘play along’, in order to stay out of jail.

      After all, all he has to do is remain silent, and not refute muellers claim of cooperating.

      In chess, you use pieces to block the movement of your opponents pieces, pawns most often, but not exclusively.

      Mueller is blocking. Perhaps Whitaker is the ‘white piece’, manuevering to deal with the black pawn (mueller)?

      Manuevering the piece in place may include addressing this bogus ethics issue, maybe even court case; when Whitaker moves, he needs,to be able to do so with AUTHORITY; once he is recognised as AAG, he has options.

      To change metaphores, their has been a reshuffling of the deck; the midterms, changes in personel in the administration, even the caravan.

      Is our VSGDJT’s hand strengthened? I THINK so,…
      Never HAD the House, with Ryan in charge. But, POTUS couldn’t openly fight with House, when it was under Rino control.
      Didn’t LOSE anything in Az. regarding the Senate: went from mcstain and flake, to synema and (presumably) mcsally.
      RR is no longer running DOJ, or overseeing Mueller. If Whitaker holds, and can be used effectively to nueter or shut down mueller, thats a definite plus.

      To those ‘Debbie downers’, all I can say is this ain’t over yet.

      POTUS doesn’t bluff; he said Pelosi can work with me, or investigate, and if war is what she/they choose, he’ll investigate them.

      Its going to be interesting. He STILL has the option of releasing the kraken, and it MAY be the threat of that, that motivated Repub Senators to send the signal that it was o.k. to get rid of Sessions.

      Paving the way for whitaker, …

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      • prOfounDGullet says:

        He had every right to fire…. since the subject at hand was tipping the scales in terms of being judge and jury on HRC….. What we have is a case wherein now investigations can be opened into anyone a top agent does not like in politics, etc… and they can then use that to protect their jobs…. That is not the country we signed up to protect. The Chief Executive has the right to fire and hire as he, or she sees fit. If they thought Trump was suspect… they should of interviewed him prior to the elections…. They did not do that… because they weren’t concerned if HRC won.

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        • DD More says:

          Pro – Also a little known item within the 28 CFR Part 600 – GENERAL POWERS OF SPECIAL COUNSEL Regulations.
          28 CFR 600.7 – Conduct and accountability.
          (b) The Special Counsel shall not be subject to the day-to-day supervision of any official of the Department. However, the Attorney General may request that the Special Counsel provide an explanation for any investigative or prosecutorial step, and may after review conclude that the action is so inappropriate or unwarranted under established Departmental practices that it should not be pursued. In conducting that review, the Attorney General will give great weight to the views of the Special Counsel. If the Attorney General concludes that a proposed action by a Special Counsel should not be pursued, the Attorney General shall notify Congress as specified in § 600.9(a)(3).
          https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/600.7

          So Whitaker says “Inappropriate & Unwarranted” and sends a note to Congress. Over.

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    • All In for MAGA says:

      “However, the ‘trust the plan’ crew believes Rosenstein and Mueller are working on behalf of President Trump to confront the deep state; and everything that appears to be bad news is really just good news we haven’t discovered yet.”

      Where does this notion come from? Q himself/themselves has never said this in any of the “drops”/”posts” on 8chan. There may be Q followers that infer that, but it has not been expressly put forth by Q.

      Exactly who is this “crew” you speak of?

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    • crabby says:

      who or what is FTA?

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  2. azcatsclaw says:

    Why would Mueller and Company walk away from the unending stream of money they’re getting from the government.

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  3. Pristach says:

    Why did POTUS do an about face in the redaction decision?

    I know what has been written here. I don’t think he has the leverage that has been assumed.

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    • Angel Martin says:

      I think it was because RR told him that Mueller would end sooner. That turned out to be a bogus assurance, same as John Dowd telling Trump Mueller would be done soon.

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      • mopar2016 says:

        I knew this was a four year investigation from the start.
        When president Trump wins reelection I expect the investigation to still be there too.
        People need to speak up and ask Mueller about Uranium One and Buraq’s flexibility comment on that open mic.

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      • Julian says:

        If RR told him that no way Trump believed him.

        No one is that stupid. The Mueller investigation is to take Trump down and remove him from office.

        This has been obvious from the start to anyone with a brain.

        Ergo – if Trump is still in office the Mueller investigation can’t end.

        It’s pretty simple really.

        Now that the Dems have the House if Mueller is fired the Dems in the House can hire him to continue the investigation.

        There’s no point firing Mueller now.

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    • NJMAGA says:

      If he released the FISA apps unredacted and major crimes were committed, who is responsible for taking action and prosecuting? If it’s the DOJ, maybe that’s why he waited. He had to get rid of his do nothing AG first.

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    • lanahi says:

      The redaction itself WAS the leverage. Those who have seen the unredacted version say it is explosive and will be a game changer. Two other nations and some senators and bureaucrats have asked or begged him not to release it. I’ll bet it got some cooperation from certain directions, and I’ll bet he has made full use of that cooperation.

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      • mikeyboo says:

        He can always change his mind about releasing the goods if necessary.as in “they refused to play fair”. Revenge is still available and still possible.

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      • rmramerica says:

        lanahi – Tey Gowdy saw it and said nothing dramatic in redactions. Think there is a lot of “hope” by people here. Remember, the reason they call it “hope” is because it doesn’t materialize 90+% of the time. Unfortunately, this ordeal is going on for a long time. Take a breath…and hold.

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      • Leane Kamari says:

        Possibly that is his leverage over Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff and Warner?

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    • Dutchman says:

      All the players know the release would destroy the justification for mueller; show muh rusdia was a set up, and Comey firing was totally justified, and not obstruction.
      Once it became clear POTUS could release, Turtle, Grassley and Graham changed their tune in regard to POTUS getting rid of Sessions.

      I THINK that was the trade off, but I’m just guessing.

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  4. Justin Green says:

    Well, no matter how much chess is being played, it’s the fourth quarter and we’re behind. We can still win, but it’s going to take a monumental change in tactics from the past two years.

    Whitaker can serve for what, 220 days, before a successor must be confirmed by Congress? That may be able to be extended, but expect Congress to take the FULL amount of time appointing any successor who doesn’t bleed blue.

    So it’s pretty much up to Whitaker. He’s got to play hardball. And fast. No amount of rhetoric can change this fact.

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  5. Yy4u says:

    I said here that Mueller was waiting for the midterms. Had the Repubs held the House, the coup would have ended. Mueller will never quit now.

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    • Truth seeker says:

      I’m afraid that’s likely accurate. This is likely to go on as long as Trump is President.

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    • Not Ideal says:

      He’ll quit if VSG announces he will not run for re-election.

      It’s a test of wills, folks. They accept Trump will not resign. They have the House and can wait him out.

      But they really don’t want him running in 2020.

      That’s what this is all about + a Kasich/Haley ticket that loses 40 states.

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      • Firefly says:

        The brazenness of the Florida elections, especially in light of prior years, indicate the globalists almost have control over the outcome of the electorate vote. Texas would be the icing on the cake. So soone we will be voting between globalist on the left and the globalist on the right.

        No one would go thought the hell that PTrump is going through. I doubt we would ever see such an outsider person even capable of running ever again. Who would even have the spine, money and stamina to run – knowing the deep state has six ways from Sunday to ruin the candidate/president.

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        • lanahi says:

          Do you really think there won’t be prosecutions of the voting fraud? They have 41 days to take action after the election to take action, so we’ll know by sometime in December, but I think we’ll end up with lots of people being prosecuted for it and possible special elections. They knew it would happen and planned for it, and they have proof in many cases. By the next election, we’ll have voter fraud protection.

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  6. spoogels says:

    Bombshell Text Messages just found on an old phone support Roger Stone’s Claims About WikiLeaks Backchannel

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/roger-stone-wikileaks-randy-credico-mueller/

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    • mr.piddles says:

      Thanks for the link. Just read it, interesting detail in there. So, basically, it sounds like a number of people already knew Credico was Stone’s source, and has a indirect but very close relationship to to Assange. And if Credico testified to a grand jury that he was most definitely not Stone’s source, then he’s in serious trouble. So why all the focus on Stone? Because Trump.

      “Credico also told Stone that he was aware of Assange’s contacts “Because I’m best friends with [Assange’s] lawyer and leave it at that and leave it alone.””

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      • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

        Why the focus on Stone? He was Trump’s initial campaign manager and a thorn in the side of the crooked Democrats for the past 35 years. The DeepState NWO grand inquisitor Mueller is already torturing Roger’s pal Paul Manafort and would like nothing better than to throw Roger Stone and Alex Jones in a dungeon somewhere.

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      • Zimbalistjunior says:

        Well this pretty much disproves the theory about PDJT campaign. Not only did campaign not hack or countenance a hack ( they had no idea it happened), they didn’t ‘collude’ with Wikileaks to release the hacked documents- Assange did it on his own. Stone only found out via third party and had no input into release or release dates. (Not that legally that would constitute an illegal act anyway but hey mueller likes that vague conspiracy to defraud claim- even that wouldn’t apply here).

        Goodnight. Close the lights behind you mueller.

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  7. Linus in W.PA. says:

    SD, I was always under the impression that the ‘Trust the Plan’ contingent was referring to a white hat plan to expose things. I never understood it to be thinking that Mueller was part of the plan, or even one of the good guys.

    So I’m confused on this one.

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    • jello333 says:

      You’re half right. The more general “trust the plan” was just referring to the assumption that there ARE White Hats working behind the scenes to help protect Trump and eventually help take down the conspirators. I’m in that category, though I think the people behind the scenes are the likes of Mike Rogers. I think THAT is a perfectly realistic scenario. But the problem with SOME of the “trust the plan” stuff was that it involved even people like Rosey and Mueller, and required such convoluted 10D chess moves that the changes of it being true was in the thousand-to-one range. Anyway, in short, not all “plans” should be “trusted” equally. 😉

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    • Not Ideal says:

      Oh no. Mueller is a white hat in “Q world”

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    • Truth seeker says:

      I believe the whole “trust the plan” narrative was a counter psy-op to appease Trump supporters to keep them from making too many waves.

      That seems the most logical answer at this point.

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    • Q was a psyop to keep Trump’s base believing that Trump was safe and things were being managed behind the scenes so Trump’s base wasn’t tempted to get off their *sses, march on Washington, and demand the deep state respect the election’s outcome. If the Repubs tried to do this to a democrat, you know their would be a DC demonstration and civic unrest. As far as I am concerned it isn’t too late. We should march on Washington now and demand the witch hunt be shut down. The fact that a couple of hundred thousand Americans didn’t show up in DC to support Trump in a noisy and confrontational demonstration only played into the deep state’s hands.

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      • lanahi says:

        When was it proposed that a couple of hundred thousand Americans should show up in DC to support Trump? Q anons would have gladly joined that. It’s strange that Q has been accused of hate speech by the left and trying to give rise to violence, but you are saying the exact opposite now.

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        • That’s the whole point! Because of Q, stealth Jeff, and the 50000 sealed indictments a lot of people were convinced there was no need for Trump’s base to noisily and publicly reject the Russian hoax. Like I said, it isn’t too late for mass demonstrations against Mueller, the incoming D committee chairmen and the deep state.

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      • Dutchman says:

        Look how many showed up for the inaugeration. WE don’t DO,…protests.
        WE,…work. Sure, we can camp over nite, to see a rally, but how many can we REALLY get, to march on D.C.?

        And if we did, so what? As we saw with bikers for Trump, if the media doesn’t cover your protest, or rally, it didn’t happen.

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        • So your position is that if responding to the threat to our country represented by the deep state and marxist dems is inconvenient, then you cede day. Got it.

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          • Deb says:

            The point is that spending money to go to a rally that may or may not accomplish anything is something working Americans can’t afford.

            If we knew it would accomplish something, that would be different.

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      • Plain Jane says:

        You do know that hundreds of thousands of peaceful pro-lifers have been marching for DECADES in D.C. every January. There is nearly a virtual news black out on that. The faux news will totally ignore it.

        No, Q isn’t trying to calm the natives. Q builds positive interest in the politics of our constitutional republic.

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  8. this Special Counsel is a crime against the American people. Those of you Repub Senators supporting this clown show are beyond pathetic.

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    • Yy4u says:

      They (Repub politicians) are just hoping the alligator will eat them last. They ceded their souls a long tome ago. POTUS is the last honest man in DC. What can we do go help him?

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  9. Angel Martin says:

    Trump needs to move on the FISA unredaction and related. Don’t wait for Horowitz, he is going to be stalled by Mueller as well.

    I think Trump punted on FISA because Rosenstein told him Mueller would be done sooner. That’s not going to happen so Trump needs to go on offence and unredact immediately.

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    • Not Ideal says:

      He should do all the JFK files too while he’s at it.

      Full and total transparency of the swamp.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Amen !! And PJDT should direct Whittaker to appoint multiple special counsels to:
        1. Investigate the Weiner laptop for criminal release of classified records (with the same criminal “law-and-order” applied to the navy seaman and Reality Winter, and the Weiner “insurance ” files, and other criminality;
        2. Investigate and prosecute the uranium one sale to the russians with $150 million of bribes to Hillary, Bill, their “Foundation”.
        3. Investigate and prosecute the FBI/DOJ “headquarters” prevention of the Field investigations of the clinton foundation;
        4. Investigate and prosecute the” leaks” of classified information by Wolfe, and any instructions given to him to release such information.
        5. Investigate and prosecute the unprofessional treatment of the hillary email investigation that she was “just careless”, and refusal to test the server hardware, and the astounding number of “get out of jail free” cards issued to clinton-obama perps.
        6. Investigate and prosecute “Antifa” and all its leaders and funders, as a criminal conspiracy to violence, intimidation and denial of freedom of speech.
        7. Investigate and prosecute foreign interference by Britain, Australia and other 5-eyes in our 2016 election and other elections.
        8. Investigate, detail, publish and prosecute the enormous number of “unmaskings” by obama-clinton perps and “contractors”.
        9. Investigate and prosecute collaboration by the FISA Court in illegal surveillance for political purposes. (the Justice Department can investigate judicial corruption)
        10. Investigate (with “unmasking”, warrants and FISA Warrants of all NSA recorded communications) the planning for mueller appointment, the “insurance policy” to attack Trump, and the regular “leaks” from mueller and the FBI/DOJ.
        11. Investigate (with “unmasking”, warrants and FISA Warrants of all NSA recorded communications) the “small group” planning and conspiracy within and outside the FBI/CIA/DOJ for sedition and treason to impede and oppose an elected president.
        12. Investigate the use of entrapment and altered/falsified 302 forms rather than recordings, to harass bankrupt and injure citizens, and compel/suborn perjury against political opponents. Entrapment of “Process crimes”, like dropping by General Flynn’s office to ask his recollection of a conversation that the FBI had already secretly recorded word-for-word, then changing the form 302 later to support indictment and bankrupting General Flynn is a Star Chamber” abuse the 5th and 6th amendments were intendwed to prevent.

        Tired of typing…Each inventigation should have a ferocious Special Counsel” dedicated to keep investigating and prosecution until all the perps are indicted and prosecuted.

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    • 4sure says:

      I think he has punted on most things related to the swamp because he is scared of the “impeachment” card. That’s the only area the “I” word has been employed. And like the race card does to many, it stops them dead in their tracks.

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      • lanahi says:

        I just can’t put “Trump” and “scared” into the same sentence and make it appear true. He is bending over backwards to play by the book. He does not want to give fuel to the “Nazi” meme but does want to show the American people he believes in the rule of law. He has not used all the powers available to him, but sooner or later he will have to.

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    • Leane Kamari says:

      You can not unredact Grand Jury material without harming the Grand Jury process.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        That is absurd. There is no reason not to release grand jury materials, especially in “political” prosecutions after 2 years. It is a mantra to protect sedition. The political prosecutor illegally releases information. The Perps know what they did, if anything. THe public should know what is going on. (free speech and everyone should get a press pass to the grand jury)

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  10. Iamcat says:

    I do not understand why anything found under the cover of the FISA that RR signed on our sitting President can be anything but thrown out. That FISA was amended after it was signed and before it was presented to the FISA judge. RR has said under oath, that the FaiSA he signed is NOT the FISA approved by the FISA judge. That FISA is an illegal document.

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    • JL says:

      I’m not sure that’s quite accurate. I believe he said that the FISA that the judicial oversight committee described was not the one he signed. The question then becomes did the judicial oversight committee see the correct one or did Rosenstein see the correct one or is the judicial oversight committee misrepresenting what the FiSA warrant said.

      A very good muddying technique.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        So, what is the answer? Why not release all versions? Unredacted. So what if we learn Britain and Australia were meddling in our elections to help hillary, fusion, Perkins Coie, the DNC. Mueller claims to be trying fo find out about foreign intervention, and we know Britain was involved.

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  11. Bogeyfree says:

    Less than 24 months until the 2020 election so if Whitaker is the Cleaner, there is no time to lose.

    The midterms showed me that the economy and jobs isn’t enough to overcome the left and voter fraud.

    IMO PT must show all Americans, the true evil and corruption of the Dems by exposing everything coupled with indictments.

    This coupled with the continuation of the MAGA Agenda including building the wall, IMO is PT’s best path to winning over more independents and women and getting to 270 come 2020.

    We really need Whitaker to be the real deal.

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  12. I was asked what we should do in a reply to my point, and Sundance’s point, that Americans are allowing this attack on our Republic to happen. This is my humble reply:

    Become on the street activists. As I said the other day, I talk to people about politics and corruption on a daily basis—even at work where it is not necessarily tolerated—but that never stops the lefties.

    The Constitution gives the people the ultimate responsibility to protect the Republic. We have to recognize that we are at war. THIS IS WAR. That is in no way a hyperbolic statement. The very foundations of our government are under attack—the vote, the press, speech, the right to bear arms, etc…

    Yet, we continue to play by peacetime rules—Mr. & Ms. Nice Guys and Gals.

    Additionally:
    When do we stop playing by peacetime rules? Where are the great military minds that see this and are ready to fulfill their oath to protect the Constitution from domestic enemies? Civilians can gather in public and demand that the corruption be exposed and eliminated—this also gives our Commander in Chief political cover to do what is necessary. Again—not hyperbolic.

    Every person posting here believes our Republic is in existential danger. Yes? Then act like it!

    Ultimately, I am not talking about a full blown hot civil war—I am talking about a public We the People AND military intervention that takes out the corruption infesting our government before it gets to the point of bloodshed. Again, not hyperbolic.

    If our elections are corrupted to the point that we no longer choose who leads our government, then we no longer live in a constitutional republic. We the People are not performing our constitutional DUTIES to protect the Constitution.

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    • Yet…here we wait for 2020, then 2022, then 2024…………

      HOPING things will simply change by voting the same characters over and over again—INSANITY!

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      • Julian says:

        You just need a little patience man.

        Trump’s only been in office for under 2 years!

        You need time to build these cases you know.

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        • 4sure says:

          Where’s the sarc tag?

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        • Let me clarify, I know I threw the military in there. I should add at some point in time—however, being activists and getting out there house to house and making our voices heard at every elected house of government needs to start now. It gives the President political cover to do what he needs to do should the time come that he needs the military.

          I think we underestimate the immensity of the problem and need to be ready ahead of that.

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    • JL says:

      I would humbly submit that if you’re not willing to wear a Trump t-shirt out in public or put a bumper sticker on your car then you’re probably not really willing to do what it takes to save this country.

      If every person who supported President Trump wore it on their sleeve, a lot of things would change very quickly. It’s time for us to stop hiding and be seen.

      The President has put his life and future on the line. If he loses, we will see him in an orange jumpsuit in jail, ruined. Can’t we publicly show our support for him?

      Come on, folks. It’s time.

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    • lanahi says:

      I think we have to give our system every chance possible before we rely on military intervention. The military is our last resort, as is another revolution. Both of them would do damage to our constitutional way of government and weaken us as a nation. We have to test the system out to the upmost before we throw it out in favor of force. If we find that we can protect ourselves peacefully, we will know that we have a constitution that truly works, but this is the ultimate test of it. IMO, military intervention would be a sign of failure of our way of life. It’s possible martial law will have to be imposed, but this is an act allowed in the Constitution in extreme cases.

      This very action was supposedly contemplated by our military before Trump ran. But a military take-over would void our Constitution almost completely, and they knew it. We fortunately still have a military made up of patriots, but that doesn’t often happen.

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      • I should have said at some point in time—meanwhile we become activists and very public. This gives the President political cover if the time comes to take action as Commander in Chief.

        I think we underestimate the immensity of the problem. Btw, the military intervention would be constitutional, not anti-constitutional. In fact, the protection of the Constitution is in the oath each military member takes when joining.

        Of course, we should give our system every chance—but when the system is broken, we must act very quickly.

        Respectfully asked: Please define giving our system every chance?

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  13. tunis says:

    Mueller, Brennan and the rest of the Deep State cabal are not kosher folks!

    “What we found in discovery was a memo from John Brennan, then the number 2 official on Obama’s National Security Council – to the Justice Department saying ‘charge him with espionage,” according to Kiriakou. The Justice Department responded, saying that Kiriakou had not committed espionage – to which Brennan replied “Charge him with espionage anyway and make him defend himself.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-14/cia-whistleblower-says-brennan-mueller-strzok-targeted-him-retribution-undercover

    It would be a shame and probably the last opportunity if PDJT does not take down these thugs.

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    • Beau Geste says:

      PJDT should direct Whittaker to appoint Special Counsel to investigate and prosecute FBI/DOJ/CIA illegality and criminal denial of civil rights under color of office (which is a crime)

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  14. para59r says:

    Maybe I’m stupid and missing something but I’m not buying what’s being sold here mainly because of what’s not being proposed which is the release of FISA and all associated docs. Roll that out and everything else IMO becomes mute. Roll that out and Whitaker and everyone on the talk circuit and in print that are on our side can then start to go town. Roll that out and it provides the morale authority for we the people to take action if all else fails.

    Attempting to illegally spy on, in an effort to thwart and unseat a presidential candidate, president elect and president will not stand. That information is still being withheld from the vast amount of the american people and is the key to putting the country back on track.

    The MSM calls all the actions and information gathered by Nunes and others a farce and a conspiracy theory. I guess that makes this place a conspiracy theory site also. I don’t think so.

    Release The FISA!

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    • prOfounDGullet says:

      I think it’s not so much the spy part…. as it’s the framing part the HRC connected people were doing which is illegal. Them trying to bribe Trump people as they came on board is where the real crimes were committed. I guarantee there were other spies that most people don’t know about as well… many of whom could be tied back to Clinton herself.

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      • Beau Geste says:

        Sessions (who was a compromised “mole, it appears), refused new “Special Counsel” to investigate FBI/DOJ/CIA obama-clinton wrongdoing. PJDT and whittaker need to appoing Special Counsel to doggedly, over a multi year investigation with NSA unmaskings, get to the bottom of this illegality. Including the insurance policy” cabal and the mueller appointment with 13 angry biased democrat staff.

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  15. I think it’s now about even money as to which Operation Enduring Insanity will go on the longest – the Mueller “Investigation” or the Afghanistan “War”.

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    • hoghead says:

      Just remember this, Tom. At some future point, the US will leave Afghanistan; the Afghans will still be there.

      Mueller’s dog and pony show also will end someday, if only because the investigators/witnesses/subjects of investigation will start dying off or retiring so they can ride into the sunset.

      Yeah, even money.

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      • prOfounDGullet says:

        My guess is it will carry on into 2020…. They were already effective in flipping the house… just by having it ongoing… and blaring out from leftist MSM all the time. Swallowmywell is out heavy in the news keeping the objective going for the leftist. He is also tied to some of HIRC’s best friends in California who surf with him… and yes they are billionaires.

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        • Beau Geste says:

          There needs to be ongoing “Special Counsel” investigations into all the FBI/CIA/DOJ and DNC/Weiner-laptop classifieds, uranium one bribes, FISA Court fraud (both on the court, and by the court).

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  16. Boots says:

    Did God give us President Donald J. Trump to restore America to prosperity?

    Or to restore America to God?

    ———-

    In the OT, we read how God often chastised Judah and Israel incrementally for their sins of apathy, idolatry, and paganism. From Samuel to Malachi, God sent his messengers and prophets to warn the people they were on the wrong track and needed to return (“go back from where you came”) to Him in their hearts, minds, and souls. Severe consequences were foretold for failure to return. Mostly, the people didn’t listen.

    Around 70 AD, God allowed His own people to be conquered, disbursed, and destroyed as a nation. Their return to their rightful place at His table will come in the future. But from 70 AD until 1948, God Himself allowed his people to be, as it were, homeless beggars.

    COULD IT BE GOD IS NEARING THAT LEVEL OF DISGUST WITH AMERICA?

    Whenever a believer withdraws from under God’s umbrella of protection, they’re exposed to the deadly arrows of Satan. God can’t help the believer that refuses to submit to His protection. The farther you get from God, the more exposed you are to Satan’s schemes and evil. It’s not for nothing that Scripture teaches “The devil cometh not but for to steal, kill, and destroy”. Those who’ve trod the road away from God long and far enough always suffer all manner of loss. Loss of job, home, marriage. Loss of health. Loss of reputation. Financial ruin. Jail. Even death.

    America used to be a nation “under God”. America’s no longer a nation “under God”. The nation of America no longer seeks God. The nation is effectively, actively, seeking Satan. When you seek Satan you serve him. He’s your master. You’re his slave. The master does what he wants with the slave. America’s so far away from God’s protective umbrella that Satan is savagely having his way with her.

    Could it be God knows that without His divine protection America can’t withstand Satan’s final plan to destroy America? Could it be that God, knowing America is on the verge of the death blow of Satan’s plan, allowed Donald Trump to become POTUS, so that America might do this:

    “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will heal their land.” (2 Chron 7:14)?

    When Israel and Judah were confronted with numerically and tactically superior armed forces, the wise kings of each first prayed to God, and then ordered a national day of prayer and fasting. Their prayers acknowledged the enemy was too great for them to overcome by force of arms, “But Thou, O God, knowest what to do, and we wait for Thy deliverance.” (Hezekiah).

    So…..was Donald Trump elected to restore America to prosperity? Or to restore America to God?

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    • Boots says:

      “restore America to God”
      —————
      By giving us a leader who believes what we believe, and who wants what we want for America, the Father has given us HOPE that things will get better because we have a CHAMPION to fight for us.

      But what if besides giving us hope, the Father was – more importantly – giving us four years to get back with Him. Get right with Him. Get our spiritual act together. Humble ourselves. Return (meaning to go back from where we started or came from) to Him in our hearts, minds, souls, and bodies?

      What if God knows we NEED four years of humble repentance and returning so that we can endure the following (X) years of Democratic Communist rule over us?

      I still believe in loud, aggressive, massive protests against the communist takeover of our elections; for all reasons previously stated. But I’m beginning to more and more realize that WITHOUT God, nothing happens; but all things are possible WITH God. (Mat 19:26)

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    • 4sure says:

      “COULD IT BE GOD IS NEARING THAT LEVEL OF DISGUST WITH AMERICA?”

      If God favored one nation over another, maybe. The only nation we know for a fact that God favored over all others is the Jewish Nation. I see no reference in the Bible, Gods handbook for humanity, that favors America or China, or Russia, etc. If God is nearing disgust w/America it is because he is nearing disgust with all who rebel against him. And there are many countries ahead of us in the rebellion.

      So, I don’t think God is disgusted w/America. He is after all, the sinners best friend.

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    • Rami says:

      God answered Abraham when he ask if he would spare Sodom and Gomorrah:

      Genesis 18
      And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked? 24Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein? 25That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right? 26And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes. 27And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes: 28Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it. 29And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake. 30And he said unto him, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there. 31And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake. 32And he said, Oh let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake. 33And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

      We are that 50…we that pray and follow God. It may look like all is lost, but as sure as the sun rises in the morning God will move for his people.

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  17. railer says:

    Whitaker needs to put some walls, floors and ceilings around the Mueller investigation ASAP. That’s the whole reason for replacing Sessions, to get rid of a recused Sessions and put Whitaker in ultimate charge of this investigation, rather than Rosenstein. Mueller and Deep State want this to go on forever, yes, but ultimately their scope of work has to be skinnied down from its current open ended witch hunt to something more focused, and then turned over to regular DoJ personnel to wrap up. I don’t expect that to happen overnight, but after a few rounds of discussion and interim reporting, I expect Whitaker to have a good handle on the status of Mueller’s investigation, and for both of them to develop a timeline for Mueller to wrap up his team’s work and issue their report.

    If at any point Mueller shows any signs of footdragging and continued witch hunting, he’ll have to be dismissed. I expect there’ll be a public airing of the investigation’s status before then, through leaks and even fully sourced statements, so Mueller will be facing sunlight and some controversy if he’s truly running a witch hunt. That will be the foundation for his eventual firing, if he fails to follow DoJ guidelines and instructions. And let Congress hold hearings if they want. If this is all a witch hunt, that will only help expose that status, so bring it on.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Whitaker also has the power of the purse, over muellers investigation. As AAG, he can cut back on muellers budget, in increments AS he asks for status reports, and issues additional guidance, limiting the investigation.

      More likely he tries the beurocratic death of a thousand cuts, before firing.

      Might even push mueller into insubordination, which would then be grounds for firing.

      On the other hand, Whitaker MIGHT just soften the ground, for next appointed AG, who will finally administer coup degrace?

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    • prOfounDGullet says:

      He needs to ask whom the main subjects are they are spying on…. go interview them… and see if the hearsay is truth, or BS….. If it is BS… then cut the funding. Simple as that. We can’t have SC holding our country and the Republican Voters hostage… The Voters spoke in favor of Trump… and he should be able to carry on with his policies… which will now be hindered by the house.

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  18. redhotrugmama says:

    The new AG should open a 2nd special counsel to look into Hillary’s e-mails, Uranium One, the Awan brothers……………….time to go on offense

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    • mikeyboo says:

      Man, I can hear the caterwauling all the way in California.

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    • prOfounDGullet says:

      Open the investigation into the foundation and the Canadian straw firm the money was laundered through…. Then look into the Senators and House members whom are also tied, or connected via 1 hop to the foundation like Swallowell who is good friends with Hillary’s best friends and their kids whom are adults. Someone needs to ask Swallowell whom he is trying to protect and why it is so critical that his Clinton Foundation friends are protected by keeping SC in place to tie DOJ hands.

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  19. zooamerica says:

    3 Major Reasons Why I Think Mueller’s “investigation” Is About Something We Are Not Being Told.

    (Thanks to Chris Schmidt for mentioning Occam’s Razor!)

    The Fundamental Foundation is…

    1. Collusion is not a crime.

    Hillary “colluded,” via paying anywhere between $6 to $12 million for the bogus Steele Dossier.

    The dirty dossier was chalk full of Russian bologna, from Russian sources.

    “Collusion,” is basically called “Opposition Research.” It is not illegal.

    So WHAT exactly is Mueller investigating? Collusion is NOT being investigated, what is?

    Don’t overlook that most basic, simple fact! Collusion can not be prosecuted, ask Hillary.

    2. The Appointments Clause of the United States Constitution…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appointments_Clause

    “but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.”

    ***In the President alone***

    President Trump had full control over the appointment of Bob Mueller.

    Mark Levin wrote an article back in May about how the appointment of Mueller violated the Appointments Clause.

    https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/levin-scholars-muellers-appointment-violates-constitutions-appointments-clause

    Levin overlooked how the Appointments Clause gives the President the authority to appoint any “inferior Officer.”

    If President Trump did not want Mueller, he could have said NO!

    Don’t overlook that simple, basic fact!

    3. Conflicts of Interest

    Mueller’s team of attorneys have a lot of ties to the Clinton’s.

    Mueller and Comey were/are BFF’s. Comey is good friends with the Clinton’s too.

    You know who else was good friends with the Clinton’s and used to be a democrat before he ran for POTUS?

    President Donald J. Trump.

    ——————

    So Who or What is Mueller investigating?

    The Target is?

    In my most humble political opinion, I think Mueller is secretly going after Barack H. Obama.and his Marxist network that infiltrated and poisoned the left/right dichotomy of American politics with destructive extremism that is rotting the fabric of America from within.

    The left and the right in America was never that far apart until Barack Obama and his team of divide and conquer Marxists came along.

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    • lawton says:

      He is investigating tax evasion and unrelated nonsense like that to tie things up for the deep state to cover their illegal spying in Trump etc. That is pretty obvious imo. Look at who is on Mueller’s team.

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      • Brian Baker says:

        “Look at who is on Mueller’s team.”

        Exactly. All Democrats. Hillary supporters. Former Obama admin officials.
        And some people actually think these folks are helping President Trump and are working to take down their friends? While every other Democrat on the planet is resisting MAGA, these folks are somehow supporting it? Uh, no.

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      • VV says:

        I read a theory somewhere that they are trying to cover up all their 2016 spying targets – PapaD, Flynn, Roger Stone, Manafort.
        They spied illegaly, but with their guilty pleas they now can say – see they are guilty, so spying was ok.

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    • 4sure says:

      That dog ain’t gonna hunt.

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    • I’m at the point now where I think the main goals of the Russian hoax were to keep the DOJ out of Trump’s hands because the deep state viewed it as too big a risk, and to taint Trump’s election in the eyes of the independents and democrats for the 2018 election. In spite of the tainting, President Trump still managed to stave off loss of the senate.

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    • agentcommonsense says:

      Totally right..

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    • DD More says:

      ZooAm – That thinking has been around since July, 2017.
      In a notable twist, after President Trump fired James Comey, Mueller was actually interviewed again for the role of FBI director by President Trump himself in a little-reported meeting literally the day before he was appointed as Special Counsel. There is a question to be asked about why exactly Trump was bringing Mueller into an interview for a job that he had already served the full term plus a few years for, especially since Trump had fired his protégé Comey. But again, this article will not contain speculation, only information.
      Then after listing the BIO’s of Mueller’s team comes –
      The important question is why does a team assembled under the mandate to investigate foreign influence in the 2016 elections seem to be less of a panel of election law experts and more of a legal hit team assembled to tear to pieces an international crime ring stuffed to the brim with expertise in financial, corruption, terrorism, and white collar crimes?
      https://conservativeexplorer.wordpress.com/2017/07/19/band-of-brothers-or-harbingers-of-doom-muellers-team-enigma/

      Why would Trump even talk to this Swamp Dweller for a possible Job Opening? Possible answer came on 4chan by annon BB.

      Fine. One more. He’s been pardoned because he’s elbow deep w/ Clinton’s, Obama and both “establishment” parties. He ran a lot of back door channels w/ lots of missing money to account for (personal money too) that he’d never avoid serving time for, if ever investigated. He was trapped a long time ago, like so many, against his will. His vengeance has been earned and his pardon is retribution to decades of corruption. Trump was VERY CAREFUL who he selected to pull from the Obama trenches.

      and FYI, Bannon positioned Mueller to Trump.

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  20. recoverydotgod says:

    There is no reason for the Mueller investigation to not be over and done. His team must like the money.

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    • tunis says:

      No. Its not the money. They get same wage as they got before. It is the Damocles Sword over Trump. Anything he does will be called Obstruction of Justice.

      IMO, PDJT should go for broke and release all the documents and communications unredacted. And he should stop listening to all his advisors and focus on his instinct which is what won him election.

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  21. Baldeep Nobjobbi says:

    Midterm wins –> extend the game.

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  22. mr.piddles says:

    Stepping back a bit, who knows the real relationship between Whitaker and Rosenstein. It’s a bit of a mystery to me, TBH. Sessions hired JUST THE RIGHT GUY (anti-corruption type, no fan of the Mueller Facade) in October 2017? And then, lo and behold, he ends up in the top position a calendar year later? Like Sessions was quietly stacking the deck against what he MAY HAVE known to be a setup or a cover up or a whatever? Something doesn’t add up in that respect, IMO.

    Anyhoo, at the end of the day, and above all else, I will always believe that Sessions, Rosenstein, and Wray are in “protect the institution mode”, and DOJ/FBI actions (or inactions, as the case may be), support that underlying belief. Which, again, begs the question: why Whitaker in October 2017? Did somebody (Grassley) tell Sessions to hire Whitaker as a backdoor solution to Sessions’ compromised situation?

    And what has been the relationship between Rosenstein and Whitaker? Rosenstein wants to deflect and protect instead of truth and justice, and Mueller certainly is the head of the spear on that effort. But at the same time I DO ALSO BELIEVE Whitaker appears to be The Cleaner, and Trump’s seeming end-around sorta lines up. Whitaker’s history and his apparent “DOJ eyes and ears” relationship to Team Trump is not a coincidence. So it’s a bit of a jumble in my mind.

    Now, as far as the Mueller investigation itself:
    1.) Team Trump SOUNDS like (according to reporting this week) they are in the final stages of their **written responses** relationship to the Mueller investigation. This COULD sorta line up with Mueller tying up loose ends with Trump himself, and the Russian Collusion nonsense (which, again according to reporting, Mueller declared as being given “a pile of poo-poo”). IOW, everybody knows at this point that Russia Collusion was a front operation, and it’s losing steam/falling apart.

    2.) From the quoted article: “Prosecutors say they’re not ready for Gates to be sentenced because he is continuing to cooperate with “several ongoing investigations.” Is Mueller following up on the FARA end of things that his team was so hot on? Does this circle back to Podesta, who, according to reporting a month or two ago, is still under investigation (SDNY, IIRC)?

    So maybe this Mueller extension — specifically wrt. Gates, and recently the Stone stuff — really is part of wrapping up the larger whole. Which JUST MIGHT align with Whitaker coming into power, and the very strange (in my mind) relationship Trump and Rosenstein in September/October 2018. Let’s hope we’re 3 to 6 months out from the end of this nonsense.

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  23. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    Time for Mueller’s long running secret Spygate investigation to be wrapped up. Whittaker can give him an ultimatum of say 60 days to turn in a Final Report. If the special ,counsel defies the acting AG then the whole Democrat Coup Operation should be summarily shut down. The media (who think that they should run the country) and their allies in the socialist democrat party will go insane.. The White House then could go scorched earth and replace COS Kelly with Steve Bannon and then it’s Game On!

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  24. jack says:

    I think it would be “wise” to rap up the Mueller Probe in less then 2 months , before the Dems take over the house!

    Swift action is needed, and crack open some eggs and just get it done. The MSM is going to scream bloody murder whatever Trump does, so Trump should just take action, and bring Whitaker into his office and tell him to shut down Rosenstein and start probes into Clinton and the corruption of Mueller and the 17 angry dems. Raid their homes and wake up their wives at 3AM in the morning. Use the same tactics that Mueller used with Cohen and others!

    Come on , get on with it. Who cares what MSM thinks or does, … since Trump will get pounded either way by MSM whatever he does, right? ,…. give the MSM something to really cry about . Like arresting MSM heads/CEO’s for collusion with corrupt FBI/DOJ/Clinton/Obama … and expose the “secret agreement” between MSM and Obama administration (probably started as National Security Measure) and is “secret law or power that was given to Obama” that is not allowed to be discussed.

    You guys know what I mean, Trump needs to act NOW, the mid-terms are over, Sessions is OUT, and for the next 2 months Trump has the House and Senate!

    STRIKE NOW!

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    • jack says:

      Of course, I’m over-dramatizing this, a lot, but , I want action! Don’t you?

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    • Dutchman says:

      Sorry, I must have missed something; while you don’t SAY it, you imply that concern about what the msm will say, is,whats keeping VSGDJT from taking the action you describe.

      This is the same msm POTUS has called “Largely FAK news”, has said ‘fake news is the enemy of the people’ and has just booted one of the biggest purveyors out of the W.H., on his *ss.

      THAT the msm that you think DJT is concerned about? It AIN’T concern about the msm, that is restraining him from acting as you suggest.

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    • Dutchman says:

      Whitaker needs to weather a process, and have legitimacy, before he dors anything substantial.

      Then, there is beurocratic game playing that will go on. Requesting reports, from mueller team, to ‘bring him up to speed, followed by additional inquiries,…auditing yes, “You’ve spent over $20 million, what have you got to show for it? Assuming whitaker wants to, there are all sorts of things he can do.

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  25. Ray Runge says:

    Leverage and stealth Huber and 64 D Chess can step aside. Time ro declaccify all documents and let the chips fall where they may. Big Boy pants are required.

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  26. “Voices selling a pending conclusion to the Mueller investigation of President Trump were dealt a set-back today as Robert Mueller files a motion with the court extending the 2016 Russian interference investigation deep into 2019.”

    Yes. It will never end until someone from outside with authority ends it for Mueller and the treasonous cabal he’s protecting. That was the whole point of Mueller’s appointment, no? To shield the evil doers from sunlight and arrests as long as needed to get another corrupt swamp member to become president or run congress to shield them. They can’t get away with it. We are at the point of no return in this country.

    Corruption everywhere. Sanctuary cities/states aiding and abetting murder and other crimes against American citizens at the hands of illegal foreign nationals given free reign by elected representatives of the American people to do what ever they want in our country. Trump is exactly right, they have blood on their hands. Now when is he going to do something about it and have them all arrested and charged with sedition and other crimes against the United States and American citizens.

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    • lanahi says:

      It seems to me that Mueller taking it to the court for extension is insubordination, because he does not have the authority to take it to the courts…his boss should do that. He should ask Whitaker for the extension, and Whitaker should then sign another FISA or whatever so that Mueller could take it to the court. Mueller is not recognizing Whitaker as his boss yet.

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  27. Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

    There is one, yes ONE elected Democrat who sees special counsel Robert Mueller as a clear and present danger to America. His name is John Milkovich and he is a state senator in Louisiana.

    He wrote a new book just out titled “Robert Mueller, Errand boy for the New World Order”. Watch this interview from yesterday before it is censored by Goggle-Skynet

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  28. JX says:

    Ok I’ll say what many are thinking. US military spec ops under official orders kills the subversives. That’s the solution to a criminal cabal. Do I like it? No. Do I advocate it? No. Will I accept it? yeah. I wish it wasn’t so.

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  29. pnj01 says:

    Mueller is putting the Gates sentencing off until mid-January to protect himself from having to conclude his investigation and give up his report until the Dems have taken power in the House of Representatives. Whitaker ought to use the next two months to “supervise” Mueller by making Mueller give up all his “work product” on various issues. REMEMBER: MUELLER HAS NO PRIVILEGE JUSTIFYING A REFUSAL TO COMPLY WITH A REQUEST FOR INFO BY WHITAKER. WHITAKER IS MUELLER”S BOSS, not an adverse party.

    Whitaker might even have a few people go through Mueller’s files essentially to audit him. If he disagrees with Mueller on certain decisions and the files do not justify Mueller’s position, Whitaker ought to have him defend his positions in writing. If there is any evidence of bias on Mueller’s part, Whitaker ought to have Mueller admit or deny the bias again IN WRITING.

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    • JX says:

      Rosenstein issued a authorization memo which did not specify a crime, how investigating that the unspecified crime poses a conflict for the DOJ which necessitates the appointment of a special counsel, when the expiration of the appointment is, or what criteria must be met for the special counsel to be concluded.

      Rosensten issued an authorization unbounded in time and scope.

      Whitakers first job should be to fire Rosenstien for incompetence. His second job should be to end Mueller’s fishing expedition. His third job should be to recommend all persons attacked by Mueller be pardoned. His fourth job will be to begin acting on Congress’ referrals (Rosenstein, Comey, et al). His fifth job is prosecuting all corrupt FBI/DOJ persons.

      Then FINALLY, the criminal Hillary Clinton must be prosecuted for her numerous crimes.

      Bring ALL these charges within the next 2-3 weeks, and if anyone complains then prosecute them for interfering with an ongoing investigation.

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      • Deplorable_Vespucciland says:

        Yes. Yes. Yes. Do it now!
        Two years was long enough..
        Game over Mister Mueller.

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      • pnj01 says:

        Haste makes waste, particularly when Flake and maybe Murkowski and Collins will want plenty of proof and the Dems will, of course,never be satisfied. The easier thing is to get Mueller to hang himself in writing with well chosen interrogatories. Think like a prosecutor.

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  30. Republicanvet91 says:

    “My hunch is the Special Counsel ‘small group‘ is using court filings to extend the calendar, and thereby the usefulness of their investigation as a shield.”

    It also gives the raving left the message that Muley has unfinished business in the event there was any attempt to fire him. If he’s fired, they will screech endlessly about Trump ending the investigation just as he was about to be indicted.

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  31. Athena the Warrior says:

    How many people know that before our ancestors won the Revolutionary War many skirmishes and battles were lost. There were many setbacks. Even the faithful started to doubt General Washington and actually thought of replacing him. The odds were against them. People were punished for supporting America’s independence.

    The British hired the Hessians to fight the colonists in the war. Outgunned, outmatched, things did not look good for the colonists fighting for their freedom. Plus they had to contend with the Tories who enjoyed living in America but were still loyal to the crown. Oh yeah, the number of people fighting for America’s freedom were actually the smaller number yet they fought.

    Does any of this sound familiar? Their task back in 1775 was so much more difficult than ours. They were fighting to create an independent, sovereign nation. We are fighting to save it.

    Buck up. We have work to do.

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  32. Bogeyfree says:

    Why can’t Whitaker change Mueller’s scope document to include looking at the other side? Specifically with the evidence that has come out can Whitaker order Mueller to investigate those on the other side that have their hands dirty regarding Russian Collusion?

    The second question can Whitaker add people/investigators to Mueller’s team so anywhere Muller and Weismann go so does Whitaker’s addition?

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    • JX says:

      We don’t need Mueller near any investigation. He’s a corrupt thug.

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    • prOfounDGullet says:

      That is what I would do…. if it is not already happening. I would say…. look we are going to look at both sides of this… We are going to look into all these British and CF connections and Senators threats towards Trump, Democrat leaks to Fusion from hearings, etc…. We are going to look into the whole ordeal. If you don’t want to bring on some more folks…. and do that. Then the SC is partial and were gonna wind it down.

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    • montanamel says:

      Exactly “kinda” what I was thinking… Change his “immediate instructions” with specific short term goals, ie….maybe check out the process of how WOLF got his plea deal, report back within 10 days (all the work is done, it’s already in the public doc’s) before Grand Jury presentations, OH….and, by the way, you have a NEW ASSISTANT SC…. Should keep the SC out of everyone’s hair for at least 3 weeks or so…
      Meanwhile, our AAG can start his flushing of F-tards inside DOJ and perhaps turn some weak individuals to “star witness” status… via power of the “retirement plan or none” crowbar…
      Anyway… something like this… IF you are going to boil the pot…make sure you stir it well and regularly…
      Check-6 …

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  33. taxpayer here says:

    What I hope to be Very Likely is Whitaker is AG right now, and as long as no oblablabla judge says otherwise, Mr Whitaker will put a deadline WITH a Specific mandate, that will be adhered to….No ifs, ands OR buts.

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  34. Brant says:

    The Democrats never quit. The Republicans never start. We are exhausted.

    Pretty much the next 2 months, whatever Whitaker does/doesn’t do and whatever Trump does/doesn’t do is pretty much it. If nothing has been done in preparation/anticipation of what the Dims will absolutely do January 2019, that pretty much wraps it all up. I so want something to happen and to believe. Actions, not words. You know you are grasping at puffs of air when the only thing you want right now is that Whitaker is decent and he doesn’t recuse in the first 5 minutes. Meanwhile, dims are stealing elections and Republicans are doing squat. Dims never quit. Reps never start.

    SCOTUS (with hopefully 2-3 more good picks) is probably the only thing that can salvage/protect anything of value for the next 2-3 decades as this country goes who knows where. Sorry for the vent. Dims never quit. Reps never start.

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  35. This slimeball, Meuller, is sitting on a very lucrative cash cow. Why would anyone be so naïve as to think he plans to relinquish it anytime soon?. He’ll milk it for as long as he is permitted to.

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  36. January 3rd is the day the new Congress is seated. By January 4th, the following needs to be done, if not beforehand.

    1) Fire Mueller.
    2) Fire Rosenstein.
    3) Fire Wray
    4) Completely unredact anything and everything having to do with the Russian fiasco.
    5) Initiate a full blown investigation into the current vote fraud currently in process.
    6) Let it be known that any and all persons that have broken the law will be prosecuted to the fullest extent. No passes because of lack of “intent”.

    The time for excuses and delays are done. I judge by actions, nothing else. Either we have a strong president taking action to save the Republic, or we have just another politician occupying the White House.

    Your move President Trump. You work for We The People, not anybody else. Put up or shut up!

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  37. Joey Buttafucho says:

    Watch Above Majestic.
    Seriously.

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  38. P3X-639 says:

    Who could have seen this coming?
    /s

    The only thing more disappointing then knowing the whole “Muller is wrapping up and winding the probe down!” scam was faker than CNN is the number of people on our side that fell for it. Unbelievable.

    /sigh

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  39. Bastiat says:

    The frustrating part of this whole thing is that the voters have done their job by electing President Trump. He is the Chief Executive, the DOJ is part of HIS branch. He has allowed a faction of another branch of government to continue usurping his duly elected power. There is no recourse for the voter. No way to fix it it at the ballot box because that is not how our government is designed.

    Meanwhile we’re hoping that the newest white knight (Whitaker) is going to swoop in and save the Republic. 8 years of “hope” with congressional investigations into the blatant criminality of the Obama administration, 2 more years of “hope” into the Trump administration. When does it end? Because it seems to me it is always just around the corner, but never appears. Meanwhile the Polyannas continue with their “patience” schtick. Who are really the disinformation specialists? Are they going to be saying the same thing when Don Junior runs for president? Just wait, the last 8 years was a set up for Jr. to drop the hammer!

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    • Greg says:

      The nuclear criminal codes will be implemented by PDJT soon. PDJT knows if all the criminals are not brought to justice soon; the Constitution will be eliminated, MAGA will be Reversed and the United States will become a 3rd world country.

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  40. JIM says:

    The swamp created and will continue to sustain the corrupt Mueller diversion. Whitaker will do nothing because he fears the Democrats response. Intimidation works folks, it’s the bedrock of the left.

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  41. Palmettoman says:

    Sundance, what has gotten into you lately…??? The “trust the plan crew”???

    Why are you trying to divide Trump supporters? You don’t know any more than they do what is actually happening. None of us do.

    All I know is I trust our President and know he is smart enough to read the tea leaves. You post all the time about how smart he has been to run circles around Xi, renegotiate NAFTA, spur the economy, pass tax cuts, etc…why do you not think he is capable of doing the same with the swamp?

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    • Zorro says:

      Trump has no power to refer for indictment, indict, to convene a grand jury, to judge or to convict but the Deep State does.

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      • Greg says:

        PDJT has the power to Enforce to Rule of Law:

        The President has many paths, given to PDJT by the Constitution to implement the criminal codes. PDJT can use extreme measures if needed. I would not choose this path; Judicial Watch stated PDJT should have the U.S. Marshall take over the FBI immediately.

        Mueller investigation is allegedly all fake and IMO-is aiding and abetting and framing the President of the United States of Crimes that allegedly Hillary Clinton Actually committed. PDJT has the criminal codes which is written; the criminals have nothing but fake laws.

        PDJT can release all the documents and expose the corruption which is already seen by everyone, showing the evidence would allegedly prove the criminal acts in a court of law; beyond a reasonable doubt x’s 1000.

        Do you really think the President of the United States doesn’t have the power to stop Treason, Sedition, Subversion, Racketeering etc…anyone who believes this also believes the United States and its Constitution will be taken over by Globalism and become a 3rd world country? If that was so, God Help Us!

        PDJT will use the Criminal Codes to destroy the enemy…

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  42. mark says:

    Quick question guys and gals has Matt Whitaker seen the unredacted Fisa Docs in the skiff yet?

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  43. mortgagesforthemasses says:

    One other purpose of the Mueller investigation is red meat for the far left. I know many people who believe everyone in the DJT administration, including the President, will be indicted “Next Tuesday.”

    It work both ways. The Mueller SC, hoax investigation that it is, is the Left’s Q, but very real and dangerous.

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  44. Robert Gendron says:

    the final report won’t be filed until mid aug 2020 so as to NOT affect the presidential election.
    (maybe as late as mid october…talk to cap weinberger).

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  45. Trump Train says:

    SHUT THIS BULLSHIT DOWN NOW DEAL WITH IT NOW SHUT IT DOWN NOW GO AFTER THESE ASSHOLES LIKE A RABID ANIMAL……….PLAY THE TRUMP CARD. 1 MILLION ARMED PATRIOTS TO DC ASAP AND CLEAN THEM OUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH………….I AM SO SICK AND TIRED OF THIS BULLSHIT WHY WIN AN ELECTION WHEN YOU HAVE NO CONTROL………YOU GOT 1 GUY AGAINST THOUSANDS…………..WE HAVE LOST ARE COUNTRY…………….ITS ONLY SALVAGEABLE WITH THE BULLET NOW.

    NO IDEA IF AND WHEN BUT ITS CLEAR THAT IS GOING TO BE THE END POINT. GO AFTER THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE, SOROS, BLOMBERG, THAT POS FROM CA ECT.

    / RANT OFF. SO SAD WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR ONCE GREAT COUNTRY. TRUMP IS A SHORT TERM FIREWALL………………..EVERY DAY IT BECOMES CLEARER ON THE IMMENSE IRREPAIRABLE DAMAGE 8 YEARS OF THE MANCHURIAN MOOOOSLEM DID TO OUR COUNTRY. HELL WE ARE STILL SUFFERING THE EFFECTS OF THE CLINTON PRESIDENCY.

    SICKENING, JUST GUT WRENCHING SICKENING. THESE DEMOCRAT OPERATIVES AND TRAITORS HAVE AND ARE STEALING CONGRESSIONAL / SENATE SEATS OUT IN THE OPEN AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE………….

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  46. JST1 says:

    Why reference the “trust the plan” crowd at all in this piece? Sundance went to great lengths to discredit those folks in an earlier post. Supporters of Sundance asked for that crowd to post on another site. Sundance then asks for civility on this forum. Ned I repeat the opening question?
    The analysis is reasonable without the reference. What gives?

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  47. Hebo Sabe says:

    The left are good at spreading disinformation and lies and the right will listen to every word of it and get confused.

    The left suffer no such confusion.

    MEHGA

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  48. Proud American from Texas says:

    I can’t find where I previously read this. It relates to a Trump Tower encounter pre-inauguration w/ Gates.
    PTrump bumps into Gates, who was on the inauguration team or in charge of it. A newbie was in the room. Pres-elect Trump has learned something which causes him to fire Gates on the spot. He turns to the newbie and says you’re in charge now.
    Does anybody recall reading this? I’ll keep looking.

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    • Proud American from Texas says:

      Okay, it was described in “Let Trump be Trump”. PDJT has looked upon Gates skeptically for awhile due to his workings with Manafort.

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  49. DIRTY Robert Swan Mueller III hs (No) intention of Ending until 2020 to SABOTAGE Pres. Trump’s Re-election Bid.
    ~DIRTY Mueller is the Consummate—>SWAMPY-FOOT-SOLDIER.~
    *The Q-Anon crowd is DEAD-WRONG on their Thoughts about Bobby 3 Sticks.*

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  50. Clearly Mueller is working against Trump on behalf of ideologically aligned groups opposed to MAGA. Whitaker and Congress should shut down the Mueller team post haste. In turn, another Counsel needs to be appointed to look into the Mueller. A RICO task force must be formed by Whitacker to investigate the Clinton-Obama Crime family as well.

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