President Trump Tweets Optimistic Outlook for U.S./Mexico Bilateral Trade Deal – Jesus Seade and Robert Lighthizer are Key…

Earlier today U.S. President Donald Trump highlighted an optimistic outlook toward the framework for a U.S./Mexico trade deal.  Not unanticipated:

We continue to remind everyone to focus on U.S.T.R. Robert Lighthizer and AMLO’s guy, Jesus Seade; everyone else is multinational corporate media chaff and countermeasures.

“We are already looking at all the issues. We might close this, not in a matter of hours, but these days. We still have next week,” Jesus Seade, designated chief negotiator of Mexican President-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, told reporters.

It is important to note that U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer has twice asked Jesus Seade to remain AFTER hours when all other trade officials have concluded discussions. Closed-door conversations between Lighthizer and Seade; and no-one else. [Refer back to the two Trump baselines again]

Now, clear the MSM fog from all perspectives; and instead look directly at the discussion framework expressed by Jesus Seade, AMLO’s guy:

[…] Asked by reporters outside the offices of the U.S. Trade Representative in Washington if Canada would then join the talks, [Seade] said: “I don’t see any reason why they have to come after we finish. It’s up to (U.S. Trade Representative Robert) Lighthizer to organize his time.”

The Mexican delegation — and sources familiar with the closed-door negotiations — have said previously Canada would return to the table as soon as the other two resolved their bilateral issues — maybe even this week. Seade’s comments seemed to indicate otherwise. (LINK)

Previously:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Mexico and the United States are close to resolving remaining bilateral issues in the revamp of the NAFTA trade deal, officials said.

[…] “We are already looking at all the issues. We might close this, not in a matter of hours, but these days. We still have next week,” Jesus Seade, designated chief negotiator of Mexican President-elect Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, told reporters.

“We shouldn’t rush, but we’re already close,” Seade added as he left the Washington offices of U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer following the latest talks on renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Since restarting last month, the talks have focused on settling differences between Mexico and the United States that go to the heart of U.S. President Donald Trump’s complaint that NAFTA has hollowed out U.S. manufacturing to Mexico’s benefit. (read more)

Always draw references from what you know to be empirically true.  President Trump will not accept the NAFTA fatal flaw.  NAFTA is not currently a trade bloc.  NAFTA is currently an internal agreement of terms-for-commerce between the U.S., Mexico and Canada.  Because it is not a trade bloc, NAFTA is bad.

The U.S. is the host (market), and Mexico/Canada are the parasites exploiting free-movement and economic access to that host.  Without new NAFTA rules; making it an actual trade bloc, where Canada and Mexico can only engage with 3rd parties based on the NAFTA group rules; there is no value in NAFTA.

That’s why Trump has essentially sidelined any 3-way discussion, and is engaged in bilateral trade talks.  In addition to hiding the ‘fatal flaw’ U.S. financial and corporate media are willfully blind and intentionally obtuse on this key point.

All indications, look at it from a 30,000/ft level, are that Lighthizer has explained this to Seade.  President Trump wants to see the Mexican economy gain stability and strength; and he is willing to afford time and economic value toward AMLO to achieve economic strength and more broad-based economic stability; however, team Trump will NOT allow the current exploitation to continue. Period.

Therefore, Mexico has an incredible opportunity…. but only ONE opportunity…. THIS opportunity…. to take advantage of the offer.  If they politicize the deal; if they mislead, scheme, or attempt to covertly structure a trade relationship that undermines the basic offer…. POTUS Trump, regardless of opinion or political pressure, will deliver an economic backlash of the size and scale never seen.  Mexico has one opportunity.

After the terms are finalized, Mexico will likely have a time-frame where POTUS will permit the slow withdrawal of the ‘fatal flaw’ issue, while simultaneously supporting Mexico’s own internal growth in manufacturing and economic independence.

This is also the goal of AMLO, who wants to see Mexico gain economic independence from the manipulation of the multinational corporations, Wall Street and vulture economics driven by Chinese interests; and this outlook builds the framework of the Win/Win.

It will take time for Mexico to withdraw from prior corrupt agreements with multinational corporations who have invested in exploitative enterprise and bribed corrupt Mexican officials.   President Trump is EXACTLY the guy AMLO needs to help guide him through a complex business and economic process of extracting his country from the tentacles of economic exploitation.

Canada is an entirely different kettle-of-fish.  Expect no magnanimous Trump approach toward Canada. Hence Jesus Seade said: “I don’t see any reason why they [Canada] have to come after we finish. It’s up to (U.S. Trade Representative Robert) Lighthizer to organize his time.”

By politicizing their economic interests, Justin and Chrystia have made themselves an economic adversary.  Battle-hardened Trump, who is impervious to political pressure on trade/economics, will not relent.  He simply doesn’t care.

In July 2017, after a speech by former President Obama to the Montreal Board of Trade, Obama instructed Trudeau on how to best weaponize his economic policy to join the anti-Trump resistance. [Conversation pictured above]

President Trump isn’t stupid; he is an apex predator when it comes to the issues of trade, commerce and economics.  Trump knew the scheme, he knew the meeting, he knew the likely direction that Trudeau and Chrystia would take after receiving these instructions. And, in typically predictable form, Justin from Canada followed the left-wing plan and began working against any NAFTA renegotiation.

Justin and Chrystia intentionally planned to undermine any change and scuttle the negotiations.  Hence the demands for gender issues and climate change within NAFTA.

The Canadians made a choice.

No-one forced them to make this choice.

There are no sympathies deserved.

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142 Responses to President Trump Tweets Optimistic Outlook for U.S./Mexico Bilateral Trade Deal – Jesus Seade and Robert Lighthizer are Key…

  1. DanO64 says:

    Winning.

    Liked by 17 people

    • CMDCMRET says:

      Bigly!

      Liked by 9 people

    • Hope says:

      Folks up here in Canada are extremely brainwashed. The schools indoctrinate youth with, “diversity is our strength” every day of the week. The CBC is controlled by the leftist fringe of the government. The few real conservatives are afraid that if we don’t get rid of Trudeau in the next election, the globalists will have won and taken over. I know it is galling to hear the words of the useful idiots up here in the attic of North America, but some of us conservatives know what is going on. We need your encouragement, moral support and prayers!

      Liked by 8 people

      • Rhoda R says:

        You have them. Wasn’t there a recent Ottawa election that raised a flicker of hope for the future?

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      • CaptainNonno says:

        We had to endure 8 years of Obama failing at every aspect of governing except globalism and division. It may take ordinary Canadians to endure that pain to grow more conservative voters. Not sure who is in the wings but a conservative candidate who draws from the people is what got us over the hump and a great slogan to rally around.

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    • Another Scott says:

      For Mexico and the US this sounds like Win-Winning

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  2. Margaret Berger says:

    LOL “it is up to Lighthizer to organize his time”. Says it all.

    Liked by 40 people

    • sundance says:

      It is rather a perfect encapsulation, isn’t it.

      😀 😀 😀

      Liked by 42 people

      • starfcker says:

        Yes it is

        Liked by 1 person

      • Curry Worsham says:

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        • Curry Worsham says:

          OOps! Wrong link!

          Liked by 2 people

          • Shark24 says:

            Well, I happen to like Mariachi so thanks to the pleasant interlude!

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          • jsteele9 says:

            Curry

            Your picture reminds me of my 1st trip to Mexico City when a small Miriachi band began singing in a restaurant.

            During, “I left my heart in San Francisco,” they would stop and hold out their hands to the patrons who never asked them to perform. We’d never seen this before. During the only trip to San Fran, a creep tried to steal our camera when it was resting on our bench next to me. I got it back.

            Advance to 34 seconds.

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          • tonyE says:

            If you like Mariachi, then you’ll know Mariachi Los Camperos de Nati Cano.

            They used to come up to Costa Mesa every Christmas and have a three hour show at the large hall in our Performing Arts center. It’s a fantastic song, music and dance show. It incorporates some elements of Southern and Spain about 300 years ago, plus german touches (from Tejas) and stuff they themselves invented.

            Simply, outstanding. The only mariachis that sound better without drinking a beer. They play songs that in Spain are considered from “Antes de la Guerra”.. that is, before the Spanish Civil War (or maybe the Cuban American.. I never asked). You seldom hear them in Spain, but oh -it’s great!- to hear them play it. Hard not to get teared eye.

            Now, most mariachis are best after dos o tres Negra Modelos. And a lot of those bandas are loud! We frequent a place in Santa Ana ( Hector’s Mariscos ) that gets a banda on weekends. Make sure to sit along the north wall (farther away) because it get LOUD. The food is awesome and spiiiiicy. Mostly coastal Pacific around Acapulco stuff.

            It’s good to hear that Mexico might get its act together. I’ve been in TJ only twice and I was saddened at how prejudiced and mean they can be to each other down there. Specially how they treat Los Indios. Broke my heart seeing it because there was nothing I could about it. And, no, don’t import them into California.

            Meanwhile. in Calimexistan we have lots of entitled “latinos” and chicanos. Pendejos who I would never hire to even clean my toilets. Yet, lots of the illegal aliens are actually good people and hard workers, unfortunately they are the wrong people in the wrong place at the wrong time. We need to send them back homes to jobs where they can sustain their families… At the same time, we must not lose jobs in America. Heck, I think what Trump is doing is brilliant. He understands that to MAGA we must make Mexico Lindo after all.

            A great culture down under, in need of some major clean up and civility/love towards each other. I’d love to visit Guadalajara someday.

            Why yes, I do like Negra Modelo and good carnitas. 😉

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      • Rhoda R says:

        Trudeau/Freelander are so screwed.

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      • Liam Song says:

        It’s interesting to note the tone of the discussions with Mexico. Despite the serious initial posturing by Trump and team, the talks are not, and have not been about an American strategy that seeks to take advantage of Mexico, or even one that is narrowly focused solely on US gains. Instead talk seems to have been consistently about making things work for everyone, and why shouldn’t it be so? In different ways NAFTA was not good for any of the participants. Globalism hollows countries out, robbing the populations. Trudeau and Freeland are too busy trying to fit into the fairytale globalist narrative where politics is reduced to finger-waving dissent of anyone not utterly preoccupied with making the world fair via equity of outcome. Preening with self-righteousness they completely miss the point, and pointedly miss the opportunity to take proper stock and make real changes. And for what? Polite applause from the other idiots in the G8?

        We are at that moment just after the Emperor in his “new globalist clothes” has been called out. Now, with any luck, Trudeau will wake up to his foolishness so that when he scurries for cover, and Trump shakes off his justified impatience and says, “ok, somebody put some real clothes on that moron and get him back here. We have some work to do,” Justin will stop and finally listen. Trump, in his playful tone, would say something like “Might happen. Could happen, we don’t know.” Americans might do well to remember that not so long ago they too had a leader as out of touch as Canada now suffers.

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        • CaptainNonno says:

          I am looking forward to the resolution of manufacturing issues and tariffs btwn US and Mex. Can’t imagine how Mex will give up the auto factories yet we want those jobs back. AMLO needs manufacturing. So maybe a trade off for the wall and border security and drug cartels? I read he’s tied into the cartels though. Interesting to watch.

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          • Clarissa says:

            Certainly the cartels helped him get where he is now, yet in the future they would only be a millstone around his neck. “Mad Dog” Mattis could make short work of the cartels, just as it was with ISIS before them.

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        • tonyE says:

          Yes… like I wrote elsewhere… the philosophy should be:

          Make Mexico lindo to MAGA.

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    • Sunshine says:

      Brilliant Trump. My admiration for the man knows no bounds. Quite the team he assembled.
      Canada is doomed more ways than one. Even the opposition party supports Trudeau’s NAFTA stance. Are they ever in trouble!!

      Liked by 17 people

    • fleporeblog says:

      Mexico 🇲🇽 doesn’t give a rats ass about Canada 🇨🇦! The new Mexican President wants to do right by the people who put him in office. It was the everyday Mexican not the elite in their country.

      You are absolutely right about Canada 🇨🇦! What Justin did to our President and his representatives at the G7 will never ever be forgotten or forgiven. Our Koala 🐨, 48 hours after Justin’s little stunt, suffered a heart attack. It is beyond personal for our President. He is going to crush Justin.

      His goal is to bring all the auto manufacturers back to the USA 🇺🇸. He will accomplish that by signing a bilateral deal with Mexico, killing NAFTA by EO and imposing a 25% tariff on cars, trucks and parts imported from Canada.

      The great thing is that Congress cannot stop him.

      Mexico has some serious issues that is killing their tourism sector. Look at what recently happened in Cancun, Mexico:

      From the article linked above:

      Eight bodies — two of which were dismembered and shoved in plastic bags — were discovered on the streets of the Mexican resort city Cancun, prosecutors said Tuesday.

      Authorities made two of the eight grisly discoveries at midnight Monday in the trunk of a taxi, Rivera Maya News reported. A man and a woman were found dead inside the vehicle’s trunk parked outside the Chedraui de la Multiplaza shopping mall, according to the report.

      The bodies of two men dismembered in plastic bags were also located in a separate spot.

      On Tuesday, authorities found one man bound and shot to death. Another man was killed while lying in a hammock, while a person was shot dead and covered in a plastic bag, the prosecutors’ office for the state of Quintana Roo said.

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      • Donna in Oregon says:

        Mexico gets it’s Fentanyl from China. There is a partnership in the drug trade.

        Mexican drug cartels often take bulk pure fentanyl from China and then cut it with any number of substances, from heroin to cocaine to methamphetamine to cheap fillers such as sugar and acetominophen.

        Flowing in one direction, this fentanyl pipeline runs through Mexican cartel strongholds and heads north on well-established drug trafficking routes. It funnels 80 percent of the drug through the San Diego border before dispersing throughout the U.S.

        The pipeline flows in another direction, as well, direct from Chinese laboratories to U.S. customers through the mail, bringing small, hard-to-detect packages of extremely pure fentanyl to suburban doorsteps.

        http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-fentanyl-pipeline-20180617-story.html

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    • Kenji says:

      Restating the obvious is one of the deepest burns possible (to Canada). Ouch! What do the kids say? Well played … well played.

      Liked by 1 person

  3. FL_GUY says:

    Every day in every way I am thankful that we have President Trump!

    Liked by 31 people

  4. GrandpaM says:

    Justine and Crustia chose poorly…

    Liked by 11 people

    • nigelf says:

      Yes they did, and we will try and amend this abomination in October of next year.
      With Canada’s economy about to take a vast nose dive it shouldn’t take too much.
      Trudeau owns this and the voters will voice their displeasure.

      Liked by 13 people

    • MelH says:

      You can LOOK at them and know they are Liberals and know they would have a lifetime of making wrong choices, beginning with her maroon dress. Meow!

      Liked by 4 people

    • sundance says:

      Liked by 27 people

      • jsteele9 says:

        sundance:

        You might be interested in watching a short clip of Andrew Scheer, the new leader of the Conservative Party in Canada. He gave a long speech at the Conservative Convention yesterday. If you go to 26:10, you can see what Scheer said about Trump and the trade impasse. Astonishing ignorance.

        Maybe if Scheer was actually the PM in Canada rather than just an opposition leader, he would be more informed on the trade issues but it is not likely as the American MSM is the major source of news in Canada.

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        • Bert Darrell says:

          Politicians! Always telling people what they want to hear instead of what really needs to be done to make progress. And they claim they are for “free trade”. What free trade? The one where they apply import tariffs and we don’t?

          Liked by 3 people

        • tageweb says:

          Wow! The Stupid is Strong in this one!

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        • jeans2nd says:

          Does this Bozo realize the U.S. is #1 producer in LNG, coal, and oil? What a doofus. Canada can keep their dirty old tar sands oil. Good luck finding a refiner.
          Word is, Saudi Arabia has influence over that cartel of theirs, and Canada is not exactly high on the Saudi’s friends list right now.

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          • patsfaninpittsburgh says:

            What he’s getting at is Canada needs to get that Trans Pacific Pipeline built to get their oil out through BC. My bet is he knows that the oil will not be needed here in the US and will sell at a very serious discount in the near future.

            One thing I would advise is treepers love America First and should never disparage a foreign leader talking (insert county) first from that leader.

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        • jsteele9 says:

          Thumbs up to all the replies above.

          Scheer stupidly and recklessly disparages Trump (with inaccuracies) and then dismisses the economic reliance on the USA as if it is just an annoying kid’s Kool Aid stand on the corner that should have its supply chains cut. Then he brags about “laying the ground work for future trade negotiations with PM May” and a pending trip to India.

          I’ll bet the excited officials in India are counting down the days by how many sleeps are left before he arrives. I doubt if busy PM May even remembers him.

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        • Lack is not all says:

          Nice natural eyebrows, Mr Andrew.

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        • Deplorable_Infidel says:

          “He gave a long speech at the Conservative Convention yesterday.”

          In some instances, politicians are deliberately not revealing their true knowledge of the facts. In NYS for instance, what is said downstate finds it’s way upstate and what is said upstate the people living downstate find out about.

          The situation is ubiquitous wherever big city libs (with the majority of votes) impose their views and policies across the rural parts of their states.

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        • pyromancer76 says:

          Think about the label “Conservative Party.” What does it mean these days?

          Liked by 3 people

          • wolfmoon1776 says:

            LOL!

            All the old Latin American political scenes used to have the “Radical Party” – who were invariably more conservative than the true hard leftist parties with more moderate names. I used to think that was nuts, but I guess our socialist Democrats who are really Democratic Socialists but pretend not to be are just as bad. It’s all kinda Orwellian now. 😀

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          • WSB says:

            Exactly. I have noted for years, this label needs to go away. For good. Too many have abused it. Trampled on it and condemned it. Take a lesson from Saul Alinsky. Change it.

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      • Kenji says:

        Sorry Ezra … it serves our interest to give all the juicy trade plums to … the brown people. After all … we have PBS spokespeople calling for white genocide. Might as well start in the Great White North, eh?

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  5. Mncpo(ret) says:

    I’m so glad that Seade and Lighthizer seem to get along well together. That makes negotiating so much better for both sides. If they’re meeting after official negotiations are done, that’s a great sign for both countries. Canadian’s, friendly advice, don’t bring up climate change or woman’s rights. Just a hint from a friend.

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  6. Disgusted says:

    The words “The Wall” never appeared in this article even once! That is the discussion I am waiting to read about!

    Liked by 1 person

    • JoAnn Leichliter says:

      Mexico is strongly considering tightening up their southern border control and clamping down on pass-through visas, or so I have read. That would be a big help to us as we continue to erect The Wall.

      Liked by 6 people

      • Bendix says:

        Well they don’t want to be stuck with all that riffraff on their side.

        Liked by 1 person

        • Shadrach says:

          They don’t seem to have much difficulty sending the riffraff back. I’d imagine a part of this deal is that Mexico will stop encouraging/helping migrants headed to the US to pass through Mexico. Probably another reason Nielsen was there.

          Mexico will need help soon with the Venezuela problem…maybe that’s helping them understand things better from the US point of view.

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          • Excellent thought on Venezuela.

            Millions of Venezuelan Migrants are being unleashed on South and Central America.

            Perfect LEVERAGE for President Trump in pulling together an Americas Alliance for Border-Immigration Control, Trade, Energy and Defense … at the expense of China’s Entanglement Expansion.

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      • Kenji says:

        Huh? and here I was TOLD that the Cartels approve everything … or people die. Hope we don’t end up having to resurrect Jebuz

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    • trapper says:

      When there were more manufacturing jobs than workers to fill them in America nobody cared about the wall. Only after NAFTA hollowed out the American economy did we start fussing over the crumbs left behind. Make America great again, and bring Mexico along with us. Plenty of Chinese manufacturing jobs to be brought back to the Western Hemisphere, with state of the art plants to be built and maintained and staffed and run. Bulldoze the old, fallen down, rusted out piles of bricks that were once American factories, and start pouring the concrete. We’re back in business.

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      • Every new American Manufacturing Factory displaces a Chinese Factory.

        To minimize our high-cost labor content, we’ll become the AUTOMATION NATION.

        Every new American manufacturing job will displace MULTIPLE Chinese jobs.

        Every new American factory will produce HIGH quality products to displace Cheeap Chinese Crap.

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  7. Deplore Able says:

    Trudeau stabbed PDJT in the back after the G7 conference. Trudeau hardly waited for the President’s plane to leave the airport. That wasn’t a very good idea and Trudeau will pay the price for his treachery.

    Let us hope other world leaders are paying attention.

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    • prenanny says:

      From the moment TRUMP took the escalator to announce his candidacy he spoke about what a POS NAFTA was, it was a major part of his platform that he mentioned at every rally. NAFTA was destroying America – end of.
      President TRUMP is fighting FOR America, no idea what trudeau is fighting for and it does not matter – he and canada are irrelevant.

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    • James Street says:

      President Trump is a cold shower to a world that was sliding to the left. I wonder how many will wake up. It’s touching to read comments on various blogs from people from other countries around the world who are looking to President Trump and the United States for hope.

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  8. GB Bari says:

    Sundance, or anyone –
    I was trying to find the difference between a trade bloc and NAFTA and ran into a problem.

    Wikipedia, on it’s ” Trade bloc” page, includes NAFTA as an example of a trade bloc.
    Investorwords also cites NAFTA as “The most well known trade bloc..
    Intelligenteconomist also calls NAFTA a type of trade bloc.

    Can anyone clarify the difference between NAFTA and a trade bloc?

    References:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_bloc
    http://www.investorwords.com/8237/trade_bloc.html
    https://www.intelligenteconomist.com/trading-blocs/
    http://economicsonline.co.uk/Global_economics/Trading_blocs.html

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    • prenanny says:

      They are not trading their own goods, they are middlemen for China.

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    • sundance says:

      A real trade bloc (EU example) governs rules of commerce between a group of countries *and* establishes a set of trade standards for all external countries who engage in commerce toward the members within the bloc..

      NAFTA is not a true trade bloc because it only establishes the rule of commerce between the U.S., Mexico and Canada. It does not establish consistent rules upon external nations toward the three NAFTA members.

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    • Normally Quiet Observer says:

      +GB Bari … IMHO … based on what I know, a ‘trade block’ is a group that are, by mutual agreement, forced to negotiate TOGETHER, like the EU does – NO Outside Deals on anything economic – PERIOD for the Member states in the EU. They are not allowed to negotiate ANY outside deals without the complete ‘blocks’ approval, and then the deal applies to ALL members equally.

      In the case of NAFTA, Mexico and Canada would have never been able to enter into the “sweetheart” deals with the Chinese, or any other manufacturers of parts, or raw materials, in the way they have in the past. One of the NAFTA Members (USA) would have stopped those deals from going through, if it was a true trading block. Defeating American Tariffs by trans-shipping, and ‘content’ percentages, that damage American industry, and we lose assembly jobs to Mexico and Canada both. Those DEFEATS of our tariffs, and import content rules with other countries, are why the entire thing had to go!

      Therefore, NAFTA is not a “trading block”, but the EU most assuredly is.

      EX: Right now, imagine if the US wanted to hypothetically give “Favored Nation” status to France, so we could get all of their wines completely without Tariffs … France is NOT ALLOWED to even discuss that kind of agreement – because of the EU “Trading Block” they are members of. All 27 members of the EU would have to agree, and be given similar status by us. Which of course will never happen with how the EU is operating now.

      EX2: In a “Trading Block” the ‘control committee’ of the block makes all decisions regarding exports/imports, and the destinations for crops, what is grown, or raised, where, who can manufacture what, etc.. Currently 95% of the seafood that is fished out of the territorial waters (12 miles from shore or less) of the UK, is NOT allowed to be sold directly to the people IN the UK! By order of the EU it is sent elsewhere. Most of the fishing industry that actually fishes these waters today are foreign vessels – killing the British fishing industry. If the UK wants it, it has to BUY IT BACK from exporters in Europe, and Scandinavia! Also, most of the lamb meat production in the UK is sent to the continent as well (what little there is any more as the EU has stopped most of it), and then the UK must import it from New Zealand (EU Has a trade agreement with them for their lamb) ! The Brits for one, eat a LOT of lamb, (like hamburger in the US) and it used to be raised there – until they joined the EU (formerly the ECC – European Commerce Commission) and it was stopped. That is how a ‘trading block’ operates. These are just a few of the many reasons for the BREXIT vote 2 years ago!

      Sufficient explanation? Hope it helps!

      Doc

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  9. bluesky says:

    I despise Obama. Pox on any fool that still listen to lil’barry,

    Liked by 3 people

  10. Apfelcobbler says:

    … demands for gender issues and climate change …

    Now what nutjob wouldn’t want to die on that hill? freakin hilarious

    Liked by 5 people

    • Kenji says:

      Un freakingly stupid. And the good Canadian people (who didn’t vote for the spawn of Pierre Trudeau) will pay the price. An even higher price than their excessive carbon tax loaded hydro bills.

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  11. Bendix says:

    Chrystia should have called that woman in the above picture, for advice on how to dress for these things.

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  12. railer says:

    We have an incentive to help Mexico’s economy prosper, as that will assist us in stemming the illegal alien invasion, and is thus to be considered part of “the wall”. I believe there is a way to hold Mexico harmless in these trade changes, by making China absorb the tariffs that will be placed on the Chinese transshipments. If everybody works together on that including the US, Mexico and the automakers, then these transshipments can be categorized and quantified and the appropriate tariffs applied, with the bill delivered to China (and the Euros as necessary). They can absorb it, the automakers can absorb some if necessary, and thus the existing Mexican manufacturing operations can remain undisrupted. Some of the residual tariff cash might even be shared with Mexico, and even with the automakers if that made sense. There is a win-win-win buried in this somewhere, for we on this continent at least.

    Canada can just sit and watch and be forced to accept a cramdown of whatever is negotiated with Mexico and the automakers. Or accept a massive tariff, either/or.

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  13. kenfirch says:

    Ironic the picture above Trudeau and Obama shows a semi truck on its side. Talk about a train wreck about to happen!

    Liked by 6 people

  14. Stab, the unstoppable hero says:

    This is soooo great. Last week on Varney I was watching Obama’s former ambassador to Canada, Bruce Heyman talking to Stuarts sidekick. Heyman was absolutely certain that NO trade deal could be implemented without Canadian approval. He rattled off the same old cliche’s about US / Canada being greatest allies, biggest trading partners, blah, blah,etc.. Stuart’s sidekick doing the interview seemed doubtful that the President couldn’t negotiate without the purple Chrystia Freeland (spl?) at the table but this Heyman (typical bug-eyed screecher) insisted that Canada had to be included or NO DEAL !!!
    I’m gonna DVR every Varney if a USA – Mexico deal gets announced & hopefully see this Heyman again. He might freak out & start channeling that Phil Mudd clown. Fingers crossed.

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  15. John says:

    You make the pie bigger for Mexico by having them be the sole middle man for China. Then you slowly close the loophole over time. Basically Mexico is going to steal Canada”s business while we enact the auto tariffs on Canada. Chinese companies move here to manufacture the parts over time as the loophole closes. Maybe we get some silence about the wall too. It’s a concession to Xi as well.

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    • starfcker says:

      We don’t need to make concessions to China.

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    • powderdayrules says:

      John, I loved your first three sentences…but we are in an economic WAR with
      China. Screw them and their companies. Screw Xi as well. Don’t let up until their people revolt.

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    • Good point.

      The Tariffs on Autos from Canada shuts down their auto assembly plants.

      Canadian auto assembly plants are then relocated to America for the Tariff Savings.

      The relocated Auto Assembly Plants begin to source parts from American factories that are being rebuilt, fed by America’s new and expanded Steel and Aluminum facilities.

      As they ramp up, they reduce Mexican exports to America.

      Mexico can begin to source parts from American factories and export the assembled autos to Latin and South America instead of the increasingly self-sufficient United States.

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      • Rhoda R says:

        It would be nice if Mexico could develop their own auto industry. Heavy industry is important to any economy – tourism/drugs are just too iffy.

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      • Donna in Oregon says:

        Here’s what happened to Detroit. If anyone is interested in how Canada fared with NAFTA vs the USA. I think it’s just a drive across the Ambassador Bridge. By the way, Detroit didn’t have the money to fix the bridge so Canada had the money and the jobs to do it.

        So don’t feel too bad for Canada…..in Detroit they didn’t even have the money for street lights at night……

        Windsor now home to Canada’s largest manufacturing workplace
        FCA Canada’s Windsor Assembly Plant is Canada’s largest manufacturing workplace and Windsor-Essex has morphed into the country’s automotive “epicentre,” says a new report.

        DOUG SCHMIDT, WINDSOR STAR Updated: April 25, 2017

        https://windsorstar.com/news/local-news/windsor-now-home-to-canadas-largest-manufacturing-workplace

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  16. John says:

    Let’s see if Obama get invited to Canada again anytime soon.

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  17. Bill says:

    “Justin and Chrystia intentionally planned to undermine any change and scuttle the negotiations. Hence the demands for gender issues and climate change within NAFTA.
    The Canadians made a choice. No-one forced them to make this choice.
    There are no sympathies deserved.”

    For next car purchase, country of origin will be critical factor in final decision.
    Canada isn’t the correct answer. (Boycotts work two ways…)

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  18. Shadrach says:

    I’m wondering whether Canada gets pushed out of 5-eyes, frankly. One country was on the outs for a while (NZ over China)…all indications point to Canada earning that title in the near future.

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  19. Angel Martin says:

    I’d like to slam Trudeau by himself over how this has been mis-handled, but Scheer Boredom is just as bad.

    As much as the USA, Canada needs to re-industrialize and start producing our own stuff again.

    Instead of importing crap from China and stamping some of it “Made in Canada” to go into the USA tariff free.

    I keep hearing US steel plants investing and reopening. Nothing of the kind is happening in Canada.

    US Steel Stelco in Hamilton closed its blast furnace 5 years ago. It just rolls chinese steel.

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  20. jsteele9 says:

    If Mexico is going to wait for Canada to agree to anything reasonable in a 3 nation deal, they might have a very long wait.

    Justin is a freshly promoted Lieutenant in Obama’s well organized Foreign leader Resistance Brigade and as the speech video above by the new Canadian Conservative Party leader Andrew Scheer indicates, he is pining for a Major’s position in the same anti Trump Resistance Brigade. So, in 2019, if Justin loses the election, the ignorance and intransigence of the new leader will likely be worse for trade negotiations.

    It appears that anti Trumpism has replaced Hockey as the favorite sport or past time in Canada.

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  21. TeaForAll says:

    McCain is dead. Now all the rinos will come out with praise and glory. .

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  22. Donna in Oregon says:

    Thank you Sundance for putting NAFTA into one, concise statement. It’s the best I’ve ever seen. George HW Bush called it “The New World Order” in his speech 9/11/1991 and he championed NAFTA.

    George H.W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, and Mexican Pres. Carlos Salinas de Gortari. Preliminary agreement on the pact was reached in August 1992, and it was signed by the three leaders on December 17.

    NAFTA, New World Order…..and then finally 27 years later, a relevant and accurate statement that explains everything (finally)!

    “The U.S. is the host (market), and Mexico/Canada are the parasites exploiting free-movement and economic access to that host. Without new NAFTA rules; making it an actual trade bloc, where Canada and Mexico can only engage with 3rd parties based on the NAFTA group rules; there is no value in NAFTA.”

    Thank you!

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  23. treehouseron says:

    It’s been clear to me, as a small-level businessman that this entire time President Trump was going to eventually get to a ‘win win’ situation with all of these countries. Mexico’s been screwing us, but it doesn’t have to be like that. We can get to a place where both countries are doing well with this relationship. Hopefully we’ll have some of the business people who aren’t completely Globalists calm the hell down a little bit once things are stabilized with Mexico.

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  24. TreeClimber says:

    Am I still the only one who finds it surreal that Hugo Chavez 2.0 is currently one of our greatest economic allies?

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    • rbrtsmth says:

      However socialist he is, AMLO just saw the SS Venezuela keel over. He needs an expert to help him build a real economy. The drug trade and legalized public sex in Guadalajara isn’t good enough.

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      • jim says:

        “He needs an expert to help him build a real economy”

        Yup. Donald Trump will turn out to be the best president Mexico ever had.

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    • patsfaninpittsburgh says:

      A better way to look at it is it appears the guy realizes that on it’s current path……Mexico is destined to be a slave labor country existing to enrich the globalist elite.

      That’s correct. Talk about the forgotten man.

      What real wealth does a country develop through assembly and warehousing?

      Why shouldn’t the Mexican economy assemble and make say 20-25% of car parts sold in NA?

      I would see us with 65-70% assembly/content…..Canada can have a residual balance.

      The reality is the best way to solve the border problem is good jobs in Mexico with good wages.

      Think of the wealth generated when all that China made stuff comes home.

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  25. LBB says:

    Something favorable happen with Nafta today? Maybe something modified on sunset clause . Smoothing of the last lump.

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