Andrew McCarthy Discusses The Stunningly Scant and Manipulated FISA Application….

Andrew McCarthy appears on Fox weekend to discuss the released FISA Court application used to obtain and conduct Title-1 active surveillance on U.S. Person Carter Page.

McCarthy’s response is worth watching because he only recently (May) red-pilled himself and realized how corrupt the DOJ and FBI had actually become.  Prior to May of this year he was defending/reconciling every new detail to the benefit of DOJ/FBI.

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371 Responses to Andrew McCarthy Discusses The Stunningly Scant and Manipulated FISA Application….

  1. DeWalt says:

    Andrew said what I said yesterday. No way would I have ever gotten away with this in my line of work. Judges better say they never read it (bad enough). But to say you read this and let it fly? They put these judges in a tight spot also. What did the DAGs say about it? Rosenstein all but said no he didn’t.
    I guess raised your right hand and that was good enough.

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    • jbowen82 says:

      Many of the people involved thought they were actually going to find Russians. Let’s hope enough of them are honest enough to admit the conspirators were wrong, and their “end justifies the means” methods were wrong too. Hundreds of people executed this domestic surveillance operation, even after the President had been in office for several months – some were dirty from the get-go like Strzok and Page, but others were worker bees who got dragooned into it and trusted their leadership. That trust was misplaced. It is time for them to come forward now.

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      • rmnewt says:

        Speaking of finding Russians, I’m thinking you may want to knock off drinking so many white-Russians. Many people were and are looking in the wrong direction for Russians. They were there with Hillary and that is not what they want. They cant stand the swamp drainer, Trump.
        https://magicskillet.com/recipe/white-russian-cocktail-recipe/

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      • Alonzo says:

        Unlike you, I happen to believe that MANY people were dirty from the get go, simply because they didn’t view President Trump as Presidential (regal) enough for the office of POTUS, even though they are conservatives a.k.a. never Trumpers. The flip side is/was the Democrats, some of whom at the top were as corrupt as the day is long. I left the party when they screwed Bernie, because the party of JFK had vaporized over time. I know lots of people who couldn’t pull the handle for Hillary. It will be interesting to see how many return to the party of cheats and free stuff for all. I was a fiscally conservative Democrat and I wasn’t alone in fiscal conservatism.

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        • CaptainNonno says:

          For both sides it’s about the money. The majority of which came and comes from China. This is where it will all end up. Don’t forget, it’s China that got all the Clinton emails. Russia has nada on Trump but China has it all on Clinton et al.

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        • fakenoozisforfools says:

          because the party of JFK had vaporized over time

          Yeah, by about 1965.

          You mention people who didn’t pull the lever for Hillary might treat her as a one-off, possibly returning to the “D” fold in 2020. You don’t mention if you plan to be one of those people. Leaving the party because Comrade Bernie got a raw deal from fellow comrade, Hillary Clinton, doesn’t exactly put you in Candace Owens territory.

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        • Lucille says:

          Thanks for your comments, Alonzo. There are a lot of former Democrats who come here to CTH. The more the merrier!

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      • petey says:

        Nope , they are going to double down to take out DJT

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    • mr.piddles says:

      “From 2009 to 2015, for example, more than 10,700 applications for electronic surveillance were submitted, and only one was denied in its entirety, according to annual reports sent to Congress. Another one was denied in part, and 17 were withdrawn by the government.”

      https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fisa-wiretaps/story?id=45913892

      Checks called. He said to let him know if you’ve seen Balances anywhere. They were supposed to have lunch. Something must’ve come up. *shrug emoji*

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    • Fools Gold says:

      Maybe not a simple question but if you were a FISA judge, watched MSM LSD for 8 years prior, watched how Oboma caused the worst divide in the country since slavery, controlled the DOJ and intelligence apparatus along with FBI, would you be complacent with approving a FISA warrant with MSM hashtags as source information for justification?

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  2. Michael Droy says:

    Steele coverup,
    Skripal Skripal Skripal, Novichok, Pablo Miller & Steele.
    As Steele role gets more and more publicity, time to discuss where the info came from.
    Steele works in Orbis Business Intelligence, a private UK company. He lives not far from Salisbury.
    Pablo Miller, also ex MI6 works in Orbis too and lives in Salisbury.
    Miller run double agent, Skripal also lives in … … Salisbury. He and his daughter (engaged to a Russian intelligence agent apparently) were notoriously poisoned in March. A rather incredible story, not least that they survived! Despite the news control over the whole story the UK government has also added 2, probably 3 D-Notices, commands to the media not to reveal or even refer to certain facts.
    One relates to Steele, another to Miller, and the probable third was to the subsequent poisoning to a couple recently. That incident was not dropped by the press the day it happened and not returned to till nearly a week later.

    In comparison, Seth Rich looks like unfortunate victim of a mugger.

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  3. Howie says:

    Trump is letting the deep state carcass decompose….Phew! It really stinks. I shall keep clawin’ away.

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    • Plain Jane says:

      Howie, so true. PT IS letting the carcass decompose, and in IMHO, this is the wisest course for many reasons. The stench will seep into the pores of the guilty slowely and linger forever.

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      • Roberto says:

        I sometimes wish more people here could/would understand this strategy. This is probably the largest and most complex conspiracy/corruption investigation in the history of human events, yet some people want to treat this like a lock-em-up, run-of-the-mill bank robbery or auto theft case. It isn’t.

        The longer this “drags out,” the better for us.

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        • Plain Jane says:

          It needs to drag out. Yes, I’m nearly as antsy as the next grandma, but I know a deep cleaning takes time. Superficial cleaning leaves germs behind. 🙂

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        • David A says:

          It is extremely large and complex. Just as China mercantilism was like the Robber Barons on steroids, on an international level, the deep state globalist are RICO criminals, also on an international level!

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  4. Lactantius says:

    McCarthy has publicly swallowed his “pride.” He has openly and clearly admitted that he got it wrong in putting so much trust in the professionalism and integrity of the system.

    Pride and Vanity are the same among the seven deadly sins. (Envy, Gluttony, Lust, Anger, Greed and Sloth are the other six.) But pride and vanity do often take courses different from one another.

    Strzok is so vain that he thinks he can talk himself innocent. McCarthy has allowed his pride in the institutions to cloud his judgement. Upon reading the FISA documents, he has stepped up and admitted that his pride is indefensible. McCarthy thereby values his integrity.

    In another post, Sundance wrote this: “Context: The current DOJ and FBI elements of the intelligence community are only slightly less corrupt internally than they were prior to the Trump inauguration. Institutionally they are still full of corrupt individuals; and administratively they are managed by people concerned about retaining the institutions – not eliminating the corruption. In our ongoing opinion this institutional emphasis is misplaced and misguided at best, and complicit at worst; likely more the latter.”

    What Sundance is actually addressing is pride and vanity. “Saving face” is an act of pride. It appears that much of the “redacting” is prophylactic for saving face. When an institution can no longer face up to its own failings, the first victim is the institution itself.

    What we have here is very serious breakdown in the rule of law. Most judicial canons speak of the rule of law as that which binds society together in a state of truth and justice.

    “The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” is swearing to three different and highly important conditions: 1) the facts are true; 2) all of the facts are stated, including those that cast doubt; and 3) there are no distractions meant to obscure meanings or confuse.

    Clearly, some of the DOJ – FBI – Intel folks have been caught up in out-and-out lying, fudging the truth and pulling a lot of taffy. They have lied. All lies are the same: they are not the truth.

    One can side with a political philosophy and be a judge or other officer of the law. All that is required is that the person NOT bring his political opinions to his rule of law work.

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    • Angry Dumbo says:

      McCarthy has publicly swallowed his “pride.” He has openly and clearly admitted that he got it wrong in putting so much trust in the professionalism and integrity of the system.

      Good on McCarthy. Going to take a lot of honest people to fix this. Precious few so far.

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    • Ldave says:

      I’m healing a foot today and watched the Ken Burns documentary on Vietnam. When Truman was prez, Ho Chi Minh wrote him letters, arguing that all he wanted was independence (from French occupation) like America. Our unquestionably honest intelligence community intercepted the letters and Truman never got them.

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      • Chewbarkah says:

        Very interesting. I’ve often wondered what might have happened if the US had offered independence to Vietnam, and even a security alliance against China, instead of supporting French imperialism, then repeating their sins and errors on a grander scale.

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    • ron Milam says:

      He never had the pride per se, he was just going by his personal experience on how things should be done. Of course he thought nothing like this could ever happen, but when fascists like Obama get in this crap is what follows.

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    • Drogers says:

      ‘Strzok is so vain that he thinks he can talk himself innocent. McCarthy has allowed his pride in the institutions to cloud his judgement. Upon reading the FISA documents, he has stepped up and admitted that his pride is indefensible. McCarthy thereby values his integrity.’

      You may not wright a more true and powerful statement this year.

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    • GB Bari says:

      Thank you Lanctantius. IMO yours are serious, accurate, and well-articulated thoughts.

      Your comment should be incorporated into a Presidential address about this farce.

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    • Donna in Oregon says:

      McCarthy, like Newt wrote a book.

      They want to make money off our POTUS. The allegiance is not to the American people it’s to their own bank accounts.

      McCarthy could care less about justice, the longer this goes on the more money he gets to make.

      We are our own best advocates……the media and their talking heads are a bunch of liars and thieves feeding off the Swamp teats like all the other anti-American globalist punks.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “All lies are the same: they are not the truth.”

      I have a friend who signs her emails with this:
      ===========
      Rita

      There can be a lot of truth in a lie,
      But there can be NO lie in the truth.

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  5. Eric says:

    So here’s the other component that’s atypical. It’s unusual you would get a judge to sign a warrant, then have a subsequent warrant on the same case and not go back to the original judge. The judge who signs the warrant is not supposed to be able to sit on the case, it’s standard that if you used them once you keep going back if it involves the same thing. My suspicion is all these judges are in different areas and probably don’t/wouldn’t run across each other.

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    • Cathy M. says:

      True on what’s typical and I’m inclined to agree that it’s highly unusual that the FBI had four different judges on this case.

      But keep in mind that the FISC-
      ” is composed of eleven federal district court judges who are designated by the Chief Justice of the United States. Each judge serves for a maximum of seven years and their terms are staggered to ensure continuity on the Court. By statute, the judges must be drawn from at least seven of the United States judicial circuits, and three of the judges must reside within 20 miles of the District of Columbia. Judges typically sit for one week at a time, on a rotating basis.”
      http://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/about-foreign-intelligence-surveillance-court

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  6. Donna in Oregon says:

    This is dragging on too long. Those Treepers that have had to deal with criminals know that there is a 6th sense one gets when the bad guys are up to something. This whole Congress Swamp vs DOJ/FBI Swamp thing stinks. ‘B’ movie performances, lousy theater.

    Goodlatte and pals say the American people “need to know this”. What a load of BS, what difference is ‘knowing’ going to do, eh? Not a damn thing. Goodlatte is McCain without the brain tumor. McCain of “take out the Tea Party” crew….meanwhile, everyone reads on about this crap that is going NO WHERE!

    The real problem? Voting. Voting corruption. While everyone is watching this crap the voting is being “readjusted” by the Swamp. I read that Dems have signed up 12 million new voters. Voting corruption is why Hillary didn’t worry about getting elected…..and voting corruption is how the Swamp plans on winning again.

    12 million votes must be the number Swamp came up with to take us out.

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    • Howie says:

      They have had their six.

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    • Lindenlee says:

      This is the thing that worries me tremendously. Republicans SHOULD be setting up boards of investigation in every state, anticipating massive vote fraud in inner cities. They should have professional paid watchers at every precinct, trained in the exact fraud tactics used in each state (they will differ from state to state), to be on site.

      For God’s sake, they KNOW this goes on… Why aren’t they preparing for this? I called my LOCALCREC office and volunteered as a poll watcher, have done this many times, and asked to be trained in the sneaky things to look for, and the person in charge had not a clue! Duh!

      The sloth and ignorance is as much of a danger as the fraud. Disgusting.

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      • Cheri Lawrence says:

        FYI Judicial watch is working on this issue state by state. Just sued Kentucky to clean up the voter roles and won. I agree it is a huge concern however the electronic tampering was somehow assuaged in 2016 so I trust that the electronic gaming issue the deep state was using has been resolved. Remember Stzok said “Hillary should win 100,000,000 to 0” Hence the shock of them all that night knowing the polls were rigged hahaha!!

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    • Oldschool says:

      Excellent post Donna. The continuation of ignoring this infuriates me. WTH happened to the commission led by Pence?

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  7. snellvillebob says:

    One has to wonder how many cases used data from FISA warrants gotten similar ways and how many retrials are going to be required. I will most likely be in the hundreds, maybe thousands. Note the the FBI and DOJ did not do this before Mueller took over the FBI. He has a history of putting innocent people in prison, one set of them the US Government had to pay out $110 million to victims and the families of the two who died in prison. In that cast Mueller withheld evidence of their innocent from the defending lawyers in discovery.

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    • i don’t think so. Carter Page is a very rare instance of the FISA warrant being revealed via a leak to the media. Most will never know there was surveillance on them as an American Citizen that was supposed to only be used to track imminent terrorist threats on US soil. The actual charges brought in their cases would be from missteps found by through that clandestine surveillance. But they would never likely know.

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  8. roccoboy1 says:

    Sadly as much as this should make a difference in terms of opening people’s eyes, I don’t think it will because the media is a propaganda machine and will go into hyperdrive to dismiss it, to cover it up. Before I had even heard that the FISA documents had been released, I heard someone I know, who is on the left side of aisle, say something to the effect of FISA was released and showed that Nunes was lying. Clearly this will be the spin and the Left will eat it up because it will be what the media will propagate. They will focus on the footnote as confirming that judge informed that dossier was source. Then they will not admit that media reports which supposedly were provided as other sources were in fact based on circular reporting going back to the dossier. Only those who want to get into the weeds will be able to discern the truth. And I dare say that those will be few and far in between.

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  9. Ditch Mitch says:

    Fake news, they always skew the data in their favor big time. Dems are leaving the party in droves. Oh ok maybe they don’t count the leaving only the new voters. OR, they inflate the data so they can cover the illegal votes.

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    • KittyKat says:

      For some reason your post reminded me of the Sunday school teacher I once had, who at the annual church bazaar, rigged the “fishing pond” so’s her daughter got the best prize.

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    • trialbytruth says:

      Fairly easy to get get street registers to tell people they need to re-register Just in case theirs got lost. It fills the registers page and gives good numbers to report for the blue drain.

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  10. Concerned Virginian says:

    Was driving between Point A and Point B today for a total of about 5 hours. Did a lot of moving around on the car radio dial including FM stations in addition to the AM stations. The top and bottom of the hour news reports were pretty uniform all the way, even Fox Radio joining in, all saying that the “over 400 page release of documents were related to the investigation of Carter Page being a possible Russian agent” (this last was verbatim from a CBS News Radio report).
    Then there was NPR radio. Program from them today focused on how Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh both went to the same “exclusive Catholic prep school, Georgetown Prep” and stating that this would make Kavanaugh try to do away with Roe v. Wade. Program also had some female from a Catholic “progressive” group that endorses abortion and ties that to the teachings of THOMAS AQUINAS about choosing from “freedom of will” so it’s OK for a Catholic female to have an abortion.
    Eventually I gave up and listened to country western stations.
    BUT—lots of people still get their news and “opinion piece” programs from radio.

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    • AlinWonderland says:

      Know what you mean. Seems the whole world has gone mad, blind. Makes me wish the treehouse was on radio. It’s one of only a few sources I trust.

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    • Deplorable_Infidel says:

      “the teachings of THOMAS AQUINAS about choosing from “freedom of will””

      That is a warped perspective of his teaching, but what do you expect from a group like that? I have only been studying Aquinas for about 26 months. My fellow students and professor would be in a much better position to refute that claim than I would. Theology, not philosophy, is my thing (Col. 2:8)

      https://strangenotions.com/author/dr-dennis-bonnette/

      “…Dr. Bonnette taught philosophy at the college level for 40 years, and is now teaching free courses at the Aquinas School of Philosophy in Lewiston, New York…”.

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      Funny (not) how no-one looks at the baby’s take on things, that is to say, his or her welfare and well-being, not to mention, very existence…

      Right to privacy? My hiney. How about the BABY’s RIGHT TO PRIVACY, as in avoiding implements of murder and destruction, D&C, and so on???

      Hmmm. Washington D&C… has that Pelosi and Clinton “ring” to it…

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  11. Blue Moon says:

    Has John McCain released his views on all this yet? My hubby told me the other day that McCain was going to outlive me.

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  12. not2worryluv says:

    I’m starting to think perhaps Jeff Sessions is the plant.

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  13. California Joe says:

    Having spent over 30 years in federal law enforcement including 15 years at the DOJ Criminal Division I can certify that NEVER would an agency head condone or remotely cover-up misconduct or criminal behavior on the part of a subordinate, investigator, special agent or prosecutor. At the slightest hint of wrong doing a swift and through investigation would be conducted afterwards guilty heads would roll. The cover-up by Rosenstein, Mueller and Wray is completely unheard of in overseeing federal law enforcement and prosecutions!

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    • Doreen Scott says:

      In eight years obama has corrupted our entire government.

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      • Deplorable_Infidel says:

        “In eight years”

        The corruption has had 24 years to rot, so the scum could rise to the TOP (of the Federal Agencies). This started with WJC, because it is my understanding that GWBush did not purge the government of Clinton Korruptshun in the spirit of “bipartisanship” (code for uniparty/ shadow gov’t swamp maneuvers )

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    • BobR says:

      Why do we need to know about the evidence? Indict,convict, sentence and someone will write a book about it. It sounds like a slam dunk. Where are the Federal Marshals?

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      • Oldschool says:

        Agree bob. The argument that many here make about some need to painstakingly, slowly spoon feed the public every detail so they can understand and accept before any action can be taken is beyond ridiculous. If there is a crime, charge it, try it and punish it. Been done that way since man made laws.

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        • 4sure says:

          ” The argument that many here make about some need to painstakingly, slowly spoon feed the public every detail so they can understand and accept before any action can be taken is beyond ridiculous. ”

          Beware of paid deep state plants. They do exist and they do post on blogs. And they do pass themselves off as one of the good guys.

          Jus’ saying.

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          • OSP says:

            And some deep state plants could just as logically demand immediate release of unredacted documents and arrests of the suspects, giving the MSM time to deny & deflect, and allowing perps to walk when the case is not solid against them.

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          • Cuppa Covfefe says:

            Concern noted.

            Look up double jeopardy (not the game) and see if still want to sing the same tune.

            Foul it up, it’s over.

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  14. teeheeman says:

    This is from DB Daily Update which is a good read. Is August even possible for the next OIG report??………. seems way too optimistic on timing:

    “The next step in that process will be the release of the Horowitz report on FISA abuse, which will probably take place in August, less than three months before the mid-term elections.”

    http://dbdailyupdate.com/index.php/2018/07/22/judicial-watch-drops-a-fisa-abuse-bomb/

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    • ristvan says:

      Dunno. horowitz promised it in March. Lots of these previously (the sample I reviewed) if ‘simple’ take 4-6 months. August is therefore possible, but I suspect Sept or early October is more likely. August is summer dog days, not much happens.

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  15. The Boss says:

    OK – this warrant is a piece of fiction and it was approved once an re-approved thrice. How god-awful was the one from June 2016 that it was rejected? And we know why they needed a FISC warrant – to retroactively justify the illegal spying on Trump and others which had been shut down in April 2016 by Adm. Rogers.

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  16. DanO64 says:

    Come out it will.

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  17. Paco Loco says:

    POTUS sure could use an Attorney General to represent the people’s interests and investigate how three FISA warrants were issued on phony grounds.

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  18. Doug Amos says:

    Don’t believe any athletes of the last 50 years are clean and aside from Mr Trump and Dr Carson don’t think any of these politicians are either.

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  19. Newton Love says:

    Lock her them up!
    Lock her them up!
    Lock her them up!
    Lock her them up!

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  20. KBR says:

    See Sundance on topic “Rosemary Collyer” (type into search engine this page) for pertinent information about the original FISA application as opposed to copies provided by DOJ.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/15/fisa-court-presiding-judge-rosemary-collyer-responds-to-chairman-nunes-and-chairman-goodlatte-request-for-fisc-documents/

    Here ^ for instance, Chairman Goodlatte of Judicial Committee requests original FISA application after he has seen the DOJ version apparently in order to compare the original FISA one to the DOJ version.

    Collyer responded, but not with a yes.

    No followup by Goodlatte? Why not? Hold her in contempt of Congress!

    IMPEACH all four judges and maybe we will see this court come crashing down or at least make judges actually required to at least READ before SIGNING. What good are judges with rubber stamps? Any clerk can do that.

    It has long been my opinion that signing any document indicates legally that a document has been READ and approved by the signatories.

    Ordinary persons who sign a document are naturally assumed to agree with the statements therein, and can be held accountable for each part therein. We don’t get out of our loans and mortgages later by saying “sorry, but I did not read that so my signature does not mean that I must actually pay it.”

    If you sign a document, you sign your approval of it, and that indicates that you have read (or had it read to you if you are illiterate or blind) and understood and agreed to the contents therein.

    Judges ALL know this.

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  21. Hi, California Joe: You assure us “Having spent over 30 years in federal law enforcement including 15 years at the DOJ Criminal Division I can certify that NEVER would an agency head condone or remotely cover-up misconduct or criminal behavior on the part of a subordinate, investigator, special agent or prosecutor. At the slightest hint of wrong doing a swift and through (sic) investigation would be conducted afterwards guilty heads would roll. The cover-up by Rosenstein, Mueller and Wray is completely unheard of in overseeing federal law enforcement and prosecutions!”

    Really? After the sniper assassination of Vicki Weaver (by a now-infamous member of the FBI’s brilliantly Orwellian “Hostage Rescue Team”!) in her kitchen in Idaho (while she held a 10-month-old baby in her arms) was there “a swift and through (sic) investigation” after which “guilty heads rolled”?

    ( see http://jimbovard.com/blog/2012/08/22/20-years-ago-at-ruby-ridge-fbi-sniper-slays-mother-holding-her-baby/ .)

    In fact, FBI sniper Horiuchi was then dispatched to the Mount Carmel Church in Waco Texas, where he shot unarmed church members from ambush . . . right? Then the FBI pumped a tear-gas agent in a flammable suspension into the building, set the place on fire with their ferret rounds, and held the fire engines more than a mile away while all the surviving women and children (the ones not already murdered by the attacking BATF gunmen and later by the FBI snipers) all roasted till they were nothing but crunchy black cinders, right? (And no, no “machine guns” were ever found.) At that point was there “a swift and thorough investigation” after which “guilty heads rolled”? Or in fact didn’t all your federal law-enforcement buddies get raises and promotions, and hearty public congratulations from a gleeful and cackling Sen. Charles Schumer?

    Didn’t the Washington Post report in April, 2015: “Nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000,” adding “the cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death”?

    Didn’t that Washington Post article note that “admissions from the FBI and Department of Justice “confirm long-suspected problems with subjective, pattern-based forensic techniques — like hair and bite-mark comparisons — that have contributed to wrongful convictions in more than one-quarter of 329 DNA-exoneration cases since 1989”?

    How many of those “examiners in an elite FBI forensic unit” are now serving time in federal prisons, Joe? Remember, we’re talking cases in which defendants were SENTENCED TO DEATH. What on earth do you mean when you say “guilty heads rolled”? They were sent home for an extra week-long paid vacation?

    Others have asserted, if now asked during jury selection whether they would believe federal prosecutors and FBI witnesses, they would say “No.” But that shouldn’t be your biggest worry, California Joe, because the judges who draw their paychecks from the same places as your comrades, the federal prosecutors and those FBI witnesses, will conveniently dismiss THOSE prospective jurors, hoping to assure federal prosecutors they won’t have to deal with any real (and terribly inconvenient) “randomly selected juries.”

    No. Your problem is all the wised-up Americans who will now tell the judge OF COURSE they’ll trust the FBI witnesses . . . and then vote to acquit their fellow citizens of all charges, anyway. ESPECIALLY now that we know how skeptically out federal judges examine all those warrant applications. (Fess up, now, Joe — these federal judges pre-sign a sheaf of blank wiretap warrants so no one will have to wake them up at night, right? I mean, if you’re going to approve more than 99 percent, anyway . . .)

    Congress and the President don’t NEED to disband the FBI and the DOJ (although they surely should.) They’re dead men walking, already.

    Three crooks can’t corrupt an organization made up of 120,000 honest Americans. If they tried, they’d have 30,000, 60,000, 90,000 resignations on their desks within a week. Where are the resignations, Joe? Come on. It’s all “Business As Usual, Till the Pension Rolls Around.” — V.S.

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    • Cuppa Covfefe says:

      There are probably quite a few good, honest, decent, hard-working individuals working for the various TLAs. There are probably also quite a few “fence-sitters” who survive by using “situational ethics” depending on the, erm, situation, i.e. they have neither the guts nor the gumption to do the right thing.

      Then there are the rotters, like Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, et. al. who know exactly what they are doing (even if they play the fool, like Clapper), and are all in it for themselves.

      The trouble is, how to separate the wheat from the chaff???

      Someone mentioned on another thread an oil-rig specialist/troubleshooter up in Alaska, who would just fire everyone, and start out fresh (wish I had the link, sorry). The point being, eventually the bad apples spoil the proverbial barrel, so that even the good ones are tainted. Recovery and repair is all but impossible, and absolutely impossible in the short timeframe needed.

      In short, fire the bl00dy lot of them, and start afresh. Those who ARE honest can do what all the rest of us sometimes have to endure in the REAL WORLD: reapply for your current (or another) position, and see what happens.

      Having said that, were I in one of the current TLAs, I’d be embarrassed to admit it. Kind of like being a pianist and admitting you were part of the “entertainment” at a honky-tonk, aka whorehouse… No lipstick on earth can fix THAT pig…

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