In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…

In 2013 Carter Page was working as an “under-cover employee” (UCE) of the FBI, helping them to build a case against “Evgeny Buryakov”.  In March 2016 Carter Page remained their informant pre-trial leading to a pleading of guilty from Buryakov.

[Note – Pay close attention to dates, names in descriptions amid all citations]

Sources:  ♦ In 2013 the U.S. Department of Justice, Southern District of New York, announced an indictment against a Russian Operative Evgeny Buryakov.  LINK HERE In March of 2016 Buryakov pleaded GUILTY:

Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and John P. Carlin, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, announced that EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a “Zhenya,” pled guilty today to conspiring to act in the United States as an agent of the Russian Federation, without providing prior notice to the Attorney General.

[…]  The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices.(more)

♦ In 2016 Reuters published an article, based on the ongoing court case, going into detail about court records and how the FBI built their case.  Reuters also describes the FBI UCE-1 (Under-Cover Employee) with strong detail.  LINK HERE

NEW YORK (Reuters) – The FBI eavesdropped on meetings involving Russian intelligence personnel in New York City, including a suspected spy posing as a trade representative, by hiding recorders in binders containing supposedly confidential information about the energy sector, U.S. prosecutors said.

The hours of covert recordings from 2013 were disclosed in papers filed in Manhattan federal court on Tuesday in the case of Evgeny Buryakov, a Russian citizen who U.S. prosecutors say posed as a banker while participating in a Cold War-style spy ring.

[…] According to prosecutors, in April 2012, Sporyshev met an undercover FBI employee posing as an analyst at a New York energy firm at an oil and gas industry conference.

Over the next two years, they met to discuss the industry and other economic and political issues, prosecutors said, with Sporyshev providing gifts and cash for information.

In 2013, the FBI employee began providing Sporyshev with the binders containing purported industry analysis he wrote, supporting documents, and “covertly placed recording devices,” prosecutors wrote.  (more)

♦ In April 2017, writing a story about Carter Page (trying to enhance/affirm the Russian narrative), the New York Times outlined Page’s connections to the Trump campaign.  However, New York Times also references Page’s prior connection to the Buryakov case. If you ignore the narrative, you discover the UCE1 description is Carter Page.  READ [Notice how the story is shaped] LINK HERE:

Russian intelligence operatives tried in 2013 to recruit an American businessman and eventual foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign who is now part of the F.B.I. investigation into Russia’s interference into the American election, according to federal court documents and a statement issued by the businessman.

The businessman, Carter Page, met with one of three Russians who were eventually charged with being undeclared officers with Russia’s foreign intelligence service, known as the S.V.R.

The F.B.I. interviewed Mr. Page in 2013 as part of an investigation into the spy ring, but decided that he had not known the man was a spy, and the bureau never accused Mr. Page of wrongdoing.

The court documents say that Mr. Page, who founded an investment company in New York called Global Energy Capital, provided documents about the energy business to one of the Russians. […] To record their conversations, the F.B.I. inserted a listening device into binders that were passed to the Russian intelligence operatives during an energy conference, according to a former United States intelligence official.  (more)

When you read The Times article (2017), against the backdrop of the Reuters article (2016), and the DOJ release (2016) it is transparently clear that Carter Page was the Under-Cover Employee (UCE1) of the FBI in the 2013 case.

Carter Page was working for the FBI.  Page was the “analyst from a New York-based energy company” who “began providing Sporyshev with the binders“.

However, in 2017 the New York Times, using information from “a former intelligence official“, conflates the FBI/Page Relationship.  Heck, the NY Times tries to entirely change the relationship between Carter Page and the FBI.


Likely because on October 21st 2016 the FBI claimed to a FISA Court; to gain a “Title I” surveillance warrant; that Carter Page was working on behalf of a foreign government.

(Full Memo pdf)

Carter Page was an FBI Under-Cover Employee in 2013, and remained the primary FBI witness through May of 2016 throughout the case.

If Carter Page was working as a UCE (FBI undercover employee), responsible for the bust of a high level Russian agent in 2013 -and remained a UCE- throughout the court case UP TO May of 2016, how is it possible that on October 21st 2016 Carter Page is put under a FISA Title 1 surveillance warrant as an alleged Russian agent?

Conclusion:  He wasn’t.  The DOJ National Security Division and the FBI Counterintelligence Division, knew he wasn’t.  The DOJ-NSD and FBI  flat-out LIED.

Now, go back to the March 2016 DOJ Press Release of the guilty pleading for Evgeny Buryakov, announced from the New York office:

…”Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and John P. Carlin, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, announced”…

Because “FISA Title I” surveillance authority against a U.S. citizen is so serious (the U.S. government is essentially calling the target a spy), only a few people are authorized to even apply for such surveillance warrants.  One of the four people authorized to make such a filing is the Asst. Attorney General who is head of the National Security Division of the DOJ.  That person is John P Carlin.

The same John P Carlin who, together with the FBI counterintelligence unit, conscripted  Carter Page as an FBI Under-Cover Employee, gains a guilty plea, then turns around and six months later accuses Page of being a Russian Spy.

Why?  Likely because the DOJ-NSD and FBI CoIntel needed to find a legal way to spy on the Trump campaign. The 2016 FISA Title 1 surveillance of former FBI employee Carter Page became that legal way. [“The Insurance Policy”]

In October of 2016, at approximately the same time the DOJ was making the FISA Court filing against Page, and successfully gaining the surveillance warrant, Asst. Attorney General  John P Carlin resigns as head of the DOJ-NSD.    –SEE HERE–  Did Carlin resign in protest? or, did Carlin resign knowing he too had served a larger purpose?

The entire FISA Title I surveillance authority over Carter Page was cover, most likely retroactive cover, for the DOJ and FBI conducting surveillance on the Trump campaign.

The DOJ-National Security Division and FBI Counterintelligence Unit didn’t care about Page because to them he was a useful tool.  It wasn’t Page they needed, per se’, they just needed someone, anyone, who had contact with the Trump campaign that they could apply the label “foreign agent” upon.  The DOJ/FBI just needed someone they could position to gain the FISA “Title I” surveillance approval that would retroactively make all prior campaign surveillance legal.  Who Carter Page was simply checked the right boxes.

Page wasn’t a “plant”, or a “participant”, he was a useful body upon which they could attach a label to justify their surveillance and monitoring.  Nothing more.

Clear enough?

Carter Page testified to the House Intelligence Committee that DOJ-FBI officials leaked his identity, his role in the Buryakov case, to the media.  This is secondary and direct confirmation from Page himself that he was indeed the FBI UCE-1

(Source Link – Page. #19 House Intelligence Testimony pdf)

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1,475 Responses to In March 2016 Carter Page Was an FBI Employee – In October 2016 FBI Told FISA Court He’s a Spy…

  1. Bob Thoms says:

    Has anyone dug into Carter Page’s political activity/affiliation/donations?


  2. Walt says:

    A lot of you are getting lost in the weeds of Carter Page…
    Very important below the spying was done illegally. This was the cover up after Trump won…

    From Sundance above “The DOJ/FBI just needed someone they could position to gain the FISA “Title I” surveillance approval that would retroactively make all prior campaign surveillance legal.”

    Liked by 13 people

    • ScarletPimpernel says:

      See, that was my understanding as well. Yet several commenters here came to exactly the opposite conclusion. I wonder if they actually read the post. Not carefully, it seems.


    • Kintbury54 says:

      I just sent an e-mail to Hannity. Don’t know what good it will do. I think the FBI must have helped in the writing of the dossier. They had to have a mention of Page in it. Either they helped in the writing or they gave info to Clinton to get it in there. Obviously knowing all the while it was all bull.

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      • cc:
        Sarah Carter and John Solomon


      • filia.aurea says:

        Steele didn’t write the dossier, he compiled it from Obama’s cabal sources. Page had previously helped the FBI get a conviction, and even though the FBI knew Page wasn’t a spy, they used him as a cya patsy for their Title I warrant approval. This provided the FBI/DOJ with a retroactive and expansive way to cover their unwarranted spying on the Trump team. The demorinos are going to keep switching the narrative to hide Obama’s spying. The Page narrative is another fairy tale. Why would a spy be free and interviewing on Fox news? The FISC is a joke.


    • blind no longer says:

      Okay Walt. You are 100 percent right, we have gotten lost in the weeds. It’s right there in the article, Carter Page wasn’t a plant or a tool, he was used by the FBI to gain the Title 1 surveillance. He is not the story. He was unmasked and uncovered by the Obama administration, leaking his identity to the press and putting him at risk for harm because of his previous work with the FBI.

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      • JMC says:

        It seems so to me too. Page’s own lengthy account in the document he submitted to the Committee – and swore to – seems genuine.


      • Walt says:

        You are close. Look at it this way. They spied illegally on the Trump campaign no big deal because they thought Hillary would win and it would all be swept under the rug nobody the wiser. When it was apparent she was not going to win they started to create an Insurance plan to cover their treason. When she lost! They went back and did all this to justify what they already did! in doing so Carlin had to find the perfect idiot (Carter Page) to justify all the spying…

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  3. D. Manny says:

    Oh, well, I know why the FBI had to list Carter Page as a spy. Imagine the implications if the FBI had an undercover agent planted in the Trump admin…… especially when no crime had been committed….

    Isn’t that sort of what they accused Nixon of doing?

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  4. MIKE says:

    I get that Carter Page is/was not a plant per se, however, with his Council on Foreign Relations background, his involvement is not random or coincidental. Page has a role to play in controlling the narrative, one which suits the needs of the elites.Sounds like this FBI double-naught spy stuff is just some side work he took on, maybe to enhance his resume. Like Manafort.
    CFR is bad, m’kay?? If you’re CFR, you’re bad, m’kay??

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    • Toronto Tonto says:

      Trump met with Richard Haas of CFR in March 2016, about the same time the FBI was wrapping up the Buryakov case with Page’s help.


    • Leane Kamari says:

      McCain during his earlier campaign was warned by FBI about Manafort yet he suggested Manafort for Trump Team. Only after DJT was inaugurated Sally Yates informed DJT that Manafort wasn’t a wise decission, funny eh?


  5. oildMan1943 says:

    Would love for the story to be true, but never heard of UCE position, don’t believe there is any position in the FBI referenced as UCE.


  6. lfhbrave says:

    Anyone caught Judge Nap saying about three key words being redacted: “Long Term Asset”?

    Liked by 3 people

  7. D. Manny says:

    So I looked up Carter Page’s speech in Moscow. Isn’t it so very interesting how they billed the speech as coming from Trump’s adviser, especially after the Trump admin told Page he couldn’t do that…and, it’s in English. How convenient.

    Liked by 3 people

    • cjzak says:

      Thought I heard Page tell LI last night that the Trump people said he could go and give the speech? Maybe I misunderstood what he said.

      Liked by 1 person

      • D. Manny says:

        Yes, that he could go give the speech, but not as a Trump rep.

        Liked by 3 people

        • Lurker2 says:


          I think there’s a place in the testimony where he specifically says he was told by the Trump campaign to not participate as a campaign representative, but I can’t find it right now. In lieu of that, there are several places where he clearly states that he was not intending to be a campaign rep.

          Page 55:

          Mr. Schiff: So, Dr. Page, you’re invited to come back to speak at the school at a time where individuals associated with the university are aware that you’re now affiliated with the Trump campaign, correct?

          Mr. Page: Yes. But I made very clear from the beginning that I’m not speaking on behalf of the Trump campaign.

          Page 103.

          Mr. Schiff: And what did you tell him [Sessions] about your trip to Moscow?

          Mr. Page: […] I said: I’m glad to have the opportunity to meet you. And I just — I’m going to be travelling, but I will — I’m going to give a — you know, totally unrelated to the campaign, I’m going to give a brief — or give a speech in Moscow.

          Page 116:

          Mr. Page: […] And I was very clear that total — I mentioned, you know, as I’ve — as I made clear in all of my speeches, totally unrelated to the campaign, you know.


          Mr. Schiff: Now, this strip that was unrelated to the campaign, you wrote a memo in campaign format to debrief the campaign on your trip that was supposedly not about the campaign. Is that what we are to understand? 🙂


          • Lurker2 says:

            Here it is. On page 53 Page says he sent some emails to “our team” (on the Trump campaign) to let them know he was going to Moscow in July 2016. On page 54 Gowdy asks him if there was a response.

            Mr. Page: So Corey said, if you have interest, you know, if it’s — I forget the exact terms but, you know, if you have — I’ll add that to the record. But essentially he said, we can — if you’re not going to — you know, it has nothing —

            Mr. Gowdy: I don’t know. That’s why I’m asking.

            Mr. Page: No, not — not — if — you know, if you’d like to go on your own, not affiliated with the campaign, you know, that’s fine.

            Mr. Gowdy: And I assume you would have those emails too, the responses?

            Mr. Page: I can provide that, yes.


    • Toronto Tonto says:

      Something caught my attention in the Laura Ingraham interview. She mentioned the foreign policy team of the Trump campaign only met once. Page wasn’t there. He was in HAWAII. Am I crazy that his Russian trips don’t bother me so much, but Hawaii sets off all sorts of alarm bells. Now I’m thinking Page is CIA and made a cameo at FBI.


      • zimbalistjunior says:

        when did that team meet? was that the meeting in which a picture was taken–with Papadoppleganger at the table? was this meeting held in Trump Tower?
        If Papa could be deemed as some sort of agent, would that suffice for surveillance of Trump Tower (and therefore Page’s presence wouldn’t be needed).

        (Remember the Russian lawyer-adoption-sanctions meeting took place June 9, 2016. As stated before, it is possible that meeting was done solely as a way in to surveil Trump HQ.


    • inquisitorLost says:

      So we can compare what he actually said and compare that with how Isikoff characterized what he said.

      (see #44-47) in link:


  8. recoverydotgod says:

    Playing off the title of the piece included in the Title I FISA application:

    U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and Kremlin, Michael Isikoff, September 23, 2016, Yahoo News

    Shouldn’t the story have been:

    U.S. intel officials probe ties between Trump adviser and U.S. intel officials

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  9. D. Manny says:

    Occam’s razor, guys…

    Liked by 2 people

  10. Eric Kennedy says:

    Kudos Sundance… Donald Trump, Jr. just indirectly retweeted this story…

    Liked by 8 people

    • pyromancer76 says:

      Two priceless replies to the thread:

      StaggerLee‏ @jawonliberty 14h14 hours ago
      #FBI needs raided by USMC, everyone taken out in zip-ties, and all locations boarded up for good. And those who committed Treason strung up from the nearest trees

      Bob Johnson‏ @BobJohn12512566 14h14 hours ago
      Replying to @drawandstrike
      If this story is true then it will end the Russia investigation and should totally clear out the FBI and DOJ upper leadership and indictments to follow.

      I am fond of clear-headed thinking.

      Liked by 7 people

    • 17CatsInTN says:

      I made the mistake of accidentally opening the Tweet.

      Hooooo boy, these people are devoid of even one scintilla of intelligence. I read 3 responses and wanted to hurl invective at them. They are so pathologically blind to truth, their comments are so vile and their understanding is nonexistent. I understand that many are bots and trolls, but still, it is unconscionable how morally bankrupt some elements of are society are.

      Forgive me, I mostly do not engage with society, especially social media, so when I come across gems like this, I have a visceral reaction. One of the downsides of purposefully staying away from the vomitous filth.

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  11. Page is suing a number of entities, but not the FBI.

    There is a very likely reason for this: he has an employment agreement with the FBI.

    I’m sure that agreement contains non-disclosure language, language related to disparaging his employer (or former employer), and language regarding how any legal issues would be handled in the event of a dispute.

    Obviously that would tie his hands and probably prohibit him from suing the FBI.

    One of the White Hats needs to ask the FBI and the IG to provide them with a copy of any contracts between the FBI and Carter Page.

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  12. mashall says:

    Those that scoff at the description of “weaponized governmnet employed for political power” are dangerously naive.


  13. mashall says:

    “weaponized agencies used for political power”


  14. mashall says:

    Without FOIA, where would we be?

    Liked by 2 people

  15. JMC says:

    Re: The Carter Page testimony in PDF above. First, Carter swears to tell the truth. That means also, I assume, that his testimony submitted in his written document is also under oath. Second, he does acknowledge that he has worked in the past with US intelligence sources. Thirdly, he shows in many places in the written document that he has and has had an unfavorable attitude towards the Obama administration and its abuses. The whole document constitutes a cri de coeur of a man unjustly thrown under the bus by the Dems, and for the reasons I stated it throws some doubt, in my mind, that he was a “plant” in the Trump campaign. Of course, I may be wrong. I doubt though that he lied under oath.

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  16. D. Manny says:

    Not to change the subject, but this is the list of outstanding questions to date. If you have more to add as a result of this new information, please respond:

    Why did Obama’s FBI hire CrowdStrike? Why did the FBI have to rely on an outside agency to provide IT services?
    If the FBI was using CrowdStrike to hunt down hackers and believed that Wikileaks was a Russian operative, why did the FBI terminate the services of CrowdStrike on the same day that Wikileaks dumped its first set of hacked emails onto the Internet?
    When was the birth of the peepee dossier, which may or may not be the birth of the Steele dossier?
    Who are all the sources of the dossier?
    How much of the “dossier” existed before Christopher Steele was hired?
    Two notable events occurred — one, the FBI admitted to FISC that the FBI has been unmasking political opponents of Obama; and two, the Mike Rogers’ claim that the 702 About Queries has been abused — that you wonder how FISC could continue to so blatantly hand out warrants to the FBI, and there was little to no repercussion for these events.
    Why was Andrew McCabe demoted and then put on leave?
    Why was Bruce Ohr demoted?
    Where is Peter Strzok, and why was he demoted?
    Where is Nellie Ohr? Has she been reprimanded for her role in the Steele dossier?
    Where is Lisa Page?
    Who all paid for the dossier?
    When did the FISA court learn that the dossier was unverified, and did it take any actions in response to learning that information?
    Why was one of the FISA warrants placed on a 30-day judicial review?
    What crime has been committed that necessitated the need for a special counsel?
    Who was the DNC contact person for Glenn Simpson and/or Perkins Coie? Did Simpson only deal directly with Perkins Coie and never the DNC?
    When Perkins Coie terminated the services of FGPS and then Glenn Simpson continued to disseminate the dossier to others, did the two parties have a signed release authorizing Glenn Simpson to share that information?
    The CIA shared the dossier with Harry Reid. Did Harry Reid have the security clearance for such information?
    What investigation of the dossier did the FBI conduct?
    Does the FBI or SS do background searches on people joining Team Trump?
    If the FBI had already been surveilling Carter Page and George Papadopoulos, why did they not warn Team Trump that both were under investigation?
    Why would the FBI warn Team Trump about Gen. Michael Flynn but not about Carter Page, George Papadopoulos, etc.?
    What event precipitated the investigation of Carter Page?
    What does Clinton know about FGPS? Did she have any input into the hiring decision of FGPS? Did Clinton and/or her aides have contact with FGPS?
    Who wrote the checks to pay FGPS and/or Christopher Steele and/or Nellie Ohr?
    Who all was notified in the DNC, the Hillary PAC, and the Obama PAC? Did any of those persons have contact with the press?
    Were Lisa Page and Peter Strzok questioned about the texts separately?
    Were any other parties questioned in connection with the Lisa Page-Peter Strzok texts?
    What was the insurance policy, and was it ever put into action?
    Why did it take so long to notify Congress of the Lisa Page-Peter Strzok issue?
    Are there any limits to Mueller’s mandate?
    When did the Mueller leaks stop? Was it when Peter Strzok left the team?
    Carter Page was removed from Team Trump before the Page FISA warrant was granted. What event precipitated continuing with the warrant? Additionally, the Page warrant was continued for three consecutive 90 day periods. What reason was given to FISC for renewing the warrants each occasion?
    2016-05-18 James Clapper says FBI has been actively educating both campaigns on guarding against hacking. If the FBI/CIA thought either one or both of the campaigns were actively being hacked, wouldn’t they do more than just warn them how to guard against attacks?
    Did the FBI/CIA/NSA ever take any steps to see whether there were any other actors who were involved in hacking the DNC’s computers, anyone besides Russia?
    There were several other hackers active around the same time period. What steps were taken to rule out any of these other actors?
    Did Glenn Simpson meet with the Russian lawyer at anytime on the 8th, 9th, or 10th of June 2016?
    How many Title VII and Title I FISA warrants were sought in connection with the Russian collusion?
    What precipitating event occurred between May of 2016 and October of 2016 that caused the FBI to believe that Carter Page went from being an employee of the FBI to becoming a Russian spy?
    Why isn’t Carter Page suing the FBI for slander/defamation for naming Page as a Russian spy?

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    • Kay Cedilla says:

      Why isn’t Hillary and Barack in chains?

      Liked by 2 people

    • Irish says:

      One thing all you Yanks are forgetting, McCain. How deep up the DNC was McCain? Wasn’t he the one chosen, selected or volunteered to dilever the dossier?


    • jbowen82 says:

      My hypothesis is that the FBI did not do an independent investigation of the DNC server because Crowdstrike came to the answer the FBI wanted, and they didn’t want to take the chance that a forensic analysis might come to a different conclusion. It could be worse – it could be that the FBI told Crowdstrike what conclusion they wanted it to reach.

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      • Leane Kamari says:

        it could well be that the FBI knew it was the Awan Brothers. Read somewhere that the FBI led Mrs. Awan of the hock at the airport actually insisted on her being free to go to Pakistan


      • jmclever says:

        I read an article at Gateway Pundit a while back that suggested Crowdstrike was hired to make it look like DNC was hacked by some virus called Fancy Bear. Their take was Crowdstrike planted evidence of a hack rather than discover it. It was very technical, so i don’t understand the mechanics of it, but that’s the general idea. Can’t add the link from my phone but just put “Gateway Pundit Fancy Bear Crowdstrike” in the search engine and you’ll find it easily.


    • zimbalistjunior says:

      If Rosenstein declines to properly manage Mueller, what is the white hats recourse short of firing Rosenstein? (bc of political implications)
      -Is Horowitz, as IG, mandated to investigate Mueller? Can he question Mueller?
      -Can a Congressional Committee, i.e. House Judiciary, investigate Mueller? Can they bring him in for questioning? (I.e. as in, I believe, they have done with Rosenstein)

      etc…my point being that at this time, it is obvious that Mueller and/or Rosenstein are either playing an incredibly clever ‘long game’ on behalf of the white hats, or, more likely, are black hats themselves.
      Knowing what we know about the lengths that were taken to clear HRC, and knowing that there is a direct nexus between the HRC email investigation and ensuring she would subsequently defeat Trump, (ie we must do whatever we can do to ensure HRC wins, otherwise, we will be in trouble for all the stuff we have done before) any prosecutor with any understanding of ethics and of the law would have terminated the ‘Russia probe’. The fact that Mueller has not indicates he is probably a black hat and needs to be removed. the only question remaining is how to do so without incurring negative political repercussions.
      Let’s remember —when


      • zimbalistjunior says:

        let’s remember: when a police detective or a DA are found to have lied, planted evidence etc in an investigation, we end up going over all their previous cases—their credibility is shot…that is true even though the previous cases have no connection to the case where the detective was found to have lied.
        here, the credibility of the investigators in the HRC email is shot—AND, arguably, the HRC email case and the so-called Russia collusion case are directly connected. Arguably, they are THE SAME case.

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        • gda says:

          Imagine that every case that each and every one of traitors handled in the past will now be called into question. More actual bad guys could catch an undeserved break because of their misfeasance.
          What hate and fear can do is frightful. And has unintended consequences.


          • PS says:

            True, but what if this is not the first time that a member of the Opposition Party was targeted for surveillance during an election ? There’s a correlating uptick in “incumbant re-election probability” over the last decade, from 85% in 2010 to 97% in 2016. Suppose that this “service” is provided by the FBI to keep the congressional incumbents in power, and they went after the big fish in the general election and broke the fishing rod?



          • mimbler says:

            I’m guessing they haven’t handled many “real” cases. Probably on the management fast track from the beginning.


      • D. Manny says:

        This is Mueller’s mandate:

        (c) The Special Counsel and staff shall be subject to disciplinary action for misconduct and breach of ethical duties under the same standards and to the same extent as are other employees of the Department of Justice. Inquiries into such matters shall be handled through the appropriate office of the Department upon the approval of the Attorney General.

        (d) The Special Counsel may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the Attorney General. The Attorney General may remove a Special Counsel for misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies. The Attorney General shall inform the Special Counsel in writing of the specific reason for his or her removal.


        • Zimbalistjunior says:

          So re c) does that mean the IG has the purview to investigate the SC ——much as he has to investigate the DOJ?
          And if so, is there a possibility that Horowitz has been investigating Mueller all this time but that he is limited to only publishing a report on Mueller? If so, is it possible that the IG report we anxiously await will include a section on Mueller?
          And that said report will basically force Rosenstein to fire Mueller and or terminate the entire probe?


          • D. Manny says:

            What’s more interesting is, if Mueller doesn’t now prosecute the FBI after the revelations of the Nunes memo, Mueller could be found guilty of dereliction of duty.


    • gda says:

      Where are the journalists? What does the absence of the “journalist” mean? Is convincing the left that the “jig’s up” like turning an aircraft carrier? Will they, with the constant barrage to come, FINALLY accept the enormity of their perfidy? Or will heads simply explode? Or perhaps pigs fly?

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  17. PGlenn says:

    I am confused. Why can’t both propositions be true: Carter Page was a plant when he arrived at the Trump campaign in March 2016 and the October 19 Title I FISA warrant application was an after-the-fact effort by the Deep State to cover its tracks? Would they have needed a warrant to cover their activities if Clinton had won the election? And so, if Clinton were up 12 points in the polls in early October, would they have even bothered with the phony warrant?

    The first Page FISA warrant was approved on Oct. 19. I don’t know how long it takes to write an application, submit it, do the hearing, get approval, etc. What, 3-4 weeks maybe? If you look back at presidential polling leading up to October 19, 2016, you could argue that Trump was impervious to the tricks, weathering both of the Democrats’ two major smear campaigns: 1. Muh Russia, 2. P—y grab.

    When Trump’s support proved very resilient, the Deep State had to CYA, just in case (insurance policy). The Carter Page insider intelligence and the illegal surveillance, which fed the MSM Muh Russia campaigns, weren’t effective as an election strategy, but became more effective as an election nullification strategy (until the Nunes memo).

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    • D. Manny says:

      Sept. 7, 2016

      Hillary’s meltdown included throwing a water glass at a staffer — narrowly missing her head, and demanding Matt Lauer be fired! She was overheard threatening executives at NBC saying “If I lose, we all go down and that Fascist [eff] will have us swinging from nooses! What the [eff] is wrong with you idiots?”


    • LCSmom says:

      Also, don’t forget her collapsing and having that seizure at the 9/11 memorial. I bet they were panicked after that, thinking her support might crater.


    • Mike says:

      This makes sense to me. I don’t yet see why we should rule out Carter Page being an FBI plant (willingly or unknowingly… but i think more likely willingly. He had gone undercover before, why not again?).

      Deep State had more reasons than just election insurance to spy on trump… they were planning to totally punish and destroy him after he lost the election and wanted to get (or manufacture and frame up) whatever they needed to do so.

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    • Miss America says:

      @P. Glenn…I agree 100%. I keep seeing people saying Carter Page was not a plant and I don’t understand why not.


  18. Occam’s Razor says:

    I can’t keep it all straight. I’m just going to have to trust the government to do the right thing. 😐


  19. JoD says:

    While over at YouTube on an unrelated matter, came across a “Lionel Nation” video.
    “How Did Carter Page Go From FBI Undercover Employee (UCE) to FISA Title 1 Foreign Agent Spy?”
    I am not familiar with Lionel, so I don’t know his creds, but he referenced The Treehouse, recommended this article and praised Sundance and all Citizen Journalists.

    The circulation continues!!!!!

    Liked by 1 person

  20. hidden says:

    Surprising Wapoo article from the author who is familiar with FISA process. Fact that DOJ/FBI added a footnote regarding political context and still refused to list DNC/Clinton is more damning. They can’t even lie about not knowing the source. msm and Demos are running with this footnote without realizing this.

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  21. Incredible this isn’t being reported on!


  22. I don’t want to incorrectly connect dots that don’t actually connect, but the linked document about Page’s involvement with convicting Buryakov says that, “Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee.” That would suggest Page was already working for the FBI when Sporyshev tried to recruit him. Spoyshev had been in the US since 2010.

    Page’s cover was that he was, “an analyst from a New York-based energy company”. Page had lived in Russia as early as 2004.

    We don’t know when the FBI recruited him, but it seems entirely possible he’s connected with Uranium One in some way, given the timelines. As so many names keep popping up between the current FBI/DOJ fiasco and Uranium One, it might be worth investigating any connection Page might have to that.

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  23. freddy says:

    I’m hearing the great Karl Rove discuss Carter Page. FOX really knows how make false narratives and plant them…. Continue to expand Carter was associated with the FBI and he was either a willing plant or a patsy they used one way or another for the real deal FISA Title 1 …No one mentions they used the Yahoo story and the dossier and complete BS called carter Page to get the highest level eavesdrop tool…That should scare everyone a judge let that fly 4 times and the top FBI would concoct such a plan……

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  24. Ernest Hoppe says:

    The mainstream media is totally out of touch, way behind, willfully ignorant and guilty of negligence, not doing their jobs here, as allegedly investigative journalists.


  25. erin1234567 says:

    Great work Sundance. Thank you for sourcing it. #DrainTheSwamp


  26. youme says:

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  27. Kay Cedilla says:

    So did they pull an Oswald with Page? I can’t help getting nausea after looking at Comey and the other high ups who Obama chose to run our country. And reading anything in the New York Times makes me want to take a shower. They are the vilest slimiest sleaziest yellow journalism ever. They make the Washington Post look honest and clean.

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  29. George Hicks says:

    So is the Page spy BS going to be what the Democrats claim is the reason they would have gotten the FISA warrant without the Steele Dossier?
    Also, I’ll bet someone at the FBI/DOJ gave the story to the NYT to publish and then used the NYT article to bolster their warrant application. This seems to be their MO now.

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  30. trapper says:

    “Page wasn’t a ‘plant’, or a ‘participant’, he was a useful body upon which they could attach a label to justify their surveillance and monitoring. Nothing more.”

    Yeah. After watching him on Ingraham’s show that became pretty clear. He comes across as a Fredo, a wannabe, a groupie, educated far beyond his abilities.

    Select quotes from his Wiki bio:
    “One of his original examiners later said [of Page’s dissertation] Page ‘knew next to nothing’ about the subject matter”
    “a reviewer [of his dissertation] described it as ‘very analytically confused, just throwing a lot of stuff out there without any real kind of argument.’”
    “Eurasia Group president Ian Bremmer recalled … that Page was its ‘most wackadoodle’ alumnus”
    “Russian intelligence operatives attempted to recruit Page, and one described him as enthusiastic about business opportunities in Russia but an ‘idiot.’”


  31. Brant says:

    The Preet Bharara connection is going to become quite interesting. No wonder he was going after Trump. Hoping he could get Trump before Trump gets him. Methinks in due time, we will find out Preet lost.

    Liked by 4 people

  32. Nice layout! Don’t forget that Carter Page’s office shares an Atrium and probably phone lines with Trump Tower. This is why they didn’t care if he had officially left the campaign.


  33. woohoowee says:


    House Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul on Monday said he wants the Justice Department’s inspector general to investigate the FBI’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act request to spy on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.


    McCaul called for the FISA application, including the affidavit attached but not the methods and sources, to be released so the public understands the full context of the basis for the application.

    He had called for the release of the memo alleging the abuse of power last Friday.

    Liked by 3 people

  34. kinthenorthwest says:

    Feel Like I Am Watching Some Well Put Together Spy Movie, Except Its Happening to Americans.

    Liked by 4 people

  35. Ziiggii says:

    so Page was assisting the FBI in an investigation in 2013, but then

    Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to during President Trump’s campaign, has been the subject of a foreign surveillance warrant since 2014.

    this article is from Aug 2017, but no source was provided for that statement… could be misinformation.


  36. georgiafl says:

    Reminder – John Carlin was the head of the DOJ National Security Division (DOJ-NSD).

    THIS is the DOJ division that Sally Q Yates tried to protect from oversight/accountability/inspection by the Inspector General Michael Horowitz.

    Yates wrote a 58 page brief to try to stop him from DOJ-NSD oversight.

    (No doubt, AG Sessions corrected that illegality upon taking office 2/9/17 – an event the Democrats tried to delay as long as possible!)

    Liked by 2 people

  37. Details says:

    In the summer of 2014, BURYAKOV met multiple times with a confidential source working for the FBI (“CS-1”) and an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-2”). Both CS-1 and UCE-2 purported to be working on a casino development project in Russia.

    of course he was under observation by the FBI in 2014 – this operation was ongoing.


  38. Ziiggii says:

    Oct 10, 2017:

    Page also attracted attention earlier this year after it was revealed that he once came under scrutiny by the FBI for his contact with a Russian intelligence operative in New York City in 2013. Page was never charged with a crime, and the association happened years before he came into Trump’s orbit.

    Also FTA:

    Page was eager for the committee’s attention earlier this year, when he showed up of his own volition to the panel’s secure office spaces on Capitol Hill to drop off a document he created alleging that he was the target of a smear campaign by Hillary Clinton’s aides. Clinton and her associates, Page alleged in his document — which he also shopped around to news organizations — were committing a hate crime against him by planting false stories about his ties to Russia, Page said. He was being targeted, he wrote in the document, because he was a Catholic male.


  39. Brant says:

    How is this for a first line on a Yazooo article, “Few people have heard of Michael Horowitz, but that’s about to change.” I wrote, “Few people have heard of Michael Horowitz….” Hilarious. I’ve known his name since at least early/mid November. The only people who haven’t heard of him read Yazooo/HuffPo exclusively or watch MSNBS, CNBS, ABS, NBS, CBS, CNN, etc.


  40. Ziiggii says:

    When Page testified to the HPSCI in Nov he told the committee:

    “Back in June 2016, I mentioned in passing that I happened to be planning to give a speech at a university in Moscow,” Page told CNN. “Completely unrelated to my limited volunteer role with the campaign and as I’ve done dozens of times throughout my life. Understandably, it was as irrelevant then as it is now. If it weren’t for the dodgy dossier and all the chaos that those complete lies had created, my passing comment’s complete lack of relevance should go without saying.”
    Page said it was the only time he met Sessions.
    A source familiar with the meeting told CNN that the encounter occurred at a dinner at the Capitol Hill Club, attended by members of the Trump national security team, including Sessions. Near the end of the dinner, Page approached Sessions to say hello and thanked the then-senator for the dinner, and Page also mentioned he was headed to Russia. Sessions didn’t respond and moved on to the next person waiting to shake his hand, this source said.


  41. DesertRain says:

    Per sworn testimony to the House Intelligence Committee, Carter Page states that he was called by Buzzfeed and ABC on April 3, 2016. Page was told that “US government operatives had unlawfully disclosed my identity as Male1 in the 2015 case”. The following day, Buzzfeed published a hit piece on Mr. Page.

    1. Is this unlawful unmasking under investigation?
    2. Has Buzzfeed and the author been questioned by anyone?
    3. Was the Buzzfeed article used as criteria in reauthorizing the Oct 2016 FISA warrant on Carter Page?


    • JMC says:

      It seems pretty obvious from your post that once Page was notified by Buzzfeed and ABC that the government had illegally revealed his agent identity, the government, which now knew he knew, went into action to set him up for a pre-emptive smear to cover itself and to neutralize his protests. And thus was born the “Carter Page Russian Agent” meme which was then conveniently folded into the “Trump Campaign Russian Connection” slander and used in the FISA warrants


    • DesertRain says:

      My bad for flavoring the Buzzfeed piece as a hit. Please erase my flavoring from your memory.

      In rereading the NYT piece Sundance referenced and also rereading the Buzzfeed piece, it is very easy to see the difference between how each author reports and flavors the info.
      Buzzfeed was an original so start there…


  42. Steve McIntyre says:

    You’ve incorrectly conflated UCE-1(Undercover Employee-1) and Male-1 (Carter Page) and jumped to incorrect conclusions.

    UCE-1 met with Sporyshev prior to meetings with Male-1. The bug was installed well before Carter Page came on the scene.
    “The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices. Sporyshev then took the binders to, among other places, the Residentura.”

    Carter Page (Male-1) met with Poddobny, not Sporyshev. Poddobny and Sporychev discussed Page on April 8, 2013 in a conversation that was taped. This was two months prior to Page’s first meeting with FBI (Gregory Monaghan and Agent-2) on June 13, 2013.

    The identification of Page as Male-1 in this case first appears in Buzzfeed on April 3, 2017 and rapidly disseminated e.g. Brian Ross on ABC


    • gda says:

      Surprised that no one has commented on this yet. Sundance, with all due respect, I believe Steve is correct in identifying Page as Male-1 rather than UCE-1. Please note his impeccable bona fides, not least in investigatory matters.

      Steve, IYO, what “incorrect conclusions” need to be walked back here?


      • Ziiggii says:

        no Steve is not correct… probably why no one has responded to him. He is the one conflating Male-1 and UCE-1. The DOJ release clearly shows that the person “Male-1” in the court documents (indictments) were in fact the “UCE-1”.
        MALE-1 = UCE-1 – they are one in the same person

        There was also a “confidential source” (CS-1) described in the court documents – that seems to be what Steve is claiming to mean “under cover employee”; they are not the same.

        All it takes is for someone to notate the “story” provided in the indictment documents of “Male-1” is the exact same as the “UCE-1” story provided in the DOJ release.


        • gda says:

          Thanks for the clarification. I don’t mean to diss Sundance in any way, I simply know Steve as a credible source and have followed him for 10+ years. Therefore I tend to trust his analysis. Perhaps if someone had been quick to point out his error I would not have responded as I did.

          Essentially, two people I trust are offering different scenarios as facts. All I want is clarification and confirmation.

          We are all together in this quest.

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      • Ziiggii says:

        From the DOJ release:

        The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company.

        Agent Monahan did not even know that Page was an FBI UCE!


  43. Not-a-happy-camper says:

    Is there any documentation of roughly when the Obama administration started its illegal activity monitoring the Trump group?


  44. Lenard Scott says:

    This is an excellent article, very well researched and explained… now we jut need to get the American people to read ans understand it


  45. suejeanne1 says:

    I wonder what is going on with this new show from Dick Wolf – this was an article in “Time” magazine – I found it when Googling “Dick Wolf” “Hillary Clinton” fundraiser – James Comey allowed access to the bureau’s New York offices –

    By Abigail Abrams
    April 13, 2017

    FBI Director James Comey said Thursday he allowed Law and Order creator Dick Wolf access to the bureau’s New York offices for a year to film a new TV series.

    The series won’t be part of the Law and Order universe. Instead, it will be a documentary-style show called Inside the FBI: New York, according to CBS News. Wolf will produce the show with documentarian Marc Levin.

    Comey hopes the series will rehabilitate the FBI’s image, which has taken a beating over the past year. “We have to care what people think about us,” Comey told CBS. “The faith and confidence of the American people is the bedrock.”

    The FBI chief added that he worries people don’t understand the bureau. “We did a lot last year that confused people,” he said.


    • jmclever says:

      I wonder if Comey has dissociative identity disorder? (Used to be called multiple personality disorder). It really is like he is two people sometimes.

      Liked by 1 person

      • suejeanne1 says:

        I went back to find the article – first source that popped up was “Sputnik” – a news site –

        (I think Peter Strzok and Lisa Page didn’t get the memo that per then-Director Comey the FBI doesn’t take sides)


        • suejeanne1 says:

          (regarding the series that Dick Wolf created re the FBI)

          The series was filmed for an entire year, from September 2015 through September 2016, so it is unlikely to include the events surrounding Comey’s infamous October 2016 letter to Congress about the reopening of the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton, which many on the left have blamed for Clinton’s election loss.

          The show is set to premiere on April 27, and Comey hopes that it will help people understand that the agency is not partisan.

          “If you see the world through sides, the FBI doesn’t make a lot of sense to you,” Comey said.

          “We are not on anybody’s side. We really don’t care.”


  46. yy4u says:

    July 2016 – FBI/DOJ requested FISA approval to spy on Trump campaign. Rejected. Why? Because the restrictions for spying on a US citizen are much more stringent? If Page were a foreign agent, wouldn’t this request been granted?

    September 26, 2016: Carter Page LEAVES the Trump campaign.

    October 19, 2016: TWENTY THREE DAYS LATER (nearly one month), SECOND FISA request to spy on Trump campaign GRANTED. How is it possible to use Carter Page to spy on the Trump campaign when Carter Page no longer is ON the Trump campaign team?


  47. Alligator Gar says:

    That’s pretty hard to get that low….they’d have to stand on a stool to kiss a snake’s butt as it stands….


  48. jmclever says:

    The Gateway Pundit has linked to this story with full credit to Sundance. Word getting out very quickly.


    • Lurker2 says:

      That tells me he didn’t know that the dossier creators had intended all along to give it to the FBI. So he was just acting like a fool on his own, not coordinating with the others.

      Liked by 1 person

      • David A says:

        I think differently. We were never suppose to know the gory details. McCain was white-washing the dossier to further misrepresent it and hide the DNC FBI source.

        Liked by 1 person

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