Late Monday night the state of Texas filed a lawsuit directly in the Supreme Court against four states: Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvan and Wisconsin. The intent is to block those states from casting their Electoral College votes for Joe Biden due to the unconstitutional nature of mail-in ballot use – against legislative approval and requirement.
Today 17 states filed an amicus brief [pdf link] in support of the Texas lawsuit.
The seventeen states include Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia.
As noted in the supportive filing: “The States have a strong interest in preserving the proper roles of state legislatures in the administration of federal elections, and thus safeguarding the individual liberty of their citizens.”
[…] “States have a strong interest in ensuring that the votes of their own citizens are not diluted by the unconstitutional administration of elections in other States. When non-legislative actors in other States encroach on the authority of the “Legislature thereof” in that State to administer a Presidential election, they threaten the liberty, not just of their own citizens, but of every citizen of the United States who casts a lawful ballot in that election — including the citizens of amici States.
Here’s the Full Amicus Brief:
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…”A true patriot keeps the attention of his fellow citizens awake to their grievances, and not allow them to rest till the causes of their just complaints are removed.”…
Need to get Idaho on board! Anyone know why they wouldn’t have joined this? I recently bought a little piece of property there in the hopes of building a dream summer retreat.
@lawrencewasden
Idaho’s Lt. Gov is on board!
Wyoming is kind of/kind of not in. They support the lawsuit but aren’t signing on just yet.
Haven’t caught up on reading the comments yet but just wanted to let everyone know that the SCOTUS phone line is being slammed.
It was busy when I tried several times yesterday afternoon. This morning there’s a tired-sounding voice saying that the “information” line is being monitored by someone “working remotely” and to leave a message.
The mailbox is full.
All I wanted to say to them was thank you for taking the case! But I’m glad there’s so much attention to it.
Millions know the score the yellowstream media is trying to hide.
I cannot find where it says the SC have decided to take the case. Can you tell me where you saw that?
Just a thought. Could say Florida and Ohio refuse to certify the election results and force the US house to pick the president.
From what I understand it only takes ONE state to refuse to certify the election that will force the house to pick the president.
Then PA has legislature already committed to do exactly that.
The PA legislature acted in contradiction to its own state constitution, they enacted laws related to voting when their constitution clearly states any such changes to voting law are required to be passed through a constitutional amendment.
No… Read article 12. If no candidate receives 270 electoral votes when such votes are counted upon the 6th of Jan, then the House shall choose the president and the senate shall choose the Vice president. However, should the house be unable to choose a president by the 4th of Mar, then the Vice President which the senate chose shall become President. and the senate again shall choose a vice president.
The choices of president or vice president are limited to those persons who received elector votes.
The supreme court has ruled on how electors can vote, which settled the fight in 2016 when electors were attacked by Democrats to change their vote to Hillary Clinton.
Exactly. IF Biden reaches 270 doesn’t matter. And, at this point, UNLESS SCOTUS turns it, 2020 is history. Have heard many objective individuals speak and the majority don’t think SCOTUS will act. IF so, will be a monumental case and case history.
IF SCOTUS allows 2020 to stand, what are the probabilities GOP EVER corrects, changes elections? Voting methods? NOW that vote/cheat by mail is ‘in-place’, HOW does it get taken away? GOP already shown they don’t have skill, energy, enthusiasm, zeal for it anyway.
Dems, Left, Libs, LBGTQxyz, Marxists, Socialists, Globalists have taken over USA. From top to bottom of the govt. Capitol Hill is a symbolic chamber of nothing these days. Meaningless. Futile. Those guys/gals only there to enrich, pad, line their pockets with mega $$$$$. damn the little people back home.
John, you’ve brought up a very good point and I believe that is an option IF there was a state that would do that: that would refuse to certify the election results based on the fact that those 4 states diluted the votes. But that might be hard to do for a republican state where Trump won in, hard to claim republican votes were diluted since he won in those Republican states. But I think you are onto to something!!
Heard several constitutionalists speak on issue. IF and WHEN Biden gets 270, it’s over. ONLY IF Biden doesn’t get to the 270 does the House come in-play.
very possible scenario….
Little late for that. I believe I read that West Virginia was the last state to certify. The rest have already certified.
Edit: A different site said that Hawaii was the final state to certify but all 50 states certified as of 12/8.
Correct, all 50 certified.
Would we really want that given the current composition of the House:
D = 237
R=203
It isn’t the rep count. Each state gets 1 vote. GOP would have 27 votes of 50.
its one vote per state
Not how it works. Each state is given ONE vote and Republicans control the most states
I do find it amusing that Montana wit it’s 1 house member would be given the same weight as California’s entire delegation 😉
I would think that most Montanans would be more stable, shall we say, than most Californians!
As an Ex-Californian I agree with you. The central valley, Orange County, and several other areas are conservative but the rest are left wing nutcases!
UNITED States of America … not Bigger States of America.
Actually, not the way it works. Goes to State level. In my state, NC, GOP controls and the 1 vote would go to Trump.
No, all states must certify election results to the National Archives (usually by 8 December, 3 days ago) before any Electors can be seated on the 14th of December according to such certifications.
https://www.archives.gov/electoral-college/2020
The argument before the supreme court is to determine if the changes to law/rules were in violation of Article II of the constitution. This will settle on the fact there are two types of elections, Federal and State. States such as Georgia who have consolidated power over elections in an elections board, Georgia will find it difficult to argue its standing in their response to the supreme court there exists a very clear delineation between rule and law. to such a point that election board rule changes could never equal a change in the election result.
Personally I find this position by Georgia to be untenable.
That said, the Supreme Court will never force the change in electors as some have hoped, they will side with the constitution and require such changes to election results to be decided by the states legislature.
The value of this challenge is that it will eliminate over consolidation and usurpation of election power going foreword.
Wray talked about “process” during his interview process. And then did nothing as Comey and Mueller’s processes were unique to them?
Judge Sullivan ordered all exculpatory evidence in Flynn trial and then took no action as DOJ continued to reveal exculpatory evidence?
Process and the Law go well together.
If one State (or 17) cannot hold other States accountable to the Law and their own process, when it affects all of US Legal citizens, we no longer have a Republic.
Sanctuary cities should be next in this process of States holding other States accountable for the sake of all citizens.
Uh-oh. I see on Newsmax where Dick Morris came out and said the Texas AG suit is “brilliant”.
If that’s not a contra-indication I don’t know what is.
Prior to him saying that, there was a big time lawyer (don’t remember who now) that said the same thing the day it was filed. Might have been Jay Sekulow.
I think it might have been!
Aw, Dick Morris is okay. He’s given us plenty of dirt on Hillary. ‘not sure he’s a convert, but he has some pretty good commentary. Really let’s you know why dems do what they do.
Has bad teeth, too.
I know this isn’t the best spot, but I just wanted to be sure y’all were aware that the website is not really accessible right now. Oh, sure, I’m in, you think. But it wasn’t easy and I’m posting this comment right here because I don’t want to click on anything else and have to find my way back to a comment section.
I can log into Conservative Treehouse but it’s almost impossible to read it because the light color of the font disappears into the purple background. I coule click the links for the various posts, but had the same problem. I clicked around and twice ended up on a readable page where I could comment, but not sure what I did to get past the problem either time. Just fyi
Checked on how I got here. I clicked the link for the post, and it came up unreadable purple, but then I hit the arrow to go back to the previous page (in upper left corner of browser) and viola! a readable page.
Same for me today. Delete your cookies for CTH. Then close browser window. then open CTH and Boom – Uninterrupted truth in digital format.
I had the same issue for about an hour today. I am a pretty savvy user and know how to troubleshoot. I had red lines through all the icons in my URL zone, which in one case meant it was telling me that the connection was not secure. There has been zero changes on my end.
The 1st thing I did was take it back off the enhanced tracking protection in my browser. Shut it down, opened it up, tried to link from Twitter, nothing but a sea of color. I finally deleted the cookies (3) from my cache, shut it down, clicked on a twitter ink and it finally worked.
I had red lines through all the icons in my URL zone, which in one case meant it was telling me that the connection was not secure.
that is good to know! Thanks
The curious wish to know are there other processes States have mandated illegally which effect us all which could be brought by other States? Or even if processed legally, is in effect illegal and harms other States? (ie Sanctuary cities)
When do we refuse our consent to be governed? If my vote can be nullified by corrupt officials in large cities and their respective states, what rights will be stripped away by a rigged republican representation? Is it when they vote to rescind our free speech? They don’t have to! Their culturally aligned institutions do it for them. Is it when they vote to take away our right to bear arms? In our most populous states that has effectively already come to fruition, they push relentlessly at a federal level to do the same. What about the 3rd Amendment? The Kings soldier isn’t in your home, he’s in your phone, your computer, your Amazon Echo, your tablet, your doorbell, your TV, etc. Even in some of your refrigerators! Would they stoop so low as to deploy the U.S. military against citizens? To remain in power or keep the money flowing you bet they would. The 4th Amendment? Tell that to the dead who received a no knock raid https://abc13.com/harding-street-raid-botched-hpd/5885310/ . Tell that to anyone “red flagged”. That’s a two-fer. The 5th through the 8th? The Founder’s wept. We have watched provably political prosecutions for 4 years! The 9th? The 10th? Where do we draw the line? They may not to be able to deny your vote by race, color, prior condition of servitude, sex or age but they will nakedly do it by political affiliation!
Are we suffering God’s judgement? Is he bringing upon us Joe Biden, and all the other corrupt politicians named as a Republican or Democrat as a punishment? No! We refuse, as one nation, to follow God’s word and we deliver our own punishment! We deliver it in the greed and gluttony of market commerce with China, and we let the parasite grow to kill us with its evil influence. Any God-fearing person who is a patriot has to see the split in this country and know that it cannot stand, and as our numbers dwindle, as personal human connections as intimate as the family are broken down by the insidiousness of “social media”, any semblance of a just and righteous society goes away with that majority. It’s time to fight AND win.
“A time for every purpose under heaven” [Ecclesiastes 3:3-8]
So yeah, it’s now A TIME TO FIGHT. (see war and kill)
3 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
Warrior is in the DNA of all Americans refer to your ancestral manual written in your heart and remember had they not fought you would not be alive today.
If this last court hope fails, prepare to take up arms and support our president who must never concede. President Trump must declare himself the president elect, enact the Insurrection Act and we must stand and be the 75 million armed and fight for THE LAST STAND OF THE REPUBLIC.
If Trump let’s Jared Kirshner or anyone else tell him to concede, the Republic will be OVER. I you all understand this: America will be DONE. OVER. GONE.
If Trump concedes it will solidify and guarantee we will never have a free election ever again–at least not in our lifetime. Not that the elections haven’t been rigged for years, but this time it’s shoved up the nose in-yer-face done in absolute mockery and so overt they’re sticking a dementia patient WEEKEND AT BERNIE’S candidate Biden as their front man.
I am a pacifist against wars around the world, but will take up arms to defend the Republic of the United States of America on American soil. You betcha.
REMEMBER: IF TRUMP DOESN’T DECLARE HIMSELF PRESIDENT, BIDEN WILL.
So who would you prefer?
Amen!
Part of the State of PA response to the suit brought by TX (an astounding example of the alternate universe the dems live in):
Since Election Day, State and Federal courts throughout the country have been flooded with frivolous lawsuits aimed at disenfranchising large swaths of voters and undermining the legitimacy of the election. The State of Texas has now added its voice to the cacophony of bogus claims. Texas seeks to invalidate elections in four states for yielding results with which it disagrees. Its request for this Court to exercise its original jurisdiction and then anoint Texas’s preferred candidate for President is legally indefensible and is an afront to principles of constitutional democracy.
What Texas is doing in this proceeding is to ask this Court to reconsider a mass of baseless claims about problems with the election that have already been considered, and rejected, by this Court and other courts. It attempts to exploit this Court’s sparingly used original jurisdiction to relitigate those matters. But Texas obviously lacks standing to bring such claims, which, in any event, are barred by laches, and are moot, meritless, and dangerous. Texas has not suffered harm simply because it dislikes the result of the election, and nothing in the text, history, or structure of the Constitution supports Texas’s view that it can dictate the manner in which four other states run their elections. Nor is that view grounded in any precedent from this Court. Texas does not seek to have the Court interpret the Constitution, so much as disregard it.
The cascading series of compounding defects in Texas’s filings is only underscored by the surreal alternate reality that those filings attempt to construct. That alternate reality includes an absurd statistical analysis positing that the probability of President-Elect Biden winning the election was “one in a quadrillion.” Bill of Complaint at 6. Texas’s effort to get this Court to pick the next President has no basis in law or fact. The Court should not abide this seditious abuse of the judicial process, and should send a clear and unmistakable signal that such abuse must never be replicated.
First example they are grasping at straws: They didn’t address anything in the TX suit. TX suit never talks about fraud. Yet, this response focuses on fraud.
Here’s another clue they are now grasping at straws:
“The cascading series of compounding defects in Texas’s filings is only underscored by the surreal alternate reality that those filings attempt to construct.”
Ok, what defects and how do they cascade? It should be easy to explain, if they cascade so easily. And again, you go into fraud…no fraud mentioned in this suit brought by TX.
You can’t even provide arguments against what was filed so you ramble on about nothing. Nothing, PA. And you take taxpayer dollars as a fee to do this work.
Treepers, maybe I missed it in the TX suit…but I don’t remember them saying anything about statistical anomalies in this one.
When you have nothing ramble on…
The truth is not on Pennsylvania’s side, nor is the constitution. So they are now just pounding the table.
Just my experience but seems a little bit odd to me. Dave Yost is Ohio’s AG. I have been trying
for 2 days to reach his office to ask him to put Ohio on the amicus brief with Texas. So these two numbers which are different had the same message, there is no one to answer the phone right now please call back in an hour. 800-282-0515 or 614-466-4986. Then told can go to his web site and fill out a form. I did last night but it would not take my message when I hit the send button. Saw on the web somewhere last night past Governor Kasick on CNN saying he was thankful that AG Dave Yost did not file with Texas. Called these numbers first thing this morning and same message. So I contacted my Congressman left a message on where do I go? So gone all day and just tried the 1-800-282-0515 and got a please stay on the line prompt. Funny after 20 mins I hung up. So if another citizen from Ohio wishes to try these numbers and see if you get a better experience please do. I have a feeling Ohio is waiting this out and doing nothing! Our signs and flags are still up all over and we voted to keep President Trump in office. I just hope my weird experience was only me.
Just say’n… 😉
Hmmmmm…
Just say’n… 😉
Any thoughts?
Either they had Dominion Voting Systems or other corrupt software/hardware, or there is other corruption going on, IMHO!
Well, well, well. Isn’t this interesting? This just makes it all that much easier to trace and track the corruption. Bastards!!!
And, another surprise, my state of Maryland is on the list! Surprise, surprise, surprise!!! NOT!!! (sarc off)
Well just saw why my Ohio AG Dave Yost has been busy. https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/12/ohio-ag-dave-yost-opposes-texas-lawsuit-challenging-biden-win.html
A sad day for Ohio for sure.
I read it, Ohio does say there are millions of people who doubt the election results and they want a decision on if executive branch can change election rules Willy nilly, but they don’t agree with a remedy as if there is no remedy. Weasels.
Don’t give up! This is an important video! She’s always good.
Great video. Worth the 17 minutes.
A bit off topic of this thread, but Sidney Powell has been awfully quite these days. Guess her Kracken was more of a Crock-en.
The “Kraken” was the CIA plot to subvert the election. Sidney Powell is doing three tracks, CIA (aka Kraken), the origins of how Smart-matic and Dominion was created, then the Chinese connect and all the money to the corrupt Republican and Democrat politicians. So stop smearing Attoney Powell.
She was just on Lou Dobbs’ show.
And you need to do some research. They have ALL of the data.
I will not link to any of it for you. Get crackin’ on that search.
Like!!
I am glad to here this news. We shall see. I’ll get cracking’ on it.
She has been INVALUABLE in this process. She’s been keeping Dem lawyers BUSY addressing her suits and actions which is giving Tx time to proceed with their motion. Powell is a HERO. Who ELSE would have FREED Gen Flynn? NOBODY would have DARED face the govt as she has and WON…God Bless Sidney Powell, every day of her life!
Only Pennsylvania responded to the Court.
Each of the 4 states responded I read them on scotus website, all seemed coordinated by same Lawyers
ok, I stand corrected and thanks for the info.
Please forgive not related, but good news! US Military just announced- majority of support & funding for joint C$A counterterrorism missions has been eliminated.
Now it has gone beyond all the many parties filing amicus curiae to the Texas suit to actually joining the suit in a move to Intervene …
From the Texas AG web site comes this little tidbit today:
The documentation can be read here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163322/20201210115500103_2020-12-10%20-%20Motion%20to%20Intervene%20and%20Proposed%20Bill%20of%20Complaint%20-%20Final%20With%20Tables.pdf
After President Trump re elected again. Sidney and Lin should sue everyone of these animals who participated on defrauding the american people.
How
Test,post…please ignore 12/10/2020 09:00 Mountain
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20a66_new_m6io.pdf#page=2 ran across this from october.will the SC follow this in this case?
If you really believe PROVEN CORRUPT QUID PRO CHINA JOE BUYDEN got MORE votes than ANY OTHER PREVIOUS Presidential candidate in history by just SITTING IN HIS BASEMENT and KNOWING that the Political Party he is part of LOST ACROSS the BOARD and that a 10 pm on ELECTION night he was LOSING IN A LANDSLIDE but that after ALL THE POLLS MYSTERIOUSLY SHUT Down he emerged OVERWHELMINGLY VICTORIOUS then I have a Bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you,
Agree with Realist. It defines the meaning of incredible and yet the MSM refuse to consider the logic of the facts as outlined by Realist.
Is there any hope for the criminally obtuse?
It appears the SCOTUS has scuttled the lawsuit. Sheesh. Time to get out the flack jackets and go to Washington, I guess. Sure hope I don’t have to shoot my own brothers, but I love my freedom more than them anyway. I am nearly 70 years old and I can’t get around very well, but I am also like the honey badger who just doesn’t give a damn about it anyway. The only good Communist is one who isn’t breathing.
When the Marxist Democrats get upset, they illegally burn down cities and use their fascist thugs Antifa and BLM to terrorize the opposition.
When Conservative Republicans get upset they legally seek redress through the ballot.
Now that the Marxist Democrats have taken out this option through election fraud that leaves only the US Constitution as a means of redress.
Like the 2nd Amendment.
We got to make the Presidental election a national holiday and require vote in person. We should make everyone that chooses to vote dip there thumb in blue ink so we don’t get double voters. It would solve a lot of this fraud. One vote, one person.
Will the SC have the courage to hear arguments that one State (and 17 more and a State Legislature and the POTUS) can be adversely effected by 4 States that did not follow the Law in their elections?
Does one State have the Right to have the SC intercede and challenge an election in another State? Even if illegally conceived and processed?
What would be the course of action for a defendant State take to correct an illegal election?
Would it be Constitutional?
There is a path and it is legal and Constitutional and allows these same States have their Legislators appoint the delegates for electors.
BUT it means this process would keep Trump as POTUS and that Biden didn’t really win the election.
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Its over everyone, the US Supreme Court has rejected the case.
LOCK and LOAD My Deplorable Friends !
BREAKING: US Supreme Court Throws Out Texas Lawsuit Against
Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin
The end of justice in America.
TRENDING: BREAKING: US Supreme Court Throws Out Texas Lawsuit
Against Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin
SCOTUS claims Texas has not demonstrated a judicially
recognizable interest in the manner!
SC ruled against Texas.
So now we are faced with a choice.
Submit, or secede.
Looks like it.
If Supreme Court does not make mail in ballots “Unconstitutional,” USA beomes Venezuela, Sudan, Haiti, etc. No-one can defeat corruption unless become a part of it. I do not see how Trump could win in 2024, unless engage in fraud. It appears it is who the USA
become.
Its NOT over. See Flynn’s recent tweets, citing Tracy. This filing was ‘out of the blue’. The main state by state filings remain. There is also ‘the chance’ — please weigh in — that the Texas filing was not ripe. Perhaps the states needed to certify first before there’s injury. Or other remedies in each state needed to be exhausted first before SCOTUS would touch it. Might be grasping, but Flynn says stay calm.
Please. Enough of the Hope Porn. There are too many people in high places that cannot afford to have Trump win. I said that long before this rigged election even took place. This country is a cesspool of corruption in which the corrupt just laugh at us law abiding citizens. They dare us to do anything to stop them.
US Supreme court refuses to hear TX case
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/supreme-court-declines-to-hear-texas-case-ending-trumps-effort-to-overturn-election-11607730507
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https://www.politicususa.com/2020/12/11/supreme-court-rejects-texas-lawsuit.html
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scotus-denied-election-texas-election-suit
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If SCOTUS hides behind the pseudo-legal principle of standing, then I say they have forfeited their own standing to decide any legal matters for the American people. They have violated their oath of office, they should properly be seen as a domestic enemy of the Constitution and the American people and summarily removed from their judicial office.
The American people have been defrauded of their right to a free and fair election. Since SCOTUS refuses to even hear the evidence of fraud, they must be viewed as complicit in it and/or they may have been blackmailed and coerced to act against their Constitutional duty.
If we had a DOJ or FBI that was not fully corrupted, a full-blown public investigation would have begun the night of November 3rd. There is no way to look at this operation as anything but a coup d’etat against the American people, and most unfortunately, high levels of our own government look to be directly implicated in its planning and execution.
Paxton is a lightweight. If it was part of the Dog and Pony show for us. If it was a SERIOUS lawsuit Gregg Abbott would have written it.
I am amazed at how people don’t get what is happening. By the the time Americans catch on, it will be over.
China doesn’t care about Americans and neither does the American government they purchased.
When Trump is gone, everything will go back to “normal”.
“Our kind” will be dealt with, they already have a plan. Soros 2.0 they don’t even need trains this time….