The Benghazi Story Widens – The Official State Department Version

The State Department has released its phone transcript with reporters explaining the Benghazi attack.  The transcript was between Officials in the State Dept. and Reporters on a conference call.  We are sharing the call content and inserting points, links and questions from our research.  It is a long read.

Weapons of Misdirection

But first, before we get to the official version of events, let’s just put this Anti-Prophet Muhammed video nonsense to rest.   The State Department embassy in Cairo did not even know about the movie until they were questioned by a Mid East inquiry on September 9th:

The protest in Cairo was organized by Ayman Al Zawahiri in Egypt to demand the release of the Blind Shiek – Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman.

We clearly outlined that with irrefutable evidence HERE. So, knowing that, and knowing there was NO protest outside the consulate, lets check out the official State Department explanation of Benghazi:

(Transcript from State Dept)

MODERATOR: Hey, everybody. Thanks for joining us on such relatively short notice, late on a Tuesday evening. You know that since the beginning, we’ve been working with Congress on trying to ascertain the facts and convey the facts of what happened on 9/11 in Benghazi. In the last 24 hours and in the next 24 hours, we’re going to be engaging with Congress, and we wanted to give you a sense, in the press, of what we’ve been telling them.

So joining us tonight are two Senior State Department Officials, and this will be on background, and they will be Senior State Department Official Number One, who is [Senior State Department Official Number One]; and Senior State Department Official Number Two, [Senior State Department Official Number Two].

So in any case, thank you for joining us, and I’m going to hand it over to Senior State Department Official Number One. And just a reminder before I do, again, this is on background. Thank you.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE: All right. Let me proceed. I’m going to give you as much information as possible about the events of that night, but I am going to start with a scene-setter.

So let me set the stage. On April 5th, 2011, a small Department of State team headed by Chris Stevens arrives by chartered boat in Benghazi. They set up shop in a hotel. This is at a time when Benghazi was liberated, Qadhafi was still in power in Tripoli, the war was going on, our Ambassador had been expelled from Tripoli by Qadhafi, the Embassy staff had been evacuated because it was unsafe. So Chris Stevens coming back into Benghazi – coming into Benghazi on April 5th, 2011, is the only U.S. Government people in Libya at this time.

They set up shop in a hotel, as I mentioned. A few weeks later in June, a bomb explodes in the parking lot in front of the hotel. The group in Benghazi makes a decision to move to a new location. They move to a couple of places, and by August they settle on a large compound which is where the actual activity on 9/11 took place. So they’re in a large compound, where they remain.

[*note, this refutes the prior claim the perimeter wall of the consulate was "tested" with an IED in June.  They did not move into the consulate until August?  We have video from the June attack which the terrorists posted on U-Tube.  The Brigades of the Imprisoned Sheikh Omar Abdul Rahman, which claimed the June 6, 2012, bombing of the US Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, released a video of what it says is the attack.  Note their name, again further confirmation of the intent of the attack itself.  Our Theory 

In a communiqué posted on jihadist forums on June 11, the group reported that its fighters planted an explosive in the wall of the consulate, the blasting of which injured a number of guards.  It added that the attack came in response to the drone strike on al-Qaeda official Abu Yahya al-Libi in North Waziristan, and also in response to American drones flying in Libyan skies  ]

The compound is roughly 300 yards long – that’s three football fields long – and a hundred yards wide. We need that much room to provide the best possible setback against car bombs. Over the next few months, physical security at the compound is strengthened. The outer wall is upgraded, its height is increased to nine feet.  It is topped by three feet of barbed wire and concertina wire all around the huge property.  External lighting is increased.   Jersey barriers, which are big concrete blocks [K-Rails], are installed outside and inside the gate. Steel drop bars are added at the gates to control vehicle access and to provide some anti-ram protection. The buildings on the compound itself were strengthened.

Looking toward the main entrance gate from building C & B. The “Barracks” are beside the gate, the TOC is the building on the Left.

The compound has four buildings on it, and you guys are going to have to get used to this, because I refer them to – as Building C, Building B, Tactical Operations Center, and a barracks. So Building C is a building that is essentially a large residence. It has numerous bedrooms and it is – it has a safe haven installed in it, and I’ll talk more about that in a minute. Building C ultimately is the building that the Ambassador was in, so keep that in your heads.

Building B is another residence on the compound. It has bedrooms and it has a cantina. That’s where the folks dine. The Tactical Operations Center, which is just across the way from Building B, has offices and a bedroom. That’s where the security officers had their main setup, that’s where the security cameras are, a lot of the phones – it’s basically their operations center. So I’ll call it the TOC from now on.

And then there was a barracks. The barracks is a small house by the front gate, the main gate of the compound. In that barracks is a Libyan security force which I’ll describe in a minute. Security on the compound consists of five Diplomatic Security special agents and four members of the Libyan Government security force, which I will henceforth call the 17th February Brigade. It is a militia, a friendly militia, which has basically been deputized by the Libyan Government to serve as our security, our host government security.

[*Note, the 17th Feb Brigade is far away from a friendly militia - Ansar al Sharia (“Supporters of Islamic Law”), the al-Qaida-linked militia believed to have led the consulate assault in September, is a spinoff of the February 17 Martyrs Brigade.  To an American with common sense not subverted by advanced degrees, the thought of putting Islamic “martyrs” in charge of American “infidels” in Benghazi — which, fun fact, literally means “city of holy warriors” — would trigger the inevitable “heck, no.” And that’s without even knowing what is significant about Feb. 17...... /SD]

In addition to all those, there is an additional security force at another U.S. compound two kilometers away.  [The Annex]  It serves as a rapid reaction force, a quick reaction security team – a quick reaction security team, okay?

Now we’re on the day of, and before I go into this discussion of the day of the events of 9/11, I’m going to be – I want to be clear to you all. I am giving you this – you my best shot on this one. I am giving you what I know. I am giving it to you in as much granularity as I possibly can. This is still, however, under investigation. There are other facts to be known, but I think I’m going to be able to give you quite a lot, as far as I know it. I have talked to the – to almost all the agents that were involved, as well as other people.

Okay. The Ambassador has arrived in Benghazi on the 10th of September. He does meetings both on the compound and off the compound on that day, spends the night. The next day is 9/11.   He has all his – because it is 9/11, out of prudence, he has all his meetings on the compound. He receives a succession of visitors during the day.

About 7:30 in the evening, he has his last meeting. It is with a Turkish diplomat. And at – when the meeting is over, at 8:30 – he has all these meetings, by the way, in what I call Building C – when the meeting is over, he escorts the Turkish diplomat to the main gate. There is an agent there with them. They say goodbye. They’re out in a street in front of the compound. Everything is calm at 8:30 p.m. There’s nothing unusual. There has been nothing unusual during the day at all outside.

After he sees the Turkish diplomat off, the Ambassador returns to Building C, where the information management officer – his name is Sean Smith, and who is one of the victims – the information management officer – I’ll just call him Sean from now on, on this call – and four other – four Diplomatic Security agents are all at Building C. One Diplomatic Security agent is in the TOC, the Tactical Operations Center.   All of these agents have their side arms.

A few minutes later – we’re talking about 9 o’clock at night – the Ambassador retires to his room, the others are still at Building C, and the one agent in the TOC.   At 9:40 p.m., the agent in the TOC and the agents in Building C hear loud noises coming from the front gate. They also hear gunfire and an explosion.

The “explosion” was a breach in the wall next to (right side) the barracks. Looking from the compound toward the main gate this is to the right of the main gate. However, note there is no barbed wire visible in these perimeter wall shots.

The agent in the TOC looks at his cameras – these are cameras that have pictures of the perimeter – and the camera on the main gate reveals a large number of people – a large number of men, armed men, flowing into the compound.

Another angle of the wall breach

A second wall breach

One special agent immediately goes to get the Ambassador in his bedroom and gets Sean, and the three of them enter the safe haven inside the building.

And I should break for a second and describe what a safe haven is. A safe haven is a fortified area within a building.   This particular safe haven has a very heavy metal grill on it with several locks on it.   It essentially divides the one – the single floor of that building in half, and half the floor is the safe haven, the bedroom half. Also in the safe haven is a central sort of closet area where people can take refuge where there are no windows around. In that safe haven are medical supplies, water, and such things. All the windows to that area of the building have all been grilled. A couple of them have grills that can be open from the inside so people inside can get out, but they can’t be – obviously can’t be opened from the outside.

The agent with the Ambassador in the safe haven has – in addition to his side arm, has his long gun, or I should say – it’s an M4 submachine gun, standard issue. The other agents who have heard the noise in the – at the front gate run to Building B or the TOC – they run to both, two of them to Building B, one to the TOC – to get their long guns and other kit. By kit, I mean body armor, a helmet, additional munitions, that sort of thing.

They turn around immediately and head back – or the two of them, from Building B, turn around immediately with their kit and head back to Villa C, where the Ambassador and his colleagues are. They encounter a large group of armed men between them and Building C. I should say that the agent in Building C with the Ambassador has radioed that they are all in the safe haven and are fine. The agents that encounter the armed group make a tactical decision to turn around and go back to their Building B and barricade themselves in there. So we have people in three locations right now.

And I neglected to mention – I should have mentioned from the top that the attackers, when they came through the gate, immediately torched the barracks. It is aflame, the barracks that was occupied by the 17th February Brigade armed host country security team. I should also have mentioned that at the very first moment when the agent in the TOC seized the people flowing through the gate, he immediately hits an alarm, and so there is a loud alarm. He gets on the public address system as well, yelling, “Attack, attack.” Having said that, the agents – the other agents had heard the noise and were already reacting.

Okay. So we have agents in Building C – or an agent in Building C with the Ambassador and Sean, we have two agents in Building B, and we have two agents in the TOC. All – Building C is – attackers penetrate in Building C.

They walk around inside the building into a living area, not the safe haven area. The building is dark. They look through the grill, they see nothing. They try the grill, the locks on the grill; they can’t get through. The agent is, in fact, watching them from the darkness. He has his long gun trained on them and he is ready to shoot if they come any further. They do not go any further.

They have jerry cans. They have jerry cans full of diesel fuel that they’ve picked up at the entrance when they torched the barracks. They have sprinkled the diesel fuel around. They light the furniture in the living room – this big, puffy, Middle Eastern furniture. They light it all on fire, and they have also lit part of the exterior of the building on fire.

At the same time, there are other attackers that have penetrated Building B. The two agents in Building B are barricaded in an inner room there. The attackers circulate in Building B but do not get to the agents and eventually leave.

A third group of attackers tried to break into the TOC. They pound away at the door, they throw themselves at the door, they kick the door, they really treat it pretty rough; they are unable to get in, and they withdraw.

Back in Building C, where the Ambassador is, the building is rapidly filling with smoke. The attackers have exited. The smoke is extremely thick. It’s diesel smoke, and also, obviously, smoke from – fumes from the furniture that’s burning. And the building inside is getting more and more black. The Ambassador and the two others make a decision that it’s getting – it’s starting to get tough to breathe in there, and so they move to another part of the safe haven, a bathroom that has a window. They open the window. The window is, of course, grilled. They open the window trying to get some air in. That doesn’t help. The building is still very thick in smoke.

And I am sitting about three feet away from Senior Official Number Two, and the agent I talked to said he could not see that far away in the smoke and the darkness. So they’re in the bathroom and they’re now on the floor of the bathroom because they’re starting to hurt for air. They are breathing in the bottom two feet or so of the room, and even that is becoming difficult.

So they make a decision that they’re going to have to leave the safe haven. They decide that they’re going to go out through an adjacent bedroom which has one of the window grills that will open. The agent leads the two others into a hallway in that bedroom. He opens the grill. He’s going first because that is standard procedure. There is firing going on outside. I should have mentioned that during all of this, all of these events that I’ve been describing, there is considerable firing going on outside.

There are tracer bullets. There is smoke. There is – there are explosions. I can’t tell you that they were RPGs, but I think they were RPGs. So there’s a lot of action going on, and there’s dozens of armed men on the – there are dozens of armed men on the compound.

Okay. We’ve got the agent. He’s opening the – he is suffering severely from smoke inhalation at this point. He can barely breathe. He can barely see. He’s got the grill open and he flops out of the window onto a little patio that’s been enclosed by sandbags. He determines that he’s under fire, but he also looks back and sees he doesn’t have his two companions. He goes back in to get them. He can’t find them. He goes in and out several times before smoke overcomes him completely, and he has to stagger up a small ladder to the roof of the building and collapse. He collapses.

At that point, he radios the other agents. Again, the other agents are barricaded in Building C and – Building B, and the TOC. He radios the other agents that he’s got a problem. He is very difficult to understand. He can barely speak.

The other agents, at this time, can see that there is some smoke, or at least the agents in the TOC – this is the first they become aware that Building C is on fire. They don’t have direct line of sight. They’re seeing smoke and now they’ve heard from the agent. So they make a determination to go to Building C to try to find their colleagues.

The agent in the TOC, who is in full gear, opens the door, throws a smoke grenade, which lands between the two buildings, to obscure what he is doing, and he moves to Building B, enters Building B. He un-barricades the two agents that are in there, and the three of them emerge and head for Building C.

 

There are, however, plenty of bad guys and plenty of firing still on the compound, and they decide that the safest way for them to move is to go into an armored vehicle, which is parked right there. They get into the armored vehicle and they drive to Building C.

They drive to the part of the building where the agent had emerged. He’s on the roof. They make contact with the agent. Two of them set up as best a perimeter as they can, and the third one, third agent, goes into the building. This goes on for many minutes. Goes into the building, into the choking smoke. When that agent can’t proceed, another agent goes in, and so on. And they take turns going into the building on their hands and knees, feeling their way through the building to try to find their two colleagues. They find Sean. They pull him out of the building. He is deceased. They are unable to find the Ambassador.

Glen Doherty (SEAL) – Tyrone Woods (SEAL) - Sean Smith (Ambassador Aide)

At this point, the special security team, the quick reaction security team from the other compound, arrive on this compound. They came from what we call the annex. With them – there are six of them – with them are about 16 members of the Libyan February 17th Brigade, the same militia that was – whose – some members of which were on our compound to begin with in the barracks.

As those guys attempt to secure a perimeter around Building C, they also move to the TOC, where one agent has been manning the phone. I neglected to mention from the top that that agent from the top of this incident, or the very beginning of this incident, has been on the phone. He had called the quick reaction security team, he had called the Libyan authorities, he had called the Embassy in Tripoli, and he had called Washington. He had them all going to ask for help. And he remained in the TOC.

So at this point in the evening, the members of the quick reaction team, some parts of it, go to the TOC with the Libyan 17th Brigade – 17th February Brigade.

They get him out of the TOC. He moves with them to join their colleagues outside of Building C. All the agents at this point are suffering from smoke inhalation. The agent that had been in the building originally with the Ambassador is very, very severely impacted, the others somewhat less so, but they can’t go back in. The remaining agent, the one that had come from the TOC, freshest set of lungs, goes into the building himself, though he is advised not to. He goes into the building himself, as do some members of the quick reaction security team.

The agent makes a couple of attempts, cannot proceed. He’s back outside of the building. He takes his shirt off. There’s a swimming pool nearby. He dips his shirt in the swimming pool and wraps it around his head, goes in one last time. Still can’t find the Ambassador. Nobody is able to find the Ambassador.

At this point, the quick reaction security team and the Libyans, especially the Libyan forces, are saying, “We cannot stay here. It’s time to leave. We’ve got to leave. We can’t hold the perimeter.” So at that point, they make the decision to evacuate the compound and to head for the annex. The annex is about two kilometers away. My agents pile into an armored vehicle with the body of Sean, and they exit the main gate.

Here it’s a little harder to understand because I don’t have a diagram that you can show – that I can show you. But in a nutshell, they take fire almost as soon as they emerge from the compound. They go a couple of – they go in one direction toward the annex. They don’t like what they’re seeing ahead of them. There are crowds. There are groups of men. They turn around and go the other direction. They don’t like what they’re seeing in that direction either. They make another u-turn. They’re going at a steady pace. There is traffic in the roads around there. This is in Benghazi, after all. Now, they’re going at a steady pace and they’re trying not to attract too much attention, so they’re going maybe 15 miles an hour down the street.

They come up to a knot of men in an adjacent compound, and one of the men signals them to turn into that compound. They agents at that point smell a rat, and they step on it. They have taken some fire already. At this point, they take very heavy fire as they go by this group of men. They take direct fire from AK-47s from about two feet away. The men also throw hand grenades or gelignite bombs under – at the vehicle and under it.

At this point, the armored vehicle is extremely heavily impacted, but it’s still holding. There are two flat tires, but they’re still rolling. And they continue far down the block toward the crowds and far down several blocks to the crowd – to another crowd where this road t-bones into a main road. There is a crowd there. They pass through the crowd and on – turn right onto this main road. This main road is completely choked with traffic, enormous traffic jam typical for, I think, that time of night in that part of town. There are shops along the road there and so on.

Rather than get stuck in the traffic, the agents careen their car over the median – there is a median, a grassy median – and into the opposing traffic, and they go counter-flow until they emerge into a more lightly trafficked area and ultimately make their way to the annex.

Once at the annex, the annex has its own security – a security force there. There are people at the annex. The guys in the car join the defense at the annex. They take up firing positions on the roof – some of them do – and other firing positions around the annex. The annex is, at this time, also taking fire and does take fire intermittently, on and off, for the next several hours. The fire consists of AK-47s but also RPGs, and it’s, at times, quite intense.

As the night goes on, a team of reinforcements from Embassy Tripoli arrives by chartered aircraft at Benghazi airport and makes its way to the compound – to the annex, I should say.

And I should have mentioned that the quick reaction – the quick reaction security team that was at the compound has also, in addition to my five agents, has also returned to the annex safely.

The reinforcements from Tripoli are at the compound – at the annex. They take up their positions. And somewhere around 5:45 in the morning – sorry, somewhere around 4 o’clock in the morning – I have my timeline wrong – somewhere around 4 o’clock in the morning the annex takes mortar fire. It is precise and some of the mortar fire lands on the roof of the annex. It immediately killed two security personnel that are there, [Glen Doherty and Ty Woods] (severely wounds one of the agents that’s come from the compound.

At that point, a decision is made at the annex that they are going to have to evacuate the whole enterprise. And the next hours are spent, one, securing the annex, and then two, moving in a significant and large convoy of vehicles everybody to the airport, where they are evacuated on two flights.

So that’s the end of my tick-tock.

SEALS: Glen Doherty and Ty Woods

Attack start time 9:40pm (local) – Attack end time approx 05:00 (local)

MODERATOR: Great. Thank you so much. Given the length of that tick-tock, I would just ask before we turn it over to questions that you keep your questions very concise. And again, a reminder that this is an on-background briefing.

So, Operator, go ahead and open it up for questions.

OPERATOR: Certainly. Ladies and gentlemen, if you would like to ask a question, please press * then 1. You’ll hear a tone indicating you’ve been placed in queue, and you may remove yourself at any time by pressing the # key. If you are using a speakerphone, please pick up the handset before pressing the numbers. Once again, if you have a question, press * 1 at this time. And we will limit you to one question, and you may re-queue after that. It’ll be just one moment.

First question is from the line of Anne Gearan with the Washington Post. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi. You said a moment ago that there was nothing unusual outside, on the street, or outside the gates of the main compound. When did the agents inside – what – excuse me, what did the agents inside think was happening when the first group of men gathered there and they first heard those explosions? Did they think it was a protest, or did they think it was something else?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: The agent in the TOC heard the noise, heard the firing. Firing is not unusual in Benghazi at 9:40 at night, but he immediately reacted and looked at his cameras and saw people coming in, hit the alarm. And the rest is as I described it. Does that help?

MODERATOR: Great. Next question?

OPERATOR: The question is from Andrea Mitchell, NBC News. Please, go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi. When did you finally find Ambassador Stevens? And do you know now how he got to the hospital? Was it definitely Libyans? Were they the militia, the February 17th militia? What can you tell us about it?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: We do not know exactly how the Ambassador got to the hospital. That is one of the issues that we are – that we hope to resolve in the ongoing reviews and the information we are still seeking. We know he got to the hospital at some point. The hospital picked a cell phone out of his pocket, and we believe just started calling numbers that were on the cell phone that had received calls, and that is how we got the information that he was there.

MODERATOR: Okay, next question.

OPERATOR: The next question is from the line of Michael Gordon with the New York Times. Please, go ahead.

QUESTION: Yes. Could you tell me, please – and I know you mentioned this – when was the Tripoli reinforcements requested? How long did it take them to get to Benghazi, how many of them were there, and did it represent all of the available security personnel from Tripoli?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER TWO: The calls were made to Tripoli at the moment that the – at the same time the agent in the TOC sounded the alarm and then proceeded to make calls. I’m not going to go into any details about the number of security personnel who moved.

MODERATOR: Okay. Next question, please.

OPERATOR: The question is from the line of Eli Lake, with Newsweek’s Daily Beast. Please, go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi, thanks so much for doing this. Do you have any response from the charge from Erik Nordstrom, the Regional Security Officer who left this summer, who is set to testify tomorrow to say that it was a mistake to begin to normalize security operations and reduce security resources in accordance with an artificial timetable? That’s from a letter he sent earlier this month to the oversight committee.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: I don’t know what Erik is going to fully testify on tomorrow. That’s something that will come out in the hearing. We could have a different discussion about all the security measures we had taken, but that’s a different question.

MODERATOR: Okay, next question, please.

OPERATOR: The next question is from the line of Margaret Brennan, CBS News. Please, go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi, thanks for doing this. The timeline here begins around 8:30 p.m., but we had heard in response to some reports where reporters had found paperwork documents on the grounds of the compound that secure materials, that confidential paperwork had actually been secured earlier in the day, therefore there wasn’t any compromised material found at the compound. When did that occur? At 8:30 at night? When were those documents secured or shredded or burned or whatever?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: Because of the – this was a post and not a – and we – this post held no classified documents. They had computer communications with Washington, but the material would arrive on the screen and you would read it on the screen, and then that was it. There was no classified paper, so there was no paper to burn.

MODERATOR: All right, thank you. Next question, please.

OPERATOR: The next question is from the line of Brad Klapper with AP. Please, go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi, yes. You described several incidents you had with groups of men, armed men. What in all of these events that you’ve described led officials to believe for the first several days that this was prompted by protests against the video?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: That is a question that you would have to ask others. That was not our conclusion. I’m not saying that we had a conclusion, but we outlined what happened. The Ambassador walked guests out around 8:30 or so, there was no one on the street at approximately 9:40, then there was the noise and then we saw on the cameras the – a large number of armed men assaulting the compound.

MODERATOR: Okay, thank you. We’re ready for the next question, please.

OPERATOR: The next question is from the line of Toby Zakaria with Reuters. Please, go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi. Do you know what the threat level for Benghazi was the day before the attack? And also, did anyone suggest to the Ambassador that it might not be prudent to go to Benghazi on 9/11?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL TWO: Taking your questions in reverse order, ambassadors travel, ambassadors must travel, ambassadors must get out and meet with a variety of individuals, especially in countries that have multiple centers of energy or power. That’s just – it just must happen.

But secondly, as Official Number One said earlier, the Ambassador did events in the city on the 10th. He had plans to do events in the city later in the week. But on the 11th, he remained in the compound.

As in terms of the – of any kind of security threat, the – both ODNI spokesman and the DNI have been correctly quoted as saying that there was no actionable intelligence of any planned or imminent attack.

MODERATOR: Okay. Thank you. Next question, please.

OPERATOR: The next question comes from the line of David Lerman with Bloomberg News. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Hi. Did the Ambassador – before the attack, did the Ambassador request that security be increased in Benghazi? And if so, did anything ever come of it?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER TWO: The – when the Ambassador traveled to Benghazi, he traveled with two additional security agents over and above the complement of three who were assigned to post. So there were five agents with him there rather than the two who are normally assigned there – the three who are normally assigned. So they were up two.

MODERATOR: Okay. Thank you. Next question, please.

OPERATOR: The next question comes from the line of Jo Biddle with AFP. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Thank you very much. The two people who died in the compound – in the annex, excuse me – were they part of the five security agents you’ve mentioned, or were they separate to that? And how many people did you have to evacuate that night from the annex?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER TWO: Because – since unfortunately we couldn’t fit everything on one compound, we had two – the principle compound and the annex. We had – therefore, had our security professionals divided between the two compounds.

MODERATOR: Okay. Thank you. Time for just a few more questions.

OPERATOR: The next question comes from the line of Jonathan Karl with ABC News. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Yeah, hi. Just two quick follow-ups – I want to be clear on one thing. You said as soon as they heard the noises outside, they went to look and saw armed men assaulting the compound. That was the very first thing that they saw after hearing the noise outside?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE: They heard noises, firing, and an explosion. The agent in the TOC looked at his camera and saw people coming through the front gate.

QUESTION: Okay. So there was –

MODERATOR: Okay. Thank you. Next question, please.

OPERATOR: The next question –

MODERATOR: Sorry, we’re trying to keep it moving along here.

OPERATOR: — from the line of Kim Ghattas with BBC. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Yes, thank you for taking the call. I just wanted to clarify a little bit whether – with the rundown that you just gave us, whether it is possible to now say clearly that this was very much a preplanned attack, and if so, whether you can explain why there was no actionable intelligence.

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER TWO: This – that subject is now under review by both the FBI and potentially the Accountability Review Board based on whatever information the FBI or the intelligence community collects.

MODERATOR: Right, okay. Thank you. Just a couple more questions.

OPERATOR: The next question is from the line of Shaun Waterman, Washington Times. Please go ahead.

MODERATOR: Shaun? Let’s go to the next question, and maybe Shaun can go next. Maybe he’s not off mute.

OPERATOR: The next question is from Dion Nissenbaum with Wall Street Journal. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Thanks for taking the call. I was – just wanted to get a little more clarity about the annex attack and when the attack started on the annex. Was it before the convoy arrived or as they arrived or –

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER ONE: It started after they arrived and went on intermittently for several hours.

MODERATOR: Okay. Thanks. I think we have one more question, then. Time for one more question.

OPERATOR: Certainly. Our next question is from the line of Chuck Todd, NBC News. Please go ahead.

QUESTION: Can you at least explain the process by which if a request for more security comes in, how that’s – how you go about determining resources, so in the instance of the reports that more security was requested by the folks in Libya, can you sort of walk through how that process works?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER TWO: Certainly. The – this is sort of an iterative process, a discussion between the field and Washington, back and forth; the field identifying what their needs are, Washington working very, very closely with them. We always attempt to mitigate our risk. We cannot eliminate them. Sometimes the post – any post in the world might come in and say, “We need A, B, and C,” there would be a dialogue, and instead of sending them A, B, and C, we would send them B, C, and D because in this discussion process, we go to functionality, and when we determine the functionality that gets us the maximum – a maximum possible security, then we – that is what we deliver to the post.

MODERATOR: Okay. Thank you. I feel like I just ignored Shaun. I know you dropped off. If you’re still on, you get last chance here, buddy.

OPERATOR: And our last question does come from Shaun Waterman, Washington Times.

QUESTION: Hello?

MODERATOR: Yes, Shaun. Go ahead, buddy.

QUESTION: Oh, hey. Okay. Thanks, man. So could – I mean, just in view of what you are now saying about the attack and the intensity of it and the numbers of people involved, what – can you say what kind of security presence might have been needed to repel an attack like that? I mean, what – I mean, if the criticism is there wasn’t enough security, how much would you have needed to protect the compound from this attack?

SENIOR STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL NUMBER TWO: It is difficult to answer hypothetical questions, but let me just put it this way. The lethality and the number of armed people is unprecedented. There had been no attacks like that anywhere in Libya – Tripoli, Benghazi, or elsewhere – in the time that we had been there. And so it is unprecedented. In fact, it would be very, very hard to find a precedent for an attack like that in recent diplomatic history.

MODERATOR: Okay. Thank you, and glad we got that question in. Thanks to all of you for joining us so late this evening. We do appreciate it, and we will keep in touch with all of you as we move forward. Again, thank you.

Call Ends – Link to Entire Transcript

We are still of the opinion the “intent” of the attack was kidnapping which we outlined here.   Kidnapping and ransom in exchange  for Sheikh Omar Abdel-Rahman, The Blind Sheik.

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56 Responses to The Benghazi Story Widens – The Official State Department Version

  1. akathesob says:

    WOW! This just gets worse as the story comes along. Just mad as hell at this point.

    • From 9:40pm to 5:00am under fire?….. c’mon… talk about a pathetic response. And the 17th Feb Brigade was who we were PAYING for protection? Seriously? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot !

      It was the 17th who hoisted the al-Qaeda flag atop the Benghazi courthouse in April 2011. DUH !!! I don’t care what they were saying to our face…. the risk was too great. Grrrrrr…. I need to go spit for a while.

      • akathesob says:

        Absolutely disgusting leadership we have. In that amount of time we could have decimated the entire country. This is well and far beyond asleep at the wheel… SMH!

      • michellc says:

        So over 7 hours and we couldn’t send any help? I might have been born at night but not last night. There is no way in heck that something like this going on that someone in the WH was not contacted.
        These people disgust me. Actually disgust is too mild.

        • boricuafudd says:

          The F.A.S.T. Marines in Rota, Spain are less than 3 hours away, and task with this particular scenario of an attack on an Embassy. The went to Tripoli, but after the fact the next day.

        • canadacan says:

          It is my understanding and I don’t know where I got my information That 45 minutes into this escapade Obama knew about this and yes he just went to bed.

          • boricuafudd says:

            According to the testimony, the attack was being watch in Washington on a live feed, had he care to know what was going on.

            • John McLachlan says:

              If the attack upon the consulate was indeed a kidnapping attempt and if Obama knew about this in advance, then he would probably not feel the same tension and suspense which one would feel when there was uncertainty about the outcome. So far as he was concerned, everything would appear to be running according to the script. The You Tube video would be blamed, the blind sheik released in a prisoner exchange and the UN resolution criminalizing criticism of religion would be legitimized.
              If you know what the scripted outcome is and you lack true empathy with others, you would be unable to understand intuitively how to act as though you felt the same suspense as they did.
              I think that a more astute politician, even one who felt no concern about the lives of others would have at least pretended concern by immediately convening a meeting of all cabinet members, with aides and cancellaing all engagements the following day, so that the press could report favourably that the president was treating the matter with the utmost seriousness.
              Going to bed early and then going on a fundraising trip does not suggest serious concern about the fate of American citizens, including the ambassador, who were in danger of their lives.

              • boricuafudd says:

                Exactly, you notice that no one on the MSM is mentioning this. This is clear indication that either he didn’t care or it was expected. The Conservatives need to bring this up at every press conference, it truly is a dereliction of duty IMHO.

              • Lin says:

                It is my understanding and I don’t know where I got my information that Romney said in his fund raising speech that if an opportunity like this came up he would take advantage of it. It is believed that Romney’s campaign through Mormon CIA operatives and the Israeli Mossad attempted the kidnapping to secure the election.

  2. Reporters always ask odd questions. Why not ask what was housed at the consulate? Why not ask about UN weapons used? So many questions…. The TOC operator was on the phone with Washington DC in real time, with who? Who took the call?…. And not one question about Susan Rice? C’mon….. Sheeesh

    • akathesob says:

      Is all very true. And this mess is just one of many. But I do not see BO walking away from this one. You guys are pulling up hard facts the Lamestream media should be doing. What a disgrace as well they are.

    • ctdar says:

      That is the reason why Fox News invite was lost

    • recoverydotgod says:

      I hope the people from the swing state of Ohio, get wind of that Amb. Susan Rice sat in their stadium with an OSU jacket on, talked about Chris Stevens and blamed attacks on a video.

      [video interview at link]

      Ambassador Susan Rice visits ‘Shoe, calls Libya deaths a ‘tragedy’
      By Kristen Mitchell
      Published: Saturday, September 15, 2012

      http://www.thelantern.com/campus/ambassador-susan-rice-visits-shoe-calls-libya-deaths-a-tragedy-1.2901920#.UHrHSI7_TgE

      However, she said people should know the incidents of the past week are “not a reaction against the United States, it’s a reaction against a video that’s deeply, deeply offensive to many, many people.”

      [snip]

      • John McLachlan says:

        The attack upon the US Consulate in Benghazi, during the course of which the US ambassador and three other American citizens were murdered was known by the Obama administration, from the very first, to be a terrorist attack.
        The Obama administration, however, lied and falsely claimed that the attack had occurred during a demonstration, which got out of hand and was hijacked by extremists.
        The Obama administration claimed that this non-existent demonstration was against a You Tube video.
        Even if, for any political reason, it was considered necessary to claim that a terrorist attack was, instead a demonstration which got out of hand, on the anniversary of the 9/11 attack upon the WTC, there is no need for the Obama administration to report anything other than that there were anti-American demonstrators, protesting outside the US embassy or consulate in a number of cities throughout the world.
        Anti-American demonstrations are common, particularly on 9/11.
        The Obama administration had no need to be specific about the particular excuse employed for an anti-American demonstration yet chose to give a specific but false reason for the falsely claimed demonstration.
        The false reason given for the falsely claimed demonstration, has, predictably, emboldened attacks world-wide upon the right to free speech and legitimized claims that the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution should be subordinate to the UN global anti-blasphemy law, sponsored by the OIC, which the Obama administration supports.
        Despite knowing that the terrorist attack on the US consulate in Benghazi and the deaths of the US ambassador to Libya and three other American citizens were not in any way related to the You Tube video, the Obama administration arrested the producer of the You Tube video clip, supposedly because of a technical violation of his parole conditions.
        This has resulted in claims throughout the world that foreign religious zealots have the right to censor the speech of American citizens, within America.
        At his speech to the UN, president Obama did not defend the right to free speech.
        Instead, he castigated those who did not revere the prophet of islam and implicitly condoned violence towards those whose speech one disagreed with.
        President Obama is credibly rumored to wear a ring with inscription: “there is no god but allah”.
        Hillary Clinton’s close advisor Huma Abdeen is closely tied by family and previous employment to the muslim brotherhood.
        The muslim brotherhood strongly supports the UN global anti-blasphemy law, which Hillary Clinton has supported.

  3. Sharon says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/10/unreal-obama-administration-didnt-reach-benghazi-for-17-days-because-they-were-waiting-on-visas-video/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    THIS IS INSANE…
    The Obama State Department testified this week that the rational that they were not on the ground for 17 days in Benghazi was because they could not get Visas

    FWIW.

    And this bit:

    It’s true… Press TV reported on this back on October 6th.

    According to the report, security concerns had kept the American intelligence agents and investigators from traveling the 400 miles from the American embassy in Tripoli to gather evidence at the US consulate in Benghazi. Administration officials on Thursday attributed the delay to the Libyan government, which they said was slow in granting approval for the US operation.

    • recoverydotgod says:

      AG Holder was managing the “criminal investigation”. AG Holder returned “immediately”, which would mean, after his speech in Doha a couple days after the attack.

      At Qatar forum, Holder confirms FBI probe of Libya envoy killings
      By Jerry Seper
      Thursday, September 13, 2012

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/13/holder-condemns-senseless-and-brutal-attacks-us-di/print/

      [snip]

      Mr. Holder and Michael Froman, assistant to the president and deputy national security adviser for international economic affairs, are leading a high-level delegation consisting of officials from the Justice Department, the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, the State Department and the national security staff to Doha for the inaugural Arab Forum on Asset Recovery. The United States is co-organizing the forum with the government of the state of Qatar.

      [snip]

      Holder Mideast trip cut short over Libya investigation
      Published September 13, 2012
      Associated Press

      http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/13/holder-mideast-trip-cut-short-over-libya-investigation/

      WASHINGTON – Attorney General Eric Holder is cutting short an overseas trip and will return to Washington immediately to manage a criminal investigation into the deaths of the four people who died in an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya.

      [snip]

      [snip]

  4. John McLachlan says:

    There were pictures of the ambassador, partially undressed, being carried through the streets.
    Did Hillary Clinton not originally claim that this was the Libyan people assisting the ambassador to the hospital, rather than terrorists displaying their trophy?
    Did she make up that claim on the spot, or did someone, within the intelligence community, the State Department or an Obama administration offical tell her that this is what the photographs showed?

  5. boricuafudd says:

    So the story changes again, before the Consulate only lock-down security, now they are saying it was reinforced, with 9 feet tall walls, barb wire, drop steel rails, etc. They also forgot that they said that the Consulate was attacked in June, and because of the great response by the Libyans, they felt, extra security was not needed, that the Libyans were sufficient. BTW the February 17th martyrs is that a reference to the 24 killed by Quadafi in an earlier protest by the Benghazians who were attacking in a similar fashion the Italian Consulate, because the Italian Ambassador had spoken in favor of free speech and had worn a t-shirt with the Dutch cartoons that caused the uproar in 2006. Quadafi used troops to quell the attack and eventually several were killed. So this is the group we had picked to serve as our security. Notice that in the account no mention of the 4 Libyan guards is made, only of the 5 DS officers.

    Looking at the diagram and pictures, this account does not make much sense, why did they have to use a vehicle to go from b to c is they are practically joined together. How did the DS officers run across open field among dozens of fighters from the TOC to building B. What happened to the 4 Libyan guards. Why are they defending B, when the Ambassador is in C, safe room of not. Is not gas masks standard equipment in case of a tear gas attack. How long before the reinforcements arrived? This is a good narrative and may pass mustard for most but the holes are getting larger and larger and harder to fill with bs.

    • lovemygirl says:

      Just a tiny thought, the armored vehicle was safer than running? I don’t know at this point, all I know is to get the word out and vote R/R.

      • boricuafudd says:

        Good point, my problem is this was an unprecedented attack, by dozens of people, according to State, yet 4 DS security were able to hold them back, move around the compound and finally escape. The testimony I heard was that no amount of extra security could have prevented it. The attackers seem like they had no interest on the DS officers and allowed them free rein. The attack being describe does not fit the narrative, is what I am saying.

        • lovemygirl says:

          The real proffesional said superior weapons and tactics could have prevented it. US Marines would have killed all of the scum.

        • BINGO. Underline what boricuafudd is saying here.

          An unprecedented attack that no amount of defense could thwart (yet reporters could take picutures and video the scene). Against 200 described al-Qaeda terrorists, 5 guys were able to wander around the compound looking for Stevens. Note in the talking points they had “one vehicle” yet they previously stated they evacuated 20 people.

          The attack described definately does not fit the narrative.

          • boricuafudd says:

            I will add one other thing the deaths in the Consulate were indirect, smoke inhalation, I don’t think they were intended, the other were at the safe house now called the “annex” by a mortar round. It does not fit, it just does not, anyone who has seen some combat, shit, watched a movie can tell this.

  6. lovemygirl says:

    Minor point but they brought spray paint that night to “tag” the buildings. It isn’t like they have a 24/7 Home Depot to run out and buy the spray paint.

  7. lovemygirl says:

    For the “Late Night” crowd. Yes I know this topic is serious but we really need to “Rock the Casbah”.
    If I recall this was a popular song with our men during Gulf War I.

  8. howie says:

    Looks like Obama is caught red handed. I just wonder if the GOP will go after him on it.

    • John Galt says:

      Probably not. Most of the GOP supported Zero in installing al Qaeda in Libya and R & R have announced they intend to do the same in Syria. They risk that the story will blow up from “Zero lied about the video” to “Why are we supporting al Qaeda?”

      • howie says:

        For them to take this heat the truth must be too awful to imagine. I suspect Obama was arming known Al Qaeda Terrorists.

        • retire2005 says:

          And there, howie, you have hit the nail on the head and the real reason for the Oval Office coverup. We know that Obama approved Egypt and France supplying arms to the Libyan rebels. But what about us? Why was Stevens in Benghazi on 9-11? We have learned that he was there to make a “deal” for arms retrieval, but what arms? Egyptian? French? OURS?

          Here is the question NO ONE is asking; did Stevens facilitate arming the Libyan rebels only to find out that those rebels were really controlled and comprised of AQ members? Is that why he was trying to get them back, so it would not be found out that Obama, in a clandestine operation, supplied arms to AQ? That would make sense. And no, I am not discounting the “kidnapping” hypothesis because the Libyan opposition could have used weapons retreival as a reason to meet with, and kidnap, Stevens on a date that holds upmost importance for jihadists.

          My guess is the truth is that we have a “Fast and Furious, Libyan style” case here and the Administration has to do all it can to hide that fact. Fast and Furious I can be ignored by the press; Fast and Furious II cannot. American’s patience with arming the enemy goes only so far.

          And why agree with Libyan authorities to use only their people for security? Hell, in Paris, and Barbados, we use U.S. Marines. But not Libya? Did the administration ignore the history of the February 17 Martyr’s Brigade?

          The malignant narcissist known as Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. thought that his extraordinary, glowing personality would win over the Arab street and he would be thought of as a savior to people of the Middle East. He used his childhood in Indonesia, and his Muslim half sister, like props in a play. “Look at me, I’m half Muslim” was the message he was sending to the enemy, thinking they would roll over like a trained dog. So he gave his Cairo speech and upon taking office, his first interview was with an Arab news source.

          Only Fort Hood, and its incident of “work place violence” burst that bubble, but Obama could not admit that not only does he not understand the American people, he doesn’t understand our enemies. The jihadists don’t give a hoot or holler about his childhood in a Muslim land or his Muslim 1/2 sister. They only care about killing Americans, and Israelis. End of story.

          But to admit he was wrong would cost his election. So the games continue and in order to stay in the game, he, and his minions, have to double down on the lies.

          Meanwhile, the press continues to support him. i.e. I was in Austin (the San Francisco of the Southwest) last week. And while all the nation is talking about Benghazi, and the Congressional hearings, what was on the front page of the [rag] Austin American-Statesman? Tom DeLay’s appeal; Lance Armstrong’s doping friends; available housing for the SSW music festival; Benghazi? Page 3, left side column. Look for the Benghazi stories in the NY Slimes, you will be hard pressed to find them. Yet, it remains the Bible of the left wing.

          Egypt, taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood. Mission accomplished.

          Libya, taken over by AQ. Mission accomplished.

          Syria, next in line for this corrupt administration, being supported by Saudi money and AQ fighters. Mission yet to be accomplished.

          Turkey and Jordan, for all intent and purposes, at war. Mission accomplished since Jordan’s King is pro-western.

          When the political winds change, Obama will always stand with Islam, radical, or not.

          • texasconnie says:

            retire2005: I live in Austin and your description of our not-much-news-paper is spot on; the only reason I ever read it is for local news or Longhorn sports. Texas overall is a very red state, but Austin is a blue spot–very liberal. I enjoyed reading your analysis.

            • retire2005 says:

              texasconnie, I ususally try to stay out of Austin. It is my least favorite Texas city. Thanks to the internet, I don’t even have to go there to Christmas shop. But some of our doctors are located there and we have to use some of the Seaton facilities for tests.

              But a strange thing happened while we were in Austin last Thursday; in 2008, Austin was a sea of Obama bumper stickers and signs. So I decided to count the bumper stickers. I saw TWO. That’s it. And the only place I saw any Obama yard signs was in a three block run on 38th St. It seems like the Organizing for Obama crowd had hit that area pretty hard. Not surprising since it is pretty close to UT. And that particular area of 38th is heavily Hispanic/black. It is the very section of 38th where the city put speed bumbs on both sides of the street due to the fact that the residents drive so fast and there were so many accidents (most alcohol related).

              So I am not seeing all the “hopey change” push in Austin that I saw in 2008. Maybe even Austinites realize gas is double what it was on 1/20/2009. And if there is anything Texans hate, it is high gasoline prices.

              Hey, Obama, DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS.

              • texasconnie says:

                The atmosphere here is a lot different than 2008. We were absolute inundated with the touchy-feely, hope-and-change goodness of Obama fever. It’s much more subdued this time.

                I miss the Austin of my youth. The city is so very different now. We would really like to move to the Hill Country, some place with rolling hills and fields of bluebonnets in the spring. But it would have to be close to either Austin or San Antonio for access to major medical centers.

          • howie says:

            He has a Muslim wedding ring on his hand. What does that mean? I think Obama is Muslim. I think Obama is controlled in part by the Saudi’s. I think there are many that have information on him that they use to affect our policy. He is probably so compromised that he is a security risk all by himself in my opinion. There is so much that so many have got on this guy. I just hope he is thrown out and investigated, so we can try to repair the damage.

          • WeeWeed says:

            We call it the “Austin-American Snakeskin.”

  9. lovemygirl says:

    From someone “over there”.
    Clinton! Everyone in the entire world that can read a news paper, has an internet connection or has a TV knows what happened except you.

  10. Mikado Cat says:

    Anyone that has seen a Zombie movie knows its best to move in a safe vehicle even for a short distance, plus its kinda handy to bring the armored vehicle with you, not run back and forth.

    Obama controls the press by only inviting friendlies, and I am sure even they know the wrong spin and next time they aren’t called. Very clever, very effective, and no freaking way should Obama be allowed to get away with such a corrosive practice.

    No mention of casualties on the other side, did our side in fact shoot back?

    Despite the trickle of news, lots more hard facts have to be out there, the security videos, CNN pictures of the complex that were on published, maybe showing the state of the walls etc. I am no expert, but it didn’t look to me that the wall was reinforced. Without rebar a good sized truck could be driven through that wall, which may have been why there were Jersey barriers, the wall was known to be weak.

    • howie says:

      Today the press will bury this story. It is not helping their Dear Leader. Could anyone imagine the firestorm if it was Bush?

    • John Galt says:

      “No mention of casualties on the other side, did our side in fact shoot back?”

      No photos of attacker casualties, 200 attackers and Libya has arrested 4 suspects.

      Sounds like a cover up.

      I hesitate to call them “the other side” since we assisted, supported and armed them and McCain calls them “heroes”.

  11. Sharon says:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/questions-on-benghazi/2012/10/13/8179efc0-1533-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_blog.html

    from the piece by Jennifer Rubin:

    Where is CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus? He seems to be the missing man…….is he, who to date has been one of the most respected national security officials, going to be instrumental in shining light on the Libya fiasco and thereby truly serving the national interest and the memory of those killed?

    That’s one of the many pending questions bubbling over in the Libya scandal. But we finally be getting some answers. On Friday Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) announced that the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee will hold hearings on the Benghazi debacle. Those hearings can’t come a moment too soon.

    …………..and a fine list of questions Ms. Rubin is suggesting be asked….

    • stellap says:

      Did you see the comments? Complaint that there were two stories about Benghazi in the WaPo today – an attempt to damage dear leader’s political career, don’t you know?

      • Sharon says:

        I didn’t. I’ll go back and look.

      • Sharon says:

        Just went and looked–interesting.

        Someone in the thread mentions the concept of the game of musical chairs, and is thinking Hillary’s going to be the one ending up without a chair when the music stops.

        I wouldn’t know how to do it, but there must be some way to combine the musical chairs visual with the empty chair syndrome provided so ably by Mr. Eastwood!

  12. howie says:

    What we have here is a truth gap. We have to have hearings and investigations to determine the obvious. Obama lied and they died. It is so very simple. Next they will have a hearing on whether the sky is blue or yellow. It is ridiculous. Good Grief.

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