To show a distinction between an approved IC candidate and an unapproved IC candidate, all you need to do is look at the contrast in the senate confirmation process, and the distinction between Bill Pulte and Jay Clayton.
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI), the entity that protects the interests of the DC Deep State, is going to hold a confirmation hearing for current USAO Jay Clayton on Wednesday afternoon. An SSCI vote is then likely within 12 hours, and a full Senate vote within 24 hours (Thursday). That’s the speed at which the Senate will move when they are in full control of the aperture.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune has already dispatched the request of President Trump to attach the Save America Act to the FISA (702) reauthorization vote that will likely happen as soon as Jay Clayton is confirmed. Again, this example outlines how the DC system moves when they -not the executive- control the functions of the Intelligence Community.
If you watch the Thune statement above, please note the professional obfuscation. It is very important to understand and recognize the issues as they face our nation.
The government (DOJ/FBI) does not need any authorization from congress to conduct surveillance on foreign nationals. There is nothing needed to spy on, intercept, surveil, or track the activity of a foreign national. The foreign person does not have any constitutional protection at all.
However, if an American is the target of secret surveillance, tracking, spying, etc., the DOJ/FBI need some method of authorization to violate the fourth amendment protection within the constitution. That’s where FISA (702) come into the picture.
FISA (702) only pertains to an American in the surveillance process.
FISA (702) is the presumed legal method, never tested in court, that permits the DOJ and FBI to violate the 4th amendment protection of the American person. FISA (702) only pertains to a legislative construct that permits this secret surveillance of the American person.
The Title-1 surveillance warrant that often comes with the 702-authorized review or investigation; is all encompassing and authorizes the government to secretly look at the private records of the targeted American.
If FISA (702) did not exist, all of the electronic record keeping, the stored metadata of Americans, would be worthless. FISA (702) is the key that allows the government to unlock the data (private records) and review it. Without the key, you cannot open the door – as a consequence, the U.S. government doesn’t need the vault.
FISA (702) has never been tested in court by any targeted person, in part because the evidence against the accused person only exists for prosecutorial use if the person is factually guilty of the suspected allegation. This is the catch-22 that has permitted the 702 violations to continue without challenge.
It doesn’t matter how many times our politicians try to position the argument, there is nothing that stops the DOJ/FBI from looking at the activity of foreign actors. However, there are constitutional protections that stop the DOJ/FBI from looking at the activity of Americans. FISA (702) is designed specifically to work around those constitutional protections.
It looks like Jay Clayton is on the fast-track to be confirmed on Thursday, and FISA (702) to be reauthorized immediately thereafter.
We are in an abusive relationship with our government.
Trump should pull the nomination and let the temporary guy do his 120 days so he can ravage the IC. The new nominee is a loser.
Remember: Jimmy Carter fired 30% of the CIA.
What is Trump waiting for?
you are not going to like the answer.
My fear is that President Trump might fall into the same trap that ensnared Ronald Reagan several times…cutting a deal to give up one thing, in order get something/someone that you really want! But, that only works when the people you are making a deal with actually intend to follow through on their end of the agreement!
Thune “promising” to pass the SAVE Act in exchange for pulling Pulte as the nominee is only a “good” deal IF Thune follows through, which we know he WON’T!! Clayton gets confirmed, the SAVE Act gets shelved again, and somehow the Swamp will ALL pull together to get FISA approved anyway, with a few “minor tweaks” to protect themselves and their dirty little secrets!
Then the President can fire Clayton, and the process can start all over…with the advantage that Americans will see that Thune is a snake.
Thune should be thrown into a van and disappeared already.
Enemy combatant masquerading as senate leader
I think the majority of congress and much of judicial should go along for that ride.
Making a deal with Thune is like making a deal with Iran…
Frankly, I would give up the SAVE act to get rid of FISA 702.
You pass the Save A A and you eventually get the FISA 702 gone. The Save A A is exactly what it says.
It is important to know what an American person is, just not the individual but a company, organization etc.
In Washington D. C., it’s a company of grifters.
Both sides of the aisle
They’re all a bunch of conniving good for nothing rats!
Clayton has no foreign policy or intelligence community experience. Just like Pulte. He donated to Barack Obama and Mitt Romney’s presidential campaigns. In 2015, Clayton donated to Jeb Bush’s 2016 presidential campaign. God help us!
Pray
The SAVE act doesn’t matter if passed when the I’ll call you back just as soon as i can. can create and release bioweapons as well as manipulate and change votes in the electronic machines.
Why is Trump doing this?
Not the same Trump
Can’t H A T E these people enough !!!!
Then try loving and praying for them instead.
Matthew 5
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven…”
I will guess that the Trump administration is en route to burying the alleged Gabbard investigations into voter fraud.
damnit
I like to think Trump expected the Senate to slow walk his permanent nominee, so he created the risk of Pulte to get the Senate to do exactly this.
Wait, how did we go from Tulsi Gabbard to a deep-state uni-party approved wiener?
the 4th amendment for dummies
the natural rights of the people confer that privacy, their intimate thoughts and private actions, are between them and God. Period.
Now, should a human being act against another and harm another, steal, cheat, lie then this is why we have HUMAN LAWS, which are based on ancient BIBLICAL law. This is where one is not assumed guilty until proven as to that guilt. proven.
and then we have to accept that there are those particularly those in corrupt central state that would and can decide to manufacture and deform facts or just make them up entirely so that they can allege, indict and prosecute …as they would say in the former Soviet union…find me the man and I can find the crime. or simply, I can charge a ham sandwich.
obviously, this is where specific rules are required to prevent INJUSTICE…As some would say, it is better than 100 guilty persons go free than 1 innocent man be convicted unfairly (I have always resented that representation, but the point makes its own sunlight, albeit exaggerated for effect…the more reasonable consideration is that a man be given the opportunity to appeal and injustice…and that is far more relative and reasonable than the old saw).
moving on. the real reason why a person is presumed innocent and must be proven guilty is not just moral obligation, but logic and reason.
and this is where ironically, things can go very wrong.
particulary with violence.
who makes the victim and their surviving family whole again?
who seeks justice for the murdered little human being defenseless in the womb..quite alive and robbed of the first experience of wonder that the Creator has promised?
I shudder every single time to consider how our laws have been corrupted.
Do I believe that all hope is lost? no.
What I do believe is that GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED.
and justice in this life and the next is a promise just as the promise of life was made in his sacrifice.
repent America…repent your sins and respect natural laws.
because the devil is having his way invading this space…Come back to Jesus and set things right
God Bless America
The FISA 702 Process was ILLEGALLY used to Surveil Trump and all his staff during and after Trumps First Term.
That case should be pursued to get rid of the 702 as totally Unconstitutional!
Illegal you say? Did someone go to jail for breaking the law? Did the FISA court do any follow up to the 99 page FISA order?
<Illegal you say?>
In DC, illegal is a sick bird.
This may be an impossibility for reasons. Of which I am not aware but why can’t Tulsi Gabbard work from home or take a temporary leave instead of stepping down?
Couldn’t she do this by making it possible for her deputy director to assume a larger role at her discretion for the time being?
“FISA (702) only pertains to an American in the surveillance process.”
Allowing it to lapse is the only thing the left ever got right.
This unfolding mess is precisely why Tulsi’s departure is unwelcome.
Trump needs to push Thune’s removal.
If the majority leader of the Senate can’t support the President’s agenda, he must go.
Get down and dirty Mr. President. You can do it.
I believe there’s a legitimate security need for the government to be able to search private records of US citizens if there’s probable cause. However, this crap about skirting the traditional warrant process is ludicrous. Then pile on the congressional exemption and it leaves me wanting to kick my dog. If anything, all of Congress should be subjected to private records review as a prerequisite to take office.
As far as 702 is concerned, JUST GET A DAMN WARRANT.
(This will get fixed the 1st time this illegal process is used against a deep state darling.)
My hunch and the 99 page FISA order makes me suspect that 702 is the hook for large scale autonomous data mining by AI.
President Trump has a great big UniParty Deep State fighting him on everything he does, every minute of every day.
The UniParty Deep State fights this war against President Trump on behalf of Continuity of Leviathan Government.
Pray continually for President Trump that, even as there are setbacks and adversity, God would enable him to prevail in the larger war.
So, people here in the Treehouse, ask the OBVIOUS QUESTIONS! Why the heck did President Trump DO THIS?
Any time I criticize our President for things he has done, I get BLASTED as a (fill in the blank). So in this case, he nominates Clayton, the beloved choice of the evil uniparty and intelligence community, on the “promise” of attaching the SAVE act? Is he really this naive? I’m trying to use nice words, because I want MY President, who I’ve voted for every time and financially supported, to SUCCEED. But as smart as he is, how can he make this massive a blunder?
He is either willing to play the “trust us” game (which he must know is a loser’s gambit), OR he is being forced to serve up a puppet leader under direct threat to he and his family. I really can’t make sense of this…we lose the ONLY DNI who was actually strong enough and willing to serve her nation sacrificial, to uncover the sick ugly evil within, only to throw it all away…for what?
They wont answer you because as some say …this is an age of PRETENDING. They cant accept the truth it is too painful so they ignore and hope it will change. They would, in their minds, be traitors to Trump.
We are in an abusive relationship with our government.
Broken record time.
It’s all about
Power and money
and
Money and power.
Two sides of the same coin.
The citizens can go pound sand.
Thank you Sundance for spelling this out. John Soloman is always mis-reporting 702 as something to do with spying on foreigners. 702 is only about DOJ/NSD FBI (the new MI-5) spying on Americans in CONUS without even a FISA court warrant. Period. But NSA will still be collecting everything even without the 702 because we still have the 5 eyes and the FISA warrants.
Yep. When The Turtle and Thombalina Tillis immediately endorsed Carter and set up a hearing within days the spidey senses started going hard.
Hopefully this is Trump setting up a rug-pull after the GOPe showed their hand.
There is a lot consternation about all this. Pulte is a wrecking ball. 702 should not be the trade for removing Pulte. the SAVE act prior to Jay Clayton should be the deal. The SAVE act without any amendments, specifically to create loopholes for NY, Washington, Oregon, California, Michigan, Colorado, Illinois, Alaska any other state i missed. We cannot get rid of these people without safe and fair elections. We did not realize how unsafe & unfair they were until 2020 when it was stolen in the middle of the night. Thune, was fine with this because he kept his power.
Patience, grasshoppers.
Looks like Pulte was just put in charge of the NSA, under which an unheralded memo, NPSM-12, puts all national security systems.
Sundance, can you look into that for us?
Carter Page’s appeal to Scotus for FISA Court’s abuse of him was rejected without explanation except some statute of limitations BS as Carter argued that the clock started when the abuse was publicized by the IG in 2020, not when the abuse secretly started in 2016. Page was going to sue Comey and other main sleeve balls who conspired to deprive him of his rights and lied to court about exculpatory evidence. Meanwhile, where is Clinesmith practicing now that he hit his license back ???
I thought the House let 702 expire? What did I miss?
It really sucks how Joe Kent was part of the reason why Tulsi had to leave the DNI post, but considering how Bill Cassidy and John Cornyn are holding grudges toward MAGA and Trump right now, I assume Trump was left with few choices like Jay Clayton but hey, if Jay Clayton turns into another flop, Trump could always fire and replace him after midterms with a stronger GOP Senate with less RINO Senators.
>> We are in an abusive relationship with our government.
I could not agree more.
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what a smarmy, creepy, full on alcoholic face w/fake teeth on this mook. wonder who bought him off….
I pray that Tulsi will be back – regardless of the circumstances and position.