In recent developments President Trump’s ‘project freedom’ operation to open the Strait of Hormuz for captured shipping interests has been paused following Saudi Arabia’s withdrawal of support and their revocation of Saudi air bases for U.S. operations.
The issue behind the Saudi decision is not that complicated if you understand the longer-term background. However, the issue behind the Saudi decision also highlights a key ¹flaw in the Promethean analysis of the relationship (and the reason I caution everyone to sip slowly from this information source).
The cliff notes version is that Saudi Arabia and many of the Gulf States look at the negotiations between President Trump and Iranian interests with skepticism. The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) wants a complete and final elimination of the threat Iran represents. They do not believe Iran can be negotiated out of that threat. The GCC view negotiations as an Iranian delay tactic.
Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salmon, the main voice in the GCC position, has clear eyes and a long historic view on the threat Iran represents. They accept the people in control of the Iran regime will do and say anything to pause or remove the military confrontation; but they will never stop building the arsenal for war. There is zero, absolutely zero trust in anything the Iranians say on this matter.
As a consequence, Saudi Arabia understands the intent of President Trump’s request to support ‘project freedom’, however Saudi Arabia is not going to accept continued missile attacks from Iran during this ‘humanitarian’ effort to reopen the Strait. [Remember, this is also a Muslim Brotherhood issue. The Brotherhood is the political network behind extremist Islam.]
President Trump is asking Saudi Arabia and the GCC states to view the continued Iranian attacks as small slights, small provocations, while he diplomatically tries to negotiate with the Iranian regime. MbS and the GCC are unwilling to take this position, to accept these continued attacks against their nations, simply to give President Trump the political benefit of his policy.
Again, the Saudi’s and GCC have been dealing with this extremist threat for decades. They are unwilling to compromise in order to give space for negotiations they view as futile. The U.S. can use all Saudi support venues to confront Iran militarily, but they are not going to support the political and diplomatic effort behind ‘project freedom’ while they are simultaneously expected to accept continued attacks from Iran.
NBC News reported that Saudi Arabia revoked U.S. access to its bases for Project Freedom, a mission to safeguard the Strait of Hormuz from Iranian threats. A call between Trump and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman failed to resolve the dispute, forcing the administration to pause the operation. Political commentators described the move as a significant strategic loss for the U.S. in the Gulf region. (source)
Essentially, the U.S. cannot say to the GCC: “Please open your skies and bases,” thereby exposing their energy infrastructure, only for everyone to discover afterwards the actual American policy was apparently: “Oh by the way, if Iran attacks you with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones in several waves, we won’t retaliate because we are chasing a negotiated deal. And this is exactly what shocked the Saudis.
It was not the issue of the Iranian attack; after all, the UAE/GCC expect retaliation – this is Iran; no one in the Gulf is naïve about that. The shock came from the American reaction after the attacks against the GCC. Attacks against Emirati infrastructure, Fujairah was targeted, multiple waves involving drones, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles. And from their perspective Washington’s response was basically: “Meh. Minor incident. Let’s not escalate.” Minor incident?! From the perspective of the GCC this is madness. Thus, they withdraw support.
¹This is where it becomes critical to understand the position of the GCC as it relates to well over a decade of this Muslim Brotherhood/Iran extremist activity. It is not President Trump who triggered the GCC assembly to fight this radical Islamic extremism, a bastardized view of authentic Islam, it was Egypt and the GCC who have been confronting this stuff since President Obama triggered the “Arab Spring”.
Long before President Trump took office in 2017, Egyptian President Fattah al-Sisi had confronted the Muslim Brotherhood and assembled a coalition of mid-east partners to address this Islamist threat. Sisi went to see King Salmon (MbS dad) first, to get his support. Egypt then assembled Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Bahrain, Kuwait and Jordan to confront Qatar, who was the bankers for the Muslim Brotherhood.
The GCC with all stable Arab state support then economically and diplomatically boycotted and isolated Qatar. The Qataris finally acquiesced to the pressure and in September 2014 the exiled leaders from the Muslim Brotherhood who were living in Qatar were sent to Turkey.
Egypt and the GCC have been confronting all of the tentacles from the Muslim Brotherhood for more than thirteen years now. All of these factions of radical Islam, al-Qaeda, al-Nusra, Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS and more, come from this political apparatus represented by the Brotherhood, which is ideologically and structurally aligned in common cause with the extremism represented by the Iranian regime.
This is the background context for Saudi and GCC support for President Trump to finish the “drive them out of power” approach that Trump himself spoke of in 2017 during the Arab assembly. From the position of the GCC, they have done everything they can to destroy radical Islamic elements, now they need the power of the USA to eliminate what remains of it in Iran.
Saudi Arabia and the GCC view Iran as an existential threat that cannot be dealt with diplomatically and they do not trust any negotiation.
The most positive data points in all the U.S. activity against Iran have been two facets. First, the complete support of the Gulf Arab states for President Trump’s military confrontation of Iran. Second, Qatar joining in strong alignment with the gulf states against both Iran and the Muslim Brotherhood.
Qatar always sat on the fence with one foot supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran, and the other foot supporting moderate Gulf Arab states. The difference between Qatar in 2015 and Qatar in 2026 is, quite frankly, remarkable – IF IT IS TRUE (I’m not convinced).
The GCC started their long battle against the Muslim Brotherhood in 2011, and frustratingly, they’re still standing on that same platform 15 years later. That’s why they’re not about to let Iran attack them while President Trump pursues a peace deal they see as worthless.
Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the GCC and even Qatar now holds the position that all political power structures within Iran must be destroyed.
It’s not just Israel urging President Trump to take action against Iran. In fact, history shows that support from Israel is actually less than the backing he’s getting from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the GCC for ongoing military strikes against Iran.
Last point, that reality is also what makes the Tucker Carlson viewpoint look ridiculous and indicates he has some alternative motive behind his position.
Hope that helps.
Well, thank you Sundance,,was getting close to asking for some sort of explanation of what in Sam Hill was the problem here. IMHO,,, just hammer these turds and get it over with already
I think part of the problem is that “just hammer them” isn’t as easy as it was 10 or 20 yrs ago. Military technology has evolved quite a bit over the last 2 decades, and the DOD spent most of that time chasing fat contracts rather than trying to keep up.
I’m hopeful Trump and Hegsith can create a good outcome, but I think they are facing some real challenges.
The U.S. obviously cannot find and eliminate the stockpiles of missiles and drones that Iran has. They’re still shooting off waves of them. Trump is ignoring Iran’a violation of the cease fire which just screams weakness to the Iranian leadership. He keeps talking about a negotiated agreement even though Iran will never give up its nuclear program.
Let’s start with taking out 50% of their oil wells and see their reaction and then the other 50%!
yes, Iran must be hammered
our Pres – as much as I admire him and most of his actions – needs to disengage his instincts as “the great dealmaker”
one can’t put all one’s eggs in the basket of “seeking a deal” with underhanded muslims who will have no intent of adhering to the deal, no matter how expert and clever a dealmaker one might be
(exactly which part of taqiyaa are we unclear on?)
Kinetic Phase 2 must be pursued as soon as possible after remaining targets can be identified by military intelligence
The Saudis are correct, they’re 1000% liars. And like roaches, they must be eradicated.
Roaches can survive a nuclear strike..
but not poisoned bait
Spell check/autocorrect strikes again! Twice!
It thought your spelling was fishy.
Almost WORDMAN worthy!
Good cop. Bad cop. Could work. Or the Saudis could move in and do the job themselves.
With what?
We sold them F15s.
Do they actually know how to pilot them?
They do, and maintain them as well.
Parts of any arms sales to the UAE includes training both pilots and maintenance personnel as well as a robust spares package.
My question to the UAE and all the Arab nations taking incoming: When are you going to stop reserving the right to retaliate and actually do it?
Yep.
They need to put up or shut up.
They have a coalition amongst themselves.
If they don’t like the way we are doing it, okay.
We softened the target.
Let them administer the coup de grace.
They train here in the US
At a base in the Idaho mountains.
The 2nd part. Maybe as a coalition of muslims cleaning up a muslim mess in a muslim country in a muslim part of the world.
https://abcnews.com/US/doj-probing-26-billion-oil-trades-related-iran/story?id=132738007&cid=social_twitter_abcn
Smh!
A lot happening right now.
US attacked qeshm port and bandar abbas
in Iran. But according to reports it is not the start of war. Hmm.
UAE attacked Iran earlier and Iran fired on a US ship.
I’m just hearing this as it is reported on Agenda free live. (Lookner)
Supposedly, Iran attacked destroyers with missiles and drones. 👈🏻 just reported…true or propaganda…? Not sure on this, tbh.
I’m going to wait for official news sources. The situation is obviously “in extreme flux,” and I don’t expect to hear anything “accurate” right now. “The Fog Of War.™”
It’s true! CENCOM confirmed everything.
I just read in another post at the Presidential here that Iran hit a Chinese boat.
Seems a lot going on right now…more reports of explosions,
more sources claiming 3 of our destroyers were damaged.
Iran says we hit one of their tankers first.
I just keep live feeds going so I can keep up as things happen.
But “reports” do not always =truth.
Damaging three destroyers? That’s quite a stretch considering all the hardware in the region networked into their AEGIS systems.
Speaking of which, the IRGC’s social media division has been the most effective force of theirs to date in mainstreaming patently false information.
Dems mainline that shyt.
That’s why I said “supposedly”… 🤷🏻♀️ regarding the ships. But there are strikes happening in Iran and missiles and drones have been fired on our ships. Probably no damage, but centcom is assisting our war ships through the strait. That seems to be verified. Lookner does say if he can verify these reports are not. He doesn’t opine, that’s why I like him ok.
If you gonna do it, do it right… Can’t say as I blame them.
Every description I see of things that are expected of Iran’s government seems to call for their IMMEDIATE VAPORIZATION.
If these people can never be trusted, then they must be killed. They certainly can’t be trusted to stay in power which is Trump’s standard M.O. in these matters. And it would be in Trump’s interests to do something far more extreme.
He still needs to collect the Uranium from Iran’s locations. From that Uranium, they can determine the origin. Is it Uranium One? Is it Russia? Israel???? (If Israel really wants to destroy Iran, finding a way to provide them with Uranium would provide plausible justification) That collection can’t happen under THIS circumstance.
The circumstances need to be changed.
The Saudi’s have it right. Of course, Trump wants to rock the boat slowly prior to his meet on May 15 with Xi.
seems to be more of the same old – same old that’s been going on over there for decades and decades. You aren’t making a “deal” with these religious nut-jobs. They will keep pushing until they’re all room-temperature. Someone suckered Trump into this mess, but getting out of it won’t be easy or timely. He’s gonna be neck-deep in this until he’s out of office.
Our nation needs his complete focus. The GOP hasn’t done anything on his core agenda in the 15 months they’ve had full control. It’s looking pretty clear to me that they won’t be doing anything ever. I have no idea how Trump stays quiet about it. Baffles me completely.
“Someone suckered Trump into this mess”
trump is an adult, and we voted for him to represent our interests. win or lose, this is on HIM.
..and most of us know who did it……
Well, what the hell, Saudis, you want us to destroy EVERYTHING in IRAN, the very things that feed the people?
If we had actual intel at this point, we could kill what “leaders” are left so evidently we don’t have that intel.
Oh, I think it’s quite incorrect to speculate about “what ‘intel’ we do and don’t have.” Obviously, the ‘intel’ has been excellent. Excellent enough to precisely locate and destroy key leadership in several successful waves. But, you’re not going to be privy to anything about it, and neither are your “sources.” Top Secret. “Because Somebody Talked!” isn’t going to happen.
I respect Trump for what he is earnestly trying to do. However, I don’t think that such a resolution is possible with this enemy. (And, many other nations who have been all around them for thousands of years apparently don’t think so, either.)
PDJT always gives his opponents plenty of rope to eventually hang themselves.
Yes, but with this regime that should be an extra short rope given their history. Not all enemies are the same.
I think if we knew where these remaining “leaders” were hiding out, we’d have taken them out by now.
Personally i feel they are ALL just playing games, including whoeverthehell is supposed to be the good guys on our side, its all just BS and if they really wanted to fix this mess scorched earth would be the only real solution but with geopolitics and politics being what it is they are all just dancing around lobbing bombs here n there and blustering of how tough they are,
Its like a bully, he tries to intimidate people to get what he wants till some kid with a bat comes along and beats the hell out of him till he stops moving, thats the only way this will ever stop otherwhise its SOSDD ad infinitum
The House of Saud is WAITING TIL the Qataris STRIKE; the Qataris HAVE the Top Tech and Proximity to the Straits, BUT are waiting for a Bail Out so as NOT to Step Off into the Deep End and Commit.
mbS is Protecting his country the SAME Way.
The ARABS WANT To SELL / SHIP Out THEIR PETRO CHEMICALS – THEY SHOULD LEAD imo
The Qataris, Just Like the Pakistanis – ARE DUPLICITOUS. BOTH operate on the theory of Taqiyya –
Pakistan Obtained their Bomb by Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and Munir Ahmad Khan with General Zia-ul-Haq
” pulling the Trigger ” thru espionage and dual-usage technology.
The Qataris ARE the Middle Eastern Bank of Choice, Just as the Swiss were for Years. They HIDE Monies, Holdings and
only ” get Involved ” IF THEIR Bottom Line is impinged.
The House of Saud ALSO SIGNED a Defense Pact with Pakistan that Plays into THE EQUATION –
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/saudi-arabia-pakistan-defence-pact-nuclear-umbrella/
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/154955/situations-in-which-lying-is-permissible
https://southasiatimes.org/pakistans-nuclear-journey-from-disparity-to-deterrence/
https://gcclub.org/0000/00/00/why-qatar-is-abandoning-the-muslim-brotherhood-and-hamas/
https://gcclub.org/what-is-gulf-cultural-club/
Isn’t one other issue complicating things as well ? The issue is that President Trump has a close relationship with Qatar in some way – he even boasted about it on podcasts leading up to the 2024 election. I wonder if that relationship may now be a liability with the support Qatar reportedly gives to the muslim brotherhood and indirectly to the Shia Iranians .
HENCE – THE PROBLEM –
The ARAB PEOPLE ARE a COMPLICATED LOT – with Tribes and Allegiances that Run Deep with nuisances .
ie
T.E. Lawrence’s Experience during WW1 and the Following Years
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/true-story-lawrence-arabia-180951857/
summed up simply in this short scene from Lawrence of Arabia
FYI: I have unwavering confidence in my Commander-in-Chief and his vast team. I also do not expect to learn what the various Arab players are now discussing, whether with us or among themselves. I expect all of this to be “Top Secret,” and I’m not going to sit around second-guessing them. All of the players are experienced adults.
I understand that PresTrump is eager for this current “ceasefire and negotion” phase because of the fallout in oil and gasoline prices
But I think he’s left the job half undone so far … I think he needs to go from leaving 18 percent of Irans missile capacity in place to fully eliminating it all. I think Saudi Arabia has the correct assessment of Iran and that thinking they’ll abide by some diplomatic — ahem — “memo” is fanciful and naive thinking
We need a Phase 2 of our military campaign, once military intelligence has comprehensively identified ALL remaining missiles and launchers, has a plan to remove the enriched uranium (and centrifuges), and while we have such an overwhelming level of US forces on station there
The Washington Post reported:
A confidential CIA analysis delivered to administration policymakers this week concludes that Iran can survive the U.S. naval blockade for at least three to four months before facing more severe economic hardship, four people familiar with the document said, a finding that appears to raise new questions about President Donald Trump’s optimism on ending the war.
The analysis by the U.S. intelligence community, whose secret assessments on Iran have often been more sober than the administration’s public statements, also found that Tehran retains significant ballistic missile capabilities despite weeks of intense U.S. and Israeli bombardment, three of the people familiar with it said.
Iran retains about 75 percent of its prewar inventories of mobile launchers and about 70 percent of its prewar stockpiles of missiles, a U.S. official said. The official said there is evidence that the regime has been able to recover and reopen almost all of its underground storage facilities, repair some damaged missiles and even assemble some new missiles that were nearly complete when the war began.
BREAKING: Deep State Leaks CIA Iran War Dossier to WaPo
Trump doesn’t pay any attention to the CIA. They are not on Americas side.
The point is the CIA leaked it’s analysis of the conflict to the Washington Post and said that Iran is winning! So, it really doesn’t matter whether President Trump trusts them or not!
Saudi Arabia is Arab. I said nothing about Iran.
Sources say, US official says, people familiar with it say…
Isn’t that how all the fake news starts out?
Just sayin’….
It’s a mind war amidst a lull in a kinetic war. Ditto economic warfare elsewhere.
Lest we all forget, breaking the MAGA coalition is a top priority of those in favor of returning to the status quo of looting America before President Trump.
“breaking the MAGA coalition is a top priority”
100% !
The shades I always put on when venturing outside the Treehouse.
I don’t give a 🐀’s patootie about podcasters, newscasters, or the bloviating b.s. naysayers.
I am not clutching pearls, or clenching teeth, while I await the latest spin.
I voted for the leader I chose.
He got the job.
He’s doing it.
That’s it.
💕🦁 👑 💕
❤️🤍💙
P.S.
I truly believe this was preordained by a power higher than any of us assembled on this planet. 🕊️🙏
I am not about to believe 1) the WA POSTS and 2) the CIA–nor should you believe any of this.
And who among the treehouse family believes much (if anything) the CIA puts out after all the years of the intelligence community trying to take the President down? Who is the long standing media go-to for the CIA? The Washington Post. Why and how does a CONFIDENTIAL classified document get into open source media.?
you guys are all missing the point
I didn’t for one minute believe the CIA’s assessment, nor do i place any credence in them
“CIA not to be believed, yada yada”
yeah, I know
the point is that this assessment that Iran still has 50-75 percent of its missile capacity has now been released into the public discussion, where it’ll be picked up and amplified to insinuate PresTrump’s military strikes have been ineffective
I posted the link not to amplify CIA’s assessment, but because of how it’ll be used by Leftist press and Leftist loudmouths
Whether CIA’s assessment is correct or not is immaterial
They’ve launched a narrative that Iran still has 75 percent of their missile capabilities and NOT the 18-19 percent that PresTrump is reciting, therefore “he must be a clueless rube”
Follow?
@nimrodman-
BULLSHIT
If the President says 18-19% then…. it is. Anything contrary is what I began with. There is no narrative if you don’t listen.
Again, you’ve mistaken the narrative that I say will be constructed in the press for MY viewpoint
It’s NOT my viewpoint
I’m citing the reporting that’s going on in the mainstream press, not claiming the reporting as something I believe in
It’s a good idea for us to pay attention to the outside narratives that are being constructed and not be 100% insular
there’s plenty of reinforcing among us on what we believe here in Pro-Trump World
When I post a statement such as below, where I’m clearly not advocating for the viewpoint but instead telling how it’ll be wielded against PresTrump in the outside press, I don’t expect to get yapped at so forcefully, “Mr BULLSHIT”
Geez … get a grip
They’ve launched a narrative that Iran still has 75 percent of their missile capabilities and NOT the 18-19 percent that PresTrump is reciting, therefore “he must be a clueless rube”
You can bet we’ll hear criticisms about that in Congress later this week
Now, those will be Democrats, of course
But they’ll be heard
And there’ll be press … LOTS of it
And there’ll be knock-on effects
So while we sit back and bask in a warm glow of self-satisfaction, believing “if Trump sez 18-19 then that’s what it is and that’s enuf for me” …
… it’ll be satisfying
… but it’ll be short-sighted
just sayin’
4 people who have viewed the document? Are we ever going to learn these left wing rags govt sources are bs? No offense Nim but this administration hasn’t had any leaks on the Iran War/ceasefire yet, until now? 75% of there prewar missiles? Are you jesting?
No – I’m pointing out the narrative that has now been released to paint PresTrump as a rube with his 18-19 percent estimate.
I don’t believe the 75%
I don’t believe the CIA
I posted because of the severity of the accusation
The story has been attributed to CIA
I personally don’t believe in the CIA, nor their pronouncements
But it’s a damaging accusation intended to weaken the President and his strategic policy
So I simply linked to the article that made the assertion
You are correct insofar that this is narrative building by Trumps enemies. Sadly, a very large number of people only read or consume cheap information that is force fed to them.
thx, Unconquered … I appreciate the term “narrative building”, that wasn’t as high up in my present vocabulary as it should be
‘A US official said’, where have we seen this tactic before?
My takeaway is that the DS, through its MSM arm, is desperately trying to save the Democrat party from itself, by literally creating news stories that it can run with to try and gain some form of political momentum.
Secondly, these ‘US officials’ are probably briefing the IRGC with assessments that are as overly-optimistic about their chances, as the ones for US domestic consumption are overly-pessimistic. The motive being the prevention of a Team Trump victory against their globalist enabler (similar to their trying to deny Putin a victory over Ukraine, another enabler).
Finally, I wonder if Israeli intelligence, whom the US rely on regarding Iran, agree with the report’s conclusions about the relative ineffectiveness of the air campaign. I have my doubts.
see my replies to Dangerous Minds and Montbellver
I simply quoted the article that cites CIA
It’s not that I’m a CIA true believer
I’m citing what is a damaging assertion that’s been made in the press that will be amplified by the anti-Trump bandwagon
geez – sorry to have set all you guys to yammering today
Thanks for the info. The point being that the deep state commies are still in place at the CIA. This agency seems to be impervious to any attempt to clean it out.
yep, that’s an important point – they revealed themselves with that
Well if it was leaked to WaPo then you know it’s true/s
I can’t blame the Saudis. This may force Trump to finish the job. He has given Iran every chance but he should know that the Iranians can’t be trusted…ever.
I can blame them. If they want Iran destroyed, they have the firepower to do it themselves.
This may force Trump to finish the job.
I sure hope so
My belief is that PresTrump has to use US Forces at this time to absolutely LEVEL Iran’s military capability
— ALL OF IT
And leave sufficient Naval power there to prohibit any mischief like laying mines
Out go the fast boats
Up go the Apaches with gatlings and missiles
Looks like Project Freedom may have been paused because we had some business to take care of….
****
US strikes Qeshm Port, Bandar Abbas, Bandar Kargan; official says attacks not ceasefire breach
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-project-freedom-hormuz-war-may-7
“Strikes on Iran are ONGOING, just hit the Bandar Kargan naval checkpoint in Minab.”…
Looks like the US Military can continue to use Saudi and Kuwait Air bases…
“Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have lifted restrictions on the U.S. military’s use of their bases and airspace imposed after the start of the American operation to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, according to U.S. and Saudi officials, easing a hurdle that had tripped up President Trump’s effort to move ships through the vital waterway.
The Trump administration is now looking to restart the operation to guide commercial ships with naval and air support that it had paused after 36 hours this week, U.S. officials said.
It isn’t clear when that could happen though Pentagon officials gave a timeline of as early as this week.
The U.S. operation to force open the strait relied on an enormous fleet of aircraft to protect commercial ships from Iranian missiles and drones, making Saudi and Kuwaiti bases and airspace critical to its execution.:
It was a terrible mistake to stop and negotiate. Unfortunately, unless Trump can pull a rabbit out of the hat, he has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. The Iranians will play for the only thing that Trump doesn’t have – time. The Iranians have used the one sided ceasefire to regroup, close the straits humiliating the USN, and to continue to strike their Gulf Arab neighbours whilst Trump does nothing but threaten.
Now the war powers time frame comes into play transferring much of Trumps negotiating leverage to Congress.
The RINO GOP and Dem Congress will not let him resume war and Iran will become increasingly difficult to deal with. The GOP and Dem Congress will now likely have an opportunity to get what they all really secretly want, a massive defeat for Trump. The Congress would love for the USA to be humiliated by Iran as long as they can blame it on Trump.
I pray I am wrong. But I think Trump has finally miscalculated very badly. I pray I am wrong, if I am right this will be the end of MAGA as Congress ensures Trump is humiliated running into the mid terms, wiping out the GOP House and Senate and setting up an impeachment next year. My God I hope Trump can save this situation because it looks dreadful to me.
Tell me how Trump gets out of this situation?
He works with Putin and Xi, just like he’s been doing, and continues to take away the money of the globalist elite and their Democrat helpers here in the US while putting as many of them in jail as possible, just like he’s been doing.
1 – declare an end to US Military attack on Iran within that 60-day Congressional limit (I believe he’s already done this)
2 – declare an Iranian attack of choice as a violation of cease fire and a reason for the US to respond militarily
3 – initiate targeted missile / bomber strikes, to include bunker buster bomb for any and all undergound facilitlies, including missiles, launchers, centrifuges / enrichment facilities
4 – hit the storage site/s of uranium / enriched uranium …. don’t send boots-on-the-ground to retrieve it, blast it with big enough bombs that it’ll create a nuclear-hazard wasteland that can’t be entered safely
5 – notify congress they can start their 60-day clock from the time of the news strikes
The 60 day clock doesn’t even start if the US is responding to an attack!
thx, Patriot
I like all but #4:
4 – hit the storage site/s of uranium / enriched uranium …. don’t send boots-on-the-ground to retrieve it, blast it with big enough bombs that it’ll create a nuclear-hazard wasteland that can’t be entered safely
Entered safely is irrelevant to a regime that sent children (with promises of eternal favor with the almighty) walking into minefields during the Iran/Iraq war. Radioactive death holds little fear for the true believers.
yeah, that was my most hare-brained item
I guess we could have troops take a hand-over
of course Iran won’t hand ALL of it over
I’ve learned a lot from all of your posts here tonight. Your 5 point plan sounds sensible to me, especially #4.
There are nuclear waste-hazard wastelands here in the US. Last time I noticed, there has not been a viable plan to deal it successfully. Not that billions haven’t spent trying.
So #4 looks like a good option.
Ha!
I just replied to Unconquered, who thought it was too extreme and had uncertain consequences
But yeah, I was just brainstorming / free associating in a hurry
And remind them that BiteMe never came back after the 60 days to get approval for Ukraine.
Winning the war is existential for the president. If something prevents him from doing it, there will be a palace coup.
Bondi was the canary in the coal mine. All she had to do is not recuse and not appoint a special counsel. I think President Trump was compelled to fire her. If Todd Blanche is pushed aside, that will be unrecoverable for the president. The next in line at Justice will appoint a Special Counsel.
President Trump needs to clean house. Vance should be in the Naval Observatory, only seen to break ties in the Senate. Rubio and Bessent should be dismissed, Kennedy moved up to Secretary of State. Then put an Army general in charge of Centcom, who wants to win the war.
If they want more then maybe THEY should send in ground forces.
Go to Amir Tsarfati on Telegram for total coverage of Iran issues from a native Israeli, former major IDF (ret) and seems to get lots of ‘inside’ info w/vids in real time.
Right now…lots of action going on.
did he spell out…how much their military lost….merkava tanks/soldiers……
Ok. This is sooo easy.
Salmon wants no resistance and no issues. He needs to fly his carpet over and round em all up and spank em. Maybe that will get their attention.
We’ve removed all their major military components…
Go get em, tiger!!
the epstein princes are trying to have it both ways: they have allied themselves with israel and the former republic, and 90% of their public is deadset against it. if they persist, some of them are likely to find themselves overthrown and headless, and they all know it.
Regarding all the doomsaying going around here, I get it; it’s very tempting to get blackpilled over current events on the basis of the limited information that we have access to, but then again, my recollection has been that that’s pretty much the story of President Trump’s entire tenure in office. A whole ten years of non-stop “THIS time, Trump’s gone too far/bitten off more than he can chew/crossed the wrong people!” over and over and over again, but somehow he’s just kept powering through everything thrown at him like some sort of human Energizer Bunny.
On the basis of that precedent/performance record, I suspect that, concerning this whole Iran thing, he’ll surprise us all yet again, and then we can move on to tearing our hair out over the next crisis du jour appointed by the talking heads on network TV, and the next one after that, and so on and so forth.
Nobody should get all shook up about today’s developments.
President Trump has an impeccable record of Winning for the American people. He has earned our trust. Nobody who is an authentic MAGA supporter should have any doubts whatsoever as to President Trump’s ability to win this situation on our behalf.
There are countless people who have always hated our President and our country who are actively rooting against him (and America). Some of those people have chosen to infect the Treehouse with their bile. So be it.
The situation in the Strait of Hormuz is fluid. Anyone not happy with how President Trump is dealing with Iran should ask themselves who they would rather have as our Commander In Chief.
Kamala?
Biden?
Obama?
Anyone named Bush?
Anyone named Clinton?
Gavin NewScum?
Lindsay Gramnesty?
Tucker Carlson?
I could go on but the point is made. There is nobody else in America right now that I trust more than President Trump to bring this war to a successful conclusion.
He has earned our trust and, with God’s blessing, he will continue to lengthen his winning streak.
What to hell happened. To Tucker? I’m glad it came out. For Tucker saying he went to the WH and talked with Trump, he seemingly lost his mind. Afterall his father was CIA leader. Its not like Tucker wouldn’t be drawn in
I wonder if Tucker may have always been CIA, but embedded very deeply within the Conservative movement, so as to gain our trust and then be used as a tool to create dissension within our ranks?
Tucker is a disappointment to me at this time. I get his daily brief and somewhere, all the time lately he goes on a personal rant about Israel.
Not sure what experience he has had to destroy his former objectivity and sense of humor about the times we live in but he has. LOST THEM BOTH.
Almost like someone slipped him a mickey or put some crack in his pipe and he smoked it. Or, he got together with a few others who are honking their horns in the same way, and they tried some LSD and have been utterly paranoid and delusional ever since.
Tucker may recover. Time will tell. After all I was a teenager once too.
“It’s the Jooz” is all I take away from 2nd-hand accounts of Tucker recently
I’ve tuned out of directly listening to him or watching any of his presentations
Tucker says he was attacked by demons in the middle of the night.
I believe him.
Those paying attention to Iran for the last 47 years understand that the end game will have to be complete elimination of the current ruling class of mullahs and the IRGC.
They are a death cult, bent on eliminating both Israel and the USA. They chant it daily.
You can’t negotitate them out of power they aren’t willing to give up.
with all due respect, if your full understanding of iran over the past 47 years is that they chant death to america daily, what you’ve been paying attention to is propaganda.
They’re a kleptocracy that’s been kept alive because their aims align with the globalist plan, if you think otherwise then you’ve been paying attention to DS propaganda.
What are you talking about? Were you around when they took the hostages in 1979? They have been chanting “Death to America” and calling us the “Great Satan” since 1979. I was around, then, and I remember it.
I also remember when pro-Ayatollah Iranians tried to pull a demonstration in DC in 1980 – and they got their skulls cracked open by civilians on the street there.
It’s not propaganda. It’s actual history. There are plenty of videos of this that you can find with a simple search. Learn a little before you start talking about propaganda.
yes
to anyone NOT supporting PresTrump’s military action , I ask:
“What part of ‘Death to America’ are you unclear on?'”
Yes it does help Sundance… Thank You .. your time, efforts and understanding are very helpful
There is no acceptable stratagy to go into a war other than the SURRENDER of our enemy. Without victory there will be no peace. Of course, the Revelation of John males it clear that the conflicts will continue, and that victory will only be accomplished by Jesus Christ, when he returns to the earth.
yes
I’m finding PresTrump’s willingness to think that a “Memorandum of Understanding” is an acceptable conclusion to be VERY weak sauce
rather than
A Declaration of Unconditional Surrender
— followed by “these terms”
It could be that the US says- not our problem. We have done the hard work. Now it’s time the neighbors took care of that thugs. Buy whatever you need and get busy. We don’t need that oil and we are outta here.
leading one to wonder… why couldn’t we have said that BEFORE all of this?
JMHO
NONE of these peeps can be trusted,
NONE OF EM
We have to trust President Trump on this. The situation is so convoluted that most people will not understand it. Not only is there a war going on over there but a war of another sort being fought against Trump over here by the usual suspects.
If today’s media had been reporting in WW2 things may have turned out differently. Could anyone imagine how today’s media and intelligence community would have reacted to Operation Tiger? That was the exercise right before D Day that killed a large number of American military.
Well thanks for the Explanation; Now is there a Solution??? UnConditional Surrender??? Iran or Trump ??? and MAGA goes down the Domestic Drain to usher in the NWO Deep Statists via democRats/rinoRats/NeoCons ???
Trump should go back and hit the transmission line towers where they exit the power stations, at all the power stations.
Power stations would take years to rebuild and restore electricity but the transmission towers and lines can be restored in a matter of weeks.
Meanwhile put the entire country into the dark – without power the IRGC will have a helluva time operating – let’s see how long they can hang onto power after that.
Doug Ross covered this well with an infographic https://directorblue.substack.com/p/how-to-black-out-tehran-for-30-days
Yeah, I took a look at it. I think his recovery time for the hardcore stuff is way optimistic.
It might take General Electric 18 months to manufacture a steam turbine, I think longer, but that’s One At A Time. If you need 20 at once…….. you’ll have grandchildren by the time they’re all up and running. OTH, if you blow up a power plant, you have to clear the rubble and essentially construct a new power plant from scratch. The building, the boiler and steam piping, the condenser, fuel system etc. Even simultaneously that’s still a few years, with fully qualified people. And that’s just one at a time.
Transformers are bad news too. Back in the 90’s we had estimates of 2-4 years for specialized ones. I can’t believe it’d be any better now.
Switchgear is a good idea. But Transmission lines are ideal – cheapest and fastest to restore.
Gotta remember, it’s not just Tehran, it’s the entire country that has to be blacked out.
A quick hit using a variation of Doug Ross’ information is very appealing. Shut down Tehran. Maybe a few special locations, then take a break before doing a bit more in a few weeks.
Do not exit before we have nuke material.
Would stop all their bitcoin mining.
I beg to differ. Never seen an administration that has worked so hard and still battling on a constant basis. An uphill fight to be sure but all seemed bent on achieving what they can.
Never ceases to amaze me how easily most people get defeated. President Trump has got this. There are setbacks but he is a wise one and he has many brilliant people advising him. Stop with the whine and lets have some cheese and crackers.
Saudis have reopened the availability for the US to use the airbases again, as per TousiTV.
this is not correct…..they did not yet…..
https://www.iranintl.com/en/202605077287
“Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have lifted restrictions on the U.S. military’s use of their bases and airspace imposed after the start of the American operation to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, according to U.S. and Saudi officials, easing a hurdle that had tripped up President Trump’s effort to move ships through the vital waterway.
The Trump administration is now looking to restart the operation to guide commercial ships with naval and air support that it had paused after 36 hours this week, U.S. officials said.
It isn’t clear when that could happen though Pentagon officials gave a timeline of as early as this week.
The U.S. operation to force open the strait relied on an enormous fleet of aircraft to protect commercial ships from Iranian missiles and drones, making Saudi and Kuwaiti bases and airspace critical to its execution.”
The Saudis have armoured divisions. Why don’t they offer them to the cause?
Well, for one reason tanks can’t swim! 😎
Short overland route thru Kuwait and Iraq 😎
Iraq ain’t gonna let it happen!
“ They are unwilling to compromise in order to give space for negotiations they view as futile. ”
Radical Islam is perfectly willing to die for their cause and faith.
How do you negotiate with or economically punish that kind of mindset? Nothing matters to them but killing the infidel.
Love the note about all the Muslim Brotherhood members living in Turkey, our supposed NATO “ally……”
I’m hoping something breaks soon. Willing to support DJT through thick and thin, but I paid $5.20 per gallon for heating oil today (I need it for hot water) and $4.25 per gallon for gas. It’s starting to bite quite a bit.
Yeah, it’s tough on all of us; I’d hoped we’d be out of it by now too. I only bought 100 g of oil a cpl months ago hoping it’d be better now. Down to the last few gallons and am thinking just buying a few gallons of diesel every 3-4 weeks and keep the fingers crossed. Just need to run it 20 minutes a day for some hot water now.
Honest question. What were those prices under Biden? I understand that over some years the strain adds up and is draining on checkbooks as well as just being sick of it all.
We need a few patriotic Regular Army Colonels in Iran to announce a coup. And then, with help from Israeli Intelligence that probably exists, hunt down IRG leftovers and hang them en masse in the city center square (if such a thing exists.)
Offer bounties. Offer rewards to Iran citizens who dare to share information about where the few IRG leftovers are hiding.
Then offer the remaining Mullahs and IRG forces some contrived easy exit to some shithole African country.
I’m confident the Trump /Hegseth Team are well ahead of my feeble suggestions.
Sundance, why can’t you just admit the disaster that is unfolding for the United States?
Is that your idea of sunlight? Sounds like shade to me.
Oh puh-lease. Sorry, but the joke you just post is not humourous.
The GCC needs to be an alliance and attack the head of this snake.
Pretty good essay, even taking the reality of those with muddy feet who don’t exercise good manners. Plenty to chew on in both bowls. I hope the discussion in the “negotiating” circles takes to heart what Sundance is putting down here. And they’d better put their Arab cultural hats on. MBS has never needed a long-distance “reality” pill from anyone. He is well raised and trained.
If POTUS says Red, what would you do? I would say look at how we (allies) won WWII, or 11 if you’re an idiot, we pounded Germany literally into dust and then took their country away from them. We had to pound and burn Japan harder. Mr. President – FINISH THEM OFF. Please.
Some are under the assumption that Iran will:
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1. Voluntarily give up the Hormuz
2. Voluntarily give up thier nuclear
3. Voluntarily give up their proxies
4. Voluntarily give up their missiles
This will never happen, it’s all a waste of time
https://xcancel.com/Osint613/status/2052527006533701800#m
Here’s my.learned opinion gleened from years of studying belly dancers.
I beleive the attacks that will be effective are two types
1 disconnect heavy haul land routes to China a handful of rail and highway bridges east west.
2 attacks on the irgc rank and file forget command and control start blowing up base quarters and mess halls and soldiers will take care.of their leaders if not keep knocking them down.
Where ever two or more of you are together there is boom
Pakistani Shia scholars express concern over Sunni @AlAzhar’s take on Iran, urging Muslim solidarity & invoking Quran 5:2, “And do not help in sin and aggression” http://iqna.ir/en/news/3497364/paki…
https://xcancel.com/andrewbostom/status/2052058325181731222#m
Who would have thought that I would agree with the Saudis. I also think the negotiations are nothing more than a delaying tactic on Iran’s part.
“The Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) wants a complete and final elimination of the threat Iran represents. They do not believe Iran can be negotiated out of that threat. The GCC view negotiations as an Iranian delay tactic.”
There appears to be a strong consensus among informed and objective observers of the war that the current Iran regime must be both replaced and eliminated in order for the USA and its allies to claim a highly meaningful and lasting victory.
The frequent and varied changes in the tenor and content of the President’s commentary are unsettling to many, and the KSA and UAE now seem both impatient with and unconvinced by his strategy.
Now, with negotiations about to be elongated for at least a month, our allies in the region are absolutely unwilling to be targets while the Iranians “tap” the process down an uncertain and time consuming path.
The highly significant and very public Saudi rejection of the President’s latest strategy initiative weakens him and emboldens the enemy to continue “holding out” at all costs.
Absent the economic pressure and/or a massive public uprising soon producing the desired regime change, a resumption and intensification of kinetic attacks are increasingly likely.
Time is the Iranians’ greatest ally.
Thanks for explaining what the GCC is. I felt like a numb nut because I could not recall the acronym’s meaning. President Trump can keep them guessing as long as he want to.
Ever see a cat play with a mouse? Its endless torture that usually ends in death-by-feral for the mouse.
What is Trump doing? He’s the one who seems desperate for some negotiated deal with Iran. A bad deal, a vague and undefined deal that Iran will never abide by anyway. If he exits with just a bad deal on a worthless piece of paper it will be a huge loss for him personally and break his MAGA coalition.
Yes, the sky is falling – again. Doom! If you really think MAGA is about to break, you live in a dreamworld.
Not sure what has convinced Trump that even if they agree to our peace terms they won’t break it from day one? Is he hoping a peace agreement will guarantee his coveted Nobel Peace Prize?? I grow very weary of all the back and forth delays. The theocracy is playing the fiddle while Trump dances! Get It Done!!
The Muslim Brotherhood is the force behind Extremist Islam in Egypt, but not Iran. It is Shia Eschatology that drives that bunch with an entirely different objective and the goal to unleash hell on earth to usher in the 12th Mahdi.